The Daily Zeitgeist - The Dystopia Block! The Mythical Reasonable Republican 05.30.23

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

In episode 1492, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of, City Cast Boise, Emma Arnold, to discuss… The Dystopia Block!: Neuralink Gets FDA Approval For Human Tests (According to Neuralink), Texas’ Newest Solution to School Shootings: Winnie the Pooh, Arizona’s Unhinged Covid Hearings Explained, The Hope Block!: Somehow Data From Medical Professionals Sways Republican? And more! Neuralink Gets FDA Approval For Human Tests (According to Neuralink) Elon Musk’s Neuralink says it has FDA approval for human trials: What to know U.S. regulators rejected Elon Musk’s bid to test brain chips in humans, citing safety risks Elon Musk unveils Neuralink’s plans for brain-reading ‘threads’ and a robot to insert them Texas’ Newest Solution to School Shootings: Winnie the Pooh Arizona’s Unhinged Covid Hearings Explained A kooky COVID hearing? Of course, it's happening in Arizona Arizona Republicans Embrace QAnon With Quack Covid Hearing Republicans 'investigating' Arizona's COVID-19 response will conveniently ignore the dead Arizona had the highest COVID-19 death rate in U.S. Somehow Data From Medical Professionals Sways Republican? LISTEN: Take Off Everything (nimino remix) by DwellsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I can't help but come up. We're recording this here on Friday. When it's not tomorrow, it fucks me completely up. Wait, what is it? The 27th? Yeah. Oh, right. Because it was just Memorial is it the 27th yeah oh right because it's 27 it was just memorial day the 27th national grape day national grape popsicle day national cellophane tape that's tomorrow the two days ago for the oh shit what is it what's the day we're looking for may 30th oh my god i'm gonna need a may 30th. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Coming right up, man. It's World Multiple Sclerosis Day.

National Creativity Day. National Mint Julep Day. National Hole in My Bucket Day. National Water or Flower Day. I don't know what Hole in My Bucket Day is. I don't know. I don't want to know, Miles. They missed National Mint Julep Day.

It's actually whatever day the Kentucky Derby is on. And this is not the time to be celebrating mint juleps after people have just gotten way too many of them in their system. Yeah. Oh, it's for the thing. There's a hole in my bucket. It's for that. For that kid's song? Yeah.

Are you becoming acquainted with the American songbook? No. No, you know what? I make up a lot of songs i realized that i sing to my kid yeah i'm i'm like you know me i'm like improvised so like i just get i get fixated on one word and then i turn that into a whole song but yeah i should probably help you know socialize yeah my kids ask me to improvise and like i just have the dumbest that like we were reading a book, and when they want me to add jokes, they're like, do it silly. And it was just all fart jokes beginning to end. That's how Superman flies is by farting. Fantastic.

It was not great. It was not my best material, but it killed. Well, I'm a great audience for that. It's not my best material, but it killed. Well, I'm a great audience for that. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, aka all the rich old pricks in their big dumb ships. You better run, better run, outrun my whales.

All the rich old pricks in their dumb sailing ships. Better run, better run, faster than my orcas. That is courtesy of La Caroni, courtesy of the orcas who are sinking sailing vessels, sailing yachts off the coast of Portugal, and also telling us, in retrospect,

what Free Willy should have been about. I think we now know. I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, a.k.a. This is how I sink your boat. You people think that you can float.

Blame you in audacity, baby. This is how your yacht will die. When I smash holes into the side. Blame you in audacity, baby. Whale. Okay. Shout out to AWOL Nation. To the tune of Sail by Hugo Bosque.

Again, another. Oh, yeah. That was coming through with the Bounty Hunter. Star Wars Bounty Hunter reference. There's a second verse where Gladys is referenced, but I didn't have the lung capacity to get there. But I will say, shout out to the Gladys reference. Shout out White Glad't have the lung capacity to get there. But I will say, shout out to the Gladys reference. Shout out White Gladys,

the leader of the whale revolution. It's also tough to sing these songs when we have a first time guest. Just be like, yeah, you gotta wait for a second verse. We're gonna keep going here. Hold on, hold on. Okay, this one's good. Gladys is a different breed.

A revolution she will lead. I didn't know we were going to be doing Morning Zoo song parodies. Yeah, baby. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian, professional tickler, whose latest special, Myself, just dropped everywhere fine comedy albums are bought and sold. It's the brilliant, hilarious emma arnold thank you i did not know we were supposed to come with a an orca related song i would have prepared

something every day for the past 3 000 days we've just been coming non-stop yeah uh even before the orca starts sinking sinking the boats yeah emma where are you at where are you at on this god's green earth god's green uh i am in boise idaho yeah we talked about the pronunciation before we started i was like miles you i said i'm an ignorant asshole i said boise and you're like don't fucking embarrass me further i gotta sing a an awol nation aka later yeah but emma you were cool about it you you're like it doesn't bother you but that is a thing that i've heard it is if you're in boise there are people who get very salty if

you call it in boise i don't mind i've always pronounced it both ways i've been here a long time and since i was 10 so i've always said both ways okay i'm gonna use that like if i go and i fuck up and someone gets mad i'm like actually emma arnold said i could yeah yeah so please back up how's the weather in boise boise it's rainy and nice it's supposed to be stormy all memorial weekend which actually i'm really feeling and uh because last year it was like 105 in the like early june it got very hot here very fast last year yeah i'm i'm loving it this is exactly what i want yeah it's like mopey rainy weather it looks like california is having a similar memorial day weekend, too. Mostly gray

clouds I'm seeing in the outlook. Yeah. Pretty standard, actually, for Los Angeles. Why are we talking about this? It's already happened. It's already happened. How was your Memorial Day weekend, everyone? So good. All right. Emma, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a little housekeeping up top for the first time in the history of the show we are trying a new publication schedule out for the summer we're going to scale back to a mere eight episodes a week we're going to try some new episode formats out because we want to it seems fun so there will be one episode on friday one episode on monday and we'll be trying different formats out we'll also be trying to hear from you. We're asking you to tell us about your job.

Hit us up with something people misunderstand about your job. Somebody who works in insurance, hit us up. Dental surgery insurance? Yeah, we're going to talk to them because they kind of confirmed what I always assumed about the insurance industry.

So, yeah. Hit us up at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter and the Discord. Let us know. But they kind of confirmed what I always assumed about the insurance industry. So, yeah, hit us up at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter and the Discord. Let us know. Former Navy intelligence. There's a lot of y'all hitting us up. I'm like, yeah, come on, please. More, more. Please bring that to us.

Nom, nom, nom, nom, nom. All right. And some things we're talking about today. We got the dystopia block and then we got the like little glimmers of hopefulness block. So the dystopia block will include such stories as Neuralink maybe getting FDA approval. I mean, Elon Musk or that, you know, the companies claiming it did. We we don't know because they've claimed such shit before. Yeah. Companies have claimed that they got approval when they didn't in the past

fuck that guy uh we'll talk about uh texas's newest solution to school shootings which is sending home winnie the pooh books with children that tell them to run hide fight in in adorable little ways we will check in with arizona arizona's unhinged covet hearings where they're like you know trying to make make some heads roll about it's how fauci came in and messed the whole dang thing up but it's being run by the people who are the reason that arizona had like one of the highest death rates of any what the highest in america and was like up there with countries that you know were the hardest hit by covet and then we'll talk about like a republican in the hope block uh we'll talk about france making me realize that there is a something

called a right to repair that i had just taken for granted as like not existing because i've grown up in america and i'm just like yeah okay whatever you want me to do corporation okay it's broken okay yeah you gotta have to get a new one i can't it's a lot of money just throw it away man hey he's got a new youtube album on it before we get to any of that shit, Miles, we do want to ask you, Emma, what is something from your search history? The top thing was skeleton popping out clip. I'm glad it wasn't like a WebMD. You were like, yeah, my skeleton is popping out.

Or Pornhub search. That's the only thing I'm interested in, really. Skeletons popping out. Or Pornhub search. That's the only thing I'm interested in, really. Skeletons popping out. No, my son had to do like an end-of-the-year finals thing. He had to make a video about a book he had read, and he needed some help making that, and so I, not to brag,

starred in it. I did play several roles in the video, and thank you. And his stepdad helped him edit it and get it all together but we needed instead of showing a dead body for this scene we showed a skeleton popping out so okay we didn't have a skeleton popping out i'm trying to picture is it is it the like cartoon image of like someone dying and then their skeleton pops out of no like like jump scare like indiana jonesy style like you know like a skeleton like

because the main character in the book finds a skeleton or finds a dead body essentially and then solves a mystery around the dead body so yeah wait so by googling that you were looking for like a clip of a skeleton popping out yeah to include in the video got you got you got you to cut into it we show we show him as character, fine, opening the door and then screaming. And then we showed the skeleton popping out. Wow. It was pretty high quality. It was pretty good.

Yeah. How old is your son? He is 15. He's my youngest. Got it. And because I remember like when I was in high school, like in the early 2000s, like the video project was like not very common. But I feel like is it is it becoming more and more common because you can do everything on an iPhone basically now?

I think so. Yeah. Like they had a couple options. I think you could have done, you know, the the old standbys, a diorama, a poster. All those things for sure. He wanted to do the video, though. Damn, video sounds hard, but I guess when you have a star in the household. Oh, thank you so much. You know, maybe just. Well, and his my husband is a video producer. He's an editor and a cinematographer. So anytime there's any kind of project like that, my kids are like, would you help me with this? And also, would you be way too into it and make it way too good for a high school presentation?

Right, right. Would you direct a short film for me? That's what it was right uh i saw him i saw him doing the title screen and stuff and i was like again i just want to remind you that this is for a ninth grade final uh not a an emmy nomination and he didn't matter i i we've been together long enough i don't try to tap the brakes as much anymore i just am like he's gonna do this he's gonna spend seven hours making sure this is right the most beautiful he colorized it you know what i mean like yeah he's like i gotta put it through da vinci if this isn't color corrected i look like an asshole and if i i'm you yeah fuck it i'm gonna

use flame and some 3d visual effects to make some cool titles stunning it's stunning right right teacher is gonna be very impressed so and also a note for books like a an improvement on the book books suck at jump scares i've always said that yeah so you know here you go here's something that my project has that this piece of shit could never couldn't do yeah i don't know i always have a chip on my shoulder whenever i'm doing a book report, I guess. Yeah, I think so. Book sucked. You don't believe that? Oh my gosh. I can't remember the name, but actually I was very impressed. You know, we live in Idaho and we've had politically this year, a ton of stuff happened with libraries. They tried to shut down a big chunk of our libraries. They are a ton of book banning stuff. And I was really impressed. It was a book about a young adult book about the Tulsa massacre and sort of these, uh, a child in the past. And I'm sorry, I can't remember the name,

but I also, I didn't read it. He just, I just helped with this project, but I was really, really cool. It was, uh, he was telling me about it. He was really excited about it. And it's exactly the kind of book that's getting pulled from our school system right now. So I thought it was really cool that his teacher picked that, that book out. It was, it was really interesting. Like the way he was describing it, I was like, this is so cool. I didn't hear about the Tulsa Massacre until Watchmen, you know, because I was like, oh, shit, what? You know, and like, I think a lot of people and then, yeah, it was really, really cool. He's already learned about that. And he was telling me the history of the Tulsa Massacre.

And I thought that was pretty cool of his teacher to choose that book. Yeah, sure. Especially given the stakes. I was talking to my seven-year-old about World War II yesterday because they were like, what's Memorial Day? And like, what are the wars that America has fought in? And then he was like, oh, yeah. And America won in World War II because they fought on the side with the biggest country and the most people, Russia. And I was like like that was not something i like that's that is correct so but that was something that like i had to like write

into an article at cracked about like here's some dumb shit that you believe about world war ii but you know like that so really yeah it does feel like they're doing a little bit better of a job yeah who actually defeated the Nazis? The Russians. I looked it up just because I felt bad. It's Dreamland Burning by Jennifer Latham. There you go. And he really enjoyed it. Very cool.

What is something you think is overrated? This is, I don't know, maybe kind of a basic one, but it's kind of top of my head. Football. I just think football is really overrated. And that's partly because my middle kid was a senior this year. He was always really into music. And then this year, he decided to start playing a bunch of sports randomly. He became like Mr. Sports guy, and he did football, wrestling and rugby. Football was so boring. Like you'd be there for like five hours. They play like once every 18 minutes. They play for 30 seconds seconds. It's so boring. I hated every second. I've never liked football. I was telling a friend of mine, a friend of mine,

a guy I dated who was a professional football player, I was telling him, or used to be, I was telling him about it and he was like, well, football is just like chess, you know,

you got to think about it like that. I'm like, also super boring to watch, like chess, that's not a ringing endorsement. It's actually really exciting to watch chess. I was like,

no, I don't want to watch. I'd rather watch chess. I love chess. Yeah, right. But then my kid played rugby and actually That's not a stop. they took state.

It was a big deal. They were like, somebody should make a movie about it. When the writer's strike is over, hit me up. You should make a movie. They were the underdogs. They had not enough people

on their team. Every player had to play the entire time. Oh my God. Basically, which rugby is like soccer. You are running, running, running. And they ended up taking state and it was really cool. But rugby is so fun to watch. And I don't understand why football is like our national pastime when it's horribly boring. Everybody gets head injuries. I hate it. Rugby is so fun. Also,

oh my gosh, since you're dads, you're going to love this too. After the match, they get into a big huddle. Both teams shake hands. They get into a big huddle. And then they stand up and they take turns saying something from the other team that they admired. Oh my gosh. Yeah. And after every match, I literally was like sobbing because it was so sweet.

They would get up and be like, yo, number 22, I thought that tackle you did on me was like really tight so great job and then number 22 gets up and he says something so it's just like the whole thing is about like camaraderie camaraderie and like when the kids get tackled they're like hugging each other afterward and laughing and like whereas football was very like toxic masculinity yeah and also the parents football parents maniacs maniacs, screaming, horrible things. Like I would go to those games and be like, these are children. Just so we're clear, still children. But rugby parents, all very cool. Very fun. Fun to sit with, you know.

So, yeah, football, overrated. I think we should toss it. There's that Winston Churchill quote about it. Like he said, the difference between soccer and rugby is like soccer is a gentleman's game played by hooligans. And rugby is a hooligans game played by gentlemen and you saying that made me really think about being like all right and good day to you number 22 solid tackle i did separate my shoulder there my my kid is gigantic he's like six five and the first day of rugby he came home and i was like did you how was it did you like it? It was like recess with linemen. It was so fun.

He said it was like lunch recess where you're just running around slamming into each other. Just chaos. By the way, it sounds like your son is a tremendous athlete. So this year for my senior year, I decided to play all the sports and win

state in one of them. Very cool. Congratulations. Thank them. Yeah. Very cool. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. Congratulations to that team. Yeah. What's something you think is underrated?

I just watched Nanny directed by Nikyatu Jusu. And I don't know if you've heard of it. Phenomenal. I feel like it's not getting enough love. Not I have hardly seen anybody talking about it. It's so beautifully shot. It's a, it's like a psychological horror movie about a nanny who works for this wealthy white family and she is black and it is so good and it is

chilling and beautiful and heartbreaking and just a really incredible film. So yeah, I, and I haven't seen hard to seem like hardly anybody talking about it. So yeah, I love it. Yeah. It came out in 2022 and i remember when it came out like the reviews were so positive and i was like i've got to see this and then it just disappeared from yeah like the conversation so yeah yeah i think people were a little like this is in a horror movie you know because it's

sure it's real it's different and it's real and it's really interesting and uh and they take it in like incredible directions so i think kind of horror fans were some horror fans were a little like i had to think during that yeah so they didn't like it but i loved it i thought it was absolutely stunning and you can watch that it would appear on max the one to watch really dot com i don't know i just said nanny where to watch because i speak to google like i'm just learning the english language oh mine says you have to throw your your pennies your your tuppence at jeff bezos for this one oh really yeah i watched it on amazon prime but um i think it's around okay hey look pick your poison you know it could

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And we're back. It's the dystopia block. All right. So Neuralink got FDA approval is what all the headlines are saying. the story goes they received long awaited fda approval to begin brain tests in human subjects soon the company will conduct invasive brain surgery on humans to determine whether its mind reading technology can help people with severe paralysis regain control over their bodies using only neural signals. But Elon Musk has also said that like he wants this to basically turn us all into cyborgs. Like, yeah, basically, this is a stepping stone for Elon Musk to achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence. This is this is why, because I get where they're starting right they're starting from like a noble place about trying to help people with paralysis you know

like and using this but then like when you zoom out to what his end game is he's like i want to merge the human brain with ai and we just saw what happened in that ron desantis twitter space fiasco the guy can't even get a live stream fucking going that now. I love that the way this is worded is to begin invasive brain surgery to determine whether it can help people. So what happens for the, you know, the ones that that they determine it does not work, in fact, work. Yeah. It had previously been rejected for just like the sloppiest sounding reasons. It was like, yeah, they were concerned about that. Like they you need to put a stick, a lithium battery in there.

And also they were worried that like wires could migrate to other areas of the brain. And we also and also whether the device could be removed without damaging brain tissue all seem All seem pretty big, significant concerns. We should also note that he has said before, this news is only coming from Neuralink, and Elon Musk has falsely touted regulatory approval before. In 2017, he wrote on Twitter that his tunneling firm, The Boring Company, had received verbal government approval for an underground hyperloop from New York to D.C. And that was news to every official involved in approving that. From New York to D.C. Yeah.

Emma, where are you? How's that going? Emma, where are you? Are you part of the 78% of people that have said, I'm not interested in shoving shit into my brain? Yeah. No, I think I'm hard in that 78%. It makes me sad because I feel like I'm a huge Star Trek fan. And I feel like this is the kind of thing that like, you know, 10 years ago, I would have gotten pretty excited about and like, we're doing it. Look, we're doing it.

But now it's like, uh, yeah, I don't think I'm going to get a Tesla lobotomy. Tesla lobotomy. No, I don't think I'll do that. Yeah. I think it's like you said, like Elon Musk has shown himself to be incompetent in pretty much every area. So, yeah, no. And also, I saw a line in that article that was talking about, like you were saying, the wires. I'm like, we're doing this with wires? That's where we're at with this?

Yeah. Oh, we have a lithium battery? Like, this is like a Walkman you glue to your head? Like, I don where we're at with this? Yeah. Oh, we have a lithium battery? Like, this is like a Walkman you glue to your head? Like, I don't, yeah. Just doesn't sound very high tech. Yeah, you can't fly in an airplane, though, with that lithium battery in your skull either. You're like, hold on, bro, you got a lithium battery up there? Oh, fuck, no.

No, no, no. You're going to need major brain surgery every time the double A's run out and you need to replace them. Oh, no. It's really, I mean, like, I get to your point, right? All the time, I feel like even as a kid, I'm like, oh, I wish there were glasses you could look at somebody

and know what they do for a living or pull this data or whatever. I was so curious as a kid. Terminator vision. Yeah, exactly. That's the only way I've ever been able to conceive of this. It's like, give me Terminator vision

and I want that information. Exactly. But now, I think conceive of this. It's like, give me Terminator vision. I want that information. Exactly. But now I think as we see just how like the difference between like what we maybe expect to happen and then you see the people that are involved in making it happen, you're like, ah, no, no, no, no. I don't trust this guy to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got to merge your brain with AI. Yeah.

How's that? You're already a creative person. But what if you could just, you know, muddle all of that ability to think by having a bunch more data being fed into your head? Yeah. And he kind of threatens you with it. Like, listen, even in a benign scenario, humans will be left behind by AI. So you might as well just merge them into your brain for a best case scenario. It that's a great reason for that. No. In a quote, he said, it's not going to be suddenly Neuralink will have this neural lace

and start taking over people's brains. Ultimately, he wants to achieve a symbiosis with artificial intelligence. And even in a benign scenario, humans would be left behind. humans would be left behind so it's like you know in his ideal scenario you are creating a group of super humans who can afford like massively expensive elective surgery to like enhance their brains and that's his ideal scenario of course because as he's let us know, like he is a fucking fascist Nazi. So like, of course, that's kind of his end goal is to make it so that wealthy people can, you know, turn themselves into Ubermensch. Help me like understand what is this benign scenario like where or even like where you're like, damn, I'm glad I got that chip. Because what? You have the chip and now what?

You have a job in advertising because you can just like regurgitate chat GPT like it's coming from your mind or something? Yeah. This whole thing is just like when he bought Twitter where it just comes down to basically his own insecurity. And I feel like this is basically Elon Musk being like, I'm not a smart man. Right. And I need a chip in my brain so i can seem like a smart man right he's like right basically that but yeah i guess that's in the benign scenario you're like somebody's like huh i wonder what the weather is next week and you can just boom you accessed it you know you're like where link twice and yeah yeah yeah we talked about how that interview where he like what came up completely blank for like 15 seconds and then just like

described a gif from a movie from like this bride yeah so it's like he is like man that everybody would want that it's like no just just you man your brain is like uniquely uncreative and weird and like even as a product like if i'm just like stepping back and like viewing this as like if you're an investor like the thing that is like unique about humans like if you just think about when you learn to drive a car and suddenly like the car becomes an extension of your body like it's not because it's like implanted in your brain it's that you like humans are really good at just like learning things and then those things like become kind of invisible and it becomes sort of like a neural input you don't need to do brain surgery

to achieve that like that like the product that ultimately will do well is something that achieves what he's looking to messages via just a code of electrical stimulations that you learn. There are people who have done it with little electrical stimulations on your tongue, and that allows blind people to get a map of what's around them. blind people to kind of get a map of like what's around them so like there are better versions of this his is just like the shitty flashy version i feel right yeah well again it starts off in a good place where you're like i'm trying to see if technologically we can help people that like wouldn't that could probably help from this potentially mind reading technology but when he's saying but at the end of the day though yeah what this shit is really for is to get your brain hooked up to ai and again i really don't see the use case for that if unless again like you're saying you're such a doofus like you're the kind of guy like he seems like the kind of guy who like sleep with the textbook under his

pillow and be like that's how i'm gonna study for the test it'll happen like this and now we're just like read the fucking book, man. Yeah. Read the book. No, I need a fucking brain chip. No, I need a brain implant. So next time I'm asking a CNBC interview. I don't want to read the book.

I'm rich. Yeah, exactly. I'll have it just, I'll download it. I think it's sad because I feel like, like you said, there's these practical applications, but even beyond,

you know, helping someone who's paralyzed or someone who's blind or deaf or something, navigate the world a little easier. I think it's sad because like something like this, some sort of neural link could be used for like communication, for connection, for like bringing us all together. But because of capitalism, it's like fascism. That's what it's used for is fascism for sure. Oh, yeah.

Superhuman and leaving other humans behind. No. Oh, cool. But what we all want to do thank you yeah yeah when it comes down to it i feel like it'll look like world war z we're all like the global pores are like like running like at their spaceships to bring them down manually as they try to leave it's not going to be because you have neural link yeah all right another little piece of dystopia like all all of this shit could be from Black Mirror easily. Yeah. This one.

Low tech. This is low tech. This is a little low tech, but it is, I don't know, it seems like of a piece with the ethos of some of the kind of cultures and civilizations you see in Black Mirror. Texas keeps loosening gun laws, but not to worry because school children are being given books starring winnie the pooh in which winnie the pooh and friends teach children what to do if there's an active shooter in their school it says like what one of the pages we have here if there is danger the police will come fast to catch the stranger until then remember what poo and his crew said to do run hide fight that is so that

just breaks my fucking heart so bleak you're a child has like in the fucking font is so like you know kids book and it's like they're like the words are balloons yeah and i'm sorry i feel bad for kids in texas because because look the anniversary of uvalde was just last week but you're saying if the if there's danger the police will come fast yeah i'm not sure even that part is true like there's and then on top of it be like okay so here's what to do based on here's a great entry point winnie the pooh yeah for the hide page there's a picture of pooh with his head in a pot of honey which seems like a terrible hiding place and also seems pretty dangerous like you at this age it's just the people who designed this book are like

so out of out of touch with like what you are worried about when you're a parent that like you don't want children sticking their heads in like small small things like that like the fight page the fight page okay the whole thing is bleak enough, but run and hide. You're like, OK, yeah, I'd have my seven year old to do that fight. We're telling these kids to fight back now against the gunman. Is there I don't see the page here, but, you know, like it's like, OK, everybody get your broomsticks or something. I mean, I don't even know.

I just get your get your little scissors that that have the blunt point so that you can't hurt yourself. The safety scissors, right. You've got your markers. It's so bleak. It's so terrible. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it's like you can stay safe with scissors just the same. Drag this blade across their jugular vein.

And you're like, what the fuck? What is this even yeah it's i yeah i don't i don't have the book so i'm not sure what the fight you know advice is but hopefully imagine yeah and then uh in texas's neighbor are they neighbors texas and arizona arizona has something going on so the ari Arizona State Senate just held a special committee to investigate the government's response to COVID-19 on the local, state and federal level, which I think that in theory. Sure. There were some big fuck ups that happened. It lasted for two whole days on Thursday and Friday with an all RepublicanRepublican committee inviting the testimonies

of a bunch of conspiracy theorists and bullshit artists. Also, it's called the Novel Coronavirus Southwestern Intergovernmental Committee, which seems like it's like, all right, that's a big mouthful of words. Why would they have named it that?

It's because that acronym works out to a q anon dog whistle that's yeah so it actually there's a q anon phrase nothing can stop what is coming and they were like that's how we'll let them know that we get what's going on here it's wild though too like that it's chaired by this woman, state senator Janae Champ, a former nurse who was fired for refusing to get vaccinated. Like that you see what the bona fides are for people to run for office these days. It's like this woman is running for New York state legislature. She's the woman who got in a fight over a city bike with some young black kids.

Like, you remember her? She should be in the government. And now like this is your campaign shit. It's like I should be in the government. And now like, this is your campaign shit. It's like, I should be in the government, uh, because I wouldn't get vaccinated and I'm one of the martyrs. And you're like, yep, yep, yep,

yep. Good enough for us. And cut to this complete, just fucking clown show where they're completely, you know, turning the attention away from the, the actual roots of maybe what happened in their state that made them, you know,

suffer the worst fatalities in terms of like per capita for like in the United States. Yeah. The worst death rate of any state in the U.S. Yeah. I mean, I'm living this up here. So, you know, in Idaho, like during our legislative session, there was a bill introduced in the House to make mRNA vaccines illegal. Right. And administering them illegal. So, and like in our health, our health board, there's like a QAnon, Dr. Ryan Cole, look him up. He's like a QAnon conspiracy guy. He, he says that it causes the vaccines cause cancer.

Like, you know, that's exactly the kind of stuff happening up here. And we had high death rates up here, especially for how small our population is and tons and tons of disabled people because of long covid and stuff and yeah kind of the exact same thing happening up here all republican you know uh pretty much all republican house passing things like we're gonna make mrna all right we're gonna make mrna illegal the entire thing so it's yeah i feel for arizona on this one it's it's weird because it's there's like this weird like they can't reconcile like their anger of that there's a pandemic but also there's clearly like a mortal fear of what could happen to you while also trying to persuade yourself that it's nothing at all yeah and like balancing all those is so wild because it just leads you to

be like like because they're angry like we need to figure out what went wrong because some people will reference that people died but then they're like but it's not the vaccines we want hydroxy chloroquine you're like what the fuck like yeah so is it a threat is it not a threat are you scared or or am i a pussy because i wear a mask like we had we had protests like all through, you know, the first year of covid. We had protests up here in Boise at the Capitol, like almost every weekend of people there burning masks, protesting the mandates. Never had a single mandate in Idaho. Never had a mask mandate. Never had like closure mandate. Like everything was very wide open and like you could kill as many old people as you wanted in Idaho. And but people were still there, like you said, like they're so angry and they're so mad and they would be down there protesting mask mandates when they're like it was it was people were so angry and they never really figured out why, I think.

And they're still really angry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The people on this, like the members of the Arizona board include people who decry masks as a form of tyranny. Fauci. But yeah, I mean, as we referenced, like they should be doing that. People should be looking into Arizona's mishandling of COVID and definitely mishandling of COVID at the federal level. But in the case of Arizona, it was the only state in the nation where COVID-19 was the leading cause of death during the pandemic. Former Governor Steve Ducey pandered to conspiracy-driven politicians by resisting lockdowns, issuing executive orders prohibiting vaccine mandates. And that's right. Yeah. The death rate was about the same as the world, the world's hardest hit countries, including Russia, Bulgaria and Peru. So, yeah, we need to look to be looking at these things, but instead

they're being looked at by the people who caused the problem. Yeah, well I think it's kind of I don't want to say genius, but the way they've co-opted the fear around it and they've been able to blend it together with economic anxieties and things too, because people will say

lockdown equals loss of income, although I've been experiencing equals loss of income although i've been experiencing a loss of income for decades now yeah and by sort of putting that in front of people you can now all of that anger is really about covid and these masks and shit like that when really it's not that it's the lack of support and the the inequality that fucking 98 percent of americans are experiencing so on that level they've really done they've really done a great job of just being like no no no like don't forget not economic issues it's these fucking tyrannical mask people right and yeah and immediately people can connect with like yeah i didn't work that's right that's true not because of you know uh these

like the greed of, you know, business owners or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Our writer, J.M., actually tuned into this for a minute on Friday. And there was a guy just ranting about hydroxychloroquine with a piece of clip art of the genie from Aladdin as a visual aid. So, you know, they all hate Disney until it's time to make a PowerPoint presentation. And then it's... I don't even... I don't understand this slide.

It says, when the Lancet said hydroxychloroquine causes ventricular arrhythmia, and then it's like the genie coming out of the lamp. Oh, well, you haven't seen the reveal yet, Miles.

It's going to be genius. Is it like you've never had a friend like me? Is it... Are we referencing a song? Like, what am I... What connection am I supposed to make with the genie? Robin Williams? Yeah.

Fun. Yeah. I guess maybe it's just enough to be like, and Disney. So there's that. And people are like, uh-huh. Yeah, bad. All bad. Yeah.

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But he just used his position to make his state the first in the South that has voted down a ban on gender affirming care for minors. And you're like, huh? What? As the chair of the Health and Welfare Committee, he blocked a gender affirming care ban bill from reaching a floor vote. And you're probably thinking, is this one of those moves where they vote down like the super vile, extreme fucked up version to make

it seem like okay we're not that bad and then just replace it with one that's just like a couple degrees less like fucked up yeah no it's that he read medical reports and analysis he read the report from his own state the state of louis's Department of Health, that said what basically all medical professionals have been saying about gender affirming care. No, it's not mutilation. It absolutely saves kids lives. It's not something people come to regret, like at some kind of ridiculous 30 percent rate or whatever, like those weird talking points that Republicans have. Most kids getting this kind of care are around 15 and 17, not four years old. Also, no minor child has ever received any kind of fucking surgery, despite all the lies you hear about like these doctors who will like mutilate your child, this, that and the other.

said, I read the reports and the stats, and I was convinced that this is something that should be left between a patient and a doctor because ultimately I trust doctors and that they're not like groomer pedo demons like my colleagues have been saying. I just, I don't know. I just read the thing. And again, it's important to note that while there's this report from the Department of Health in Louisiana, there was a similar report from Florida last year that a lot of Republicans have been waving around to be like, look at this report on gender affirming care from Florida. Okay. This is why, this is what we're fighting for. This is the report, as you can imagine, coming from Ron DeSantis' Florida was devoid of any kind of real medical research or anything. This is how

a Yale professor categorized this quote-unquote medical report from Florida. Quote, the report makes false statements and contains glaring errors regarding science, statistical methods, and medicine. Ignoring established science and longstanding authoritative clinical guidance, the report instead relies on biased and discredited sources, including purported, quote, expert reports that carry no scientific weight due to lack of expertise and bias so repeated and fundamental so repeated and fundamental are the errors in the june 2nd report that it seems clear that the report is not a serious scientific analysis but rather a document crafted to serve a political agenda and you're like wow uh how did this happen anyway the whack jobs in his party are already calling for the bill to be bypassed and sent to the floor for a full vote. The governor in Louisiana is a Democrat and he would most likely veto it. But again, it's a fully red state house so they could override the veto. So it could be an interesting merry-go-round. moment uh for anybody who is who is who gives a shit about gender affirming care and rights for

trans people and just a brief it's just like this weird moment where a guy that looks like a cartoon version of republican like actually read the facts and i'm still i'm still shaken to my core and yeah now he's being harassed like the national right wing apparatus is like this guy's a groomer and already coming after him and when he was asked by the local paper if he cared about all the people focused on him he said quote why should i didn't run to serve them they don't live in district 22 they don't even have a 337 area code so i'm like wow interesting think for yourself sometimes yeah it pays off it's just yeah the similar thing, I feel like, in Utah where they had like a super hard line bill and there was like.

Well, one passed in Idaho up here. This session, HB 71 passed the House. It bans all gender affirming care for minors. The governor signed it becomes law January 1st up here. January 1st up here. And we're already between that and our extremely draconian anti-abortion laws. We're actually seeing a ton of medical professionals leave the state. We're losing a ton of doctors because I talked to a doctor on my podcast or our podcast, I guess. But he said that, like, you know, you go to school for 10 to 15 years. You can't risk a felony charge. You can lose your medical license for a felony charge. And all it takes is somebody to say that you provided gender

affirming care to a minor. You don't even have to be fully indicted and everything like that and be found guilty because what will happen is just the charge itself will make it so that you lose your malpractice insurance and you can never get it back once you've lost it. It's very difficult. So they were like losing tons and tons of doctors from the state right now because they're like, I'm not going to fuck with that. I'm not going to risk losing my malpractice insurance. And I kind of feel like in a way that Idaho, you know, Idaho, Utah, Florida, these places were like test cases for these really horrible, horrible laws. And what you're seeing is places like Louisiana say, oh, actually, maybe this is a terrible fucking idea. Also, sadly, I watched all the hearings for HB 71. And it was very, very heartbreaking to see how many of the Republican

senators and House members said, I read the research. All the research goes against this bill. I have trans family members that this will affect, you know, minors. I think this bill is terrible. Still voted for it. They all still voted for it. And it was like a ton of people who were like, I'm morally opposed to this and then still voted for it because they didn't want to deal with the fallout. They didn't want to deal with the national right wing, you know, fascist machine coming after them. So they just voted for it. you know, fascist machine coming after them. So they just voted for it. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's like, it's so this, the way this guy looks, I got to show you this guy, Dr. Fred Mills.

He like, if I just showed you based off just a vibe check, you'd be like this Republican, you think he's a, where do you think he lies there? He's got like a, like a all white seersucker suit. Like he looks like foghorn leghorn as a doctor or some shit uh but yeah it is like again and i think this is only to do with the fact that his background as a pharmacist probably led him to have half a fucking brain when it comes to like medical research to know yeah there's shit i don't know yeah and if all of these professionals who like i know are not like, like, you know, goony whack jobs are saying this is actually beneficial for these like young people.

Who the fuck am I to like push back against that? And yeah, a lot of people suspect, you know, his terms coming up and this is maybe like his last act to do something like normal before like, you know, exiting politics. But my God, yeah, he he clearly wasn't fazed by like people like Matt Walsh coming after him because we're seeing constantly like, you know exiting uh politics but my god yeah he he clearly wasn't fazed by like people like matt walsh coming after him because we're seeing constantly like you know like we talked about last week the target stuff how many how easily you're seeing people cave to this kind of outrage in a time that like you know this the the attacks on like gay and transgender people in america is just it's like there there've there been a hundred bills i think that have been anti-lgbtq bills that have signed the last five years and 50 of them have

come this year jesus christ like that's the that's like the rate at which this shit is ramping up and yeah we're in a time more than ever where we need to be able to like demonstrate like that we stand with these communities but again if you have enough people who want to go live on Instagram and tear down your fucking store displays in a target and then yeah, it's, it's causing a real back and forth that it's unfortunately just leading to more discord and violence. Yeah.

And again, I like it, it really is not the majority of people. Like this is a extremist group that is taking control of like politics and it's like carefully coordinated and they're using insurgency tactics to like and dark money and the fact that they have a lot of money behind them to do these things but i mean like there there's this uh recent report that like 11 people are primarily responsible for the majority of book ban requests like that in right like that we're seeing that happen in so many places across the country and it's just like a handful of extremist people it again it reminds me of like the Westboro Baptist Church, where for a decade they were like at all these events and you were like, man, people in America are so dumb. And then that you find out it's like a single family that is doing this shit.

i just think there is sometimes a level of like hopelessness that might take hold because the way the media covers it is that it's like well that's half the country and the they're reasonable people in the other half and it's like not it doesn't seem to actually be the case yeah just well you i've seen it a lot with like you know like in states like montana other places that have had like drag bands where people come out and they counter protest the fucking ignorant people who want to go and be hateful and they're fucking outnumbered every fucking time i've not seen one time where there are more like hateful bigots you know out there in mass than a group of people who are there for acceptance or equality and they're like man, there's just more people here. And yet I think it is it is a little it is dangerous to like kind of keep focusing on a way because it does give this impression.

But just like we talked about with like Moms for Liberty, there were enough parents who saw Moms for Liberty groups pop up in their areas and they were just like talking to other parents like this is bullshit. Right. And they're like, yeah. And like, do you even know these people? Like, no, I never fucking heard of these people. They don't even have kids in our school district. Yeah. Let's just they're well funded right and they're like yeah and like do you even know these people they're like no i never fucking heard of these people they don't even have kids in our school district yeah let's just they're well funded and they're yeah exactly what really

well organized like when hp 71 went to the governor like when it went the anti-trans bill went to the governor's desk here you know everybody all of us were like call call call the governor email and in the end uh he got thousands and thousands of calls and emails in support of trans people and against this horrible bill. But the group funding it, the Idaho Family Policy Center, which is funded by outside money, people not even from Idaho, they robocalled. They set up robocalls to the governor and they were able to make it look like they had more calls like on paper. But then it turned out that they had spent like five thousand dollars to get these these calls.

They were just robo calls. They were fucking fake. So like, yeah, I think it's easy to think, oh, oh, we're outnumbered by these bigots. But even here in Idaho, which is probably one of the hardest places to be trans, like Florida and Idaho maybe are the hardest places. But even here, I really think that the average person does not give a shit. And it's really One of the hardest places to be trans, like Florida and Idaho maybe are the hardest places. But even here, I really think that the average person does not give a shit. And it's really these outside actors who are the same people who are burning masks. Like, you know, they just they were able to take this this group of people, get them very fired up. These QAnon people get them fired up about masks, get them fired up about tyranny. And then now they can just laser beam them to anything they want essentially and

it's it's not that many people like you said it's like 11 people with a lot of time on their hands right yeah yeah and i like the i i think this is distinct from trump supporters i think trump does have a lot of supporters who show up at the ballot bot like unfortunately like that doesn't show up at the ballot bot like unfortunately like that doesn't seem to carry over but like the stuff that focuses on like trans people and you know gender affirming care and you know a lot of the the school book bans like i think most people even if even if they're trump supporters are like i don't want my children to like not be able to read books but like right the trump the trump supporter in the q anon thing is like it maybe not q anon but the trump supporter base is always like surprises me in the other direction like how

big it actually turns out to be unfortunately yeah well i mean there's there's a white grievance politics and then they're totally off the walls. Like we basically want Nuremberg laws. Yes. You know, right. For gay people. And that's I think, you know, that's like the one historical parallel that we have to be able to be like there's like we're seeing this momentum building against a group that is on the margins of our society. And this is, I don't know, my history, my history lessons.

I'm like, OK, well, we got an election coming up. And I've read all these stories about how Trump's next bite of the apple is like going to be if he gets into office. It's all about radically expanding the powers of the president's office. Yeah. And it all, I don't know know seems seems really bad yeah just as a historical pattern which is why like yeah let's get you a winnie the pooh book and yeah i think that would be nice for my fight yeah i think that would be really nice and soothing and yeah maybe

that's what it takes all right well emma it's been such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you. Yeah, this has been so fun. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Well, like you said, I have five albums and you can listen to them anywhere you listen to albums. I also have two specials on YouTube you can watch. They're both very funny. Yes, please.

And myself. And I post pictures of clouds on Instagram, but I don't really do a ton of social media. I'm on Twitter, but I don't do a ton with it. And yeah, those are the places you can find me. And you have a podcast. in Boise. And then I have a podcast called The Book of Holy Fuck, which I don't update very often, but it's a horror storytelling podcast. But the episodes take me a very, very long time because they're brutal. They're very hard to do. So but they're great. I have another one coming out here pretty soon. But yeah, they take me I was like, Oh, I'm gonna do these once a month, once a year. It's a once a year podcast. People really look forward to it. There you go. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

Yes, I just finished and I think I'm going to play through again Disco Elysium. I don't know if you've played through it. It's like this incredible RPG storytelling video game and it's Estonian and it is so beautiful and so bizarre. And it was made by these guys who had like a tabletop role playing game that they created their own universe. And then from this gigantic universe that they created together, they created this video game. And I after one playthrough, I immediately was like, I have to play through this again, because every decision that you make drastically alters what happens. And it is just like, it's wild. It's so big and it's so brilliant and so beautiful. And it's all kind of steeped around the death of communism and lots of things. It's incredible. If you haven't played it before, you have to play it. It's so beautiful. Yeah, the visuals are wild.

Yeah. Hey, Jack, they got it on Switch, poppy. Oh, nice. Yeah, it visuals are wild. of post-apocalypsey and it's got like a supernatural element it's incredible and you're solving a mystery and i encourage you i played it very straight the first time around i have a tendency to do that play it as weird as you want that's my advice if you play it don't be afraid to get very weird with it i played it very i was like worried about losing you can't lose the game so it's i mean you can die and i did a bunch of times i got killed by a fan about 700 times so is it pretty fast paced or is it kind of like turn-based rpg it's so like it's text-based so you'll you'll go and talk to somebody and then you'll have these different options and then from there different very weird things will happen and or and then they'll be like you you are totally just sort of like choosing

exactly where you want to go and how you sort of direct the story yourself. And so when I played through, my husband came in and was like, oh, did you did you meet so and so? And I was like, no, I never even got to play an entire part of the game because I had not said the right thing to one person. So I missed like a third of the game, which is incredible because I can't believe how big it is. But yeah, it's I don't I would not say it's fast paced. There's, you can read it or listen to it. There's a lot of dialogue to it, but it's all really beautifully written.

And the story is really, really interesting. And the world, like the deeper you get into it, you just can't believe the world building. It's just incredible. So yeah. And if you like the game, research the history of what happened to the people who made it because they got massively fucked over in a way that they predict in the game, like that capitalism will fuck over people in the game. The people who made the game, it's actually really fascinating what ended up happening to them.

I suggest you check it out. They get massively fucked over almost in the exact same way. So sort of prophetic, very sadly, but an incredible game. you check it out they get massively fucked over almost in the exact same way so uh sort of prophetic very sadly but but an incredible game so check it out i don't play video games but i love having video games described to me for some reason and that that was a very enjoyable experience so thank you i i could describe this one to you for three hours oh yeah i just like that like how people describe it i just like having very little combat because that is something that is so like central to so many video games like where's the fucking action and i like that this one is really based on like your decision making and

how you're navigating and and your emotional state like you can it's very interesting because so much is built around like if you have empathy yeah if you're brave, if you're cruel. It's very interesting. Sounds like a nice respite from my day-to-day life, which is all based around my combat ability. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, Twitter, Instagram, other app-based services, at miles of gray uh find jack and i on our basketball podcast miles and jack got mad mad and if you like 90 day fiance in the trash

universe around that check out my other show with sophie alexandra called 420 day fiance yeah sophie is the best she really likes idaho too, she's come up here quite a bit. We're friends. She's visited. She comes up here. She likes Idaho. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, this all makes sense.

Sophia, you hearing this? I know you don't literally listen to Zeitgeist, but I know spiritually you are right now. Let's see. Some work of media. Man, at Blockbuster on Twitter. Just always with the saltiest Netflix clapbacks. Although I'm always like, these are kind of weird because y'all could have bought

Netflix and you locked them out of the room. So it's a little interesting. But anyway, at Netflix tweeted, a friendly reminder that when you used to rent videos from us, we didn't care who you shared it with as long as you returned it on time. And then they just put at Netflix. It's just petty as fuck.

Actually, I don't know that that's true because of one of the tweets that i've been enjoying okay miles uh where ron iver tweeted kids in the 90s i'm just gonna pop in this 101 dalmatians vhs fbi if you do copyright infringement we are going to hunt you kids in the 90s what's copyright infringement fbi we will bury you in god's earth so i i seem to remember a lot of warnings at the beginning of that that was like you can't publicly show this to other people you were shook by that fuck you over i wasn't shook by it i was always i i did like read it sometimes and be like what is this what are they warning about and i remember yeah my i remember as a kid because every video you watched had that

like very that same visual that came up i remember asking my parents they're like it's nothing don't worry about it not my parents they were like you see you see what happens you can yeah are you pirating are you pirating and i was like are you a pirate i don't know we're not pirates in this house pirate are you huh are you in a fuck does that mean anything to you are why are you tossing a knife between your hands jingle ghost tweeted i can't believe the universe gave trump another jeb and i think that's what we're looking at i really think that's a good summation of what we're seeing from DeSantis. From little Rob

as Trump has started calling him. Rob? He started calling him Rob. Just acting like he just I don't know her to him. No! You're killing me! I hate how good at insults he is. He's so good. He's so good at it. And like ethically, I'm like

is it okay to call someone by Trump's nicknames he is. He's so good. He's so good at it. And like, ethically, I'm like, it's okay to call someone by Trump's nickname for them. Like, it's so funny. When it's Rob DeSantis, I think so. I think we're good. Rob DeSantis.

Yeah. Rob. Fuck off. But yeah, I think that is the main thing. That's why he has the big following and these other assholes don't. Oh, it's all branding.

Yeah, it's branding because he is fun to watch. As he brings forth the forthright. Yes. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily

Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy hey miles is there a song that you think people might enjoy i think there is and if you're a elder millennial like me who likes rap this kind of fits and it's a very interesting space this is a remix by nimino n-i-m-i-n-o and you can only find this on soundcloud

and uh it's a it's a mashup of kendrick lamar and radiohead uh and it's pretty good i gotta say it's using the instrumental um from everything in its right place uh with what is it is it united in grief what's the one that take off the foo-foo? Take off the take off everything? That track from Mr. Morales? I think that might be. Yeah, is that the one? Is that the first track?

Anyway, it's Kendrick. It's Radiohead. It works surprisingly well. Is that one N95? Oh, yeah. I think it might be N95. Yeah, I think that's N95. But yeah, it's called Take Off Everything.

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