The Daily Zeitgeist - The Elderly Face of Antifa, Cops Less Regulated Than Barbers 6.10.20

Episode Date: June 10, 2020

In episode 648, Jack and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by Scam Goddess and comedian Laci Mosley to discuss one proposal requiring cops have a state license, Camden, New Jersey having disbanded their police department seven years ago, the mainstream media's coverage of the protests, Trump calling a 75 year old man Antifa, protests needing to get Covid-19 tests, and more!FOOTNOTES: Require Cops To Get State License? Gov. Pritzker Considering Proposal This city disbanded its police department 7 years ago. Here's what happened next The Headlines That Are Covering Up Police Violence WATCH New York police boss Mike O'Meara went off on the media today Trump, Citing ‘Conservative Treehouse,’ Says Man Shoved to Ground Set Up Buffalo Cops DC National Guard members called to respond to protests test positive for COVID-19 While Coronavirus Case Rate Slows in Some Areas, Others Accelerate WATCH: I Love My Body by Maya Rudolph featuring Chrissy Guerrero, Jessi Klein, Chelsea Peretti, Jenny Slate, and Mark Rivers Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, the deals are plentiful. Always in the market for some lukewarm to hot topics. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zyte Moore. She is the hilarious. She is the talented. She is the scam goddess, Lacey Mosley. Hey. What's going on? How y'all doing? Good. It's good to have you. I feel like my voice sounds different because I've been shouting a lot. I know how to do it from the diaphragm, but it still feels like it's a little hoarse. I was shouting a lot at protests to the point where people would come over with Ricolas and water and tea and stuff.

That's so nice. I guess we're all adapting to becoming better protesters. We gotta have some more Ricola people on the ground. Yeah. I've also talked to people, and I talked about this on Twitter jokingly, but you know Black Lives Matter and a lot of people who have been protesting have been on these streets every single Wednesday for many years. But it's fun and interesting to see so many new, like, non-POC and white faces at these protests,

like most of the time outnumbering the black and brown people simply because of the proportions of the city. And you get new fun things that come with that, like no rhythm no more. Where is all this street? And, you know, there's certain chants that people always say like say her name and you know the Black Lives Matter chants but it's fun because

if all the Black Lives Matter people who have been protesting start to get too congealed or if we're too spread out because there's thousands of people then white people have to lead the protest chants and boy have I been hearing some hilarious white people protest chants. My favorite right now is, what's her name? Breonna Taylor.

Does this guy just not know her name? What's her name again? Oh, no. Yeah. And I love it. I love it. I could not be more proud of these white people out here just trying the best they can clapping on the one in the three uh for justice for justice i've been enjoying uh

people who i mean it's i don't have the con the the confidence in any situation to start a chant on my own i just don't i don't possess that like i can't do it but i do admire someone who starts a chant and then bails in the middle of it and everyone around them is just like what do we do like what were they going to say wait bails mid in the middle of starting the sentence oh yeah like if i've been in an area of like a protest crowd that like has just been quieter, then someone will start. But there was a time, I think it was like last Thursday or Friday, where someone was like, what's this?

And then just like bailed in the middle and everyone was like, oh, oh no, what do we do? And just... Do we finish it? Yeah. Does this person needs support what is the proper amount number of like times that you shout something without anyone joining you before you're like okay that's that's not happening i can answer this because it recently happened during the hollywood protest that's another thing is like some people just don't understand protesting. So like when people do call and response, they don't get like,

the reason we do that is so when people are walking by or if they're listening, they know why we're protesting and they know what we want. But some people don't know. And so they're kind of just at, you know, angry black Coachella. And I would say three times. I gave him three times to be like, hey guys, this is what you should do. And it's only happened once at the Hollywood protest when it was just so lit out there. And I was like,

you know what? I understand. Y'all have y'all signs. Turn up. Just glad you're here. Drone shots are going to be great. Yeah. That YG video is going to be great. Yeah. That YG video is going to be great. Oh, yes. All right, Lacey,

we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We are going to talk about this radical idea of police may require licensing going forward, which is another one of these, like the eight that can't wait, like one of those ideas where it's like,

wait, what? That's not the official policy already? We'll talk about Camden, New Jersey, briefly. They are a place that abolished their police, disbanded their police department a few years back and how that worked. We'll talk about how the mainstream media is covering the protests right now, how Trump is responding to the protests, and where we are with coronavirus. and where we are with coronavirus. All of that, plenty more. But first, Lacey, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So my search history right now,

I feel like in the current climate, I'm trying to keep a balance of like, yes, I'm feeding people constant information and I'm receiving and learning as much as possible. But also just like some dumb shit so that my brain just doesn't fall apart and this is one of those things that is still rooted in activism but dumb shit um I recently uh got caught wave of like the company Dawes Kill and you know they were doing some very inappropriate things when it comes to Black Lives Matter and

then also people were like this isn't the first time like they've been doing this. So they issued an apology and somebody tweeted or Helen tweeted. Shout out to Helen. She tweeted, I'm losing it thinking about graphic designers being asked to design apologies, but keep it on brand. So they have like she has all these photos of different brands and dolls kills is like we fucked up we should have been quicker plus louder and then i was like really starting to get interested in dolls kill um so i started going on their website and like looking at their clothes it's basically like hot topic for like hoochies right which I'm a hoochie so you know I was like they

got things over here that a hoochie would enjoy um but obviously I can't purchase from them right now so I was in this conversation more deeply and why did we discover an email from someone who reached out to the company I think it was actually Helen because she found a costume up on the website that was racist. And she reached out to them. And wait, I have to read you guys this email because then I was like, who are these people? And I don't know. I need more. So the email says, hey, Dom, the last thing dolls kill would be or represent is racist.

We love and value individuality and originality. Our company was created to represent all dolls of all flavors, colors, ideas, etc. We're here for the misfits, mislegits, and everything in between. Oh, my God. I'm sorry. It gets worse. I'm sorry if that costume offended you you but to call us racist is pretty ridiculous in all caps we're brassy sassy wait wait here's it here it is it gets every sentence is crazier

than the last we're brassy sassy stick it up your assy kind of company not for the easily offended norm culture so take a chill pill and get your panties out of a bunch because it ain't that serious cutie winky face this is from a company oh fuck that's like every corny phrase in the space of four sentences the that was that oh my god it's from a company when was my soul just left my body and jumped so i can't really say anything right now this email is september 24th 2014 no jeez so i don't know if their company policy has changed but I was like can you imagine a world where a company emails you like this like hey ho

it's us so they're like a boutique store right in LA and they tweeted a picture that was like had a bunch of cops protecting their store and they were like yeah come and get it assholes uh and that was like how this kicked off and then everyone was like oh they're problematic

as fuck they're the worst yeah and they have an online store too um much like the nasty gal vibe if you've ever heard of that boutique but i was just so fascinated like all i want is more emails from jaz kill because i need to know if they're still emailing people like this so i was like searching to see like if anybody else had posted emails because i was like why there is that was like attached to the tweet that had where i think like helen was mentioning how even with the like apology emails yeah, there's still the graphic design is consistent, which you're like, that's so cringy of just... Right.

Oh, like someone's intern had to be like... The graphic design intern who was working on that is listening, please forward the email thread because I can just picture them the risk like them being like actually let's put fuck in there so that we yeah quicker plus louder quicker louder that's gonna what is uh what's something you think is underrated um i think underrated is plants and flowers in your home. I didn't realize how nice it is to have another living thing in my home besides me. It's really done.

I used to think like for me, like a plant's like a baby. So I was like, I can't get pregnant with a plant yet. I'm not responsible enough. The plant baby will die. and i'm not trying to experience that trauma so i hadn't done it but now that i've been in my house for so long i was like i should get some plants and some stuff in here and it really has like kind of right in my mood a bit if that makes sense like do you guys have plants in your homes i still don't trust myself i have animals but i don't trust myself with a plant

i need to unpack the animals alive the plants don't make noise if you don't give them water yeah yeah that's my fear yeah is that is that the alert system you're on right now there's like yeah i'm not responsible enough to keep plants from dying but doesn't stop me from trying how is being a plant parent um it does make me feel better than people so thank you guys for not owning pants because now i feel just the superiority of owning a plant um some of us create nature. Others cannot. It's true. Like God created the heaven and the earth, I created one plant.

No, but it's good. It's still very early. Anything could happen. Don't ask me about this plant the next time that I come on this show because I don't know if it's going to be a lot. It sounds like a Tinder relationship now too where you're like, so far so good, next time that I come on this show because I don't know if it's gonna be a lot yeah it sounds like a tinder relationship now too where you're like so far so good but you know

what is something you think is overrated overrated and that's why I didn't want to say this um is the gym um I haven't gone to a physical gym in months and I thought that I was going to fall apart but I've found uh this new free gym called outside and you don't need a membership and uh there's lots of scenery and I'm actually going on a hike later today in Mount Washington to get some different views but I've I've really enjoyed physically being outside um in a way that I never did before. I was just going to the gym. So I think I'm going to add outdoor workouts back to my gym workouts when the gym opens up. Because it's nice.

Yeah. And there's not other people sweating all over outside. Whatever you touch outside is covered in someone's sweat. Right. Yeah, it doesn't have a smell to it. I mean, I do like the sauna and I do like swimming, so I'm going to have my gym. But I do think it's nice.

It just feels more endorphin boosting when I'm outside because I feel like in LA we're in our cars or in buildings. We're not just like outside as much without it being a planned event. Yeah, I think i've gotten like physically healthier without i don't know i've like had a gym membership for a time but i was it was just more as a security blanket to know i could go at some point if i wanted to same yeah but yeah i i'll be interested to see like what the protests affect on coronavirus rates is because it does seem like outdoor has been the thing like the cure-all for the spread of the coronavirus like we're told that like it's much harder to spread it and you're when you're

outdoors you're outdoors, you're much less likely to be standing next to the same person for a long time. So I'm hoping for a number of reasons that the protests don't lead to an uptick. Being out there, most people are practicing social distancing as much as you can when you're in a crowd of 20,000 people.

But everyone I saw pretty much had on a face mask and was yelling through the face mask. Because that's the issue. It's like the droplets and you are yelling a lot more at a protest. But from what I saw, and I really wasn't interacting with a lot of strangers. It was a lot of backs of people's heads. So I'm hoping, hell, I'm hoping I don't got the Rona. Every day I wake up, I've been checking my throat and smelling and tasting as hard as I can. I'm like, do I got it?

Do I have it? Yeah. So I think that's why they're opening LA. I saw bars with lines a couple days ago. Bars with lines out the door. So everybody's out now they were like protest all right now the bar that's yeah that's what i'm right that's what i'm thinking is that seeing the protest if you believe in black lives hey i think seeing the protest made people be like well

now i can go to uh applebee's because those people are next to each other. And that's probably not good policy. And I can also see that leading to an uptick and then people being like, see the protests. The protests caused an uptick in coronavirus when it's actually that everybody's going and getting drunk in the same sweaty room together. Yeah, and in places where there's not great social distancing and states where masks aren't required anymore is like, yeah.

It feels like people are going to use this as an excuse. I just wish that people would still practice social distancing and maybe wear a mask if you're going out. What's the harm? I don't want people to just start coughing in the air and throwing their when they droplets you know do the stanky leg just because we did some protests like yeah i think it's it is just like equating like the urgency of a black lives matter protest and the urgency of you just wanting to go to a j's is there. It's very different. It's like,

you know, I don't know. Prioritize. Lacey. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true? You know,

to be false. Um, this is probably random, but, uh, my myth is that Guy Fieri is a douche bag. Cause, um,

Guy Fieri is a great guy and he's donated millions of dollars to unemployed restaurant workers he's openly spoken out about Black Lives Matter long before we reached this point with George Floyd and Breonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbery um he's he's out here for the people and and all this time you know I feel like we've been kissing asses of other problematic ass chefs because we thought that his shirts and spiky hair were ratchet but he's actually a great guy and I love him 100% agree he's got a good heart and he like I don't know he like walks the walk as well like he gives he gives back he doesn't just say stuff yeah I mean like I can look out to like 2015 when he was out at protests in DC for Black Lives

Matter like he's been around and like he's donated so much money to worthy causes like just googling it I was like is he a saint we should start making prayer candles with him. I bet they exist. Right. I want a Guy Fieri prayer candle so badly. But I just think we always look down on him. Yeah. Miles was talking on a recent episode

about how his relationship to Guy Fieri really made him, like he had almost a spiritual experience in reevaluating how he feels about guy fieri he truly did yeah i i'm the same way like celebrities just occupy brands and you know like einstein is still the smart guy brand jordan is still the basketball brand and like i feel like guy fieri like and larry the cable guy kind of got mixed up at some point in our national consciousness. And they're just fully different.

Yes. That's exactly what it is. Because I think that Guy Fieri's aesthetic has long been co-opted by racists and by just kind of like the you know the white people that you really just disdain like that one uncle in the family that she's like oh god he's coming and you know he's gonna be drunk off beers and doing all his blackie jokes uh and we just thought that that was what Guy Fieri was doing because of how he dressed and how he talked and the food he cooks. We were wrong. We weren't listening. Yeah. No.

And there's so many people getting canceled right now, quote unquote. So it's nice to lift somebody up and not all be so bad. And hopefully Guy doesn't go back, but he seems to have been doing the right thing for many years now. So I'm not worried about having to walk this back.

Somebody tweeted a picture of his hands and just yet another lovable thing is he has plump little baby hands. They're not the size of a baby. They're like grown up sized hands that are in the shape of a plump

little baby hand. I bet they're soft. I know. They've got to be so so soft nice uh i love that that's jack's contribution he's like and he also has plump baby okay he's great all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a proposal for you come up here and document my project all you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours.

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it's tough because these would all these would all be uh steps in the right direction but it's also we we've had steps in the right direction that have just given way to like the inherent white supremacy of almost every police force uh in the country yeah yeah. Yeah. I mean, the police force is their origination is the slave patrol. And so I think a lot of people are confused when they think that white supremacists have infiltrated the police. They were created for white supremacy and they're doing their job excellently. I think a lot of black people are we're no longer at the point where we want reform like eight can wait because 72% sounds cute. But who trying to be in that 28?

Not me. I don't want to be 28% murdered. I'm good. I want 100% reform. And so these gestures are absolutely headed in the right direction. And I appreciate that we're creating a dialogue that is about reform. But, I mean, defunding the police is the start to this reform. We've tried.

We gave them more money and resources and they was just beating our asses with it. I can't believe I got paid taxes to get murdered. I got to pay the police to harass me. So I've heard it can wait. And a lot of black activists and leaders in the coalition, you know, we we don't approve. Not that I'm the leader of this, but the overwhelming majority of the feedback from these propositions has been no, girl, we want it. We want it all. We will not coming back to fight next week. Like we tired. Yeah. So after we discussed it yesterday, I had a few people in my menchies um and and i guess yeah

i think that i jumped on the show very quickly yesterday and so i gave a very broad explanation of what eight can't wait is i understand that eight can't wait says that the ultimate goal is to abolish the police but that has nothing to do with the reforms that they're suggesting. These reforms have been tried in various ways in various places so many times. They're expensive, and we know that they don't work. And I just wanted to pull a quick quote from the 8 to Abolition website that explains way clearer than I possibly could

why they do not approve of the 8 Can't Wait campaign. So they say, Campaign Zero released its 8 Can't Wait campaign offering a set of eight reforms that they claim would reduce police killing by 72%, which we know. As police and prison abolitionists, we believe that this campaign is dangerous and irresponsible, offering a slate of reforms that have already been tried and failed that mislead a public newly invigorated to the possibilities of police and prison abolition and that do not reflect the needs of criminalized communities. So that states it better than I ever

in my life could. But yeah, I mean, the criticism of 8 can't wait, like no matter where it's coming from of like a we're trying to get passed is Breonna's law. Still in the U.S., 48 states have no-knock warrants, which basically means they can come into your house without knocking whenever they want, as long as they have a warrant from a judge. So that's something that we're trying to get rid of. But I do appreciate that people are really trying to enact policy. But yeah, we've been here so many times that I think this time around, we're really hoping that it's not going to be the same loop of violence, the same uptick of support, and then the same forgetting of these situations that always happens a few weeks after. Their effect is to make you shocked that those things aren't in place, like that licensing is not a requirement for police, even though it's a requirement for doctors and hairdressers and literally everything that could impact your life in any way.

And a story that was on CNN, actually, about Camden, New Jersey, which abolished their police years ago. And it was after very similar complaints to what's going on in Minneapolis. And they've had a lot of success. It hasn't been perfect, but they've seen the violent crime in the city cut in half. Whereas a lot of the people who are so shocked about the idea of abolishing the police are are amazed that like people they just assume that because humans are cruel or their version of humanity is cruel uh that it's just going to be a complete you know free for all of people killing and robbing each other. And actually, when they abolished their police and reformed it in a new way that was from the ground up,

they saw violent crime cut in half. And the reforms are all things like police abolitionists are talking about, like having better representation. And yeah, it's just an interesting story that if you are one of the people who's like police abolition is a non-starter, you should at least realize that your version of what would happen if the police were abolished

in your town, you need to learn more because that clearly isn't what happened in one of the places that actually did it yeah it's like and not for nothing it's not a non-starter because it's starting yeah exactly and if you google it it's not as scary as it seems it doesn't mean that there won't be people to come that you can call to help you a lot of it is about unarming people who should not have guns in the first place. You don't need guns to do a wellness check. We've seen so many wellness checks go from the person actually was fine when we got here,

but then we killed them. So, you know what I mean? There's just certain areas of policing that need to be more specialized and have people who actually have the skills to help. One of those is domestic violence cases. Like, you know, those police aren't helping people who are victims of domestic violence. So not proportionately, if you look at the numbers. And if you look at the numbers within the force, woo, that 20 to 40 percent jumps out at you. So it's just like there's still going to be people to protect and help you.

But there's going to be care instead of, you know, what we're getting right now now which is just aggressive police who are terrified apparently they're not always terrified we've seen those videos they are killing people on purpose um so yeah google it it's not it's not as crazy as it sounds it doesn't mean that there's just going to be robbers and cops breaking into your home because there's no popo to stop them yeah it's not an anarchist like platform it's organized there are like and i and i also understand like we were talking about a little bit yesterday like everyone is on a pretty steep like most people are on a pretty steep learning curve with this stuff i know i am as well and it's like you know two weeks ago could i speak to police abolition at length no i couldn't couldn't. I knew that

it was something that I liked the concept of, but I couldn't speak to it in detail. And so it's like, yeah, just learn about places that have already put things in place, learn about police reform and how it has not actually served us much and usually just stands to waste a ton of taxpayers money like there's you know yeah we're all learning shit police abolition is not as extreme as it sounds and the current version of police is way way more extreme than we give it credit for and then our mainstream media gives it credit for right and we're seeing it it's weird to see mainstream media lie to you while you're watching a video like on voiceover uh like we all saw in buffalo where the police officers attacked that 75 year old man but i listened to voiceover from the news that was like, he has fallen to the ground. And I was like, hey, we saw him.

We saw him. We saw him. What? Fallen to the ground. Yeah. Like the cops running over people is not something that we should all want to accept. Those people were run over by a car, not attacked by a murderous police officer. That's the thing we're seeing a lot more of that I would think would be sort of an alarming trend

is white supremacist police and just loose white supremacists, unaffiliated white supremacists, driving their cars into crowds of protesters. But it seems like the mainstream media, that kind of goes against the grain of what their typical areas of interest are. It does seem like the Buffalo video was a turning point.

People were like, that doesn't seem right. And also old white people were like, that guy looks like me. And they just pushed him down. What the hay? Yeah. And so it does seem like we're starting to see a deluge of all these police videos and videos of police violence that have just been like, I don't know, they've just not been

showing people. We've just only seen, like, I've seen a lot of them on social media for weeks. But like now I feel like they're breaking over into the mainstream again it's like shocking that we were in a version of reality where that was seen as normal like what we're seeing in these videos but the same time i'm glad that people are starting to see them at least and that the media is starting to to show them although at the same time the media like the local news is no longer covering the marches during daytime tv they're not preempting local programming so you know now that there's not you know looting to show footage of

looting i feel like you know even though the weekend was the biggest protest yet, they didn't cut in. It was all it was only on CNN. It wasn't the local news covering it like during the day. Yeah, it's interesting because we've seen how Donald Trump has really attacked mainstream media for their reporting on his behavior. But the bottom line is, is that truly mainstream media has almost started to serve a purpose of protecting the state and protecting, you know, the norms, the societal norms that we've had that have not been okay. And it's very disheartening and disappointing because the news is what is informing most of our voter population. And it's the reason Twitter is always shocked when someone that we never thought would get elected gets elected.

It's because there's a silent majority who they get their news from these people who are being so deeply irresponsible. And our politicians are afraid of the police. de Blasio got on television and told people that he thought it was fine that the police ran over his citizens. He said it. He said it. In L.A., our own police chief got on the news and blamed us for killing George Floyd.

So there's a real disconnect with these people, and it comes from the money, guys. We can't change policy with people who are afraid of the police the police have been threatening him they've been threatened they doxed his daughter in in new york mayor de bellagio's daughter like eric garcetti out here in la is very afraid of them as well like we cannot change people who are thugs and bullies we have to take their money away it's the only way right and and i would also recommend if uh especially for the bigger cities just look at how the police budget dwarfs any social service that is being given there are some horrifying graphics in la it's over 50 of the city's budget but it but from city to

city it's just it's billions of dollars being invested to, you know, accomplish what exactly? Yeah. Our homeless could be off the street. You could actually walk down the street and not be super depressed to see people without homes and without care. You know, there's so many social programs and services that we're neglecting. And like I've been seeing this a lot everywhere, but people are like, it's scary to think about defunding the police, but we've been defunding healthcare and education, uh,

since the beginning of this country. And those are things that you need. You don't need cops. Do you wake up every day and need cops? No, maybe one day, someday, uh,

as a black, I try not to call them. If I was getting robbed right now, I wouldn't call the police. I'd be like, look, here are my things. Let's just hash this out.

I'd be like, good day, sir. It turns into just a meeting. Yeah, no. Stay up. Yeah, use those cards in the next three hours because I am going to turn them off. Bye-bye now. It's interesting. I mean, even on a local level of news reporting, because i know that most of the stories that we personally come

into contact with are how the gigantic city protests are going and what the reality is of being at a protest that becomes uh people being you know like tear gassed and just driven at the hands of the police versus how the news spins it. But even on a local level, there was a protest in my hometown last week, and my aunt and uncle went to the beginning, and then they left. And later in the night, the Brockton, Massachusetts police force just let loose on people before their curfew had even started there was tear gassing people were hurt and all you saw on the news the next morning and how a lot of my family who were not there interpreted it was well things just got

wild and people started looting when you know if you look at the accounts of people who were there there is a clearly marked and it's mostly on twitter and it's mostly via live stream but there's a clear like in in like small local places it it's the same everywhere and it's all you see is well look at they smashed a dunkin donuts and you're like that is not the point and that neglects so much of what happened it ignores the like the precedent for looting in the first place and it also just ignores everything between a peaceful protest and things arriving at that place like that you don't get there and avoid like the police and I don't know it's it's been bizarre to talk to my family

about you know it's like there's people like people I went to high school with were there. They were tear gas. Like, how do you account for that in the news that you see? And it's just, you know, it goes down to a very local level of like how how stories are covered. And Americans, we've gotten used to everybody lying to us. I mean, our president just just lies like it's gotten to the point where it's not even outrageous anymore. We're like, oh, yeah, he lied about that anyways. And it's weird to see everybody at every level doing it. The police have been lying as much as they possibly can. The mayor in Seattle lied and said that they were no longer going to tear gas their citizens.

But it turned out that they had just run out of tear gas. as soon as they re-upped they started tear gassing people again so i was like you just so you just made this statement as a flex because you were literally out of tear gas no we care about people we're no longer gonna gas y'all because we love y'all seattle be up then the next day they were like oh we got some more okay get it out there we take it back we take it back we take it back it's so and and even and and i think that there's also like i mean we've been seeing so many journalists are getting intentionally harmed by police and it's journalists who are trying to be on the ground and report the story accurately uh that are losing literally losing eyes and like you know go to robert evans

coverage in portland like journalists who are trying to cover the story on the ground accurately are being intentionally targeted like yeah yeah i mean if you want to get a sense of how the police feel about just the general state of affairs right now. Uh, the, the NYPD union leader had a press conference and it was just like, he was so, uh, bitter and resentful and petulant. And it just felt like you were watching a, a child have a, have a meltdown. But I, I think that's a very, you know, police are very defensive, uh, and,

you know, very good at closing lines around, uh, one another. And I think that's, yeah, you're, you're,

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as sort of a turning point in the way the media was just like, well, that's no way, no how. And Trump has come out and put himself firmly on the side of the cops in that situation. He's claiming that the old guy was an agitator for Antifa is what his statement was. Jamie, you were pointing out there are like these memes of of like this is the leader of antifa and like it being a squirrel or something like that like yeah do we think trump saw that do we think trump saw one of those and was like he was i mean seriously who knows i mean didn't he am i like he like retweeted something about insecure the other night there's

no way to predict what he sees on the internet and what he does not see on the internet what did he tweet about insecure there was if trump is watching insecure on hbo i he's i i saw it like molly is not a good friend make molly great again let me find it but all that to say okay yeah it was on franklin leonard's feed he retweeted uh like a live tweet from this week's episode of insecure like who can say i'll i'll source the tweet and but it this happened on sunday night you know now now he's saying that the old man that we saw assaulted is the is a member of antifa like an antifa provocateur which is just again playing into like the joke of that meme is like the whole point of antifa is there's not a leader like it's you know right but a lot of

people don't know that i guess i don't know but wait the fact that antifa is now uh considered a terrorist organization as well as black identity extremists but not the kkk because you know They're chill. They're super chill. Some very good people. I just put in the chat, I got all my lingerie from Antifa Provocateur. Antifa Provocateur, yes. Someone please make that store. Yes, I want to see that storefront but uh it it does seem like um just kind of checking in with where he is uh you know we're months out from the 2020 presidential election uh in addition to that he's just been kind of in this uh spiral like last friday's job report uh which

may be erroneous but it was uh at least more positive than people were expecting he claimed it was a great day for george floyd um and that he's probably smiling down on the great jobs report i don't know he's just behaving like a guy guy who really needs a win and is acting erratically. And the more desperate he gets, the more erratically he behaves. It's totally understandable that politicians will be out here like, what I saw with George Floyd, my heart, all of our hearts, all that bullshit stump rhetoric that they have. But it's weird to just be like, George Floyd's looking down at our unemployment numbers and he's smiling.

Like, what? How are you adding those two together? Oh, boy. George Floyd loves what we're doing with the COVID testing centers. He definitely does. What? That's not how you use this. You should use it, but that's definitely, this is not the method.

I mean, like a lot of bullies, I don't think he's comfortable when he's, you know, down, when he doesn't have the momentum and doesn't have a screen, a chanting crowd at his back. I also wonder, like, I think the 2016 campaign really empowered a lot of racist white people to stand up and voice their opinions more loudly. And I think George Floyd's murder and, you know,

the subsequent protests and the subsequent more police violence might be empowering not racist people to be louder and more chest out about what they believe, hoping that that's what we're seeing. I would attest to that. I do think that I've seen a lot of people who in the past really only seem to like, you know, maybe do some kind of performative gesture or, you know, black or whatever, kind of come out and be more vocal online and to their own followings and to their own fans, like people who see that like, if you're looking away, you're supportive. And that's just what it is. Like, you can't say I don't like politics when politics are killing black people. If you don't vote, you're killing black people. If you look away, you're killing black people. And if you do nothing, you're killing black people. And if you don't talk to any of your white friends about this stuff, you're killing black people.

Stop DMing your black friends like like i'm so sorry about racism girl anyways this is what i'm doing to work on it why don't you talk to your white friends about that apologize to them about racism and y'all work together because we tired like we're going to continue to work but i can't also do the emotional labor of well-meaning white people like that's unfair to ask me to do all of that and certainly that's happening a lot right now. But I'm also seeing white people talking to other white people. And also being like, hey, don't hit up your black friends about this. Hit us up. We just learned some stuff.

Like I said on Twitter, white people, you don't hit your black friends up when you want to make focaccia bread for recipes. You Google it. So Google how to fix racism. Don't talk to me. So Google had to fix racism. Don't talk to me. Dwayne Perkins had a great tweet about that yesterday. He said, yo, you wouldn't believe what just happened to me.

I was scrolling through Twitter and saw a tweet referring to something I didn't know. And instead of replying, explain this to me, I just Googled it. And now I know what it is. Like, fuck, what a rush. You're like, yeah. That's crazy. Just bing it and have conversations people who uh say their opinion on a podcast that they haven't listened to yet and they accuse you of not having made the point that they have to make about the subject are uh also a favorite of mine. Look, I haven't listened to this yet, but I have thoughts.

Yeah. Like, well, I think you guys are missing this. It's like, no, that's I think the first thing we talked about. One of the first things. Anyways. I mean, people just want to flex. But I hope that this is the last thing I want to say about this is I hope that people start getting more comfortable with being wrong and with being uninformed and then not being comfortable uninformed, but then seeking out knowledge. Because I feel like our culture has just touted being correct and dunking on people.

That's a very big Twitter culture as well. And it makes us feel bad when we've been doing things, quote unquote, the wrong way. But I think it should make us feel excited that we're getting new information and that we're making changes. And I think that's the way to receive this. You know, if anybody calls you out about something, it's I've never been more. People don't understand how defensiveness comes off. No one ever respects you more for being defensive. I have never had a hard-on more for a human being

than when i see them go oh i see what you're saying and i didn't have these tools and now i'm studying these things and i'm yeah i can definitely work on this and change this versus coming out and being like look we never shot any black people ourselves yeah where's this onslaught coming from yeah and even if you do come out that way in the first place there's still you can still change even if you're defensive at first you can still be like okay you're right i fucked up that was my original uh knee-jerk reaction but you sound like dolls kill jack i fucked up we were too slow we should have been quicker. We should have been faster plus louder.

The plus is crucial because it's on branding. You know that there was a design note that went out about the plus. Faster plus louder equals should have been us. Like. Real quick. have been us like real quick we are seeing a covid bounce back in states that opened and you know that doesn't seem to be stopping states from further opening like we talked about uh people you know they're being lines outside of bars. California is opening movie theaters on June 12th, even though there are no movies to see unless...

Tenet! I'm just going to go sit in there. Just for the air conditioning. I wonder, I mean, I am very curious if people will, like, will people go to a movie theater? Mov movies yeah that's that's a great question because i miss movies movie theaters have taken such a hit from just like i remember after the movie theater shooting i was like i don't know if i can really be going in here no more and now covid it's like a dark room sometimes it's moist you don't know what you are sitting on

like well you don't know what you're sitting on the two things that they say like they that seem to be things that they've learned about how it spreads that i didn't know when we were first like thinking and talking about this is being indoors seems to be worse than being outdoors because the air is stale and everyone's breathing the same air. And being around people for a long period of time as opposed to just passing

them on the street is a significant factor. And movie theaters have both of those things. We talked about that a bit ago because I think it was Miles who said like our job is the most high risk job for spreading COVID because we just sit in a room for an hour and a half

and talk close to each other. No, we'll never see each other again in person. That's never happening. I've accepted it. I've accepted it. You'll always have to wait for my lagging audio, unfortunately. Yeah, but Jack, that's a great point. Sitting in a movie is probably just like COVID incubator.

Two hours of breathing with the same people in the dark. And depending on if it's a big theater or not, not every theater is large. big theater or not those not every theater is large yeah so yeah the detailed contact tracing they've done is definitely worth looking at like they did a very detailed case study of a a restaurant where it was spread and it had to do with like the people who were on the side that the air conditioner was blowing towards were the ones who got it um and you know they were there for a couple hours and it just got spread to that entire side of the restaurant but like another side was not did not get sick um there was they've they've done it on a plane that they did contact

tracing on a plane where like certain people in certain seats specifically got it so it's it's worth looking at those yeah it was it was mainly the people around the the patient zero the spreader but it's the closer you are to the uh i i think and then there are like random people who i'm guessing like got up to go to the bathroom or something and touched the wrong thing. But that stuff is... Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, North Carolina,

more people were hospitalized with COVID-19 on Monday than any other day during the pandemic. Vermont saw a spike in infections, and worryingly for me and children getting infected uh which has always been i think a lot of parents are just like really nervously watching uh that because that's something i've heard from the start is a possibility of like

the disease the virus mutating to being more something that targets children. Cause it's really, it's really like almost random. Like I think I think it's easy to be like, well, the older people are the ones who get targeted because they're, you know, older and have more health problems.

But like the 1918 flu, like killed people our age and only people our age. It just took out young adults for some reason. There is just random aspects of the disease that will cause it to change direction in really scary ways. So yeah, I don't know. And then very worrying for people who are protesting is that the National Guard that was deployed to the protests

have tested positive who were at the protests in Washington, D.C. And not to mention that the use of tear gas and the use of a respiratory... Like, that you can't... It is just shocking, like, that you can't, it is just shocking, like, how the police force has managed to exacerbate everything wrong in the past. And they don't get that this is their fault. They don't get that this is totally their fault.

They could have arrested thousands of people when we really just needed seven people. We needed the Breonna Taylor's three killers who are still walking free and we needed all of George Floyd's. And they were like, no, we'll arrest thousands of people and expose everybody to COVID so that we can protect seven people.

Yep. The Louisville Police Department needs to be the next one. The Louisville City Council, however it works, that needs to go. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, and the only other thing, I mean, I would just say, at this time, unless you're going to a protest

and lending yourself to a life and death matter, try to stick to the rules that we were given before because it's not as under control as i think people are assuming or if you gotta go if you just gotta go get some food and be out wear a damn mask yes and don't stay there for hours at a time because all you're doing is letting yourself cook. Like you're just upping the chance that you're going to get it. I had a homegirl who had a commercial audition, or not audition, but a commercial that they were shooting for Apple. And they shot during COVID and had like a 10- person skeleton crew and they rented a house at Airbnb.

And why did one of the people on the crew have Corona? Wow. No. So then exposed all these people. Then they all had to go into incubation. So it's like, guys, if you're going to cheat, cheat smart. At least I'll get tests before you do something that the government told you not to yeah i mean that that's the it's like if you are going out regularly and you are in

an area where testing is accessible like it's a pain in the ass the lines suck the government's making it harder for you to get tested than it should but if you can't if you have access to testing just go like just it i don't know i have i haven't received even from like i haven't received any pushback for being like hey i need to just like not be here for two hours today because i have to go sit in a fucking line at dodger stadium until i want to melt into a puddle but it's like it's worth it because then you know like now i know when i go out protesting that I'm not putting people at risk. If you can get tested, just do it. Jaquise also tipped me off to the fact that they're doing free testing

at a lot of CVSs too. If your city is being a pain in the ass about it, there are other options out there. The only other thing is that the i didn't realize how much the markets had continued to rebound since the initial like sharp downturn but on monday the markets went up so much that they're in the positive for the year 2020 um which seems i don't know that that can't be a good thing when the markets just don't reflect anything about reality in any way so i don't know like the the fact that we're where we are and the markets haven't even like registered the how fucked things are and that's probably

coming is is also something to just i think that i'm just keeping in the back of my mind yeah because i mean property damage and financial loss is the only thing that the majority of this country understand or respond to um i've never seen people more emotional about a target. You would think Target was their dad. Now we just beat they sweet old daddy to a pulp. So it's definitely disturbing when we see that. It's not like I want financial ruin for this country, but I just want incentive for people to be humane.

And unfortunately, that's not humanity. That's money and capitalism because that's all people care about the large majority of this country we've been indoctrinated and conditioned to think that we are all just a cog in the wheel and a number um which is sad yeah so yeah that's worrisome for sure they're like well the billionaires are doing great better than ever before right well lacy it has been such a pleasure having you back on the daily zeitgeist where can people uh find you and follow you uh as always guys you can find me at diva l-a-c-i diva lacy on all platforms i have a podcast called scam goddess if you want to to that, it's on all platforms as well.

And a tweet that I've been enjoying, which is completely off of all of these subjects. But hit me up if you want to turn $175 into $2,500. It's not a scam. We selling crack wow like i said that truly is not a scam uh and that comes from cam call uh co lll uh cam exotic shout out to you because that was hilarious that's wild ride uh jamie where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar.

I wanted to say I couldn't remember the name of the teacher funding platform yesterday, and a listener reminded me it's called Donors Choose. There's more urgent places to donate but that's where teachers have been um fundraising for their own classrooms because they're not uh funded well enough so that's the website uh tweet that i will do is from at hannah underscore unlost and it says i joined twitter because of one direction and now i want to defund and abolish the police this is great what a ride yeah what a ride i would be interested in just following

following their tweets like over the course of years as that evolution happened the hill tweeted uh press secretary kaylee mcnainy uh a quote from her mitt romney can say three words outside on pennsylvania avenue but i would note this that president trump won eight percent of the black vote maya harris tweeted she knows it's out of 100, right? And then Lauren Elizabeth tweeted, a clitoris has 8,000 nerve endings and it's still not as sensitive as a man with a sports avi, 17 followers,

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