The Daily Zeitgeist - The Flour Bomb Hoax, Passion Of The Christ 2: Cruise Control 01.11.23

Episode Date: January 11, 2023

In episode 1399, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, speaker, social justice educator and host of Black Fat Femme, Dr. Jon Paul Higgins, to discuss… White Guys Are Doing Great! Biden Also Collected Classified Documents It Seems, Kim Kardashian’s Flour Bombing Was a Hoax, Mel Gibson Is Reportedly Making Passion Of The Christ II: Cruise Control and more! The Sports Scandal Almost Nobody Is Talking About TRUMP ALLY AND SEXUAL HARASSMENT DISMISSER MATT SCHLAPP ACCUSED OF GROPING GOP STAFFER’S CROTCH Biden Also Collected Classified Documents It Seems Biden and his White House legal team don’t know exactly what’s in classified documents found in private office, sources say There's a key difference between the classified documents found at a former Biden office and the ones Trump kept at Mar-a-Lago, national security expert says Kim Kardashian’s Flour Bombing Was a Hoax Mel Gibson Is Reportedly Making Passion Of The Christ II: Cruise Control Mel Gibson Had To Be Removed As Grand Marshal Of A Mardi Gras Parade After Someone Mistakenly Thought That Was A Good Idea 'The Resurrection:' Hollywood Producer Aims for God's Sequel to 'The Passion' The Greatest Story Never Told LISTEN: What You Owe by The BreathSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 270, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily's iGeist! A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness we'll say hello like joe namath or yeah yeah broadway joe yeah when he said i want to kiss you thank you anyways that's how i'm feeling i want to kiss you i could care less about the team struggling struggling right now yeah i just want to kiss you i just want to kiss you it's wednesday january 11 2023 the day on which when we look at the calendar we say oh 111 111 we'll make a wish 111 111 yeah you know what let's

surprise there's nothing like palindrome like adjacent with any of these days it's heritage treasures day which sounds like like what the what the British Museum of History would talk about the things they've stolen. Like Heritage Treasures Day from other places we've stolen. But it's about, I don't know, they say it's about celebrating your own heritage or something like that. Look at old photographs. Volunteer at an excavation dig. Because, you know, those are constantly popping up everywhere. It's also National Human Trafficking Awareness Day.

That's a worthwhile cause. National Milk Day. National Arkansas Day. And actually, a very appropriate day, National Step in a Puddle and Splash Day. For those of us in California, oh, man, shouts and prayers and all that to the people in northern and central California because I know just above us, it's getting really bad.

Yeah. So I hope everybody's staying safe. Even Ellen, did you see her? She was panicked. She was like, God is mad at us. All of us, not just me. There was this video where she, like, I guess, apparently she has, like, a creek bordering her property.

So, like, all this water was, like, flowing through, and she's doing a selfie. She's like, it's really bad right now. And I immediately went, like, let me figure out what this property looks like all this water was like flowing through and she's doing a selfie just like it's really bad right now and i immediately went like let me figure out what this property looks like really quick because it's not like you're doing some like live on the street reporting and she has this like estate there that i'm like oh yeah okay cool all right yeah all right the whole place with the oprah and the ellen and the prince harry estates all they had to evacuate. All right. They're all right.

Yeah, because, I mean, five years ago, right, there was that terrible, like, rock slide that ended up killing, like, over 20 people. Yeah, man. And there's some terrible rock slides happening now. You know it's bad when a rainstorm where you live is on the front page of the New York Times. Yeah, right. Well, because, yeah, the earth has been so dried up just like a little bit of moisture can set off all kinds of stuff and this little drainage pipe that i have

that's always clogged up got it unclogged and now there's just water coming up through it as if come on me like nah you're doing the opposite yeah we're doing the opposite here. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Young Chapo, a.k.a. El Chapito, a.k.a. El Chapo off the old block. That is in reference to the fact that ever since the arrest of El Chapo's youngest son, people have been pointing out that they think we look alike, which I appreciate.

Oh, shit! He's, like, pretty handsome. You could get it. He's young. Francesca Fiorentini raised it to the level of conspiracy. She said, why does Jack O'Brien look like El Chapo's son, and why have we never seen them at the same place at the same time?

Wow. Hannah Montana over here. Okay. I'm actually not allowed to comment on that. Okay. You were in Sinaloa recently, i was not no i don't know what you're talking about anyways i'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host mr miles gray miles gray aka soon i'm gonna be a big poppa throw my hands in the air i am real scared soon i'm gonna be a big poppa got a bag to grab in case Her majesty water breaks Why?

Cause I think her majesty might Have started having the baby Maybe Shout out to Christy Yamaguchi Man at Wapol House For that wonderful Christopher Wallace inspired AKA Yeah, yeah

I am nervous though He knows that Cause he DM'd me And I was like bro I'm fucking tripping over here So thank you for Putting that into lyrics Let us express it through song Absolutely I am nervous, though. He knows that because he DM'd me and I was like, bro, I'm fucking tripping over here. So thank you for putting that into lyrics. Let us express it through song. Absolutely.

Yeah, it's a tough one because it's like, yeah, you should be nervous. It's crazy. It's a crazy event. And it can happen anytime. Like, you can't. Yeah. It's like one of the most, you know, like I got married last year. At least, you know, that's a day.

You're like, I got to pull up on this day correctly. Yeah. Right now, I'm like huh huh everything okay i don't know if i said this on the air i think it was i was saying this off mic to becca i was with her majesty she had a water bottle and she dropped the bottle and the bottle cap broke off like shattered like the plastic cap shattered off and she goes oh no my water broke what she said that in the other room. I said, what? She's been planning that shit. No, she was like, my bad. I did not mean to say it like that at all. The cap broke off the water.

So that's kind of on pins and needles, but exciting. Yeah. All right. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant writer, speaker, social justice educator who's written written for Ebony Complex, Out the Root, and appeared on NBC News, BuzzFeed, Vox, many others. They're also the host of the amazing podcast, BFF, Black Fat Femme. Please welcome Dr. John Paul Higgins!

Dr. John! Hello, salutations. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming back. I'm always excited. It's good seeing you both online and off I know we got to see each other I know, holiday party

It's been a while Yeah, it was fun A white elephant gift exchange Yo, wait I don't know if I should be saying this I remember it was getting a little tense This year? At the white elephant

John got this Starbucks coffee And someone was like like you don't want that huh they're like it's okay you can just you can just you can just give it away it was like polite tenseness yeah it was a polite tenseness around me winning a phone um basically it was like a phone zapper for like bacteria or whatever oh yeah that's my thing was i just don't know where i and that's basically what i said i was just thinking okay here we go another electronic product that i have to bring home that i have no idea where i'm going to put right and so they were like oh you just go ahead and take the starbucks when you could trade it and i was like okay bet and so yeah it wasn't that i was mad about it it was just i know

but it was more than on the other side being like you don't like it huh like it was more like that kind of no no and i was like that's all good i was like i'm fine i just don't know where i'm gonna put it because it is useful but no it was all good but i'm glad that i get to see you all and you know on the mic again in 2023 and i had the goat gifts too. She spot on because I got the Mariah Carey on vinyl Christmas album and then Jack got the Wordle board game. Yeah, exactly. Laser guided focus. She's

honestly one of the best gift gifts I would say. Truly. In the world. And also for my little ones. She always hooks it up and gets them their favorite toy every Christmas. Truly amazing. Shout out to the producer, Ana Hosnia.

That's the kind of, like, family friend you want to be. Like, that's what I think when I have friends with gifts. Like, you want them to be the one that thinks you always bring the lit shit. Because I remember as a kid, those are the adults I was always like, so-and-so's coming over? Yes. They're either going to bring ice cream ice cream or like stickers or some shit and that's it's such a low bar to like be like i'm gonna i'm gonna lay my foundation in your memory young

child i tell people you want to be friends with people like me because i am queer and i have disposable income so that means when i'm really good friends with you that means i'm going to spoil your child to death my i'm seeing one of my friend's kids tonight and i know he's going to be excited because whenever we see him he knows that that means he's getting dessert and treats and whatever he wants yeah yeah i'm really big on that that notion of like spoil other people's kids and then give them back yeah exactly exactly yeah all right well we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to check in with a couple of white guys who are doing great. Yeah. Nothing to see here.

Matt Schlapp and the UFC guy. Dana White. Dana White. Yeah. A lot of soft-shoeing going on around. Yeah. The media is just treating it. Dana's going through a tough time. He feels bad. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the number one story on the right, which is that Biden also had some classified documents.

Oh, God. How many? 700? I think like a handful. I think they said less than 10 or something like that. There's some shadiness to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. There's a shady element.

We have a conspiracy to report on from back in 2012. Kim Kardashian was flower bombed. Did either of you remember this? Yes, I do. I don't know where I was, what was going on with me. You had better shit to do. Apparently. I was, what was going on with me. You had better shit to do. Apparently.

To be online. Yeah. I was just way too online on the celebrity. This was like peak, what, Perez Hilton almost? Yeah. Yeah, yes. Or did Perez start falling off maybe a little bit before that? Anyway, but like in the era of like celebrity gossip websites.

It was a conspiracy. It was a PR stunt that she was in on. So we're going to talk about that and also know about it like that they figured it out it's also the the clearest example of a brainstorm where you can like hear the cocaine being snorted that i've seen in a while like i feel like this is where all that energy for from 80s movies went was in into the world it's called It's called conflict marketing, man. Right, exactly. So we'll talk about that. We might get to the new Passion of the Christ movie, all that, plenty more. But first, Dr. John, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Yeah, so I want to say up front that I am amongst all of the many things that I do. I am a dreaming TV writer slash screenwriter. I have written a film. I have written a lot of TV pilots. That's my subtle way of saying somebody, if you're listening, please rep me.

I went and saw Megan this weekend. M3? Yeah. Okay. Is it M3 again? That's the only way I can say it. Yeah, okay. I think it is Megan.

We went and seen it. I've been doing the dance all weekend. But the thing for me is seeing how much money went into making the film and then how much money actually has been made from the film there it got my wheels spinning and i was like how does that split actually work so wanting to just kind of go in and better understand it because there's all this talk about money around the film for me i was just i spent a little bit of time this last couple of days kind of googling how someone actually makes money when a film like that does really big. And then thinking to myself, like,

what would I need to know? Or what should I be thinking about if I decide to sell something? Yeah. In terms of like a film. So that was what I have been searching, had been searching. And then ultimately spending a lot of time just reading up who's been thinking what about the film Megan. So,

right. I would say it's ultimately pretty fucked up like the when i i've had this experience where you hear like the director gets a lot of the credit for the movie and the actors are like the main people that we associated with it and that's not the case i'm like in the world of plays like the tony's the the big award is like for the playwright you know writer yeah in the academy awards like the the big award is like for the playwright you know but in the Academy Awards like the original screenplay is always like I think the most interesting group of movies or usually among the most interesting group of movies and it's not one of the main awards that people pay attention to and then when you like go back and read scripts of movies, like classic movies, it's like, oh, that shit's all there on the page.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. They did that. But that's not how the incentive structure is set up. No. And I mean, also, once you do a deal, right? Like, if you got a manager, you got a lawyer, you got an agent, that's 25% right there.

Yep. Because your manager and your agent get 10, your lawyer get get five so then you got to really negotiate your fee and then after the fee what what other fucking things can you get like can you get a producer credit on it can you get a whatever like what are the credits that you're getting what are the back end points you're going to negotiate are you going to have like is it because the huge thing too is what a lot of people like oh this money made so much money you got to go like, is it? Cause the huge thing too, is what a lot of people like, Oh, this money made so much money. You got to go. Well,

first the studio has to get recoup all their marketing money. Right. That's the big thing that ends up shrinking the pie. Cause they're like, well, we have to spend fucking 13 million to get people to get in here. So, you know,

do a little, usually at least double the production budget. Yeah. The budget that gets reported is the production budget, but then, yeah, they at least double it for the if it's a movie that exists and they're not just dumping in theaters.

Just trying to be like Robert De Niro, you know? Was it Bill Murray who has no reps? Yeah. That's always so funny. That's insane to me. I mean, that's a different time. And that's how you end up making Garfield because the name of one of the directors is Cohen. And you think it's I think it was either Joel or Ethan Cohen. And he was like, oh, the Cohen brothers are making a Garfield movie and just went and starred in a Garfield movie by accident. So there go is that true that's true story yeah he admitted that he thought it was the what yeah please bet all your opportunities oh my gosh uh what is something you think is overrated okay so i'm ready i already know i i get canceled and get in trouble for

everything anyway i'm gonna say i think chick-fil-a is overrated and the reason why i say chick-fil-a is because one they're building so where I live I have one on one side of me and they're building another one on the other side of me and one that is near me is near a Best Buy and I can never get into the Best Buy when I need to get into it it's like I have to go all the way around the corner because yeah because of the line the way the line is set up into the chick-fil-a it blocks both of the entrances into the best buy and i just recently probably telling you all way too much i had to buy a dehumidifier for my apartment and i was so annoyed and i just was like i don't get it like it's for me it's not even so given they are

very homophobic very much in this notion of like oh oh, you know, we don't like the gays. OK, I get that. But for me, it's not even that. It's like the food is not good. Like I've eaten there one time in my life and it was the most bland and the most like it just I don't get it. I just don't get the draw. And same thing with In-N-Out. Like I know what I know people go up for In-N-Out, especially people who don't get the draw and the same thing with in and out like i know what i know people go up

for in and out especially people who don't live here but i feel like chick-fil-a and in and out are very much a staple of southern california and i don't understand why i just mean chick-fil-a is a new i mean because we didn't get chick-fil-a in california until like maybe 10 years ago i'd say yeah but now california is reacting to it like it is. Yeah. Like it is the greatest thing ever. Same with Raising Cane's. It's not the greatest. It's just a chicken sandwich. Really.

It's just what you need is like, there's just, because I think the difference is there's the chicken sandwiches at the fast food places, like the McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's or whatever. And those just don't hit as well as the places that they're like, we do chicken. And if you like chicken, then it makes sense. But I haven't had chick-fil-a and maybe like since the pandemic began and and i and i don't live near one so i've like slowly just like forgotten about it uh and plus i just like i like popeyes because i like

the red beans and rice popeyes is better yeah the chicken sandwich was the only thing I would get at any of these places is by far better at Popeye's. I am the victim of some like ingenious, shrewd, predatory Chick-fil-A marketing because when I was in high school, they sold Chick-fil-A in our high school cafeteria. Oh, shit. Like that is when you were at your hungriest as a human is like yeah yeah like as a teenager coming in there and you know i have my bag lunch and then people are coming away with those like little nuggets and the chicken sandwiches and like i can't not associate that like i don't go to chick-fil-a but in my mind chick-fil-a like that that is both smart marketing and should be illegal if it's not already right get them while they're

young basically get them while they're young yeah we had a taco bell in our uh in our middle california oh you did i don't california there were some schools but they would just they would bring taco bell in for the school lunch, basically. You could only get the bean burrito. Yeah. Or wiener schnitzel once or two. Wow, wiener schnitzel. I can't stand that shit.

Wiener schnitzel? Yeah. Those hot dogs taste like, I don't even know what. They're like, they just aren't, they're not right. Kind of gross. Yeah. I would say they've kind of gotten gross. I eat wiener schnitzel when you're like, you know know you're like in a rush and you're just kind of like i just

need something to eat and what's the nearest closest we have a wiener schnitzel next to the freeway where i live and so i usually just zip through there and then they also sell mountain dew you i've been on here and i've talked to you about my love for mountain dew so they sell but i know for a fact that they have Mountain Dew and that's usually the one reason why I go there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is something you think is underrated?

So I'm going to make a very big statement and then I'm going to make a smaller statement under it because they connect doing stuff alone. And what I mean by that is, is I went and saw,

so my partner, he wasn't a fan of Black Panther. And so when I told him I want to go see wakanda forever he was like meh and i just was like okay i will see about myself and so i recently got that amc plus pass where you can go see all the movies and when i tell you going to the movies by yourself is nice like i almost he's probably he'll never listen to this he'll he'll probably hear me playing it but he'll never listen to it well He'll probably hear me playing it, but he'll never listen to it.

Well, I wanted to go see Megan by myself, but he came along with me. And when we were done, I was like, I'm kind of glad that he came. But part of me was like, damn, this movie would have probably been really nice if I was by myself. So just learning like really how to enjoy my own company. But I really feel like going to the movies by yourself is that girl. Like it's oh yeah the thing to do it's my it's my number one activity if i have never done any free time for some reason you've never done it so i've eaten by myself i'll go to it's weird i'll go i'll have a

meal by myself yeah but i think because i'm an only child i think i grew up with going to a movie as like a social thing I would do. But at the same time, I love being about nobody likes to chill with themselves more than me. But now that I hear this all the time and I'm like, shit, yeah, eventually I'll get to that. But I I have never done it. I don't like I can't sit there and watch a movie with somebody and be like, don't care if they like it or not like that's all like i'm so focused on that that the oh you're like me showing somebody planet earth exactly exactly yeah there's just like so much so going to the movie by myself is like really it for me because it's the only time i can like

fully appreciate a movie and it might have something to do with going to see something about Mary with my mom when I was a kid and her turning to me and saying, what's in her hair? Oh no. At that scene. Maybe that spoiled it. Jack, you saw that movie with your mother? Yeah.

That shit came out in like 98? So what, you were 18 or something? I love this. You're 18. Let's go see something about Mary. What a choice for a thing. I love that. I love that.

Yeah. What? And she was asking you like out of the innocence of her heart? She didn't know. And then when she figured it out, she laughed really hard. Oh, shit. I was like, mom, I don't know how to. I think she knew what that was. I know. She laughed really hard. What about the zipper scene? I think she knew what that was. I know, but how was that?

Watching that kind of raucous ogre comedy with someone's testicles in the zippers and you're sitting next to your mother. It was not great. I just think for me, the bigger part for me is

I hate... I think the older I get, the more I'm learning that I don't like to share. And it's like having to make decisions around how much butter to put the popcorn, what drink to share with somebody. It's like, I just don't want to do that. Let me just go by myself so I can enjoy the full movie experience without having to argue with you over. And it's not even my partner it's just people in general oh we should go see this movie together no we shouldn't i'm gonna go see it by myself because i don't want to have to deal with that did y'all see the the talk the tiktok video of that guy in the movie theater in texas who was buttering that popcorn oh if you

like if you care about how popcorn is buttered Hold on let me play this video for you Look at my man's here He's about to Look he's flipping Look butter boom get another scoop on there Flip it twirl it get another layer of butter Look at it he got the tech He got the techers and everything

He has the best technique He is the popcorn guy He's also making a mess But he is He's also making a mess but he's also making a mess yeah just off screen is around his ankles is a three foot high pile of popcorn that's a lot of popcorn that's on the ground girl but what i will say is so it's funny because i had retweeted that video and i was like, that reminds me of when I worked at Starbucks and people would come in with all these weird requests for their drinks about like how much frappuccino

to put in and how much was liquid versus how much was like actually blended. And someone was saying that when they worked at AMC, they like long time ago back in AMC, people would come in and specifically be like, I want 47% butter. And then I want you to put another scoop in. And then I want you to hit with another 27% of butter. And then I want you to put another scoop in, and then I want you to hit with another 27% of butter, and then I want you to put another scoop in, and then do three packets of salt. Like, people are that exact. People are weird. So that's why they put that shit on the outside for you to do. Yeah, they're like, do it yourself.

Get somebody else to do it. Get somebody else to do it. You can always take one little hack. You just say, all right, I'll buy the tickets. And then if it's assigned seating, you put the three people you're with one place and then you put yourself all the way across. You're like, I don't know. It said that it was crowded or something. I guess everybody just canceled.

And our seats got moved. I guess a bunch of no-shows then. Well, their seats are still open in case they come. I don't want to stay back there. Oh, man. All right, let's take a quick, we'll link off to the popcorn guy in the footnotes. So you can see, but he's basically taking the joy and. He's spitting the hell out of that popcorn.

Yeah, he's got a bucket that he's spinning on his finger, then filling it up with a scoop, then putting like a circle of butter then tossing it like the twirl though he's using centrifugal force to distribute the butter topping more i look at that i'm like that's fucking respect because sometimes you go to a place you're like hey man i like a lot of fucking like look me in my eye man yeah i like a lot of butter man that's me i'm cholesteroled up yeah i'm like look in the eye. I'm not saying just butter. I'm not saying butter that shit. And he looks like a guy who understood the assignment.

Other people you see, they're like, okay. They do like halfway, put a little on, put the other half on, boom. They're like, okay, get the fuck out. And I'm not saying you got to put more effort into it. I'm just saying there's levels to how people butter it. And that's God tier. Yeah. Takes his job very seriously. Yes, absolutely. All right. He deserves an Oscar. just saying there's levels to how people butter it and that's that's god dear yeah yeah takes his

job very seriously yes absolutely all right he deserves an oscar that's the category in the academy awards and a living wage fuck yes even that maybe i don't know right if you're serving popcorn like that you i think look anybody with a living wage. Somebody get this man some more money. Or like start a fucking, you could start seminars, man. Right. Like they have flair bartenders and like Vegas bars. Like why don't you have like flair popcorn people? Yeah.

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Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And there's been a couple incidents over the past couple weeks. One we talked about on here, one I had totally missed. But Miles, you made the good point that the way these stories are being written is leave something to be desired a tremendous amount of grace is being afforded to these people who are doing object objectively fucked up things so we talked about matt schlapp the founder of cpac he was credibly accused of sexually assaulting a male campaign worker during

the midterms but when you look at the headlines journalists are just using the term groped like oh he's accused of groping someone oh he groped a guy rather than like actually like look if you're being groped and you don't want some motherfucker groping you you are being assaulted yeah so why are we why are we mincing words here? In one of the interviews that the accuser gave, he used the phrase, quote, pummeled at length to describe this physical interaction. Yeah. Like, this wasn't just like, so it's a lot of excuse, like a lot of excusing language. And I just don't know how we can advance any kind of discussion about like rape culture in our society when we can't even call out assault as assault without some editor getting all fucking torn up about using like accurate descriptions in their reporting like it just does everyone a tremendous disservice and it allows things like oh he you know like people in their minds probably read grope and it hits differently than hearing

sexually assaulted yeah and anyway that's so that's, so that was, again, when I was like, oh, that's interesting because most of the headlines say grope. A few say actually use the term, like are actually using the correct terms, but a lot are just going this quote unquote, like using quotes and stuff. It's very dismissive.

It doesn't even say unwanted in the headline. Like it just says accused of groping GOP staffers, which is an important distinction. Yeah, but crouch which it's a it's an important distinction yeah but again that's one that's afforded to powerful uh white men in this country especially one who's so connected and in conservative circles and then there's dana white who is the head of the ufc okay the biggest fucking mma organization in the world. Over New Year's, he was caught on camera in a violent altercation with his wife at a club in Cabo, where she's

in his face, she shoved him, she slaps him, then he comes right back, and he slapped her twice in the face on fucking camera. Okay? You've been caught literally in 4K with all this shit going on, and guess what? Crickets. Fucking nothingickets fucking nothing like jack to your point

he said i didn't even i don't even i don't even hear about this yeah i haven't heard anything about yeah you know why espn who's one of the ufc's main partners along with endeavor they're both like mum on the topic like and there there were a few uh tweets that you saw from people who worked at espn they're like you know we've kind of been instructed to not have any uh i guess incendiary commentary regarding this story and you're like oh shit okay dana white came out he said oh you know i crossed a line it was a terrible excuse a terrible mistake there's no excuse this is the first time this has happened which i that's that could be debated um and, and meanwhile, Stephen A. Smith took time out on a show just to like, excuse the behavior. He was even like, I just wish the best

for him and his family. You know, like my moral barometer, Stephen A. Smith. I know he says he knows how wrong he was to do this. He knows that we're on this. He knew ahead of time because I reached out to him to let him know I would be talking about it this morning. OK, that's a nice courtesy. He knows that he crossed a line that he has never crossed before, that he swears he will never cross again. So you're doing all this PR work for this person. Like, why? White himself has said, like, for example, Ray Rice, who was an NFL running back who, like, you know, violently attacked his then fiance.

He was done when that video came out. And it's funny. At the time, Dana White said, oh, his career is over. He's like, I said, the second you put your hands on a woman, you're done. But that hasn't that hasn't also stopped him from signing people that fight in the UFC that have DV allegations against them. And, you know, you look at all this i mean you the full the full weight of sports media will come down on people like you know if they're black especially yeah we've seen it and especially when it's objectively inexcusable behavior

it should be called out because that's how we move forward but when you start when you start being inconsistent with it you don't have the same energy because the last name is literally white. We now now you're fucking up on so many levels. I mean, fucking Will Smith was jettisoned from the earth when he slapped Chris Rock after he made a joke about his wife. And so we were like, oh, my God, I can't imagine. Oh, the stage. She's angry. Black.

All this nonsense. Like and I get that. No one wants to see that. That's whatever. That's that's their own bullshit that they're dealing with in a very messy public setting. But again, how are we going to protect women or take domestic violence seriously if the collective response of the media is going to be just a shoulder shrug? Yeah. Or even worse, there have been takes from other athletes or other people around Dana White who are saying, oh, well, she hit him first. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So it's all good. Nothing to see here. from other athletes or other people around Dana White who are saying, oh, well, she hit him first.

Yeah. So it's all good. Nothing to see here. I was actually wrong. I did see a headline about this, but this was the headline on ESPN. Power slap league run by UFC's Dana White has TV debut delayed and then buried down in the article is the fact that it was the result of him admitting to a physical altercation with his wife. Do you remember the Power Slap League? Yeah. It's this horrific idea where people just stand toe to toe and are not allowed to guard as they just get slapped as hard as the person can. can and people like the the day that we talked about it it was coming up like the premiere of dana white's power slap league was coming up in a couple weeks and someone had just died in poland from that and that's not what stopped it it was right yeah just the irony too of like dana white's power slap league is just so fucking.

Somebody needs to send him to therapy. That's what that sounds like. It sounds like he has a problem with violence. Oh, yeah. Around like just in general. And it sounds like he needs more help. His own mother, his own mother said that he has issues with treating women properly. He needs help.

His own mother came out and said that like years ago but again it's just you see the protection that is afforded to wealthy people who are influential and you have a media class who's you know just kind of have to it's not always going to be consistent sometimes it's a strike sometimes it's a terrible mistake that it'll never do again and it was the first time right and it's just you know i think this is just all part of our like current like media landscape where there's so much shit going on you need to inform people what is happening not mince words and have be able to when people are outraged over something like that be able to inform people because they should be yeah if i can add i think the bigger thing too, in saying this, is the idea of being complicit

with this kind of stuff, right? So when you work for a media company and you see a story like this comes out and you try to run the story, because this is what, again, the journalism in me, I can hear someone putting the story together and then have someone in the background saying, we can't say it this way because they're a sponsor, there's money involved, yada, yada, yada. But I think for me, this notion of what we're saying is when we run a story a certain way and we're not calling out the idea that violence was at the root of it, right, or that DV is at the root of it, we're now complicit with saying that it's okay to do this.

And I think that's the thing that really makes me so upset. It's not even the idea of race. The race piece is important. Yes. And I want to make sure that we name that. But I think for me, it's this notion of we have so many people in media who are complicit with all of these terrible things that continue to happen. And that's the reason why that the status quo continues to stay where it is. Right. Because the status quo is somebody going to ESPN, somebody going to ABC, someone going to NBC. That's really,

and whatever that, the base level or the tone of that reporting is, is what, is what the country is. So if it's Dana, Dana White caught in a heated exchange with wife and Cabo, then domestic violence doesn't exist. There's only heated exchanges,

heated exchanges. Yep. And yeah yeah to your point that is only going to erode the our ability to actually properly address and be outraged at these kinds of things or women dealing with this and and not reporting it like so i mean yeah we see it in 4k in this case but how many other women in and you know positions of or who are married to or connected to people with power are not sharing the fact that they were beat up in an elevator. You know?

And it's again the absolute power of whatever is the most profitable thing winning out in the U.S. It's as bad as any example of royal corruption and shit. It's like, yeah, we will excuse any worst behavior, anything in order to quite literally. Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about excusing the worst behavior. Further proving the classified documents are basically Pokemon for elderly politicians. basically Pokemon for elderly politicians.

Joe Biden had a small number of classified documents. He had a Mewtwo. He had a Mewtwo on him. Not a Charizard. But these were from his time as VP, and they were found in a private office by his lawyers while they were packing files last fall. You know, people on the right are immediately comparing it to Trump's Mar-a-Lago document hoarding, which I think is probably going to be very effective. Right. With their listeners, with their viewers, the same thing.

Yeah, but it doesn't matter. You know, it doesn't matter for that group. They could have a million. Exactly. Also, I don't know any of the words I'm using. Since God gave a pigeon. Yeah. Two things that are happening here, though. So the thing that distinguishes it from Trump's, you know, intentional long term hoarding was that Biden was never notified he had the records, nor was he asked to return them. And as soon as they were found, his team informed the government and they were handed back within a day. Whereas Trump had boxes of documents, ignored requests to return them.

Even when he allowed some to go back, he secretly hoarded more, necessitating the grand jury subpoena. So it's kind of the difference between like forgetting to return a library book you didn't realize was still checked out and you know trying to burn the library down or trying to like blackmail the library with yeah i don't know we're just trying to steal like a whole section of the whole section of the library yeah i'll be like hold on are you checking those out they're like shut the no because i mean why is the second floor empty yeah what the fuck what happened to all the ya romance novels where are all the romance novels that man took them yeah he really was going through documents like he was record shopping oh yeah this one oh yeah that was spicy yay i like that one and that's again i think the biggest thing is just the timing of it because what we this happened so this is the other thing the other big thing that one. And that's again, I think the biggest thing is just the timing of it, because what we this is.

So this is the other thing, the other big thing that's happening here that kind of ties in with the story that we talked about, I think, in last week's episode about Pete Buttigieg was in chart, like was the only federal employee who was able to do anything about the Southwest fiasco meltdown that left a bunch of consumers stranded. And Southwest just was like, ah, sorry, that's them's the breaks. And the mainstream media did seem to just be somewhat complicit in that. In this case, Biden's documents were found back in November, just weeks before the midterms. But they waited until now to announce it, presumably because of potential political blowback. So I guess it's not the media knowing about it in this case, but it is them sitting on it. I wonder what happened to like a I got to talk to you. The president had some classified documents uh that were we had

to return and like the chief staff's like fuck yeah exactly okay just fucking wait like can we wait a month yeah the fucking i can't i can't have pretend you didn't scream yeah right yeah so whatever i mean cbs was really like some of their headlines was like Biden also has classified documents. He shouldn't have the both sides. And there's some real interesting both sides and going on, too, with this story. It's just a little bit like, OK, like, are you going to focus on what's happening with the House right now? Because they are they have lost the plot over there fully. They're like, oh, we got to get this fucking deficit under control.

fully they're like oh we got to get this fucking deficit under control i think they're new like the latest like budget thing that they're putting forward like puts us over like 100 billion already like with no no thought of like this deficit that they were so mindful of but anyway he also i think they're voting to abolish uh the irs and eliminating income tax not not the ice that they should vote to abolish ice yeah not actually but the new irs agents which we know famously go after the wealthy people right yeah which is because my dad's broke ass was audited in 93 we don't know why yeah but i'm like he's like i don't got shit the fuck is this about some rich motherfucker also this is the free internet he's like i gotta file all this paper shit all my taxes for this many years but it's just it's a joke too and like you know they're they're clearly laying the

groundwork for some really like an attack on the lgbtq community too because they've already one of the first orders of business was reversing the gender neutral language that was introduced in 2021 and also being like and nobody should be getting trouble if they want to use gendered terms whenever they want like they're just already they're like take that stuff down take that out this this this this it's going to be pretty despicable i'd imagine yeah all right let's take one more break we'll be back to talk pop culture and other silly stuff I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120.

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conspiracy. For our generation. So back in 2012, you might remember. I didn didn't but you guys did kim kardashian was flower bombed she was being interviewed on the red carpet someone came up and i i thought it was going to be more like violent than it was it was more of like she was sprinkled with flower her head did go back and to the left as it happened. But she was at an event launching a new perfume. It drew attention to the product and the seriousness of baking ingredient based

attacks. Absolutely. Like police were called and everything like Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says deputies were called to the London hotel because somebody threw powder on her. And, you know, you don't know that it's flour. Exactly. It could be the cocaine that her PR agent was doing. Tea. Also, that's an expensive prank. Yes.

Literally. Don't throw like a quarter pound of cocaine on somebody. Okay, do you. You got eight ounces of money. She bravely refused medical treatment at the time. Paramedics were called to the hotel, but Kardashian refused medical treatment and described it as the most craziest,

unexpected, weird thing that ever happened to me. Oh. Jack, you said you've never seen it. Do you want to see this moment? Oh, I watched the video for the story, yeah. I mean, the audio is just interesting because she's giving an interview and the person just utters, fur hag, because it was like an anti-fur protest supposedly but she's

giving an interview she's talking she's talking oh here comes a person from the back with the bag here's the thing though this is the beginning of kim kardashian's terrible acting career because knowing what we know now her her reactions are very like i knew that she was gonna she's like feigning outrage she's like oh no it's smiling like she's smiling she's smiling right here yeah she's like smiling oh shit it happened according to plan anyway so yeah what were you saying about this and then walks off with her head down like almost like trying to stifle a laugh yeah so yeah yeah yeah or it was kind of doing that thing where like someone threw a like on a reality show where someone throws a drink on someone and they're not

trying to let that phase them so they they go, oh, oh, OK. Right. Right. And just wipe the drink off. Right before grabbing their hair. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. Anyways, we recently learned that it was all a PR stunt. She was totally in on it. Her PR agent and her planned the faux attack in order to create a media moment. She supposedly told Kim Kardashian, if we create media gold guess what's going to happen everyone's going to be talking about your perfume everyone's going to buy it i did that happen i'm wearing it right now oh okay but i thought you were saying you always wear white diamonds you said yeah yeah it's a little it's a melange oh you're switching

it up he's classy oh yeah didn't tom cruise have something similar happen to him too where he got flower bombed at the literally same year sprayed with a squirt gun i think was it i thought he got flower bombed too oh did he i think he did maybe this works so well or maybe he got glitter bombed he got i think he wait let's see there's a whole thing he said. Slips get attacked. Glitter bomb. Flower bomb. Kim got the flower.

Who is this? I think Lindsay Lohan got hit with glitter and flower. Oh, yeah. What? Yeah. What? I don't know. That looks like a liquid.

What did you say? Maybe he did get wet. He did at one point get sprayed with a squirt gun. And I just remember because he has this like very friendly facade. But when he got sprayed with a squirt gun, he went away fast. It was. Yeah, because I thought this was a part of something about Mary. Somebody has a screen.

I was like, what is happening in this picture? So, yeah, I got mad. Lindsay Lohan and the screencap that they used of her glitter bomb attack looks like she's being hit with molten metal. Yeah. Or like a grenade went off. I don't know. This is interesting to me because it suggests that like there are those times where you hear a conspiracy theory. you hear a conspiracy theory like i had recently heard that uh all the don't worry darling extreme media push controversy was all part of some 4d chess plan and it did seem to like it had a big

opening weekend and then yeah kind of died off after that but that is a big opening weekend is usually a testament to a really successful media push and i don't know like this so first of all it's such a bad idea like to say out loud we're going to make people buy your perfume by dumping flour on your head but it is also like the it was definitely like conceived by someone who was doing too many stimulants i think yeah whether it be coffee or or what it was but it's it does kind of open my mind to okay i'm going to be viewing any anything like this in the future through new glasses because of this right yeah i mean it makes sense because so much is like celebrity is such a spectacle yeah that all you have to do is you know think a little bit ahead of how people are going to respond to what's happening to a celebrity and you get this kind of

shit like all the time or like it would be like oh if someone does this then it's popping if you got all this talk around you know the stuff that was going on set or whatever people are going to be talking because i feel like is the the days we used to just take movies in there would be a billboard there would be a fucking bus bench ad there would be a couple music videos and you knew a movie was coming out right but i think in the age of like the internet everything it's like those same i don't think those work in the same way and they kind of have to do like run psyops on the fucking audience to get them interested on some level right well related but not related i was thinking about the whole i don't know if you've all talked about it but the jen shaw thing right so her bringing a fake bag to her um her sentencing everyone has

been talking about that. And I'm like, as much as people are like, oh, this thing, I'm like, that's what these reality folks have been crafted to do. They've learned how to make every moment of their, like anything happens. It's a moment. And so like, I'm not surprised

that someone would come out and say Kim Kardashian's flower bomb thing was a moment. For me, I'm sorry, but I'm laughing because as I'm looking through the photos, there's these people vacuuming up the flower. And it's taking me down every time I see someone with an actual

vacuum vacuuming up the flower. But all that to say, I'm not surprised. Clean it up. Yeah, I'm not surprised at all. But I'm curious to hear from you guys any any zeit gang what are stories like this that you always suspected were an inside job there there have been rumors that paris hilton and kim kardashian's sex tape leaks were both you know things that they did that you know what whether it was an

inside job or not both like exploded their careers and to the stratosphere you know so Paris Hilton say that wasn't she wasn't a part of that she has come out and said that but it's always been rumored that so right because because Joe was that wasn't yeah because I feel like the guy she was with is like a total. Yeah. Predator. Right. Yeah. I don't know what other things. I mean, I I'm not saying this is an inside job, but when the Caitlyn Jenner Vanity Fair cover came out. Right.

When she came out, that was the day the renewal of the Patriot Act was going on. And there was a lot of outrage because Edward Snowden was like, you know, what the nsa is kind of up to right there was a huge conversation around surveillance uh but the debate like on like the day before there's all this debate going on and then that like they were like trying to get the votes right and they finally got it through just served as a great it was more of an example of a great like pop culture distraction while something really fucking like despicable is happening yeah yeah yeah that's what i always thought like when you look at the dates of it you're like wow that's i think just more serendipitous for the military industrial complex and surveillance state

right then caitlin chenner ends up being a republican politician yeah and then you're like and then at the end it's like it wasn't op right just so you know i feel feel like Julia Fox was never interested in Kanye, but that's not necessarily something I think was a setup. That just seems like self-serving, like social climbing of the lowest common denominator variety. Yeah. But I don't know. What other, you know, like was it Tom Cruise jumping up and down on the couch? That felt contrived. That did.

Or was that real? You know, like where do we land on that i think that was a dean scream level like the media ran with something because they were ready to pile on you're doing the opposite and because he when you picture that moment in your mind what do you see like do you see him jumping up and down on the couch like it's a trampoline yeah in my mind i think so what actually he jumped on the couch stood there for a second and then jumped off like when you go back and watch it it's somewhat underwhelming he just hopped on yeah he hopped on and hopped on he's like i'm not saying the the version that came through into the collective consciousness was earned by just like his being intense to a degree that it's like, well, that person's really not human. And their career is built on them portraying humans up to that point.

And since then, Tom Cruise has been like, all right, what if my thing is just I'm the most intense person and I will die for you to watch my movie? But I don't think the media had to work too hard on that one as opposed to the Dean scream. But I do think that that one wasn't. It was just people were ready to be like, this person is, we're out on Tom Cruise. Right. Okay. Yeah. That's my theory.

Anyways. But yeah. Did he say, I love my wife, or did he say, I love that woman? I love that woman, I believe is what I remember.

Yeah. That was, that's a lot. Very believable. Very believable. Yeah. There's a lot of, that's a lot of drugs, honey. Yeah. I don't know. Or thetans, believable. Yeah. There's a lot of, that's a lot of drugs,

honey. Yeah. I don't know. Or thetans, you know? Yeah. I think he's just got the natural, he's got that CEO energy,

you know? Yeah. Cause he's like, yeah. If he weren't an actor, he'd be like some billionaire who like, Oh, for sure.

You know, like let like millions of people die like under his watch, but I don't know. 40% of his day clapping, you know, like just that. Right. All right. Well, Like under his watch. Spends 40% of his day clapping. You know, like just that. Right. All right.

Well, speaking of other movie stars, Mel Gibson is reportedly making Passion of the Christ 2, Cruise Control. As the writer JM put it. It's not called Cruise Control. It should be Christ Control. Yeah. But he's apparently just months away from making a sequel to his torture porn blockbuster, The Passion of the Christ. He had talked about the. What's it about?

So this is this is interesting. So he's talked before about the project and said that is going to be wild and a vast theological experience. That is an acid trip, which sounded cool to me. Much cooler than the first page of the Christ. I don't know if y'all saw that, but that is the least movie-like movie. The anti-Semitism was a little wacky in that one. Oh my god.

And there's just like no plot. It's just a person getting beat until the thing. And look, and Jim Caviezel is doing great now. Yeah. It really sent him on. He also,

I'm pretty sure got struck by lightning while he was on the cross during the filming of that movie. It's like, how many signs do you need? Like this is, this is the sort of thing y'all believe in. Like how many side signs that a per, a a God is up there not wanting this to happen do you need if that's what you believe in? Anyways, the idea is that it will happen in the time between Jesus dying and Jesus rising in some heaven, hell, nether world thing. So so it's just gonna be a totally different genre

it's gonna be hey all right hey man i'd love to see someone really take this way religious their religion and treat it with the proper sanctity yeah and respect it deserves being like hey man what about between friday and sunday though what the fuck was what was going on and that's right huh when he was in the cave saturday yeah yeah do you think it starts off like friday like it starts like the first thing you see is friday start out with but but but but but it's friday yeah but then they yeah then they have him what like in a i don't know it's i can't believe like someone's fine and whatever. Yeah. There's always somebody wants to make Jesus stuff. Yeah. So there's a there's a history of people trying to make, hey, this this is a recipe that works. So there was a Christian film producer who tried to crowdfund 40 million dollars to make a sequel.

It didn't really go anywhere. Most fucked up attempt to make a follow up to the Passion of the Christ came from the original film screenwriter, Benedict Fitzgerald. So it's Benny Fitz after the movie came out, was not getting any job offers, which is, you know, it is one of the most successful movies of all time. But on the other hand, the film was, let's say, controversial and also literal garbage. It's one of the worst movies. But also, I was just curious about, what was his backstory? Was he working? Did he write Lethal Weapon 4 and then Mel Gibson roped him into this?

Not a ton of credits, but is from... Have you ever seen quiz show? Movie quiz show? Where it's about... With Ray Fiennes and John Turturro? Yeah. And this guy who is like from a famous intellectual family becomes a famous quiz critic named Robert Fitzgerald. And when he was a kid, Flannery O'Connor babysat him.

But so he's like literary royalty. And this was kind of he worked on a couple of TV shows. And then this was his biggest thing. And then everyone was like, oh, man, we really didn't like that. So he hasn't been able to get work but he was able to get a big payday by saying actually okay what about prequel any any interest in a prequel and everyone's like hell no but he was able to raise money to make the movie by turning to a mexican drug cartel okay signed an agreement with them was was oh they signed agreements yeah exactly was shockingly incurious about like

what what are these people where's all this money coming from right from these people that nobody in hollywood's ever heard of and the cartel sued him over some money he couldn't pay back. No! The cartel sued him? Yes. I like that the cartel's like, hey man, get a business agreement. This guy's the best.

We don't know this guy. Yeah. We don't know how he moves. So the cartel signed over the rights to the movie to two men, one of whom wanted the other to give up his half of the script. And when he refused, the other guy kidnapped his brother with the ransom being a faxed note agreeing to give up

his half of the passion prequel oh my this is the movie this is the movie i don't understand why someone's not making this a movie just be writing what is happening i you, stupid ass. This guy runs afoul of the cartel. There's fucking kidnapping over the rights to the Passion of the Christ prequel. This is the movie. Why is no one making this? Is this optioned? Has someone optioned this? Because we should.

This is actually a fantastic movie that you could make. And you don't have to talk about passion. Yeah, exactly. like and you don't have to tell them argo yeah exactly the script was then sold for one million dollars to a producer who was immediately questioned by the dea and then when an arrest was made the government like the u.s government claimed the rights to 10 of the future prophets of mary mother of christ the name of the movie because it was going to be all about Mary, which they then ended up losing in court. They got sued to give up their rights to it. And then, after all that, the movie was never made

because the script had become tainted. But this is the legacy of a Passion of Christ sequel, which is, on one level, it's like the Titanic sequel. It's a thing you would joke about feels impossible but yeah i should i just not a lot i gotta see this movie now about this fucking guy going to the cartel to make a film that is so awful and the downward spiral that ensues that's that's where i'm at. Yeah. You know? But I just like that the pivot was, all right, then.

Let's do it, like, right after they take him off the cross. Until Easter Sunday. We'll do that. Okay, we burned the prequel. Nobody has the rights to the acid trip in the fucking cave. In the tomb, as it were. That's right. So, we'll see.

Well, I'll be eagerly awaiting that. He was talking to Satan. The snake. The serpent. Do you think, what is that going to look like? You know what I mean? How do you even do that? That won't,

I feel like even Christian people who fucked with the first one might even be offended by whatever the director's depiction is of all this other stuff. Oh, for sure. It's going to be wildly offensive and boring at the same time

like the first one. Like, is there going to be a scene where he's like you know what I mean? Like going into like a wormhole. They're spinning the camera. Yeah. And then he lands in like a dark void. Where am I?

Welcome to hell Jesus. You're mine unless you can beat me in this fiddling contest. James Brown gets a whole sequence. Cause he's down there entertaining. Welcome to hell. And the doors open and it's just. Jesus is like,

what is going on? I mean, that would be in a way. If you said there's a fucking sequence where Jesus goes in a fucking wormhole to a black void, which is hell. And then he has a dance battle with James Brown. Yeah. The lights pop on. Yeah. I'm like, okay, look, I don't fuck with Mel Gibson, but this is so absurd.

I might have to torrent the legal but this is so absurd i might have to torrent the illegal version of the film because i might have to see that absolutely yeah i would watch it just to laugh yeah yeah oh man well so wait would jim caviezel come back for this i have to imagine i don't think he's gonna object jim caviezel he's gone full right wing object jim caviezel he's gone full right wing mega yeah yeah what's that gonna i know i mean talk about controversy on top of controversy hey passion of the christ too and it'll probably do extremely well from conflict marketing yeah so called electric tumulu yeah it is funny to me that it is funny to me that they blamed for the flower bombing like their made up villain

was an animal rights person like they're just always they know they have the 4D chess mind to know that the media wants to blame like they won't look too deep into that they would love to blame an animal rights person so right yeah there it is but yeah i mean that conflict the the first passion of the crisis is probably the best example of conflict marketing like that movie is a monster monster hit

yeah and i don't like they were churches were being like, it is your duty. You will go to hell if you don't go out and see this movie. Because isn't it an Aramaic tune and shit? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that part in a whole bunch of different languages. Yeah.

Well, can't wait to see the Shroud of Turin. Like, is he going to use the Shroud? Is like, does he tie that up in like a nice head wrap or something? Right. Like Rambo style? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. is like does he tie that up in like a nice head wrap or something right like rambo stuff yeah oh wow okay we're starting our own yeah the three of us about to write this script john we have to write it we have to write this this has to get written well john such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist as always i just all i do is sit here and laugh because y'all, literally a lot of these stories, all you can do is laugh because it's so terrible.

If you don't laugh to keep from crying, what else can you do? Yeah. Just lean into a little bit of outrage. Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Well, right now you can find me swimming outside of my apartment because everything is flooded. But with that being said, you can find me online by using the handle at Dr. John Paul. You can also visit me on my website at www.drjohnpaul.com.

Amazing. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media that you've been enjoying? Yes. So I bookmarked actually this thing because so me uh this person mask potatoes they tweeted me abruptly running from the elevator to my apartment because my brain told me there could be a killer in the stairwell i genuinely like my brain tells me all the time, like, someone's in that corner, run. And so sometimes I'll, like, be getting out of my car, and, like, I psych my own self out, and then I, like, dart up the street because I'm, like, nervous that, like, Jason or somebody is after

me. I don't know why I'm that way, but yeah, that resonated with me because that's so me. I've always suspected it is because when our brains were designed, we were actually running from things like things that were trying to kill us constantly. And so our brain just is like, we got to burn off some excess running from something that's trying to kill us energy. So let's let's get up and go. Let's make something. Yeah. Let's make a movie. Miles, where can people find you?

What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Check Jack and I out on Miles and Jack out Matt Boosties, our basketball podcast. And also check me out on 420 Day Fiance where I talk 90 Day Fiance. Yeah, yeah. But that's almost over. So I think we're all right. Michael.

Let's see. Michael. I mean, I can't say it, Angela. She's like a nasty, man. There's like so many toxic, abusive relationships on this show that people are like, wow, they're messy. And I think half people are like, no, this is actually terrible to put on TV. Yeah. They are abusing each other.

Yeah. Yes. It's wild. It's wild. I feel like 90 Day Fiancé is is gonna be the first show where somebody kills somebody else on the thing and they put it in the show like as part of like the running man you know type thing where it's like that's where we're at our new entertainment uh star-crossed lovers anyway uh here's one from a tweet from rojita rojita kadambi at rojita kadambi uh tweeted

about 105 years ago when royals had an extended family feud people died by the millions in trenches now we're just watching it like an episode of the kardashians and i see that as progress uh yeah i feel like that absolutely we don't need to send people off for your empirical wars also uh at menace to snacks tweeted this like screen cap of a gina carano tweet uh you know the ufc like mma fighter who went like hard right and then like got completely kicked off the Mandalorian. And then we were like, oh, anyway, she tweeted this. I didn't fumble the bag. I just didn't go along with the sellout narrative.

The online mob couldn't handle that. So they petitioned to have me fired and won. I'm not sorry for that. I stood for what I believe the right thing to do was. And the more time goes by, the better I feel. And then they quote you that said, quote, I wanted to make shitty Westerns for Ben Shapiro instead of headlining a spinoff of the most highly valued IP in entertainment history. Checkmate, Libs. Hashtag, I'm not owned.

Oh, man, he wasn't fast enough. Oh, man. He was in Fast and the Furious, huh? Yeah, and then the COVID vaccine takes came out, and, you know, people got to unmask in public. Tweet I've been enjoying from January 1st, actually, from Will Sennett, at Senn underscore spud. My friend patting me down.

Sorry to do this. It's just the last time everybody at the party was pretty weirded out. Me with my Kindle duct taped to my stomach all good brother man was he gonna get in a bar fight with the kindle on his stomach no just read at the party oh like he's smuggling it in yeah oh i in my mind i thought of this thing of like you would tape phone books to your stomach so you could take a blow if somebody tried to sucker punch you. I don't know why that's where my mind went. I'm more of a read at the party guy.

So that connected with me. Maybe that's what it was. Don't punch me in my weak core, please. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Oh, man. So I've been listening to this group from this Irish folk group called The Breath. And I had never heard this group until this weekend. And this song I thought was like a West African kind of like rock tune going on first. Like the rhythm was very like West African.

And then the vocalist, her name is Rina Connolly. Man, fantastic like voice for like this like kind of Irish folk thing. But the band is like funky in this weird way and i think she's played for like uh like like celt afro beat type like crossover bands and all kinds of stuff but she's like a very interesting vocalist this track was pretty dope uh it's called what you owe and it's by the breath so i think of it like funky cranberries kind of in a way yeah i don't know i don't know if that's an apt uh you know comparison but that's how i was like oh wait hold on i'm back on my irish shit now and don't try and figure out how to spell the lead singer's name just uh look up the band

and then man shout out to those names man i really every time i look at them like okay how am i tackle this one how many vows can we pack into this fucker yeah it seems like the guiding principle man i remember the first time i met a Siobhan, I was shook to say their name because I didn't, I had no idea how to say it. And then they said Siobhan. I was like, oh shit, I almost called you Siobhan. Yeah. My bad.

For a stray age. In there. Yeah. All right. Well, we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that's going to do it for us this morning back this

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