The Daily Zeitgeist - The Geisty's: Most Appropriate Film/Show Of The Year 12.27.17

Episode Date: December 27, 2017

In this special episode, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss the most appropriate films and television shows of the 2017 year. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That was very aggressive, Jack. Very aggressive. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat By the hilarious Ify Wadiwe Hello everybody, it's Ify Chukwuni Wadiwe Down with the dailies, hey guys Very excited to be here today Talking with Miles Gray You know it's going to be a good time Diego Ryan is chilling as well

I like this new character I was hoping that that would just go for the entire half hour It will, it might have to yeah this is how i'm doing this like this but just without either of us speaking if you just so today we're giving out the geisties for uh the movie that captured the zeitgeist. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. And we are the authority on this. And the TV show that captured the zeitgeist. Yes, ah, yes, aha, aha, aha. Aha, aha, aha, aha, aha.

Aha, brah. And so we're going to just run through a list and then kind of debate the merits of the films on our list. We will not be talking about Star Wars, The Last Jedi, because we have a separate episode coming up for y'all where we're going to talk about Star Wars with a couple other special guests. And also because it's not one of the movies that captured the zeitgeist. No, all it did was enrage a lot of neckbeards. Right, exactly. And some people, you know, I was...

Which you could argue was appropriate to the year. But yeah, it's not appropriate enough, as you will soon see, because our list is lit. So let's start out with the movie It, which kind of came out of nowhere. You know, there was supposedly going to be a boycott of the movie It because Stephen King was talking spicy about Donald Trump. And so the MAGA army came out and were like, all right, guys, you know what to do. Nobody see it. And then it came out and was a monster hit.

Well, we've said time and again, the MAGA effect on films and TVs that are boycotted by that group of people. It's actually the greatest endorsement. Apparently, people seem to like to get behind it. But it does seem appropriate to the cultural moment. Can you tell me why? It seems like a movie where people are scared of a clown who is actually killing people, even though he looks sort of silly on the surface and comes from a sewer. You're describing the president.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because we're living in fear of a terrifying old white clown. Right. Who is just doing a bunch of damage to a young generation. Right. And operating on people's fear. Yeah.

Right. Yeah. What happens every eight years, they said, in the movie? Right. Yeah, you know, last year we had a black clown that brought hope to the city. That'd be this old. I don't know, this is a weird turn, but okay.

Alright. Horror just had a big year in general, as we'll get to. But the big superhero movie of the year was undoubtedly Wonder Woman. It was kind of the superhero movie of the year was undoubtedly Wonder Woman. It was kind of the superhero movie that was just an unqualified success, killed it at the box office. Critics seemed to like it. They actually let a woman direct it.

What? Real crazy, real crazy. Out there moved. Social justice warriors, man. I know. I'm telling you. The one DC movie directed by a woman was Wonder Woman, and it is the one DC movie that turns out is actually good. Go figure.

Yeah. How about it? And that seemed to capture the moment of female empowerment, or maybe it kind of presaged the whole uh me too movement a little bit like women stepping up uh saying fuck this patriarchy a little bit um because it came out at the beginning of the summer and weinstein didn't get taken down until a couple months later but uh literally the fall yeah i mean, I think Wonder Woman was great. I think it was really nice to see a female superhero, like, have the same aggressive qualities. Like, normally female superheroes in films are, like, reduced to, like, flying, like, psychics.

Oh, yeah. Who didn't get their, like, hands, like, in shit. Yeah. And it was dope to just see Wonder Woman just wreck the shit out of, like, tanks and stuff. I really enjoyed that. Yeah, I think it's definitely up there because when you look, I think it was the second highest grossing film of this year behind Beauty of the Beast, Beauty and the Beast. Right. Which we don't have to talk about because I don't think that I mean, Beauty and the Beast was the highest.

Beauty and the Beast was the big one. And I guess even though we don't have it on our list, I guess you can make an argument for like a female protagonist being held captive by a horrifying beastly male is actually fairly appropriate for where we ended the year, even though Beauty and the Beast came out at the beginning of the year. Yeah. So maybe that should be on our list. But it's not. And that's for children. not. That's for children. Right. That's for children. Because when you also look, I mean, again, these aren't about what the highest grossing films are most critically acclaimed.

We're just trying to be like, what felt like, you know, what? The movie of the year. Can you sum up the year? So you know how Time Magazine has the person of the year, and sometimes, you know, Obama wins, but other times Hitler wins. And it's not whether they're the best person. It's just they're the person that like summed up the year that was most influential, that when there's a history book that like has a picture next to the year 2017, this is the face. And that's what we're trying to do with movies. Like what is the movie that people will think of when they think of this year um and might as well go to the next one that i

think is the odds on consensus favorite uh is get out um oh yeah i didn't want to start with it even though we have it first on our list just because that would have been too much. But yeah, Get Out came out of nowhere, was a genuine cultural phenomenon, was politically incredibly relevant, had a black writer, director, star, and was about the experience of being a black person in America, in the modern world, and was just generally a really great movie. I don't know. What do you guys think? Oh, it was hands down my favorite. I think just the steps to it also was amazing because we hear,

you know, Jordan Peele is coming out with a horror movie. And I think a lot of people were like, what this comedy dude's doing a horror movie. i think a lot of people were like what this comedy dude's doing a horror movie and then when you see what it was you could have never guessed that he was going to do it and that he was going to stick the landing so well yeah it was it was unbelievable and it was one of those things like through film right it helped people understand like even the subtle ways things can situations can be terrifying for people of color.

And, like, really subtle. Like, there were times, like, even as I was watching it, like, you forget that, like, there are versions of racism that aren't so necessarily aggressive. Like, fuck you, you're black or whatever. Or, like, the subtle ways when people are like, oh, you're so cool, man. That's right. You're a cool brother. Like, you know, like, oh, he's a cool. Like, you know, that shit, like, when the dad was doing i was like yeah like i had a lot of moments like that like when you know

meeting you know like when i would date white girls meeting their parents and like yeah you're a cool guy like this there were very familiar things to it that i was like i hadn't i guess i didn't internalize or hadn't really thought about and like that was it was a great it was a great step for i think people even kind of seeing just the nuances of what can be terrifying. Yeah, right. That, you know, I think we're a little bit obscured for people over the years. And I think that coupled with a lot of the events that happened this year, I think people just kind of it seemed like they were waking up to. At least understanding what the black experience is like in this country a little bit more.

And I think that the film really did a good job of doing that. Being admired in a way that is like fetishizing. Yeah. And it started a lot of cool conversation. I remember that there was an interview that the lead actress. Alison Williams. Alison Williams. Brian Williams' daughter.

People would stop her in the street and be like, yeah, she was hypnotized, though. And she'd be like, no, she was evil. And it was like, oh, no. But her parents, because people were so inclined to think this beautiful white woman has somehow been tricked into being evil. They want so bad to be like, no, she's a beautiful white woman. There's no way she can be evil. And I think that's a perfect analogy for these people like Tommy Lauren and stuff that gets you go so far and say so many things.

I honestly believe that if Tommy Lauren was saying the things that she was and she was a man, she'd be like, Sean, you know, I feel like you can only have one Bill O'Reilly, Alex Jones. That's it.

You know, then you're too crazy. Like, I feel like she doesn't get the same heat as someone like Milo. Who's just like, yo, this dude's gross. And I feel like it's because she's this beautiful white woman. So people are willing to be like, calm down. You're tripping right now.

She's virtuous. It's like this weird type of sexism where it's like, you're a woman. There's no way you can actually be evil say this vitriolic um and just in terms of cultural impact uh it was the 14th most successful movie of the year which uh put it ahead of pirates of the caribbean kong skull island uh coco cars 3 war for the planet of the apes uh so you know it beat out a lot of blockbusters with a budget of $4.5 million. And then Metacritic does this great thing. I am such a Metacritic stan, which is the lamest thing to be in the world.

But I do- Almost every day this week, there's been a Metacritic mention. Yeah, I know. Well, it's just such a far superior product to Rotten Tomatoes. And people still, when they talk about review aggregators, they go directly to Rotten Tomatoes and people still like when they talk about review aggregators they go directly to Rotten Tomatoes which sucks but uh so Metacritic does this thing where they like collate all of the top 10 movie lists of the year and they give three points for placing for being the critics first place movie two points for being second place one point for being ranked third

through tenth and then 0.5 for being included on an unranked list with uh 11 to 20 titles and you know they go through all of the critics lists the number five movies dunkirk four is the florida project three call me by your name two lady bird and one is Get Out. So Get Out is, you know, despite being a cheap genre movie, really just kind of captured the moment, captured the year. So moving on, The Big Sick was a really solid comedy from over the summer that talked about race and I don't know just had some great performances really good jokes

what did you guys think? I didn't see it cool, Girls Trip Anna did you see it? Anna says it's good it's a great movie that depicts an interracial relationship and the troubles a young brown man

has to deal with trying to bring a white woman into his life when his family does not approve we already talked about Get Out in an arranged marriage and it's very well done and it's very funny and Kumail is hilarious and you guys are terrible for not seeing it. I saw it.

You saw it. I'm terrible. I thought, yeah. Direct that at me, Anna. A real high percentage of the jokes land. But for Zyke, in terms of like cultural phenomena, why do you feel it gets a mention here? Because it kind of came out of nowhere. It was like, but it was all everybody was talking about at least in certain circles for a couple weeks.

I don't think it totally took over the entire zeitgeist. I think it was real popular in like comedy circles and LA, New York scene. But I don't know that it was the culture-defining moment that Get Out and wonder woman was oh so it was it was big in the uh coastal liberal elite bubble right right i see i see next movie is a comedy that i think like basically all the jokes fucking land uh girls trip i thought it was fucking great yeah yeah and you know again a pretty big hit that kind of came out of nowhere. And, yeah, I don't know. It just worked really well.

It launched some new names and, you know, showed us some old oldies but goodies. I didn't see it. The theme continues. But I will talk about the zeitgeist effect in which how it skyrocketed Tiffany Haddish into the stratosphere. Like people finally were like, oh, this person's funny. It's like, yeah, she's been crazy. I remember this is a fun story. at midnight and just seeing like Chris and the showrunner come in the next day and go, she's going to be a star because she just lit the show up in a way that you just never seen before. She kind of like commanded and dominated the room.

And you know what? It's real cool when you get to see like that light bulb turn up with, and like, you know, that happened for other people like Marcel, Marcel Arguello when she was on the show, like people were like, Oh man,

like this, this is crazy is crazy so like you know i feel like you hear about that a lot like in like stories documentary podcasts it was crazy to watch it be in the room firsthand it was like oh and that was before girl strip came out yeah it was before so if you were a writer on at midnight which was a comedy central show for many years it's in memorial in memoriam right and uh it would have three comedians come on and like compete to have the funniest answers it was hosted by a guy named chris hardwick i think nailed it yeah but that so he was like damn she's yeah she's a genius um if you want one of the next movies we had on the list was I, Tonya as one of the ghosties. Because, yeah, I wanted to throw in a movie that not only I think is great, but was really representative of the year we've had. And what's crazy about I, Tonya is like you watch it and you, and it's based off the autobiography

she wrote. And one of the things I didn't know is that she didn't actually break Nancy Kerrigan's knee. Right, right, right. It was her abusive husband and his goons that went and did it and threw her under the bus. And it's that story of this. And it's crazy to watch it because the end, at the end, it kind of tells what she's up to now. And like she I think it's like she's teaching some local class and she's living like a kind of humble life.

And it's interesting to kind of like watch some someone get done wrong, see like someone go through something and then they get no retribution. And I feel like that's been this year where we've been like all the proof has been shown. We know all the transgressions. We know all the laws of constitution that the president has broke. Everyone in his camp is broke. There's been talks of impeachment. And as a matter of fact, I remember getting an email saying that they promised that there will be an impeachment vote by Christmas. Christmas is next week, and it has yet to happen.

Not going to happen. Yeah, so it feels like the end of I, Tonya, where it's like, yeah, we know who did the wrong, who deserves the retribution, but we're all going to be teaching a kayaking class next year in Wisconsin. And you'll shout out to Tanya Harding because I see her on VH1 from time to time. Yeah. Like those panel shows where she's just like weighing in. You're like, oh, Tanya, there you are. Yeah. Well, you know, it is what it is.

It is. It's the world we live in. It is. So I guess in terms of films, for the ones that we have seen on the list, again, what captured the spirit? Are we going to say, do we need a drum roll? Or are we just going to say it was Get Out? It was Get Out.

It was Get Out. Also, check out the alternate ending. Oh, yeah. I saw the alternate ending. I was so glad. Could you imagine if that was the ending? Yeah, I was like, that wouldn't have... Oh, that would have...

Broke me. Yeah. I couldn't... – oh, that would have – Broke me. Yeah, I was like, I couldn't. But the alternate ending arguably sums up the year a little bit better than the ending, the happy ending. Because it would have blown your face off. Yeah, I don't even want to spoil it. If you can rent the DVD, just check out that alternate. Like, watch the movie and then watch the alternate.

Like, don't even just watch the alternate ending because i watched it like straight after and i was like man if the movie ended like this i probably would have like just died inside but the award for uh best explanation of how a movie sums up the year goes to iffy and i tanya uh because that almost that convinced me that i tanya was the movie of the year, even though I don't think that many people saw it. But great explanation, Ify. We're going to take a quick break, and then we're going to talk about TV shows. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist

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Yes. So, big year in TV streaming and the show that we start off with kind of had a big year at the emmys i think it was the first streaming uh specific show that won for like best tv show handmaid's tale cleaned up at the emmys yeah did you guys watch it yeah it was pretty good pretty dark definitely some yeah if it gave you a glimpse into a possible dystopian future. It felt very much like of the moment.

It was absurd. To the point that it was crazy that they had made it before they knew the outcome of the election. But I think everybody had a like extra sort of dimension of poignancy and like horror while watching it because of the events that were taking place absolutely oh yeah in the real world uh next we have rick and morty uh which definitely had a cultural moment um they uh added more diversity to their writers room had probably their best season yet uh some of the best episodes in the history of rick and morty uh many of them written by women and uh it also summed up the year because its fan base of partially made up of neckbeards kind of freaked out about the fact that uh you know women were being added to the writers room

and how like people weren't smart enough to be its fans and how uh mcdonald's didn't bring back enough szechuan sauce or some shit i don't know uh there was like a near riot at a mcdonald's i think at some point uh or that might have been a overly sensationalized news story right but anyways rick and morty was everywhere uh definitely one of my favorite tv shows of the year uh what do you guys i i watched it sporadically early but i didn't i'm not like i can't say i'm a rick and morty fan although i don't i don't think i could say i watch enough to say either way to have a huge opinion on it but yeah i feel like in terms of culture it it got a lot of people talking like through different events especially the szechuan sauce thing like it had a lot of people talking through different events, especially the Szechuan Sauce thing.

It had a lot of people being like, what the fuck is Rick and Morty? Who are these people who are rioting in the parking lot? I mean, look, I love Rick and Morty. It's probably one of my favorite shows, but it's another nerdy thing I like that I have to distance myself

from the fans. And this time it's like, fans of Rick and Morty are like fans of Immortal Technique. They think by watching the show they're smarter. They think that it makes them smart for partaking in this because someone is saying these faux smart things, and you're like, oh, man, or these deep things. And it's one of those weird things. Everyone who thinks they're a Rick are the same as that person who brags about being the Larry David from Curb.

It's like, you know that person's a piece of shit. That's the joke, is that someone can be this shitty. Right, right. And the real heroes of the show are the people that have to deal with that person and how they deal with it. It reminded me of back when, before you guys were born when the matrix first came out uh people yeah were like no but do you you don't get it man like what if it was all just like an illusion i was like yeah no no shit like that's what the movie was and that's a thought other people have had guys i still uh yeah i don't watch movies that came up before I was born. So I have not seen it.

Sounds like it sounds awful. Uh, I remember the matrix. I was deep in the matrix. Cause the matrix had that PlayStation game where you played as two, you had a male or female protagonist. And there was the scene where, um, I think,

was it Jada Pinkett or Halle Berry? Who's in the secret Jada Jada would kiss the character. And the big thing was like, if you pick the girl character, she kisses the girl. Because it was like a cut scene. It wasn't like digital. And that was like the biggest thing to us. Like, nerds was like, oh, you got to pick the girl. It's like you see two girls kiss.

I remember this game. I don't know the movie, but I remember the game. Because I used to use my GameShark to have unlimited bullet time when I play. And I would just wreck the shit out of every level because I was basically cheating. No, you were cheating. Not basically. You were cheating. Okay, sure.

I like to call it a game enhancer. Like, they market it. But anyway, shout out to GameShark, wherever you're at. Because I remember, yeah, like, if you had bullet time infinite, you just basically played the whole game in slow motion and killed everybody. Anyway, let's move on to the next show. Game of Thrones. Because I remember, yeah, like if you had bullet time infinite, you just basically played the whole game in slow motion and killed everybody. Anyway, let's move on to the next show. Game of Thrones. Yeah.

I mean, I don't know if it sums up the year. Yeah. But it definitely, it just consumes so much of people's attention that I guess just by default it has to be on this list. Yeah. Somewhat disappointing, sort of like this year. Yeah. I guess, yeah i guess yeah it was yeah there were some rough episodes in there uh the ending was tough they're also look spoiler alert spoiler alert spoiler alert spoiler alert uh look when they were dragging the dragon straight up out

of the lake how come there wasn't any tension on that chain anyway yeah there's like shit like where the fuck did the white Walkers get that chain from? Oh, the White Walker Depot. Right. Yeah, I don't know. It was definitely my least favorite season of Game of Thrones to date. I mean, I just like that shit was finally starting to happen. Yeah.

Because I have been waiting for all this shit. It was all happening too fast which again a good representation of this year right shit was just constantly happening like big things like they spent a whole season like walking to a place and then like this season it was just like okay and now we're gonna like run back to the wall and like get the army to like come back and like get fly a fucking dragon like that happened in the space of like five minutes in the show it was like yo this used to take like three seasons to do that much shit well have you uh well have you seen george rr martin like have you seen how he looks yeah hbo is trying to make sure they get this done before right yeah it happens to george well yeah

and there were some cultural parallels like weren't there like those rumored like antifa posters that were, like, likening it to, like, fighting the White Walkers and shit? Yeah, come fight the Whites. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, like, ugh, I mean, I don't know. It's going to be a full-on race war, but... The more we talk about this, the more my least favorite season of

Game of Thrones yet might be the show of the year, just based on all the ways it lines up. Just fighting the brain-dead Whites? Yeah, and just looking at like this year the fact that things that seemed like they would be huge news stories in years past would just like go under the radar because five other fucking things were happening oh interesting whoa never thought okay maybe we'll have to rise it up a little bit on the list oh right uh up next big little lies yep great show about women fucking up an abusive man.

Dope. Summed up the zeitgeist, I think, pretty accurately. Did you guys watch it? Yeah, I loved it. No, my wife did, though. She really enjoyed it. Man, the show was so well edited, too. That was one of the shows I watched, and i was even like aside from the performances and

the directing and the music the editing really like it made flat the flashbacks more powerful and poignant and i i thought it was a fucking great great show and you know uh shout out to zoe kravitz too yeah who apparently was like playing way older than she actually was i was kind of surprised i'm like y'all know she's really young. Let's talk about Zoe. When I went to 808s and Heartbreaks at the Hollywood Bowl, she played a golden woman for the show where she would just stand in the back during Paranoid, I believe. Really?

Yeah. She was just covered in gold? She was covered in gold and standing, and she was like the sun shining on Kanye. It was beautiful. So that's just how I picture her spending her off time. Just covered in gold, just being amazing. Yeah. And the show, I think, again, for me as a man, it was a way to talk about domestic abuse and things like that in a way that was very moving. And it wasn't just sort of like, you know, the typical portrayals in TV shows of like

an abused husband is like he smacks a woman and yells and like that's sort of it. It like sort of ends with the sort of physical altercation and not really talking about the mental trauma or the other dimensions of it. Right. And I think that was an excitement to it. Yeah. Like all that stuff. Yeah.

That they just sort of it painted it in such a way that I think, you know, was very moving. So I think, again, just as a feat of TV making, very, very good. Yeah. And then we're going to go through the last three quickly because we're kind of running out of time. Stranger Things 2, you know, it definitely captured the zeitgeist when it came out. Like it was a big deal. It was sort of like, I'd say, comparing it to our music episode, it was like sort of the way Mask Off was, like, the only thing you heard for a couple months. Like, this was, like, the show everyone was talking about for a couple months.

But I don't know. Do you guys, can you think of ways that it, like, captured the year overall? like captured the year overall not necessarily other than those poor kids having to deal with like their new celebrity status and having like weird adults wait out for them and yell at them for not wanting to stop and talk to them right oh you mean like outside of the show rather than like the content of the show itself yeah also uh i thought like how did millie bobby brown like age like 19 years quick in between seasons? Like she looks so different. Yeah.

It's just funny to watch these kids like grow up very quickly because they're at that age, too, where like your face is like is not the same six months. Oh, yeah. Right. Or whatever. But I guess in terms of capturing the zeitgeist, I mean, sometimes I feel like we're living in the fucking upside down. Right. Yeah. And I feel like we're all aging like presidents like we're all aging too fast

because of how stressful the world is uh we're aging like presidents and he's aging like a normal person yeah that's that's what i was saying he doesn't feel like he's dealing with any stress he's just like okay she's like do you believe how much mcdonald's they let me eat uh and then uh last two riverdale and the Crown I never saw Riverdale uh those kids seem to like it though them kids seem to like it uh I've seen a few episodes it's I didn't realize it was based off Archie so like oh yeah when I started hearing them call each other characters names on some like I'm like wait what is this fucking Archie and Josie and the Pussycats or Jughead yeah Jughead, Zack Yeah. Jughead, Zack, and Cody. It was very popular.

Did it capture the zeitgeist? That's it. Bringing retro shit back to the future? Maybe. Nah. Not for me. All right. So I'm going to do a drum roll, and then on three, we're all going to say what we think

our show of the year was. Ready? One, two, three. Big Little Lies. Rick and Morty. Whoa. Wow. The council hasies. Whoa. Wow. The council has spoken.

Has it. But Rick and Morty comes in second, and Anna looks confused. Anna, did you like Big Little Lies? Yes. All right. All right. That was not me doing an impression either. All right.

That's going to do it for our Geisty for Movie and TV Show of the Year. Ify, where can people follow you? You can catch your boy at IfyWideyway, I-F-Y-N-W-A-D-I-W-E, on Twitter and Instagram. And If Deez, I-F-D-E-E-Z, on the Twitch. Let's get it in. Miles, where can people follow you? You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. And again, guys guys this is just

Our thoughts on it so don't come for me This is vacation time This is an invitation for you guys To share your thoughts but don't share them As in you fucking idiots Cause I don't have time I'm already dealing Trying to install these Christmas gifts I got the one thing that I got

Install these Christmas gifts What did you get man? It was a light fixture It was the one thing that I got. Install these Christmas gifts. You get them, man. Well, it was a light fixture. So this is one I wanted, though. Cool. Don't worry about that. Anyway, worry about your own presents. And, you know, enjoy your break, too.

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