The Daily Zeitgeist - The GOP's Ugly Divorce, Lohan Saves Christmas 11.14.22

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

In episode 1372, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, poet, and host of In Your Hands, Lizzy Cooperman, to discuss… Knives Are Out for Trump--But Like…It’s Too Late You Bunch of Dorks, Tale Of Two Elections, Trump seems to REALLY not like Ron DeSantis, Lindsay Lohan’s Christmas Movie is All About Lindsay Lohan and more! 8 Lessons From the Midterm Elections Looking Back at Who Was Right About This Weird Election Lindsay Lohan’s Christmas Movie is All About Lindsay Lohan Lindsay Lohan’s ‘Falling for Christmas’ Is the ‘Citizen Kane’ of Netflix Christmas Movies Lindsay Lohan on Her Netflix Movie Comeback: “Acting Is Like Riding a Bicycle” Lindsay Lohan's 'Falling for Christmas' has 'Mean Girls' nod, Jonathan Bennett's approval Twitter Thread of Surreal Videos. LISTEN: Telephone Song by P'CockSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Susan 26 263 episode one of your daily zeitgeist it's a mess already it's also a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into susan's shared consciousness with the rest of america we all we all share consciousness don't we folks yeah it It is Monday, November 14th, 2022. What are we looking at?

November 14th, National Seatbelt Day. Shout out to Ralph Nader. National Family PJ Day. World Diabetes Day. National Spicy Guacamole Day. National Pickle Day. Make that insulin free, y'allall what the fuck was that

did you see that eli lilly tweet no that they oh on twitter somebody made a verified a fake and they're like we realized like yeah uh but from this point forward insulin will be free of charge and then like their stock like went down a couple percent uh percent on the heels of that. Not nothing significant, but it definitely shifted their stock price, it seemed like. The stock market is evil. We've been seeing that when Meta fired half their staff. They were like, it shot through the roof, their stock price. Yeah. But anyway, yeah, make insulin free.

What the fuck is this? Make insulin free. What was the pickle day? What was the first one? Spicy whack-a-mole. Seatbelt. Seatbelt. Family PJ.

Shout out to the seatbelt. I feel like that's one of those underrated changes that happened in the last hundred years. We just used to be riding loose like bouncing around in the car and you know a lot lots of lots of lives unsafe at any speed y'all anyways my name's jack o'brien aka oz cries cuz he won't be moving in can't't beat John Fetterman. He dreams of power. He dreamed in red. Can't beat John Fetterman.

That is courtesy of Gerald Rice. Jerry Rice. Good old Jerry. Yeah. I was not confident. I woke up with Poland in my head by Lil Yachty and haven't been able to get it out.

So it took all of my willpower to not sing that in the Poland, to the tune of Poland. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray. Guess who can figure out how to use Poland in the AKA I might as well be the Republicans Because

I took a loss On polling Okay Anyway Shout out to them Figured that out Right at the death I was like

Wait where's the instrumental I took the loss It's hard to really get in that, get in your voice changer mode. Yeah, yeah. Voice changer voice? Whatever. Anyway. Yeah, get that register.

Hit it. Good to be here. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny stand-up comedian, writer, poet, who you know from such places as TV, The Harvard Review, and her amazing podcast, In Your Hands. It's one of our new favorite guests on this show. It is the hilarious and talented Lizzie Cooperman! Oh my God, I lost my voice just saying your name. Thank you.

What's up, Lizzie? Thank you. Yeah, welcome back. Welcome back. Thank you. It's nothing short of a thrill to be here. Oh, wow. You honor us.

You honor us with such a description. What sort of adventures have your listeners been taking you on? Oh, my God. It has been truly wild. I'm trying to even think of where we left off. I was supposed to take the first job that I got on Craigslist gig section. Okay. I applied to be a hair model.

I have very long hair. And I said, I'll be a hair model for this fledgling beautician or stylist who wants to try, you know, the pixie cut. Oh, my God. You were about to let this person hit you with the pixie? If they responded first, I was going to let them hit you with a pixie? If they responded first, I would have let them hit me with a pixie. Wow, Lizzie. I applied to work as a Halloween performer on someone's front lawn. They specified you had to be fun spooky.

So I was trying to figure out where is the line? Was there an audition? Not like disturbing spooky. Right, just don't go up to people and be like, I killed your brother. Yeah. That's regular spooky. Yeah. Going up to a little kid like, Earth won't be here when you're my age.

Oh, my. That's so true. Please, please. Don't. Oh, what? Not now. Just telling the truth to children. Yeah, exactly.

That's so funny. Like the adult Greta Thunberg. Yeah. Right. Yeah, exactly. Like the adult Greta Thunberg. Yeah. There was a house off the street from me that did a climate-based Halloween-themed decoration, which I was like, yeah, hell yeah. And then they also had a Rick Caruso yard sign. Rick Caruso, the billionaire mall magnate who's supposed to uh you know solve all of la's problems we still don't know the results of that he's making it snow at the grove right all right lizzie we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're

gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. Knives out for Trump. People are mad. They don't realize it's too late for them. It's that he's already infected the Republican Party. They can't back off. He's still beating DeSantis by like 30 points in a head-to-head poll for the presidential election. So we're just going to sit back and look at that and eat popcorn because he's mad at Ron DeSantis.

So we'll look at that. We'll look at how the election is being covered in the mainstream media versus a non-mainstream paper like Jacobin. And there's some very clear learnings from the election, and the New York Times ain't picking them up. So we'll talk about that. And of course, Lindsay Lohan has a Christmas movie coming out. So we're going to talk about that.

Oh, thank God. I'm ready for Christmas movies. I don't give a fuck if Thanksgiving hasn't come yet. I already watched one on Hallmark last week. Really? Yeah. Which one did you see? It was one that had, what's her name?

Carla Gugino. What's her name? Was that her? Yeah, Carla Gugino. What's the other one from Big Little Lies? Laura Dern. It was one from like 16 years laura durn it was like it was one from like 16 years ago this the cast was fucking stacked i was like yo i'm gonna check this out

it was actually not bad i'm sorry laura durn is the other one from big little lies to you sir i mean uh i you know i said maybe i meant one of them. But yes, I think the other one, because I know I could say Reese Witherspoon first. And I think that's just where I went. Whatever. I don't care. You can come at me. But guess what? Laura Dern.

We're on good terms. One of our greatest. Yeah, yeah. But that's what's wild is in this Christmas movie, Laura D playing this like mother who like can't get her act together. And like Carla Gugino is having to take care of her child. And like, there's like these like really heavy acting scenes, like,

like Laura Dern at this hospital. You're like, yo Hallmark. I was ready for just like Dern in a Hallmark movie. Uh, I don't know. This was 1999. It was called a season for miracles.

Oh, I thought you said it was six years ago. No, I said something like 16 years ago or so. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. 19, 1999. It was called A Season for Miracles. Oh, I thought you said it was six years ago. No, I said something like 16 years ago or something. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. 1999. Can I recommend one too? Yeah, please. And this is just so you can watch this and point out the scene-to-scene inconsistencies in this film.

It's beyond Starbucks Cup and Game of Thrones, what happens in this Christmas movie. What's in this Christmas movie? What's it called? Well, the title has changed. And I think they were probably like, look, things aren't working. They even changed the title? From one scene to the next.

Right. It was called Married by Christmas. And then they were like, okay, some things, you know, people aren't drawn to this title. So they changed it to the engagement clause. The engagement clause the engagement and that really bothers me because i feel like that's a thing where when people screenwriters were like oh clause right right yes like hallmark writers were just clause so it's a play on the word of a play on words in another movie title yes exactly but i strongly recommend watching this because it looks like there was some kind of art department emergency in this film because

the protagonist is supposed to work for like some vague food company and her office looks like a blank room with like a photograph of a piece of broccoli behind her like it's so like we never said we had a budget that's amazing again made by marvista marvista makes all the fucking like goaded terrible holiday films that's usually like i always have to check them out oh it's a marvista hit okay it's like the death row records of christmas movies wow yeah miles is a connoisseur i don't know if oh my god yo i pitched them a fucking movie and they didn't yeah not the biggest mistake they ever made they weren't fucking with it yeah all right before we get to any of that shit lizzie we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history? Okay, so I'm on an old computer

today because my computer crashed. It's coming back today from Apple. It's coming back from the dead. So the last search on this computer I'm using, which is the equivalent of maybe a calculator from 1982. This is an Asus Chromebook where the button requires, you know, every button requires kind of brute force on this computer. The last search here was Kathy Smith meet and greet. And that was actually something for my podcast where I was going to use this as an option because they've been voting what I do with my life every week. They're crowdsourcing my life. Kathy Smith is a woman who conducts casting quote-unquote meeting greets at the scientology center every week um meeting greet is casting casting yeah so it's

like an casting or like acting showcase or workshop that happens at the Scientology Celebrity Center. Interesting. Yeah. That's where they take your money, then throw your headshot into a recycling bin. Right. Or, I mean, and then get you on your way to spending money with them, huh? Exactly. Exactly.

They're probably like, you're just not confident enough. Hold on to these cans. Right. We'll see what we can tell you about you. Yeah. Now tell us all your darkest secrets. Yeah, exactly. Write them down.

Every single one. Like shit you would never tell anybody or want anyone to know. That's how you get into Hollywood. Right. Okay. Right, right. Well, I looked her up on IMDb. There are several Kathy Smiths, which I feel like before anyone gives birth, they need

to look. They need to go on IMDb and make sure. Because Samuel L. Jackson actually didn't always go by Samuel L. Jackson. Right. He had to add the L. Was he just Sam Jackson at first? Yeah, I think so. Okay.

That makes sense. I thought he was like, no, he used to be Richard Caruso Jackson. Yeah. Do a quick SEO check on your baby name your baby name you know yeah also get the i mean or if you wanted to be obscure you know just make sure it's a just tell people it's the name it's like yeah this is my kid john smith yeah yeah yeah that's true that's the name no but i'm not gonna tell you because it's secret yeah maybe that's scientology's whole strategy is like i mean they're good at getting things buried in search results so maybe they're like yeah maybe

we don't want we don't we don't want internet sleuths like brought coming to coming to our like that that that would probably not be the best prospect for scientology right although you think that david Miscavige would maybe change his name because that's a pretty unique name. Oh, my God. If you marry him, are you Miss Cabbage? You're Mrs. Miscavige. I know that's nothing like his actual name. I just well, and then also which is wild, too, because they say like his wife has been disappeared by Scientology. Yeah. If you marry him, you go missing is actually what. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah.

If you marry him, you go missing is actually what. Yeah. That's right. Oh, my God. Well, so this woman, I guess, supposedly discovered Mila Kunis. That's in her bio. But discovered can mean a lot of different things. Right. Yeah.

I just found out about her. Right. She's a really good actress. I dated somebody who was from Iowa, and her mom always claimed that she discovered Ashton Kutcher in Iowa. And I was like, what does that mean? And then it actually turns out her mom was like running some kind of modeling agency and like pulled up on him at a mall. Like, fam, you can model like yesterday. And he's like, really?

And then boom, gone. It's like, I did that. But there's also people who are like i was the first person to realize that person was good i discovered them it's like well that's that's a little bit of a tenuous claim but okay when she discovered him was he freelance punking people just like no just cruising them all just cruising them all you know like honestly like all those stories about like people were like i was just walking through the mall and someone came up to me. But this person wasn't like on some bullshit. I used to do a joke about how when Biden was looking for a vice president, all the articles made it sound like he was scouting for them at a shopping mall.

It would be like the articles would be like Stacey Abrams really caught his eye. You know, like he walked up to her at Azara and like. Right. Excuse me. Have you thought of a presidential run? Right, right. Go home, talk to your mom. See if she's okay with it. And I've done this before. I've been in the industry for decades.

You can look my name up. I'm exactly who I say I am. What's something you think is overrated? Okay, I have to, I'm so thrilled to be finally talking about this i'm getting sick of people calling themselves a monster when people go i'm sorry i'm such a monster i actually feel like it's really do you know what i like i feel like it's actually bad for women because at least in circles that i'm in sometimes, like I'll go to someone's house and it'll be something that's truly imperceptible.

Like maybe a dish towel on the counter. Oh, I'm a monster. Like, Oh, I forgot to shave my legs for the barbecue. I'm a monster. And it just,

it makes me feel like, what am I a murderer? Like, I don't want to talk about any of these things. Right. So I feel like it puts an expectation on everybody to have these, I don't know, priority. Like, if your place looks any, any less impeccable than like a CB2 catalog, it's, it's unforgivable. Yeah.

Right, right, right. catalog it's it's unforgivable yeah right right right although i i feel like when i hear it too like some of my like friends will use it very intentionally like just as like an offhanded thing and be like oh shit like i forgot to get more like mustard at the store i'm a fucking monster and i'm like ha ha ha but i know you're talking too, where people are earnestly like apologizing, like that's not monstrous behavior, but. Right. OK. You know. Yeah.

Yeah. Like not spraying the pan with olive oil is not. It doesn't warrant that to me. Right, right, right. You know, that's a human error or a lapse in short term memory. an error or a lapse in short-term memory when would you is there a word you would swap because people want to use that same sort of sequence of of words after would you such a piece of shit is that okay that works is that too no yeah i'm fucking useless and me when like the sarcasm like bleeds into oh no we're hearing some inner. Right. I don't even want to be here anymore.

What? That's really interesting. I feel like there should be a replacement for that. Definitely. But yeah, is it meant to be like, you want to say monster because it really isn't monster, but then you can also acknowledge like I would have done better. At the end of the day, I'm like, leave your fucking kitchen towels wherever you got to. Yes.

I feel like that's what it is, is I want people to just be okay with the mess yeah right right and not feel like wiping the stove has to be number one yeah well i think that it definitely reveals like how some people are and also reveals like then i'm very quick to reveal that and i'm like oh man you see my fucking kitchen right like it's what i would say back to say like oh no i'm worse yeah actually i'm the monster welcome motherfucker like if i go to a friend's house and she says i killed my husband i'll go okay you got it but actually let's find out why you killed your husband because right oh well justified isn't that the same thing i said where i was like i i applied to be a halloween monster yeah there you go then you could have finally used it right i still think about just that process of like people who because like jamie loftus also uh during halloween like went to go work as like a

scaracter at like a haunted hayride yeah and i just think of like what i would love to see a very earnest audition process for that. Like where like if it's like a dance audition, like, all right, line up, y'all. First, I know some of y'all know modern ballet or whatever, but we're doing mostly monster movements. So let's see violent, scary movements go. And you're a skeleton. Six, seven, eight miles. Those videos are out there.

The audition tapes are out there. We're like, like very basic monster moving? Yeah, my friend Roz was like, I love watching them. Like people jerking around, but just in normal street clothes, like trying to get the role of a zombie and stuff. What did I say? Zombie auditions? Right. What's something you think is underrated, Lizzie?

Okay, we're talking simple pleasures here okay and i think about this every time i get in my car prescription sunglasses okay do either of you wear glasses i have that i tell them one eye and i just never wear my glasses i got lasik so like yeah miles in one eye is like a super villain like i know right it's gonna start drifting yeah that's it that is how you get like your vision just shuts off like yes like so my left eye is fucked up and i have noticed myself be a little cockeyed from time to time just relying on one a little more yeah i think I just rely on my right eye. Which does have x-ray vision, so.

It is, yeah. That's a little spooky. My friend Andy Ritchie used to have a joke about that, and he's like, just look at Mr. Peanut. Like, any character with a monocle is just. Right. Why not? Wait, so you, how bad is your prescription? How bad is your vision?

Mine is so bad, and it's been this way since seventh grade. I remember in human sexuality class, I couldn't see the chalkboard. Oh no. I'm like, I can't see the penis. That was the first time you realized you had bad vision. You're like, I finally want to see what's up there. He's like, I was drawing a micro. I could not see the chalkboard. So yes. So it's been since seventh grade and now it's so bad. It's 2200. So whatever someone else can see at 200 feet would have to be 20 feet in front of me to see. Wow. But for some reason I never had prescription sunglasses until like my early thirties. And before then it was just like, well, if it's sunny out, I'm blind.

Right, right, right. The days when the sun is shining. Yeah, man. 2,200. That's wild. Cause I have 2010 vision. Wow. Oh, okay.

Well, that's nearly perfect. Just want to, yeah. I mean, it's actually beyond perfect. It's actually beyond perfect. It's better. I mean, like he sees things that we that we can only, us mere mortals. I can see the blood coursing through my hand right now. Right.

At the back of my hand. Astronauts can see things at 20 feet, that miles. When astronauts are looking at 20 feet, it looks to miles like it's half that distance. Here's something absolutely insane that i just learned and since thanksgiving is coming up i i feel like i'd be remiss not to mention is that turkeys have better vision than human beings oh no wait what oh no to that you're like oh you just we shouldn't eat you like you have a high thing like well if they see than us, we should not eat them. That's my rule. They can still see you from the oven.

They're just seeing everything. That is always interesting. Human vision, we like to talk about dog vision being bullshit and black and white. Human vision is not the top of the spectrum.

The mantis shrimp, I think, has like. Oh, what? No, Jack, go on. I think it has like 900 times better vision than. It's crazy. Like they can see infrared light. They can see everything. It's wild.

Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Now I got to like be like, what? Okay, animals. Yeah, wow. Jack, you're like just a fact book like, what? Okay, animals. Wow. Jack, you're like just a fact book right there. First thing, mantis shrimp.

Okay. That is so wild. 12 channels of color and can detect UV and polarize light. I also found out that wild turkeys sleep in the trees. What? I've seen that. You have? I saw like a thing where there were turkeys in a tree and people were like, what the fuck is that? And like, they're sleeping.

And I was like, what? They're asleep. Yeah. That's smart. Right. Must be, right? At least they have a bed frame. You know how some people are like, I won't sleep with someone who doesn't have a bed frame.

Right. Turkey's your hall pass. Well, I just found a clip of uh six flag zombie auditions 2015 from new jersey oh yeah just just to kind of get an idea of what kind of movements we're seeing here oh man this guy said i'd like to thank you guys the instructor has real like gym teacher energy too he just said this first exercise we're gonna do is just to get you out of your comfort zone a The instructor has real gym teacher energy, too. He just said, this first exercise we're going to do is just to get you out of your comfort zone a little bit.

Is this a level one improv class? Yeah. But as taught by a middle school football coach? Hello, my name is, and after that, I'm going to have you scream your favorite ride here. Okay, so this audition is they're going to introduce themselves, say their name, and scream at the top of their lungs what their favorite ride here okay so this audition is they're going to introduce themselves say their name and scream at the top of their lungs what their favorite ride is my name is bethany and my favorite ride here is bizarro oh okay about that a little more bethany that's not gonna work for us my favorite ride is nitro okay y'all are a little bit of physicality there is nitro okay y'all are a little bit of physicality there good afternoon fellow blood donors my name is tessa burlow and my favorite ride is houdini's great escape oh okay okay she held it that's why

yeah hi my name is ashley williams and my favorite ride is kick the car wait are they screaming? And like, it's just getting out? I don't know, are those screams? Look, whatever. That's why we don't run these zombie auditions. But okay, thank you, Lizzie, for pointing me in a direction

because now I'm going to get high and watch way too many of these. It's over for Miles. I'm like critiquing. I'm like, y'all, I have seen some things. I have worked with Miles long enough to know that for the next week, I better not text him any questions. He's just going to be watching those videos.

I'm watching my fucking zombie auditions, man. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films

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And we're back. And knives are out for Trump and the Republican Party. Yeah. They're just looking for, they're like, well, it can't be our politics that people rejected. Right.

So what do we do here? What do we... It's him, right? Who do we get mad at? It's him. Right now, they're choosing the one person that they absolutely can't get rid of. I'm sure that...

I have to assume this is a this is a passing fad. As soon as they look at the numbers again, they'll be like, oh, wait, all our voters are Trump guy. But the problem is, right, this is like the one time where they absolutely need to find something different, because with Trump at the ticket, it's been consecutive elections where they're just losing. Yeah. Like it's it's been a downward trend every since 2016 and like but it's funny like they always there there's a lot of outrage from like mainstream republican figures but like each time there's some shit like this the ukraine call meddling with the doj attempted election theft there are always like a few more republicans are

like oh i wouldn't do that but then they don't do anything they get too scared and next thing you know they realize oh that's right this dude is my daddy now and last week a lot of the media outlets on the right came for him in the national review uh the headline was trump is a bust for republicans oh okay OK. And then going to Rupert Murdoch. What's he doing over there? Well, most of the channels are like, I don't know about this guy on The New York Post. The cover on Thursday showed Trump as Trump D dumpty Don who couldn't build a wall, had a great fall. Can all the GOP's men put the party back together again? And they're all kind of getting they're all using Trump as this excuse.

They let them run that entire title. That's so long. I'm so impressed. Yeah, I mean, it's the New York Post. Like, whenever it's, like, pun-filled, they're like, man, fuck whatever. Both of the standards are. Get that pun in there. But, you know, like, they kind of tried to stop him in 2016.

Like, where they first were like, this guy's going to be bad only to just realize like that them constantly feeding the base like nativist bullshit in the eight years prior is like what made Trump absolutely irresistible to their voters. every single fuck up because they really saw this guy as like the way to like that thing we talked about last week with nick fuentes like this one right-wing extremist i'm like we just need a dictatorship man doesn't matter how many more of them that there are than us well we think we need to get them to get in line with like our rules and that's it many people saw trump as being like oh this guy can just get this like if we just stay just stay behind him, we might get to that place. So it's just kind of like, I don't know if there's really like, we always say there's no hypocrisy with like the the base or the politicians on the right, because, you know, like they know that this is all about just getting to the end game of just own the libs fully and just having just give us absolute power and we'll look away at every single thing.

But I don't know. It's just there. They keep trying to do this thing where they act like, Oh, here we go. They're going to dump them. But they've already like the toothpaste is out the tube. Yeah.

Yeah. But they, I mean, people were pointing out the, the New York post has turned on Trump before and everyone's been like, it's the end for Trump. And then someone's like, actually, we all said that four years ago. Like this is y'all do this all the time. This is like the McRib.

Exactly. Yeah. You didn't want him in the first place. you didn't want him in the first place like the mainstream of the party didn't want him in the first place and were supporting jeb bush and other you know establishment tickets and then they realized quickly when the primary started that they couldn't beat him and so they go they go back to it it's just there there's not a great option i mean desantis seems to be the option that the like they're maybe their best option their best alternative to this point but i i can't picture a version of this playing out where desantis beats trump he's just too much

more entertaining and there is he's a person who has a death cult like we haven't had that ever like a large-scale death cult in america like that's it's pretty wild but yeah it's like but how do you get but they kind of maxed out their membership on the death cult yeah now they're like fuck if this is the best we can do and gerrymandering is like only barely getting us like to even footing then what because i think that's the thing that a lot of you know like the consultant and strategy class of the party you're thinking about like i don't know how the fuck you're gonna win like like you can only do so much without trying to figure out maybe someone else energizes more people to come back and we'll see what happens

but i think the thing that really set trump off especially last week because he lost it like really in an interesting way the new york post i think on friday posted this headline with him and his family after he won re-election it says the future on the future ron the future yes ron the Ron Da Future Yes, Ron Da Future Okay, mask off And he's also mask off like Future With his racism and just heinousness But Donald Trump went out And then got on Truth Social

And like email blasted everybody Talking about how like I made this motherfucker When he said he was dying in the polls I endorsed him Then he said this This is really interesting Quote I was all in for Ron And he beat Gill was dying in the polls, I endorsed him. Then he said this. This is really interesting.

Quote, I was all in for Ron and he beat Gillum. But after the race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt election process in Broward County and Ron was going down 10,000 votes a day, along with now Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. attorneys and the ballot theft immediately ended. Just prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win, I this election from being stolen hold on sir what you said who the u.s attorney to do what now a lot of people are like is this for real did he really was he already fucking with the like these midterms in 2018 i think a lot of people are like it most likely is a reference to when then Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi like took into like listen to some bullshit claims was looking into some shit about voter fraud and they didn't find shit and they kept it moving. Because I think most people have noticed we usually have here most of the shit that happens like in real time with this guy. It just depends on how much of it gets reported or not. And not many people found anything that

seemed consistent with what he just said. But again, I think shows his level of like, he's really doing like, I made you! Is the vibe right now. The only reason he's in power is because I committed crimes to get him there. It's like, yo!

Easy! But that's what's so good about having the republicans tied to somebody who is any anytime he's under attack or like any something that he perceives as humiliating which is almost everything because that's just like how his brain works like anytime that's happening he is like a person who's drowning and just pulling everyone in with him just like fuck you i'm like and we'll keep doing that until he's on a pile of bodies like just it's like watching a magician bomb yeah you did not see me switch the quarter into my other hand wait we did we did what the fuck man that

wasn't magic oh okay what about this oh this guy like this guy was loving it a minute ago yeah you want to get me the coin so yeah ask him what happened he set me up actually motherfucker get up here let's all boo him what but yeah i i think then he went on and came after the governor, Glenn Youngkin, and was like being like, I don't know, maybe he's Asian. It sounds Asian to me. What kind of last name is Youngkin? Like, that's the I'm not joking. That was the level of shit talking he was at today was just being like, this dude's last name sounds Asian. This is what he said young kid and

parenthetical now that's an interesting take sounds chinese doesn't it what are you doing i think we should just isolate the side that lizzie just had and that should be our only analysis of it's giving me a panic like the idea of going back to it gives me a panic attack well this is the thing right i think most people have seen all these MAGA candidates that were running to be elected the ones that were re-elected is one thing but the people who are trying to unseat incumbents incumbents were not fucking winning right and that's a big thing that they're like dude the MAGA shit is not as potent as it used to be and i think that's that's a big thing that they're like, dude, the MAGA shit is not as potent as it used to be. And I think that's that's the one thing that I will take as an indication of perhaps his stock somewhat dwindling. Is that like it just like they wasn't quite getting over the line with some of these extremists.

Like at a certain point, some people were like, yeah, like Donald Trump's like, but also like a lot of this shit is doesn't sound like solution based at all. It sounds like, you you know let's just restrict people's access to like health care or privatize social security and things like that so i don't know but you'd feel like if there was that sort of same energy behind it that would have been borne out a little bit in the election results so i think it's just merely like because the brand is just so it's just not as it's losing its appeal somewhat yeah i feel like it's very muddy like like you said it's on the one hand it does seem like the maggie candidates didn't do well and but like all of the analysis of the midterm elections and like them being the opposite

of what was predicted by the mainstream media a lot of it is like well there is a candidate quality issue and trump maybe like trump's appeal may be dwindling but like that's hard to prove because he wasn't like on the ticket you know like he wasn't no nobody was actually voting for him and so it just muddies what seems like there are some very straightforward like policy takeaways that should be the thing that every media outlet is pointing out, pointing to. And but but they are these like straightforward policy takeaways that don't work with the mainstream narrative because they're too simple and straightforward. with the mainstream narrative because they're too simple and straightforward and like it does feel like this moment feels yeah go ahead i was just gonna say i love that the idea of a candidate quality check for republicans like what that would be like right right is there a crease in your dockers yes all right check their teeth and gum line right okay like a horse like okay good right

but this moment just feels very clarifying to me like it feels like you know there's a bunch of progressive energy at the like from voters that is laid bare in an election that the mainstream media was kind of distracted into thinking was going in a different direction so they didn't really have their messaging ready for like what was going to happen if there was this kind of progressive energy that turned out. And instead of like covering the progressive policies that are resonating with people that have resonated with people for a long time, they're just like muddying everything with this like, are people tired of trump like what's trump gonna say like just this like personality contest this like sports media bullshit take of just like

who's got the better like who's the better horse essentially the new york times literally like the day after the election was like all right here's who we like for the Democratic presidency. If Biden drops out, right, you'll be shocked to know the people they liked. Harris, Buttigieg were like all the mainstream centrist Democrats and the people they weren't feeling like literally there was a category that was like, here's who to here's who we like. And then a category. I'm just not feeling it and it was like the first two were bernie sanders and aoc were like number one and two of like just not feeling just not feeling it folks one's too old one's too young jb pritzker was in the middle

section of that yes right yeah yeah that's why a lot of people are just like just get the just get these big lads out there right yeah the big relatable lads out there to like in the rush belt but there's like a very straightforward story to tell here like that so yeah there has a lot of there has been a lot of support for progressive policies that performed incredibly well and they performed incredibly well in like big elections like Pennsylvania with Shapiro and Fetterman just, you know, running populist thing, but it works. And then there are these more conservative democratic statewide campaigns in North Carolina and Iowa that had, so Fetterman Shapiro both ran ahead of how Joe Biden did in traditionally Republican parts of the state. That's always what Democrats are like. The thing that we got to figure out is how we get those like those blue collar workers to start voting Democrat again.

So they have their answer that that's it. Like just run on populist, progressive economic policies that we we saw that work. And when they didn't do that in statewide campaigns in north carolina and iowa they ran behind joe biden so it's like a very very straightforward lesson and that feels like good news right they have a very clear answer following this election the bad news is they've had a very clear answer before this and ignore the fuck out of it but how do we do economic populism without really affecting the bottom line right of a lot of companies and i think that's the like that's this fucking weird cliff that the democrats are always like standing over they're like i mean it's a winning message when you speak directly to people's lived experiences and say i know you're

getting fucked over by like rising prices and the greed of companies. I know that. Like when you go that route, people are like, wait, what? Yep. And suddenly, like you're saying, like rural counties start going back towards Democrats because they're speaking something that is like very straightforward. Every politician needs to start dressing like Aaron Brockovich. Right. Right. Go door to door. Yeah, why not? I'd love to see that. But I mean, like, that's what's sort of, like, so infuriating is that, like, it's so simple.

It's like you just, you get your hymnal from your donors and then you have to sing the songs that they say. Yeah. Like, you see it with the messaging around inflation. Like, that was supposed to swing the whole election. And it didn't really because people understood like all of the stuff about like, well, Biden giving money to you, the voter, is what caused this pain, this inflation like that. It resonated. So it was like a 50 50 split basically on inflation but it wasn't like the thing that swung the election and by the way the like pre-electoral like analysis that they got was from larry summers who you may remember as the uh president of harvard who was like flying

on the lolita express that we covered when we're talking about how harvard is how cool harvard is yeah it's basically a bastion of wealth protectionism and not liberal intellectualism but anyways like the the big one is just like there are all these very popular progressive policies that we keep seeing like we making abortion illegal is wildly unpopular and that does seem to be the one that the mainstream media is letting in like they're letting that message in that okay the you know what what the extremist republican position and action now on abortion is cost them this election but they're not like covering the fact that like gun control is popular and like voters represented that white

supremacy is unpopular and voters represented that in some places people don't think health care should bankrupt you yeah yeah like that's another wild thing to just i just wanted to talk about all the attacks that teachers were under and like critical race theory and all this culture war bullshit there were a lot of bills that passed that were increasing funding to public schools so despite all that like you weren't like despite me like no we gotta we gotta cut this shit off and privatize everything most people were like no no no we like that take take that more money for them yeah pro-choice measures swept at the ballot box progressives won with ballot measures that support policies like raising the minimum wage and taxing the rich like just everywhere across the country a bunch of like

progressive house candidates won but like aren't being covered summerlee in pennsylvania delia ramirez in illinois there's like a bunch of these greg cassar in texas like uh you know these populist candidates are winning in texas it seems like these are the surprising results that they would cover if they didn't have some other agenda i can't quite put my finger on it right pro collective bargaining measures one legal Legalized cannabis won. Measures for rent control won everywhere. They fucking won in Orange County, Florida. Rent control is popular in Florida.

You think that would be one of the big takeaways. It's like help people because they're being harmed by massive corporations. And like they it's a very straightforward message that they seem to be willfully fucking up at places. Yeah, they are times they are. Because, again, it's a consolidation of our media and everything. And it's all being ran by a very specific kind of person in a very specific socioeconomic situation with a very specific perspective. And that's, I mean, honestly, that's, that's why like people like candidates who aren't as tethered to like the old school, like political machine of using corporate dollars and things like that are speaking more freely than the ones that are like born from it. And that's, I think that's the balancing act the DNC is also probably going

to look at, too. It's like, dude, you get too many of these populists in here. We're like we're like a couple, you know, Congress is away from like real like actually delivering for people at the expense of like profits. And I think that's what will be interesting, too, because there's a lot of analysis about how there was a lot of success in the suburbs and suburban voters going to Trump. But a lot of suburban voters tend to be like upper middle, middle class and maybe look at the economy way different than these other people. These other voters that the Democrats are also trying to court, which are like like workers, laborers who are like looking at how like the economy is affecting them and have a like maybe a probably a more populist agenda than the people in the suburbs so how are they going to balance all those things and you feel like they're going to probably just shy away from going more populous but i don't know i mean maybe they found a way to be like we can do a little bit of that stuff while still like wreaking and

or generating massive money and not completely just you know kneecapping an industry because we decided people need free medicine or some wacky shit like that does populist just mean like anti-corporate and like humanitarian like like it feels like it's just like yeah i don't i don't know it's it people use populist interchangeably to refer to Trump and then policies of rent control. It's just to appeal to normal people. That's all it is. It's just normal people appeal. So that's all subjective.

AKA politics? Right. But I think with Trump, he was being like, as an outsider in 2016, it was very populist. We got to get these, nobody's making money. These prescription drugs are way too, like, he did. He was talking a lot of that shit. And so, but then got in and was like, I'm broke and I have bills, y'all.

That's why I'm here. I have a friend who, like, works in finance from, like, you know, a friend that I went to school with. And he heard our podcast and was like oh i had no idea you were so populist and i was like what does that mean is that a slur exactly yeah is that i think that is like a slur in that realm right is is like the idea that well you're just saying what people want to hear and it's like well they want to hear it because they're not stupid and it helps them and there are like clear ways that people can help themselves through politics that fucking everyone else is ignoring like in the

mainstream media right yes it really is like that thing where like you're i don't know how to put it like i feel like back in the day like i would i would be wanting to date somebody and then i'll be like all right like you know they they tell me like i'm not happy in the relationship i was like oh that's that's messed up and they what's happening oh they don't do this and i go oh that's that's messed up then you get a call hey man why are you talking shit to me? Like talking shit about me to my girlfriend. I was like, what? Nah, man. I just, they literally just said what was going on

and I agreed. I wasn't generating some other narrative. You're just getting angry at the fact that objectively the situation is not good and someone describing it is somehow now this like underhanded thing rather than for like the parties in power understanding their messages aren't resonating the status quo is absolute violence in death and

that's how most people see it so you come out here talking that same thing they go oh that's death and that's death and destruction yeah that's not solutions like someone who's and i think that's all it is people just want you to come and be like here's the problem here's the solution republicans right now just go here's the fucking problem y'all right yeah it's just wild that the new york times doesn't have a single like they have a columnist who's willing to say fucking everything they have a columnist who's willing to be like being a traditional catholic is actually punk rock and you, like just the wildest shit, like loving the Pope is the most punk rock thing you can do today. And they don't have somebody who's willing to be like, all right. So like Democratic voters like came out in force, voted for Democrats and said that they're really frustrated.

Like in exit polling, they said they're really frustrated with the Democrat, like with Joe Biden. So like there's a clear message here. They vote for, you know, progressive policies and they're frustrated with the existing thing. Like, wouldn't it suggest that like it would make sense for the Democratic Party to like shift to more progressive policies and like being more straightforwardly like helpful to people and humanitarian um they don't have a single columnist who makes that argument it's pretty wild just thinking about how much is brewing in florida right now is does trump still live there oh yeah i think he's i think he refuses to even leave when a tropical storm is coming as of last week. I'll nuke it.

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I was watching her Greek beach show on MTV when that was out. That was a vibe. When was that? It was like three years ago. She had this reality show. She had like a beach club somewhere like in Mykonosos or something like that right uh and it was and she had that like funky accent yes she suddenly developed one like madonna did yes right like a madonna suddenly came out and had a british accent right right right like i'm an extra understanding or like patient willing to allow for people developing accents or just you know any anything that's like maybe pretty wacky also could be like them coping with trauma

like when it comes to child actors i feel like child actors more and more the more evidence we have we're just like man they were probably so fucked over worst way to grow up honestly like i feel like what yeah the like kids i grew up with who are child actors like only like a couple of them i can say are like healthy functioning adults now oh my god just a weird i think a lot of it has to do with just how what your relationship is to your parents too because a lot of people just end up inverting the child parent relationship the second a kid is generating like tv money yeah and then it just begins like okay well what's the next thing what's the next thing and like as a parent telling your fucking 12 year old that like that's way too much pressure and like especially

if they like they know the the funky like there's a funky family situation to begin with. Like, I've just, yeah, it can't be, it's not always the best. I remember with the change in her accent, she was like, I'm studying a lot of languages right now. That's why this is happening. And I love the idea of her like drinking and driving and doing Duolingo all at the same time. So is she using accent, doing accent work in these movies, Jack? Or what do we know? I don't believe so. I think we're back to, at least she's found some center that doesn't require them to cast her as like a British national in the movie.

Because in this movie, you know, first of all, it's a Christmas movie. You know, we're more than one week into November. So I think we can all agree. It's time to tape garbage bags over our windows. And start watching made for TV holiday movies. Oh shit. I was just about to gesture to my garbage bag. Over my window right there.

Hey. That's just good podcasting. Oh I didn't even realize that was a garbage bag. Yep. Because that's how I watch my Christmas movies. There you go. So this one's called Falling for Christmas. It stars Lindsay Lohan.

It is basically overboard but Christmas. Like overboard the Goldie Hawn, Kurt Russell movie. What happens in that one? So in that, Goldie Hawn is on a yacht. She falls overboard she is like a rich heiress and i think falls overboard after after like being really shitty to a laborer who is working on the yacht basically like has a a case of the old drowning that leaves her without her memory she like washes up on shore but can't remember anything and then the laborer like sees that she is missing and go or sees that there's like a

unidentified woman at the hospital and goes and like basically brings her on to be his wife and like lies very very like very easy to right confused with a horror movie plot like you know and also kidnapping her easy to confuse with the plot of muppets take manhattan i don't know if you remember that but kermit hits his head really right before he's supposed to do a starring role on broadway and then he's Miss Piggy has to go looking for him. So it's like a stress dream where you have to like learn all the lines in like one day. Oh my God. Well, he doesn't even know he's an actor.

He ends up going into advertising for a bit. Oh, wow. It's actually a really good movie. He thinks his name is Bill or something like that. It's so funny because I know I've seen it, but all the Muppet films, I just stopped watching in childhood. And as you say, I'm like, wait, this is all coming back to me. I've been to this Manhattan before. Anyways, despite the fact that Lindsay Lohan's character has clearly suffered a serious brain injury, the hospital staff quickly send her off to live with some random dude a ski lodge manager because because he offers which i i guess it's based on anxiety

around our reckless health care system you know where they're like i don't know we need we need the bed you got you don't have to go home but you can't stay here hey but this fucker says you can live with him you've seen this fucker i don't know he said you can go with him though fortunately the stranger is very handsome i think romance ensues but it's it does seem like a bad idea she needs further medical supervision she has a big tv head bandage situation going right and she's forced to stay with a man she doesn't know. It's very similar to Barbarian, the setup for Barbarian,

if you've seen that movie. But it's also being heavily promoted as a comeback and second chance for Lindsay Lohan. And people are trying to make the phrase the Lohan-a-sance happen. Nah, come on. Honestly, Fetch has a better chance of happening than Lil Hannah Sons. Like, honestly, and it may have.

But she's like second chance? She's had like 700,000 chances. Right. It would be amazing. More like turbulent career. Another moment in this up and down career. Right. I remember in Overboard, it was like goldie hawn's character

had like a tattoo of a heart on one of her butt cheeks do you remember that yeah that's right that's like an identifying feature maybe lindsey lohan could have like an ankle monitor right i'm like it was you all along yeah who's the dude playing uh opposite her because like is is overboard like the beginning of the kurt russell goldie hawn relationship thing because weren't they on it were they a bird on a wire together too yeah i think it was after after that and that's why we were fine with the wildly predatory behavior of kurt russell towards goldie hawn because people are like well they really love each other in real life so it's true it's just a story about them finding their you know soul right puller you know so is this our new goldie

and kurt this guy uh whoever this guy i thought it was turtle from entourage based on the screen cap of this yeah the screen cap is not selling me on the handsomeness but i'm sure he's very handsome he also is dressed like he was someone who was at the at the capitol on january 6th right which does seem to be a prerequisite for for hallmark hunk is like was he there january 6th all right we're good could he reasonably be assumed to have been there she wakes up at nancy's desk. Where am I? Oh, you're in my house. But anything look familiar in here?

What is that? The lectern from Congress? Yeah, I was there. A writer, Jan, was pointing out that like it is kind of smart writing because the main character like it is sort of an allegorical version of a lindsey lohan comeback story the main character starts out spoiled and irritating she bonks her head and is given a new identity humbled and reduced to her core essence revealing that she's a good person deep down and there's like that that is also something that's happening in the media. I don't know if this is part of like a PR push or like how much money is being spent on this. There is a BuzzFeed article with the headline.

We really need to talk about Lindsay Lohan. Like she and I didn't add that. Like that's in the headline. Like she is a completely different person than she was a few years ago when she was pulling up on that woman's like give me your baby yes i will take your child in the most ill ill-informed way possible yeah i mean obviously pulling tugging at a child while mother's saying no i don't need your help yeah maybe but so she what what do they say like in the article like she's so different now she like speaks with a different accent now she sounds like she's dominican now. She like speaks with a different accent now. She sounds like she's Dominican. Yeah.

You're going to love it. We'll see. We'll see if there's any momentum here. The article does not do a great job of, you know, laying out a case that she is like a totally different person. It's actually just a lot of images. She takes different things from the mini fridge now. Yeah. Right.

She only steals one robe when she stays at a hotel now. Not all of the towels. She steals one robe. Okay. But I think the idea is, like, in this story, this person who we all deep down suspect, like, we loved her. She was, like, so charming when she was a kid. Like, so it's like she's stripped to her essence by this head injury movie apparently even includes a cover of jingle bell rock sung by lindsey lohan which is a pretty conspicuous nod to mean girls i don't love that yeah that's

you don't need to do all that it's a little much yeah it's like please watch it for this but watch it for this right oh the guy this is some oh some dude from glee is the the love interest cord over street cord wow yeah that's not a clever name so i got the gig on glee yeah you know what i mean but the reviews are fucked up man well all this shit of like new york times falling for christmas review tripped down memory lane they put let's see lindsey low uh let's see is anything else still does not have an alarm clock instead of having a in in the case of overboard the she is abandoned by her wealthy husband i think he knows she's there and he's like oh she looks like a mess in that hospital picture i'm just gonna let her abandon her to the masses essentially and in this one instead of her husband it's a wealthy father

who's the problem i don't know the exact plot machinations, but that also feels like it not. Interesting. You know what? I'm never listening to New York Times because you know what IndieWire said about this movie? What? Lindsay Lohan's Falling for Christmas is the Citizen Kane of Netflix Christmas movies. Thank you. Christmas movies.

Thank you. The Lohan-issance is officially upon us. Complete with self-deprecating jokes and slave fools of physical comedy. Welcome home, Lindsay. So maybe that's what they're trying to say. Add anti-Lohan bias to the list of New York Times biases. Yeah. Now I got to watch.

See, just off the strength of the New York Times saying that and someone else being like, this is the Citizen Kane of Netflix. You can say that. I'm sorry. That's so powerful to say that you can't buy coverage like that. I am curious what her voice sounds like now. Accent aside, I want to know what level

of rasp we're getting. I think we can hear it probably. Should we just play real quick? I can play a little bit of the trailer. We need a special instrument to listen to it like you do to listen to whales. Let me just get my tuning fork. Guys, please put on... This is binaural audio, so please put on both headphones now.

If you're driving, pull over. Pull over. What you're about to hear is not actual police sirens or explosions. It's Lindsay Lohan's fantastic charisma. Oh, first she's doing a thing where she's introducing the trailer. So you want to hear that or you just want to hear the trailer voice? Let's do the introduction. I mean, she's not going to do a totally different.

Here we go. I want you to see it too. Happy holidays, everyone. Christmas has come early this year. That's not. That's Lindsay Lohan. Someone's not smoking as many filterless cigarettes. Yeah.

Okay. I'll buy that. Okay, let's see in the many filterless cigarettes. Yeah. Okay. I'll buy that. Okay, let's see. In the movie now, let's see. Can we get a shot? What if we go to the movie? I just want people to remember me for more than my last name. Ah.

Yeah. That sounds all right. Okay. Okay. All right. I mean... Okay, Lindsay. It's a little rough.

Okay. You know what I want? The Lindsay Lohan white noise machine that's just like. She does have a rasp. She always had a rasp. Always had a rasp. Yeah, yeah. Right, yeah.

She's always had a rasp. Great. It's better than it could have been. And that is what I'm taking away from that. I mean, honestly, I'm not like looking for Lindsay Lohan to lose, you know, so I want like I said, I watch Lohan's Beach Club. And after hearing again, it's the Citizen Kane of Netflix Christmas films. That's now I might like I might be really mad if it's not. What is that even supposed to indicate exactly?

If it's the citizen, like we're just saying it's like the most seminal. It's the fucking is the top. Yeah, well, I think the top of the top of the heap. That's the implication, right? Am I deciphering that correctly? OK, yes, that's the implication. I did fall asleep during it in high school. However, it is critically.

Then I got to the rosebud part. Yeah. Well, Lizzie Cooperman, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? Yes. Find me at Lizzie Cooperman on Instagram. Also, please listen to my podcast. That's destroying my life.

It's called Lizzie Cooperman's in your Hands and the listeners are crowdsourcing my life for me. And I have a website, lizziecooperman.com. And as a result of my podcast, I'm also doing tarot readings now. They voted for me to become a professional tarot reader and I'm loving doing that. So if you'd like a reading, you can go on my website. Also, I'd love to tell people about a show

that I have out of town coming up. Yeah. Yeah. December 9th and 10th. If you are in Eureka, California or in the surrounding area in Humboldt, I'll be at the Savage Henry Comedy Club. Amazing. Nice. Okay. I'd love to see you. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media? Oh, that's right. Oh, okay. Well, I don't know if you guys caught wind of this, but Pizza Hut tweeted something. I like whatever's about to follow. Well, they've got something new. And the name of it is one of my least favorite words in the world.

It's called a melt. The Pizza Hut melt. it's called a melt the pizza hut melt and i kind of loved this thread just because i felt like it wasn't met with the kind of fervent enthusiasm they expected like they were like the melt is here and the whole campaign is like do not like don't you dare post a photo of yourself eating the melt and then no one posted a photo just a couple sad tweets like this is just a folded up piece of pizza i don't know i always i love seeing like you know companies try to be like this is the thing but it's just like a different combination of the same ingredients yeah Yeah. Right. Because they paid a bunch of like art school grads.

Right. Millions of dollars for this idea that they've come up with. Absolutely. Absolutely. And it's not the pizza palooza they would have hoped for. Yeah. Pizza palooza. Also something that someone would probably pay hundreds of millions of dollars for an

ad agency to come up with. Oh, my God. That was actually what I called my birthday in third grade that no one came to. That's so funny. I just came up with it now. Can we do something with it? Parallel thinking. It's really good.

Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. You can find us, Miles and Jack, on miles and Jack on mad boosties. That's our basketball podcast. Yeah. You know, and just go check that out.

Great, great basketball talk. Also, uh, check me out on four 20 day fiance where I talk 90 day fiance, but just so high, uh, people who can handle their weed.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Uh, I've been having Lydia popovich guest host with me uh recently so check in to that one some tweets that i'm i like i don't even really know it's just oh okay it's so funny that on twitter like there's so much like like you know seen on the titanic or like it's been a pleasure playing gentlemen this evening like kind of fucking tweets all the times i'm like oh then i'm like going back to some that i found uh this one titanic or like it's been a pleasure playing gentlemen this evening like kind of fucking tweets all the time so i'm like oh then i'm like going back to some that i found uh this one is

from john lee's tbcom comicsology 134 at john lee's 927 it said i legit had to reread this several times before i realized it wasn't intended to be a conversation between the beta male and the alpha male and it's a quote tweet of this other account this dude's like totally you know chud brain dude it says beta male so where do you want to go alpha male you're going to have the best night of your life i'll see you at 9 p.m wear that tight red dress i love it they're so cute together the beta male and the alpha male

I know it's so funny because even when I read it I kept saying like this is a dialogue every time I looked at it I think that's why so many people were having trouble realizing what it was trying to say the difference between how beta male and alpha male would say the same thing I was like wow you're going to take that beta male out

you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien Between how beta male and alpha male would say the same thing. I was like, why are you telling? Wow, you're going to take that beta male out. Okay. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. And for my tweet, I've been enjoying. This is what it's come to Twitter. I'm just going to link off to something in the footnotes. That is this person, Drew Kaufman is online. Tweeted, train my TikTok algorithm to show videos that are so surreal.

You feel like you're dreaming. Here's a thread of my favorites. And I'll just link off to that because these are great some of them are like works of art that yeah like it does feel like when you go into like one of those video installations at an art museum like all of these would perfectly fit in there yeah dude the one with the guy walking into the foam garage yeah it foam garage yeah and the conor o'malley one is fucking genius the dump truck nachos oh yeah yeah i didn't even realize that was conor o'malley yeah yeah that's conor o'malley's uh tiktok but yeah i think that's one of the first ones in that thread amazing yeah i think it is the first one uh you can find that in the footnotes you can find

us on twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles,

what song do we think people might enjoy? Okay, let's take it to some German prog rock. This is from a group called Peacock. P apostrophe cock or P dot cock. Depends on what streaming service you're using. This track is called Telephone Song. And it's really good.

And if you like Cannes, if you know about that German prog rock band, it's super funky. They do that song vitamin c that a lot of people are like into now it's like a lot of people describe this band as like being like a bit of that but also getting a little more electronic so maybe it's like can on its way to a craft work show uh but this song is like just really awesome to listen to and all their stuff's super cool so if you just like funky music and from back in the day that you're like, was this made now? No, it was not. But this is Bickock with Telephone

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