The Daily Zeitgeist - The Great Gas Stove Freak Out, Pizza Hut Nostalgia Ultra 01.12.23

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

In episode 1400, Jack and Miles are joined by author, TV personality, and host of Alison Rosen is Your New Best Friend and Childish, Alison Rosen, to discuss… The Great Gas Stove Freak-Out Of 2023,... FAA Grounds Flights Because Of A System Error … And Wokeness? Pizza Hut Is Bringing Back A ‘90s Menu Item That Was Once Steeped In Political Controversy and more! The Great Gas Stove Freak-Out Of 2023 US Safety Agency to Consider Ban on Gas Stoves Amid Health Fears Ban Gas Stoves? Just the Idea Gets Some in Washington Boiling. No plans for nationwide ban of gas stoves, CPSC says following report, backlash The New Soilders in Propane's Fight Against Climate Action: Television Stars FAA Grounds Flights Because Of A System Error … And Wokeness? US flights resuming after FAA alert system outage causes disruption ‘Bunch of garbage’: Campaign to ease pilot overload from antiquated safety warnings Pizza Hut Is Bringing Back A ‘90s Menu Item That Was Once Steeped In Political Controversy WHY NOSTALGIA IS ON THE RISE Pizza Hut’s Beloved ’90s Menu Item Has Returned Pizza Hut was once accused of running an attack ad against Hillary Clinton to boost Rudy Giuliani's political career Cookin' With Gas Rap Gas Propaganda Shill part 1 Gas Propaganda Shill part 2 LISTEN: Bad Fruit* by Jean DawsonSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Thursday, January 12th, 2023, which of course means... Woo! National Marzipan Day. pharmacist day shout out to your friend who has the pharmacological degree who gives you lean on the side also national curried chicken day which sounds like a very like colonizer view of like indian food like national curried chicken day the one meal that i'm allowed to... Or even Thai food, whatever.
Starting point is 00:02:26 You can get specific. And then kiss a ginger day. Also seems problematic. Yeah. Like, what do you got to... I mean, was that, like, started by, like, a redheaded man? Probably. You know, what we need is a day where they gotta kiss me.
Starting point is 00:02:41 I don't know. Good work. Harry's PR team is in full swing, you know? Oh, yeah. They're doing the work. I's uh pr team is in full swing you know oh yeah you're doing the work i wonder if he's i wonder if he's posted oh you know what uh it says derrick forgy founded the day in 2009 as an alternative positive celebration of redhead's uniqueness as opposed to another day that could often accelerate into bullying this is that kid who always walks around like kissing everybody on the playground. Just being like... I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:07 You had a kid like that? You didn't have a kid who ran around kissing everybody? Nah. There was a girl in my preschool. There was a little girl I remember in my preschool who did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not saying high school. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I mean, I remember. Yeah, there was the kissy. But there's only one person that really stuck out in my mind is like a little kid anyway i just have a very specific memory of like where i was when i was like dodging that kid anyways shout out to thomas jefferson elementary school i'm thinking shout out to thomas jefferson the kiss. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. the D, the A, the D, the D, the Y, the D, the A, the D is daddy. Hold up is daddy.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Okay. Thank you so much. So many well wishes coming from you. The a.k's Daddy. Oh, okay. Thank you so much. So many well wishes coming from you. The AKAs are inspired. Shout out to Salvador Jolly for bringing back that old Diddy featuring Neptune's beat, AKA. Yes. Countdown to Bert. There's a Neptune song?
Starting point is 00:04:18 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because Pharrell was doing the, hold up, it's Diddy. Anyway. Yeah. You remember that. I remember the beat being very good and diddy that album was not great no no that's that was that that was the time when like a bad boy album only had like like five out of ten tracks were good right well we are thrilled miles to be joining our third seat by a very funny and talented podcaster author tv personality she hosts the podcast allison rosen is your new best friend childish and upworthy weekly it's
Starting point is 00:04:49 allison rosen hello happy new year it's so good to be here there was no one in my school who was super duper kissy unless they just didn't want to kiss me. But I think that I missed out on this pivotal rite of passage. A. B. I'm married to a quasi ginger. He's like more brown than ginger, but still he could like get in on this day. And C. I love marzipan. So this is the right show for me. What? And pharmacists?
Starting point is 00:05:21 You have any pharmacists in your family, friend group? Any pharmacists close to your heart, near and dear? No, but the day is young. Yeah. What, a pharmacist? You have any pharmacists in your family, friend group? Any pharmacists close to your heart, near and dear to you? No, but the day is young. Yeah. Ooh, should I kiss a ginger pharmacist? Yes. Oh, two birds.
Starting point is 00:05:35 There it is. One kiss. That's multitasking. I like to get to know my pharmacist, you know, learn their name, just keep it with the dad vibes. Just really be like hey it's good to have what's happening it's good to have a local pharmacist like i used to always wonder how my mom had sort of ingratiated herself with like there's you know rob at the grocery store who picks out the best fruit for her and like like, she has a, I don't, I've never gotten anything tailored as an adult that I can, well, make my wedding dress.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But like, I don't have a tailor. I don't have a butcher. I don't have, I don't have my like, you know, group of experts that I can lean on. It's all a singularity, you know, just go to some Jeff Bezos owned entity to solve all of those issues. Yeah, Amazon, Amazon has a pharmacy now.
Starting point is 00:06:24 They do everything for you. Seriously. Yeah, we're your best friend. We pick the best food for you. They do everything in a mediocre fashion. You know? Absolutely. We'll do this without the human contact.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Yeah. But I think that's why it's important you go to like a, like if you like a butcher, like a place has a proper butcher in it. Because then they'll like, you can kind of talk to them and they'll give you advice.
Starting point is 00:06:45 But yeah, other than fruit, all I know is like, I'm always like, I always get that like weird self-consciousness when you see people picking a fruit that you've never put. Like I'll go to the farmer's market or some shit. And they're like, Oh man,
Starting point is 00:06:56 these guavas. And I'm like, I don't know how to fucking check if they're ripe. So I just sniff everything. I'm like, mm hmm. Yes. Like trying to see what the other people are doing.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Like, and someone will come up to like, just check the, the, the tenderness. I'm like, Oh trying to see what the other people are doing like and someone will come up to like just check the the tenderness i'm like oh okay i was smelling i know thank you i know that's what you do some fruit is so intimidating it's for expert level fruit yeah oh yeah is dragon fruit one of those i feel like dragon fruit can yeah i don't even i don't even know what dragon fruit looks like in its on I don't even know what dragon fruit looks like in its... I don't even know
Starting point is 00:07:28 what it looks like in any... No, wait, I do. It looks... Yeah, it's got the red with the green flames coming off of it, basically. Yeah. It looks like a dragon egg.
Starting point is 00:07:36 And when it's cut, it's white and speckled and has no flavor, I think. Or it has a subtle flavor. Well, there's actually... There's a purple one that is super sweet. And the white Or has like a subtle flavor. Well, there's actually, there's a purple one that is super sweet and the white one
Starting point is 00:07:47 has a sweetness to it. It's very like watery. I didn't know I was talking to Mr. Dragon Fruit over here. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I'm proud. I don't know if you could tell. I'm proud of the fact
Starting point is 00:07:58 that I've become a dragon fruit connoisseur. I've had dragon fruit. Where did you... I've had it. Where did you accrue this knowledge? My wife is a real fruity.
Starting point is 00:08:09 She's real into fruit. And so she takes me up a level when it comes to, you know, all the more exotic fruits. I don't think I had had mango before we started dating. And yeah, that's how. It was just apples and bananas and oranges, orange slices for my whole life. Just real basic ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Mediocrity in my fruit game up to that point. What's her, your fruit fluencer wife, what's her favorite fruit? I think mango is probably her favorite fruit, but she's, she does, she does appreciate a good dragon fruit.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Anything but... She claims that she's allergic to cantaloupe and honeydew because... Oh, really? What about homie melon? She likes that. I love homie melon. Yeah, that's good. But she says that because when you get a fruit salad, they love to fill it up with a cantaloupe.
Starting point is 00:09:07 It's like what kale used to be in a 90s salad bar. Right. Yeah. We're just blowing this shit out visually. Just eat around it. Yeah. Right. Is it garnish or is it lettuce?
Starting point is 00:09:19 I don't know. That's right. All right, Allison, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the great gas stove freak out of 2023. The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission casually mentioned the possibility of a ban on gas stoves and the GOP freaked the fuck out. and the GOP freaked the fuck out. But then, I don't know, they came back. They were like, sorry, no, we're not going to ban anything. We don't have the standing to ban anything. But then maybe they should ban gas stoves.
Starting point is 00:09:51 It turns out gas stoves are bad, unfortunately. So we're going to talk about that. I've chained myself to my gas stove, and I'm doing this podcast from my kitchen. Yeah. With the burners on, but they're not lit. That's right. I just love the smell
Starting point is 00:10:05 that's right it smells like backdraft the ride the fa grounded some flights because of a system error like all flights basically was the most flights that had just been pulled out of the air and kept out of the air since 9-11 i believe and so we're going to talk about that because that also got politicized, as did the Powerball lotto somehow. So we're just going to talk about these stories that are full of information that could be relevant to you, but that you have to squint through a smokescreen
Starting point is 00:10:37 of right-wing outrage and what side are you on on this one? It's like, I don't know. Were you on the Powerball debate? Yeah. We're going to talk about Pizza Hut bringing back the 90s with the New Yorker-style pizza.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And take a look back. I remember that. The original ad campaign. Pre-9-11, man. Good days. Yeah. They actually, one of the first ads for it was... I remember the original ad campaign. Pre 9-11, man. Good days. Yeah. They actually like one of the first ads for it was making fun of Hillary Clinton for being a carpetbagger. Basically, it was like a Pizza Hut commercial featured a blonde woman in a pantsuit with a cartoonish southern accent bragging about how she's going to be a new york senator dumb question perhaps but what exactly does carpetbagger mean i always thought of it
Starting point is 00:11:31 as like people who come in and like claim a new home for political purposes political candidate who seeks election in an area where they have no local connections. Oh, right. Like Dr. Oz. Yeah. Right in. Because I think it was in the beginning, it was about reconstruction. Oh, was it? About Northerners pretending to be, like, get in with Southerners.
Starting point is 00:11:56 And so those are the people being like, you carpetbagger. Like, you're not from around here. But why carpetbag? Like, what is a carpet bag? I mean, let's get into it. I mean, I just recently read. I'm sure it's offensive and a term I shouldn't be using. It's, I have to imagine.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Used exclusively in a pejorative term originated from the carpet bags, a form of cheap luggage made from carpet fabric, which many of these newcomers carried. The term came to be associated with opportunism and exploitation by outsiders. The term is now used in the United States to refer to a parachute candidate candidate that is an outsider who runs
Starting point is 00:12:27 for public office in an area without having lived there for more than a short amount of time or without having other significant community ties i mean i would just love luggage made out of a piece of carpet and i feel like i know that point looks it would be expensive or like you can kind of picture like a new carpet tote yeah like a weird drawstring bag that's like carpet. It'd be so, and like is the nap of the carpet on the outside of it? It's gotta be on the outside. It'd be so fun to rub.
Starting point is 00:12:56 It'd be actually funny if it's like, it's just that rough part of the other side of carpet that you're laying down. Well, that's what I was picturing. They said it was a carpet bag. Like I thought it was the bag the carpet came in and it was just like a rough canvas bag
Starting point is 00:13:12 or something. But no, when you look up a carpet bag purse, like now, it's just a purse that looks like a carpet. So, who knew? I want one. I searched how to know what like a hit dog will holler like where that actually came from and it's like about throwing
Starting point is 00:13:31 a rock into a group of dogs oh my god and like the hit dog will holler like the one that you hit like just sort of as this uh metaphor and i was like oh interesting because all we know is that part like a hit dog will holler but it's like a broader thing about you know this seems like a very straightforward one it's like there's no representation it's just like things make sound when you hurt them yeah well the whole thing is like right the person who would be offended most is the one who'll be the loudest or whatever that phrase but it comes from this preacher like this pastor preacher who basically said like there was some proverb which like throw a stone into a crowd of dogs and the hit dog will holler. There you go. And then we all just adopted the short hand.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Before we get to any of that, Allison, what is something from your search history? Well, I don't know if you guys know this about me, but I'm pretty active on Google. So it was hard for me to narrow it down. But I did recently search the Thomas Brothers Guide. I don't know if you guys remember this book of maps that everyone in Southern California had. I was going back and forth with a friend over text, just doing a stupid bit where I was just like naming random items. And I named the Thomas Brothers Guide. And this person is not from Southern California. And then I was thinking, do they even know what I'm talking California. And then I was thinking,
Starting point is 00:14:48 do they even know what I'm talking about? So then I Googled it. First of all, apparently it's the Thomas Guide, not the Thomas Brothers Guide. But my memory was Thomas Brothers Guide. When you said that, I was like, Thomas Brothers? Okay, so maybe that was just like... The Wright Brothers? But it was brothers. They were brothers, but I guess it was... Oh, they were? Yeah, I believe. I think it was like a whole family of Thomas cartographers. And like, if I remember correctly, the dad owned it and then like the two brothers took it over. And then they moved into making English muffins. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yes. It was a lateral move. But anyway, it wasn't just, it was like iconic in Southern California, but not just Southern California. They had him elsewhere and it looks like they still are sort of active. And here's the interesting thing. Actually, it might not be interesting. Here's a here's a factoid. Here's a thing.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Here's a thing. Police are required to keep a Thomas guide in their car. I guess. I don't know. Can you imagine like a cop pulling over to, you know, look in the index for their street name and the Thomas guide and then look it up? I mean, they go in the wrong house every time anyway. So what the fuck is the Thomas guide going to do? But I remember that because when I was a kid, the Thomas guide stayed under the passenger seat in my mom's car.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. Like that's where it was. Because I remember we go to like I had to go to a birthday party, you know, in the early 90s. There was no fucking map quest. There was what's the address? What's the block number? Go on the index of the Thomas guide. Figure out where that block of that street is. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Go to page fucking 46, E17. Line up the grid. You see that. You're like, oh, okay. I got to get there for me. That was like the way I think I guess it's like LA so sprawling like there was no way you could really navigate it without it's got to be the biggest city like in terms of square mileage right like it's just there's oh yeah I mean LA County yeah that is for sure it's so haphazardly designed and yeah it's a mess out there.
Starting point is 00:16:46 So it makes sense. Now that I hear you saying Thomas Guide, that sounds much more correct than Thomas Brothers Guide. I like Thomas Brothers Guide. Yeah, no, I mean, it was wrong, but it was, we went with it. The vibes were good. I guess technically Anchorage might be the largest city by area. Anchorage? Yeah. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:05 Sure. Yeah. Really? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I guess like intricate and big. Sprawling. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's also so many, because it's the second biggest in terms of population, I believe, right? The top four are from Alaska. Or no, Sitka is the largest.
Starting point is 00:17:20 The top four, if we're going by area, are in Alaska. Then it's Kansas, Florida, Montana, Montana, Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Texas, Tennessee, and then you get to Los Angeles. But how many destinations are there that need to be mapped in Anchorage? Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And L.A. is massive, full of people, full of things to go do and see. And there's no other way to get anywhere other than cars.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Except a car right yeah because they ripped up the trolley tracks in the 20s good there were trolley tracks here it had the most extensive like cable electric street car system in the world and they ripped it up because car companies and because gasoline. Gasolina. Wow, I had no idea. Boy, I love carpet bags, LA trolleys, Thomas Guide. This is so fruitful.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Well, we are now the dadly zeitgeist, as somebody pointed out. So this is the sort of shit you're going to learn around here. Miles, did you have a kid or is this a figurehead? About to, about to. You are? Due date is February 3rd.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's my son's birthday. Oh, really? Wow. Okay, we'll see. Maybe he'll be on time or maybe he'll be early and it'll be closer to my mom's birthday. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:18:38 But yeah, I'm just, you know, I'm on watch right now. Wow, congratulations. I had no idea. So much happens since I've been here. Yeah, yeah. I didn't, you know, I'm doing watch right now. Wow, congratulations. I had no idea. So much happens since I've been here. Yeah, yeah. And, you know, I'm doing a daily podcast. There's so many details about your life that people know. Some things you got to just kind of hold on to for yourself a little bit.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Because it's always jarring when people come up. It's like, hey, man, March 7th, your parents just got divorced, huh? I'm like, hey, what the fuck? And I remember I'm like, oh, that's right. I had a weird thing where somebody at, like, I a strip mall with like my kids and somebody we were with. We were there with like my four year old's best friend and his family. And the other dad had said Jack. And then somebody walked by and said Jack to me and then was like, is that little Jack?
Starting point is 00:19:24 somebody walked by and said jack to me and then was like is that little jack and i didn't know if they were a fan of the show or if they were just like weird i could like it was hard to tell but if you are a fan sorry for my confused response but yeah i didn't know that little jack what the fuck what the fuck did you just say i'm sorry man i'm not used to being out in public what is allison something you think is overrated well this goes right kind of into what you guys were just saying i feel that everyone else in their goddamn opinions are overrated first of all all, I personally overrate them. But being someone who has a podcast, occasionally I hear, frequently I hear people's opinions about everything about me and my show. And oh, the way you pronounce that word bothers me. The way you
Starting point is 00:20:18 say this bothers me. And because I do overrate it, then I have to be like, fine, I guess I'll just change the way I do everything to appease you. I have to be like, fine, I guess I'll just change the way I do everything to appease you. So I just feel like in general, people with all their opinions, if they happen to have to do with me and are negative and make me feel bad, no thank you.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Just, you know, they always say, you know, living on the words of others is a double-edged sword, you know, because the compliments can like power you up but if if you really lean on that the criticism will fucking just cut you in half too and i think it's about for me personally like through my life i've tried to get away from that because i'm such a people pleaser that i really do care a lot about what people think and it's more about centering yourself
Starting point is 00:21:03 and everything you do and realizing that the most true living experience you can have is to honor what who you are sincerely and really understand that outside commentary can allow those words to like penetrate into your soul because then you're completely doing yourself a disservice and not treating yourself with the sanctity that you deserve so that is beautiful and i agree and i actually that's sort of i i go back and forth a lot like that's something that for the most like i i have that realization maybe not as eloquently as you put it but i have that realization frequently and then all of a sudden i will find that like oh this these comments bothered me it's weird i
Starting point is 00:21:43 thought i was a little more armored. All that being said, allow me to say, I'm being somewhat facetious. Like, for the most part, I love that people listen and have an opinion. And of course,
Starting point is 00:21:53 I want to hear feedback and all of that stuff. I'm just saying occasionally, I'm like, not today, people. Occasionally, they should consider shutting the fuck up.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Just occasionally. But at the end of the day, you know, it's like like you have no responsibility to be like, oh, I heard that. Yeah. Say whatever the fuck you want. I'm not the same. You know, I'm out of here. I'm just look, live your shit from the inside and let that resonate outside. Don't let the shit.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Don't don't do that shit in reverse. Don't let the outside shit affect your internal state. Oh, that's so good. recently i let your internal resonate out oh i think it was i think it was harry noted ginger was saying that the birthday twin the royal family's policy is like never complain never explain and i was, that's the opposite of my policy. I'm constantly, I'm the most over-explain-y person in the whole world. Right. And I'll complain, too.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Yeah, yeah. It's healthier. Yeah, because the other side of it, you end up writing a book where you just, like, air out every weird thing that's happened to you in your life. And you're like, okay. Yeah. All right. I do want to read it, though. Yeah, I know Anna right now. Yeah, we've been getting updates from Super.
Starting point is 00:23:06 She's got the audio in real time. She's like, Prince Charles wears Dior sausage. And we're like, Dior sausage? And it was a typo because she went to say Dior Sauvage. And when I responded to her and said, I was over here searching Dior sausage, but Dior Sauvage is so perfect. sausage but Dior Sauvage is so perfect but as I was trying to type Sauvage it auto corrected
Starting point is 00:23:28 to sausage like I couldn't get it to it was like no you definitely mean Dior sausage my friend that's amazing what were you envisioning like some kind of high end sausage that he put on his body
Starting point is 00:23:43 he has sausage fingers so I was like I thought this was something yeah but I wasn't What were you envisioning? Like some kind of high-end sausage that he put on his body? He has sausage fingers. So I was like, I thought this was something. Yeah, but I wasn't envisioning sausage that he put on his body. I'm sorry. When I read that text, it fucked me up so bad because like, how do I not know what a Dior sausage is? You got into a car crash. I listen to so much rap and like luxury brands are named. You kind of buy osmosis or kind of up on shit.
Starting point is 00:24:07 I'm like the Dior sausage. Like, is that a food or is that like a piece of jewelry that he keeps on him? Like he got that Dior sausage on him. I have no idea. But what is Dior Sauvage? Is that a line of something? That is the super offensive Johnny Depp cologne. offensive johnny depp cologne it's dior's cologne that they have where like johnny depp is in the ads playing electric guitar around like indigenous peoples like in the desert yeah and no no just
Starting point is 00:24:35 very very running with a wolf or some shit yeah running with a wolf so many scarves like he's just being swallowed by scarves and he's just out there at in the desert with the moon and wolves and indigenous people and heavy-handed nonsense it's it's like a thing that they they doubled down on him being the spokesperson for the product as he was on trial oh wow yeah anyway shout out the sausage, though. Yeah. But the sausage has a great snack. Delicious. What's something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:25:12 I'm going to say it and you're going to be like, what? That's not underrated. But for me, it always has been bathrobes and the robe life, which has chosen me. I have never been a robe person. For me, robes are like something that I'll occasionally put on in a hotel when I get out of the shower and I'll think this is comfortable. And then five minutes later, I'm like, now what? I'm just going to put on my clothes.
Starting point is 00:25:33 But it's been so cold in LA. And in the morning when I get up and get my kids ready for school, I have been like, I think I need to make this mom step and just get a robe and so i've started putting on a robe to keep myself warm and now i am like i have fully embraced this it is my favorite thing to put on i am wearing a blanket i've never looked more unattractive it's big and white and fluffy and my kids say i look like a marshmallow and i don't care. And my husband is not thrilled. But from my over my dead from my cold, dead hands, I forget. But you can take my gas robe and you can take my robe when I'm dead. I love the robe life.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I got a linen robe over the summer. Someone gave it to me for my birthday. That was I was like, oh, a lightweight robe for like i was like i could wear shorts and a tank top but then toss my robe on a robe over oh yeah i've like i look like the dude basically yeah that's the closest you can be to like being naked i feel like this is just coverage without any any sort of constriction whatsoever but you know what i love is a long bathrobe though like a long towel bathrobe that That gives you full coverage. A lot of robes are short if you're tall.
Starting point is 00:26:48 If you get ones that are longer length, oh, come out the shower. I'm not even chilled coming out the shower because I go right in that thing, the water's gone. Mine is long, and I am afraid that I'm going to move too fast and trip and kill myself.
Starting point is 00:27:04 But I'll go out in comfort. The game changer has been realizing I can put it on over my clothes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's an overcoat. Yes, it's a coat for your house. See, I'm scared
Starting point is 00:27:19 of tripping on my robe, so that's why my robe is really short. No other reason. It's just uh i just like to keep it short you have a shorty road tripping on it incredibly short obscenely so i love my cropped robe yeah i did i did have it uh tailored to make sure that it was just extra snug keep some guessing sir you sure you just don't want to buy a jacket if it was any shorter it'd be illegal for me to get the paper yeah yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back this summer the nation watched as the republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts
Starting point is 00:28:05 separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.
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Starting point is 00:30:42 as part of the My Cultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so we have the great great gasto freak out we have the fa grounding flights because of a system error and wokeness and they've even like politicized even like kind of politicized the mega millions and like how much money they're gonna take out of it and i don't know it's just it is a weird world that we live in. And then also, as we talked about, like the Southwest meltdown and Buttigieg like getting
Starting point is 00:31:32 completely excused by the mainstream media, it is a weird world that we exist in where everything is politicized, sometimes accurately and sometimes just arbitrarily. But let's talk about gas stoves, because this first came across my desk when we had two scientists on the podcast. Miles, I think you were out, but they, you know, have a podcast where they talk about climate change and they specifically start talking about gas stoves and how they are both very bad for the climate and also very bad for children's like cardiovascular health and that bummed me out because we have a gas stove yeah and yeah so anyways there this then popped up in the news because a member of the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission said that a ban on gas stoves was a possibility. And one congressman, you know, it was just across the board, right wing freak.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. Yeah. One congressman said, get your hands off our gas stoves. and said, get your hands off our gas stoves. Tim Scott of South Carolina tweeted, you can always count on Biden to gaslight the American people. He put his hands up in the air when he said it. Oh.
Starting point is 00:32:56 To receive the applause and the adulation. Yeah. Senator, do you mind explaining that joke to me a little bit? Huh? In response. Oh, because it's gas and the gas gas stoves are lit so gas lights the american people biden is doing oh do you know what gas lighting is no one does no one does that's fine just just say it out loud. But this is also not gas lighting. Right. No, no, no, no. It's definitely not.
Starting point is 00:33:28 But it's just a good way to use a buzzword where your audience isn't thinking critically at all. They're like, exactly. Exactly, dude. But also maybe referencing an antiquated technology that was replaced with a safer electronic alternative isn't making the point you think it is in this case. Maybe not, maybe not. Maybe not the time to pull that one in. But Joe Manchin, you know, let everybody know he was a real American saying,
Starting point is 00:33:54 last thing that would ever leave my house is the gas stove that we cook on. And all of these tantrums, no doubt, inspired purely by food preparation preferences and not, say, money from the natural gas industry. No. So I have a preference for gas stoves because that's the only thing I've ever really used other than, you know, an apartment here or there. But, like, for the most part, it's been gas stoves.
Starting point is 00:34:21 That's what I'm used to using. I like the term term now we're cooking with gas is like a weird antiquated like dumb thing to say all of this is part of the gas industry's like decades long centuries long propaganda campaign it turns out it's been an op this it's an op the whole time your gas stove is an op holy shit i mean the second they were like electricity it's like get every single person who people think is an authority on cooking or heating or whatever and just sing the praises of gas and propane up and down the aisles please that's kind of what's going on i don't actually understand this. I don't understand why people think
Starting point is 00:35:05 cooking with a gas stove is better. I grew up with an electric stove and my dad who's into cooking always said he wished that we had a gas stove. And then after college, I lived with a roommate and that was the first time we had a gas stove. And I remember I had two roommates. They went out and all of a sudden I started, I was smelling gas. So I got nervous and I called the fire department and like 15 firemen showed up. It wasn't a bachelorette party. Yeah. I'm exaggerating.
Starting point is 00:35:34 It sounds hot. Yeah. A number. 15 scrippers? Wow. A number of firemen were in my house looking all around. They didn't see gas anywhere. It was because my roommate
Starting point is 00:35:46 had used the gas stove earlier and I was so humiliated and I never told my roommates that I had done this. Oh, because you had never smelled the gas before? I didn't realize that it leaves a smell for like a while after you use it. Yeah. I'm so used to it. I don't even know anymore. I don't. I think I must have grown up with a gas or a uh an electronic stove because i still remember a friend who he had like one of those old times like have you ever been in an older house that you could that like really smells of like cooking gas like i i think they just had a gas leak yeah and right but i yeah i remember like distinctly places that i went that smelled like cooking gas but yeah so this is a decades and decades long aggressive push to make gas stoves
Starting point is 00:36:36 the thing the one thing that they do have is like they seem to always say well electricity if you go with electricity it's actually going to be more expensive in the long run because you're spending money on that that's the first argument against any forward moving technology yeah exactly people from embracing it yeah and it's because there's been so many because of people like joe mansion and all these politicians were freaking out there's been so many subsidies and just all these ways to make it profitable and you know possible for gas natural gas to be like a massive growth industry in the united states but yeah so that is the one thing they they always warn a gas
Starting point is 00:37:19 ban would dramatically increase your bills and i i think that might be true. Oh, Jack, we got to play the cooking with gas track. But yeah, so... The propaganda is so fucking aggressive. It's like, I think this should be enough to turn everybody off of cooking with gas from now on this video that we're going to link off to in the footnotes. And we're going to watch together right now.
Starting point is 00:37:43 So in addition to to so the phrase cooking with gas was like they paid bob hope to start saying that in like his jokes and in his bits like they they have been every aspect of this has been carefully and successfully just like nudging you to the gas world injected intojected into our culture and into our brains. Less successful is this national fuel gas cooking with gas video. So this is a lobbying effort where they put together a rap video in 1988 in which five people in their 20s and 30s rap about why gas is better than electric. Jack, just stop hating it.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Let me drop the beat, man. Oh, my God. This is some real hip-hop. Okay. Cooking with gas. Cooking with gas. We all cook better when we're cooking with gas. Gas is so hot it's not on when it's off.
Starting point is 00:38:41 It's the only way to cook. That's what I was taught. Here's a fact you should have to know to pass. Nine out of ten chefs only cook with gas. What is that you say? Okay, so, my God. Keep an eye on, when you watch it, keep an eye on the guy with the rat tail and the green apron. Yeah, he's really something else. He looks like if Brett Kavanaugh and Bobcat Goldthwait were a person.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Oh, my God, yes. It's a very specific face he has. But, yeah, I don't trust him. I feel like he was the ad executive whose idea this was. And he put himself in there. I actually know what's cool. I just fucking saw Run DMC last night. They're fucking really good, man.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I think we can do some of that rap stuff with this gas campaign i'll write the raps i actually already have written them in my brain just uh jay-z style i don't even know who that is i can see the future i'm on so much cocaine it's right you you always reference that quote from quincy jones that like whenever you bring an executive into the room who's like talking about profit God leaves the room and this video was the first like perfect crystallization
Starting point is 00:40:14 of what music where God has truly left the entire solar system would look like maybe God is the 10th chef who doesn't use gas that's right but yeah it's it's interesting to see like the outrage because when you look at what like the emissions are you're like yeah objectively it's better to stop burning fossil
Starting point is 00:40:39 fuels i don't care how much less it is than everything else the point is if we have the know-how and ability to do it, then we should move towards it. There's a lot of other costs like involved too. Like if you don't have like a 22, 20 volt outlet where an electric stove would go, that might be something. But this is like where subsidies should come in
Starting point is 00:40:58 to help like, you know, make that easier for people to make the switch. And the other big issue too is like ventilation. Because most houses you have gas, you might have a gas stove easier for people to make the switch and the other big issue too is like ventilation because most houses you have gas you might have a gas stove and your vent like just goes nowhere you know what i mean like you have a fan and really you're just blowing all that shit inside your house which is also terrible so there's like ways to like mitigate but like the idea to even just approach this to me like no it's a non-starter electric stoves. That's like,
Starting point is 00:41:25 come the fuck on. And I think that just shows how effective this like PR campaign has been over the last fucking nearly hundred years. Yeah. More than 40 million American households have gas stoves and a 2022 study found that they release 2.6 tons of methane into the air each year, which is the equivalent of 500,000 cars over the course of a year. And they also emit unhealthy levels of nitrogen oxide, which can trigger breathing problems, especially in young kids. So I was looking at this New York Times article that was talking about like it was something like the new the new soldiers in the climate war are like these home influencers because the gas industry is now getting like hgtv type people to go on local news and spread the gospel of gas this i'm gonna play a couple this one is from this guy from hd hgtv his name is matt blashaw or something
Starting point is 00:42:20 he's on this like heavy-handed local news segment about like, Hey, the winter's coming up. So you should check out your like energy, like you should check out those heating things. And this guy just comes right in with some like weird ass, like there is only gas type sentiment. Farmers Almanac, they're saying that we're going to have a very cold and wet winter. So get ready for it. And when I think of winter, I think of being inside. I think of cooking with the family, like on the range behind me, being by a roaring fire. And with propane, that is all possible. That's why we call it an energy source for everyone. And October 7th, it's next.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Like, what the fuck, dude? You just went from, like, super iconic, like, imagery of warming around the fire to, and that's why I think of propane through which anything is possible. What? The fuel source for all. Come on, sir. You're doing a really bad job. And these people are all paid by this, like, same propane group. Then there was this woman, Emily Calandrelli, who has a show on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:43:29 She's from MIT, and she's a science communicator and educates kids about science. She went on to this local Houston station to talk about electric buses, or what could be clean school buses. And I wonder what her take could be on clean energy conveyances. I mean, she's from MIT, probably pretty good. Yeah, so this is the part that I'm really excited about. Because for me, and I think many of us grew up with these old, dirty diesel buses, I can still remember the smell. And you would see that thick black smoke coming out the tailpipe right and in that thick black smoke there are harmful emissions that are bad for the environment and bad for kids lungs things like nitrous oxide but the good thing the good news is that there are now better alternatives for cleaner school
Starting point is 00:44:16 buses today oh good there's cleaner yeah right like propane school buses so for just a marginally higher cost you can drastically reduce these emissions propane school buses. So for just a marginally higher cost, you can drastically reduce these emissions. Propane school buses actually reduce nitrous oxide emissions by 96%. 96%. That is amazing. So how would you say propane compares to electric buses? Like what are these? This is a whole propaganda segment. When we think of clean vehicles, we often think electric. I drive an electric car myself. This is where I'm like, okay, everything you say after this is nonsense. If you give a fuck enough to be like, I drive an electric car. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:51 But we don't, I mean, I would drive a propane car if I could. I would have voted for Obama a third time. Yeah. I'm one of the good guys, okay? But I am also taking massive payments from the propane industry so that's and it's wild what in the new york times when they asked both of these people to comment they said oh can you actually i would direct you towards the like propane energy council that wow i'm not answering questions about any of this are they making that when they say energy
Starting point is 00:45:20 for everyone are they is propane crazy cheap or something? Like, why is it for everyone? It is. Yeah, that's right. That's going to be because of substance, because it's what the government decided. It's what it's the end. It's the chosen industry that the government has been like, OK, we get money from oil people and, you know, therefore we give them breaks and we make it possible for them to have really favorable market conditions to to sell it to people right yeah and it's yeah it's it's just wild we're we're looking at a fucking climate crisis and we're like nah nah not electric yet like not the government they're
Starting point is 00:45:59 already putting it there's governments already shelling out billions to convert these fucking school buses to electric so like in the argument it's like well it's kind of more expensive they're actually three times more expensive than a propane school bus and it's like that you're still completely missing the point of like our such our dire situation on the planet you know it's expensive going to another planet and setting up camp because this one's uninhabitable right yeah but we're not good at long-term thinking in this country or this planet it seems yeah the i mean in a similar like story where it's a thing that affects everybody and immediately got politicized the faa grounded flights tuesday night before the order was lifted on wednesday morning due to system failure that
Starting point is 00:46:43 delayed more than 4,000 flights. Planes in the air were still able to land. It wasn't like a Die Hard 2 scenario where everyone, they're like, keep circling. We don't know what the fuck's going on down here. They were able to, youways, airspace restrictions. These were created in 1947 when flying was more of a take your own life into your own hands type of a proposition. If you want to, man, go ahead. It's pretty safe.
Starting point is 00:47:24 Like one in four crash but like that's still 75 you make it to where you're going and you're flying isn't that so they're they've been around for a long time these are very you know they're based on similar messages that were used to alert and still are used to alert ship captains to hazards at sea they're through like legal liabilities and things like that they have gotten clogged up do you guys ever get like those weather alerts that for that are like there's an alert in your area and there's like thousands of words of text that are all identically sized and all all caps and you have to look through to find the thing that's relevant to you.
Starting point is 00:48:09 Yes. Are you talking about when it blows up your phone? Yeah, when it blows up your phone. I also have some on Gmail that tell you there is a weather alert in your area. In following counties. Nobody's warning me. I've never gotten a text like that i've gotten one that's very succinct that's like hey there's a flash flood warning but yeah that's
Starting point is 00:48:29 like that's was that from a friend of yours i think i got a flash flood warning when there was actually like a flash flood that was not too far from us and so i might have like signed up for additional like warnings and it's just impossible so that's what it sounds like happens here like for the the people who are familiar with it are like we've been saying you need to overhaul this shit anyways they can be up to 200 pages they bury critical information in irrelevant details which are provided to avoid legal liability rather than improve safety. There just said one person on the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, a chairman on the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, no TAMs are just a bunch of garbage that nobody pays any attention to. So not super helpful, but I mean, it's good to know when something like this is malfunctioning and clearly things need to be fixed.
Starting point is 00:49:28 But this became a big political like talking point for some reason. Yeah. Yeah. Because they decided to diversity, equity and inclusion over there at the FAA. They weren't so folk. Like, it's so wild that these cynical people are just clipping out things that they have, like, a focus to, like, racial equity or, like, income inequality. Because they're, I mean, obviously, it's most, let's be real, for the people that are criticizing it, it's fucking mostly performative, just so you know. I don't know. I don't know many people who work at places that have gone through this said, they actually turned a corner here. many people who work at places that have gone through this said they actually turned a corner here. So in that instance, I'm like, yeah, ask the people who are in the group that are asking for
Starting point is 00:50:08 DEI if anything is changing. And I trust me, I don't think this is what was distracting them. But that is the line, the line of attack, which is if they didn't figure out gender pronouns or something like that, maybe the systems would work. And it's right. Come on. something like that maybe the systems would work and it's right come on and just generally it does feel though like everything is a well our guys in the office so like we have to spin everything as a win or their guys in the office so we have to spin everything as a loss and like politicize everything which is not is not new or a interesting insight i guess but it's still just like it feels like we're on shakier ground than ever when it comes to just being able to tell like what the fuck is actually going on
Starting point is 00:50:50 in the country it's like it's just such an oversimplification a lot biden right well like even like don or donald trump jr is that what you call him donald trump jr sounds so weird doju as we normally call him here. He was even like, was Buttigieg took paternity leave? No, he called it maternity leave. Oh, he did? Sick burn, bro. I'm so sorry, yeah. Sick fucking homophobic burn, you
Starting point is 00:51:15 loser. You uncool fucking loser. But, yeah, it's like, I'm just exasperated at how insincere it all is, because we're just talking about, like, I'm just exasperated at like how insincere it all is because we're just talking about, like it seeds this idea in people's minds. It's like, well, I mean, if you talk about diversity, you're going to lose sight of everything that's happened. Like in their minds, the FAA like is like this place where people have to keep pressing a button every 14 minutes or something.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And because they had to go do a DEI seminar, they forgot to press the button. And that's what happened. Like, it's just so very simple. But I guess it's easier to understand for the purposes of your propaganda efforts. You got to get some wins every day. But Miles, your argument, which am i right that your argument is that for everyone saying that bullshit like it's a bad faith argument none of them actually believe that
Starting point is 00:52:10 like no one actually on that side i mean i think the followers might but sorry that's highly condescending but like no i don't think there's anyone who actually thinks like well you could have a co-ed bathroom or you can keep planes in the sky i can't do both yeah it's easier's easier because it's like it's like saying, you know how to get the crowd to cheer. Yes. And, you know, and if you're not a rock, if you're not a rock, the mic, so to speak, then you just have to, like, keep putting out these sort of sentiments. And they don't need to be logical. You just like because everyone's here like, you know what? I'm I'm fucking primed to get angry at these people.
Starting point is 00:52:42 So just give me a reason to scream. And that's what they do. It's like, because they're woke, the planes crash and they're like, yeah! And you're like, I love this shit. It's so easy, man. The retweets just come in. Like nothing. But then it also, like, because they're
Starting point is 00:52:59 so ignorant and aggressively wrong that, like, makes you want to be like, like no they're good actually and you know like i love the faa yeah the faa is my shit they're the best and like i got it such a like counterproductive environment to be consuming information about a world that can harm us like and that like can you know that we need to be able to navigate and it's just like very we're very incentivized to be like missing the point in a lot of different important ways just look at all the vaccine bullshit you know and like you got fucking
Starting point is 00:53:40 diamond of diamond and silk died pushing all this like anti-vaccine she was hospital yeah diamond passed away like three days ago she was in the hospital with covid for a while oh my god and yeah i know you're like diamond i get it but like i didn't know you were such a fan well just it is kind of it's a big you know right wing influencer you know yeah you know taking off to the big uh kuchela in the sky but it's just like what's the what's the escalation of this because we already have a group of people who are like i don't even fucking know if science is real right you know and then what's gonna come next because if this is the momentum that they're on like it's it feels like that one south episode, like in the first season where the volcano was going to come and destroy the
Starting point is 00:54:27 city. And everyone watched that safety video about being like, if you duck and cover, you will be protected from the lava flow. And like in it, that people duck and cover and the lava just goes over them. And like, they're safe.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Like that people are going to be like, Oh shit, duck and cover y'all. And then cut to the real scene when it happens. And then just skeletons just came out from the magma. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's what we're like.
Starting point is 00:54:48 We're seeing a version of this over and over. And I just think there, there's always going to be some version of this. And the evolution of this is what's really fucking freaky. Because if you have enough people to be like, ha ha ha ha. It, this,
Starting point is 00:54:59 my, my like, you know, my, my ideology led to an early death. Yeah. Just, but I was smug. I was smug the whole time time i got to laugh smugly at them all i just and it's personally like i i want to be told when i'm wrong just let let me know when i'm wrong oh by the way i was wrong about the uh
Starting point is 00:55:17 the robots walking on two legs somebody sent me a video of like the latest and first of all i don't know like how many videos there were of the robots walking on two legs where the thing like tripped and fell over. But they can do impressive shit. So I was outdated in my information on that particular subject. But yeah, like, I don't know. Everybody just wants to be right and rooting for the for the right side. And like we're nobody's on any team other... Your side will fuck you over so quickly.
Starting point is 00:55:49 Whatever side you're on, try and think a little more independently. They're just trying to make money and not rock the boat that pays them. What did you think... What's the robot two legs thing? I was talking about how complex the human foot is and the human walk like this
Starting point is 00:56:06 thing we do without thinking and i was like they they just did this study that like kind of analyzed the human gait and was like there's the second bounce that we hadn't really been able to explain but they had like kind of figured out the fluid dynamics of the human walk and while i was saying that i was like for instance this is why, like they're so bad at mimicking the human walk. And they are pretty bad at it, like generally. But there there has been a breakthrough where there's like a parkour robot that can run and jump and like do incredible things on two legs. Yeah. And when you look at it, they do have the foot, like, down. Like, the connection foot to leg is, like, pretty impressive. As compared to, like, the things that we were looking at before, which were just, like, little crutches that the thing was, like, walking on.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. Or those wind-up toys you kept showing us. You're like, look at this dumb thing. Look at that. It's the best they got. Wind it up again. Geek, geek, geek, geek, geek, geek, geek. I think the chattering teeth are throwing off the balance.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Stick a long robe on one of these robots and then we'll see what happens. Thank you. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
Starting point is 00:57:53 One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session, 24 hours. BPM 110, 120. She's terrified.
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Starting point is 01:00:51 i think i remember very clearly because in la new york pizza is like the apex and it's like you've got to go to new york to have a new york slice kind of thing so when pizza hut was like hey people who are not in New York, we will bring you this other version. And we were like, New York style pizza! Like, you know, and our minds were fucking blown out here.
Starting point is 01:01:13 Yeah. So this is part of a long-term trend of fast food companies bringing back old, nostalgic menu items, presumably to trick us into feeling as though we're not rapidly hurtling toward old age and death. We talk a lot on this show about that there is this massive and somewhat unprecedented
Starting point is 01:01:35 cognitive dissonance that everyone alive right now is having to deal with, which is like the impending climate doom and the fact that we just like exist in this system that is not doing anything about it. And so I don't know, like, I think I made fun of a trendcaster last year for saying like nostalgia is back. And I'm like, yeah, nostalgia has never been gone. It's an ever present concept. Right. But it also feels like it would make sense for nostalgia to be back more and more than it ever has been before, because we are in this unprecedented time of, again, cognitive dissonance with the end of the world and us all being just working parts of a system that is sending us towards that without really changing pace. And also loneliness, which like studies have shown that loneliness makes nostalgia much more potent or attractive to people. And we are now lonelier than we've ever been thanks to the fact that we don't have butchers. We have
Starting point is 01:02:39 butcher app in Amazon, you know, like we were talking about earlier. B-U-T-C-H-R. Yes. Yeah. B-T-C-H-R. Yes. B-T-C-H-R. Yes. But yeah, it's like the cultural consumerism version of me wanting to just sit around in a fluffy
Starting point is 01:02:55 bathrobe and be cozy. Like I think also because of the pandemic, we've been cut off from familiarity and normalcy. So it makes you want, you know, it's like. And alone with our pain, too. Yes. Like, that's a huge part of that experience of, like, you know, on top of it being by
Starting point is 01:03:13 yourself and, like, having all this time to think about your situation. Yeah. Right. It's like when you go to a concert, you do want to hear the songs that you're familiar with. Right. Right, right, right, right, right. I wonder if it's more than, like, the nostalgia, like, that we're regressing right right right right right right i wonder if it's more than like
Starting point is 01:03:25 the nostalgia like that we're regressing to try and like keep ourselves like just on some level of like stability is more like the cynicism of just how like consumer like marketing things work where they're like oh that's right all these millennials now guess like because we're becoming the group that they want to target like with this kind of shit because like oh they got families they're gonna buy shit hey remember that shit when you were 12 or whatever and now we're like yeah because you couldn't really do that with our parents you know there was like just the like consumer goods weren't like evolving at that pace where like you could come back and be like hey man remember the old malt shop like it's coming back
Starting point is 01:04:06 like it would come back in weird ways like we had cafe 50s and shit like that yeah i remember like would be well i mean the babics steve jobs this whole thing was like i'm going to sell computers that you work on and i'm going to do it by using like images of gandhi and john lennon like right right and make you feel like you're part of something that's artistic so i do i do think so they evoke it in different ways i'm saying it's like yeah you can evoke it with those times but with us coming in from the 80s and on it was such like hey you want this new thing this new thing this new thing this new movie this new ip and now you can be like hey bring that ring that thing out and bring it back up. Yeah. I think our parents' generation were like more about, Hey,
Starting point is 01:04:48 it's the eighties, man. I'm an eighties dude. I listened to music on a boom box and, you know, like they wanted, it's the wave of the future as opposed to like us. We just want to be like,
Starting point is 01:05:01 I don't know. Let me crawl back into my nintendo entertainment system and play you know stupid video games or like when bruce springsteen did the super bowl halftime show you know yeah and i was like what like i remember being like yo i'm into this like i'm into the like the super bowl but that was clearly for the demographic that was the dominant group at the time yeah i think with millennials moving into that makes sense that like everything's kind of like hey you remember this shit right yeah so the big new yorker which first came out in 1999 is bag and restaurant and restaurant on february 1st mr marketing the difference between the big new yorker and the regular pizza pizza which i haven't had nor seen anywhere i don't like i pizza
Starting point is 01:05:48 pizza like doesn't really exist in like i don't know anybody who orders it i don't you know like they're i know there are people out there but like i don't i have not seen somebody eat a pizza hut product in other other than when you are at like a mall food court and there is like a kfc taco bell pizza hut like conglomerate and you can get the personal pan but like i don't i don't see people consume these that often but anyways they uh the new yorker one is 30 bigger than pizza huts large with foldable slices and extra cheese that is always the secret new york when domino's did their sorry our pizza was bad we're making it good again campaign people compared the pre and post reboot pizza and like the redesigned pizza that i agree is way better just have like 60 more cheese
Starting point is 01:06:41 people so our insight is people like cheese so that seems to be the insight here and people seem to be excited and responding but when it first came out it was actually like this major political controversy there was this major political controversy around the ads because they did the hillary clinton one i mentioned up top where they were like they had a hillary clinton person being like i'm gonna run for senator a new york senator uh which that that's what they thought hillary clinton talked like i guess And so it was interesting because it was like the person who was running Pizza Hut at the time and running like part part of this ad campaign had ties to her presumed opponent in that for that Senate run, Rudy Giuliani and their parent company at the time. Tricon Foods. Yeah. How delicious sound they, Tricon Foods. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:45 How delicious sound they? Tricon Foods. Powered by propane. We are really. Yeah, exactly. A food source for everyone. That sounds like what the Transformers enemies would eat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:59 We eat Tricon Foods. But yeah, they were big donors campaign to to quote my favorite movie nick at time they were big donors to giuliani's senate exploratory committee and on the board of tricon was billionaire kenneth langone who also donated to giuliani's campaign and who served as giuliani's campaign finance chair in 93 when he first won the mayor's job. So it feels like it was not just a randomly placed joke. Giuliani eventually dropped out of the Senate race because people didn't really like him. And incidentally,
Starting point is 01:08:36 the same big New Yorker pizza was soon after marketed by Donald Trump. Do you remember that ad? Yes, I do. And I thought it was the coolest thing I'd ever seen. He was just like a funny, iconic New Yorker and not the turd he is now. Yeah. Like when he was in his like Zsa Zsa Gabor era. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:58 You know what I mean? He was on Zsa Zsa Gabor. You just got a Zsa Zsa cameo. You know what I mean? And that was it. Like you got your Donald Trump cameo and then he really pulled up to the party. So it is possible that the
Starting point is 01:09:10 2016 election was informed by people's subconscious impressions of the candidates that were formed by their distant memories of Pizza Hut's big New Yorker pizza commercials. Something that I haven't heard put forth up to this point, but our writer J.., once once on the record, which I think is is an interesting point.
Starting point is 01:09:30 Interesting thought. So it's so it's Pizza Hut's fault. Yeah, I think most things make sense. I think. Yeah. Have you seen that meme with the guy has like one tiny domino, but in front of him is a progression of even larger. The guy has like one tiny domino, but in front of him is a progression of even larger dominoes. Like that meme where it's like the first domino is 1999 pizza, big New Yorker pizza, and then January 6th. Yes, you can draw a line from pizza to January 6th. Yeah. And we just did.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Great documentary. Yeah. That pan pizza though is so greasy. The personal pan pizza. I haven't had it in a while but oh i don't think they just double down on that i don't know like i would get that every day for lunch if they were just like yeah we'll we'll drop that shit off for you or like you could just swing by and we'll like discus it into your car window you know like that shit is so good
Starting point is 01:10:22 and they should reopen which i think I heard they were doing, but reopen the, you know. Yeah, the salad bar, pizzeria, pizza huts where you can like go sit down, have a giant pitcher of soda. Yeah. And steal a vaguely brownish orange translucent plastic cup. Yes. That you take home. Or the red ones. Or crushed ice. Or the red ones that had coca-cola written on them yeah oh man that that would that would hit for me absolutely i remember there was a kid who at his like his family shamelessly stole the pizza hut
Starting point is 01:10:57 cups all the time when he went to their house they had the pizza hut cups and i was like this is fucking sick dude why are your parents so fucking cool? Yeah. I was like, yo, you're pretty scumbag. I'll steal everything from restaurants. And then that kind of kicked off an era where I was stealing things from restaurants. But anyway, shout out to them. If Pizza Hut reopened their pizzerias and just had them everywhere, I would be there very frequently.
Starting point is 01:11:23 And I would be able to stop worrying about this damn climate apocalypse. Thank you. Have some NBA jam in there. Come on, Tricon Foods, save us. Tricon Foods. Allison, as always, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you? Follow me on social media at alison rosen just
Starting point is 01:11:45 one l so a l i s o n r o s e n and listen to my podcast alison rosen's new best friend upworthy weekly which is a light-hearted news podcast and that comes out saturday mornings and childish yeah yeah please and is there also can i say one more thing um i'm starting to put more of my podcast on youtube so uh please subscribe i'm trying to trying to uh get you know i'm just trying to try to make this happen in 2023 youtube.com yeah yeah every episode just like simultaneously if you got a new pod it'll be up on the youtube too not everyone yet but some but enough you know enough yeah enough to keep you coming back okay yeah and is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes two so you guys have had
Starting point is 01:12:31 nicole thurman on the show right yeah have you had her she is i love following her uh especially on instagram i think she's she makes me laugh all the time and she just got a dog so there's a lot of cute dog content but then also and i'm embarrassed that i responded to this so much given by who given who's behind the account but on tiktok there is the aarp account has this series called gen x asmr and all of them made speaking of nostalgia all of them made me laugh it's like like a guy, I hate, I hate ASMR. It like makes my skin crawl, but it's a guy and it's like, he'll click a Polaroid camera into the mic.
Starting point is 01:13:12 He'll like pull out an old school floppy disc. He'll rewind a VCR tape. He'll do like a slap bracelet. And it's just, it's very funny. I can't believe I am responding to AARP content. That is so depressing. But Gen X ASMR, look it up. ItARP content. That is so depressing. But Gen X ASMR, look it up.
Starting point is 01:13:27 It's really funny. Oh, no. Wow. The opening of the cassette. You said opening of a cassette? A rewinding of a VCR cassette tape. Oh, God. I was even thinking of opening a new cassette tape, getting the cellophane off. Or where's the one where someone struggles with CD wrapper?
Starting point is 01:13:43 Right. You know what I mean? Because remember, like, the warehouse, they would sell those, like, little weird, like, blades. You could just slide on the top of your CD to just get through it. It was impossible to open this. And also, oftentimes, I would end up, like, actually slicing the jewel case by mistake when I would try to get into it. Yeah. Put a knife straight down the top.
Starting point is 01:14:05 That's what I always did. I put a knife through the back cover and the front cover meet the hinge. There was always that little space to the side of the hinge that I knew I wouldn't fuck up the jewel case. I fucked up many jewel cases. There was one I got so mad, I tried to swap it out with another one.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Never mind, I'm not going to talk about this anymore. Because you're going to start weeping? it was when they started doing the clear back cd cases they all used to be the standard black back cd cases and when they went clear i had and if i had to cannibalize another cd case i would have to go through and find like a more modern cd case anyway i had just real fast i had a red hot chili peppers cd and i was like oh my god if you hold it up to the light when the cd is not in the case there's like this secret star this asterisk looking symbol that shines through but it was just the actual like school the cd sits on oh i was like wait it's on all the CD cases. Miles, where can people find you?
Starting point is 01:15:06 What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, man, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Some tweets that I like. Let's see. What's Twitter? Something's going on over here on oldtwitters.com. One tweet I liked was from a past guest
Starting point is 01:15:24 and wonderful comedian roy wood jr at roy wood jr tweeted he said watch twitter did y'all throw out your old cd cases or stash them in the garage for your kids to find in 10 years like we did our parents vinyls album artwork was really part of the listening experience i you know i love nostalgia but hate clutter i'm torn and he has a picture of a box of like all these empty CD cases. Because we were all using case logics back then. Yes. And we just fucking ditched the plastic sleeve. Another one I like is from
Starting point is 01:15:51 Isha Callahan at Y-E-S-H-A-C-A-L-A-H-N tweeted, I took someone I was dating to the Globes and we took a step and we took step and repeat photos. After we ended, he cropped me out of the photo and is using it on Tinder with the other photos. LOL. Wow. Let me just use you
Starting point is 01:16:07 for some golden globe step repeat pics real quick. And then at SleepyM1 tweeted, Fuck wine tasting. Is soup tasting a thing? Trying loads of soups with fresh bread? Please. Anyone else? Yeah. As long as they don't make you spit it out, you know?
Starting point is 01:16:23 Please drink your soup responsibly. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore yeah as long as they don't make you spit it out you know yeah yeah let's see please please drink your soup responsibly you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien uh tweet i've been enjoying alicia lutz or lutz l-u-t-e-s tweeted movie pitch jennifer coolidge and owen wilson at each other. Wow. Alright. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes
Starting point is 01:16:57 and our footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy today uh i think we're gonna go out on the artist gene dawson who is a uh black mexican artist from san diego uh who describes himself as if morrissey was from the hood if a little bit of manchester and a little bit of compton uh is how he's described himself there's a track called bad fruit with earl sweatshirt on it and it's man he makes such
Starting point is 01:17:31 genre bending music it's wild like this sounds like part emo with earl sweatshirt rapping on it but also like a cold play huge arrangement with like a string like like an orchestra with like a huge quiet it's the track is very an orchestra with like a huge choir. The track is very sonically busy and dense, and it's a really interesting listen. So check out Bad Fruit, Gene Dawson, and Earl Sweatshirt. All right. Well, we will put that in the footnotes.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It is a very dope song, so go check it out. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. And we'll talk to you all then.
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