The Daily Zeitgeist - The Great Lock In 11/10: Dr. Oz, Trump, Kim K., SCOTUS, Gov't Shutdown

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

In this edition of The Great Lock In, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, that Dr. Oz meeting at the Oval Office last week, Kim Kardashian's new legal drama "All's Fair", SCOTUS upholding Obergefel vs. Hodges (for now), 8 cowardly Dem snakes ending the gov't shutdown (for nothing in return) and much more! Some People Can’t See Mental Images. The Consequences Are Profound | The New Yorker See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Folding like a lawn chair, yeah. That's what we do. That's what, that's what Obama should have been. Okay, this is what we are, guys. this is us. You know when he hits the jumper and says, that's what I do. That's what I do. Yeah. He should have just done that after fooling on something. This is what I do. This is what I do. Cry and shit my pants. Cry and shit my pants when someone says header gut. Heter gutted, dude. They basically got

head or gutted. Yeah. And they said both. Yeah. Both. Whatever would make you more comfortable. Just fuck me up fully. Dude, do you have a gun in your hand? Are you like, you're not going to Threaten me with it? No, just fuck me. Oh, guys, leave him alone. He's, like, backed with, like, 20 knife-wielding tough guys. It's actually, like, I'm just really jealous of you. Actually, that's the whole thing. Like, I really like you guys.

I'm so jealous of you guys. That's why I'm like this, okay? Does that help? What? Here, just take this gun and you fucking shoot me, dude. Your gun? Yes. Yeah, you can make it look like a suicide.

Whatever. I'm fucking pathetic, dude. Just wipe off your prints and put it back in my hand. I don't care even Here I'll hold it Here I'll hold it Just you move my finger You fucking do it

I'm just too much of a coward Here put this cloak on So you don't get any gunshot residue If they test you after I just want to make sure there's no problem Could you actually come into my garage I set up a Dexter room in there It's all my fingerprints

It's all my fingers Just press this button dude It'll blow my house up I don't even care, dude. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of Dere Daily zeitgeist. Maybe a little more amorous today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

My name is Jack O'Brien. That over there's Miles Gray. This is the Monday morning episode where we tell you what is trending, what happened over the weekend, what's trending this morning. But first, Miles, we do like to allow them in. Don't. You know, come into our homes. No, they're vampires. Don't invite them in.

Don't invite them in. No, they seem nice. And I like the little, I like the acapella bluegrass song that they're singing. All right. This is cool. This is a hip new sound. Yeah, I kind of like this. Come on in.

Is that, what is that, a Civil War March from the South? Hey, these white people seem cool. Look at those little Irish dances they're doing. All right, I'll stop referencing sinners, although we will talk about sinners a little bit later. Yeah, we will. I will. Miles, first we like to let our listeners get to know us a little bit better by doing an underrated, overrated. Of course, during our show, we have the guests do them.

But hey, we got opinions too. Yeah, this is our show too, God damn it. This is my show, God damn it. And guess what? My mom didn't want to hear my overrated or underrated this weekend, so this is where I do them. you try every weekend yeah she's always going to be like are you to talk about you know what are you about to try out an overrated mom what's something i go mom what's something you think is overrated it says overrated none and i'm like what's something never mind you're not good at being a podcast guest

oh you're always against me mom could you imagine if that's just how we were in our day to day life hey nice to meet you what something you think's overrated and what's something you think's underrated hey let me get a look at your phone i want to see what your search is my man Sorry, your son is acting out in school. That's why you're here, sir. All right, cool. So break his behavior down to an overrated and underrated. What do you think is overrated about his behavior?

Underrated, huh? How hard he pushes the kids, right? Am I right? I mean, I didn't think that kid had that strength on it. He's lifting weights. Not like heavy, just soup cans for now. I try to stunting his growth or anything. Miles, what's something you think is underrated?

Underrated. This is so specific to just my life. but um just stories from your cousins i've got some fucking wacky cousins like they i have interesting shit going on my cousins have just they're much more interesting character type people they're like adult swim characters um and my one cousin recently got married so her majesty and i we took my cousin and his and his wife out for dinner and we were just catching up and i was like yo what's up with cam and my just this I don't know how to describe my cousin he just has this energy where he gets swept up in weird situations and like cross his paths with the weirdest people so I was like what's up with him he's like dude the other night on Halloween we go to this bar and like we were watching the Dodger game closed out the bar we're leaving and then randomly he like lets this very inebriated woman just jump in the car. Like, we don't even have an extra seat for this woman. And she's like, hey, she's like, hey,

he said, she's like, hey, he said, it's cool if I come with you guys. And they're like, dude, we're going home. What? Where do you live? She's like, it doesn't matter. I'm going to figure it out. I just need to get out of here. Let's go. Let's go. And my cousin, Cam, he's like a nice guy, but he's also kind of quirky. So he just doesn't have the heart to be like, bro, you can't cut like, like, no. What he said? There's also there's not even a seat for you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's all because she was like, she was like, I like your hair or some shit like that. Just some positive attention that you got. And he's like, yeah, sure. This isn't red flag city. Hop into our car. You're geeked up like a like who fucking like the Dodgers just won the fucking world series. So they're driving. My cousin says he gets to their house. This car pulls up behind it. It's this woman's a husband holding a tiny dog. she like runs into my cousin's house and she's like oh he's stripping he's tripping he's tripping

oh no what are you doing you got to come with me we got to go home this is this is too much you got a little philly's that's the way i that's the way i'm describing because my cousin was like yeah hon what are you doing my cousin was like yo they're just screaming in the street at like three in the morning you got to go home this guy's got a miniature dog in his hand and he's like, look what you're doing to Sisi! Look at what you're like, this is the wildest shit. And again, I was like, this is one of those stories, too.

I could hear you're grown where if you told me this story when I was 20, I'd be like, dude, this shit is so fucking funny. As a 41 year old adult, you're like, there is something seriously going on with these people. Yeah, he's like worried about her. She's just like kind of off on one again. my cousin's trying to figure out is like is she off on one or is he off on one because she was like I don't know like he's tripping he's tripping she's like she's going through an episode right now and I'm like all because my cousin doesn't know how to say no to people like all my cousins found themselves mediating some kind of like spat in the middle of the street at 3 a.m. And anyway, I was just laughing so hard at this and I just I think it's important because we're we talk so much about how like we get.

siloed off. I really should be talking to my cousins a lot more. Like, I'm, I'm close with them, but, like, I realize how much more I want to be checking in with them because, A, I love them, and B, there are like an infinite fountain of life experiences that I'm just not going to have anymore because, like, I've settled down. I've have, I have a family now. They're still out in the streets. Yeah. So, like, they are coming back with just good old fashioned, you know, harmless fucking stupid journeys they go on. So I guess all that says, keeping in touch with your family, underrated, underrated. Which I'm not good.

I need this underrated, Miles. Thank you. Call your cousins. They're going to have some weird story. I think a cousin's story just hits differently because you know them so well. Yeah. And it's something as mundane. This is exactly what happens soon.

When he said she got in the car and I'm like, and I go, of course he didn't say no, because I know him. And he's like, exactly. so she's like swirling around the back of a fucking forerunner sure like just like a shoe loose in a fucking washing machine yeah and everyone's like and like my cousins they were like bro this isn't safe they were like trying to be respond like reasonable like why is she coming to our house seat belt on yeah he's like I want to go to sleep

and then this guy's like look what you're doing is CC and it was just a whole event anyway check in with check in with them they got so well like your hair or I like your shirt, like, can buy you anything in my, but, well, first of all, it will make me be like, never throwing this shirt away. We're putting this shirt in the rotation. Wait, what do you mean? Because you said that, like, the way that she endeared herself to him was being like,

dude, I like your hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, I will not get a haircut or I'll wear that shirt way too often. And he has dreads. And it could be, oh, okay. It's like, that's, that's what all white women say to him. Yeah, yeah, okay. They're like, I love your hair.

Yeah, yeah. And then he turns into future. And I'm just wondering how many of the people have ever given me a compliment that I've like taken deeply to heart have been like having an episode. I don't shave. I don't, right, I don't shave my face that great because somebody told me that my shitty facial hair is actually interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it is. That's sick.

That's sick. That's that guy. You're that most interesting man in the world, right? Yeah. No, no, no. different bearded guy. Different bearded guy. That's right.

Your shit doesn't connect. Your shit doesn't connect. Yeah, yeah. Mystery. All right. My underrated, how different our brains are. Like,

I was thinking about this researching Einstein for our upcoming, uh, icons version of the show. Um, then I just read this article about affantasia. You know what this is? I think we covered the...

Is that if you see, like it's something the way you perceive things, right? It's, uh, yeah, people who can't, picture images in their brains. Oh, can't pick. Okay.

Yeah. So they don't have like image-based memories. They don't, like, if their eyes are closed, they're not seeing anything. But they, they live their lives, like, completely normally. So this is the thing that was surprised. Like, I can believe, like, oh, there's, you know, all sorts of different brands out there. There's also hyper-fantacic people who have, like, very strong visual memories or imaginations that, like, make their lives borderline unlivable. because just like reading about someone getting surgery without anesthesia is too much.

Like they feel that pain and then like can't forget it. So they have to like watch what they take in and, you know, reading novels is like too overwhelming for them. Whereas like people with Afantasia like can't really like they say they will just skip the descriptive part. Yeah. So this is the thing that blew my mind. So they said that Afantasia people like tend to be brilliant. scientist, hyper-fantagic people, artists, which, like, that's kind of what you'd expect. The surprising thing is, in all of these stories, they just discovered that this was a thing,

like, in 2016, and the people who don't have the ability to picture images in their brain didn't know that it was weird. They thought that we were all speaking in metaphors when we were, like, you know, picturing something in our mind. they were like, right, right, right. Like, they thought, like, it was weird, like, reading the way this guy came to the discovery. It was, like,

a part in 2001 Space Odyssey where, like, in the novel, he's talking about how, like, as he's, like, going through this thing, like, all these memories are, like, flooding back to him. And he's like, oh, so it's the alien technology that's, like, doing that to him. Like,

and then it was just, like, some random newspaper column where a guy was talking about, like, how time isn't real, because you can close your eyes and, like, go back and relive something. And, like, that, like, he was 35, like, a successful PhD. That's when he was like, oh, like, I might be different. And, like, had to, like, call his friends and be like, hey, so when you say, like, you can, like, picture something in your mind,

what do you actually, do you actually see stuff? And he was like, whoa, what the fuck? Are you fucking with drugs again, man? You all right? Well, that's the other thing is that this, article is a New Yorker profile is like it goes through all these people it talks about like how some of them have been able like Oliver Sacks I think that writer about psychology very popular writer who he didn't have the ability to like picture images in his mind and then he

like took a bunch of amphetamines at one point and was like I could suddenly picture images in my mind for like three seconds and then like it went away and he was like and I don't recommend doing that. I wouldn't I wouldn't recommend amphetamines for visuals either. But I don't know, I think we assume like the like those people who have had gone through their lives, not being able to picture anything and just thinking when people are like, I'm counting sheep in my mind. Yeah.

It was like conceptual. Like we assume everyone is more or less like us in their minds until we are like confronted by evidence otherwise. And that's so interesting. when researching Einstein, I was like, kept being like, it feels like this guy is constantly high. He's always like forgetting shit and he's just, he's like, you know, a person who is constantly stoned.

But then like having like these really like high ideas and like, you could say like taking drugs is like trying on the ways other people experience the world. Like I do wonder if people are just like all on this like different continuum of like ways you can experience the world and like I've had bad drug experiences that I'm like oh this is probably what it feels like to be like X, Y or Z. Yeah, yeah. Just totally fucking racked by anxiety all the time. Oh yeah. But yeah, it's really interesting article. We'll only go off to it in the footnotes. But I do think that that's a very underrated aspect of just like human existence is like our minds are just built totally different and experience the world

completely different ways, like the people who are affanticic, like, are less likely to value retributive justice, I think, or no, no, no, they're more likely to be, like, anything like conceptual, like an eye for an eye, whereas, like, people who are hyper phantagic or, like, just any suffering is, like, too much for them, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just, it's interesting. It's this whole, like, continuum that I didn't really understand. And then, like, you, of course, like, where would you say you fall on that spectrum?

Like, I feel like, one thing that they talked about was, like, people with auditory hyperfantia who, like, they're like, they wake up with, like, music playing in their head. I was like, well, I have, like, 90s rap song. Like, before we started recording, I was, like, had was, saying apart from a Fuji song that I hadn't heard in 20 years. Take up your microphone. Yeah. I think I have, like, more auditory. and then, you know, I'm pretty able to imagine images. Definitely not eff.

I would say I'm Fantasia. You're Fantasia. Fantasia Barino. It Fantasia Barino, the American Idol winner. Or maybe she was a runner up. No, I'm definitely, I definitely have, like, a very vivid memory recall. Yeah. Like, I can really see, like, where I'm at.

Like, I can smell everything. I can engage all my senses with memory pretty well. That makes sense. And yeah, I mean, like, I definitely, I don't know if it's empathy, but like it is, that is something I, if I'm seeing or reading about pretty vivid suffering, I don't, it doesn't necessarily mean like it throws me, but I think it's my, I think it's more empathy than anything. I think more the visual kind of sensory sort of memory stuff, I think more speaks to me than anything. Yeah, yeah. But it is funny. Like, I feel like all the time we are, you know, like, I just learning, I'm like, oh, I'm a visual learner. Like even those different. Yeah, yeah. that we have all these different ways that again like yeah i i i can't imagine maybe like 50 years they have even more detail to be like you are x y and z like brian in the chat just said what the

fuck brian did you say you were you said tactile auditory synesthetic and i didn't know until a couple years ago i assumed everyone could feel sound what does that mean you could feel sound like the base is hidden in your accord so i get physical sensations throughout my body that are repeatable depending on, like, what I'm listening to, which I just assume was normal. And I would talk to people about it. And they're like, yeah, totally. Right, like, because it, the way we talk about music, and I do wonder how much of it is, like, language created by somebody who has your ability, like, has your type of brain. And then we all just assume, oh, they're just being, like, descriptive and using poetic license.

You know what I mean? Oh, you can feel it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm feeling the music, too. I definitely have the, I think the only time I get sensation is because certain songs are tied to such a strong memory.

Like, I just have this one song I would play before job interviews. You fucking get, like, to get my mind, like, in the zone, okay? Because, like, the economy was bad. So you had to treat these job interviews, like, fucking the Super Bowl. When I hear that stuff, like, I get, like, in a, like, this sort of like, like, adrenal response. Yeah. Yeah.

But I think, again, that might be more tied to. Speaking of the adrenal response, like they found, because this does all seem like mushy and you're like, oh, you don't see images. But like they, when they study the people who like don't see images, they, when you tell them a scary story or they read a scary story, like they have no physical response. Like when they're like hooked up to systems and stuff like that. Whereas like the hyperphantacic people have like very strong physical response. And the rest of us like, you know, you experience fear. And like they're just like unable. to do that, but then they're the same if you, like, show them a scary movie because the images are, like, they're in front of them. So, yeah, I just, and it is interesting, like, I think a lot of people are like, oh, this younger generation is like, you know, over diagnosed and they're obsessed with, like, diagnosing themselves and they're different ways of processing the world, but I think it, it is, like, I don't know, we, I feel like we're just discovering how many, like, different ways there

to experience the world and like past generations were just like yeah I don't know man whatever and it is like really fucking interesting it's like oh shit dude when we were kids there were four kinds of people nice mean

smart or dumb yeah and that was it like I remember when they invented introvert extrovert I was like yo new type of person just dropped oh my god that's me whereas before it's like you are nice and dumb yeah it's like

Great. Miles is mean and smart. Like, okay. But I am interested in hearing from people, especially if, like, you are just becoming aware of, like, the fact that you're, like, somewhere on the spectrum or you have, like, some different wave experiencing the world. Because, yeah, like, a lot of the shit, like, a lot of the people that they, you know, interview who are avatacic, like, found out about it through, like, reading some random

shit and just hearing someone describe actually how their brain works in their like 30s or 40s and they're like, oh, wait, what? Oh, right. Because when I was a kid, they're only four kinds of people. Yeah. All right. What's something Miles do you think is overrated? My overrated is variety

because, okay, so the movie Christie came out. I've heard it spice of way. Oh, the industry rag. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. I'm too Hollywood right now. Variety magazine. and who's they've given us all kinds of really real nonsense. But like the Sydney Sweeney movie Christie came out that everyone's like,

this is universally being regarded as a bomb, like a terrible one of the worst releases we've seen for a big film. Yeah. Can I just read the details of that? Sure, sure. Yes, please. Yeah, yeah. So this, by the way,

this is like an Oscar play. And some critics were like, she's actually really good. She might like be a good actor. But, you know, it's at a 60 on Metacritic. So not enough for it to be. like it's an Oscar frontrunner

and they released it wide to over 2,000 theaters. So it's not like they did a slow you know, art house rollout. And it made $1.3 million across 2,000 theaters for

a per theater average of $649 which puts it among the top 10 worst openings for a new release. Three of the films below it were released during the pandemic. So it's pretty... Yeah, not good, not good, okay? So someone on Reddit just juxtaposed the two varieties.

First, I just want to read what Variety said when fucking Sinners came out. Okay, this is their description. Sinners is amassed $61 million in its global debut. It's a great result for an original R-rated horror film. Yet, the Warner Brothers release has a $90 million price tag before global marketing expenses. So profitability remains a ways away. Mm-hmm. Nice try, asshole.

Oh, I bet you feel pretty good. Exactly. Remember everything Jack just said about Christy coming out and being an absolute wet fart. Okay, this is what Variety said about Christy. Christie, featuring Sweening as the boxing trailblazer, Christy Martin, debuted with $1.3 million. The R-rated sports drama is the first theatrical release

from Black Bear Pictures. That's it. Hey. The most neutral swish. They broke their backs to fucking be pedantic about marketing budgets when it's clear the trajectory of sinners was more than able to fucking recoup its money and then some. And then this one is like a surprise.

It like doubled people's expectations its first weekend, which is when they were writing about it. And then proceeded to like just continue to dominate the box office. So they looked like fucking idiots like right away. And the thing that I think is interesting too is like a lot of there's always discourse about like they went woke and they went broke. But like, you know, Sieg Heil Sweeney really leaned into that denim ad.

Yeah. Okay. And people are like, yeah, look what happened, bro. Like, A, people, I think the wave is crested a bit for Sidney Sweeney in terms of like box office magnetism. But like, she's also like dropping some fucking hot garbage on us. Like it just like things that I don't know. I can't say the movie is good or bad. I can't say like the marketing around the movies is like why no, nobody's going to see either of these things. they're pointing like her last three films christie americana and eden were not not great returns but anyway more than anything variety fucking get your shit together like don't be this don't be this obviously biased but again i don't know what i expect from any kind of industry rag but it's just funny how they were like oh poor it's like that gordon ramsie meme where it's like when a black person puts out a movie's like you idiot and it's like when a white woman has a movie flop they're like oh come here you poor

baby right hey it made 1.3 million dollars so that's something i don't know what how much did you make this weekend did you make 1.3 million dollars because you get so because you get people to pay 600 on a screen for you yeah my overrated uh really briefly just the the the cleanliness of my socks at the end of the day i we live in a shoe free house we went over to friends who also have a shoe free house and I think I had to, like, step outside in the back or something in my socks because I got in there, looked down, I had to, like, check the bottoms of my socks, you know, like a, and I'm not saying it's, like, stinky bad, but, like, just, like, what it looks like.

I check, I check the bottom of my feet, like, uh, Anton Sugar at the end of, uh, no country. Yeah. And it was, it was, it was dark down there. And, and so I had to keep the, um, keep the feet flat on the ground the whole time. You're taking your feet up, huh? Yeah. Not crossing the leg.

Yeah, not crossing the leg. The leg wanted to cross. But I was just... I stayed in a crouched athletic position the whole night. But how do you have a shoe-free house and your socks are looking like a fucking used Swiffer Pat? I think I stepped outside. I think I stepped.

Are you protecting this other family, Jack? Because that could have been their filthy floors. No, as I was taking the shoes off, I checked the bottom of my... So is your house? I don't know what it is. Somebody's fucking up, Jack. You know what? Also, like, I think I need to switch out my socks more often, you know, because I'll

just hang on to them until there are holes in them. So, okay, so now you're saying these are, this is legacy dirt on an old sock or this is newly accumulated dirt? I think it's entirely possible as legacy dirt. Wow. So I've never gotten more judgment from, uh, an, an overrade. I mean, look. So your socks, the bottom of your socks are perfectly, I'm clean.

Holding it down for Asian households. You got a shoeless house. I got a shoeless house. And I've been to your house. My socks aren't looking like that at your house. Right. So now I'm worried about you. What are you doing, sir?

Swap. Are you okay? Yeah. I'm fine. I think the back deck of my house, like the back porch is pretty dirty. And I walk out there. And I think that's also the message that I need like house shoes, you know. That's exactly.

Exactly, exactly. I have anxiety when I step out in my socks. Sometimes I'm like, they're about to get fucked up. And usually I'm like, whatever, fucking, they're going to get dirty or whatever. But that's why you've got to have the strategically placed slippers, house shoes at the threshold so you can go outside and keep your socks clean. That's right. And that is my lesson that I've learned again, yet again on this episode, and I learned

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this weight loss drug that my millionaire friend is on? How about this? We'll give big pharma a big check and you won't eat as much so you might not notice their food benefits being gone. Dr. Oz was just like blathering on about fatphobic

weight loss nonsense. Did you hear what he said about the number of pounds Americans were going to lose? No. Is that that fucking thing? He said Americans or could lose up to 135 billion pounds by the midterm elections. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. Think about that from electoral perspective. Yep. Do we count votes by weight? We don't, right? Again, so stupid. Like, you think that's a thing to hang your hat on where people are like, well, I mean, obviously, like in this Trump administration, they got America to lose 135 billion pounds

after making a deal with two pharmaceutical companies to get GLP1 medications on the market. Anyway, but so Brian Letter points out we'll be counting our money by weight to be seriously. Yeah, right. Anyways, he's given this speech and Trump clearly fell asleep. Hard. Hard. Like not, yeah, not like, what's going on? He just like blinked for a long time.

He was out, which, to be fair, falling asleep while listening to Dr. Oz is what most 79-year-olds have been doing for like the past couple decades. Yeah, yeah, right. It's kind of the, what he should be doing at this point. Weirdly, he reportedly fell asleep after Dr. Oz said the words, people can sleep again. So Ruffo was like a hypnosis situation. It hit him.

I mean, the way he was sleeping with his chin up, it looked like he was playing organ or like in a rock band and he was hit a beautiful chord. So he's going to turn it into a rock band thing. like the Oswald getting shot. Yeah, yeah, exactly. The Ruby, Jack Ruby Bay. One of the great memes. Is he the most hypnotizable person of all time?

Like, what if it had been a press conference about, like, the food supply chain, would he have, like, started clucking like a chicken? It's hard to say. Probably. He has no mental defenses, so, yeah. I will also say, because I do think Donald Trump, like, is rumored to be on these weight loss drugs. Mm-hmm. And my unofficial take is that the people I've seen who have lost a lot of weight on these drugs always look so tired.

You know, it like suppresses your appetite. So you're like getting less food and energy than you did before. I feel like they're always so sleepy. What's sort of the other one? L.A. just does cocaine, I think, to offset that. Yeah, yeah. So you got to do that. That's the other.

Where's that part of the deal, Dr. Oz? Are you working with the cartels? anyways, after Trump kind of fell asleep, he was back up and Adam standing up at his desk getting ready for a photo opportunity, I think, and a company rep

from like one of the pharmaceutical companies that they'd like made a deal with randomly like passed out. Yeah. Which was there a fucking gas leak in there? What the fuck is happening? That guy just like calling out all over the place. He looked all. He looked like

if you lined him all up. as fuck yeah if you say line them all up and you you tell me which one of these dudes is gonna pass out i would have i would have picked that dude yeah he looked wobbly that would be just like a good uh thing to take odds on take money on all right who's gonna pass out in this oval office meeting let me look let me look i told you about how my friends would like sit around if we were like at dinner and take money on who from a neighboring table was going to stand up last. Oh, wow.

Like, do an NBA ref type, type, Eddie? NBA rough type shit. Yeah. You just need action. I like that of like, which of these old people is going to fall out first.

Mini action? Okay, yeah, yeah. I'll take that. I'll take that. But, uh, yeah, so he passed out. And then we got two amazing reactions,

uh, from Donald Trump and RFK Jr. The guy falls out. Dr. Oz goes to be like, hey, are you? Hey, I'm a doctor.

I'm a doctor. Um, RFK bolts. Look at him. He sees that shit. He said, oh, hell no. Yeah. He got out of there like he'd poison the guy.

Yeah. Like, he had done it. He's like, all right, that shit hit. Okay, I'm out of here. I wonder if he. A weird reality. Like, I can't. I can't.

Do you see the one guy who's like, he's like, where the fuck you going, RFK? Like, he watches him. And he's like, hey, where the fuck? Oh, bro. All right. Happened. I mean, I think he, I think he just has total flight response. that's it right like i think he's just not and look at look at trump the way he's just like

watching it i wonder if he was like here we go take me home to is it time is it the rapture is he the one who just died or what yeah yeah he got i fell asleep fuck where am i i i took a nap oh fuck fuck fuck yeah i mean it's funny to see dr oz actually be a doctor and i was like oh okay he's like going being like oh this person's the need but the way rfk cuts the fuck out is kind of i mean i don't know i got to credit him he he wants nothing to do with helping anyone at all it is like just shamelessly uh cowardly and like fucked up yeah he's just like i'm fucking out of here not even morbid curiosity like a child like what happened like why is that guy laying down oh couldn't be me shot and freud in full effect he's like mm-mm fuck this

just constantly scared like i wonder if he's just you know know any anytime there's any sickness around him or anything like that he's just because he knows he knows what those uh vaccines do you know oh yeah i mean i i wonder if it's just maybe he just knows about cameras he's like they're about take a bunch of pictures because if you think about it trump basically got like one of the best worst photos of this administration was taken during this where there's a man collapsed on the ground everybody's looking at the man like huddled over the man and then Donald Trump is just facing the cameras with his, like, hands out in front of him in that weird, like, kind of zombie pose that he does.

Yeah, exactly. Can't put him in his pockets, just looking into the middle distance while someone, the guy, the one who's holding the dude's ankles up. Yeah, yeah, that's what you do. Trying to get his blood circulating back. I was like, this is such a, whatever. I mean, it's the perfect look, and a thousand memes were launched from it. For all he knows, there's a guy dying four feet to the left of him,

and he just decides to, like, pose, like, a grade school spelling contestant. Yeah. B-E-D, bed. Okay, sir. A giraffe, lion, monkey. Yes, I did it. The IQ test is complete. Giraff lime.

The White House has, of course, denied that Trump was sleeping at all. He was answering questions at various points, just not the points at which he was clearly asleep. Well, they're going to get mad at these photographers. Uh-huh. who got him in 4K. Again, unless my man is doing a Billy Preston impersonation and he's at that organ playing, that's the way God planned it.

That's the way God wants it to be. Yeah, yeah. No, you're fucking asleep. But again, you are 79 years old. You are old. This is what we would expect from a 79-year-old. Yeah, so I don't know. everything like everything you read now is just about denial of reality around him like you know like

when he was asked about affordability he got mad because they're pointing out nothing the prices have gone up and he's like it's a con the democrats are on this affordability con now and a lot of people are like this is a this is like one of the few things as a politician you can't really fuck around with because the people go to the stores and see the prices that they pay you can't then call that a con and now like all the republicans around him are like kind of forced to like not acknowledge a lot of the fucking bad realities because like we've said this he just he is an old 17 about to be octogenarian toddler and yeah we're gonna talk about it tomorrow's episode but it it really feels like we're in the emperor's new clothes type shit where he's just it's it's just

he's fully insulated and he kind of likes it like that you know oh yeah he's just like gonna it's going to put in the new director of statistics to just like make the statistics that he wants. I mean, maybe that if he's going to break the electoral process, then I guess it all makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But clearly he's, he's only now thinking about how he's going to fuck the midterms over. Right. And I'm sure Project 2025 has a plan for that too. But the same thing that happened with Biden.

Like, you want to go and ignore inflation and corporate greed and act like, like, oh, We're getting it under control. People fucking notice every day that they can't afford shit. And you can't, like, you have to do something about that. Or, like, look what happened last Tuesday. Yeah, that's right. All right. Let's take a quick break.

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and we've been keeping close tabs on Kim Kardashian's dude I tried watching the show did you over the weekend wow it's it's surreal it's like not good

it's surreal it feels like like not a real thing. Like they were trying to do, like it's a show inside a show. It's a show on 30 Rock that like Jenna would be on.

Not even then. Like that even has a bit of like fun to it. I'm like, it's directed really weird. Glenn Close's acting isn't great because like the whole situation is just so bad. The pace of the dialogue is really

weird. That's so interesting. Anyway, like, I was just like, I was like, yes, wait, I need to just see it. I couldn't get through the first five minutes. I was like, okay, it's fucking weird. And it's not even fun bad. Like, I wanted to be like, let's get, let's have a laugh. I was like, oh, man, oh, oh, no, no. I can't even know how to follow this right now.

Right. Yeah. Anyway, did she do okay on her bar exam? She might not play a convincing lawyer on TV, but in real life. That's TV, yeah, exactly. We're all, we're all just waiting on the edge of our seats to see if we can hire her for latest lawsuit that we bring against Kroger for prices or you know, whatever.

The All's Fair Star just revealed on Instagram that she didn't pass the bar exam this time. Just a week after she admitted to using Chat GPT to cheat on her law exams. And some people think that even

her statement about not passing the bar was written by ChatGPT. Well, I'm not a lawyer yet. I just play a very well-dressed one on TV. Six years into this law journey and I'm still all in until I pass the bar. No shortcuts, no giving up, M-Dash.

Just more studying and even more determination. Mm-hmm. M-Dash. No shortcuts. I'm using a large language model to write this to study. I've gone on record saying I'm yelling at a large language model for hallucinating.

And why did you make me fail? Oh, my God. Okay. Well, hey, you know, I'm glad we're all on this journey with you. She keeps failing her exams because she's using chat GBT to study. And the chat Gpt is like giving her made up answers because that's what chat GPD does. It's just like a robotic yes man. And it will make up bullshit cases just to like this is the first shortcoming that we found out about as like lawyers.

submitting work to a judge and the judge being like, so these cases that you're citing don't exist. They were made up. And yeah, she's trying to use it to study for the bar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and then, and then yell at it being like, why did you do that to me, chat, GPT? Well, because you studied with the computer equivalent of a man that won't admit they don't know anything and has to say something, even if it's wrong.

So look, hey, six. six years. Here's to another six, Kim. Let's get it done. Let's knuckle down. Okay, let's fucking lock in. That's what all the young people are doing. They're locking in right now. Let's lock in. Lock in, bro. Yeah, they're getting locked in, bro. I was so close to passing the exam and that only motivated me even more. Let's go! Exclamation point. It's time for locking short isn't failure M-Dash. It's fuel. Yeah. Peter Twinklitch. pointed out was like she's fucking crutch what a fucking name using chat gpt you brainless heathens all right scotis is there something wrong you've hardly touched your gay marriage equality yeah you've

hardly dismantled gay marriage equality so yeah uh monday they turned down a request to consider overturning oberg fell because great they just without comment no they were just like yeah kim okay so kim davis if you remember she was that i remember her yeah lurk who is like, God has told me I cannot, I cannot certify this marriage because of my Christian. People are like, sorry, you work for the government. So fuck

your boat. Like you just, as a person working for the government, you're not allowed to discriminate. That's just, it is what it is. So the reason this, a lot of people are like, the way the case as it was really probably wasn't going to pose that much of a threat to Obergefeld because of the state that it's in

because what happened was this couple sued her for not certified their marriage and they got damages like 360,000 in like lawyers fees and she's been fighting that award to try and push back and so she was trying to go to the Supreme Court and be like actually you should just overturn this whole thing so I don't have to pay this fine that I got or this judgment that happened to me back in Kentucky so a lot of court people were like this wasn't going to be the case that the Supreme Court was going to use to absolutely gut marriage right so they're like it's safe for now because clearly there are people who

are open to the idea of completely inverting people's rights like that. But for this one, they're like, sorry, this case just was kind of garbage. And we're kind of pretending we're not totally in the fucking shitter for the MAGA movement. So a no on this one.

So, yeah. A note for me, Doug. And finally, the shutdown is over the Senate advanced the funding bill after eight Democrats, joined the GOP, ending the shutdown. But in return, they got fuck all they got that how you pronounce that yeah faqal fuckle fuck all fuck all yes yes yes yes yes yeah they're the biggest

fucking thing they were pushing we need these health care subsidies to be extended we're not doing shit look at the fucking ls you guys just took on the election look at the polling everyone is blaming you even though the democrats initiated the shutdown they are blaming you the prices are going up The fucking planes aren't flying on time. People are not getting their jobs. They're getting late or their money. They're getting laid off. It's becoming more and more unpopular as this happens.

100. And they're like, okay, fine. We'll do it for no guarantee that the Obamacare subsidies will be extended. They're just going to get a vote. It's really inconceivable. Like, I can't. My only guess is that they were like, scared or

like felt insecure about the latest momentum from more progressive politics and like the younger side of the party and we're like we're going to fucking make sure that everybody knows this party still sucks shit still establishment as fuck.

I mean, I think this is a real healthy reminder that these people in the like the Democrats that have been in office they all need to go. Yeah. These people are not serious. People are going to lose their health care. They already can't afford their health care.

And you have no spine. And every, every Democrats, like, they're like, what the fuck? We have them against the wall. Yeah. Like, and you can deliver for people by actually doing something. And I think the logic out of these eight senators who we absolutely should name and shame, Catherine Cortez, Mastow, Dick Durb, Dick Durbin, John Fetterman, Maggie Hassel.

Hey, wait a second. Yeah, Tim Cain. Angus King, who's independent. Tim Kain, massive. Tim Kine, massive. Jackie Rosen and Gene Shaheen. Yeah, these are the people who, their sort of logic was like, we don't, we want to get SNAP funded. We want to get federal workers paid. We don't want them to like nuke the filibuster and then start doing all these voter suppression things. They had like, they had all these reasons, which I get, that's commendable. But given what

we've heard from people being like, I'm a federal. worker, but I absolutely want you to keep fucking fighting this fight for us. And I get it. Like, you're probably, they're all hearing different things from different, you know, from their constituents. But this was such a huge moment that predictably was completely blown by these people. So, I mean, I'm, I'm not shocked. But again, a good reminder that so many of these people, they're all coming off the same

tree, you know? Is it really just that Trump kept threatening to do worse and worse shit to his hostages? a.k. the American people and then, like, not pay them, not allow them to eat. And the Democrats were like, we got them to agree to not starve them. Yeah. I mean, that's one version and try and act like they're the adults in the room because they, you know, they're like, well, we caved and we came to the table. But I think it's infuriating, given what this administration is doing. And, you know, like part of mounting a good defense, an opposition is to show, like, if your opponent is not playing

the same game, then you certainly can't play the same game you've been playing. Right. And if it's going to be the same thing of like, well, we're just going to let them, they're going to just hang themselves on their own policies. No, you need to fucking fight. And, you know, I think all these people need to be

primaried. And I think people can't forget that this is actually what the Democratic, this is really what the Democratic Party is. Forget all the feel good shit from last Tuesday. Right. This is what it is. Like, they're not serious. Until they're out of power, until the old guard is out of power, this is what it is. um yeah yeah all right on that happy note those are the stories that are trending on this

monday morning we're uh back but hey kim kardashian still not a lawyer so you can can rest on that the great lock in has begun lock in i'm willing to help you i'm a human i'm better than chat gpt okay maybe yeah i yeah i'd say him i'd say him um you have an amazing legal mind oh my god Oh my God, Jack. Like you wouldn't believe. All right. We're back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.

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