The Daily Zeitgeist - The Great Regret Psy Op, Imposter Syndrome Or Just Bad Civilization? 07.27.22

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 247 episode 4 of the daily production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's thursday july 28th 2022 which of course means it is the 28th of yeah also buffalo soldiers day okay if you're not familiar with the uh like black regiments in the civil war the buffalo soldiers this is a day to celebrate the the irony of having them fight for their own liberation in the civil war but yes heroes no less also national water park day national chili dog day i don't know if those two go together because i feel like yeah i mean those two go together and some like could go

together on a good day right on a bad day not so yeah that was that like potential disaster yeah but and also uh national milk chocolate day this This is pretty solid. Milk chocolate, not chocolate milk. Yeah. I mean, shit. No spooky holidays. I love a water park. I just ate a chili dog this past weekend at Griffith Park, at the snack bar at Griffith Park. Adventurous.

And I didn't get sick from it, so I count that as a win. I had, I'm not joking, four hot dogs last night at the dodgers oh yeah you went to the dodgers game did they win by the way because now that i wear a dodgers hat people will like wow just look at me and be like the fucking dodgers right yeah yeah man oh those guys about that uh you know it's we we lost that was it was it, but then fucking, I think it was like Juan Soto or something, just took us home. But anyway, I had a ton of glizzies, so call me Glizelda, because it's just nonstop glizzies over here.

Well, not even at the AKA. That was an AKA aperitif. Oh, yes, an amuse-bouche. Yes, it was. All right. Well well my name is Jack O'Brien aka Mike Breen Mike Breen Mike Breen

Curry hits a three and you yell bang Curse of Schweitz at Schweitz at 8 on Twitter and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! And I said, did you go see anger management?

He said, I did. But then I walked out, and as I recall, I quipped, you're a real tough guy. Then I put him in a rear naked joke. Guy, then I put him in a rear naked choke. Fucking Christy Yamaguchi made that Waffle House. Just very accurately describing the tale of my old high school classmate. Putting someone in a chokehold. Being a real tough guy.

Because they walked out of a movie you hadn't seen. I don't know. Again, I still can't speak to what in my weird adolescent ego. We were all some shit in adolescence 9-11 just happened you know what i mean yeah i'm not gonna blame it all on 9-11 but it certainly didn't help thank you uh well we are thrilled to be joined once again by a very funny comedian presenter, and host of the podcast, Probably Science. Yes, yes. You know him from such things as TV. It's Matt Kirshen!

Hey! What's up? Hello, Matt. How are you doing? Hey, I'm good. I'm very good. I'm happy to be back on the show. How are you guys?

Great. Good. I had no idea it was National Water Park Day. I nearly went to a water park last week and then decided against it. And now I feel like I've let the side down. What happened? Well, I was in Vegas and I was looking for things to do during the day. And I couldn't muster enough support from the other comics.

And going to a water park by yourself is suspicious at best. Yeah. Or just always be like, just like call out for a child. Has anyone seen my kid? Matthew? Matthew? I wonder if he's halfway down this ride. Yeah, exactly.

Have you seen a kid just go down here? I'll just look myself, man. Yeah, I'm just going to ride single rider, single rider. Yeah. Did you find your son? I'm so rider. Yeah. Did you find your son? I'm so worried. Yeah. Did you find your son?

No. Go to a water park with goggles on. That's a real creep move. Yeah. Oh. Goggles and a snorkel. Snorkel. Yeah.

Don't wear a scuba mask to a water park. We did doubly screw up, though, on that same note. So we didn't go to the water park what we ended up going to was an american ninja warrior contest oh amazing it was at the orleans that's what i thought it was at the orleans arena and it wasn't televised so i figured like some of them will be great and that'll be amazing and some will be less great and it'll be doubly amazing and then we get there and all those ninja warriors look young uh they were all pretty small we go to the box office like what's the deal and he goes yeah they're all kids

yeah and here we go it's ticketed and he goes yeah 30 dollars and uh and we were like i i think if you pay 30 bucks to watch children exercise, you end up on a list. Yeah, for sure. And deservedly so, probably. Yeah, me and the other comic, we sort of were like, I think we should leave. Yeah, we should definitely leave right now. Even just being in this building is a step too far.

And yet, I think that would be kind of fun to watch children just like dominate and like do things that i could never dream of being able to do yeah if it was free entry if it was free entry i think we would have got if it was like five bucks as well we would have maybe gone in got some drinks and started like yelling at kids but i think 30 is a suspiciously high amount to pay right if especially if you don't have exercising children that we are not in any way related to right for having no relation to any of the contestants spending 30 signals to the world that you think it's worth the money yeah you know and that's where you have to defend yourself you're like but 30 you're like yeah no some of these kids

i've been following for a while and i'm really excited about some of these guys yeah yeah i guess it would be like really impressive kids and then like wildly dysfunctional families they're supporting them oh they were like they were adults going in with teeth with like wearing things like sweaters that said like ninja mom and stuff yeah they're like they are competitive parents i didn't even know it was a thing let alone that it's enough of a thing that there are competitive parents about it either did i didn't realize about the ninja warrior industrial complex that we're even like getting them young like being like hey man you make sure your kids are like competing young or else they're not gonna have a shot yeah it's just got it yeah they don't develop the muscles right if you don't get

them injuring by the right like you hear that in other sports right like football or like soccer right where they say like look if you're not like playing in a some kind of academy setup by the time you're 12 like you don't even bother yeah like thinking of playing professionally when i guess i wonder if like there's some con artist ninja warrior guys like look man your kid looks look like they love the jungle gym man but if they're trying to get serious about ninja warrior guys like look man your kid looks look like they love the jungle gym man but if they're trying to get serious about ninja warrior like they need to be in the gym yesterday right and no four square no anything except they need to be a one sport athlete american ninja war no four square no british ninja warrior no no uh nothing else no canadian Canadian they better not be meddling with that trash original

IP Sasuke which came from Japan which even inspired the whole thing it's all about American Ninja War don't just ignore the original stuff wait ninjas didn't come from America oh look the jury's still out and I'm half Japanese and I'm still trying to figure it out

this is something Miles and I always disagree on. He says they didn't, and I'm like, come on, man. I got about 30 movies starring Chuck Norris to show you. Why does Donatello have an American accent? Oh, shit, I didn't even thought of that. All right, Matt, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we are talking about today. We're going to talk about the ongoing PSYOP being perpetrated by the mainstream media,

trying to get us all to go back to our shitty jobs, go back to the office. We will talk about imposter syndrome and whether that's actually what's happening there. All of that, plenty more. But first, Matt, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? So I've already given the game away a little bit because a couple of things in my search history are Waterpark Vegas and American Ninja Warrior Vegas. But I can tell you the other thing we landed on, which was Monster Jam Vegas, because that was the last thing I... I was in Vegas for a full week,

and I was pretty bored during the days, so... Monster Jam? I don't even know. That is... Monster Trucks. That is a Monster Truck tournament. Big trucks, huge tires, doing backflips, jumping over

things. It was a delight. And also, the addition of jam makes it feel like they're getting to, like, you know, go off book a little bit. Just, like, noodle around with the monster truck. Like, it's just a monster jam. Yeah, freestyle in a monster truck. Just anyone with their own truck can kind of sit in. It's just a jam, baby. We're just getting down at the Monster Truck Rally.

Hey, do you mind if I... I brought my truck. Do you mind if I just, you know... Do you mind if I jam with you guys? Sure. I mean, I'm in the famous truck called Gravedigger, but what do you got? I got this 01 Chevy S10 with a tonneau cover.

Oh, no, so you're like, we can kind of vibe out with it? It's mostly made from a cigar box. My granddad made it. Yeah, it's been passed down for generations. It's been through a few jams. Wait, was Gravedigger present? Because I feel like at Monster Jam it used to be Bigfoot

was like the monster truck in the 90s. They were both there. Bigfoot and Gravedigger were both there. Oh yes! Then it's a proper monster jam at the Thomas and Mac Arena. That's exactly it. That's where it was. That's the only place it can be.

I thought it was like some like 90s hip-hop remake of the Monster Mash, but I'm glad it is what it is. I've definitely heard from like people who I wouldn't expect necessarily to be Monster Truck fans, just in the traditional sense. Being like, I went to a Monster Truck rally. It's awesome. And now that is something I'm into.

I identify as a Monster Truck person. I don't know if I would put myself that far in the category. But I'm definitely someone who gets bored on the road doing stand up around the country and looks for things to do and you know maybe i'll get something i could talk about on stage out of it or maybe i'll just get an experience out of it that i can tell people about or just enjoy myself for a couple of hours before i go back to the hotel room for you what's been the most fruitful sort of like experimental event you went to like in the same vein? You're like, holy shit, I got a lot more out of this in many levels than I thought I would.

Oh, that's a great question. I don't, I honestly don't know. I think some of the ones that were just surprising, like going to a laser tag with another comic. That was a lot of fun. That was just like, I i was expecting i hadn't been since i was a kid i was like all right let's see how we go and then it was just you know we we absolutely murdered the kids oh my god i realize this is a theme now it's just like real you know you're doing stuff during the day and most people have real jobs so if you go and do these things it normally ends up just being a couple of idiot comedians and then just parents. Like a seventh grade birthday party.

Exactly. I went to a seventh grade birthday party, and I was like, I'll let the kids have their fun. And then one of them shot my kid, and then I was just on a rampage after that. Like, give me the fucking blaster. I was not doing fun stuff. I found a good spot and then just like sniped the hell out of like everyone. Yeah.

Wait, so we're first mudding it. Were you playing an ultra zone? Yeah. I told, we talked about this. Yeah. Where are you at?

Where you used to work? Where I used to work in Dr. Dre watched me make me very uncomfortable. Did you go there too, Matt? It was, it was that where you went for, for laser.

No, where's that? Where's ultra zone? That's in the valley, like in Sherman Oaks. And we don't even need to tell people that usually. Justin, you can cut that out because UltraZone is nationally famous. Everyone knows where UltraZone is. It's the one surviving place, actually. Did you go to UltraZone? Oh, was it UltraZone, man? Oh, UltraZone? No, what is that? Oh, it's probably UltraZone. That's actually the first thing that Miles had on his resume when we were thinking about bringing him on for this show

was a proud alumnus of Ultrazone. Exactly. And no follow-up, just Ultrazone. That's it. Yeah, that's all you need to know. Is a week the longest time you've ever spent consecutively in Vegas? And follow-up, is it the longest time anyone've ever spent consecutively in Vegas? And follow up, is it the longest time anyone has ever spent consecutively in Vegas? Because that feels like a long time to be in Las Vegas.

It is a very long time. I would say Penn and Teller have beaten that amount of time by several decades. But other than that. Yeah, but they have to get out. They must travel every day. Well, they definitely don't live on the strip. I'm pretty sure they live in nice houses and then commute into the

casino. Yeah, I would say that is exactly five and a half days longer than you should ever spend in Vegas. Vegas is fantastic for about 36 hours and that's the limit. I had to work on a Senate campaign

there for two months. Were you on the Strip? Dude, just like literally one block off the Strip. Like at the Candlewood Extended Stays fucking hotel. That's even worse. That's even worse than being full Strip. Matt, you have no idea. This was like right after the subprime crash.

So there were so many displaced people living in this extended stay like hotel, like on Halloween, like kids are trick or treating. And like I had like a front row seat at like the financial collapse of America. And I changed at a molecular level for two months. I'm not going to lie. It definitely put something put some pep in my step to get the fuck out of politics. Alright. What is something that you think is underrated, Matt? Underrated? Well, this is going to... I've got really into the women's Euro soccer tournament right now. And I don't know if it counts

as underrated because it's getting huge. In the UK, it's selling out now. They're selling out stadiums. But they were playing in front of like 50 people recently and now they're paying in front of tens of thousands so i don't know if it is becoming appropriately rated as we speak but it's been awesome yeah it's fantastic hey you're hey england it's coming home huh maybe going to the finals going to the finals and looking actually good so i'm excited about that yeah they beat they beat the breaks off Sweden 4-0. I've been watching too because I love,

like there's so many players I root for on the England team and other teams. But yeah, it's really, really, it's a great watch. It's a great atmosphere. We also have season tickets to Angel City, which is the new women's soccer team there. And it's, again, just awesome. It's great.

It's cannot recommend highly enough like women women's soccer just firstly the game's good but also just it's the most enjoyable atmosphere you go in there and it's just it's it's the most positive supportive it's it's families and then like every lesbian in the greater los angeles area and it's just... A great time. It's just like really... It's really queer. It's really female-friendly. It's really family-friendly.

But also just really competitive and hyped up. And it's fun. Just like men's soccer, right? Just exactly that. Exactly on the terraces in England in the 70s. Exactly that. Racial slurs you've not even considered. exactly exactly on the terraces in england in the 70s exact same same exactly that yeah

racial slurs you've not even considered yeah right ones that will confuse you exactly you've got to you've got to unpick it like a crossword clue you're like you have to work it out before you know to be offended you know what's it oh oh oh do you think that's what they meant? Yeah, yeah, okay, that is. Oh, hey! Wait, so they were playing to 50 people, and then... I mean, 50 is a little bit of an exaggeration, but it has been... Yeah, they've been playing in front of a few thousand,

and in the smaller stadiums and stuff, and it's just getting bigger and bigger. And because the tournament's in England, the England games in particular, they've been selling out Premier League grounds. And the final is at Wembley Stadium and it's already completely sold out. So that's, I don't know what Wembley's capacity is,

but it's in the high five figures. Yeah, it's like 70 or 80,000 something. 90, it's 90. 90, there we go. And also shout out beth mead who's the top scorer for england and the tournament also plays for arsenal women's no i can as just as you moved your head i saw the emirates logo oh yeah yeah you saw yeah you saw the kit you know i'm i'm i'm totally gunner brained so i'm like i'm like that's why like i'm watching everybody look at them all flourish. I love it. Wish the Dutch did a little bit better, though.

Yeah, me too. I think it's implied. I meant me too. I wish the Dutch did better. Saw the Emirates logo. Totally know what that means. Excited about this as well. What's something you think is overrated? I was torn on this one. Can I have two?

Because I couldn't decide between sweet potato fries and the Beach Boys. Alright. I think sweet potato fries is a great call and pretty self-explanatory. Let's go in on the Beach Boys. Just too

twee and diddly. I just can't do it. I can't do it. I can't do it. I'll give you some of Pet Sounds and when Brian Wilson went really off the rails, that was basically just Brian Wilson by that point just in an acid casualty cocoon without the Beach Boys. But most of it's just too diddly for me. Yeah. Even Pet Sounds. So i am a beach boys fan even pet sounds i feel like you have to sometimes pretend they're singing

in a different language that you don't know to appreciate it because the words are like so it's like wait did an 11 year old write this song? Like the, the, like arrangements are beautiful. The instrumentation, like the production is so incredible. And then it's like, wouldn't it be neat if we got to. I'll give you the lyrics of God only knows. I'll give you that. Yeah. Which, I mean, there's a sweetness to some of it, but yeah sometimes i'm just like i'm gonna just turn the

language receptors off in my brain for this one and sometimes that's okay but i i do have to defend the artistry of mike love not just my favorite beach boy maybe my favorite artist of all time uh this man is responsible for kokomo he He's responsible for telling Brian Wilson to fuck off with all his creative cleverness of pet sounds. One of he's responsible for flashing a thumbs up and wearing a captain's hat about 50 times in every performance that I've ever seen of him just took being a world-class piece of shit capitalist to levels of artistry that I don't think anyone like he was the person who like kind of sent Brian Wilson

off the rails he was like that sound sucks dude sorry to tell you we can put it out it's not gonna sell and then it didn't sell and Brian Wilson was was like, fuck, I'm the worst. And stayed in bed for like three years. What was the intersection with Charles Manson? Was it like the drummer that was friends with him or something? One of the Wilson brothers, I think maybe Dennis Wilson. Yeah, the drummer. Charles Manson was just like a sociopath who was like hang around everybody that was famous and wanted to be they lived in his house for a while like the family actually lived in his house for a bit he got him to record a couple of songs with him yeah and when you listen to charles manson's

music like i do every day just to get get myself right in the morning show it's like heavily heavily influenced it's like if i just all of a sudden tried to record a beach boy song alexa plays charles manson on spotify don't do that to people is is there an iheart radio manson channel is there oh you better believe it yeah well serious you got to check out Sirius XM's right it's just 24-hour Manson family uh demos it's just old Rush Limbaugh episodes they play and then just occasionally held to skelter by the Beatles right yeah just to kind of spice it up I think one of the motivations for like the killings at like the tate labianca murders was that they were going to that house because that's where a record producer lived who had like turned

down his demo so like his whole thing was he just wanted to be famous and he was like well hanging out with the beach boys didn't work i guess guess we'll go with this. And to be fair, mission accomplished. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know his name probably. I knew his name before I knew Dennis Wilson's name. Yeah. So in your face, Dennis Wilson. Wow.

Half a century later, he's still being spoken about on a radio show. Yeah. Exactly. Wow. I just like the idea that there's just this one anecdote where it said, oh, it says when Wilson took Manson, an aspiring musician to record at his studio, Manson had a disagreement with Wilson's producers and ended up pulling a

knife on them. Yeah. You know, so, but this was also the, this was the sixties. So, you know,

that's just, I don't think that's that unusual behavior for a musician. He said, they're just like always one of those temperamental ones. Right, exactly. That's how they would just settle disputes was always the beat it music video style where you put your hands together and like do the knife dance. You think Phil Spector didn't pull knives on recording engineers all the time? Right.

Phil Spector stayed with his knife out. time right phil specker stayed with his knife out and then when when it was a special when it was a special time he would start licking off shots in the wall of sound was actually a bunch of knives on a board that he would move closer to the performing artists to be like all right matt miles yes let's take a quick break okay we'll come back and we'll talk about the news shall we agreed all right Miles. Yes. Let's take a quick break. Okay. We'll come back and we'll talk about the news, shall we? Agreed. All right. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, we're just checking in. like to check in with the continued psyop that's happening and in your bloomsburg in your uh fortunes where they're just trying to make people feel bad about leaving their jobs and like trying to take some autonomy over their own careers they're like man people people don't like it people regret that they did that they're coming back and saying sorry daddy to their old employers exactly where they have to crawl through a dusty like fucking crawl space like homer when he has to beg for his job back from mr burns and he's all like yeah is this is this an op-ed by any chance written by uh

jonathan boss of management company by c montgomery burns actually but so like about a week ago you know we brought up this like constant back and forth and especially the financial news sector that kept waffling between people are quitting help what do we do into actually gen z hates remote work and that's a good thing so people who like remote work are dumb was sort of like the gist of it like what the fuck is going on i also author commercial landlord of commercial landlording exactly that people hate working remotely the young people do not like it as well i asked a group of ninth graders what they thought of remote work they don't fuck with it and it's like that's not a good sample size so in the last two weeks now we're seeing fucking headlines like this.

This is from Bloomberg. Millions of Americans regret the great resignation. Huh? Then Fortune magazine with the financial yes and comes through with the great regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook. Now, see, this is I like to see this balance that's coming out with pieces like this, because the first headline serves as an announcement that, um, actually, people regret looking for better prospects and outcomes for their lives. But keep in mind what they're when you look at this sort of sub headline, it says about one quarter of job leavers rue the decision. Oh, that's three quarters don't. Yeah yeah three quarters of people are glad they left their

job so really 75 percent of people that left their jobs aren't regretting it maybe that's the fucking headline and i like that they can use it because it's the american workforce it can sound like millions but let's not get away get ahead of ourselves you said 75 percent love that is higher than i and i think most people would expect like that somebody leaving their job just because but let's not get ahead of ourselves. You said 75%. That is higher than I, and I think most people would expect that somebody leaving their job just because they're like, nah, fuck it. I don't really like this job

and I'll find something better. That 75% are like, that actually worked out. It's pretty incredible. It's not what I would expect. That's awesome. There's a lot of projection. Also just projecting desire and intention onto what's actually just pragmatism and expediency. People who weren't being paid for a job during the pandemic and were being given benefits stopped doing that job.

And now a lot of those benefits have been taken away they need jobs again right and so have had to apply it going like oh these people did this for this and did that no they just they they just did the normal thing that everyone normally does which is way up a basic pro and con cost benefit analysis of do i need to do this job that I hate right now or do I not need to do this job? Well, look who needs rent. And so now it's actually... Oh, you regret that decision, do you? At any given time, most people do the least bad job that would give them enough money

to be able to survive. That's just all that's happening. Where that line is moves up and down depending on circumstance. And that's all that's happened. That line has just moved up and down. on circumstance right that's all that's happened that line has just moved up and down i think yeah and it's really just trying to have reckon with the like the fact that the the initial shutdown from the pandemic really gave people a moment to pause and like reset their expectations for themselves and guess what 75 of those people

were like i did i made the right move and maybe the other 25 probably fell into a different situation they might not be like actually i actually went to a job i didn't like out of necessity more so that i regret leaving it so right they're still in the american workforce it's not great it's not great out there but like not at all yeah it's yeah it's not like everyone's just doing luau's now yeah it's also like i mean this is a net gain 75 percent of people leaving jobs they like for jobs they like more is a net gain and that was made possible by the great resignation which was made possible by the government just giving the least amount of assistance just like a small amount of assistance that would give people breathing room

to be like all right now i can actually like look at my life and think about like things for with like some objectivity instead of just being right fucking check to check every single day and like think about how much happier that has made america overall and the working from home thing like i'm not a hundred percent advocate for working from home there are things that i think like i i i think writing rooms like tv writing rooms are still better i love being in a room with people bouncing off them i think the energy is still better than being on zoom but you don't need to be in there all the time you can do a lot of it remotely and then have like the kind of meetings it's just hammered home how much of most jobs is just busy work and giving the appearance of working and how much of it is just bullshit busy work and giving the appearance of working

and how much of it is just bullshit as a result. And I think that's what the last two years have done more than anything else. It's just really pulled the curtains back and just shown how much of most jobs is acting the part and completely unnecessary and showing willing. Yeah, exactly. Capitalistic pantomime, basically. Right. For people to be like yes see i am creating value by typing on keyboard and then talking to my friends for the rest of the other six hours

that i'm fucking here yeah i turns out i can do this job in three hours a day but i have to still appear to be here eight hours a day to give the justification for this job no why not just if they're getting the job done in three hours pay them for those three hours what you would pay them for the eight hours. Yeah, Matt, the last time you were on, I was out, but that was before the pandemic, so you don't know this about me, but before the pandemic, I had just a slick-to-the-side hairdo, three-piece suit at all times, and a pocket watch that I would check religiously every 90 seconds, take a deep breath, and just mop my brow a little bit so and then right you're going to tip your quill in a putter yeah yeah exactly furiously

writing down notes on your parchment paper uh and then saying that won't do that won't do but then this like fortune article is sort of like yes anding it but trying to give like this it says the great regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook and what they talk about me it says like hey just because some of these people fucking regret trying to better their lives it doesn't mean you the employer can just fucking skate by with your toxic workplace and like you know expectations of employees, which is sort of like threading the needle in between where it's sort of like, yes. And the idea that like a lot of people are regretting it.

And I'm sure some people do. But then like sort of giving maybe someone who's reading this the false sense of security or like or being like, oh, OK, this sounds good because now they're sort of trying to signal to the employer class that they have things that they have to do in order for me to go back to fucking toil for a pittance when we're trying to have a living wage. So it's just sort of, it's interesting to see how

they all kind of work together to kind of be like, all right, now we're in the new phase of saying people fucking regret seeking better opportunities. Right. Don't be too hard on them out there, fellas. Alright? We know they fucked up, alright? And they know they fucked up, so just

go easy, alright? Don't be trying to get them back to work by offering better conditions and pay and anything like that. Because they're regretting. Yeah. Let's not have any kind of inflation of pay or benefits

or anything like that no better conditions just we'll just keep everything the same and everyone will eventually hopefully come back there's this other thing right then fortune two weeks ago had this this is in the fucking same section many people who joined the great resignation

regret it and it means bosses can take back power what the fuck wow is that an opinion piece like for honest like i'm really curious um don't worry what if it's an opinion or analysis like it's fucking it's real dude it's fucking real and holy they go to this other thing that they're saying like yeah man a lot of the people who say they miss it they miss their work family their work family yeah oh my god they're doing the thing they're legitimizing the uh ceo talking point of look uh welcome welcome to the job but really you're not being welcomed to a job you're being uh welcomed to a family we're really a family around here and as has been pointed out that means you're about to get fucked by whatever job

is telling you you're a you're a family yeah because you can choose you can't choose your family right yeah exactly it's a dysfunctional abusive family where we actually don't truly give a fuck about you but we pretend to and you still have to like hang out with us but you can't you can't really get away with get away the other thing too is like this is really instructive where they say like the people that regret it this is from this that article says bosses can take the power back the biggest reason workers are feeling quitters remorse is that they gave notice without another job lined up yep yeah that's how that's again practical that sounds like the group of people who'd be like i fucked that up huh i just quit the job and didn't have any other prospects lined up now i guess sometimes you quit because there's no fucking you're like

there's no way i can continue at this job but that seems like pretty spot on for someone who like so did you know of the people who were who quit a job and not having a job lined up do you regret that and yeah what 40 like yeah that was bad and then they're saying like look at this man now you got the opportunity for what they call quote boomerang employees who will return to daddy yeah and some of those people regret having like taken a dump in the ceo's office and then burning the parking lot down right yeah those guys regret it i shit on his laptop and then closed it on the shit it's like that i shouldn't have closed it on the shit and we might have been able to salvage this thing yeah because there's no amount of rice that you

can put that in now no yeah yeah that's pretty much useless but yeah like of all those i honestly think that one fortune one that says like just because people don't like aren't you know maybe only three quarters of people don't regret going back doesn't mean you can't you know adjust your shitty workplace i mean i think at the end of the day that should be the one thing that if it does feel like usable information for an employer is that like dude the biggest thing that most people fucking hate about a job is the work culture or the office culture or if it's toxic or feels like there's no place for them to be human and also they're not paid enough to have feel like they have any autonomy oh jacks if you read if you read in these other articles they say dude some people

don't care if they're not getting paid as much if the environment's chill enough and they like the people there around. It's like they get the finger trap things from a secession. Right. There's from severance. Right, right, right. Is this wild to read? Like just sort of how that's articulated to like to these people to say, hey, dude, they'll fucking take shit money if it's like more funsies right yeah one ping pong table is worth like 30 grand a year i know right exactly how many what's your yeah what's your bean bag bean bag to like mono stool ratio right in your office

what's your bean bag to health insurance ratio like it also makes sense of the fortune thing that like they so they published the article that was like transparently openly and somewhat aggressively uh sociopathic that was like employees regret quitting and now here's how to pounce and take advantage of them and then like somebody in their editorial room again we've talked about how like people in journalism aren't like they they're not like churned out by like the cia they're you know people with souls and uh working brains so somebody in their editorial room was like uh that like that came off. Like, we should do something else. And, like, so two weeks later, they churn out this one that is like, the great regret doesn't mean employers are off the hook.

So, it's like that's their counterbalance. But it still takes place in a universe where it's like, oh, these little fuckers are so screwed, man. Well, it still takes place in a universe that where the great regret is an assume an assumed truth yeah that people will be reading about in history this thing that's definitely true doesn't mean that this other stuff isn't also valid but yeah oh man anyway so continue to advocate for better outcomes for yourself and don't listen listen these fucking nonsense articles that are just meant to pacify people.

Especially ones and articles named after billionaires who are only have a thing because they're billionaires or named after a euphemism for billions of dollars. Fortune. Euphemism for exploiting people's labor. Fortune. Magazine. Soldier of. Never mind. All right. Let's take a Fortune magazine. Soldier of... Never mind. All right.

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This is a publication that I highly recommend people check out. It's also the source of that conversation we had a while back about the complete, like, That conversation we had a while back about the complete like neutering and desexualization of all like modern blockbusters and like how the sex has just been as characters and actors have gotten like more and more buff and like indistinguishable from one another in terms of like how what they look like in movies. They've just completely removed any sex from the most popular movies in America. It was a very interesting article. So they have a new article on imposter syndrome that I thought was really interesting. I feel like it ties into our recent conversation

on social media, making people unhappy. And just right now about bullshit jobs. Yeah, about bullshit jobs, our conversation about Sunday scaries. We actually had a listener reach out after that conversation saying that like their Sunday scaries went away when they went from, you know, unfulfilling spreadsheet work, basically helping employers make the case for postponing people's raises to working on behavior tech for like children with disabilities, which that makes sense. It's like when I started doing something that was like fulfilling, not didn't pay as much, but it was like fulfilling at a deeper level. I stopped

having existential dread on Sundays. So anyways, the essay on imposter syndrome basically suggests that we feel like imposters. Like it starts out with talking about like Tina Fey and Meryl Streep are two examples of people who are, you know, Meryl Streep, one of the finest living American actors, Tina Fey, one of our greatest joke writers. And they've both talked about how they feel like imposters. And we've always just treated it like it's a pathology of the difference between how great you are and how great people say you are, and then what you feel like on the inside. And this essay basically posits that we feel like imposters when we get success in the modern American system because the system itself is empty

and basically designed to make rich people richer at the end of the day. So is it kind of arguing that it's not that, sayina fey feels like an imposter as a creator of tv and movies of comedic content but she feels like an imposter for being part of this hollywood machine because of her incredible talent at making tv and movies yeah and because like so it talks about how people who suffer from imposter syndrome a lot of the time are upwardly mobile. They're people who have experienced, you know, they're not the people who are like the CEO's son is not experiencing like imposter syndrome when the CEO makes him COO because they've like never known anything else is people who've like worked their way up and then they get to that level and they're like oh everyone is suddenly like treating me or paying me

in such a way that like like i've like escaped the human condition but like i know all the people who i worked with on the way up are more talented than any of these dipshits like up here. And like, I see like how arbitrary the success is and like the, you know, the, just the whole design of the system being, you know,

designed to just deliver success via nepotism or via like a college degree or something like that. like something that is it's just a sense that like it delivers rewards in a way that is like not doesn't make any sense and and like you can kind of take a moment once you achieve success and be like oh this is the whole thing is like bullshit it's like yeah i got here randomly yeah like or it comes out in survivor's guilt too i know for a lot of like marginalized people yeah too just like when you get up there it manifests in survivor's guilt you're like why me of all the people because i know other people who look like me or come from similar circumstances who don't have a third of

the opportunity and you begin to be like well then what the fuck do i have like maybe but this is bullshit i've i've definitely experienced that myself where i was like felt guilt over the fact that i was upwardly mobile and was like well what the fuck does that mean and i think what's important though to even point out about imposter syndrome is that when that when that term was coined in the late 70s the people who did that study had like they didn't they didn't they never actually factored in like what like classism systemic racism or like xenophobia those kinds of biases like how that actually factors into how people experience their lives too and like in the harvard business review they were also saying like there's an interesting way to even look at imposter syndrome. Like there is that feeling

where there's like a disconnect between what value you feel you're providing versus what you think is valuable. And then also this idea that you will feel like naturally marginalized people, women, women of color will are going to feel like imposters because they're just, they're absent from representation in a lot of these spaces, or they experience a lot of microaggressions or just up, just straight up aggression, racism, whatever, when they get to these positions. So that adds to this feeling of feeling like, oh shit, am I supposed to be here? And so it's like, it's very like multi-layered, which is really interesting and like and a lot

of people sort of advocate for it rather than saying hey what's wrong with you why you got imposter syndrome it's like why aren't we dealing with the environment that's creating these people who are like very unsure about themselves too because that's a lot of this is a reflection of the environments that people are like existing in yeah for sure i mean like that and they also point out like those who have actual jobs that make sense and produce genuine value for society like teachers farmers firefighters cooks truck drivers make significantly less money work under more dangerous conditions and are generally not the people who are struggling with imposter syndrome you know i don't know though i know i know a bunch of teachers who have imposter syndrome as well who are like in front of we're like i don't know i know you mean

like they're like uh my idiot friends who i'll be up with until like three in the morning they're like oh god i gotta teach like french tomorrow right yeah yeah and they're like oh why is anyone listening to me right exactly they're like they think i'm like a responsible adult and right an idiot like i just bought a bunch of tickets to a kid's ninja warrior event yeah i mean we recently talked about like just this idea of like a lot of the issues that we have attributed to you know different ills coming like social media we see a lot of stories about social media you know causes people to be unhappy and the american workforce causes people to be unhappy and it's like i feel like it's all kind of part of this modern gestalt of like just you know the the condition where like existing inside a system

that no matter how much like you subscribe to like the rise and grind and like i'm i'm on you know i believe in the american dream type shit like there's a part of you that can't be tricked that might not be conscious it might not like be the part of your brain that you even put language to. But like, you know, and this article says about CEOs in the marrow of their bones, they know they're imposters, too. Like when they're like, oh, yeah, I should I should make like thousands times more money than, like, my lowest level employee. I'm definitely, yeah, I'm definitely 5,000 times more important to the creation of this car than the guy who puts the brakes on. Yeah, exactly. And, like, on social media, which I think we all, like, kind of, a lot of us, I won't say all, I all i know like some younger people who have smartly just

been like oh yeah i don't fuck with social media because it's so so toxic but like you know on social media like you know is making people unhappy and the like it's a gameable system that delivers no value to the intended audience or the creator when you win really you're competing to make the apps better at robbing people of their free will like it's like I I wish I

was more online in some ways and I wish I was better at playing the game but because it's it does have value I've got friends who are great comics who have found their audience through various social medias and now people come out and see them live and that's, and they wouldn't have done otherwise. And I, that makes me really happy for them, but there's a part of me that just balks at all of that. Like I technically have an Instagram. I post on it once every six months or so when i remember to do it right it's uh i i use twitter a lot more and i wish i didn't but yeah i love twitter but like it's

i and i think like part of what i like about twitter is it is the worst at marketing like it sucks at marketing like i've never clicked on a twitter ad but like whereas instagram i like check instagram once every couple weeks and like almost like the the only online ads that have ever gotten me to make a purchase are on instagram like instagram is a very powerful marketing tool and i don't know like the qbc basically yeah it's and, basically. Yeah. It's creepy how much Facebook knows about you. It's just creepy how much it has its tendrils. And how they can triangulate. It's like,

this person likes this food and this kind of music. Guess what? They're going to like this cooking product somehow. And even more specifically, this person was stood next to these three people at these three times. So I bet she wants to buy this hat. And you're like, oh god. like this person was stood next to these three people at these three times so i bet right right yeah she wants to buy this hat i mean oh god you're the whole thing is being fueled by like

the collective brilliance of a extremely underemployed generation that is you know smarter than any generation before that's true of like every new generation. And, but like they, you know, all the wealth is being hoarded by the older generations and they're just, you know, toiling away on these social media projects that the wealth is being extracted to like a handful of billionaires in a suburb of San Francisco.

And it's like, that's, it's not a just system. Which in turn is ruining San Francisco. Right, exactly. And it's the whole, you know, it's not that social media is necessarily bad. It's not the people who feel like imposters are imposters. It's that they are all feeling at some level that they are you know the entire fabric of the system they exist inside and strive to succeed in is actually designed to make rich people and their kids richer and keep other people from getting their money and like it's

it's that simple like when you like more and more we're're just seeing like, oh, that's it. Like that's it all goes back to that. Like they're affecting the political system. And when you succeed, you realize that probably more than you did when you were like working your way up. And if you notice the how arbitrary and like pointless a lot of this shit is and i don't know i i also feel like we've like specifically with regards to social media we've lost our free will more and more because it is like brilliantly designed to market to us and they nudge us in a little direction yeah just yeah and you know replace whatever your wants like it it does not want you to be satisfied it wants you to you know feel unsatisfied and feel like you need to purchase something in order to like whether that's in a broad sense of like a purchase buy into a lifestyle uh it's it our whole like inside like that i kept thinking when i was like thinking about this the past couple days of that part in stranger things where they like cut the kid open and it's like cotton balls inside because it's like a replica thing and like i don't know it i think that is a potent metaphor because we are like

filled with artificial like metaphysical circuitry at this point it's just all it's all been packed in there and it's like circus peanuts in the inside i feel like sometimes like it's just yeah it feels a bit like because it's not just keeping you unsatisfied, it's keeping you constantly anxious. Yeah. It reminds me a bit of the way that people who are addicted to cigarettes, like cigarettes don't actually make you calm. They just reduce the uncalmness of craving a cigarette. Right. Yeah, exactly. The cigarette doesn't calm you down. It just stops that tension and unpleasantness and anxiety you feel because you have a craving for nicotine and then it's it's sated. And it sort

of does that same thing. It just keeps you just on the edge of anxiety constantly, so that it can then take away that anxiety from not having this thing. But it's not actually bring you joy and calmness. It's just bringing you the absence of that lack of calmness. Right. And I think that's probably at the end of the day, that's what so many people are like grappling with is trying to like reconcile this. Like what you're told is how the world works and who deserves what and who gets what. And then you experience and you're like, wait, this is so fucking weird. what and then you experience and you're like wait this is so fucking weird like i think of just how hard i've like like had to work to to try and find better jobs to try and like be in spaces or like i

could feel like i could use all of my talents properly and then you get to some places and you really you begin to question you're like why can't everyone fucking just be happy like why can't they why aren't they able to pursue what they want to do and why is everything so fucking finite and not that we have to live in a utopia where if like if you want to be in the nba you can be in the nba but at least have the like freedom to pursue these things and like we look and that sort of in turn kicks off a whole examination of like your life circumstances and things like that. And you're like, wow, like everything's so fucking arbitrary. And because of that, it also feels like violence for the people who aren't like somehow get a pull of like a proper number in the cosmic lottery of like existing.

And then you're like, but then we're also sold this thing of like, hey, everybody can experience happiness or whatever, or like have a living wage and things like that. And you look and you're like, then we're also sold this thing of like hey everybody can experience happiness or whatever or like have a living wage and things like that and you look and you're like that's not the fucking case so why the fuck do i get it and i think that also sets off this other like existential dilemma for some people too as you look inward and trying to like reckon all of these feelings have a reckoning with all these feelings. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Social media is specifically, it's just like you're taking the sharp and spear point of capitalism and sticking it in your brain.

Like, capitalism has gotten very good at marketing and social media is, like, all of those things, like, brought together and it's just constantly like it is the most like the closest that humanity has come to the singularity because it's just using all of our collective like brilliance and like the movement of human thought and you know applying it to itself and you using that to just like rob us of our free will and uh and you can find me on twitter at mac kershen here we go instagram at matt underscore kershen i was literally about to end the show and ask you where people could find you so uh right i am guilty as fuck of all this stuff no and but i think that's what's interesting

right is that there are there are many levels of people who I think are just in touch with their own anxieties, right? Like, Matt, you know yourself well enough. You're like, I don't know, man. Like, I wish I could use Twitter like I see other people use it. But for me personally, I'm just you're wired in a way where it's like it doesn't, you're not seeing the benefits that you would from using it. In fact, I'll even do things like I'll move it over a screen in my, on my phone. You know, you, you know, I've got, I've got the social media apps in a folder and I'll move it onto page four of that folder. And then three days later, my thumb reflex has just adapted to just go like, okay, when I open Twitter now, I, I tap on the folder and then it's just one, two,

three swipes instead of just one swipe. And it's just, it's that, when I open Twitter now, I tap on the folder and then it's just one, two, three swipes instead of just one swipe. And it's just, yeah, it's there. And it's just, it just becomes like a new automatic. It takes an extra two days to learn the new automatic move. And I had the same thing too, where I was feeling like, I just, a certain part of me was like, ah, this is like, when I was younger, I was like,

I'm just using this to like stunt on people all the time. That was all I was using. And so I'm like, watch me be in this place watch me be with these people and i was like this is for my fucking ego and it's like the most temporary fleeting shit and i was like this isn't really giving me anything of substance but i enjoy like seeing other people do things and i try and put myself in the bracket of like a social media user who like knows their own limits with how it can affect them and tries to like healthily navigate that. Then you have people who are completely off of it. And I think you also have people who are completely immersed in it and might not actually be seeing what it's what's happening to them because self-awareness doesn't come easily or cheaply. And especially not now, and especially when you're in the, you know, grips of the most powerful

marketing tool in the history of the human civilization. Right. That makes self-awareness pretty hard to come by. Right. And that's why I think I try and, like, find the positives in it. And, like, what you're talking about, Matt, too, is, like, connecting to people, like, being able to disseminate ideas that are positive and things like that. I still, I'm trying to get better at curating my Twitter as well.

Like I'm trying to sort of unfollow or even block anything that isn't just someone who shares interesting stories or someone who shares funny jokes. Like just like, I'm trying, I'm not, with limited success, but I'm trying to get out of the kind of like so he said this and he said that and like you say and then i'm gonna dive in and just you know dunk on someone to massage my ego just to and then they get angry and then i get out it's it's right it's not a healthy way to be not at all and i think it's important to note too like right like you're getting we get so worked up by a fucking plastic rectangle with glass on it like we're not if we put that down we can experience like more you know substantive

deeper relationships with people and even strangers on the street but like we let's not get carried away well i mean i i tried i high-five strangers all the time uh a lot of times i get left hanging but well i think at the end of day, it's realizing how much we're surrendering to like this, which, which essentially is a device too, I think is another was an easier way for me to sort of contextualize what my relationship is, it is to this is like, oh, I'm giving an outsized portion of my consciousness, my attention to this, like illusion that I have on my phone, when I could be spending that time to just sort of be more present and to be more mindful and things that will help me, you know, actually navigate the chaos of our world than feeling inadequate constantly or not having the latest graphic

jumper set. Yeah. I would just say the only piece of media you really need is this podcast. Thank you. That's don't worry about any, anything else. You just need to listen to us twice a day. And yeah, and you're good. Maybe more Matt, truly a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist.

Where can people find you and follow you? Well, thanks. Yeah, it's been a joy. Thanks for having me again. So yeah, like I said, Twitter at Matt

Kirshen or Instagram, which I'm technically on, Matt underscore Kirshen. And then Probably Science is my podcast. We go through the week in science news with comedians. So Probably Science on all of the various podcast apps. How are you feeling about the web pictures and

what were you getting back from the web telescope? It's exciting. I like it. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool. about the web pictures and what we're getting back from the web telescope. It's exciting. I like it. All right. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty cool. There was that worry that it might have been damaged a bit more than they first thought by micrometeorites, but it looks like it's still giving some pretty amazing things. So, yeah, it's very cool.

Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? This is, yeah, this is so dumb, but this is just a really stupid video, but it really made me laugh. This comic, Matt Hyten, who does various videos, he's just superimposed Rishi Sunak, who is one of the two people who may or may not be the next British Prime Minister, two people who may or may not be the the next british prime minister into an episode of east enders while he is doing a very bad job of pouring a pint on a public meet and greet junket it's uh it's really silly it's really simple and i love it it's it's rishi sunak politician trying to do the thing where he goes meets the public and looks natural and for some in britain by the way this is

just i don't think they do this in America. It's just a thing in Britain where politicians, you know, in America, they might go and like eat a sandwich in a cafe or something like that. Yeah, yeah, have a hot dog at the fair. Exactly. And one of the things they have to do on that note, if you're a British politician,

is stand behind a pub and pull a pint. And that's just a thing. And Rishi Sunak, who, by the way, I believe is T-Total and certainly looks out of place in any kind of pub setting, but he chose this as his place to do the press junket, is doing an incredibly bad and slow job of pulling a pint. And he's just intercut it with the soap opera EastEnders with people standing in a pub looking furious at him. And yeah, I'll give you the link.'s it's a delight it's it's simple it's stupid it made me laugh out loud i always love those like cultural things where like a

politician like it's like you didn't fucking kiss a baby you didn't go to the fair to eat a corn dog you fucking communist and i like this it's like you didn't fucking pour a pint at the pub oh fuck yeah you you did it you did pour a pint at the pub. Oh, fuck. Yeah, you did it. You did pour a pint, but you did it slowly. It took a while. You fool. Miles, where can people find you?

What is the tweet you've been enjoying? Let's see. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. Check out the latest episode of Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Yeah, fantastic. Fantastic episode with Jasmine Watkins. Hey, check out the latest episode of Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Yeah. Fantastic. Fantastic episode with Jasmine Watkins. Also check out if you like 90 Day Fiance.

Well, why don't you check it out with me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Let's see a couple of tweets. I like first one. Just feels so accurate to all the sneakers and these sneaker heads out there. Camp arm. Eric at Eric J underscore D tweeted. Nike's current business model is. Hey, remember the shit your parents. feels so accurate to all the sneakers and these sneaker heads out there camp arm eric at eric j underscore d tweeted nike's current business model is hey remember the shit your parents wouldn't buy you when you were 12 well here it is we doubled the price but you have your own credit card now uh yeah that's feels about fucking accurate uh for me because i think as a kid when

i whenever i wanted more than one pair of sneakers a year, like for the school year, mom was like, that's why you get a job. And that's why now I have, that's how I justify all my sneakers. But I'm trying, I'm quitting, I'm quitting. And another one is from at Molly Lambert, the great Molly Lambert tweeted, a cool thing I do now is when the internet isn't loading fast enough, I say, come on, Jack! To it in the Joe Biden voice. And, you know, there's nothing better than hitting up with a good old Biden Jack. How you open PDF, Jack? Was that the quote from that? Yeah, how do you open

PDF, Jack? And it was that picture of him licking an ice cream cone. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Mad Boosties with Miles Gray. That show is really fun. I have a lot of fun doing that show.

Very stupid. Go for the stupidity stay for the fuego basketball take. I just really like the shirts that go hard. Twitter recently liked one. It was just a black shirt with white writing that said Elvis is dead. Sinatra is dead and me i feel also not so good and there was another one that was similar design single and ready to get nervous around anyone i find attractive you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, man. I mean, we were just talking about pet sounds right one of the greatest albums of all time no well here it is yeah well that we're actually gonna go out on this

artist called not the twos uh who i believe his or what's his real name something maxi and i don't want to say the basketball player tim maxi uh i know it's a team maxi but i didn't want to go the wrong way exactly like i would forget and call therese maxi tim maxi tim maxi uh i know it's a team maxi but i didn't want to go the wrong way like i would forget and call therese maxi tim maxi tim maxi i know and i was about to call tim maxi therese maxi but he okay so he started he's a producer and collaborated with kendrick lamar on mr brown the big steppers and you probably heard exactly unified in grief and basically like a theme throughout the entire album. He's about to put out some solo work under the name Not The Twos.

And this track is called Paradise. And if you you'll recognize the vocals very quickly. But he does it in a very like his own way. He's like a multi instrumentalist producer. And it's got this like kind of like i get almost if the manson family band had like fucking swag they might sound like this yeah so yeah check this out this one's called paradise by not the twos had some like children ghosts in the in the vocal arrangement and just like spooky drums like a lot of reverb anyway it's really it's a really dope track and i'm looking very much forward to the rest of the work from Not The Tubes. Alright, well the Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more

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