The Daily Zeitgeist - The Great Trendsignation 2/23: LGBTQ+ Rights, NYC Subway, Queen Elizabeth, Teflon Don, Tom Hardy, March TV
Episode Date: February 23, 2022In this edition of The Great Trendsignation, Jack and Miles discuss Red States attacking LGBTQ+ rights, NYC testing subway platform barriers, Queen Elizabeth NOT being dead, the dirt refusing to stick... to Teflon Don, the behind the scenes drama on 'Mad Max: Fury Road', and March (TV) Madness! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of the great transignation
i am jack you are miles yeah that short show title courtesy of you no no it was from the discord
oh i mean i want to say johnny davis but in my mind that's what i'll just default to all the
time and who would have known it's johnny. Johnny Davis. JD. Johnny Davis.
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Cool.
Yeah.
See, I can give nicknames too.
Yeah.
Just like Trump.
Real cool guy.
Cool.
All right.
Well, here's some things that are trending.
Red states are continuing to attack LGBTQ plus rights. The Texas governor Abbott is directing state agencies to investigate some
transgender medical treatments as child abuse.
Yeah.
And also even like having like school officials,
like be on the hunt for kids they suspect are trans in order to like find out
if the parents are doing any kind of
gender affirming treatment uh to separate them from their families it's completely i i'm speechless
like how utterly fucked up it is and it goes along and we'll talk about this a little bit
in tomorrow's episode but you know there's these don't say gay bills that started in Florida and are kind of spreading across the country that are essentially made to just completely erase the existence of gay people,
whether that's like the students at the school or their parents. The bill.
Yeah. What does that mean? Like, how does it work? Don't say gay. I don't think so.
Broadly. Right. The language in the bill said, you know,
like teachers would quote,
quote,
may not encourage classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender
identity in primary grade levels or in a manner that is not age appropriate
or developmentally developmentally appropriate for students.
And it's broad in order to also make it so that parents can sue the school
district for damages and attorneys fees.
And the reason they want to do this is, quote, to reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding upbringing and control of their children.
Right. against a backdrop already where uh lgbtq youth are already you know facing just disproportionate
levels of suicide and suicidal ideation to then say this is the thing what we want to do is now
bring it to the parents attention that this child is you know uh you know gay or lesbian whatever it
is they just be like well that, we got to let them know.
And also don't talk about it.
The other thing was there was a provision in the bill
that was going to prevent school officials
from telling parents if they felt
that it would bring any kind of harm
or safety danger to the child.
Then in like an update, they were like,
no, actually we're going to change it
so that the school must inform the
children or must inform the parents about the child in an environment that they said is supportive
and judgment free okay good luck with something like that um you know and then they did another
thing they said ah just kidding we're not gonna do that that they have to force forcibly out
children uh we're not gonna do that but again that they have to force forcibly out children.
We're not going to do that.
But again, that's that's like the ebb and flow of these kinds of really terrible, fucked up bills we've seen is you go with the most fucked up version first,
then take one piece out.
So it looks like, ah, look, now you this this total, you know,
hateful bill is just slightly more palatable because now we're not going to force
parents or force school officials to out kids to their parents and then by making it broad you
make it so that teachers face like legal repercussions for even like being open so
the alternative is to be like oppressive with any discussion yeah put people in the closet
don't talk about it and again erode any you know if discussion yeah put people in the closet don't
talk about it and again erode any you know if gay people don't exist then they don't have real
problems that need to be discussed and don't need empathy or understanding right um and just like
with this like bill like aimed at trans kids and and their parents it's just part of a decades-long campaign to dehumanize people and go back to this like
really regressive fucking like idea that things are making kids gay right and that's well you
know that's what it all boils down to um so it you know there's already so i'm who knows what's
gonna happen after this if you know abbott's
like actually no we're going to do this slightly less fucked up version where you know only in a
very narrow way are we going to make people snitches on each other in their community kind
of like orwell anyway i don't know what do i know yeah the i mean there are two trends, right? There's the, uh, this seems to be like going after kids in the context of LGBTQ,
I,
a rights puts people.
I think,
I think it must test well because it puts like conservative people in a
thing like you stay away from my kids.
Right.
Um,
but then,
yeah.
And also the,
the deputizing of people in,
in Texas is very right.
Or well in and strange,
but also seems to be like after that was a,
I think abject failure on the,
well,
no,
I guess it wasn't an abject failure on the abortion,
uh,
Dan,
right.
Because they did see a huge,
like statistically very significant drop in people
seeking abortions in texas so yeah i guess this is their new way of doing it's like i don't know
it's up to you guys but we got your back we only got one side's back there was like this i feel
this writer in slate like recently was talking about like maybe we need to be making more concessions to the right like and that's the answer what are you talking about no the fuck are you to to put more people
in harm's way that's not a concession like a concession isn't something that is gonna just
absolutely uh drastically negatively affect someone's life or their ability to live safely but yeah go off uh
opinion piece writer and the new york city's mta is testing doors on subway stations is that right
yes like to actually have like safety doors like so you don't just have the track right there oh
okay yeah like in asia you have that in a lot of or in a lot of other places
that have like mass transit you have like you actually have doors that would like prevent you
from getting near the track until the train is actually there some are like sort of gates that
are waist high that have like you know doors that open and close alongside the actual subway doors and then some
are like fully walled off so like it's impossible to access the track um unless you know you somehow
sneak in between the subway car and the doors and the train takes off um but i mean when you look at
the like the murders that have happened and people being shoved onto the train tracks and things like
that yeah a lot of people look like yeah isn't that just like the bare minimum of
technology you need but i get that like in a place like new york and most american cities
you're probably there's aren't there other things that would kind of immediately help people like
granted this is a this is something that should should be there.
But what does that mean in terms of, like, support for people in actual need?
Right.
And I guess that's probably a win for the, you know, the city because they can act like, well, we're trying to do something to keep people safe.
It's just not the thing that's going to lift people out of poverty.
In fact, the company that's developing these doors,
they got a sweet deal. Yeah. It's a, it's a good reminder of, you know, we talk and think a lot
about the influence that, um, politicians have over the media and like corporations have over
politicians, but it's also like, you can just see the people in political office reading
news stories and coming up with this idea.
Like just like re looking at the front page of the,
you know,
New York post or whatever,
and just seeing like sensational story.
And yeah,
I mean,
obviously I'm for safety around trains,
but it seems like it's just what, what the media covers is what gets funded. Right. It's not, obviously, I'm for safety around trains, but it seems like it's just what the media covers is what gets funded.
Right. It's not people are fleeing cities because rent is absolutely ridiculous.
And for people who don't exist, I don't know how I've rents this high, but wages at a certain level and expect some anything to function.
but wages at a certain level and expect some,
anything to function.
But yeah,
I mean,
it is a little bit, it's,
it's so funny to me.
Cause like when I'm in Japan,
I'm always like,
if I'm at a train station that doesn't have it,
I'm like,
they are fucking behind what's going on here.
Like y'all,
we've talked about this.
Um,
and that's because a lot of people were,
you know,
taking their lives like at train stations.
And I think there were many reasons why they had to sort of accelerate the process of doing that. But you look at, you know, taking their lives like at train stations. And I think there were many reasons why they had to sort of accelerate the process of doing that.
But you look at, you know, something like New York where it's such a huge reliance on that kind of subway system.
Yet, look, we have we've all seen the memes about the MTA.
But yeah, Queen Elizabeth dead was has been trending.
A lot of people searching for that um the answer no okay this recording yeah uh but i think a lot of people took her covid diagnosis and then like
the fact that she had you know the first like the the the word out of the palace was that you know
she's she's fine she has mild flu symptoms and she will continue to work i don't know what that means does she clock in and she does like data entry or something
uh she can do the data entry from her bed she's totally built for it and then she likes then she
canceled a couple functions and then people like oh no oh no and then of course the internet does
what it does and i think it was like hollywood unlocked or some like
fucking blog posted some shit asking the question and then that just went
all right let's take a quick break uh we'll come back and let you know whether queen elizabeth is
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Still not dead.
Still alive.
Still alive.
Still alive.
Hanging in there.
Thanks, Beth.
Teflon Don trending.
Yeah.
Because it does seem like
all those financial crimes that i think a lot of the neolib
people had their heart set on being the ultimate downfall of donald trump might not uh might not
ultimately hold water yeah it's uh it's kind of i think deflating for me were like okay maybe they'll they got they had they got
alan weisselberg the cfo maybe they're playing hardball with him there's a lot of like talk
about what's happening a lot of people are just kind of like what the fuck happened like is did
he get to the da or something like that and a lot of people point out like there were a few different things happening with this uh case um and one was that like the uh some of the some of the
prosecutors were not playing like hardball as much as they could have with like alan weisselberg
and thinking like oh this guy he's like he's not gonna turn he's not
gonna flip so like they were kind of they didn't charge his sons which a lot of people were like
that could be on the table and that could be you know and early on when they said oh they're also
looking at charges for alan weisselberg's kids a lot of people thought oh well then maybe he'll
he doesn't want to see that he'll flip that didn't actually happen uh and then now the new da comes
in and it's just sort of like uh not sure what to do with this case at this point a lot of momentum
has been lost and some things have didn't go right along the way so i don't know are there other
cases like this was there were massive yeah this is like the civil case there's still dude he's
still got the one in georgia for the vote uh for you this is like the civil case there's still dude he's still got the
one in georgia for the vote uh for you know leaning on the election officials there there's
there's there's many cases right but this is the main one on like all his yeah because a lot of
this was like you know dealing with a lot of like the dubious financial practices of the trump they were never gonna make a stick because that is what all
the rich people in new york and around america get away with so that's that's never gonna be the
thing that they use to put them away um yeah it's fortunately not not that many rich people are uh
guilty of trying to overturn a presidential election
after the fact i think the other thing that a lot of people point to is potentially you know
i don't know it could be bad news is like all the uh confidential like restricted top secret
documents he was just like hanging on to at mar-a-lago um like a lot of people like that's
there's a pretty direct line to you can't
have that shit outside of like a authorized facility uh and because like that poses threats
to national security so maybe but again like we said with all these cases that pop up we'll believe
it when we see it because you know legal system has a real works in mysterious ways in that it will protect white men.
So, yeah, Tom Hardy is trending because a new book has come out about the making of Mad Max Fury Road.
And apparently the disagreements, the iciness that was reported on set between Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron was no joke.
It was, they, they did not like each other. One of the days that stuck out to everybody was
a day in which call was set at eight o'clock. Charlize got there right at eight o'clock,
sat in the war rig, knowing that, which is just a cool statementclock sat in the war rig knowing that which is just a cool statement
sat in the war rig uh knowing that tom was never going to be there at eight apparently he did not
show up uh in the morning which apparently i like you hear that about like jack nicholson too like
it didn't matter what time you set for uh the person to show up like he just wasn't like the the entire filming of like movies
had to just be like changed altered because they were like ah no i don't like to wake up sorry um
anyways when he finally showed up three hours late she jumps out of the war rig starts swearing
her head off at him um and yeah screaming at him how disrespectful then he ran up to her and said
what'd you say to me um and it got to a place where it was kind of out of hand there was a
sense that maybe uh sending a woman producer down could maybe equalize some of it uh charlize
theron said um and yeah it sounds like a real, real nightmare.
Tom Hardy admits in hindsight, I was in over my head in many ways.
The pressure on both of us was overwhelming at times.
What she needed was a better, perhaps more experienced partner in me.
I'd like to think that now that I'm older and uglier, I could rise to that occasion.
Oh, we love that little attempt at self-deprecation there, Tom.
But also it's a weird thing because it makes it seem like I was too pretty to be like considerate
of, I don't know.
Anyway, hold on.
So he's born in 77.
Mad Max Fury Road was made in 2015.
It's 38. Sir, what are you talking about 38 and he can't get up before fucking the fuck are you talking about tom hardy i mean you know
it was uh i was i was a kid i know you're my birthday twin and all but family get your shit together
that that pisses me off though too like people have no fucking respect for everybody's time
that's like the most selfish fucking shit you can do especially in a production the fucking amount
of like work that the crew has to do just for you to fucking drag the day three hours behind schedule uh you fucking idiot you scumbag i love that defense
maybe if i was a little bit older and now i'm a little uglier you know what i'm saying i'll learn
my lesson but not very ugly still a very handsome person still love my lips check out my check out
these look at them all right hardy i like to hide from you, but it was so I could do the big reveal. Wow. Look at this.
Look at the kisser.
Anyways, that movie turned out great.
There's a lot of movies like that where everybody hated each other and the movie turned out
great.
Yeah.
Nobody knows.
Nobody knows.
Look, the audience doesn't know you guys fucking hated each other.
Come on now.
I just went back and watched Babe.
That movie fucking rules.
Babe the Pig? Yeah. pig la la la same same
filmmaker uh what's his name george miller he made like all the mad max movies uh happy feet
babe this is just a just a guy guy makes good movies the guy just figured it out March TV a bunch of big shows come in who lose the dropout about the
Elizabeth Holmes Theranos debacle Peacock's Joe versus Carol which delves back into the Tiger
King mania I have no interest in that I do I have like managed to miss a lot of the Elizabeth Holmes
content I feel like this is going to be the one that i'm uh
that i'm gonna finally dig in is it dramatic the hulu one yeah it's dramatic it's also written by
uh the creator of new girl um so it's like gonna be i think have funny moments too um netflix's
big mouth and prime videos the boys serve up animated spin i'm sorry i
didn't really uh know about those before reading that sentence but the big one that uh the big one
that i'm this guy reads anything on the prompter yeah the big one i'm excited about is the uh
winning time which i kept calling the showtime series but they did not call it
that even though that's what the
Lakers 80s
run was known as Showtime Lakers
unfortunately
it's on HBO
and therefore not
not a fit for that title
but this is
HBO Max series
that a lot of people
at least in LA and a lot of basketball fans
have been pretty excited about it's produced by Adam
McKay it's based on a book
that was apparently really good Showtime
the book is called Showtime
Magic Kareem Riley and the Los Angeles
Lakers dynasty of the 1980s
John C.
Riley is Dr. Buss
say less yeah I want to see i i'm really curious to see it
and full disclosure you know uh sophie alexandra uh her husband is behind that show yeah so i've
always been like tell me things and she's like i don't know anything i just know they are shooting
at the forum and i'm like good okay that's good because they did play at the forum like to know
that but they
have to like shoot it differently because it's not a basketball it's like not a sports venue anymore
they truly nailed the Magic Johnson casting like yeah yeah and uh apparently they nailed the
Kareem casting I don't think anybody could play Kareem in a movie other than Kareem I think they
should have just cast Kareem Abdul-Jabbar yeah and I would have been like 65 year than Kareem. I think they should have just cast Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Yeah, and I would have been like, 65-year-old Kareem.
Looks great.
Yeah.
Looks great.
Yeah, he's doing that yoga, smoking that weed.
Yeah, exactly.
There's also this one that kind of bumped me when I saw it
because it's a NBC show, like a network miniseries,
but it seems like a prestige show.
It's called The thing about pam starring
renee zellweger when i saw it i was like wait how is this on on network tv um but apparently
it's based on an mbc podcast uh or a dateline mbc podcast and a dateline mbc show so they were like
why don't we try our hand at this prestige television thing um so we'll see
it's gonna be it's gonna be on full-on network nbc yeah oh wow good for them i'm sure it'll also
be on pete uh peacock but yeah that makes uh yeah i i saw like a teaser for it and i was like, this looks like a show from not NBC at all.
So, cool.
I know Peacock,
they're an NBC, they're looking for a hit.
There was a report that the Peacock subscriber numbers weren't as high as they should be.
So, looking for a hit.
Get you a hit.
Jared Leto and Anne Hathaway team up as WeWork
founder Adam Newman and his wife
for Apple TV Plus's poorly named We Crashed.
Okay.
Come up with a better name, workshop that a little bit better.
But I'm interested in that story as well.
And then can't not mention Moon Knight from the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
That is Oscar Isaac playing a character named Moon Knight.
I cannot not mention it because super producer Joelle Monique would be pissed if I did not.
There you go.
But also, she really has high expectations for it.
And she is not wrong about much.
Yeah.
Oh, that was, I know, like, one of the actors, like, died tragically in a skiing accident, like, last month.
Oh, damn was, I know like one of the actors like died tragically in a skiing accident like last month. Oh, damn.
Yeah.
But that's how, sadly, that's how it, I'm not, I'm, yeah, people know I'm notoriously ignorant about the MCU, but I saw that.
But big on skiing accidents.
You stay, you keep up to date on those.
Gotcha.
It's gotta wear a helmet, folks.
The trailer for this show, I was like, wait, why is this not a movie?
So that's a, that's a good sign, I would say, wait, why is this not a movie? So that's a that's a good sign.
I would say, like, why are you using Oscar Isaac?
Use Jack's patented movie critiquing scale.
Why is this not a movie?
This was rated.
Why isn't this a movie by Jack O'Brien?
So it's going to be good.
I also say that about the masked singer and the voice every time I watch it.
So you should know that when Rudy Giulianiuliani was revealed i was like why one question this a movie
oh yeah and john walked off all right those are some of the things that are trending yeah oh i'm
sorry i missed so sometimes i don't pay attention to the chat as we're doing the recording,
but Super Producer Ana Hosnier said that apparently Tom Hardy spit in Armie Hammer's face during auditions,
which, okay, another good, another cool thing for Tom Hardy.
And then Super Producer Brian was just listing movie names.
He said Aliens, Witches of Eastwick.
Aliens, I think, was a movie where people hated each other.
Ah, yeah.
Ripley hated that alien.
That's for damn sure.
And then Witches of Eastwick.
The way they called her a bitch?
It's like, whoa.
Easy, bro.
She was not nice to him.
Relax.
Can we get a female producer in here to kind of level things out?
Witches of Eastwick was a Nicholson movie where he wouldn't
show up on time. Had hemorrhoids
the whole time. Openly talked about them.
Also a George Miller movie.
There it is. There you go.
Alright. Those are
the things that are trending. We're back tomorrow with the whole
last episode of the show. Until then, be kind
to each other. Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing
about white supremacy and we will talk to y' to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.
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I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
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