The Daily Zeitgeist - The Greatest ShowTrend 4/26: Wicked, Kamala Harris, Harvard, Bad Bunny, Lesbian Visibility Day, NBA

Episode Date: April 26, 2022

In this edition of The Greatest ShowTrend, Jack and Miles discuss the film version of 'Wicked', Kamala Harris testing positive for COVID, Harvard 'atoning' for their role in slavery, Bad Bunny playing 'El Muerto' in new Sony/Marvel film, Lesbian Visibility Day, and NBA news.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of The Greatest Show Trend. My name is Jack. That over there, well, that's Miles. And yeah, we were just talking Greatest Showman because we were trying to figure out. So one of the first trending stories is the film version of Wicked is coming and it's coming in two doses 2024 and 2025 that's going to be

directed by the director of Crazy Rich Asians and people are confused as to why they have split it into two parts it's a fucking one year intermission jackass act like you've been to the theater damn giving you an hour to process that shit we're also like i was curious because it seems like

whatever hollywood logic that got excited about like taking broadway musicals into movie theaters like they they've been getting a lot of headwinds with like i guess west side story is now officially considered a flop there was also a pandemic on but it definitely was not doing well while spider-man into the no way home verse uh was doing great um in the heights i think people were disappointed in cats people love masterpiece but uh yeah did not do great here evan hansen similar so we're just you know before we started recording we were trying to figure out what were like the hits that are giving them like the um dollar signs in their eyeballs and i think we landed on uh mama mia and the greatest showman which i think is the one that

probably is the example you say people go man that movie fucking flopped and you're like check the fucking receipt because it's you're gonna be like huh what uh the greatest showman did how how many millions of dollars like 440 million globally and it like i think people think it flopped because when it first came out it just like did okay and then but then it like kept had that james cameron style release where it just like kept getting bigger and bigger and was you know three four months later still in movie theaters when most movies are like well 10 million dollars that was a failure and they're gone yeah they were like sing-alongs that's when i knew i was like oh i'm i know not of the fucking the fans of this shit because when i started seeing

things about like them selling out sing-along like re-premieres of the of the film you're like okay so now you have people who are willing to to cry for this in the theater um but yeah and mama mia obviously because that's i mean i that that was a huge um but i think moulin rouge also like for i remember when i was in high school that sort of began this thing of like hey musicals man they're cool because they're using some like modern pop songs but i feel like that then we got like chicago which probably gave the studios like you might be able to win an oscar right yeah something like that by the way i am uh reporting from a logging camp in case you can hear the yeah chainsaws in the background you're miles i'm here at a logging camp in the

middle of the Redwood Forest. I'm actually here to report on just like cheer them on. Yes, Jack. The tags are still on your Carhartt vest and pants. Just take them off so you blend in a little bit more. Yeah. Just thought it would add

a nice bit of texture. So I made sure that the chainsaws were revving. Hey, speaking of But I just thought it would add a nice bit of texture. So I made sure. Absolutely. The chainsaws were revving. Hey, speaking of revving, Vice President Kamala Harris has tested positive for COVID. That has nothing to do with revving. They're revving it. Yeah. So far, no symptoms.

She is isolating following CDC guidelines. It's wild to hear. This morning, I remember on the i think i was watching like andrea mitchell reports or something and the talk was just sort of like oh it's you know it's terrible the vice president is like coming down with an illness and like all the other journalists like yeah you know things have been pretty lax recently at the white house like you don't really need masks and stuff they're like testing after the fact um so yeah not not too much of a surprise and then like then they started doing this thing it's like yeah it's like we're really learning now how to live with the virus because of the things i'm like don't do this shit right now yeah it's just fun

now it's fun when somebody tests positive oh and it's and yes especially with like the access to things because when when donald trump got it that was the original variant obviously and and now where we are with the treatments and things like that it's like you're first of all y'all are talking from your perspective as journalists on a massive cable news outlet where you regularly interact with people like the fucking president and so you know to then say yeah it's like we're all learning to live with it. Harvard is trending. Actually, it's just a school in Boston is trending. And then you can read between the lines and discover that they're

talking about Harvard. Their president created an investigation to look at whether Harvard had benefited from slavery and perpetrated racial inequality. I would have been happy to take that money and just told them, yep, yeah, you sure did.

Hey, you want me to help you do some research? Oh, man, it was real bad. You know what? You should feel so bad, actually take this $100 million and give it to somebody. Yeah. So Harvard University is vowing to spend 100 million dollars to research and atone for its extensive ties with slavery the school's president announced tuesday with plans to identify and support the descendants of enslaved people who labored at the ivy league campus so that sounds good so far that that's in the first paragraph

of the ap report uh the report says the university should make a significant monetary commitment and it should invest in remedies of equal or greater breadth than other universities hell yeah we are with you but getting shaky there

remedies but the report stopped short of recommending direct financial reparations and officials have no immediate plans for that kind of support. So that's like me being like a chronic cheater. And then I'm telling my partner, I say, you know what?

I'm sorry, man, I need to spend about 10 grand to research in a tone for this. I'm going to go to hedonism inbean right and just do some soul searching down there um and really figure this out for me like what this is purely to have a headline that says hundred million dollars to look inward yeah well i'm trying to figure out what that first part to like directly atone for uh like what what do they think that is are they going to do that via just apologies like i don't know a hundred million dollars to research and atone for

it's extensive ties that's a lot of therapy for these people to get over their connection to the slavery i don't know what the fuck this is supposed to do it sounds all like nonsense and in a way i'm i'm i'm surprised i expected more yeah because it's a very well-worded intelligent disingenuous proclamation of doing something about a problem without actually doing anything about it in fact it almost it's as if many of our top leaders are educated in this place or this style of thinking and are now taking that to the halls of Congress and the C-suites and companies where we just continue to do this. You spend a lot of money saying something without really saying it. Oh, huh? But, wait, but we're atoning. We're atoning.

You know what I mean? Atoning. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church,

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to be released on january 12th 2024 bad bunny's acting career is like blowing up man bad bunnies in general and out here what can this what was this man not doing uh but i think this is uh super producer becca saying the first and i think even just yeah anecdotally just observing the movie posters of the past marvel films this would be the first uh like yeah having a like a leading man be a latino actor uh for a for a film yeah for the titular role for the film yeah yeah i guess bad bunny's also been like fucking with like wwe like showing up in wwe raw and stuff so it kind of makes sense because el morito is a wrestler yeah i'm. I'm sure this will be good. I'm curious to know who's directing it.

That'll be the next piece of the puzzle to come into place. Oh, okay. Is this for the people? Hashtag Lesbian Visibility Day is trending. Lesbian Visibility Day is recognized on April 26th. Yeah. Celebrating those identifying as lesbian and highlighting

the issues they face shout out the lesbians out there you know he sees you and there's a there's a man like any fucking day that's like celebrating you know someone who's not cis het people there's like these like counter posts where people are like this is the dark side about coming out as a lesbian you're like what the fuck the standard and totco.uk please leave the standard came out like they came with like i wish i hadn't come out as a lesbian well i mean they were saying they were trying to sort of and again i'm not trying to say that this isn't real but they were really heavily leaning into like a lot of lesbians were reluctant to come out for being seen as anti-trans. And that the like vote like it sort of sort of painting it as like trans people were making it difficult for lesbians to come out.

But it felt like the thrust of the article was just to be as divisive as possible. Like, you know, all of those things are. It's like, here's a shred of something we heard. Now turn that to say these people are making it hard for these other people to be themselves right right divide yeah all right and then uh nba playoffs i don't know everything feels very toxic right now uh with like the the number one trending things are ben simmons kairi irving have you do you feel like this is it just is it just me because i was pulling for the nets and because i'm pulling

for the sixers and they're now threatening to be the first team to ever lose the series after leading 3-0 like does it feel more toxic this year i mean you're talking to a laker um yeah sure i don't know i might not i don't know if it's more toxic or that i'm more sensitive to the humanity of athletes right i think the last couple years has really done a lot for that whether it's like the u.s gymnasts or naomi osaka or ben simmons like and also just me with my like dealing with my own mental health and being like honest enough with myself about it like how to you know address like patterns of thinking etc that I don't know like part of me I yeah I don't know I'm like I've half the time always asking you I'm like man I feel like Ben Simmons just really needs some time

away from not hearing you know like whatever the narrative is around him to like focus on what, you know, the thing that he lost, the joy of playing basketball, rather than a lot of the remedies we hear like on TV and stuff, which is like, he's soft. Just get out of here. And you're like, and I get the argument. Sure. Like for how hard people's lives are,

you're being paid millions of dollars to be an athlete. What the fuck? But underneath all of that is still a person who's trying to do something they like and if they're unable to. Then I'm really curious in what is going on there more than saying, oh, he's trash, he's a fucking fraud. It's like a highly visible person struggling with a mental health issue and being, you know, just called soft or I, I think there's multiple mental health issues,

uh, in the NBA playoffs that where this is being, where this is happening and people are just being ruthless, which is, you know, and it's wild though too, right? Like last week,

Shaq talked very publicly about his own struggles with depression when he played for the Lakers and how he could not even vocalize that he was you know distressed by it and you see that he's the same guy now on TNT calling you know saying that Ben Simmons now is a sucker move right yeah you you had you had the aware with all to understand that in the time you were playing it felt very awkward to be honest that you were struggling with something right yet but you haven't quite evolved then to be like hey man i've been through this shit this isn't fun like i'm really i hope i hope everything works out but you suddenly forgot that you were vulnerable in that moment and decided to just point the finger and i'm not even trying

to really be like man leave him alone but on some level we have to begin to look at things with a little more nuance than merely like rich guy rich guy is human fuck that right right and it does just feel like people are more excited to talk about a team when they perform badly than they are when they perform well oh that's but that's i think that's every sport right like because we all i think as sports fans there's always like a little bit of resentment building up for another player or team and when suddenly it's time to like being able to like a quote-unquote objectively say this thing's a mess huh like right it sort of it gives you that license to, to really feed all that shit.

Um, and it happens like in every league, whether it's people clowning on the nets for being a super team that's getting swept or like, you know, uh, like in like England right now, everyone's like laughing at Manchester United because they're like, Oh, how far they've fallen. But that's because there's so many years of success that people are like, it's time for y'all to get fucking torn apart. And that's we're waiting for yeah i don't know i guess and in the early rounds the thing that's notable is somebody losing the first round as opposed to like last year i'm sure there was a lot of that with yeah i mean there was like people wanted to talk about ben

simmons disappearing against the hawks But then eventually the story became like, damn, Giannis really did it. So hopefully as the playoffs go along, the discourse gets a little bit more, you know, just excited about people being really good at basketball. Yeah. You know, if you're looking for that, you can go to a podcast called Miles and Jack. I'm Matt Bustis.

The Sixers, I don't know. I don't watch the losses. So I get to just have sweet memories of mb's game winner from game three dancing in my head long may that last that memory it might last me the whole off season because they might not win another game because they have lost two in a row after leading 3-0 but you know i'm i be fine. What you're describing sounds like a light pitch for, like, Severance. That's what I am. I'm a Severance Sixers fan.

I just only watch the wins. You're like, what is he doing there? He goes in that room and, like, plugs in, but he's only, like, replaying this one Joel Embiid bugger over and over again. And he comes out. Yeah, I just started watching Severance, by the way, last night. That shit is so good. Yeah. over again and he comes out yeah i just started watching severance by the way last night that shit is so good yeah but in a way like whether it's the toy like trying to disconnect yourself from the toil or the pain of like your life like i man i there are a few there are a few games

matches moments i could i could take out of my mind but anyway um all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this t afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking

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Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.