The Daily Zeitgeist - The Incredible Shrinking Blue Wave, Putin “Scores” 5 “Goals” 5.11.13

Episode Date: May 11, 2018

In episode 146, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Sara June to discuss the upcoming hurricane season, the disappointing blue wave in midterm elections, the Watergate hangover for the left, NPR's weird conservative bias on certain stories, Putin's hockey game, bloidwatch, & more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 30, Episode 5 of... The Daily Zeitgeist! For May 11, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 30, Episode 5 of Don't Dane These Ice Geists! For May 11th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jacket Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Despite all my gray, I am still just a rat in a cage.

Okay, thank you so much, Mike Mann, and shocking, I just shocked the shit out of Sue Perdue and a hosnate to my left. That was a nice AK, Smashing Pumpkins. As I've said before, if you look on Twitter, the Smashing Pumpkins do follow me. Because I tweeted at them that my dream woman is a mixture of Darcy and James E. Hunt. So, yes, shout out to all the Pumpkins fans over there. Except for Billy Corgan because now he's like Weird all right Is he? I don't know why

I'm surprised Yeah Yeah Bald white guy Like Lex Luthor He's like real into Wrestling or something Like all sorts of weird

A lot of angst A lot of air Yeah We are thrilled to be joined By the person whose voice You just heard She's a hilarious comedian And podcast host

And just one of the greats Thank you Is Sarah June Thank you so much What is up? This voice you just heard, she's a hilarious comedian and podcast host. And just one of the greats is Sarah June. Thank you so much. What is up? A.K.A. Sarah Diesel. A.K.A. Lil 2-Day. I made my first A.K.A.'s for this episode. Don't forget to do it. These are really good.

Thank you. I'm doing great. I'm so glad to be back. It's so good to have you. It's been a while. I'm really upset that I was supposed to be on the 420 episode. I know. Because I thought we were going to get high as fuck in the studio.

I thought we were going to hotbox the room. I know. And then the bus I was on broke down in Los Banos. Love to break down on the 152. In, as we call it, the bathrooms. The bathrooms. The baths. Yes.

We broke down on the side of the highway, and then the bus driver was like, you know what? I'm going to try and keep this going. And then he took us to a Walmart, and then everyone was like, we're what? I'm going to try and keep this going and then he took us to a Walmart and then everyone was like, we're fine. We're good. We're good. I met some very nice bros

on their way to Coachella. Oh, shit. Some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life. It was truly an experience. Did one of them just suddenly catch fire inexplicably? Oh, shit, dude.

I'm on fire. He was that guy that was like, he was really excited about knowing like the full chemical names of LSD and DMT and he was like

have you ever done like Surgicus or whatever I was like fuck you get out of here he had pants with like 10 zippers

on them no zippers went anywhere they didn't even function they didn't even function he's like

I actually open them all up when it gets hot you ever fuck with Romdogs? Fuck them on fire again. Yeah. For some reason.

Sarah, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Woo, something from my search history, because I put some notes in here. Okay, here we go. Okay, so my recent search history is pretty depressing. It's cops destroyed community garden, because our uh on on my podcast left coast we mentioned you know cops will sometimes destroy community gardens and i was like let me make sure this is true and oh boy is it true there are so many instances of SWAT teams and cops just coming in and destroying community gardens where either like the the land got bought out and the

lease was up or if it's a survival garden they'll just destroy it for like um code reasons wow yeah so like in wait wait a SWAT team to destroy a garden yes not incidentally they are coming with the express purpose of destroying this garden yes because it's not properly hey get your code it's your tactical backhoe right your tactical shovel. What the fuck, man? Let's get some fucking Roundup. Yeah, we'll have to pull these weeds. The guy with two spray bottles of Roundup and he's flipping them on his hands.

Before the Blue Lives Matter people start asking us to give cops a chance or respect them. Just Google cops destroy community garden. Stop being overt villains. Let people know about the benefits of community gardens because I think if you know about the benefits of community gardens. Because I think if you live in urban areas, community gardens are probably more familiar to people.

Well, one of the biggest ones here was there was a huge community garden in south central L.A. called South Central Farms. And the owners let the lease on the land run out. And then it was bought by this just terrible development company. And the community tried to buy it. Like lots of different people offered to donate even um the annenberg foundation was like we will buy this land from you this guy named horowitz and uh and horowitz was like no you made the offer two days later than my deadline so i won't let you buy the land wow yeah and then they fucking bulldozed south central farms which was a huge plot of land and fed a lot of people. And they had like a lot of community events there.

And then it just was empty for 12 years. Man. It's still empty. Still empty. It's still empty. A couple of years ago, the new owners like put a plan up to the city where they were like, we want to put garment manufacturing there. And like, I don't know if that went through.

That's the last I heard about it. I'm sure they will. But like straight up, they were like, no, sorry. Like we bought this land. It's gone. It's dead. Sorry, calling the SWAT team. Sorry, it's really important that we destroy this garden in order to put, I don't know,

probably condos here. And then they just didn't even fucking put condos there. So a community garden is owned by the community. It's a plot of land. And then they garden it. Yeah. It's basically like if you live in an apartment and you don't have a yard, community gardens are a place where you can get a garden bed, a plot of land, and you can grow food.

You can grow flowers. Like it's great. It's a fucking huge educational resource for kids. A lot of the time, like elderly, whatever, nursing homes and stuff will have them because elderly people like fucking love to garden. And they're tight. They're really, they're great for native plants. They're great for like growing.

Is that how you know when you're old when you want to start gardening? Yeah, and I'm old now. Oh, yeah, already? Yeah. Because I'm slowly getting there. My mom, like she got into gardening like in one day. It like happened. Yeah.

Like it made me think like there was that age. She's like, whoa. Yeah. Was it the day after you moved out? No. I was like maybe, wait, oh shit. Yeah. Think about it.

She's like, these succulents are my children now, along with the possums and rats. I built a garden bed, and now I'm like, I don't need a man. I built a garden bed and logged off Tinder. Yeah. I just need to get my vine ripened tomatoes. Yeah, do you want to see some pictures of my tomatoes? Oh yeah, later on, later on. Later on.

In private. I'm trying to keep my job. Yeah, I'm trying to keep my job. What is something that is overrated okay uh i got a couple of netflix recommendations for you guys one is here's what's fucking overrated on netflix blue planet and i know what you're thinking sarah you love the oceans how can you hate this series blue planet everyone knows this about me that i love the oceans everyone is thinking this uh i watched an episode of blue planet and

all it did was introduce me to various species of baby animals and then show a giant predator eating those baby animals oh really and that was the end yeah that's it and then it's just like yeah nature's tough yeah it's hard out here yeah on that show life and on on every other nature show you know you'll see something bad happen you'll see an antelope get eaten or whatever and then they're like but life then they show you some right you end with the shot of some grass growing you know to be like this is life and or you show a happy family some ducks flying for the first time you know you end on a high note but this episode of blue Planet was just like here's a baby walrus here it is getting eaten

here's a baby seal here it is getting eaten here's some fish here it is getting eaten like really cute baby seals baby seal files and like the last shot

is just like a shark like shitting out a dead seal it was an orca whale and like a blood splotch in the water and it's like and then the credits just roll

executive producer yeah I remember the first and that was high as shit you get high as shit to watch nature shows you don't get you don't want to get

because especially I'm sure you start I feel like oh look at the little baby and you're like yay and you're like

what the fuck why is that whale getting all close like no even when they do like show the circle of life it's not that satisfying

because like I think it was the first blue planet. They have this family of whales and there's a baby whale and it gets picked off by these sharks or something and eventually eaten. And then they're like, but the way that nature works, it sinks to the bottom and becomes food for this giant ecosystem You see a million types of crabs eating it Yeah, but it's all like disgusting animals. It's all like sea worms It's the maggots of the sea world Yeah, it's like, oh, by the way, there are

six foot long maggots at the bottom of the ocean that just devour this baby. Don't worry, this dead baby is going to keep these worms alive It's like, yes, perfect. Thank God. Great. Alright. Like, as the young sea worm breaches the seal's skull from the inside.

And you're like, we realized that the sea the baby whale was still alive. Yeah. It's like, oh God, what the fuck is this? What is something that's underrated? Underrated. Alright, so you're not watching Blue Planet anymore. We're saying no to Blue Planet. Here's what you need to watch on Netflix.

And I'm about to blow up this spot for you guys. I'm about to blow it open wide. Age Gap Love. Yep. The best show on Netflix. Are you into this? Yes. It is the fucking best.

I am a professional get high and watch Netflix person. And I already know the nature things already have. I know that's a risk. Yes, there's a risk there. When I'm like, old divorcees with young people, oh, I'm in. Age Gap Love is a show about couples with huge age gaps. We're not talking like a 10 year. We're talking sometimes 60.

Yeah, 60. Yeah, on average, it's a 30 to 45 year age gap in these couples. Some of the couples are amazing. The couples are the fucking best because there's like, there's kind 30 to 45 year age gap. Yeah. In these couples. Some of the couples are amazing. The couples are the fucking best because there's like, there's kind of two, and they're British, so they're all fucking crazy looking. Yeah. There's two major types. One is like an older woman with a younger man and the younger man has some kind of health

problem. Yeah, exactly. That like forces him to be with an older woman who like can kind of be there all the time. And take care of them. Conversely, they're like, I always thought they would take care of me but i'm taking care of him yes it's diabetic now from drinking too much and it's like oh shit yeah she's like i'm glad i have this boy toy or whatever and then the other the other main type is an old man who got with his son's girlfriend and then they got married yeah like that's the. Yeah. Where it's like they met when she

was 16 in a pub because that's what you do in Britain and he was like an old ass bartender. You go drinking with your dad? No you go drinking with your friends and then you fall in love with the bartender who's your friend's dad. Wow. And you fuck him and then you get married and then you have babies with him because he still wants to have babies and then their families don't talk to them anymore. Yeah.

It's wild. Yeah. Those are the ones where it's like clearly a borderline abusive relationship. A couple of my favorite couples, there's the one of the old woman who was like, when her husband on his deathbed was like, get a titty job and go out and date was basically his dying wish. Joanne is the breakout star of the show. She's clearly angling for her own reality series and she fucking deserves it. She's like a 72-year year old lady and she has the craziest boob job. It's crazy. And she says, I was married to the greatest

man for 40-50 years on his deathbed. He was like, go get those tits and fuck a young guy. Which like, whether or not you believe that is 100% up to you. Get you some. Do we have video evidence of this request? That last moment, no. I take Joanne at her word.

He said it through a muffled pillow. She's like, just die so I can get this fucking insurance money. Yeah, I mean, again, also, you know, she needs a bit of a glow up. I'm not trying to drag Ma, but you know, you're on TV, Ma. We gotta check the mascara a little bit, you know what I mean? Maybe do some

with the hair. We gotta get a little hair. We gotta get her a wig. She needs a really good wig. Gotta get her a wig. She needs a really good wig and she's like... Because then she would be a fly. She's so excited about her huge... Her tits are so crazy and then in like the first episode,

she goes to see a doctor to see if she can get them bigger and the doctor's like, no, man. At your age, you will die. Yeah. Isn't that bad for your back just regularly?

You can see it. Most people get... Some people have to get reductions if they match a big breast. Yeah, she's given herself back pain with this. And then there's, like, she'll always be, like, I can see people looking when I walk down the street. And I'm, like, not in the way we want. It's a spectacle, to say the least. So the old man. And she calls her young lovers toy boys.

Yeah. So the old guy who marries his son's daughter. Son's best friend. Not his own great-grandchild. Or his son's classmate. Or his son's ex-girlfriend. Or whatever. I understand his family cutting him off.

But does her family cut her off too? Because they're just like, I don't want to picture his balls? Generally, her family is like, um, like really like clearly not really okay with it, but also doesn't want to cut their daughter out of their life. They're like, they're just worried about her, you know?

So yeah, there will be a lot of the parents being like, when I first heard about it, I was pretty upset. Yeah. Now it's fine. Wasn't there one woman who I'm still upset. Yeah.

There was like one woman. Wasn't she like dating her son's celly from prison? Oh my God, I haven't seen that one yet. Her son was in prison and then another dude came out. She was writing him letters and now they're together. Yo, that one's messy also. They're all messy. The one that I know you've seen is the old Austrian millionaire who like owns the mall.

And he got the young. Yes. Or no, he's. Is he? Yeah, he's a mall owner. He's an Austrian millionaire. She's German, I think, he's an Austrian she's German I think right

yeah she's German or like Belgian or something or Swedish I think she's Swedish anyway she's the ex playboy bunny or something

and she treats him like shit yeah that's the one that's like the classic old man young woman he's rich she's not

but like in general on age gap love they're all poor you know like overall but that one stood out because it was like oh she's clearly just marrying this old guy for his money whatever and she treats him like shit it's like she almost calls him fuck stick you know i mean she's gonna be like i want champagne he's like okay like can you get up and do this he's so fucking old like i get that maybe like that's your man you're you know you want to be like boo

can you get that yeah this man is so old don't make him get up man, or you want to be like, boo, can you get that? Yeah. This man is so old. Don't make him get up or back and over just to be like, I want more champagne. But he's also shady to her. Yeah. He's like, bleh. He's always coughing in her face. It's just like these two people are like- Unless she is fine, I guess.

Anyway, yeah. Check out A's Gap Love. It's a fucking trip. It is an intense show. If you like to just get messy with reality shows. Oh, my favorite couple, I think. There's one in San Jose. The young men also always have like a curly wax mustache.

You know what I mean? And they generally fall in love because they have some weird shared interest, like LARPing or like organ music or some shit. And they're like, yeah, we met through the organ community. Right. Like that's a normal. Or dialysis. Or they're like, yeah, we're like steampunk pirates.

Right, right. Or we met on a Slayer message board yeah oh no no a deep purple message board yeah that one was scary yeah that one was like he's that's an unhealthy relationship he's super controlling super controlling and he like flew her in from scotland yeah he got to marry him and have his baby like yeah so it's it's dark her relationship to steampunk is so authentic. Because when she grew up, she had to pedal her own washing machine. Exactly. She's like, what do you mean you don't know how to mend the bellows? Yeah, so watch Age Gap Love and just be careful. Laugh, cry.

Laugh, cry. But at least they're humans who are living their best life, unlike tragically seals losing their lives very early on. Some of those couples are truly inspiring and you can tell they really love each other. And it's just really nice. And you know what? It does force you into a bit of introspection about like relationships because when you see sort of like these exaggerated couples, the problems are very pronounced or not pronounced. But then you can kind of be like, oh shit, that's like a small thing that you overlook

in a relationship. And they're all heterosexual couples. And it's interesting to see like a portrayal of heterosexual couples where like you're kind of being invited to gawk at them, but also not. Like the show is they never say like they never make fun of them overtly. No. You know, they never say like. They use like cheeky descriptions, you know. Yeah.

Yeah. And they just use the phrase age gap a lot because that's the only way you can say it without it sounding really bad. He's a chicken hawk. Yeah. Right, right, right. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Something people think is true is that my podcast Left Coast is hosted by two people when in fact it is now hosted by me.

It's a solo mission. Baby Left Coast is I'm flying solo. Okay. And we have our first solo episode out today with Jeff Weiss, former writer for the LA Weekly, on to tell you what happened to the LA Weekly. And a lot of weeklies, I'm sure. A lot of weeklies, yeah. So the LA Weekly got bought out in November by these secret neocon. Right, Sinclair Media.

Yeah, Sinclair Media and Claremont Institute people. And they're still running it, but it's a zombie paper because they fired all the writers. And then they were like, does anyone have any writers? And nope. Everyone was like, no, fuck you. It's a, and it's a really incredible story. Yeah. And it's also part of like, you know, this movement that we've seen across the country of like, like your local weekly getting fucking bought out or bankrupted or whatever.

And you're losing that real independent journalism. Yeah. And what's crazy is like, you know, we keep hearing about the death of print journalism, you know, and I just keep thinking, oh, that means paper is shutting down. But what it means instead, it turns out, is huge national media groups like Sinclair buying out like 10 papers, running super conservative articles in the op-ed section and then just using the former prestige of the paper to bleed advertisers as subscription numbers drop right and they're like okay yeah like you and i look at the death of print media and we're like this sucks but what they look at it as is like cool

print media is dying let me chip the teeth let me chip the gold out of the teeth of this court distressed asset yeah it's a distressed asset They're buying it to tank it, which is even more depressing. Venture capitalists come in, buy it, let it die, and then build it back up. Yeah, and just sell the end. And we lost a lot of local websites too, like LAist and Gothamist and things like that. Yeah, LAist, Gothamist, SFist, that whole thing. And then this just comes on the heels of the death of Gawker and LAist. Right.

And it's all wealthy people having their way, you know, with Gawker. It was that they outed, you know, Gawker was, they could be bitches. The really funny thing about the LA weekly story is that the people that bought it and did this are not even good at it.

Like they didn't buy it. They didn't buy it, fire all the writers and then install a new staff full of pro-Trump writers. They just fired all the writers and then we're like, oh, we don't have any content. Right. And they're not reporting the news even in a slanted way. Right.

They're just not doing it. Like it's like they didn't have a plan. They're so bad at this. Yeah. It's weird. That's a must listen for sure. It is very. Yeah.

So that's out now. And I put up, another myth is that we don't update enough. But in fact, I put out four episodes yesterday. There you go. There you go.

I feel bad about not posting a lot in the past couple months. Well, look, we're out here living our lives. We're living our lives. I'm living my life. And we're trying to give you all this art for free.

Well, not for free. Please subscribe to my Patreon. We're about to have some bonus content. Oh, shit. Bonus. Boner content. We'll shout to have some bonus content. Oh, shit. Bonus. Boner content. We'll shout all that out at the end of the show when we get Sarah, her dough.

Thank you. I mean, sorry. I'm sorry. All right. Let's get into- The good stuff. The good stuff. Yeah.

We're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now. Let me tap in real quick to the shared- Got it? Jack in, bro. Jack in. Like Johnny Mnemonic or some shit. I'm dial-upping.

I'm DSL over here. Just a word of warning. This is going to kind of be our, for anybody who doesn't think Donald Trump is the greatest American president, this is going to be sort of the Empire Strikes Back slash Infinity War episode. Infinity Empire America. Yeah. It's a lot of somewhat bad news or sort of pessimistic outtakes. Just a reality check.

Let's call it a reality check. We try and be somewhat optimistic. Jack's having a breakdown is what we're saying. Jack's reached his end. He's sporting a mohawk. We try and be somewhat optimistic. Jack's having a breakdown, is what we're saying. Jack's reached his end. He's sporting a mohawk. Yeah. I'm smiling. Jack's got a lip ring.

My face is smiling, but I have tears just streaming down my face right now. He's got those trans-metropolitan glasses where one is green and one lens is red. And he's got a cigarette and he's like, the end of the world, I'm drunk. Uh-huh. So let's buckle up for cane season 2018 cane season hurricane season 20k 2k 18 is on its way uh so june 1st no uh june 1st i think is when atlantic hurricane season officially begins uh but you know so i cannot wait for those tickets now as we've all uh known that climate change is bad and i think we've realized that it's contributed to a lot of natural disasters.

If it was real, it might be bad. Yeah, if it was. Sadly, there's a new report that is saying that clearly the climate change and its effect on the water temperature is like one of the single largest factors in exacerbating the frequency and intensity of hurricanes. So now we're saying, okay, after doing an analysis of last hurricane season, here are the numbers. Yes, it made shit worse. Look, here's what you're not getting. Climate change leads to hurricanes, which leads to buildings being destroyed, which leads to a beautiful open market where developers can make more shitty buildings that will then get not, it's called a boom and bust. It's called capitalism. Miles, get on board. This is the life cycle of property. I look, I'm trying to keep up guys. It's this capitalism, Miles. Get on board. This is the life cycle of property. Look, I'm trying to keep up, guys.

It's this capitalism thing. I'm still getting a hold of it. Okay, so just bear with me. I've only been doing it for three weeks. Like with the media, though, this is another example of something that is really good for venture capitalists and people with loads of money to invest in different things. And then profit off of later. But it's really bad for poor people and just people who aren't that wealthy.

Especially when you look at like hurricanes in the Southeast, they disproportionately affect people of color much more intensely than anyone else. But people of color have the same opportunity to buy homes as everyone else, right? Motherfucker, we can't even go into an Airbnb without thinking we're robbing it.

I doubt it. But anyway, so to add to this good news there's also been a few forecasts coming out of a few different universities that say that there might be even above average activity as they're saying uh for this hurricane season with like 18 18 named storms with five being like possibly major five being like major harvey yeah so should everybody just get the fuck out of the southeast now well the sad thing is right you look at every like recovery is still happening in houston and clearly in puerto rico where nothing has been even new orleans yeah for sure and so it's frightening to know that there could be uh something even close to what happened last year in terms of hurricane season so we'll see the the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

They haven't put out their own predictions for the season yet. But based on the other ones, it seems like it could be active. We're seeing record temperatures, right? And last year. Last year. Like high temperatures? Yeah, and the water temperatures. The water temperature is an all-time high.

And it was last year. And last year we saw saw three insanely powerful storms. After Sandy happened and there was a community garden on Coney Island that survived the hurricane and then a year later got full ghost.

I still need to see the idea of a SWAT team wrecking a garden is like peak capitalism. You know what I mean? Not even like, yeah, we hired this Lance Excavation team to do it.

Yeah. It's like, hud, hud, hud, hud, hud, hud, hud. Yeah, like guys with guns came and were like, this plant is more than 12 inches high. Shoot it! Just rolling up in riot gear.

Yeah. Just like pushing the plants over. Oh, Jesus. All right, we're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back with more bad news. All right, we're going to take a quick break and then we'll be back with more bad news.

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You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. So there was a lot of talk about three months ago about a coming blue wave in the elections, in the midterm elections, one of the things people were pointing to was how Democrats had been overperforming in special elections and – And still are. And still are.

What is overperforming? Like the turnout is higher than normal years. Like they're doing okay? Yeah, like special elections historically like turnout is so low because you have to be particularly engaged to show up for a special election. And the turnout has been, you know, significantly higher than normal. Right. Yeah, like Alabama is an example of this where, you know, Trump won by 20 points and then a Democrat won. So they have this thing called a generic ballot where they poll Americans and say just generally, would you vote for a Democrat or a Republican? And as recently as a couple months ago or a few months ago,

Democrats were leading by 16 points. And now when those same polls were released this week, it's down to three points and sort of inside the margin of error. So reasonable question to be asked is, are Democrats fucking this up again? How specifically are they fucking this up again? There was a article in The New York Times that was an interview with a GOP strategist where he was talking. It was just interesting to see inside how they're viewing this and all the gop are mentioning nancy pelosi as like the you know person that they're making their villain like surely that can't still be a good use of resources like who cares she's been here for so long uh aren't't Republicans tired of her at this

point? And he was like, I'll just read the guy's name. His last name is Bliss. He said, Frank, you're very rarely wrong, but this time you are. Nancy Pelosi is the most unpopular, divisive politician in America, period. I'm very blessed to have her in my life and hope she never, ever retires. So there's just like these things that I don't totally take into account, like the just sheer, you know, vein of pulsating hatred for Nancy Pelosi that exists out in America. And I mean, even Democrats hate Nancy Pelosi. Why? Because she sucks? Because she's inconsistent. Like, there are times when people, there's a progressive wing of the party that really wants to go left. And there's always this moderation because she's the establishment.

She said, we're capitalists and that's just the way it is. I mean, she, you know. She's done good, but like, you know. If you are a Democrat, like, if you really identify as a Democrat and not, you know, like any further left than that. I mean, that's very center. That's extremely centrist to be a Democrat, like if you really identify as a Democrat and not, you know, like any further left than that, if you're I mean, that's very center. That's extremely centrist to be a Democrat. And Nancy Pelosi is a Democrat and a centrist. So if you're if you vote Democrat just because it's the only major party that you can vote for, but your interests are really further left than that. Nancy Pelosi is a very disappointing politician because she never goes progressive.

She always goes center. Nancy Pelosi is a very disappointing politician because she never goes progressive. She always goes center. So like – but again, like I mean – but she's also left enough that all Republicans super hate her. Right. But also to call her the most divisive politician in the country when we have Trump for president is a little bit of an exaggeration. But that's a right-wing operative having to do spin to be like, well, don't worry. We have a plan too when it's. Look, let's be real. They're also fighting an uphill battle too.

It's just that we're making it difficult. They are pointing to her for a reason. I just think there's something, like the last time- It's probably just because she's an older lady. Right. Well, the thing this reminded me of is Marsha Clark from the OJ trial

and they kind of have the same hairdo. So I'm like wondering if there's like- Nancy Pelosi does not have a wacky perm like Marsha Clark did. I'm wondering if there's something about like that just general look that makes conservative. I think also too, she reminds them of the Obama administration, which is speaker. So you have that also to, you know, get people fired up. She's also been in power for a really long time, you know, she's just been there for a really long time. So there's a lot to, yeah, there's a lot of history

to go through and things to blame on her because of her long career. Yeah. There's also a really interesting article in Bloomberg today that is by a Pulitzer Prize winning nonfiction writer talking about sort of this alternate history of Watergate that I hadn't really been familiar with. Where Nixon was innocent. Right. Basically Nixon Nixon was innocent. Right. Basically Nixon – Nixon innocent. Nixon was the victim of a handful of liberal journalists from Washington and New York

who were out to, quote, get the president. I mean I thought that was the whole point. Right. Right, right. I mean – Is this a secret? Oh, but you're saying in terms of like spinning that into like a culture war kind of thing of like this, the liberal media agenda to take Nixon sort of thing. Yeah. Essentially, like the thing that I had always heard was it's crazy that Nixon won by this landslide election, like right before Watergate.

But it's actually when you think about that, people don't just change their mind. Like all those people who voted for him weren't just like, well, we were wrong, because that's just not how human minds- Said no human ever. Yeah, exactly. They said they were just like, well, this is fine. Right. They were just angry and they just buried that and were angry at the media. And this person draws continuity between sort of that, the buried resentment for taking Nixon down, right through Reagan, who actually never admitted that Nixon had done anything wrong and said that it was all a conspiracy to take down Nixon by the media. And then I really think

you can almost connect it. when put in this context, you can draw a line straight through Trump and his ability to tap into Nixon came to power via this. I think it was called like the invisible majority where, you know, he talked about tapping into this. That's all the ghosts that vote. Right. Exactly. But it's, you know, it's basically the same people who voted Trump in. And it's not necessarily the blue collar people we think it is. It's just, you know, I think it can be a term for, you know, resentful white people or like racist white people who are willing to vote on. Invisible majority sounds a lot better than racist white people. Right. I just think it's this is kind of going back to that Empire Strikes Back thing where like

I've just been reading all these articles that are making me think like actually, you know, in my mind going into 2020, I was like, yeah, it would be like a huge upset if Trump were to actually win again because he's like proven himself to be so insanely incompetent. But if you view him on a continuum with like Nixon and Reagan, those guys both won reelection in like historic landslides. And I just, I don't know. He seems- You think that's going to happen again? I'm just saying it might be a question worth asking rather than just assuming that he's going to be swept out of office. I mean, yeah. If you're asking me, do I think Trump will be reelected?

Abso-fucking-lutely. Yeah, it's possible. It's possible completely. It's definitely not out of the realm of possibility. If you think anything's impossible, you've not been paying attention to the last two to five years. Well, I think the other thing to consider, you know, that kind of adds to the sort of dampening of enthusiasm is when you look at like the Cook Political Report, who does a lot of the projections and things on House pickups, Senate pickups going into the midterms right now. Democrat pickups are around 25 to 40 seats in the House, which is enough to take control of the House.

Democrat pickups are around 25 to 40 seats in the House, which is enough to take control of the House. But on the Senate side is not as sort of they're not as confident that there's going to be major pickups. They're saying maybe the Democrats can pick up two seats, but they also believe that the Republicans pick up around one, maybe more. So it would be an interesting thing to see the House go blue, but then the Senate go further red, which would be which would be a rare instance. But, yeah, that's another thing to kind of pay attention to. And I think a lot of the reason why it's easy to get swept up and feel like really good about, oh man, Trump would be out all these scandals, is because there's all this focus on the scandal. And that just sort of contributes to this, I think, sort of sentiment of like, oh, of course this can't stand that much longer.

Of course this can't stand much longer. Do you remember the fucking election? Do you remember how grab him by the pussy happened and his numbers went up? Like, I don't understand what level of scandal is, is like, if you think that everything bad that has happened during the Trump presidency is going to make it harder for him to get reelected,

please remember how fucking awful 2016 was and how things just kept coming out and coming out and he said more and more terrible things and it did not make a difference because the people that voted for trump don't give a fuck yeah you know what i mean they either don't care or they thought that he was gonna bring them something good enough jobs essentially that would make it they were like you know what i don't care if he says misogynist things i just want my coal mining job back right but like more often it's just rich people that are like, I don't give a fuck what he says. He's going to make sure I got my money. Right. And the other thing, too, is he did a good job of selling people on a product. I mean, he had people thinking that they were going to have better health care than they do now. And it was going to be cheaper. He told people he was going to take care of them and they believed him. And the fact that he said all that terrible shit either they were like that's great i also secretly hate mexicans or they were like i don't hate mexicans but i also need health care more than i need more immigrants here you know so like i don't i just don't see how

any like the world is backwards now everything bad he does helps him when i think that's why it's it's a little weird when like a lot of the messaging is centered around what trump is doing like we already know if you're trying to convince me about how bad donald trump is everyone is convinced yeah you're not going to sway that what democrats need to do is sell a fucking product yeah again you can't just be like hey we're better than trump because yeah no shit everyone is but like this is again like how could could Hillary lose an election against somebody who was like by all normal metrics? She should have fucking wiped the floor with him. Right. Just on the basis of her being a more experienced politician who was not openly racist. You know, but but she didn't because that was all she had.

She was just like, hey, I'm not Trump. And then it's like, no, some because like right now it's Doug Jones barely won. Right. Barely won on the basis of I'm not an obvious pedophile. Like if we are going to pick up 25 to 40 seats in the House, if Democrats are going to do that, like again, you have to have something other than I'm not a racist. I'm not a pedophile because clearly nobody gives a fuck. Well, that doesn't connect to how am I going to feed my kids? How am I going to pay for my medication? How am I going to do this?

I don't give a fuck if Trump is having an affair. How the fuck are you going to strengthen the labor union? How are you going to subsidize my medication. How am I going to do this? I don't give a fuck if Trump is having an affair. Yeah. How the fuck are you going to strengthen the labor union? How are you going to subsidize my child care? Can you give me a full time job with benefits

because nobody fucking has that anymore? Can you make college affordable for my kids? Can you make health care something that I have fucking access to? Can you like give me

give me food stamps? Give me something. Right. There's still time, but there's a lot of work to be done. So, I mean, yeah, because, you know,

it's fun to parade around with, like, Michael Avenatti's getting everybody excited with leaks and shit. Yeah, you can't just get away with, hey, we believe in global warming anymore. Like, great. What are you going to fucking do? So we'll see. We'll see, huh? Yeah. Or maybe we won't. Maybe we'll all be dead.

Yeah, maybe we'll just, you know, I don't know. How's your kid, Jack? Great. Is he voting in the midterms? I hope so. Is he registered? So I also wanted to talk about a bias that has been sort of making itself more evident to me in the past couple weeks. And that is the conservative bias by the mainstream media. You usually hear the mainstream media referred to as having a liberal bias.

That's what Alex Jones told me. I think that's generally agreed to by the mainstream media that, oh, yeah, they have a liberal bias and then Fox has a conservative bias, and that's just like those are the two sides. And I think that's – That's what Fox News wants you to believe too is that they're this antidote yeah they've they've successfully

defined the argument or that we use these labels that because you're reporting on shit that's liberal right but if you're

spinning shit as propaganda that's conservative right and I was noticing it a lot with NPR this morning and NPR is supposed

to be liberal right NPR is like supposed to be the most liberal outlet. Yeah. Like if you're going to central casting the idea of a liberal hipster, it's someone who has like an NPR shirt on. Yeah.

But I think people who work at these outlets are sort of conditioned to think that they are doing a good job and being fair and balanced anytime they make a concession to conservatives. Right. And so there was an interview that NPR conducted in the past couple of days with John Kelly where he says just all sorts of wild shit about illegal immigrants. No. That NPR like edited down to make it seem. Yeah, it's very. So let's hear how they presented this interview. So this is what aired.

So this is what aired. And then so this is them like amongst talking things about the Iran deal, North Korea, things like that. They get to immigration. And this was specifically something about the zero tolerance policy that the administration announced where they're like, we don't give a fuck. We're breaking up families because we're empathetic. Anyway, so this is the journalist setting up this answer from John Kelly.

Well, you can really hear that in his comments. They differ from his boss's polarizing rhetoric, and yet they still agree on tough border controls. Let me step back and tell you that the vast majority of the people that move illegally into the United States are not bad people. They're not criminals, they're not MS-13. But they're also not people that would easily assimilate into the United States. They're overwhelmingly rural people. In the countries they come from, fourth, fifth, sixth grade educations are kind of the norm. They're coming here for a reason, and I sympathize with the reason. But the laws are the laws. So yeah, dumb and poor and rural, doesn't sound like america at all yeah no that doesn't sound like the exact same attacks

that i'm sure the irish and italians faced prior to them it's crazy also like y'all see that children of the opioid crisis thing like you're telling me those people aren't poor and rural and have fifth sixth seventh grade educations like they're fucking americans they live in this country yeah but it's crazy that they framed that as this guy is more measured and reasonable. Right, and that was his response. But what's crazy is they left out the real problematic shit in that answer.

So he goes on to say, he just goes fourth, sixth grade educations are kind of the norm. Then he goes on, they don't speak English. Obviously, that's a big thing. And then it's ellipsis. I don't know what was there. They don't integrate well. They don't have skills. They're not bad people. They don't have skills. Yeah, they don't speak english obviously that's a big thing and then it's ellipsis i don't know what was there they don't integrate well they don't have skills they're not bad people they

don't have skills yeah they don't integrate well they don't have skills they left that whole other part out to like before going back to they don't i would love to see john kelly's nanny yeah right it's uh i think it's just like a broomstick wearing an Uncle Sam costume or something. So going on, another thing I was listening to on NPR was their politics show, Weekly Roundup, where they were talking about North Korea. And they described it as, you know, the release of the hostages is undoubtedly a win because that's what the perception is. And they even refer to polling that shows that people think people are now more willing to trust Trump on North Korea. And they basically report they follow the trends of what the sort of central belief is of the country,

rather than pointing out that it's a wild misconception that people are thinking that Trump is doing good on North Korea. So just going through a couple of the things they talked about, they say his tough talk may be working is the thought that people have, like by threatening North Korea, his tough talk. I mean, is it working? We don't know yet. I mean, realistically, we don't know yet, right? I'd say the chances are that North Korea and Kim Jong-un think they can fleece him because he's chaotic and the opposite of careful.

Like, for instance, during the hostage release, he said Kim Jong-un treated the hostage as well, which is just like a crazy thing that he said off the cuff. Which is insane. No person who has had their freedom taken away from them for any amount of time is not going to come out unscathed. And this NPR show said specifically that him calling him Rocket Man worked. Worked in what was it supposed to fucking accomplish? First of all, it was not by design. It was clearly out of a need to out dick measure Kim Jong Un. But getting North Korea to come to the table and meet with the U.S. president is not an accomplishment.

Past presidents didn't do it because they wouldn't do it. It's a big concession to North Korea. We just gave them we just gave them a huge bargaining chip. And like he agreed to it without consulting with any advisors. He did it just off the fucking cuff. And this is a a huge way and it's being painted as this big victory is covering it as like this guy is a miracle where he finally got north korea to sit down and fuck us right clinton like was the last person who was even considering a meeting with north korea he sent madeline albright and she was like no fucking way way. These people are crazy. They're like, we're not even, we're nowhere close to like being able

to meet together. And I don't know, it just seems like he's doing everything for the purposes of short-term self-aggrandizement. Like people, it's very clear that he's doing that, but because there's this misconception that, oh, he's, you know, winning on North Korea because people see this meeting as a good thing and a political win. NPR is just, you know, following along and being like, yeah, I mean, he's clearly winning and being bold and daring with this gambit. Again, because I think a lot of these people, they don't want to get into a situation where suddenly Breitbart and people people they drum up the people on the right to be like look at this crazy liberal biases and they don't want to have to defend

themselves you know I think it's easier to just like do this half-assed reporting and not and just sort of spin it and something like a soft way still have facts let the reader kind of figure it out you're just like I mean they're just echoing the line that that you know Huckabee Sanders is giving which is like, it's this great major victory for us to sit down with North Korea, when in reality, number one, what is that going to accomplish? North Korea is just going to be like, hey, fuck you, and then it's going to be over. Yeah, we have no idea.

We have no idea that pulling out of the Iran deal is going to affect that. I mean, not to mention that he left two American people that are in prison over there. Yeah, just because things are happening doesn't mean any of them are good or that it's progress. But that's what the Trump administration wants you to believe, is that, hey, we're sitting American people that are in prison over there. Yeah, just because things are happening doesn't mean any of them are good or that it's progress. But that's what the Trump administration wants you to believe is that, hey, we're sitting down and we're talking and things are happening. But journalists are supposed to be the ones saying, actually, this might not be a good thing. But instead, they're just given the line. That's like when I would try to write a term paper in college and I would consider opening up Word and creating a new document as work that day.

Yeah. Because I'm not about to write these 20 pages. Yeah. But I just did this. Let me open the application. And then be like, well, you know, I started it. In my head, I'll be like, you know, I'm starting it. What did I do? I'm looking at a blinking cursor on a blank document.

I think also it's exhausting to just point out how wrong they are in everything they say over and over. That is your whole podcast, Jack. It gives the appearance. Exactly. You know why I've lost most of my hair now. But it gives the appearance of being balanced if sometimes you're saying, well, good for them on that one, though. No, that's not what balance is.

You can't do that just by definition, just because you feel like you need a positive statement in there you're not an nba ref who's just given a foul on the other side of the court because you missed one right i mean isn't this what that guy in the philippines did where he was like hey if you don't write good stuff about my administration uh you don't get to come to press conferences that's supposed to be a thing that we don't do in america but i think it's a thing that journalists know is gonna happen or is already happening where if you don't support some of their shit, they're just

gonna not give you the beat that you cover. That is your job. Right. That's why they need some wealthy people to just fucking bankroll these things, and they can just... Oh, come on, dude. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying, that's... What, you want an Elon Musk paper? No, no, no, no, no. The Bezos Gazette? Not like that, but a conglomeration, like, I think because advertising

is ultimately affecting everything. And that's part of the equation. That is what papers lived off of. Yeah, because they're like, well, fuck. But who do you think is owning these advertising? Who's paying for the ads? It's just all these major companies and billionaires and stuff. They're the ones paying for these papers.

And if they don't like what's in the paper, they're not going to advertise. And then the paper's dead. Right. What I'm saying is even though despite that, I'm like, if you can if you can eliminate the need for an advertisement in a in a paper, right, and it can just be pure journalism, that's really the only way I think that you can remedy or not that it's the only way to remedy that. But that's a contributing factor.

Well, that's what the Internet was supposed to be. It was supposed to be a place where you could run a publication for a much lower cost because you don't have to print anything. Right. So you were supposed to be able to have less advertisers. But I mean, how did that turn out? Gawker got bought like everything's run by the advertisers. Like putting different money into an industry is not a way to like get less control.

Right. Well, but if you're beholden to the revenue from advertising, then what's the way around that is what I'm saying. I don't think there is one. If you are beholden to advertising, you're beholden to advertising. Like whoever's got the money is like the idea of a free press is is a purely like theoretical. Right. Right. If there was a way to run a truly free press, then, yeah, you could you would have at least reporters biases, but you wouldn't have.

Right. I don't think like maybe it's a little pessimistic, but the way that the industry works and the way that the press is forced to operate under under capitalism, which is what we do, which means you have to depend on advertisers. There's no way. I mean, and what's the other option is a government run newspaper. Yeah. Well, which is not much better. Yeah. Fox. At the same time, like, I mean, the... It is a little pathetic. It's supposed to be the fourth estate. Like, the Democratic government does not work, just period, if you don't have a thriving media that can independently report facts and, you know, I don't know, give 20% of the military budget to, you know, media outlets and see if that helps. Yeah, because we don't value the free press in this country as much as you know the alt-right will scream about free speech yeah we don't fucking care about that and we don't care about schools and we don't care about art because we don't fund these things like compared to other countries we don't give money for independent press no no i

mean we don't do anything that would we don't do anything inspire anything remotely close to free thinking. Exactly. So, like, this was sort of the point the whole time. Yeah. The alt-right wouldn't exist if we had an active and functioning fourth estate. Just one other place I've been seeing this sort of rightward tilt

in mainstream media coverage is of the CIA director hearings. More girl power in the CIA. Yeah. Rock on. You can't fucking write this shit. Yas queen torture. She has refused to disavow the torture.

Who's she, Jack? Gina Haspel. Gina Haspel, the director of the CIA, or presumptive, soon to be, had her hearing earlier this week. It lasted two hours, and she was pressed on the fact that she was involved with the waterboarding of terrorism suspects. And, you know, okay, I think some people were like, back then, that's what people thought was okay. And she was sent into this black site after somebody had been waterboarded 80 times and had to be resuscitated.

And I heard a CIA person say, actually, we sent her in because we wanted her to get a fucking handle on it because it was just like out of control. And she only waterboarded people two times or whatever. Fine. But she, at her hearing, refused to condemn. Yeah, say it was immoral. Yeah, she didn't say it was immoral, and she wouldn't say that it was impractical or that it doesn't work. Which, if that was the case, if she was sent in to get the shit under control, then she failed.

She should have been coming out saying, we were fucking up and waterboarding a lot, and I came in and I said no. Knock that shit off. Knock that shit off, butboarding a lot. And I came in and I said, no. Knock that shit off. Knock that shit off. But she didn't. And I only did two waterboards. Right. I didn't do like 80 like fucking Rick or whatever.

I fired that intern. Yeah. I fired that waterboarding intern. And the other tack that they're taking is now you have people trying to justify torture to make her look cleaner. Right. Because whether it's to be like, well, they're just sexist, which is the first argument they tried to do because she's, well, I mean, the torture's so ladylike.

The new thing is that- Real women torture. Right. That they're trying to spin torture, like Dick Cheney's dumb fucking ass came back out from the grave, from the Death Star, being like, well, we should analyze it.

I think it wasn't really- There's an argument to be made for torture. Yeah, it wasn't, or he said it wasn't called, it wasn't considered torture back then. Okay, buddy. That's not fucking true. The thing that people don't report in mainstream media. We were all alive.

I remember waterboarding always being torture. But I feel like the thing that people don't report in the mainstream media is that it has been investigated. We've looked at whether it works or not, and it doesn't get you. You're no more likely to get accurate information. What you get is what they think you want you're no more likely to get accurate information. What you get is what they think you want to hear. Yeah, to stop the pain. If you break them, they will tell you what they think you want to hear. They won't, it has no bearing on the truth. Somebody pointed out that John McCain, while he's like against

torture and therefore against Haspel, that he, on the other hand, is an example that torture works because he's like so, you know, shell shocked from it or whatever. And actually it didn't work. He says that he told the people who were torturing him and who asked for the names, he gave them the names of the Green Bay Packers offensive line. I mean, regardless of whether or not he did or didn't, you know, the idea of just even like, this guy just went on TV and he's like, was like sort of maligning him, just being like, they called him singing John

or something like that. And it's like, first of all, don't get that. You don't need to get messy like that. But it was on Fox Business of all channels too. I don't know why they were, they don't have those hot takes when they're, I don't know why on the business channel. Day traders.

Yeah. But then even today, like it's weird how now, I don't know why they were they don't have those hot takes when they're I don't know why on the on the business channel traders. Yeah. But then even today, like it's it's weird how now just because John McCain has been such an outspoken critic of torture that even then there are people in the like up to be the head of the CIA who has old life or career CIA operatives screaming in the middle of confirmation about how she's dangerous. Yeah, like, this is an abomination. She's getting heckled in a hearing. Dude, dislocated this old man's arm. Because he was standing up. A former CIA agent. Yeah, because he was like, yo, this is bullshit. This is fucked up.

When the CIA operatives are saying this is fucked up like when the CIA operatives are saying this is fucked up yeah who knows what this guy did in the 70s like whatever the fuck you know you know who's a good CIA agent is a terrible person so like if a CIA agent is saying this woman does shit that's morally unacceptable like that's that's so dark I don't want to think about it but it's also I feel like the way that I've seen it covered in the mainstream media is that it's an unfortunate fact that this stuff works. And like sometimes you have to do it because it was after 9-11 and, you know, we had to be like get down to business. And it's considered a necessary evil. Right.

And in addition to being shown to not work and just get you whatever they think you want to hear, It's been shown to be bad from a national security perspective because it makes people hate us. It makes us seem like we think we're above international law because there is international law against it, which isn't great in a week when we are breaking our contracts with foreign countries. Yeah, and also, I mean, it's important for her to come out and disavow this as completely immoral

because she's going to work for a commander in chief who has come out and said he thinks it's not wrong. Yeah. He has zero boundaries. And he's like, and like kill the families. Right. Like is his tactic to deal with terror. Yeah.

He's like, kill everybody. He's like, I bring waterboarding back and I'd bring a lot worse back. Uh, he specifically said that and said that like like he thinks we should be torturing harder. in every single election, every single self-determination attempt that every single country in the Middle East, our decades-long efforts to destabilize the Middle East and just draw all its oil out. Right. And he's like, no, the problem is that they hate our freedoms and we're not torturing hard enough.

Right. You know what I mean? As if the reason that other countries hate us is just because we're America and we're cool. They hate us because they ain't us. They hate us because they ain't us. And it's, I just like- It's so disingenuous. It's so disingenuous and it's so like,

the idea that we're not winning because we're not torturing hard enough rather than we're not winning because we caused all the problems that we're fighting against anyway. Yeah, it's very reductive but yeah but see americans don't want to hear that yeah i know that's not to justify it but that's you know that's just the hard shit the hard factor to this country that it's hard for people to

wrestle with that yo we like 90 like 99 out of 100 questions you can answer with i think the u.s did something and even trump has come out that, yeah, one of his generals got to him and was like, yo, torture doesn't work, dude. It just doesn't work. And so now he's changed his tune on that, but he still thinks it's justified and that he should use it if it did work. He just likes it. Right. He just, whatever. But it's just insane that she wouldn't come out and say it was immoral and npr talked about this like it's a harsh but effective thing uh and i don't know there just seems to be a supposedly liberal journalist who takes everything national

security experts say to them as gospel because they feel insecure because the conservatives and hawks have made them feel like bitches for not wanting war. Right. Yeah. If you're not for waterboarding, then I guess you don't really care about America. Right. Now, granted, Haspel has come out and said she's not going to restart torturing people if she does get confirmed as the head of the CIA.

The specific places she wouldn't budge are coming out and saying, you know, what was done when she was in charge of that black site was wrong and that torture was ineffective. Both things that I think are obviously true. Pretty easy things to say. Yeah. Right. But it was bad and ineffective.

So I won't do it again versus like, it was fine. I won't do it again. Versus like, it was fine. I won't do it probably. But the NPR reporter that I was listening to was like, well, those are big asks because, you know, that's asking her to come out and, you know, throw the people who she had worked with under the bus. And it's just like, this doesn't make you look tough. This doesn't make you look balanced. This just makes you look like an asshole. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

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And there was one of the great international sporting events. Bigger than the Olympics. Bigger than the Olympics. Bigger than, I mean, fuck, the NBA playoffs. Bigger than the World Cup. Is the annual game that's played in Russia where Putin fucking bangs on a bunch of fucking losers in hockey. So the fourth term emperor of Russia, he played in his annual match this year and it's where he is basically won every time. So this year his team is made up of former NHL players like fucking Pavel Bure and Slava Fedesov. Putin every year is like, time for me to play some hockey.

And then he gets a team together of professional hockey players. Former, former. Former professional Russian hockey players. And they play who? They play an opposing team of amateurs, like a governor, brother amateurs, and a, quote, pro-Putin billionaire is who the opposition team is. That's a fucking bad news bears. Yeah.

That's an underdog story. It's fucking amazing, this game, when you watch the highlights. Because this dude, the way they are defending him, it's like he has VX nerve agent coming off of his body. Like, they're not trying to get near him. Also, my man, he used to play hockey for many years. Your wrist shot is fucking sus, son. You got to get your wrist shot up. Also, the goalkeeper

how'd you let him go tweeners on you like that it was just there were so many goals that were scored like in a way that i was cringing for the people who like had to even quote unquote defend him yeah uh but you know this is how it gets down this is how you flex on the country let them know that yeah big dogs are charged he's scoring wild, five goals in this game. But you can tell his 65 years of age is catching up to him because if you look, last year, he scored seven goals. Okay? 2015, scored fucking eight. Wow. So, you know, he's getting up there.

But still a warrior's – He's feeling it. Feeling it in the knees. A warrior's performance he gave against a team of amateurs. How many years before you think we have this same... With Trump? Yeah, with Trump. I hope zero.

I hope it happens immediately. Because can you imagine that slow motion video of Trump jogging around a court? It's like a net bag full of water balloons just swaying and jiggling. His body is only built for golf. That's the only thing he can do. He can barely walk on a private jet. He can't play baseball. He can't run.

He's not running those bases. I bet he could convince himself that he could play baseball because I think there was, at a certain point, where he said that he was one of the great baseball players. You should see me turn, too. Oh my god. Y'all seen that ass.

He has baseball ass. Let's get that ass in some basketball shorts and let's get it on the court let's get him and lebron it's in the same place it should be him uh fucking what's the little racist troll dude's name who grew up in santa monica stephen miller oh yeah him stephen miller seb gorka uh mike pence sarah sarah hugby sanders versus cheryl swoops lebron james kevin durant skip to my loo from the anwa mixt, hot sauce, and just like fucking twist these suckers up. Oh, my God.

That would be hilarious. But it won't happen because. Gorgeous. Gorgeous. Yeah. Are we far off? Maybe not from seeing this kind of shit because that's precisely the kind of thing. Look, if we're going to live in a dystopia, I want the fun part.

Right. I want the fun part. I want to see the president out of breath. I want to see him throw up courtside from jogging three steps. Not going to see that. He would probably sooner make up a sport that is uniquely suited to him. Like first, you're going to see how many Big Macs you can eat. And then you're going to hit one golf ball.

Then you are going to pick out a wife and then destroy evidence. Right. All right. It's time for our weekly segment of Bloid Watch. Bloid Watch. So there's some big news in the world of Brad Pitt. Depending on which magazine you pick up. At least the tabloids are claiming that.

The tabloids decided we need a big Brad Pitt story this week. They couldn't get together, get their stories together. So on one cover, it is that Brad got somebody pregnant. It's not his MIT girlfriend, they say. It's not Angelina. It's not an MIT girlfriend? Yeah, professor. She was dating a professor at MIT, supposedly.

Good job her. Yeah. But this is based on an anonymous source and also the fact that some of Star Magazine's like celeb watchers saw him out and about and he seemed stressed about something. He had his hand on his stomach, patting his stomach, which as we know from you know

soap operas if a woman touches her stomach and like looks off pensively that means she's pregnant so apparently the transitive property says the same thing about Brad Pitt. I don't wash my stomach because I don't want to get pregnant. I don't touch it. I don't look at it. Yeah. No that's this is how they also said he has puffy eyes

more gray hairs on his beard than normal. Those are all the signs. I mean, that's how he got some random person pregnant. That's how my wife learned that we were pregnant was that I was touching my stomach. She was like, should I get a pregnancy test? And you were like, no, no, no. I got some grays.

Look at these eyes. Hold on. Hold on. Oh, my God. I'm pregnant, Jack. Wait, are you touching your stomach? Wait, on that one? Oh, God.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. Lots of women don't know. If you look at a man while touching your stomach, he has one Oh god This is so Oh my god Lots of women don't know If you look at a man While touching your stomach He has impregnated you Yes exactly I'm now having Miles' baby

Because we made eye contact I just closed my eyes While I was touching my stomach I've got a lot of women Pregnant like that On And in Touch Magazine The cover story

Is that Brad Going to get Jen pregnant Wait so On one side he knocked up a random woman. We don't know who it is. And the only evidence we have is that he walked down the street looking like shit. And then in another magazine is the cover story. Specifically, let's have a baby, Brad and Jen.

So and it's a picture of them together from like 200 from like 15 years ago when they were actually a couple. A 2006 interview with Jennifer Aniston has a quote saying that women who inspire her have kids and a career. A 2006 interview that they dug up with Jennifer Aniston said that she is inspired by women who have both kids and a career. Oh, okay. And they found a friend, an anonymous friend, obviously, of Jennifer Aniston who says that they could do IVF because she's a little older. Wait, so this is – As of yet – so we've been reporting on this story about Brad and Jen.

They moved in together. Jen is really getting along with his children that he had with Angie. Now they're deciding that they're going to have kids, potentially via IVF. We still have no proof that they've even seen each other since he got a divorce from yeah but but jack

you're missing the point anonymous story anonymous sources have claimed uh she saw an interview where she said she would like to have in 2006 yeah so she might do ivf right all right print it yep uh is this all just because the tabloids don't want to talk about kanye like why not i just i don't understand why why Kanye's not the cover story. It's too thought-provoking. And it's also, you know, these are mostly owned by American Media Inc., which is run by David Peckar,

who is Trump's homie. Nice. And, you know, what is there to say about Kanye other than that he's right? He gots it. Kanye gots it. He gets it. He gots it. Kanye woke up. He gets it. He got it.

Kanye woke up. Right. And now we can talk about the real important shit, which is whether Jennifer Aniston is going to get IVF or not. Right. But yeah, I mean, we've seen actual stories where it's very clear that these are either written specifically in Trump's voice for Trump's eyes. You know, like they're just like Hillary Clinton, bad person.

She deserves to go to jail. It's like all just word for word, like the stuff you would hear. She had an affair with Satan. Right. And yeah, so and then OK Magazine tells us that Katie and Jamie are getting married. Who's Katie and Jamie? Katie Holmes and Jamie Foxx. Come on.

What? Magic hairline Jamie Foxx. Whoa. And Katie Holmes tying the knot. Jamie Foxx. Oh, so happy for him. And we know it's true because it's according to a source. Jamie and Suri are apparently best friends,

according to a source. And it would happen in France and be a low-key affair. Likely her dress will be designed by a friend of hers who's a designer named Zach, who I don't know his name. Zach Posen? Yes. And that's it. No other sourcing.

So it's happening. All the intriguing celebrity news that you see on the covers of this week's tabloids are based on anonymous sources, or, yeah, basically that's it. Just anonymous sources. And like the royal wedding stuff. Tabloids are just fanfic, you know? I think it must have not sold many magazines

because it's starting to die off. Well, not really. I mean, I'm happy to talk about American celebrities. I don't want to hear shit about Meghan Markle anymore. You're saying Meghan Markle isn't an American celebrity. I know she's an American celebrity, but her celebrity is tied to the British Royal family, which I am, in general, not a huge fan of.

All right. Anything, any other story we wanted to hit? I mean, any other story? There's one about like, I think it says Kanye like left Kim or something in a fight. Really, they just described that Kim's like, you're fucking up our brand. And he had to go somewhere

so so he left her I mean technically he did leave her to go somewhere I love that the the tabloid story is just Connie being like

I'm going she's like where are you going and he's like out I'm traveling somewhere yeah exactly namely me no Sara it has been a pleasure

having you it has been a pleasure being here Jack where can people hear more from you? You could go to my website, heysarahjune.com. You can also go to leftcoastpodcast.com to find links to listen to Left Coast and donate to the Patreon, please. Yeah.

Because I need that cash. I'm also going up the coast the next couple weeks. I have some stand-up shows in San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Olympia. If you live in any of those places, please come see me. Yeah, yeah. No, the Zyke Gang is strong in the Pacific Northwest. So please check her out. Come see Sarah June.

Sarah June. HeySarahJune.com. All my show dates are there. All my other shit. Check it out. Also, you know what? If y'all know Nyan Cat, why don't you hook the sister up with a buck or something? Hey, guess what my Venmo is?

Hey Sarah June. Oh, see? You can give me money at any time of day. And no bullshit. I have to always underline this. The fucking phenomenon is the Ankit. We don't even talk about that

because that's like so down the list of what you do. That's 2011 Zeitgeist. That's forgotten. That's forgotten. But at the same way, massive contributions

to the Zeitgeist. Thank you so much. Only you. My pleasure. Oh, no, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

No, thank you. No, thank you. All right. Thank you. Go watch Age Gap Love. Thank you. Miles where can people find you? You can find me. Oh, no, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. No, thank you. No, thank you. All right. Go watch Age Gap Love. Thank you. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me. Oh, my God.

Stressed out moving this weekend. So if you see me in the valley sweating, just please leave me alone. I'm going through a very hard time moving. Where can you find Miles? Dumb. Yeah, dumb. He's busy. I'm fucking busy.

But I'm also on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.

We got sources. As well as... Not anonymous. The song that we write out on Miles, what's that going to be today? Oh, man. Gosh. You know what? I want to do a little J Dilla produced song by Dilla.

So verbal clap. J Dilla flips it and reverses it, rubs it down, and, you know, kick off your Saturday or Friday, whenever you listen to this, a little verbal clap. That's going to do it for this week. We will be back on Monday. Talk to you guys then this little verbal clap. That's going to do it for this week. We will be back on Monday. Talk to you guys then. Bye.

Bye. Bye. So what he's doing? On tempo, Jack. NYC gave you the bomb. So how you gonna hate us? We creators of the East Coast songs. If you ask me, I tell you there's no calm. But I'm still humble even though I will crumble hard.

Some call them songs. I call them words from me. They take long to cook. So some feel free in saying that we don't hunger for beats Not that we not hungry, just picky in what we eat Keep food off the mind and keep weight off the body All you gotta do is keep my name out your mouth And stop frowning like you hostile You know that it's a booger rubbing up against your nostril

Nigga, how you figure you can play this rap game without the backbone? This makes the old Dave wonder why I give it what you back home Hey yo prepare yourself for the new trime bitch This is 86, let that neo-rap go We present these flares to put fire to your ears Till they smoke like rusty exhaust pipes We run mics, let Sean run the marathon Yo raise that money son, we raisin' these kids

Get claps, curtains closed, stage left Up your stamina baby, brace your breath SAT, Puck smart, pod SA, low can light tone Street niggas get grown, acquire more proof Before you get proof, I get some shells sent over to your mic booth Excuse my delivery, but when peace don't work See this peace gon' work, cock aim and shoot It's been constitutional right to bear arms

Arms and bare hands on mics, make fans unite Woodstock and white folks involved Black man, get on your jaw Let's go beat for beat and rhymes for rhymes Put all things side Just bring your beats and bring your rhymes Put all things side Let's go beat for beat and rhyme for rhyme Put all things side Just bring your beats and bring your rhymes Put all things side The heavyweight and live brother with no date Of expiration on his fate on the mic

Them verbs they keep coming I'm hating on my niggas I love most So what threat could you possibly pose when I'm on your coast? So raise your guns or your glasses Either way there'll be a toast in the air Marking a return, a bare minimum You need to learn Get your verbs right or you down to clap See that gunpowder caliber rapper tip hats like gentlemen do Splash tenements and skyscrapers Bow tie papers, stack hot Pay the resident tax and get the streets sweep Front row, backstage, on the cheap seats

I dial drinker shades like Ram Trucks who slow poke the bullets And I suppose the bullet popped the billboard chart Man, I toast these guys and let them pop like pop tarts Let's go beat for beat and rhyme for rhyme Put all things aside Just bring for beat and ride for ride Put all things side Just bring the beats and bring your rhymes Put all things side Let's go beat for beat y'all and ride for ride

Put all things side Just bring the beats and bring your rhymes Put all things side Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that?

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