The Daily Zeitgeist - The Invasion Of Trendezuela 1/5: Trump, Venezuela, MTV, Drake/Stake, Betty Boop

Episode Date: January 5, 2026

In this edition of The Invasion Of Trendezuela, Jack and Miles discuss their respective holidays, the last couple of weeks of Trump's antics and war crimes, RIP to MTV, Drake getting sued for being Dr...ake asl, new public domain characters just dropped (feat. Betty Boop, Sam Spade, Nancy Drew, & Ms. Marple) and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 did you watch did you watch the two of the ditty documentary at all no just watch the first two episodes that yeah really focuses on bad boy death row all of that it's fucking wild i didn't know how he got his start with like that whole party shit that's wild yeah yeah yeah and his mom throwing the parties i mean but yeah the part's mom was thrown the party his mom used to throw like basically freak off freak out freakoffs and he was there like he was all he was always at freak off since childhood yeah and then like it's crazy too because his dad was like a hustler went to jail but his mom had all the money so he grew up rich as fuck and but also like this if like a feet private school kid who wanted to be a gangster so badly that everything was about overcome compensating for like yeah like he had this legend of his father to live up to sort of but his dad wasn't there so he was just like kind of making it up as he went the best kind of thing yeah is a kid with a ton of money with an absent father and a point to proof i've seen i've literally seen this
Starting point is 00:01:16 a hundred times we're seeing it right now in the white house yeah yeah why what happened we're gonna catch you up catch you up i literally i wouldn't even even heard of about Venezuela if TAMBO hadn't told me. My feeds are completely locked. I didn't hear shit. You're insulated. I didn't hear shit. It's weird. And now it's a little concerning. Yeah, where I'm like, okay, you can let me know about this. Yeah, I was pretty insulated till 15 minutes ago. I'm trying to cram here, guys. I thought we were, full transparency, I thought Venezuela was bad. I didn't even know Venezuela was a country. I thought it was somewhere in California.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I thought it was like one of those. Oh, it was that pitcher's last name? Fernando Venezuela. Yeah. Hi, I'm Dr. Priyankowali. And I'm Hurricane de Bolu. It's a new year. And on the podcast's health stuff,
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Starting point is 00:03:15 Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of their daily sight, guys. That's new. That's new for this year. I'm doing something new for this year. Yeah. That's not just because you're coming out of a news hibernation and finding everything fucked. All right, I'll bite.
Starting point is 00:03:35 What's Valenzuela? January 5th, 2026. Happy January 6th, Eve to you. Yes. And pre-Piles' house burned out Eve. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I can't believe it's been a fucking year. How are you celebrating? Do we? Herbasti and I were like, what do we do? Yeah, it's a great question Do like it feels like we got to do something I think we're just going to go to ground zero Yeah
Starting point is 00:04:04 Just be like, all right All right Remember that Remember when we lived here? Remember the dreams here? But honestly like I said on the last episode It's you know All as well that ends well
Starting point is 00:04:19 Somehow you know if you have a good outlook And you got a good group around you You can get through anything but yeah Hey any suggestions guys for what I should do uh totally i do have when the when the like when we were leaving i had like a like a nugget of weed that i held i've held on to for a year because i was so sentimental oh you got spoke that at ground zero i was like i was like this is this is from there and this is one of the last few that if i get high from the before weed it sounds like a terrible comedy yeah
Starting point is 00:04:52 you have like a freaky friday situation yeah time travel Yeah, I'm just saying. Then you meet like a nom vet who has like weed from nom? And you're like, what, dude? Hit that, you're back in Vietnam. Yeah, could be. Yeah, remember in Sponfire. I have a friend who's like real good about ceremonies and doing stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:05:12 And he's so bad at that. I know me too. I mean, we don't have to know when we've done like 2,000 episodes or whatever. I know. Sentimentality is not our thing. We keep our heads down and we keep going forward and don't talk about our feelings. All right. This is the Monday episode where we tell you what was trending over the weekend, usually. This is kind of a long weekend, two weeks of weekend. We also let you get to know us a little bit better by telling you some things that we think are overrated, underrated. And let's kick it off with that. Miles, what is something you think is underrated? Underrated
Starting point is 00:05:51 Tiny cans of Sprite Okay I hosted a family thing So I don't usually buy soda But I was like I gotta have soft drinks Yeah it's the season you know Yeah it's the season
Starting point is 00:06:04 You know you got people who drink Get people who are sober Like you gotta have a mix You gotta have it all baby I have little Coca-Cola's Little Sprites little holiday Cranberry spice sprites Or whatever the fuck those are
Starting point is 00:06:16 Yeah But the tiny cans It's the tiny can my god the way i was the tiny can for me it's the tiny can it got me it got me folks however because it wasn't i know i understand there's like this whole thing of like the framing effect and you know like kind of in your mind you're like oh well it's only a seven and a half ounce can so it's like a little can maybe i'll drink nine of them right i didn't do that which is like kind of like the sort of dangerous thing about like with like donut holes too i do that i definitely
Starting point is 00:06:46 do a donut hole. I'm like, I'm like, dude, 15 of these has probably equals like half of one donut. So I've read the whole box. It was like maybe like two. But the can there was something about opening a third can in a row that I was like, yo, bro. It's shamed.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Yeah, like it just, it did something in my mind like, you ain't got to do all this. Sounds like, really? Also, because it's only seven and a half ounces, you go through that shit quick if you're thirsty. Oh, yeah. So like, I remember the guy's shot I was like, Daddy, are you drinking beer?
Starting point is 00:07:18 And that's what I was like, oh, shit. The way you're putting those away, man. Why you put them on a helmet like that? So I got to say, they were, they're fantastic, they're cute. However, luckily, I did not fall victim to the framing or unit bias trick of like these small things. Surely because of the sound of opening it, I was like, you're, you're going three cans and 10 minutes, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Yeah, easy, easy. And I did. You've had enough there. I love the Diet Coke version of those. because they're a nice option if you don't really like want to have a full Diet Coke or two of them equal one of the 20 ounce Diet Coke, which is also, you know, a 20 ounce like one of the plastic bottles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which gives me a good like stopping point. It's actually like 15. That's 15 ounces. They eat seven and a half ounces. So times two,
Starting point is 00:08:07 you got 15 ounces there, baby. So you actually do it. You're healthier than the 20. So you should go and throw another one. Throw a third one on there, bro. Here, can you stop down for a second? Yeah. I'll be right back. A third one. Five of those to drink from over the break. Throw a third one on and you're only two and a half ounces over a 20 ounce. So yeah. Damn.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I was doing that quick maths in my head. Quick maths. Yeah. I thought there were 10 ounces for some reason. Now, seven and a half. All right. Well, from your responsible Sprite and junk food consumption, I'm going the other direction.
Starting point is 00:08:37 My underrated, I got a couple related to, I did a lot of, you know, we weren't home. We were up in Mammoth, doing a little skiing for a little while, and then we were down in Florida to stand with my parents. And so a lot of just eating, standard, whatever the local grocery store had. And, you know, some fast food. And I will say one thing that I discovered that I guess I'm not breaking news. As we joined the recording today, you were like,
Starting point is 00:09:09 you listen to Russian hacker? Crazy Russian hacker? What is this, 2012? And I was. Because I was behind a kid at Shake Shack over the break and he took the, you know the little paper ketchup cups? Yeah, yeah. He took it and just like expanded it out. Like into a plate.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Into like not even a plate, like more like a bowl. Oh, okay. You can get basically double the ketchup, which just makes it's a design feature I had that they've been keeping secret. I did not realize that that was possible. for this. I just didn't. So, yeah, like he was popping the seams, right? Yeah, popping the seams a little bit.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And, like, it expands out so you can, like, keep the integrity of it. Like, it's meant, it's almost like it's meant to do that, which I didn't realize. So, so wait, hold on. Wait, what do you mean you were behind a kid at Shakeshack? What's the context here? Like, at the ketchup pump? At the ketchup pump. Oh, I thought you were just lurking around a Shakeshack.
Starting point is 00:10:08 And you're like, and here's this kid doing stuff. I'm taking my notes. The kid I was following her. out. Hey, hey, what do you do? How'd you learn that? Crazy Russian. Like, you knew some shit. Yeah, but like those things are so small.
Starting point is 00:10:21 You get like three dips, usually. So, I don't know. This really fucking blew my mind. I'm also given an underrated to, from my previously mentioned, like, you know, grocery shopping, toastitos, Doritos, any snack chip with an
Starting point is 00:10:37 Edo. Call me OJ because if it's got an Eto, I'm winning. Hell yeah. The, the food corporation spent loads of money on R&R on the chips and I don't know I think they know what about the because that's a pretty straightforward straightforward but I whatever chemical they're spraying on that shit yeah yeah yeah the job done for me whatever yeah whatever Dow chemicals came up with to to compete with MSG yeah they're like we're not doing that that's for Asians here's our America flavor spray yeah and the the integrity
Starting point is 00:11:13 for when you're dipping into salsa and the salsa. We'll get into the salsa because that's my overrated. But I just I like thinking about what like it's the thing with like cola, ketchup and candy have been
Starting point is 00:11:28 the ones that I've always felt like the best selling brands are usually the best. Like they are hard to beat. Like you get a small batch cola and for me it's never as good as. like fever tree
Starting point is 00:11:43 when I see that fancy shit I'm like get this shit out of here ketchup I've not yet had a catch up that can compete with Heinz 57 and candy like we had some like sour candy over the break that we picked up and it was like
Starting point is 00:11:58 you know some local brand and I was like what are we doing this is fucking like it's like leaving residue in my mouth and shit it's like so I just like to think of that division of like because usually
Starting point is 00:12:11 corporation takes over the making of a food. Like they discover somebody making good food, take over the creation of that and fuck it up so bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, someone was talking, I don't drink anymore, but someone was talking about a beer that they liked, and then it got taken over by a corporation,
Starting point is 00:12:27 and then, like, it was just suddenly bad. Right, sure, sure. That's usually how food works, but there are a handful of things that I just want to give a tip of my cap to giant corporations that are fucking poisoning us. to say. Taking off 2026.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Shout out Doritos. Yeah. Shout out tostitos. But I'm curious, like, do other people agree with that? Is it, do corn chips belong in the Kolo ketchup candy? Do all four, do those three all belong there? It depends. I mean, toast tortilla chips are kind of, like, snack chips.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I think are a little bit different than tortilla chips for me. I mean, I guess toastitos because it's part of that, like, Frito-Lay Empire. Yeah. But, like, have a chip. the local like the stuff that we have in California is good yeah got a little bit of soy sauce on there yeah just a little bit that might blow up my whole theory um habit chips are good they're there in these small containers that
Starting point is 00:13:24 make you the bag is fucked up the bag is the bag is it feels like the small sprite can equivalent of snack chips like it's like are you fucking with me like I'm done with this immediately when I see that I'm about to fight a drug dealer based on how like the bag looks because I'm like, what the fuck? How much is this? The bag is a third of the way full. And you're not even doing the thing
Starting point is 00:13:46 where it's like, it's filled up with a lot of air to keep it from getting crushed. If you put a bag of halve-chips in the wrong way in a grocery bag, that shit is dust. Keep corn chips out of this category. But I am curious to hear from people like
Starting point is 00:13:58 what are their categories of like the things that have just been perfected by the corporations and we're just done, we're done trying other stuff. We're just like, all right, We'll give you this one. Because like potato chips are not this for me. Potato chips, I like some different, you know, small batch potato chip, you know, local potato chips sometimes.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Or corporate is king, basically. I don't think corporate is king for potato chip. No, no, no. You know. Although if you look, though, so many of them just like beer are being bought up. They just get bought up. Yeah. Yeah, that's probably true.
Starting point is 00:14:36 All right. That was my underrated. Shout out to Frito. I guess. I made a billionaire after Mr. Friedholet. What's something you think is overrated? Overrated. Gen Z, Gen Alpha, music conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Okay. This is the problem. When we were doing it, there was no internet. So you could say whatever and it was believable for as long as you needed it to be believable. I recently stumbled upon this conspiracy theory about a rapper named S.D. Kid. And everyone was like, Charlemay. This is actually Timothy
Starting point is 00:15:11 Salome is the theory. Yes, that SD kid is actually Timothy Salome. Like in disguise. Exactly. Because he always wears a shiasty or a bala-cala, as they call it in the UK. And look, I'll give it to them. The eyebrow region is very similar because people are going side by side with like dune picks. They're going side by side when Timothy Salome was on SNL playing that like SoundCloud rapper wearing the shi-stee. And he was only showing a little bit of his face, people were like, this is the exact same eye and bridge of nose brow pattern. Now, if you just go a little bit deeper, right, aside from just using the most
Starting point is 00:15:49 superficial, like, sort of evidence to be like, this is Timothy Shalmay, have you listened to the music at all? Because this rapper is clearly from Liverpool. I'm not like, you know, are you saying he can't do accents? Jack, in a way where I thought I was listening to God damn Bob Dylan when I liked that movie. And nobody can do a Bob Dylan. It's so, Jack, I'm going to, I want to just play you. Okay, hold on. This is this track.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It's called Four Raws. This is like one of the biggest parts. I'm going to just play this one part where he sounds so, the accent is called scouse. They're called scousers out there. This accent is so scouse. I'm like, if, if this is Timothy Chalame, he needs a fucking Academy Award just for this side project. Yeah, that's definitely Timothy Schauchamp. That's, they go.
Starting point is 00:16:39 that's Timothy Shalame I'm like come the fuck on y'all and then but this is the genius part Timothy Shalame then did a remix of this track for Roz with SD Kid and put out a video right before the Christmas break and so that's doing the video
Starting point is 00:16:54 that's what I saw that going viral yeah yeah and they didn't know what it was yeah they're like yo Timothy he's nice I'm like no he's not you guys the bar is subterranean for celebrities rapping let him be a surprisingly knowledgeable
Starting point is 00:17:10 sports fan we don't need to be like and he's also he likes to rap I'll give it to him you know what I mean he likes to rap I encourage that
Starting point is 00:17:17 but like for the there are people who are like dude this is a girl whoa shimuthi rapper it's got to be salome
Starting point is 00:17:24 so I just come on for the people who I get you love the idea of it but there were so I saw so many videos being like
Starting point is 00:17:31 yo you got their Twitter accounts are operating from the same location they found all of these like weird
Starting point is 00:17:38 of like overlapping things but to me it doesn't pass the ear test right timothy salome i heard his accent and that he did an english accent recently in one film was like bro this ain't come right and he's not in a scouse accent no sir no sir no so i do think he has one of those faces back to the just brass tacks of this conspiracy theory i feel like he like they did that lookalike contest in new york city and you could have killed timothy Chalemay and replaced him with 20 of those people and I would have been like, yep, there goes Timothy Chalemay.
Starting point is 00:18:14 You know, like, I just feel like sometimes people have faces that, like, I feel like I see once a day around Los Angeles. And then you made reference to our music conspiracy theories. Can you draw, like, I mean, obviously there was like Tupac still alive. Yeah, I'm talking about stuff like that. Like, easily, like, I remember
Starting point is 00:18:34 like in the Columinaudi album, uh, there was like the, or sorry, Macaveli album. It starts off people that I said, Shugshot Tupac. There's like a part where you thought you heard Shook Shot Tupac. And that was enough for years.
Starting point is 00:18:49 It was enough for me. We lived on that for years. I lived on that up until maybe four weeks ago when I saw the Diddy documentary. And I said, what? Diddy documentary is like, they go hard the other way. They're like, did he got Tupac killed?
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'd heard that. Growing up, but assumed it was a conspiracy. I heard that too. But in my mind, there was there was very clearly a moment where it said chugshot tupac and that was enough that was enough for me um and just other stuff like or even like the chris gains of it all you know when we had when when garth brooks went out as another thing it was it was so clear but enough that you're like oh this is fun um and the other means i guess more just more like the other kinds of conspiracy theories you would hear which are just like salacious celebrity rumors right purely word of mouth that had no way to be vetted in any conceivable way to know like I don't know about Richard gear and a bunch of gerbils
Starting point is 00:19:43 I was just thinking like so many of the ones that I remember are are based on like homophobic just like rumors about male celebrities or Lil Kim there's one impossible amounts of semen in their stomach yeah or did you okay remember the rapper Lil Flip uh huh there was one
Starting point is 00:20:02 that they said Lil Flip had AIDS yeah yeah there was no I think Kyia all ladies pop yo pussy like this they said she had eights. Yeah, there was just like people who were wild, terrible. I mean, I guess ours weren't better because we're just 12 year old boys just being like act like that, she probably got, probably got AIDS. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh, dude's. Yeah, Marilyn Manson having his rib removed to suck his own dick. I think that was, there were a couple of those, right? I feel like Marilyn Manson had that. Yeah, yeah. Rod Stewart had the stomach pump. But then I actually looked. looked into that one and there were like a bunch of different people who had the stomach
Starting point is 00:20:41 pump theory. New kids on the block. There was one of those that ran rampant through my elementary school. Yep. Yep. They found semen in one of their butts from one of the other new kids. This is so crazy. This is what the,
Starting point is 00:20:58 this is the kind of shit they were saying about Kaya that she was murdered after she gave HIV to her husband. Mm-hmm. Come on. This is a bad, bad stuff. actually take it back. Ours are fucking terrible. We're so broken.
Starting point is 00:21:13 There's are better, man. It's better. It's better. Timothy Shalomey is SDK. It's actually Timothy Shalame. Yeah, I don't, we don't need to be lying on us. It's like a more benevolent Paul is dead.
Starting point is 00:21:24 They're not even killing anyone. They're just like that person is. Right of you're straight up destroying people. My apologies. Look, I'm going to sit down. You're doing great, Jen Alpha. All right, my overrated. One, I,
Starting point is 00:21:38 went to see uh avatar you said avatar fire fire in ash go home avatar fire and ash and they started the previews 30 minutes after the start time that was listed on the thing it was just ads for 30 minutes after the so it's a 12 o'clock show the previews start at 1230 yes and just adds the whole time up until then unbelievable this is this is was a regal cinema in Florida. So I don't know if this is what we're headed for, but we talked last year about how there was like some legislation that was being proposed for, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:21 the movie time has to be, has to list when the movie actually starts. Oh, right, right. To like when, you know, give me two movie times. Give me boarding time and, you know, when are doors closed. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:33 We need that shit. Yeah. I think they showed the same. they showed that Jennifer Garner ad where she's like flying all over the world multiple times and yeah just the Tostito Salsa
Starting point is 00:22:47 I gotta say do not lump that in with my Tostino fandom because that shit is that was news to you no but it's also the only salsa like yeah yeah we need more salsa options like every at
Starting point is 00:23:03 at the like Kroger Vaughn you know those type of grocery chains like they that shit the big brand uh salsas are horrendous that's like the one time you could say yo corporate is not king with the salsas the salasas if you recognize the name run as far as you can it's just like tomato paste and onion slivers like that's all you're getting in there it's fucked up it's like ragu before they put the other seasonings in it to make it pasta sauce like hold on don't put that oregano in yet yeah yeah because that's ragu bottle that up
Starting point is 00:23:39 that's to see the salsa that's right it's paste pecante yeah there's and and pretzels I would say also in this category of like you the the big brand pretzels they're not like horrendous like the salas but like you can get some good
Starting point is 00:23:55 get some good local local pretzels like a hollowed out pretzel where it's just like the brown crunchy on the outside you ever have those no yeah they're doing amazing with pretzel technology It's like a tube inside? Yeah, it's like a
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's like a rigatoni But it's like Oh, yeah Just just the crunchy outer And then like a little bit of inner But it's nice All right Highly recommend
Starting point is 00:24:19 All right That's where we're at We're gonna take a quick break And we're gonna come back And we're gonna come back and talk about All the news That's been happening For the past two weeks
Starting point is 00:24:31 We'll be back Hi, I'm Dr. Priyanko Wali. And I'm Hurricane DeVolu. It's a new year. And on the podcast's health stuff, we're resetting the way we talk about our health. Which means being honest about what we know, what we don't know, and how messy it can all be. I like to sleep in late and sleep early.
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Starting point is 00:25:25 Health stuff is about learning, laughing, and feeling a little less alone. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we are back we're back and I guess we got to just like catch up with what Donald Trump was doing over the holidays right like this motherfucker
Starting point is 00:25:50 a busy busy holiday season there is his health there is his yeah we're not even going to get into his health but that appears to be deteriorating um he's got ideas he's got ideas about his own medical care too
Starting point is 00:26:06 long may that last can't tell me how many aspirin to take i'll take take as many aspirin as i want i want my blood thinner than sean paul goatee hair um all right but uh as expected the epstein files i mean not as not on time but that epstein files did drop uh and just bricks and bricks of black ink yeah uh everywhere just yeah so many redactions as expected like yeah like Like the memes everyone was posting was, you know, like everyone predicted were like, you're just going to see big black blocks. And they're going to just say, that's a page of it. And we did.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And images, it was a really fucking one of the wildest rollouts of information. Also because like it was so poorly done. Like, you know, people were just copying and pasting text from these PDF files and they were just highlighting stuff black so you could unhighlight stuff. Was that true? Like that's what the other thing. thing is that I'm still, like, digging myself out from, I feel like there was so much misinformation around it, too. But, like, there's, like, photos that turned out not to be
Starting point is 00:27:18 true. There's a lot of shit. But, yeah, apparently, allegedly, like, you could see, you could just copy. They, they didn't pay for, like, the upgraded Adobe PDF. Yeah. And so it was just, they blacked it out, but you could still copy and paste it. Yeah, no, this is, this is not, this is, this wasn't like misinformation this was straight up buffoonery other people were like damn is this like was this intentional by people to be like yeah it's redacted
Starting point is 00:27:46 but go ahead you might find some dark shit out then there was just like the wild accusations that were just everything they put a picture of Michael Jackson Diana Ross in in there like and implied that it was at Epstein's home and it was
Starting point is 00:28:02 yeah yeah it was like some fundraiser or something it was a fundraiser yeah yeah yeah they were putting well then also like the selective like whoa look at all these pictures that just came out it's all bill clinton huh yeah and people were like what the fuck like it was so transparent that they were trying to just be like and it's all bill clinton guys nope don't even ask about Donald trump and then bill clinton was like release the files yeah then it was like oh fuck all right uh hmm hmm because i think like i think for unredact those files yeah for anyone who is not a republican people are like like, yeah, dude, drag his ass out too. Drag, this is the thing, drag everyone's fucking ass out into the light.
Starting point is 00:28:43 That's the deal here. I mean, so that got Winnie the Pooh in a picture. Yeah, what the fuck was that, man? I mean, it's like dark, but like I think he took one of his victims to Disneyland. And so there's a picture. He was the most photographed,
Starting point is 00:29:01 meticulous in photographing every fucking day of his life. It seems like every time he was with a new person. But yeah, there's a picture of him with Winnie the Pooh, which had to have been fun for Winnie the Pooh's PR team. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah. They had to explain that he was not on the flight logs. But he actually was.
Starting point is 00:29:20 If you look closely, Winnie the Pooh is there with Tiger. Winnie the Poohs. Fucked up, dude. Yeah, just like it's the other things, too, is you really realize it got worse for Trump, too. Like, it wasn't just like, oh, take all this stuff out about Trump. Like this stuff where he's mentioned, you're like, oh, it sounds like Mara Lago was like the nexus. Yeah. Like a lot of, a lot of dark shit was being ran out of Mara Lago.
Starting point is 00:29:44 Not in the files, but Marjorie Taylor Green did say that when she, like, the Epstein files were the big divider between the two of them. The New York Times did a big interview with her. And at one point, Trump shouted that the Epstein files were going to hurt my friends. Oh, my friends. I mean, that's, so that's a direct evidence, if we're taking it or we're this direct evidence of a cover-up by Trump to protect the wealthy sexual predators that run, run the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's supposed to be taking down as part of his, according to his cue disciples. I feel like you've got so much direct evidence.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I know. It's so fucking wild. Just his administration, there's nothing to see here. There's something to see here. there's no there's nothing to go off of to prosecute anyone further maybe there is but it's bill clinton who forget about donald trump oh wait why is this stuff redacted okay we'll just invade venezuela um but there's a lot of dark shit there's one talking about Donald trump and lake michigan and uh it's wild also interlocking arts camp is like a performing arts camp
Starting point is 00:30:58 that like i struggled to get into because i was a really serious trumpet player as a kid Jeffrey Epstein had a whole lodge there at this fucking performing arts camp in fucking Michigan I was just going through casually through some stuff because like different websites would bubble up things based on like what they were sort of interested in or what they covered and when I saw that
Starting point is 00:31:20 I was looking at like local Michigan news and I saw this thing about interlock and I was like Jesus Christ yeah anyway so Roe Kana and Thomas Massey obviously aren't giving up because they they missed the deadline And then they also had a deadline to explain, like, why it was so heavily redacted. That was January 3rd. Like I said, that's when they said, oops, we Venezuela.
Starting point is 00:31:41 Right. But Thomas Massey and Roecona, they said they are going to seek to hold Pam Bondi in contempt of Congress and are also like, we want to see the real shit quote. This is from, I believe Rocahn has said, quote, we want to see the survivors statements to the FBI where they name other rich and powerful men who abused them or who covered up the crimes. And we want to see the draft prosecution memos, which explain why many, many men were involved in the cover up and abuse. That would be bad for my friends. That would be bad for a lot of my buddies. Good buddy. Yeah. Yeah. And then he spent Christmas Eve talking to children
Starting point is 00:32:19 on the phone, Donald Trump, which was like, so fucked up. Yeah. So weird. informing them that the government tracks Santa in order to ensure that he hasn't been infiltrated. That was a weird moment. He also asked this kid what they wanted, and he wanted a Kindle, and he's like, good, we need high IQ. And what do you want from Santa? How are you? Well, he's on the phone in the corner. Well, that's a hard one.
Starting point is 00:32:50 For me, I probably most want it to say. Today, Julia. Spin it out. Kindle. That's pretty good. You must be a high IQ person. We need more high IQ people in the country. So we definitely need more high IQ. Just this slow push into Melania completely turned away on, I don't know if that's a call or she's pretending to be on a call.
Starting point is 00:33:22 She's on a call over there being like, why should I give a fuck about? Christmas. Yeah, fuck them is what I say. Yeah, it was such an odd thing. Just like, it's bad to put Donald Trump in this state in like long, uncut video segments. Yeah. Or you're truly just like, oh boy, you're just, what is that? Oh, yeah, I want to make sure that he's not infiltrated, that we're not infiltrating into our country, a bad Santa.
Starting point is 00:33:49 But we found out that Santa is good. Santa loves you. Santa loves Oklahoma like I do. What? Yeah. Yeah, Brian the editor makes it a good point. It's just a bad look to have Trump talking to children generally, given everything that's happening. Well, I think they were trying to steer it, like, be like, this guy, he's no creditor.
Starting point is 00:34:06 They're like steering into the, what's her name argument, the Megan Kelly argument where she's like, these are children. Now, the people that he's in those pictures with are hot teens. Those are just hot teens, guys. What? Please. Lady, what are you fucking talking about? And then New Year's hosted Benjamin Netanyahu at Mar-A-Lago
Starting point is 00:34:30 for a New Year's Eve party that featured both Vanilla Ice and Michelangelo from the Ninja Turtles. Did you see there's one, there's like a joke GOP account that's just like, it tweets as if it's like a conservative, but it's a great one where they had a photo
Starting point is 00:34:48 of Vanilla Ice on stage with Michelangelo and it said, there's nothing better than watching the godfather of Rap, Vanilla Ice Cube, ringing the New Year at Mar-a-Lago with one of the actual Ninja Turtle Men. Fucking Ninja Turtle Men. But it had all the hits.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Giuliani, my pillow, CEO, Mike Lendell, Janine Piro, the fact that Netanyahu's there like party ended up. Stephen Miller, Christy Knoam. It's, I mean, it just shows how, just the
Starting point is 00:35:22 utter lack of acknowledgement of just law and order too of just being like yeah man we've got we fucking roll up the red carpet for this war criminal and he kicks it with me another war criminal and we just act like who go and check us boo we're watching the ninja turtle man breakdance to ice ice baby that's it's like it's in there's a an account that i've made reference to that's like future adam curtis b-roll like the guy who made uh hyper normalization and uh those things and, like, has a very good eye for just, like, weird, dystopic moments from our past. But it's just, like, our entire reality is just become that.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It's just everywhere you look, you can't avoid fucking vanilla ice and Michael Angelo on stage as Benjamin Netanyahu, like, fails to dance in the audience. And so, as you mentioned, on the eve of the DOJ's deadline to explain its redactions in the Epstein files, Trump and the CIA invaded Venezuela, captured Maduro and his wife let him wear a Nike tech jumpsuit the sweatsuits that looked pretty cool and allegedly immediately sold out and charged them with
Starting point is 00:36:34 weapon and drug offenses in New York and he's now claiming the U.S. will now run the country while giving American oil companies the greenlight to move in and like he has basically at a press conference been like if we did it for the oil what he's talking about? Straight up there was no
Starting point is 00:36:50 yeah they got a lot of oil there And it's unfair what happened. That could have been ours. That's ours now. They will run the country. Uh-huh. That usually works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I mean, it sounds like the, you know, the now the vice president, who is now president of Venezuela, is like, no. Right. We are not going to be a colony. And he was saying Trump's response to that was that she should get in line or something bad might happened to her, maybe even worse than Maduro. Yeah. Jesus Christ. And he's also been like, we're going to do this again and again. Literally, I think he said, who can stop us. We have to do it again. We can do it again, too. Nobody can stop us was what he said to Fox News. Yeah. Again, just like no more. Yeah, I remember
Starting point is 00:37:42 like I studied in Ireland for a semester and took an international relations course. And it was like, oh, oh, we're the, like one of the videos they showed us was the Panama invasion, like a documentary
Starting point is 00:37:56 about the Panama invasion that, you know, we're hearing a lot about because that was the last time that we openly invaded a country in the region. Right. And that time it was also like
Starting point is 00:38:07 about covering up like a narrative. Poppy Bush, George W. Bush's dad was the president. Like, people were like, he's a weakling.
Starting point is 00:38:17 He's a sissy. And so, the former head of the CIA and as the CIA does they went in but it's just like that back then it was like sort of an undercover thing and it will get out on social
Starting point is 00:38:34 like we'll see footage of what this attack looked like from the ground they killed 40 people including civilians like an 80 year old woman I will just say that I listened to the New York Times his podcast about this the daily and they really
Starting point is 00:38:52 went hard. Went hard against the empire. They're very much freed it like they're getting the TikTok like it's like listening to an episode of action boys like John Gabris's action movie podcast. So Gabris is hosting? No because
Starting point is 00:39:07 they're just like so into the details of like yeah they're like you know how the CIA had Maduro wired. Basically they they like infiltrated his inner circle and like knew where he was going to be at all times and then you know
Starting point is 00:39:23 the helicopter didn't kill 40 people including civilians they returned fire on those civilians oh sure very much this is the like capture of Osama bin Laden style of being like and then they had to do this and then they built a replica home of the home they were going to invade right right right
Starting point is 00:39:41 they rehearsed this so precision so much precision guys. But yeah, I think that's a way for them to avoid talking about the fact that it's like clearly a war crime. Clearly a war crime, clearly illegal, you don't, you didn't use,
Starting point is 00:39:58 Congress, hello, hello, but again, this is the hello administration where they're like, what the fuck is or what is anything. Yeah, it's, I mean, like the propaganda you already see from like just American media, like you really
Starting point is 00:40:15 see how fully, fully captured American media is too where like they're just they're pushing a lot of they're like Venezuelans rejoice stuff yeah like well some might not be they'll put these very selective videos some people are like in America you're like hello
Starting point is 00:40:30 what are okay sure try and present this image as if but I think to me it's such classic empire and decline shit we're doing I just hate how history is so fucking spot on from time immemorial
Starting point is 00:40:46 every fucking empire and decline does this last gasp shit of micromilitarism not full-blown wars just little violent treats you can have as a as a fading empire as you try to convince yourself you're not in your own death throws which the american empire clearly is Spain did this in the 19th century england france fucking everybody does this shit when the empire is cooked and it sends you further into ruin your more resources go to to fight wars that are meaningless, that only come back in the form of further degradation of your population in your country, as we're seeing now. We are completely not supporting human life in the United States, and we're only supporting more military industrial complex nonsense or the fucking fossil
Starting point is 00:41:33 fuel industry and things like that. So, you know, we're going to waste dollars in lives to help some senile asshole and his band of flunkies feel like they are big and powerful. They are cowards hiding behind the absurd contradiction that is American power, which is on one hand you act like you are the leader of the fucking free world and stand for the oppressed while just being the actual oppressor and then being hyperselective when defining what a quote evil regime is or what quote mass atrocities are or what quote weapons of mass destruction is. So yeah, I don't know. I mean like it's just yeah. And this is in the context of like decades, almost century of the CIA, you know, being a major force of, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:18 narco-terrorism in these countries, you know, funding it, being behind it and essentially, like, causing the problems that they then go in and blow people up to solve allegedly. Yeah. It's like, it's the Homer quote about beer is what America is. The cause of and solution to all of life's problems is how they look at it. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:42 I mean, like, Joe open up a history book and see what Empires and Decline do because we're playing it right to the script, you know, right down to the minute. Just like reading about, did you read that article about Rubio's background with the CIA?
Starting point is 00:42:57 No. Well, I'll dig into it on a future episode, but it's just like reading about the CIA's history of like covert actions everywhere of the world is just like, oh, man, all these conspiracies are true.
Starting point is 00:43:11 it's so bad. Yeah, and the CIA is like the police, bro. They have the worst record of regime change. Look at every fucking like right wing overthrow that the CIA is back. It's like, and? Yeah, how'd that work out? Help the people? No, it helped.
Starting point is 00:43:25 It was very specific. But that's definitely not what it's about it. Yeah, of course not. Of course that. Usually it's secretly about, you know, getting access to the resources, bananas, fruit, drugs, and, you know, controlling those. for the U.S., but in this case, it's openly about that, so that's happening.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah, and I mean, God, it's like, it's truly like, I mean, nothing can stop us. We're all the way up because the U.N. Security Council, where maybe there could be some kind of repercussions being doled out, the U.S. can just be like, on us? Yeah, yeah, the U.S. gets to veto any repercussions. So, like, it's tough. And I think, and this is now, I mean, I think this is now, you look at the Other countries, like, especially after the shit he's saying, like, maybe Mexico, maybe Colombia, all these people are like, and do what? Right.
Starting point is 00:44:19 Like, none of these countries are cowering. These people, these, they have a very clear idea of like what American meddling looks like. And no one's being like, oh, yes, you guys are so, they're just like, excuse, what the, what the fuck are you saying? You're going to come up in here now? No. And they might fuck around and get themselves into an actual war, you know, like, the U.S. Will. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, this is just all we have, the economy is fading and you have the Epstein files. You have so many real things to really handle here. And they're just going with a time on or distraction of some kind of stupid military crusade. Yeah. He's now flat out saying he needs Greenland and Stephen Miller's wife tweeted out a photo of Greenland covered with the American flag. So we'll see. I mean, this is just going to, bro, this is just going to. The fucking nuclear arms race is probably just going to kick right back up now.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Because if it's back to, they're like, these motherfuckers might just pull up on you. They're going to be like, you know, North Korea, they managed to keep, they kept that bang on them. They did. Countries at bay, you know. Seems bad. Seems like we're heading into a very dangerous time of unrest and war. And we're the bad guys. Always have been, baby.
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Starting point is 00:46:57 Yeah. But we were hibernating. Oh, dude. RIP to make... MTV. MTV? Well, not like the regular MTV channel that doesn't play music videos anymore. the one that was their 24-hour music video channel went off the air and the sign-off for the 24-hour music video channel, the last video they played, video killed the radio star.
Starting point is 00:47:19 So they bookended the entire birth and death of 24-hour music television channel with that music video. Was that what they opened with? Yeah, yeah, that was the first music video played on MTV. Damn, called their shot on that one. Yeah, yeah. So my millennial heart felt a small pain just because like MTV is such if that was really when we had monoculture like at its height and you're like I don't know what's MTV saying because that's like we're the that's where the that's where the youth is fucking saying stuff about what's going on. What's tab with the sorens take? Yeah. But anyway, the regular channel remains but 24 hour music video channel it's goodbye. Goodbye. What were they playing for like had you watched it? What was the last time you watched the 24 hour music channel? Oh, maybe randomly when I had cable and I go, what?
Starting point is 00:48:07 I'm just curious, like, what that last 24 hours looked like. It's just all music videos. Yeah, the whole time. Yeah, I don't know. It's, because it also had. You still make music videos, I guess, for YouTube.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Yeah, yeah. And, but also, like, it's stuff so, you know, it's for like the TikTok generation. It's just like, it's not the kind of stuff that's made for broadcast television. It's not made to be consumed on TV anymore. Yeah. But we'll miss you on TV.
Starting point is 00:48:31 Was once cool. Shout out yo MTV Raps. That was like one of the reliable places for somebody in the Midwest to like find out about cool rap music. Yeah. Oh, is that? You were like, please, yo MTV Raps. Let me know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I need Ed Lover and the other Dr. Dre to help me with know what's going on. All right. We also have an update on Drake. Drake? Drake. In a lawsuit, those filed over the break. he was accused of taking part in an illegal gambling operation. So Stake,
Starting point is 00:49:07 that company that he gets paid like $100 million a year? Something obscene. Yeah, something obscene. And yet still managed to like be mad at them for like freezing his accounts. Well, because he is a degenerate gambler. He is at gambling. Yeah. He's blown through 100 mil a year.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But the other issue is that steak via a bunch of like loopholes that sound like, they were made up by me and not somebody with like an understanding of law was trying to operate in states where online gambling is illegal like I think Virginia is one where you're like not allowed to do online gambling they're like well you're not because you're actually gambling with stakes bucks that are then redeemable for real money yeah which have a one-to-one value to US dollar but the very interesting part of the RICO is that it goes on to say that he specifically used his money that he gained from this illegal gambling
Starting point is 00:50:03 operation to fund bot farms that inflated his listening numbers artificially and illegally making, like they kind of ether him in the thing. They say that wholly unregulated money transmitter the lawsuit ads financed
Starting point is 00:50:18 another defendant's promotion of stake as well as a campaign to artificially boost Drake streams and quote fabricate popularity disparage competitors and music label executives distort recommendation algorithms. The scheme the lawsuit alleges is carried out on platforms such as Spotify and, quote, has suppressed authentic artists and narrowed consumers access to legitimate content.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Wow. That's crazy. What was you, didn't you have a lawsuit, Drake? Didn't he? Weren't you accusing somebody of bot farms and stuff and how inflating numbers and wasn't that Kendrick Lamar? There's just a certain type of cycle. who like can't see the world any other way than how it appears to him right you know and so if he's
Starting point is 00:51:04 taken advantage of like bot farming everyone else must be is his theory of the case um but yeah that was that was so funny when he tried to claim kendrick was bot farming that's how not like us so big where like not like us was the most omnipresent song i think of my life like i don't think i've ever heard a song just more uniformly popular play by everyone everywhere coming out of like every third car that I passed. It didn't even matter the context. It was like, it's the hottest song.
Starting point is 00:51:37 I remember being at a funeral and I didn't say a eulogy and they're like, do you want to come out to not like us when you speak? I was like, I don't know if that's a, but they're like, okay. People love it though. People just love it.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Do you want to quote it? You want us to? You're called. We'll have it ready. Just give us a signal and we'll go. Must it on the beat. Oh, and then you can do your thing, sir.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Do your thing. That's just so wild. Just the idea that, just the idea that, all of this is wrapped up into Drake's, that potentially this is like Drake's sort of his whole operation. It's like this gambling thing plus bot farming. That's the thing about these algorithms, man. Like, just as easily as like they can bubble things up to you,
Starting point is 00:52:12 they clearly can be manipulated by just flooding the fucking zone. Flood the zone with shit. Yeah, bro. Yeah. Anyway, I also feel the fact that the lawsuit went as hard as they did. Like, I just feel like he's like the easiest person to, rhetorically beat the shit out of the world. Like everybody's just like
Starting point is 00:52:32 gets a lick in as quickly as they can whenever they get a swing. Like fuck you. That would be so wild if that this was true and he was really padding the numbers that much. I mean, I'm curious what
Starting point is 00:52:48 always. So here's here's the things that lead me to believe. He was always like everywhere in those like Spotify algorithms. You know, I pay attention to those top hundred streaming charts on like Apple Music
Starting point is 00:53:02 and Spotify for this show just to get a sense of like what people are listening to he's always like overrepresented there in a way that I was like
Starting point is 00:53:11 god damn man people really fuck with Drake but he also like changed how he made like he started releasing albums with like 30 songs on it because he knew
Starting point is 00:53:24 that that actually would inflate and like help like so he's already changing the integrity of his artistic output in order to game the system. Yeah, to be fair, I'd say to be fair, the labels are also, they understand that game too. But he definitely, to your point, he's definitely like, he's not an artist first. He's like a business person first.
Starting point is 00:53:50 So in that sense, he's like, I don't want to write lyrics. I'll have somebody else write them. I get to perform them. And then also, if there's a way to get to game my. game the system for my albums, I guess I'll do that. But that just became a, that just sort of became so widespread at that point. But maybe he was the, the God emcee of all of that. It's just a, I mean, I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Like, I think, I wonder if maybe that's why not like us blew up so much too is sort of this sort of built in exhaustion from an ever omnipresent Drake. Yeah. And then someone was like, man, just like sort of piercing that bubble. And people are like, yeah, fuck. Yeah, fuck. Great. Get this shit out of here. Because I think most of the engine.
Starting point is 00:54:28 for the popularity of not like us was the distaste for Drake. It wasn't really because Kendrick Lamar. I mean, he became like diametrically opposed and people selected Kendrick Lamar. I'm like, oh, actually fuck with this guy. But it was also because it like, it gave you a reason like, man, I'm fucking done with Drake. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a really good point that like by artificially like putting him in front of us when like he didn't, it wasn't necessarily driven by interest. he built up this bubble of people
Starting point is 00:54:58 who were just ready to be like yeah for it to pop on Not Like Us And finally something that happened On New Year's Day Betty Boop Nancy Drew Blondy
Starting point is 00:55:10 Not the not the album But the old ass cartoon Enter the public domain Welcome to the public domain y'all Get ready for some weird ass movies Just like we did What was that? Winnie the Pooh
Starting point is 00:55:23 Winnie the Pooh We've done Steamboat Willie, the Mickey Mickey Mouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody's like Mickey Mouse is already in the public domain. It's like that first drawing
Starting point is 00:55:35 where he doesn't really look like Mickey the Mouse, Mickey the Mouse, as I call him. And one of the original Mickey the Mice is here tonight, folks, with the Turtle Men. But they're doing their thing and have already Green Little Low Budget horror movie
Starting point is 00:55:49 about Betty Boop that looks... Yeah, I mean, it's just the same shit. It's like a killer in a Betty Boop mask. Yeah. Stalking people, which... And it'll probably do great.
Starting point is 00:56:00 Yeah, those other ones did pretty well. You make it for $60,000. You make a million guys. It's right there. It's right there. I mean, it's not really transgressive to, like, have a... Like, Winnie the Pooh is a kid's character. Mickey Mouse is, like, one of the most famous kids' characters.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Betty Boop was, like, a sex symbol for people at a time when they didn't have anything to jerk off to and they're like yo wait to jack off to cartoons have you heard that one chick go boop boop badoo oh this shit bro yeah
Starting point is 00:56:39 yeah it's right also for people who like really big heads yeah yeah oh yeah oh yeah she's using both hemispheres fam also entering the public domain
Starting point is 00:56:51 we got three iconic detective Sam spade from the Maltese Falcons Nancy Drew for Nancy Drew books and Agatha Christie's first Miss Marple novels which Agatha Christie
Starting point is 00:57:06 a bit of a blind spot for me The kids have been dying for the first Miss Marple To go to the public domain You get that Sam Spade shit out here man Oh Sam Spade is the fucking public domain Okay my new rapper name bro My first album
Starting point is 00:57:21 Maltese Falcon dropping soon Speaking of shit the kids are clamoring for also as I lay dying at William Faulkner so get ready so far no one's announced a new movie about horny camp counselors being hacked to death
Starting point is 00:57:37 by a bunch of impoverished southerners created by William Faulkner not yet not yet it's common all right those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday January 5th we are back tomorrow morning
Starting point is 00:57:53 with the whole last episode of the show So we'll be back next week with another ICONS episode. Yeah, yeah. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get your vaccines while you still can. Your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to you all tomorrow.
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