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Episode Date: September 24, 2025

In episode 1936, Jack and Miles are joined by host of HeidiWorld: The Heidi Fleiss Story and the upcoming podcast JennaWorld, Molly Lambert, to discuss… We Are One Vote Away From Congressional Action On The EPSTEIN FILES, Ezra Klein Should Actually Just Shut Up And Stop Talking, Disney Decides To Bring Back Jimmy Kimmel Now That Everybody Hates Them, Okay... Maybe Flying Cars Are A Bad Idea and more! We Are One Vote Away From Congressional Action On The EPSTEIN FILES Ezra Klein Should Actually Just Shut Up And Stop Talking Disney Decides To Bring Back Jimmy Kimmel Now That Everybody Hates Them Did Jimmy Kimmel Really Cost Disney $3.87B? We Ran the Numbers—And the Internet's Claim Falls Apart 400 Celebs Sign Open Letter Backing Jimmy Kimmel, Including Tom Hanks, Meryl Streep, Jennifer Aniston Jimmy Kimmel’s Cancellation Is Somehow Being Felt in a Galaxy Far, Far Away as Disney Reportedly Delays 'Star Wars' Trailer FCC Chairman Says His “Easy Way Or The Hard Way” Comment About Jimmy Kimmel Wasn’t Meant As A Threat To Pull Licenses If ABC Didn’t Fire Him Flying cars crash into each other mid-air in China 11 Years Later, Elon Musk Is Floating the Flying Car Scam Again Elon Musk says the Tesla Roadster is still delayed with no release in sight—but now he’s talking about making Peter Thiel’s flying car a reality The Biggest Problem With Flying Cars Is on the Ground How the FAA Is Keeping Flying Cars in Science Fiction Flying cars straight out of ‘The Jetsons’ are finally a reality — and several people own them now The Flying Car Is Finally Here. It’s Slightly Illegal. How the inventors of a new generation of aircraft are outsmarting the feds. Flying cars have arrived. Here’s how people feel about them. Flying cars and supersonic flights? Trump turns on boosters for new-age tech Dude, where’s my (flying) car? Trump Clears the Way for a Dystopian Air Taxi Future Trump Administration Seeks Pilot Projects for Air Taxis LISTEN: The Carneddau by Orions BelteSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We don't have a phrase for that, you know, like, because you know when someone's talking about, like, or they say they got good chat, like, they got good mouth, like, they got good talking skills. We don't even have a, like, I feel like we're, we don't even enjoy people's conversations enough to have, like, yeah. I think the closest I've heard is like, they bro down easy, dude. He bros down super easy. Yeah, riszed up, wrist up.

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This is a production of iHeartRadio, this podcast where we take a deep dive into American Share Consciousness, and it's Wednesday, September 24th, 2025. Day after the Rapture. Hey, we're still here, y'all. You know what I mean? Yeah. Rap Mastards survived the Rapture. World Dense Breast Day, National Cherry's Jubilee Day, National Punctuation Day.

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Bruce Buffer is going to come after you. Dude, I always think about how the lesser buffer had to just come up with his own shitty thing. It's time. It's time. Bruce. Go away. I mean, just like, just so little, I don't know, like, it's time is, that kind of sucks. What was the workshopping like?

Because, I mean, obviously his brother. From let's get ready to rumble, fucking artwork. Yeah, like poetry to it's time. Hedder gut! I don't know about that one, Bruce. It's time is, like, I guess it is a little bit foreboding. But, man, it just doesn't have like the whole, you can't really. Let's get ready to a limbo.

Like it has a whole thing. And you just go, it's time. All right, Bruce. Like fun dad and then just like real mean, crabby-ass dad. Yeah. It's time. Let's go. Like Bruce Buffers, like the stepdad to Michael Buffer's biological days.

Like, hey, I can have a good time too. Your dad is like, watch this. It's time. See kids? And they're like, fuck. It's time. Bruce. Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in here.

Third seats by one of our favorite guests, a brilliant writer, podcaster, producer who's written for publications like The New York Times, The New Yorker Valley Ledge, the absolute Ledge, great article in the New York Times about her and her upcoming show. She's a producer on Everybody's Live with John Mulaney, was the co-host of the legendary podcast Girls and Hoodies and Night Call, the writer-creator and host. of Heidi World, the Heidi Flay story and soon Jenna World about Jenna Jameson's rise the New York Times, recent New York Times article, was about that upcoming podcast and also

Molly Lambert's rise. Please welcome back to the show. Molly Lambert! Hello, hello, hello. It's time. It's time. I feel like Molly, let's get ready to Lambert. Oh. I was going to do, let's get ready to rapture.

Hell, yeah. How are you feeling about the rapture? Pretty good. I mean, now would be a great time, I think, for a reset. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just drop some dead weight, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. See where it goes.

See where the chips land. Oh, and happy belated Rosh Hashanah to everyone. Happy New Year. Yeah, Shana Tova. I was thinking about that, piece that they covered you in for the Jenna World thing and how you went to the old vivid offices like off Coanga across from the Nissan dealership that is now dead in a skeleton graveyard. And I was just thinking of like how often I would go to that bar next to Hollywood

dive thing. The weird, that building was so fucking weird where Vivid Video used to be housed in. That whole area, it's like the liminal zone of Universal City. And it used to be that you'd see the vivid entertainment sign. And that was like the sign you were entered. the valley and now when you heard with that I was like yep that feels right now it's the minion the universal excuse me yeah I know which also feels right yeah we've changed the age of the guard you see the minion like you're like driving you know out of the valley or into the valley it's just like do your kids respond to the minion jack do they have they have you taken them to witness they've never been really I mean they love minions but they've never been so impressed

I think I think maybe once they saw it and they were like oh yeah a minion but it's quickly become background noise because anytime you're driving on the 101, like, it's just up there. Do you think the minions are mad about Labuboos? No, because... Like, mad about the way that I'm just mad about Saffron? Yeah, like, the boobos are taking their spot.

Oh, oh, angry. Yeah, yeah, jealous. Maybe... I mean, the... I would say, like, putting those two things together that really highlights the strengths of the, of the minion over labubu being you know labubu don't have doesn't have personality people are talking about how the there are people looking at the markets and being like I don't know man the pop mart stock is going up and down what does this mean is labubu demand waning it's like yeah there's gonna it's gonna crash

it's gonna crash you know what I mean look that's what I learned this in need a non-belie babies a non-believer would say exactly I would say I would say the same sentence I would say the same sentence with just different emphasis. You can have so many. Well, I'm so happy for you guys because you'll be able to have all the lububoos you want once I get to go to heaven and you're left behind. We're sitting back here. When Jack and I are living on the trash island of Labibu's.

Trash Island with all the Labuboos of all the people got raptured. That would be funny if like it turns out the criteria for rapture is just who have most lububoos. What can I say? I'm a ban. Sorry, man. It was me, Pizzou, the whole time. Anyways, it's a great profile, some awesome pictures of the valley, a really good encapsulation of the Molly Lambert experience.

Thank you so much for still coming on our podcast after having an amazing New York Times profile written about you. You know, I like to keep in touch with the little people. That's right. Keep you honest. All right, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today we're going to talk about the Epstein files whether congress about to release those we're going to do a quick checking with Ezra Klein a little intervention with our buddy Ezra Klein yeah who can't stop being wrong about everything we're going to talk about the right wing doxing app that leaked we'll talk about Disney deciding to bring back Kimmel now that everybody hates them and And maybe we'll even talk about some flying cars and why they might not be as good of an idea as we all thought. All of that, plenty more. But first, Molly Lambert, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I was looking up different kinds of yams.

Mm. And? Okay. I just wanted to know the difference between all the sweet potatoes because I got this good sweet potato that looked like a regular potato. and I was like, wow, I didn't even know that was possible. What did you learn? What don't I know between everything, all the different sweet potatoes out there? They also pulled out the sweet potato at the farmer's market that was so gigantic,

and they were like, yeah, if you don't pull them out, they just keep growing. Oh, my God. Like, well, how big was this thing? Like pretty big. Like a human leg? Like bigger than I'd ever seen a sweet potato bee. And they were just like, yep, the first ones of the year, they get gigantic. And you got to pull them out, or they just never.

never stop. And I was kind of like, wow. Now I'm like, big sweet potato. I'm like, keep going. Yeah, I'm like, keep going. Keep going. The heavy of sweet potato was 81 pounds. That's the record. God damn.

Yeah, I just didn't know. They just keep going. Wow. Okay. I like that. I thought that was neat. I like that logic because as someone who got into like having back at my pre my house that burned down, I had like a little vegetable bed.

and in my mind who doing it for the first time like yeah they get bigger if you leave them in there right and they're like no then they start fucking up and turning into a whole other plant completely I'm like ah shit all right that's where I fucked up by not picking the fruit from it I just like the idea that it's like no you can just

it gets bigger the longer you leave it there yeah they're animal I'm trying to remember I think lobsters are also like that they just never stop growing so like if you eat a really big lobster you just ate like something that's around for like hundreds of years I think no yeah yeah I believe hundreds of years

yeah lobsters can live over a hundred years I believe please look it up wow got a know lobster lifespan can be can live for over 100 years apparently yeah with non with human intervention but hundred of years is what I said and anybody who says that I didn't say that is fucking wow Jack consider the lobster O'Brien 120 to 140 years of age 100 Methuselah lobster Methuselah ass lobster

been around since fucking Melville Does that make you want to eat it Like knowing that Like eating your elders Really sad and like it's true of a lot of fish too Like the fish Just like if you catch a big fish You're like yeah

It's like this thing is I mean like A library is burning when you catch that fish. I mean, I famously eat two lobsters a day. People know this about me because I'm bawling. Now when I go look at the tank, I'm going to ask them their age now. Yeah.

You just take a bite and then give it away. You don't even like them. You call them sea bugs. I call them cigarettes. Yeah. Because I just take one quick drag, toss it. Fish and lobsters out of the L.A. River. They've got, what do you eat?

They've got crawdads there, which is crazy. seen, yeah, I saw someone point that out once and I was like, you are brave. They didn't eat them, did they? I don't know. I don't know. The person who told me about it was not talking about an eating context, but I know, I mean, shit, do what you got to do. Yeah, there are like all sorts of just gnarly ass little thing.

Like in the, we go to the tide pools every once in a while up in Malibu, and you just dig through the sand there and these little like sand crabs that truly, they're so cool. Like, if you just pulled one out and we're like, this is an alien, I would be like, yep, that's a fucking wild. Kill that thing now. Yeah, it's just in clumps of sand. They're just, like, everywhere. Yeah, they're probably thinking the same thing about you. Yeah, look at this asshole.

If they could, they would. That's why I'm so ruthless, Molly. Yeah, imagine if it grew, it got really big. I know. Sometimes I think about that, like, how lucky we are that we, I mean, we probably, it's not luck it's a necessary well it's a necessary like it the reason that our species is thriving is because we are in this random period where there aren't giants roaming the earth that would just like eat us at will you know what i mean like like there used to be giant birds of prey

that would just like that had the wingspan of like a private plane you're talking about dinosaurs Yeah. Oh, you've heard of them. What is something, Molly, that you think is underrated? Well, just to continue with the theme, I think the stuff that lives in the ocean, pretty underrated. Having a fun time all day, we don't even know about it. I know. So jealous. Under the sea.

Overrated life on land. We think God is so good up here on land. Yeah. I don't know. Walking around on what do you call him again? I mean, it is true. The only time we've gotten just even a glimpse. Sorry.

No one, I lob that shit up. God damn, I'd lob it to myself off the glass. The one time we've got even a small glimpse of how much fun they're having down there is the under the sea song. Yeah. Yeah. And that fucks me up when flounder wasn't a flounder. Like I remember. I know, because I was like, I remember seeing.

a flounder for the first time and being like, that's not like the blue and yellow thing. This is a fucked up, flat ass piece of shit. Flounder looked like there's something absolutely wrong with them. I went to I went to Catalina last week

for my birthday and... Hey, happy birthday. It was just like under the sea. It was, we went snorkeling. Yeah. Great snorkeling. It was like, wow, there's a whole world down here. They're having so much fun. Nothing to do with us. They don't know about any of the dumb bullshit we have to know about.

They don't have Reddit down here. Were you like with your scoop, with your snorgo, like, Are there any expecting mothers down here? Do not take Tylenol. Who's just the president just told us? It could be bad. Okay. News, guys.

Wait, what is I always see on TikTok people like romanticizing Catalina. The last time I went was 1997 the week the Mace Harlem World album came out. That's why you were there, right? No, because I remember the second I got back from our field trip, I begged my mom to take me to blockbuster music to buy it. And then I bought that and the firm album that had, I'm talking firm based on you, babe. Anyway, people were like, it's like the Mediterranean,

the one on Ventura and Lower Kenny. Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Come on, Molly. Come on now. Come on now. But that, the, like, the way they sell it on TikTok is like, this is the Amalfi Coast in Catalina or in California. and I'm like, I don't remember it.

Like, I mean, I know there's, it has its own vibe, but does it feel European to you? I mean, it feels coastal. Yeah, it's fucking nice. Okay, great. Well, then shit. It's just little. There's, but there's a whole other side where you can do camping and stuff. Yes, you have bison.

I mean, Miles, when you went there, how many times did you dunk your head in the water and see what was going on under the sea? A lot because it was like our field trip to go to like the Catalina Marine Institute. and so every day we're like snorkeling yeah sorry so you were snorkeling every fucking day no like two days and then we then we learned about fish

like on the third day and then pet a bison and then went home and then this one did choose sounds incredible sounds like a dream you were just like oh gotta get back to blockbuster music where you're fucking blockbuster music when you're 12 when you're what 12 years 13 years old bro you I had no sense of

appreciating nature. I was like, the fucking Mace album just came out, Mom. And what's funny, I have, my friend gave me a picture

from that field trip where there was a talent show and me and my friend wore garbage bags and pretended like we were Mace and Puffy. Wow. Which one were you? I was Mace,

obviously. I'm a man of God. Darling, it's better. Upware Mace Betta. That's where, wasn't that his name? Upware Mace Betha.

Mesa. There it is. Darling, it's Beth. Upware maize betha Take it from me Take it from me, man That was also a loki representation, Sebastian

Because I was like, he's black Yeah man is black That crab That crab is black On precautions too Oh yeah Just playing the steel drums I'm surprised

You have red locks A little problematic Do we know who voiced Sebastian? Kevin Klein All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll be right back. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We're back. All right. So we do like to every once in a while check in with the Epstein files for some reason we're fucking weird like that but yeah this thing that is got a screw loose the thing that

is most interesting to the people in america about this administration that keeps getting like you know falling off the radar i would say yeah uh is still you know people want to see who is in these documents people are curious about why the president all of a sudden started acting weird it's a hope you're being weird man i never had the pleasure of going to the island he's a liar and also maybe he didn't do anything wrong he might be a patriot to go from being like yeah and we're gonna we're gonna reveal it and show you all the all the creepos in there to like the day later being like this is a big non story i don't know why you guys are being so weird everybody shut the fuck up and stop asking oh you're still on about this epstein guy he died you're

not maga remember that thing when he was like well if you want them then maybe you're not maga you're like, well, you look guilty as for good God, man, very straight. But, yeah, it is, it is important to remember that members of the House are still trying to get that discharge petition signed in order to get the Epstein files to the public. So Thomas Massey, Republican, Roecona, Democrat are now one vote away from being able to force a House vote on the files. And that's despite all the delaying tactics from masturbation enthusiast, Mike Johnson, uh, the House Speaker.

But they are like, they are, like, they are. truly on the precipice of getting the putting this to a floor vote and when we say masturbation enthusiasts just to uh because the i think it is important to make a distinction oh not of the geoffrey tube in variety he's not yeah so he's not jeffrey tube did we talk about tubing on yesterday's trends yeah yeah holly do you remember when geoffrey tubing came back on CNN for the first time after uh being fired for jacking off on a conference call yeah how could i forget and he was like so cheerful and was just like she was like and so do we have this correct you were jacking your shit in front of everybody that you work with Dana you've got that 100% correct

he was like we want to I was in the wrong window or whatever just one more because we were juxtaposing that with how Kamala Harris we was it was like pulling teeth to get her to say she endorses or endorse so wrong that was crazy Yeah. Sure. Yeah, I support the Democrats. Sure. Sure. Whatever. I guess he's a Democrat, I guess. Yeah. Meanwhile, this guy comes on national television to talk about jacking off in front of his co-workers and was like just enthusiastic and like kind of smooth with it. One more time. In October, you were on a Zoom call with your colleagues from the New Yorker magazine. Everyone took a break for several minutes during which. time you were caught masturbating on camera. You were subsequently fired from that job after 27 years of working there.

And you since then have been on leave from CNN. Do I have all that right? You got it all right. Sad to say. Okay. You got it all right. He even did a little shoole-ish charge. Shoulder shimmy.

He was like, that's right, lady. Yeah, yeah. You got it all right. Do you suppose that with... Ginesis and agitation about the prospect that he's going to win. Look, as far as I'm concerned, he's the Democratic nominee and he should be supported. He should be in the most impersonal language possible. Anyway, sorry.

And do you support him? Oh, sure. I support him. Sure, I support him. Sure, I know. Whatever. Anyways, Mike Johnson, different type of masturbation enthusiast in the sense that you can tell based on how hard. he has to try to stop jacking off

and the way that he does that is by any time he does jack off or like go to a website to jack off it sends a notification to his teenage son that tells covenant eyes jack covenant eyes yeah yeah yeah we all know about this masturbation technology okay

but also here's important to remind me not only is he sweating that was me doing covenant eyes oh yeah Molly did covenant eyes yeah see no evil I see it up in a fan. Calmed in eyes. You see my

you see my shit when I jack my shit. So anyway, much to his displeasure, there was a special election in Arizona on Tuesday. Now, as we record this, the election is still happening. So we don't know exactly what the results are. Because it's a special election to fill a congressional vacancy in the House. and both the Democratic frontrunner and the Republican candidate have both said they want the Epstein files out, and they will be the one to sign on to that discharge petition to get it to a floor vote. Oh, my God.

What are you guys doing? Yeah. Yeah. So, again, if the same people that vote for the discharge petition or sign for the discharge petition also supported the public disclosure of the files in a floor vote, it's a wrap. However, because there's always however, right, Speaker Johnson has said, he's like, well, I'm definitely, if it happens, I won't kill it. But technically he could through the rules committee. So TBD on that. And he may just have to go mask off predator protector and block it.

But there's also the whole thing of like, at that point, how much cooperation do you get from Trump's DOJ? You know, when like they're regularly being like, I don't know, fucking con, whatever you're fucking soon. Yeah, yeah. Or they do their heavily redacted version. where it's just like, it's only Bill Clinton and Bill Gates and Chris Tucker. Those are the only words that aren't redacted. Yeah, it's only guys named Bill. If you're named Bill, watch out.

Yeah. Anyways, more will be revealed. We'll see. Or not. Yeah. But probably, it seems like there's a lot of a lot of energy behind this whole. It's just going to get really weird. Can we see these files?

You guys are being so fucking weird. No, and it's not even weird, dude. Just go fucking pay attention to someone else, man. It's not fucking weird. Sure. It's fine. Uh, let's talk about Ezra Klein. This is the person who was, like, had a big rise in, uh, attention and popularity during the election and has used that, uh, since the election to lose his damn mind.

He wrote, wrote a book those like the, what's it called the abundance movement? Yeah. With Derek Thompson. And it's like they had a, it, their whole idea. idea is just like, this is how we stay on the neoliberalism path without continuing to lose elections, almost like people don't like neoliberalism. And it involves like being like, why don't we fund science fiction projects that will like get people excited. What? Why do you pay people a fucking living wage? Yeah, yeah. Just like any. Nah, no, no, no. They need more.

it is you saying this time. Wow. Really good. Damn. Bars. Fucking bars. Yeah. Well, this time, I mean, obviously, like, as if his Kirk op-ed wasn't bad enough. Yeah, his Kirk op-ed was also just being like, Charlie Kirk and I? Very similar. I admired the movement that he built. And that we both hate Muslims.

Right. Oh, what is, wait, what are you saying? This is again- Every new time's op-ed is like, what if we did nothing? Yeah, exactly. They're doing nothing? What if we rebranded nothing into something? Yeah. Huh?

What about that? Yeah, but this time he sat down with a conservative colleague at the times for one of their podcasts. And they get to talking about all kinds of things. It was like, is the political radicalization? Intent. It's so much on the left. Is that something I should be worried about as a conservative or whatever?

And then the conversation kind of goes around to like what the stakes are currently. He said no, which is good. Yeah, he said no. He was like, no. Like, yeah, Antifa is coming for your babies. Yeah, he's like, I don't know. Look at the last couple high profile political violence events. They have, they've been, as he said, right coded, which is, I think, a very, like,

meanly mouth way of, like, just being like, they were MAGA people. Yeah. Okay. But anyway, then he's like, he doesn't want to get fired from hosting his late night show. That's right. Right. They talk about, like, sort of the alarmism within the party about, like, the stakes are so high. And, like, what do we do because this is this, this fascistic takeover?

Within the Democratic Party? Yeah, the alarmism within it to be like, look, what's happening? What are we going to do? We have to do something. And he's basically saying that like, look, if you're going to be alarmist and stuff, then we also got to be willing to make some tough choices here. And this is just kind of, this is where the, this is his answer sort of to this whole thing of like, what does the Democratic Party do if you feel like you're in this existential moment? Do we have to let more people into the party? Do we expel people? What do we do? So here's Ezra Klein. And that a lot of the people, embrace alarm, don't embrace what I think obviously follows from that alarm, which is the willingness to make strategic and political decisions you find personally discomforting, even though they are obviously more likely to help you win. Is that like endorsing Zoran Mbani? No, no, no, no, no. Let him keep talking about. Okay, sorry. Let him cook. Okay, sorry, I will put the heat back on. Please cook, Ezra. Right. Taking political position. It'll make it more likely win Senate seats in Kansas and Ohio and Missouri, trying to open your coalition to people you didn't want it open to before running pro-life Democrats.

And one of the biggest frustrations and many people whose politics otherwise share is the unwillingness to match the seriousness of your politics to the politics to the. seriousness of your alarm. I'm sorry. So if you're so worried, why don't you just start running pro-life people? They've said this so many times at this point. This is always there. I also just saw this quote from Kamala's press tour

where she said Trump is a communist. I was just like, man, they love to lose. Oh, it'd be like, well, he's, because he's controlling businesses. Yes, she's like, we have a communist. Yes, yeah, just like not like, not, because they won't call him a fascist because they're like, the language is divisive. Yeah, yeah. So they're like, he's a communist.

And we all hate communists, right? And we all hate communists, right? Yeah. Yeah, so they're taking a step back from an election where they lost all, they started with some momentum, then lost all momentum when they just like kept tacking right word. Like they started being like, they're weird. and people were like, oh, shit. Also, like, inflation was caused by corporate greed. People were like, wait, what?

Can you say that as a Democrat? There's a lot of, like, just, you know, a lot of momentum. And then slowly by slowly, just, like, turned towards dick cheney. Like, slowly were like, what if we were the Cheney's of the, and completely lost. All momentum got, you know, destroyed. and both Ezra Klein, who's supposed to be like smartest guy in the Democratic Party and the person who lost that election have taken a step back and been like, we just need to do that more. We just need to be more Republicans from the early 2000s.

Like, that seems like that is their only solution. And I don't know how they're getting away with it in their own head. And they're always the first thing they always say is like, well, we got to give up on abortion. It's like, shut up. Here's the thing popular. What is wrong with them? Like, again, and this is what Democrats are saying behind closed doors. You know, like other prominent Democrats on Twitter were echoing the sentiment, essentially saying,

we need to expand the tent. We got to expand the tent. They want to lose. They love to lose. It's because if they lose, they keep fundraising. They keep going on these stupid press tours. But now they're not even fundraising as much. They got to know.

They need a new grift. I mean, the money's still coming in, but like, there's, for the first, at least eight months, people were like, stop talking to me. Because they can't. They won't. Many people were giving money, I guess. Because they can't condemn capitalism because it's part of their grift. And so anything that would make life better for working class people, they won't support. That's what's so wild.

Ultimately, just Republicans with little blue collars. Right. Does he not understand, like, taking away things like abortion access? is more authoritarianism, you know what I mean? Like, to be like, I'm actually going to restrict people's freedom. Like, does he, like, also he's like, how do we went in Kansas or Missouri? They had voter initiatives that, like, were there to protect abortion rights. That one.

That meant Republicans also voted for that. It's just they can't, they have the inception fucking idea locked away in their brain, that triangulation is the only thing that has made them, like, win. Right. Like the Quintonian triangulation of like, okay, well, we just like take their position and then how can they beat us? Well, that does, that has not worked since the fucking 90s. Yeah.

And didn't work then. It's like they don't, they don't want to stand for anything. And that's why when they're faced with somebody like Zoron who like does stand for things, they're like, well, we can't have that. I can't have that. Well, because I think this is. Actually, their quote is, sure, fine. Sure.

I guess he's a Democrat. Sure, I back the Democratic candidate. What do you want me to fucking say? God, you're such an asshole. Sorry, guys, I just can't say his name without spitting on the ground. So I do just have to call him. Or foaming at the mouth. But like, I think because this is how they look at it, right?

They look at the up for grabs voting blocks that are there of eligible, of people they can go after, right? And they've completely just ignored the margin that's to the left of them. And the insane amount of people who are progressive or who are there to back progressive ideas. And they're only going to like, well, who are the people that still believe in capitalism and we don't have to do much to make this place work? Those are the people we need to talk to because we're not going to win those other people. We're not going to win the working class. And again, appealing to their ideals, like the ideals of like protecting American democracy is not a winning message. And they just tried that.

They just, their entire battle plan for decades has just been like, well, we're not them. you don't like them where you have to less them than they are they don't offer any thing that anybody wants and then you have somebody like Zoran being like

hey people should be able to live and make enough money rent freezes so people can afford to have shelter yeah yeah like people need to rent needs to be sustainable and you know people should be able to make a living on a minimum wage job to buy food for their family

They're like, these leftists are tearing America apart with their crazy beatneck ideas. Yeah. I mean, like, again, the messages have to be economic, right? You ask a struggling single parent with like two jobs. If they give two fucks about democratic norms right now, they're too busy trying to fucking survive. Right. And if you look at like, why did people vote for Trump? It's because he said he was going to make them money, give them, you know, that everyone was going to be doing well.

And now they're not, obviously. But people weren't smart enough to know that anyway. Yeah. You know what I mean? You have been the obvious thing. Yeah. They could run the easiest focus group right now, the Democrats of all time. They just bring in working class American voters and go, here's the focus group.

Here are two options. You let us know which one you're interested in. A, protecting the sanctity of congressional oversight, or B, increasing the federal minimum wage to $15. Hit a button. They would find a way to word that such that it was like, you know, communism. Or they'll be like, well, without congressional oversight, you won't get your $15 minimum wage. Same shit. Man, I wish we had communism.

Yeah, this is, again, I think every time we see this, the leadership of the party just has no fucking clue what life is like for people in this country. Like, people are struggling to make ends meet. Yeah, they're just so out of touch. They're in this little D.C. bubble. And also, like, everyone who worked on any of the last few campaigns should be completely out of the Democratic establishment at this point. but they all send out the same people over and over again.

People like Ezra Klein who have been wrong a million times, just like getting trotted back out. Like maybe, well, maybe I won't be wrong this time. Yeah. I think, again, because the problems are like too nebulous to them for them to understand. It's like they've come across a thirsty person in the desert and they're screaming for some water. And the Democrats are like, hey, can I offer you a nebulous voucher program

to potentially use towards child care if you qualify? They're like, no, I need water. Yeah. I mean, it truly is just like they're learning no lessons from Zoran being popular, which, you know, again, it's like he's popular. People like him. People want these things that he's promising. And they're like these damn young millennials, which, who are by the way old now. And it's it's just like they're clinging to power so intensely.

It's, they're bringing everybody down. Yeah. And the people who fund them. that, like, they are a conglomerate of interests, and those interests are directly opposed to any, all the ideas that Zoroamam Dhani espouses. And so they just can't, they just can't, they can't, like, they physically, like, you see it in Kamala Harris when she's there's. There's like a, yes, there's like a horizon they can't see beyond, especially people like Kamala who've been in establishment politics their whole lives and who've been told, like, no compromise, compromise, like don't want anything. Yeah. But it's the right keeps going further right. They keep under this idea that like, well, we'll go just like a bit, a little bit to their left. And then we'll have this whole side of the pie to like. No, they just go.

They go to the right. The right goes further right. And then they go for the right. They're just chasing it. Yeah, yeah. We go further right. And then you're leaving numbers behind back here to the left of it. Yeah.

And then the right are bullies to them. And they're like, oh, we got to, we can't stand up to these bullies. We got to like capitch. violate. Yeah. Because they're bullying. You know how you stop the bullying. You become what the bully wants you to be. And then they'll stop. Somebody who's like on the just left-ish side of things comes out. And it's like they're the only person saying the thing that like that entire part of the population wants to hear. And they have enormous power and, uh, you know, energy behind them. And they just can't, can't deal.

I know. Ever since they, ever since they rat fucked Bernie. It's just been like, well, we know they're not going to help, probably. I think, like, people just need to start exposing all these pundits and, like, mouthpieces for the party for how little connection they actually have to working class America. Like, I want to ask all these people, like, who is the poorest person you know and interact with regularly? That is your friend, not someone that works for you. Do you have friends that are on the brink of homelessness or can't pay bills? or have their backs to the wall with medical expenses.

Do you know someone with two minimum wage jobs? And of course, the answer is, oh, God, no. I went on that reporting trip to a diner in Pennsylvania five years ago. So I do. I have met them. This is the fucking problem. The stakes for working class Americans are just too abstract for the leadership class to fully grasp. So they can't even offer a solution that resonates. They can only offer solutions that, like, make themselves as establishment people comfortable.

They're like, well, this will help me feel better. Or they're saying things, but they're not doing things. Like Gavin Newsom right now is saying a lot of stuff that sounds good. But in terms of stuff he's doing. I was like, you're not going to trick me, Gavin. We know you love to start chatting shit. But you're all bad. You're all fucking that.

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We're recording this before it came back, but allegedly. Could you imagine. But it's like, actually they ended up canceling it again. We don't know if he's been raptured. But the, uh, after Disney, uh, basically. reversed course on its indefinite suspension when it became clear that everyone was mad at them. Yeah. Tom Hanks signed the letter saying we're bad?

Yeah. So there's a big letter that went around that basically said, I think it was an open letter by the ACLU condemning Disney, signed by hundreds of Hollywood stars, including Tom Hanks, who literally played Walt Disney in a Disney movie. You think that's what did it for him? They're like, he played Walt Disney. Wait, we just got to let. He just, like, put on his Walt Disney mustache. They were like, wait, what the fuck?

Walt Disney mad at us? Wow, Jamie Lee Curtis also signed it, too. Wasn't she just in tears about Kirk being a man of faith or something? She just loves to sign things. Yeah. Anything. Oh, yeah, sure. Great, great, great, great.

Maggie Gyllenhaal, Michael Keaton, Regina King, Diego Lunar, which is so funny. I forget who tweeted or something. I was like, they just won a bunch of ends. is about a show that was fighting fascism with Andor and then cave to it in real life with the Kimmel cancellation. I think we can get by this thing. We already won the Andor thing. It's controlled opposition. Yeah, right.

Sinclair is still going to preempt the show for its ABC affiliates, which good news for Steve Harvey fans. Because the last time they were like, we're going to put on an ode to Charlie Kirk. And then it was just celebrity family feud. Wow, I love Family Feud. Let's see, Harvey Family Feud is good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wonder if that's also like, I'm sure there's so much corporate math happening too, where it's like, all right, what do we stand to lose?

Let's game it out. Sinclair keeps preempting. What's our revenue hit versus what we might lose in Disney plus subscriptions or lack of support for our future products or the new ESPN app or whatever? I'm really curious how that, like, what the decision-making process was? because it surely wasn't, guys, we're going to be on the wrong side of history here. No, no, no. We need to dig in.

We recognized that this was a bad look for the Disney Corporation. Right. Yeah. I mean, some people are stating that the reason that they back down is because they lost $3.87 billion as a result of the suspension. This is actually, I think, an insidious little bit of propaganda because, like, it still is operating in a world where, like, the stock market is going to save us from authoritarianism. Oh, being like, we, we put pressure on the stonk and that helped us. Right. They did a thing that was unpopular and like, you know, bowed to pressure from the Trump administration and they lost stock value. First of all, the amount

of value that they lost, like turns out it was only like 0.67 percent, which is like completely within the range of normal fluctuation on any given day. I imagine they're just looking at a little ticker tape of little Mickey's, and they're just like, oh, no, the Mickey's are going down. The Mickey's frowning. The Mickey's frowning. Make it smile and go, wee. It's like that smiley chart that's like green, smiley face.

Right, right, right. But yeah, I mean, we've seen that the stock market is rewarding people getting in line with Trump's authoritarian administration. Like, so, like, and getting punished by them is going to be bad for your stock prices. But anyone who's still, like, I remember this was a thing, like, during the first Trump administration where, like, a company would, like, push back and people would, you know, be, like, and they've gained a bunch of value or like the Nike thing. And it's just like, no, I think we can give up on the, ha ha, you know, the stock market. will decide what's right. You don't ever want to go down.

You're like, who got my back? And then you list a bunch of corporations. It's like, no, they never did. They never will. Turns out they're not going to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Well, I'm glad at least those people signed a piece of paper.

And I don't know who's going to feel more powerful. The people, the Disney adults who threw their Disney subscription in the trash or Natalie Portman and Maya Rudolph. I hope it's Natalie Portman and Maya Rudolph. I hope it's Natalie Portman and Maya Rudolph. There's like, do you, I also see people who are like, well, I'm not going to watch the Mandalorian and Grogu trailer. Oh, really? I'm like, yeah, that's really going to show them.

You're not going to watch the trailer because I don't want to see spoilers. I'm like, I want, I want Grogu for president. Yeah, at this point. Fuck it. Yeah. They did allegedly delay the release of that trailer because they, because it was supposed to draw. dropped last week and then this was happening last week. So they were like, so that's like the big change they made.

Yeah, and they were like, let's delay the release of this trailer. They delayed some premieres because they didn't want people to show up in protest, I think. Oh, right? That Lilith Fair dock, right? Wasn't like they got rid of the red carpet and then everyone's like, fuck this. We're not doing anything anymore with this. Yeah, no, they did it. They showed it.

They just, they were going to have like performances and stuff and people pulled out actually because they were like, we can't be performing. They're like, do you know what Lilith Fair is? is even like I don't know right you guys a bunch of corporate stooges not not not at that time we weren't not yet not yet yeah I also like a lot of the reporting keeps referring to like the decision to pull Kimmel's show off the air for his comments relating to the death of Charlie Kirk no like his comments wasn't it just it was about how they were they were he said he was talking about scoring political points, like using the death to score political points, and hoping that this

guy was a left-wing person. Right. Which seems definitely true. It was actually nothing. Yeah, it was nothing directly about the kid, like, of like being like crass about the killing, more so about, like, commenting on them being crass about the killing. No, it was clearly just that Trump was like, you know, he's taken him down one by one. And right. Yeah. It's that he makes fun of Trump. and this was the excuse to take him down. But the way that the mainstream media is writing about it is they keep being like relating to his comments relating to the death of Charlie Kirk,

which seems like a win for the forces of censorship. Well, that's the problem is all the media is like completely monopolized by right-wing people now. And so except for this damn show. That's right. The resistance. The resistance brought to you by Raytheon. Well, we have.

also don't have a major merger on the horizon. No, no corporations are trying to merge with us. No matter what actually happens, they report whatever they want and then people believe it. Yeah. Yeah. It's always like just very

bad faith summations of it. You can just, again, there used to be like some outlets will be like really, really harmless commentary from Kimmel that was blown out of proportion. I've only maybe seen that described that way like twice. over the last week.

Yeah. And that would be like from like, Democrats keep taking the bait and being like, oh, you're right. I have to put out a statement saying something. And I will also vote to memorialize this person.

And you're like, yeah. Really? Really? No. Okay. So you guys agree on a lot of stuff. It sounds like.

Huh. Kind of like there's one party. Kind of like there's one, just two kind of flavors of it. You know what I mean? But hey, what do I know? And then like just the Brendan Carr shit,

like the head of the FCC. acting like he never said anything about like launching this pressure campaign is so fucking I never threatened to pull licenses of ABC stations if the network didn't fire Kimmel and then there's this quote let me see it's time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney and say listen we're going to preempt we're not going to run Kimmel anymore so you straighten this out because we licensed broadcasters are running into the possibility of fines or license revocation from the FCC if we continue to run content that ends up being a pattern of news distortion.

I said it was about news distortion. That's like what he was getting all like overly pedantic about it was like, it was about news distortion. Sure. And you're like, yeah, but you're still talking about the FCC revoking licenses. Yeah. Like in relation to this. So what are you trying to say?

Running car kind of doing the shaggy defense. Yeah. Oh, 100%. The old. It wasn't me. Especially too when people were like, there was like that one tweet that blew up because someone was like, oh my God, guys, this is straight out of Project. 2025 and he replied to that tweet with the Jack Nicholson yes giff and you're right wait that's what

you fucking saying you fucking goof it's also like this thing that where they're doing things i mean it kind of goes along with the Kamala thing where she's like i where you say things as impersonally and like in the most passive voice possible you know where she's like i would uh endorse the Democratic. 500 miles. Yeah. Like just so I would Democrat.

I would endorse the Democrat nominee. But he said, listen, we're going to preempt. He's saying, it's time they said, we're going to preempt.

So he's like putting this in like three layers of quotes to be like, because we might be worried that the FCC is going to revoke our license. It's time that they said. Yeah, exactly.

That we are. I never said it. I said it's time that they said that in our voice. Exactly. I said that they should get out a puppet that represents us and says these things. I did not say that we said that. I did not say that as myself. Okay, this is my Bruce Buffer puppet going, it's time.

It's a lot of these licensed broadcasters push them. And that was like a hypothetical, man. It was like a UFC fight, man. This is like obviously would never happen, obviously. Fuck. Guys, it's terrible. Yeah, just such, again, terrible fucking look. And I think for people that need more evidence that these corporations and these like sort of

moneyed interests are ever going to stand up for anyone's fucking rights, you were sorely fucking mistaken. They are just ready to do whatever they need to do, to again, do what they have to, to make sure that they're a shareholder value, that that is maintained and augmented as much as possible. All right. Let's talk about flying cars real quick. here that that is a piece of the future that I think everybody had in mind at a certain point that were like this is what's going to come and make it feel cool make it that or jet packs all

worthwhile the the big great consumerism movement where everything just has like a slightly upward tilt and things keep getting better and better until one day we have flying cars by the way the Jetsons took place in a in the sky, but we never see what's happening down on earth. It's where the poor people are. I didn't know where this was going. The Jetsons took place in the sky. In the sky.

I'm just saying. The Jetsons took place in 2023. That's what I thought you were going to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There are fan theories that it's like an Elysium situation where like this is just how the wealthy live in the Jetsons universe. And there are even some fan theories that suggest that what's happening on Earth was the other Hannah-Barbara cartoon, the Flintstones? Yeah, that the Flintstones is, everything else has gone back to the Stone Ages.

And so it's like just a parable about inequality. Wow. Because they live in a place called Orbit City, and it takes place in 2062, actually. Well, we're getting there. We're getting there. Yeah. But I do think, I do think we can maybe hold on to the. idea of the Jetsons. I'll explain that at the end. But the idea of a democratically available

flying car, I think I'm going to kill that dream for myself. There was just a mid-air collision in China during a rehearsal for an air show where two flying cars crashed into each other due to insufficient spacing. What does that mean? Which is the whole fucking sky? The whole thing is, yeah, you're supposed to have a little fucking sky. But, like, people are pointing out, like, that you would need air traffic controllers for any flying car. Like, think about what happened when Newark's air traffic control center, like, blacked out for a second.

And, like, there was a couple minutes where they didn't know where the planes were. And everybody, like, had a, everyone was like, this, it was the most distraught I've ever been. Like, that's the level of knowledge. and, like, control that you need to have over anything that's in the sky to make sure that it doesn't crash into something else that's in the sky. Man was not meant to fly. I think that might be true.

I'm sure some thick skull to consider we're like, well, we don't need ground traffic control for cars. Right. Because people just know not to drive into each other. You've got to have rules, right? Damn, never mind. I'm back on board. I think we got this thing figured out.

That's like they're trying to get a thing going here That's like Uber helicopters The worst idea anyone's ever heard I think that's exactly what's going to happen I think this is going to be a thing They'll like call them flying cars But they'll just be like helicopters essentially And it'll just be for rich people

Like for a handful of rich people For rich people with a death wish Yeah Yeah and it kind of already is that Like people who don't live in L.A. might not, like, live with helicopters constantly flying overhead, but, like, L.A., you know, like Kobe was flying around in a helicopter, like, a lot of wealthy people, like, fly around in helicopters, like, when they need to get somewhere. So, I mean, yeah. Yeah. It's, it's, again,

this is like what Sao Paulo is like in Brazil, like, where people fly in helicopters because of the traffic, but it's also big, it's down class lines because it's like, well, if I'm in a car, I might, I might be vulnerable to kidnapping. Right. So I just fly. above it all to my luxury apartment to my business to wherever well they'll never see it coming when me and my band of helicopter bandits yeah just do the great train robbery strings around the rotors deal with that but again like they have like they have like some some in weird wild amount of like helicopter air traffic control in so apollo because there are so many fucking people just flying around in helicopters to be like not dealing with the not dealing with the terrestrial bullshit right

They're going to their job at the Space Space League Corporation. Right, exactly. Elon Musk has said that he's going to invent flying cars. He actually did that 10 years ago saying that he was going to do it just for fun. And the only challenge was making them quiet, but that that's wrong. What a fucking, this is, it's so easy for these tech people to just do the dumbest lies to be like to puff your chest. I'm like, dude, that's fucking light work, bro. The flying car.

Iron man. Yeah. The one thing I got to do, just make them quieter. Everything else, I got it figured out. And then other people go, oh, wow, thank you. That's so crazy, dog. Thank you, bro. Yeah.

I love you. Can I buy Tesla hat now? Yeah, dude. $78. Like, he tried to do just, like, tunnels. He just tried to be like, we're going to make tunnels that people can drive through. And, like, he fucked that up massively. But, like, got the funding and, you know, what was able to.

He gets the funding. He wastes us from having the train that goes up and down. California that we need all real bad. Right. Yeah. And this, I'm assuming this will, flying cars will be available to everyone. It won't just be the obscenely wealthy.

No, of course not. Every example I've seen even now is clearly like they're like, you can get one for 20 bucks, I think? Yeah. No, it's just going to be more, yeah, they're already pursuing it. It's just going to essentially be a helicopter flight for the extremely wealthy. The big problem is infrastructure, like,

not in the skies, but on the ground, since companies haven't figured out how to site permit and construct enough places for vehicles to land and take off. And, yeah, it would necessitate pilot training, which, as we saw in the latest episode of the, or the latest season of the rehearsal, takes a lot of time. Costly licensing, aircraft manufacturers need to submit designs years in advance.

And there are flying cars now, but they don't look like cars, and they kind of exist in a weird legal gray area with these like electric vertical takeoff in landing vehicles or eftoles. And they're just designed for very rich people. There's one company that markets the very first certified commercial flying car ever delivered. And it's a picture of this like weird like three wheeled car. You know, you ever see those like three wheeled cars out on the road?

Yeah, like a raptor, I think is what they're a tier, whatever those. It looks like one of those, and they just, like, parked it in the driveway of a mansion, and then they just inserted a photo of, like, a 70-year-old rich guy in a tuxedo next to it. They're just like, this is, this basically sums it up. They're like, rich people want to be in a tin can in the sky. That's right. It's unregulated. It looks like a Chrysler prowler.

That's exactly what it looks like. Yeah. I don't even see where the fucking wings are. I don't know if it's like it's like it's. I think they just. move the front wheels of the Chrysler Prouler to the back. And they're like, eh, and that's, that fucking flies, dog, and it's

190, and you have it, and it comes with a tuxedo. You're good. Free tux. And it's just like a Halloween store level tux. This is a t-shirt with the t-sito print on the front? Because they are impractical and elitist, of course, Donald

Trump is embracing them. In June, he signed executive orders establishing a, quote, pilot program for Evtolls that would apply to emergency medical services air taxis and cargo deliveries among other areas okay i like medical services great start with that and then he goes taxis and you're like that's where the lobbyists were they're like hey man what about the fucking taxis too because i'm going to get some more rich people in the sky i mean the road's already unsafe with people in like on the ground in cars you know what i mean like add to that

some wealthy person who already thinks they're now literally above it all and above the law like They're not going to get in their fucking EV toll and be completely fucked up behind the joystick or whatever they fucking fly this thing with. Yeah. I guess at that point they would have a chauffeur. Yeah, I'm flying it with my mind, obviously. Yeah, with my neuralink. Yeah, exactly. That's why it took me to Odyssey Video, officer.

There's quote, if somebody doesn't maintain their flying car, it could drop a hubcap and guillotine you. And that was from Elon Musk, who wants to kind of push forward with us. Man, he sure is concerned about guillotine's for some reason. Yeah, a lot of, could guillotine you. God, could Galane Maxwell you? Who knows? Trump administration announced they will allow companies to test air taxis before they're formally certified by the FAA. That was just last week. Oh, thank God.

So what could go wrong? Jesus Christ. Molly Lambert, such a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on Instagram at Molly underscore Lambert. And soon enough, you will find me host in general world starting October 27th here on IHeartRadio. That's right. So get ready for that, a big old podcast.

Yeah, fucking insane lineup of voice talent. Every time you post people that are in the studio, I'm like, what the fuck? Okay. Yeah, you guys are in it. Miles is Kid Rock. Oh, sorry. Oh, Jack, what's the fuck? You can say that.

Miles is actually, Miles is Kid Rock. I am Kid Rock. If you want to hear me do my kid rock impression. It's so funny. It's so funny. The way. Miles is very method so he doesn't like. I was like, that's Kid Rock.

That's not Miles. That's Kid Rock. Hey, man, people want to see you fuck. Whatever that weird line you. I'm not even going to say some weird shit. When I got the, when you sent me the lines. The way I was like, okay, I'm going to have to do at least three different

reads of each one to really give Molly options in post. You found out. You found out. Just like getting the energy. Oh, yeah, dude. I shot a whole 12 pack of bug, Bud Light with a shotgun before I fucking recorded. You were wearing a little straw hat and a little tank top. And it asked Scott because I don't want to forget, I am a rich boy.

Deep, just like Kid Rock. I am a rich boy. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Molly, is there a work of meat? you've been enjoying? Man, I've just been watching The Simpsons. When times are tough. Yeah.

Sometimes you don't have it. And I watched the new Real House House of Salt Lake City, which is incredible. Somebody was like, why is this new season like Twin Peaks for some reason? It is the editing. Really? Like that's the energy they're going for? Yeah, you just watch the first episode. It is the strangest editing.

It is, you would think it was a true crime. show. It's very weird and I love it. Speaking of Salt Lake, I was just like, Galane Maxwell and Jen Shaw are in the same prison. Yeah. I mean, it is a true crime show because of Jen Shaw. And like all of the Real Housewives end up being true crime shows because somebody gets arrested for being a scammer on almost every one of the franchise. Wow. It's like these people who project wealth are like, I'm not on the up and up, huh? Just watch the first episode. It's crazy. It's like They go on an RV trip, and then they start telling scary stories around a campfire about a woman who escaped from Mormonism and then haunts people who have sinned.

And that girl was me! No, but her name is Molly. The ghost's name is Molly Sheehan. Oh. And there's like a thing in Mormonism where they call people Molly Mormon when they're like a, that's like the stereotypical Mormon. Like a do-gooder. Yeah. do good Mormon because do you know what they call Mormons who aren't good Mormons and like smoke and drink.

Jack Mormons. That's true. Jacko Mormon. Jack and off. Jacko Mormons. Jeff, they call him tubans. Yeah, tubins. Miles, where can people find you as there at work of media you've been enjoying?

Yeah, find me everywhere, you know, fucking everywhere. They have ad symbols. Everywhere. Where. Also, catch me talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé. What was I been watching? I've just been watching Love is Blind UK in it. I'm just getting through it. This one, the UK one, like, it's hit or miss.

Some people got great ban, but there's also just like, it's just, the shows are so funny to me because these people like are so mentally unwell that they're like, I fell in love with someone through a wall and I'm going. going to marry them and then inevitably like it unravels in the most predictable way and I'm like guys what the fuck did you think this was there's like only there's only like two people in the history of the show that actually made it um but anyway I've been watching that for a bit of relationship shot and Freud I wonder like the fact that every time there's a real housewives they like are doing a scam do we just think that that's because that's a natural sampling of rich

people in the United States and it's just like they can't stop doing this scam and I also think there is a kind of like murderer who can't stop confessing thing where they're just like yes I will go on television and no one will ever know my secret and one of the people one of the other housewives who has like a scam church

she's like just still on the show and her church oh Mary? Yeah Mary so funny. That shit is I remember the first season I'm like y'all yeah she's married to her grandfather yeah this is all fucked up she's married to her grandfather.

Jack's face when I just said she's married you were a grandfather. You were like smiling and you went like Yeah, look, get into it. Get into the show. It's a crazy show.

It's also like the other, that one is like the least like these people are rich and lead glamorous lives. It's like they're rich and their lives are, they live in Salt Lake City. Yeah.

And sometimes they get the dirty sodas, which look really good. I mean, right? You put the creamer in the soda. Also it's her step grandfather. Yeah, insurceptive father Stop my blood, normal Yeah

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Looks great Just a couple notes Maybe look into replacing The Mandalorian with Jackie Chan And Grogu with Chris Tucker Fucking shut stupid would be good you can find me on

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in today's episode we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy miles is there a song that you think that people might enjoy. Yeah, yesterday we did some like boom bap rap instrumental stuff. But from what was Bugseed. But today I have some instrumental music, but this is a live band called Orion's Belt with an E after the T on belt. The track is called the Carnedau, C-A-R-N-E-D-A-U,

and they're a Norwegian instrumental band, but they're fucking groovy. They, I mean, like the music is just super laid back. Sounds great. peaceful. You're going to love it. I swear. So this is the Karnedau by Orion's belt. All right. We'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zikeis is a production of IHeart Radio for more podcasts from IHartRadio for my heart radio visit. The IHartRadio app, Apple podcast, wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us. This morning,

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