The Daily Zeitgeist - The Kennedys Ride Again, DUI of Fast & The Furious 1.31.18

Episode Date: February 1, 2018

In episode 75, Jack & Miles are joined by 'Yo Is This Racist's' Andrew Ti to discuss Puerto Rico, the State of the Union, Joe Kennedy III's speech, Paul Manafort's Atlantic profile, immigration, Fast & the Furious influencing bad behavior, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That is courtesy of Niall Watson at RyeRedShithead on Twitter. And I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray now, gray now. Don't dream it's over. Hit the high note. I mean, I'm out here. Yes, I was a former castrati and I sang in the choir. And that goes out to Jose Antonio Reyes on Twitter.

Again, that's back-to-back AKs for you, my man. If you hit me with three in a row, that'll be good. Nice. No award, no hat-trick. Hey, I don't want to lock myself in. I didn't know the castrati procedure was reversible. It was. Yeah, that's great.

My mother lied to me for many years. It turned out I was not a castrati. Okay, good. Well, we are thrilled to be joined for the third time, I believe, on this show by the hilarious host of Yo, Is This Racist? Andrew T. What up? What's up, man?

I'll take the whatever, the award for the three. A hat trick? Is that what it's called? Yeah, a hat trick. There you go. A hat trick. The triple crown. Three crowns.

Hitting for the cycle would be the fourth one. Andrew, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human? Most recently, video game playthroughs. Still on that tip. So there's that if that wants to generally be revealing. But the thing before that was the phrase, hamster eating a burrito. Oh, yeah, yeah. That video.

Yeah. So I must have been trying to see that. I feel like this is where I'm like, this is how the news cycle works for old Andrew T. It goes like, see a bunch of people making jokes about something on Twitter, not getting it, trying to distill one noun, one verb, and I guess an object from time to time, and putting that into Google to just figure out what the fuck is happening. So did you end up seeing the video? Yeah, I assume I did. It was a live shooting burrito. Yeah.

I think it's like Tiny Dennis. And that was a pretty big video for a little bit. Yeah. That's how my brain works, though. So in case I ever sound ill-informed, it's because that is my primary information source. Just Twitter. Yeah. Twitter memes.

Guessing. For people who are driving and haven't already looked it up. Tiny hamster eating. The burritos are small. I was picturing giant burritos. No, no, no. Burritos are tiny, which makes it a lot of fun. I assume Japanese?

No, they're LA-based. I think they're a production company that did it. What? I think they're called Tiny Denizens or something. I don't know. Hello Denizens. Hello Denizens. Yes, that's what it was.

I remember back. Wait, I have a question. You said you were watching video game playthrough videos? Oh, well, you know what? If we want to do this, that actually is my underrated. Okay. Here we go. Well, I guess you're the host now, Andrew.

Sorry, guys. What is something that is underrated? I'm so into eSports as the way I watch regular sports, which is i don't participate like i don't play fucking football right or like whatever but like that's my new thing is like because for a long time i was like i don't i don't play video games i don't get it and now i'm just all in i just watch people play video games what games um there's this which games there's a new one. I think it's called The Hunt, which is sort of like HP Lovecraft meets a first-person battle royale shooter game. So you're in teams of two hunting monsters, but other people are also hunting monsters, and you can all kill each other. Boom.

It is just gripping. I'll call it television yeah are you watching the ones like pewdiepie where you have the person talking through like a let's play yeah yeah yeah yeah so it's it's entertaining most of the people i like are british or canadian um i guess famously the the most like pleasant people are probably the like the mackleroy brothers the famous podcasting fam those guys play a lot of stuff and it's like you know unlike pewdiepie so much less likely to hear the n-word so that's cool that part is good um the few places you can watch video games be played and not hear the n-word yeah it's mostly look yeah i to me i was just like i had to cross a rubicon because i was

like now there's a third way to be into video games like i know i can't play video games because i have like the type of personality that i just remember like it being seven in the morning on a school night right and just being like one more zelda And I was like, this is insane. I can't do that. That's how we get down. I know, but I got shit to do. Wait, so you would be up until 7? No, I'd be like... Or you'd be up early?

No, no, no, up until 7. Wow. Just really going hard. So I'm like, I can't. I can't have video games in my life if I want to do anything. Although I guess if you're going to dovetail some kind of broadcast entertainment and video games, maybe I'm just doing market research for the thing I want to do anything. Although, I guess if you're going to dovetail some kind of broadcast entertainment and video

games, maybe I'm just doing market research for the thing I want to do. I stayed up real late playing Civilization, Sid Meier's Civilization. It's a game I used to stay up disgustingly late with my old roommate. I got him hooked, and it looked like a weird video game crack den.

It'd be like 4 in the morning, and I'm like, how far are you? I just know I can't do that, and I know I will do that if i get to playing but when i'm watching it's just like a sports it's like a sport yeah yeah i wonder if that is going to be like there's going to be a whole new generation of people who've like never played video games they're just like oh i'm just a fan i just like watch right yeah yeah god that would be really sad because that's like some little brother shit you know when you're playing as a kid and you're like can i play you're like fuck out of here jason right that's what i like the other thing that i the other walkthrough that i like is uh resident evil 7 oh you ever seen that is that the newest

one i think it is uh two things that are very funny about it it's super scary and gross and disgusting but they made a vr version yeah So watching people genuinely be freaked out by the VR version is very funny. And then it's just as good as any other horror movie. Yeah. I don't know. Wherever you are on horror movies, it's as good as the average. Yeah. Resident Evil 2 fucked me up mentally.

I could not play that at night. What's something you think is overrated overrated is uh listening to both sides fuck the other side fuck all that uh specifically uh for a project i probably not i can't talk about it but i'm not ready to talk about it's just a personal thing i've been reading atlas shrugged and good jeezy it's been a while since i've hate read something that's a thousand pages right that's an investment it really is like the most painful thing i've ever done it is like just hateful and the thing is that the specific thing i'm getting towards is evidently somewhere in the third, we'll call it act, the third book of Atlas Shrugged.

There is like a 60 some odd page monologue about objectivism. I already got past like the five or 10 page monologue about the gold standard. That was incredible. But yeah, I was like, I went into this project thinking well i should do this this is just intellectual honesty and let me just say right now intellectual honesty is for fucking suckers let them know do it so that's pro gold standard way over oh yeah of course well gold standard now i'm now of course onto bitcoin but right i did actually buy like a hundred bucks worth of bitcoin because i wanted to play poker online with it so i went double gambling there you go that's wow that's layers

to that it was really if you want the poorest investment you could possibly make yeah that's it but ayn rand is pro Standard? That was like her philosophy? I think so. I'm basically reading the book cold and then going to go do some research afterwards. No second screen experience for you as of yet with Atlas Shrugged? Oh my god, the second scroll experience for every – Yeah, there you go every scroll let me just say even i haven't finished um atlas shrugged but anrand einrand i'm not gonna learn how to pronounce it um she lived through world war ii and multiple times in atlas shrugged she refers to um not taking enough profit when you could as quote unquote the most evil thing that could be done.

So even like that's an ignorant thing to write in 2018. A woman that straight up saw Hitler come and go and be like, well, you know, the worst thing is. His profit motive was on point. All right. We're trying to take a sample of what people are thinking and talking about right now, today, at this moment. And we like to start out by asking our guest, what is a myth? What's something people believe to be true that isn't true? Andrew.

Let me see. Here's a myth that some people believe, although it is being cracked, is that Kung Fu is not real at all. People believe kung fu is real? Is like a legitimate thing, sort of. Yeah, you can't step into the octagon with that shit. You 100% can't. I had a really sad conversation with my friend's five-year-old kid who is really into Ninjago and Bruce Lee.

And I was... He just shit on his dreams? Well, I think i diverted it i think i might have talked him into a child's jujitsu class like a fucking jits mob jits bro i yes it's all about the jits mob homie i mean so you're saying that kung fu like as we see it in movies is just bullshit it's just something that was made up well so beyond that it is like a we see it in movies is just bullshit it's just something that was made up well so beyond that it is like a thing where it's like it it is as it is sort of taught in 2018 it is by far the least effective way to learn how to punch and kick someone really yeah yeah like just go box right you know or people don't know andrew

is boxes i i'm okay okay look i've heard about you i heard you got hands out here i've heard from other people who said you go hard sometimes harder than they expect i used to be really good or like not really good but i used to be able to like, I've only one time in my life experienced this, like the actual getting in the flow matrix style thing when I was boxing where I was like, oh, I am literally two steps ahead of this person at every, and it felt like being Neo for like 30 seconds. This was a person who was very new and I'm not bragging. I'm not ever. This is when you went to that child's boxing. Right. Yeah. I beat up this kid. You know, bragging. I'm not ever. This is when you went to that child's boxing. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I beat up this kid. You know, this kid. Weak ass chin. No moves. Wasn't ready for that hook. No moves. Yeah, I've heard that a lot of the stuff that Bruce Lee made cool in movies is just, like, the jump kick is one of the most ineffective things that you can possibly do in a fight.

Like, jumping straight at someone and trying to kick them because you're just like taking your like all leverage out of the equation yeah and you're opening yourself up to be on the ground yeah and you're committing all of your weight in one direction by definition it's not none of those things are necessarily wrong but learning them in a kung fu karate school context is like just the least efficient way to learn that stuff. Yeah. And the whole like belt color thing is not the most official thing. That's also like that's the true American snowflakes like that. That's like a thing that is essentially marketing that American schools do to kind of keep you going.

Yeah. You want to get to black to black yeah and you gamify it and you like keep adding little things and they're essentially look i don't want to like the there's all kinds of ways but it is like i just really had to like talk this kid down from his dream of going he was like i'm going to g kundo school yeah and it's all that stuff is fine and it's good for your health and blah, blah, blah. And it's also true, like, he's five. And the other thing that I did that was very – I turned into, like, the worst Uncle Andrew type person. Because I actually – he was like, show me wrestling, show me wrestling. So I actually showed him –

Put him in an arm bar and shit. Well, I showed him a move called an Americana from side control. You can see this this and i don't know why i taught a five-year-old how to do this i mostly assumed he would not remember how to do it until his sister who i think is three wandered into the room oh shit and he showed her how to do it and i was like oh not only does he remember he process it enough to do and i was like okay this is exactly what like a crappy like adult with no kids does rolling up on his geosystem like hey you want to roll yeah it was really like i was like just please please please please more practical stuff like a standing triangle you know i mean stuff he can do on his friends at school i mean yo this kid is

like five-year-olds are for for their size and weight, crazy athletic. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm pretty sure. There's studies about how if you could have a baby's fitness, it's unattainable as a human. Baby strength is the strongest per pound and based on the size that we ever are, basically. Because a baby needs to, know we're babies are evolved to like hang on to a tree right until someone gets them right all right stay here baby just

tree gotta go yeah i gotta go buy some scratchers in the bodega you stand down hang on to this parking meter all right let's get into it miles puerto rico has been fixed yeah it has because apparently uh i guess fema they're like, yo, flawless victory. We're the fuck out of here. But that was what we heard yesterday, that FEMA was pulling out of Puerto Rico despite many people not having potable water or electricity or the fact that many students have left because, you know, you need computers to learn and you can't be learning in Burger King all the time, like the few places that have Wi-Fi or electricity. Anyway, so that came out yesterday. Apparently today FEMA was saying like, no, we're not leaving because the original rumor was that there were FEMA officials who were saying like, oh, well, a good amount of supermarkets have opened back up. And if we keep giving the food and the water away, then no one will buy the food and the water in the supermarkets.

That's right. That's my baby Ann talking. And that will affect the economy uh and then today they were they walked it back and they said well no we're not pulling out that was a decision that was being weighed or whether or not to like you know take a look at what stores were open and figure out if they were going to leave but they are saying that they are winding down food and water distribution which even if they're not leaving to wind down the assistance i think is a fucking awful decision. And also when you couple that with the fact that the largest, like the national power

company is being privatized to save some money, got disaster capitalism at work. We talked about this when it happened, but this is kind of the neocon playbook is you let a huge disaster happen and then you go in and privatize everything. They did it after Katrina. And, yeah, I mean, really the cruelest thing that they could do to these people is, you know, continue to give them assistance because then they won't learn to fight for themselves, right? Isn't that what I mean? The Randian philosophy?

Because they're not Americans, you know what I mean? They're just people with American passports, – let's not act like they're American. It's just – it's a disgrace. Right. I mean, this is like – it is a little troubling that they feel so confident to trot out an argument like grocery store economics. Right. Because it's like that means they're so confident in their like laissez-f faire capitalist like worldview that they're like, well, people will get on board. Like it's like weird. Like you can believe this sort of thing or that can be a consideration.

It is bizarre that that makes it to the top of the PR pile. Right. For like why you're why you would do this. Well, I think because these soundbites are probably just strictly for American people who might be like, well, I guess if the stores are open, things are going to go wrong. Grocery stores evoke abundance. Right. Yeah. Especially when you're an American and you're thinking of American grocery stores. You're like, oh, so they have a Safeway open that's just full of all the brands and stuff. Meanwhile, but not to even mention the dire straits that people are in financially.

So I don't know. That's really the sexiest argument as to why you can leave. It's like, well, the store is open. It's like, yeah, but a lot of people are still struggling financially, like dealing with the lack of work in the aftermath of just draining your savings and things like that. Yeah. So it's a very – All their belongings were destroyed. All their homes were destroyed.

Yeah, and people were dying of – not because of the lack of electricity or potable water. You know, let's limit that body count, too. But that's also like the other part of the neocon playbook is like, you know, disasters drive GDP. You have to spend money to fix stuff. And so it is really like, you know, what are you going to do? Like, is this good or bad? Like more money is flowing because people have to, like, repair stuff. Right.

But, like, ugh. Yeah, and we're not even really sending money there yet. So, you know. Right. We've got to. So they're going to do everybody a favor and hang out there for a little bit longer. For a little bit longer. Because they don't like the PR wave that got made there.

That is really nice of them, though. Yeah, that is cool. FEMA almost always gets it right, I think is what we can say. Yeah, that is cool. FEMA almost always gets it right, I think is what we can say. And then there's also this article that came out in The Atlantic that we all read. And it's dark, man. It is fucking dark. It's about Paul Manafort.

And it's called American Hustler, which is definitely a complimentary, like a way of making his struggle sound cool uh but it opens with him like crying and threatening to kill himself to his daughters and his daughters being like oh brother this shit again uh he's being a real tightwad with the cash right yeah like he's like he's gonna make me serve hot dogs at my wedding kickoff party right it does feel like when the inevitable biopic comes out of this the the role of the daughters is going to be a plum one that's going to be the one by oscar bait yeah um but yeah he's if he was a tortured dude i mean like this article is wild because it shows you it it's like wolf of wall street almost right but for lobbying yeah yeah

and like created lobbying as we know as we know. As we know. Like the super corrupt. Power broker. Right. Yeah. He brought everything like under the same roof. Right. That was his innovation. Yeah.

And like, how did that change? It used to be sort of just lame people offering to like, you know, help a politician get a job. But they were saying that, you know that the lobbying industry just in general was struggling to squeak by before Manafort. And then he came in in the late 70s and early 80s, and just now it's like they're the hot shit in DC. Yeah.

With Roger Stone, of course, at his side, which is the other crazy thing, too, is as much as- Nixon back-tad himself. Yeah. As much as you read this article and you hear Manafort, you also see Roger Stone come up a bunch. You're like, God damn. Yeah. This is wild.

It's just the same fucking dudes. Just stay in the picture. I mean, but I guess the one thing is, look, it's a long read. The Atlantic, however, did convert it into like an audio book. Yeah. So you can listen to it. We'll put that in the footnotes. Because honestly, when you listen to this, it's very hard to think that anything that happened with paul manafort and the russians and the trump

campaign was anything but egregious fuckery on his part there's no like he can't feign ignorance here so when he starts getting involved in the trump campaign his uh friends and advisors are like dude you cannot do this because he's in a lot of financial trouble, right? He owes dictators tons of money. He is just, you know, he stole money from a fucking oligarch, right? A Russian savage dude. He's like savage shit. He's like the friend in rounders or like some other action movie where they're like, oh

man, I'm good for it. And like the guys to come in and save their ass. Like that's Paul Manafort at the beginning of this. And then Trump's like, yeah, man, I'm good for it. And like the guys to come in and save their ass. Like that's Paul Manafort at the beginning of this. And then Trump's like, yeah, you can run my campaign. Right. Because the whole thing, he was so broke. He knew the only way he was going to kind of start getting his money back is if he could work with Trump.

And best case scenario, Trump becomes president. And that helps elevate his star because everything went wrong once Yanukovych was ousted in Ukraine. Or even just like like placing like i just feel like the profile i you just go all in on the right wing machine right and you just assume like being next to trump is good enough to like at least get me out of this right fuck well he's like but he was the kind of dude who would just be like uh who was it uh marcos in the philippines like gave him a briefcase like 100 million or 10 million dollars and he's like – but he was the kind of dude who would just be like – who was it? Marcos in the Philippines gave him a briefcase, like $100 million or $10 million, and he was like, hey, can you give this to Reagan? And he's like, yeah, I'll give it to Reagan, and just straight up walked off with the cash and didn't give him shit. So his whole thing was just being like, yo, I can get you here, and that was his money-making scheme.

And so now that was his whole idea with Trump was like, okay, I owe this Russian oligarcharch like 20 million dollars that i stole from him and that was his whole thing was like he didn't tell trump that no no no this is his internal monologue as he's like yeah you know i'm i'm doing great and i can like get you in the right doors and you know he's a wheeler dealer he had a big name um we talked before about how when they were talking about his money laundering, they said that he laundered money through – I think it was like $300,000 worth of suits or something. And that's not that far-fetched because that was his thing was getting fancy suits. Money laundering really is an art. Yeah. I do not have the creativity to come up with enough ways to move my although my bitcoin poker scheme is right

right i mean i think it's a long article it has everything from like crazy arms deals that go south to uh him trying to like launder reputations for dictators and and murderous fucking it's wild just look at the whole thing and when you get to the point of when he meets trump he's like look he's broke as fuck but he realizes trump is he meets Trump, he's like, look, he's broke as fuck, but he realizes Trump is also cheap. So if he goes like, Hey,

I'll work for you with for free. Trump is going to be like, Oh, this dude's rich. He doesn't need money. I'm gonna bring him on team Trump. Yeah. And that's how he gets in.

And the way he even gets there, he calls Tom Barrick and he's like, I need to get to Donald Trump. And that's how I got there. So it gives you another dimension where you thought Paul Manafort was just like some doofy dude. And you're like, oh, homie was straight evil. Well, it's also just like double grifters or triple grifter. Like I grifters grifting other grifters.

Yeah. It's like, right. There's going to grift. Are you on a, they're on a pyramid scheme of who is like, they're just passing around the same briefcase full of money at this point right they have to be yeah yeah it's a it was a dream team of sort of incompetent crookedness i mean they all had to go in every single person in the trump administration went in with the plan of let's shoot the moon right let's do everything everyone is going to fail so hard that we're going to win right and

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from the Russian perspective, because they already have Carter Page and all these people that they have my influence with mike flynn uh you know real in deep with the trump campaign and then trump's like and guess who our campaign manager is yeah all fucking man the man who made victory yanukovych right do you think there are like two different teams at the fsb just playing like fantasy chaos league against each other and they're just like i don't know all my chips because it's got to be fun for them he must have blew up that grid though and like and enter new player manafort they're like oh shit yeah that means yeah someone had a thousand and

one bet on that that came in with man right yeah it's. Oh, it's so dope. All right, so we do want to- Love you, DSF, FFB. We do want to talk about The State of the Union was last night. Did you guys watch it? Oh, yeah. I watched it on the equivalent of Vine. Right, yeah. Whatever. So that's two minute long clips.

Yeah, or less. Stills, some stills, some people, you know, some now this montages right right right yeah the closest we got to getting a consequential policy statement was actually after the speech uh when trump was walking out so uh sarah sanders had said yesterday that trump wasn't planning on releasing the memo but then a republican politician was like hey you're gonna release that memo and he was like oh 100 100 uh so that was only because i think they specifically said like they were not going to be introducing any new policy in this state of the union it was all about just sort of riffing on the existing stuff yeah otherwise uh i don't know i i

personally find and this isn't just a trump thing, State of the Union time while watching the State of the Union passes slower than any time I've experienced since I was in church hungover as a kid. Damn, as a kid? Or, well, you know. I was thinking nine-year-old hungover Jack. The answer to that question is a hard yesyear-old hungover jack the answer to that question is a hard yes jack was hungover at his confirmation right uh so it was the third longest state of the union ever oh he's not like that daniel van kirk uh yesterday we were talking about the over under he thought it was going to be the under an hour, which is where the Vegas line put it. I gave a hard over and it ended up being the third longest ever, an hour and a half, which is, I mean, I have the advantage of having talked about this before on the Daily Zeitgeist and knowing that dictators give long speeches. Stalin and Castro were like notorious for giving like three to four

hour State of the Union or the equivalent of State of the Union speeches and those are the people Trump wants to be so of course he's going to go long. He also like his teleprompter voice is like so slow. Yeah well there's two versions right? There's Trump

who's putting in effort to read yeah sound like he's a good reader in class yeah like he's good at pretending like those are him that's just him talking yep and then what i like to call trump jazz is when he goes off the sheet music and starts improvising and that's when the shit gets good that's when the most wild shit comes out and that's what you know because you'll see him even like at rallies he'll transition you know when he's doing jazz because he's looking around he's saying real controversial shit and then you can tell they're probably like giving him like go back to the fucking prompter and then he'll like start talking again and just uh being very

you know presidential quote unquote uh but it was i mean the whole thing was fucking weird to me just because he was taking shots at many people uh and then it started off with like look at all the things that like the last president did to put the economy where it is now that i inherited and then that was not literally what he said yeah but essentially that's kind of what it was like oh i did this this and this and like yeah you inherited you're benefiting from a pattern that began years ago. Then we got into like I was like, when is it going to get dark? And then it did when he started talking about immigration. Yeah.

And brought out his fucking like freak show of exploiting victims of violence or whatever, like whether it was using the grieving families of those two women that were killed by MS-13 gang members and using them to be like – it was so disgusting to watch these families clearly just in so much pain because their children had been killed. For him to just be like, and that's what MS-13 does, and that's why we got to stop all this illegal immigration. It was like a dare class in that you point to the most extreme examples to try and scare kids off the ship. You smell weed? You smell this stuff? Yeah, you smell this. That's the worst smell you'll ever smell kid it'll make you crazy go crazy there's a guy i saw who jumped off his school building because he was high on this grass right that ends in like a heroin alley right exactly and that was like the equivalent of all these fear-mongering like

tactics it was wild the other thing too even with the one interesting thing was sort of like that he was starting to pivot with North Korea talking about like, oh, like they have nuclear weapons that we have to stop them. Like they're an aggressor nation that has to be in it. And now like using the like human rights context of being like having that amputee, having him there to sort of paint like how like this regime and like the human rights atrocities that are happening there. sort of paint like how like this regime and like the human rights atrocities that are happening there and even with like iran trying to like sort of frame that as like look at the people standing up we stand with you was kind of eerie because i'm like what are you trying to set up right now like that yeah that we have like the moral authority now to go like enter some kind of armed conflict with these well and the pitch ultimately is like you know these people suffer so much and there's nothing that dropping a nuclear bomb on them wouldn't help.

Right. I'm just like, what are you pitching? What are you going to do to these people? Yeah. That's the other. That's why it was so it's only just thought to that first moment. There's not much thought past that. Right.

Yeah. And I guess the idea is that because the human rights abuses are ongoing things, then it justifies sort of intervention rather than just, you know, responding. We will be greeted as liberator. Yeah, that always works. Right.

Uh, so I feel like the thing that kept popping up in my mind yesterday was sampling errors, which is, you know, where you look at one small sample and assume it's true of everything and everyone, uh, because that is, you know, where you look at one small sample and assume it's true of everything and everyone. Uh, because that's, you know, that's basically how advertising works.

That's how our like entire culture works. But, uh, they really leaned heavy on that. I think it's a state of the union thing to like have maybe a hero or two in the audience, but his was like a show and tell of like suffering and heroics. And it was like a menagerie of exploitable oddities. Right. And, you know, the MS-13 thing like big cities have seen a surge. New York Times op-ed where they were like pointing out how wrong that specific sort of illustration was. They said big cities have seen both a surge in the foreign-born population and a dramatic, indeed almost unbelievable, decline in violent crime. Yeah.

No, no, no, no. So they're seeing a surge in immigration and a decline in violent crime, doesn't like numbers don't fit within this narrative but it's you know but you need that immigrants are people who because he also said they take your jobs was also the other thing is like well these low-wage workers then brought in the killer immigrant argument is just well it's also like going back to the the um sampling size thing i think the other way i think you guys have talked about this – is like the idea that people respond to anecdotes more than data. Exactly. By so much.

So it's like – and you can't fight anecdotes with data. And in this case, you can't really fight anecdotes with other anecdotes. Like it's a pretty effective – Well, I mean unless you're like, like well look at this like dreamer you know if it's this immigrant came and killed these people then i guess the counterpoint is like some of the dreamers that were in houston who like selflessly went and rescued people and putting themselves in harm way to help other americans like that's a great example of you know but i guess yeah it doesn't hold up if you're just trying to yeah i it's weird like it's just fucking weird.

Like, it almost feels like the kind of thing that would resonate with Trump voters would be, like, dreamers who vote Republican and murder MS-13 members. That's the only thing that will work. Right. But it was weird. Like, every time, like, even when he was like, and look at this black man who has a job. Like, there was, like, a dude from from ohio who like worked for the other guy's company and trump was just like using it felt weird and i felt like a lot of those people who were using like as his examples of the good or the bad or whatever they looked really conflicted

when they had to stand almost like that they kind of knew that they were being like exploited yeah do you think they got told that they were gonna to have to stand? I don't know. There were some people who just looked – I mean I'm sure they knew. But like, yeah, I'm sure they didn't know that like I'm going to use you as an example to paint all immigrants as violent murderers. Like I don't know if it went that far versus like the president would really love to acknowledge your pain. Right. And then cut to him telling all this MS-13 shit and then being like, alright, now stand up. You know, and it's just, yeah, it felt odd at times. The other funny thing is like, with all the

human rights talk, the way they cheered for Gitmo, like the Guantanamo, when he brought up Guantanamo Bay, you thought fucking Tom Brady just walked in with a Super Bowl ring. They were like, like, what the fuck are you cheering Gitmo for? Like that. There was so much shit like that

that i just i it blew my mind that is the kind of odious shit that happens every state of the union right but i don't know about cheering like blown like this felt like overly aggressive for like i don't know if what they knew they were cheering for like because it just felt like the structure of the state of the union was like i'm gonna make a big point but like pause for applause point pause for applause and when he's talking about like basically saying like and we got to figure out how we question them yeah yeah of course but i just feel like if you're a member of congress or guest like you're just on a team right and there's no there's almost nothing that they could say on your team side that you wouldn't cheer for. Right. Right. Yeah. I guess at a point when you're like, oh, shit, I'm cheering.

What are you going to do? Stop. Like, just just kind of like slow clap out of it. Yeah. The focus on the reactions of Democrats like that actually seems to be a big part of the conservative media responses like uh drudge's headline like his main headline is trump shows heart 75 approve of speech uh but like all the headlines about the speech otherwise are you know black dem stone-faced reaction to news of low black unemployment which suggests that trump had just revealed to them right for the first time that black unemployment was low. And then Pelosi frowns at call for working together. So they're trying to portray and Fox News is doing the same thing, trying to portray Democrats and liberals as being unreasonable and not willing to work with Trump. I mean, big misstep on Pelosi's part in fighting MS-13 members as a guest.

I thought that was poor. And I thought her teardrop tattoo was a little overdone. Right. She didn't have to have MS-13 tattooed on her throat like that. I think it's a bad look. She did kill most people, though. She worked hard for that. She earned that spider web on her elbow.

She did her stretch at Pelican Bay. She did her stretch. She did her stretch at Pelican Bay. And just because this would be what Drudge and the right-wing media would be focusing on, if it were on the other foot, the ratings were down compared to Obama's first State of the Union. So, like, way down if you compare the two. Yeah. Well, it was funny because I knew so many people who were actively, like, aggressively trying to avoid it.

Yeah. And clearly, like, I wanted to, but we can can't because we gotta keep our finger on the pulse right uh so i had to grin and get through it but it was that pulse is pretty erratic these days yeah it's wild i think it's a there's heart palpitations for sure we may have afib right but yeah it was a wild ride and i just don't like you know the the fucking the chain migration thing like they need to stop with this chain migration shit. Where are you guys at with that rhetoric? I feel like we've lost. It's weaponized.

It's a battle. It should not be called chain migration. They need to stop doing that. Family reunification. Family reunification. It is a very important thing. Like, my grandmother was able to come here when my grandfather died in Japan because she was fucking, like, she was alone.

So we brought her over here. We were able to because it's about unifying the family rather than, like, leaving my grandma in Japan. And the idea that like this is like unlimited family members get in. Like it's not a promo at fucking Olive Garden where you're like unlimited lobster and family members get in free with chain migration. It's about people when they migrate here, you don't want to have them isolated because that's when they become vulnerable to extremism and shit like that. And if you have them there and you can maintain some kind of semblance of a family unit, that's good for everyone. Right. And I think to begin weaponizing this shit and basically turning this whole conversation to let's just end fucking legal migration in general.

Yeah. Right. Wild. Yeah. I mean, that's the crazy thing is just they seamlessly went from illegal immigration which they've been saying for years you know that's our main thing they're not following the come in the right way come in the right way and then suddenly just seamlessly shift to and we want to limit legal migration we want to like cut it by a third essentially what was also crazy was like even talking about the lottery that was so overly grossly mischaracterized on how that process works. It was just like lie after lie, which is why, because the visa and just like,

Oh, you reach your fucking hand in the bucket. And then this person comes like these people already, even to get in the program, you got to have a high school diploma and like work in a specific industry. Like they're already vetted. And then once you get picked, they will do a background check.

They'll interview you. And if they think you're a security risk, you even go through even more vetting. Yeah. So it was just like a lot of fucking lies. But, you know, we're not surprised. But it's also just like I think I talked about this one of the early times. It is the gish gallop.

It's just like you tell so many lies, like even what you're doing now. Right. It's like point by point refutation. It is just like it's exponential because it takes 10 sentences to refute a one or even two sentences right that's still exponential yeah and then you're just you're fucked because you sound like a person that's taking too long to explain something that thank you dr direct was able to say egghead yeah yeah um yeah plus there was that one uh guy who came over on the lottery who attacked people in New York, even though he was radical.

But the exception is the rule. Yeah, I'm actually reading this book on the second coming of the KKK. The KKK started in the aftermath of the Civil War, but then had a huge resurgence in the 1920s, which was a just crazy racist and anti-Semitic period in American history. Like it was when people were kind of on board with all the dictatorships and authoritarian movements going on in Europe. And there was something called the business plot where people like Henry Ford and like really powerful business people tried to overthrow the government that just people don't talk about because it's kind of a scary story

about how corporations can become so powerful and corrupt. But so this book about the second coming of the KKK, one of their main successes during that decade, and it lasted for 40 years, was immigration. Like, I hadn't realized that, like, so many of the talking points from them in the 1920s are, like, line up with what people were saying, up to and including the idea of they're asking for Nordic immigrants. They're like, we need more Nordic immigrants and need to cut down on all other types. They were actually mad about Irish and Italian at the time, too.

See, there's something to agree with on – you can find common ground with anyone. Yeah, fuck the Irish. Am I right? Potatoes, O'Brien? Yeah. Potatoes. You said potatoes before we started recording in a way that truly was like, okay. But yeah, I don't know. It's been a KKK talking point for almost 100 years.

Yeah. We're rebooting the 1920s. Yes. Just in time. Got to do the reboot. 20s is 20s. Well, yeah, with these tax cuts. Even though he was like, I gave the largest tax cut ever. It's like, well, no, he didn time. Got to do the reboot. 20s is 20s. Well, yeah, with these tax cuts, you know, even though he was like, I gave the largest tax cut ever. It's like, well, no, he didn't.

But we know who did and what that kicked off. The roaring 20s, baby. How did that end? Just kept roaring, right? Kept roaring on through to World War III. Right. So we're doing great. But the real highlight for me was the response at the end.

Yeah. Can we move on to the response? I'm sorry. I want to make sure. I want to make sure we're good. You watched somebody named Joseph Kekedy? I'm not familiar with the name. How do you say?

Kennedy? Yeah, Kennedy. This kid, Joe Kennedy III, apparently he's part of some uh sort of you know big big family dynasty of politicians oh kennedy that's kennedy that's right i haven't heard of them familiar now yeah so uh rfk's grandson young kennedy which is his new rapper name which i think is a dope that's actually that actually would be young kennedy is a young rapper and i'm gonna say that on twitter so uh don't steal that that could be my new aka but anyway young kennedy came out and he gave the response to the state of the union which is normally like the wackest shit.

Like you don't want to be the person giving the response because I think Bobby Jindal did it after Barack's first year in an empty ass hallway. And they're like, it was so transparent because he was like, well, here's our non-white guy talking. Right. Here's our colored. It looks like the effect of the speech was like they just told him moments before turning the camera on him that he had to do it because he was like so shook and just like yeah caught off guard i think did marco rubio do it one year he did with the dry ass mouth yeah he had a dry mouth yeah you could like hear him yeah but it is like a thing i right it's just

got to be they treat it as the minor leagues for right yeah they test you out they'll be like let's see how people respond to you let's see if they're picking up what you're putting down yeah and let me tell you joe kennedy fucking laid it the fuck down yeah i was so surprised at how well this dude like gave his speech yeah i mean again it could also be the effect of immediately following a fucking heaping trash fire that happened before in the in the form of the state of the union but i thought he was a really great speaker he came off very sincere the speech was very idealistic but i liked that it was definitely like left of center left too with some of his talking points which some like like liberal pundits after like i wish

she was a little more centrist it's like no no we're not winning with that kind of messaging uh talk that shit then he's like laying i wish people could see miles's face yeah i'm i'm like animated and i only had one cold brew today uh halfway through or towards the end and he's like to the dreamers straight up switches it to spanish on him and not in an awkward way like uh the vp candidate tim kane yeah it wasn always do it, and it sounded like he was your seventh grade Spanish teacher. Right. It was very, I don't know, labored. Yeah. No swag.

Not flavor. I mean, because Tim Kaine speaks great, perfect Spanish. Yeah. This dude just looked like he switches to Spanish in his day-to-day language. Yeah. He just came through. Sorry. And Sophie, who's sitting in for Super Producer Anna Hosnier, just wanted me to say a boner alert.

Oh, boner alert. Boner alert. He's so beautiful. Joe Kennedy, the third boner alert. He's got red hair, which is a thing she's into ever since the Weasleys. And he's got that Kennedy hair. But yeah, he is a good looking dude. He's a good looking dude.

When he switched to Spanish, though, I was impressed. Apparently he was working in the Dominican Republic, I think with the Peace Corps. So he's not just, you know, he's out there. He's putting good-looking dude. He's a good-looking dude. When he switched to Spanish, though, I was impressed. Apparently, he was working in the Dominican Republic, I think with the Peace Corps. So he's not just – he's out there. He's putting in some work. But it was refreshing to see someone be able to afford to get your education, not go broke from needing health care and things like that. And he did it in a way that was very Obama-esque. Like you could tell his favorite rapper was Barack Obama because his first mixtape sounds exactly like Barack Obama. But it was more the cadence.

It didn't feel like a blatant ripoff, but you knew he was looking at some tape. Right. And the way the media is covering this is drool gate they're being like ah it looked like maybe he had some spit on his lips or something um because i think he just over over chapsticked his lips he's probably a guy with chap chap lips all the time and then he probably went a little overboard with the chapstick yeah and his lips were a little probably went a little overboard with the chapstick. And his lips were a little bit smaller than the diameter of the chapstick.

So it got to the edges. He had some shiny shit going on around him. I feel like they were just really like, just don't have dry mouth, whatever you do. So they went the opposite direction. Right. Wet the shit. Yo, bring that baby oil over here.

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No. Yeah. No. Let's go to the – That needs to be – They need to have a section of the paper that is just that. Just like stunder drunk conversations like settling them. Turned into actual journalistic investigations.

Because that's something that I know to be true about myself. But like I definitely didn't know that you could statistically prove it. But like I'd definitely drive faster after seeing Fast and the Furious movies. Right. So they did an exhaustive search or like went through many speeding tickets, right? Right. They just looked at a single county, I believe, and just, you know, across time and did a really detailed statistical analysis of, you know, how much speeding tickets rose and what months after F.S. and the Furious movie came out. And people were more likely to get caught speeding near movie theaters also. And then they compared it with like Hunger Games release weekend.

No fluctuation in violations. Hunger Games had no fluctuation. So, yeah, I don't know. This is something that I've always thought was underrated. And I think I might think that because I am more affected by popular culture than other people. But just how influenced we are by popular culture, that seems to be a huge – You mean by the Daily Zeitgeist? Yeah, by the Daily Zeitgeist.

I've just thought it's underrated how we change minds. Every day, every day. And are creating new worlds we change hearts too no but like growing up i was one in the same always i would like find myself like talking like a movie character or something just because i don't know that's true yeah take it in when i was watching the sopranos a lot right i had this weird new york accent for like a couple months oh my god the week i got the mr show dvd set was by far my most insufferable there's no worse person than andrew the week after he watched all of mr show um yeah and i mean there's other examples like the whole thing with family being a big value with mafia people.

That was mostly started by the Godfather. And they incorporated that afterwards. But it was mostly prior to that. It was just like crime organizations like any other gang. It was just like the 40 Italians on your block. Right. Exactly. But not family dinners and all that.

Right. Right. Yeah. And the way they dressed was influenced by brando and another movie uh so it's i don't know i think that's an underrated thing do you guys ever do you feel like you've made any big life decisions based on what you're what you're watching man i think i don't know if it's what i'm watching maybe it is uh i really used to only exclusively smoke blunts because of wu-tang clan huh and seeing method man and red man and i'm like oh they're always okay smoke rolling up a backwood i don't know hip-hop definitely

changed altered a lot of my consumption habits from drugs and alcohol 100 yeah yeah by design i hope right that's why that's why they make the music. Right. Going back to the video game thing, actually, now that we're talking about it, the... Look, this is going to age me a little bit. But when my roommates were playing... When ColecoVision came out. When my roommates were playing a lot of Grand Theft Auto 3, it really desensitized me, not in the way that you would think to violence.

It really desensitized me to how allowed you are to just walk into traffic right like you just thought you could just like i would just kind of do it and it's kind of stare down cars being like the fuck you want and this is in new york i'll pull out a rocket launcher yeah a little more acceptable but it made you feel like you were invincible to cars or made me sorry made me feel like i was invincible to cars or made me feel like I was invincible to cars. It gave me the opposite effect of where I would be driving. I'm like, what if I just ran these people over like a GTA? Yeah. That's the New York Times next study that they need to do is whether in the aftermath of Grand Theft Auto game releases if like pedestrians getting hit like rises.

I bet it does. I don't know. But there was a study that said violent video games don't necessarily affect people's behavior towards violence, right? There have been a thousand studies

saying both. Yeah. Oh boy. I think the thing is it's more subtle than that, right? It's less like, oh, you think you can just beat people up.

But I do think there's like something akin to like they just, you know, you become less sensitized to how dangerous a car is right or maybe like you could you could do like research into like kind of disciplinary issues in a school on like either side of a video game release because you might walk in your class and just talk spicy to your teacher or like rough a kid up what's up

dog i just i'm high off this Vice City right now. Right. Yeah. I just like the idea of like, first of all, I'm just using this as poor man's copyright. I just really want to do someone to do a Purge movie that's just about tax fraud. But, you know, all crime is legal. Doesn't have to be violent crime. So just like tax amnesty? Or whatever. I don't know. Like if you if you file insider

trading if you follow your fraud file your fraudulent taxes on purge day what happens right it's a great idea i made nothing this year i just i just think there's room for a comedy in that universe that's all but second of all i'm like i see it's like like or with the hunger games example like it's not like oh people are out shooting arrows because the hunger games example like it's not like oh people are out shooting arrows because the hunger games thing is out but like do people have a different like relationship to authority or or whatever like how does that it's the power of the media y'all i wish someone had studied this yeah oh well oh yeah i wonder if bow hunting increases after hunger games yeah or winter's bone well my friends my friend's kid is all about Kung Fu

Because of Ninjago Oh, interesting Bringing it full circle Yeah, and I do feel like movies Despite the fact that they're supposedly made by liberals In, you know, Hollyweird In urban places They, like The Hunger Games

A writer at Cracked, cracked David Wong talked about how, uh, like the values in our movies are all like pro rural people, like people out in the sticks and like anti people in cities. Like, uh, for instance, in the hunger games, the Capitol, everyone's like a elaborately dressed like weirdo or in star Wars. Like, you know, the, the Empire is the city, and then Luke the hero is out in the rural areas. And our producer, Sophie Lichterman, has just shown me that, yes, in fact, there was a huge

rise in girls bow hunting, or learning how to shoot arrows and archery back when Hunger Games happened. Makes sense. There's always a huge spike in clownfish after a Nemo movie. People have to... I think owls. There was a huge owl epidemic after

Harry Potter and people were like... The wildlife people were like, guys, stop. This is a fucking bird on a prey. Yeah. This is a terrible idea. Um, but yeah,

that, that is always problematic after a kid's movie comes out with an adorable animal. Andrew, it's been a pleasure having you. Thank you. Uh, where can people find you?

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We were on Yozisracist. You guys should check out that episode too. In fact, only listen to that episode. No. Let's run up the numbers on that one. You just had Jamie Loftus on there. Yeah.

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She's wild. She's great. She's the best. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.

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