The Daily Zeitgeist - The Last Trendtation of Jesus Geist 5/29: TACO Trades, Mike White, 'Survivor', John Mulaney, Robot Kickboxers, 2025 Cheese Rolling Race
Episode Date: May 29, 2025In this edition of the The Last Trendtation of Jesus Christ, Jack and Miles discuss TACO (Trump Always Chickens Out) trades, Mike White love of 'Survivor', John Mulaney vs. 3 teenage boys, a new, shit...tier version of Battle Bots, whether or not that guy from the cheese rolling video is okay and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I saw that string of trending AKAs.
Scorchesi?
Yeah, they were different Scorchezzi movies.
And Cheyamalan.
Oh, I even fucked up on that.
Oh, shit.
Great.
Shit.
Scorchezzi.
So people who call him Marty, you know they're friends.
And then people who call him Scorchezzi, you know they're complete assholes.
My name is Jack.
That over there is miles. These are some of the things that are trending on this Thursday, May 29th.
Taco trades.
Hey, that's fun.
Trump taco trades.
Yeah.
I mean, he has one of the best taco bowls in all the world.
Talk about a bowl.
I go about a trade.
So a reporter was brave.
Yesterday. Yeah. Yeah.
A couple of days back, a reporter was like, sir, what do
you say to the fact that like just coming in full?
Just yeah, just acting like they didn't know this was about
to blow up. So what do you say to the fact that Wall Street
traders are calling them taco trades as in Trump always
chickens out and he was like as in Trump always chickens out.
And he was like, oh, I chicken out.
Isn't that nice?
Isn't that like he tried to like keep us cool, but like just he was
fucking couldn't.
He turned into Joe Bluth.
Talk about like getting getting like goaded by the chicken thing. Oh,
like it's some Booth family shit where they're like, I'm no fucking chick. I'm not stop the chicken. Yeah.
Isn't that nice? I've never heard that.
Okay. Well, I know this country was stone cold dead.
Just saying the wildest shit.
You're killing me. Now is dead. We had a dead country.
We had a country that people didn't think it was going to survive.
All right. So he said that in three different ways.
And you ask a nasty question like that.
It's called negotiation. Oh wow.
It was like love the level of like this would make sense as a transcript of like
when a baseball manager is shouting at the umpire and you're like, Oh,
I know they're not making any sense. Like they're just shout,
like just pure anger and absolutely no logic or thought being put into it.
Yeah, you ask a nasty question like that. It's called negotiation. You call that chickening out.
Yeah, yeah, we do because basically you said it was going to be this thing and then we caught you pump faking.
So yeah, we call that chickening out.
Don't ever say what you said because that's a nasty question.
Okay, drunk stepmom, what is that shit?
You've got a nasty mouth on you.
You're lucky I don't tell your father.
He'd have you in military school in no time.
Okay, yeah, this is all happening while,
that was the first L, then he took another L
when the courts are like, yeah bro,
you can't just be blanket canceling visas like that
for a school, it doesn't work like that.
Then a US trade court blocked the tariffs because they're like, dude, there are like actual legal
ways to do it. And you chose the illegal way to do it. Like there are ways you could enact tariffs,
but you went in the completely wrong way that there is no legal standing here for any of this.
So therefore, sorry, that you're going to have to appeal this.
And that's exactly what they're going to do.
They're going to keep appealing it.
We'll see if, you know, John Roberts does them another solid.
I don't know.
We'll see how open they are to that, but he's definitely pissed off the free
market libertarians with like, with all the tariff.
Shit.
This is it.
This is it.
My, my watch asshole.
I can ignore the white supremacy and racism as long as I get my free, free, free trade.
What have we seen so far in the like showdown between him and the courts?
I feel like we've got some, he's taken some L's and he's gotten some dubs.
Yeah.
Oh, totally, totally, totally, totally.
But I think now it's, they're basically grumbling and dragging their feet in other instances
and abiding in other instances.
I think they're, I feel like their next task is to really try and sour the court of public
opinion and the pun is intended there on what the courts do.
Because all they're doing now is like rhetorically, they keep hammering this thing.
It's like, there's activist judges,
the judges are doing this, the courts are,
they're holding back the agenda to hopefully try
and gain enough, I think probably, you know,
the wins that they're back to really begin completely
thwarting all legal decisions.
So, I mean, not to say that they're abiding
by every single thing, but they know that it's
harder when a court does, you say like, what the fuck you talking about?
Right.
Like you haven't even started the beginning of an argument for doing what you're saying
that you can do here.
Yeah.
I mean, like you can just tell by how Caroline Levitt is like just absolutely freaking out
like at all these press briefings now.
And she's done, you know, she's just saying like,
just these activist courts, you know, we're gonna win.
Like the president absolutely has this authority.
And obviously she's doing this because she's a reflection
of whatever Trump is feeling because he watches Fox
and he's like, go do the thing, perform.
Yes, good job.
Swish, we nailed it.
Swish, but yeah. Who do you think you are? I am. That was the energy of the press perform. Yes. Good job. Swish. We nailed it. Swish. Who do you think you are?
I am. That was the energy of the press conference. Your nasty little mouth. You think you are?
That's what I am. I'm the one who, yeah, you're faced. So you are a taco? Oh yeah. A big taco.
Yeah. It'll be, it's, it'll be interesting. It's not going to be interesting. It's not gonna be interesting.
It's gonna be boring and terrifying at the same time.
Yeah, but again, just like his first administration,
it's like he has too many sycophants around him
and he's too bad at everything he does.
That even this thing, it's like,
even all the articles are like,
there are ways the president can circumvent
the power of Congress to set tariffs,
like in these narrow ways,
but he just wanted it so he can set arbitrary numbers
to try and shock the world.
Because like, if he did it legally,
he would only been able to do something at most 50%
for like 130 days or 150 days.
And he wanted to be able to come out there and be like,
nah, 160, 145, 200%
to try and scare people.
And now everyone's just laughing.
So anyways, he's not backing down.
He just changes his mind completely all the time.
Yeah. But Donnie, please just use this as a way to take the L
okay. And stop talking about it.
And then you can blame the courts forever, babe.
That doesn't have to be your own ineptitude.
Does feel weird. Like it feels like this person was put there by somebody who really wants
the tariffs, you know, to be like, is it true that they're calling you a chicken? Bok, bok,
bok.
To try and get him to do it. Yeah. Yeah.
Because my thing is like, don't say that shit. He'll fucking probably, he'll. Yeah. His ego
is so fragile. You can see him being very rash.
Yeah, I mean, it's like the headlines about like,
actually Biden was meaner to immigrants.
Biden arrested more immigrants in the US.
It's like, shut the fuck up.
Oh, well, don't worry, Stephen Miller has already,
there's a report about Stephen Miller screaming at ICE
and Homeland Security people, ripping their heads off,
saying you need to be arresting 3000 people a day.
And if you can't, you'll get fired.
And apparently Kristi Noem, there's like a good cop, bad cop thing where then Kristi
Noem addresses immediately after and takes a softer tone.
It's like, okay, so let's try and brutalize only 3000 people.
Okay, hon.
All right.
Where's my gun?
All right.
Are you a survivor fan?
Have you ever gotten into survivor?
Yeah, I love that Destiny's Child tracks, Destiny's Child track for sure. Where's my gun? All right. Are you a survivor fan? Have you ever gotten into survivor?
Yeah, I love that Destiny's Child tracks,
the Destiny's Child track for sure.
Cool.
All right.
Just wanted to check.
So there's a TV show based on that.
So.
Oh.
No, I'm not.
It's funny.
I know people who are all in on the survivor.
It's become a thing.
Like a lot of people swear by it.
Like they rewatched it during the pandemic.
I know Matt and Bowen on Lost Culturistas really love it.
I mean, I gotta say, I do get a lot of increased cred
when I drop that little factoid about your in-laws
being on Survivor.
Yeah, my sister-in-law.
Shout out to Becky Lee on Survivor.
That was the race war season?
The race war.
That was. Not hurt, not by design, but yeah.
She's like, I just thought it was a bad survivor.
I'm sure that's why they, I'm sure it didn't hurt that it was the race war season and therefore
they had to hit a quota of Korean or Asian Americans.
Right, right.
So however she got in, she came in third overall. of Korean or Asian-Americans.
So, however she got in, she came in third overall. Damn, no, yeah, everybody remembers that.
I was like, I don't know,
do y'all remember the race war season?
Do y'all remember Beck?
They're like, yes, of course.
Yeah, so, yeah, that's my homeboy sister-in-law.
I watched the hell out of that season
because my wife was also the family member
who came out and did the family challenge.
Wow.
Uh, did it so badly.
They suck so hard.
We had like a watch party.
I was like, Oh, everybody watch.
Here we go.
Their intellects, their intellects.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. But anyways, uh Survivor apparently, you know,
has its diehards and they are coming up
on their 50th season somehow.
Like I don't understand how TV seasons work, but.
I mean, Jack, what are we on?
What season are we on right now?
That's right, yeah.
I'm one to talk about arbitrary seasons.
Yeah, cause when was that?
2000, right? That was that? 2000, right?
That was the year 2000, season one.
The year 2000.
Yeah.
Also that track, so what, two years?
The first episode premiered after the Super Bowl
in the winter of 2000, that's right.
It says May 31st, 2000.
Really?
The premiere, the first episode premiered?
I thought for sure it happened at the end
of the Super Bowl.
No, not saying, whatever, this is all very confusing.
No, the episode guide here says May 31st, 2000,
season one, episode one, The Marooning.
God damn, I was way off.
I for sure thought that I watched that after the Super Bowl
in my freshman year of college,
but I was drunk for an entire year.
So I should not be trusted.
Anyways, one of the seasons was themed,
not race wars, but was themed,
oh yeah, maybe I was thinking of Family Guy.
I was just, Family Guy at that time
was such an event for me
that I was like the Super Bowl family
guy.
It was right after it was on after family guy.
You got to see this cartoon man.
The baby talks like a genius.
Holy shit.
Anyways, one of the seasons that wasn't a race where season was David versus Goliath and Mike White,
the writer of School of Rock, Orange County,
one of Miles's favorites,
and also White Lotus more recently, was on one side,
I'm assuming he was a Goliath, like,
because he was successful.
Oh, is that because not in stature?
Yeah, definitely not.
Yeah, I'm sure it wasn't just like,
we've got people who are like five five
and then people who are six three.
For a physical competition show?
Yeah, deal with it.
But anyways, he came in second on his season
and apparently ever since has been just texting
Jeff Probst, being like, hey man,, I want to play again. Hey, could
you get me back on survivor? He's like, we don't really do that. He's like, anytime you
do like a, you know, returning great season, I'd love to come back. Please let me come
back. He's like, aren't you busy writing the white Lotus? He's like, look, quote, he said,
quote, look, I'm serious. If you ever do anything where you have returning players, I want to
play again. Wow. So we're happy to have Mike because for the 50th they're having like a
Greatest hits so some of the best players when a white celebrity says look I'm serious look
I'm serious. Holy shit some any way time it honestly anyone says look on a text message. I'd be like, oh
This white guy's serious this guy's serious. Look, I'd be like, oh, this white guy is serious.
This guy's serious. Look, I'm not Josh. And I want to be on the next survivor.
Get me there. Was he, and so he came in second. So he has some, so he knows how to play the game. Uh,
the other thing people are pointing out is like on the one hand,
you'd be like, everyone would just be like,
he doesn't need the million dollars and like vote his ass off right away.
On the other hand, he is like all these people want to be famous and stay famous and like
have media careers.
Like all the people who show up on survivor, not all of them, but a lot of them.
And he has cast like there've been several former survivor contestants on the white lotus.
Really?
Yeah. So he's been like playing this long game where he's like,
I'm just saying you guys, you make an alliance with me.
I will make you an actor.
Like background or people with significant role?
I have, I mean, I didn't know anybody.
I didn't think anyone on White Lotus was from survivor, but.
I don't think major roles.
I don't think it's like, but I think like beyond background.
Right, right, right.
To like be like, here's your towel.
Yeah, exactly.
So people are thinking he was playing the long game
and this might.
Yeah, just go do that, man.
Cause honestly this last season wasn't that great.
So, you know.
Go do that, hire a writer's room. Hire a writer's room and just a little,
just a smidge of seasoning in that writer's room. I have a homie who teaches a writing course
at one of the colleges here in LA. I won't add him, but he does a TV writing class and
for the past like three semesters for their class project. They've just written different seasons of the White Lotus.
Like just like basically create a writer's room and just like,
that's like one of the projects that they do.
And he's like told me what happens in the seasons and they're like better,
better than everything that happened in season three. Like just,
just call it like undergrads,
like college undergrads who just like have
diverse life experiences and are driven. Yeah. Oh man. Yeah. Ah, make one of those coward.
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And we're back. We're back. And John Mulaney did fight three, this is an update on a previous story.
John Mulaney fought three teenage boys,
not in the disastrous way, like at a mall,
or like we thought that,
do you see the clip of the guy who looked like
Bill Simmons fighting somebody at a pickleball court?
Oh, yes I did, I did.
Yeah, yeah.
And his explanation for why it couldn't have been him was I would
never wear a green shirt. It was like such, such a bad alibi that I was like, wait, was it him?
Like I don't think it was him. But then like after he said that, I was like, oh wait, did he
actually do it? Um, but anyways, this was all part of, you know, the long running debate of one gorilla versus 100 humans. And he was like,
how many children would it take? He settled on three 14 year olds, I believe was the age.
The betting markets were about whether or not he would, this was what was happening
on Polymarket. Will John Mulaney actually fight children
was something that you could gamble on.
And it was at 55%, I think,
55% chance that he would fight children
heading into the finale.
He did fight the children.
They were dressed in suits.
The thing, and this is what we should have known.
They went in, they said there are certain rules
like no punching or harmful hits.
That's not fighting.
That is not a fight.
That's weird.
Then what are y'all doing?
This is in the context of a conversation
where we were, like it materially changed my position
when I was like, oh, you could just go for the eyes.
Yeah, oh, you ripped their eyeballs out. Yeah could just go for the eyes. Yeah
Eyes and like the soft parts. Yeah. Yeah. I that's not a fight a lot I've I haven't seen it yet, but someone the descriptions of it were like whoa. That was the weirdest shit I ever saw
Like the show is intentionally weird. Oh in a lot of places, but this seemed like people were like, I don't even like feel good
after watching that.
So you beat the shit out of him?
No, he actually got fucked. He got beat up. The kids just like took him down and then like,
it's kind of a thing that we talked about in the one gorilla versus 100 humans is just like, that's
like more than two opponents.
You're really dealing with a lot like they,
so they just basically tripped him and then once he was down,
they just like used their collective mass.
Like a 14 year old boy weighs over a hundred pounds.
You've got like 300 pounds on top of you and then just kind of,
um, smashed him until he submitted.
Hmm. Well, John, you fought valiantly, it sounds like.
Yeah. Man, fucking three 14 year olds come at me.
The first one is going to be the example to the other two.
I don't want to say, bro, if you if Netflix, if you want,
if you want someone with no shame
and has had a tough year and might need to get some stuff out,
put me in the ring. OK, put me in the ring, okay?
Put me in the ring.
That is probably what Netflix is looking for right now,
to be honest.
Oh, I just got a thing on-
We need something who's got nothing.
We need someone who's got nothing.
Casting notice.
We're looking for people who lost their homes in the fire.
Oh, really, for a documentary?
It's called Fire Fight. Of sorts.
Of sorts, of sorts.
You okay with fighting five 14 year olds?
Who lost their home in a fire.
Who also lost their home.
Oh my God.
That is pretty, we're close to that too.
Fred Armisen, who I guess was on the show.
I didn't watch this season for some reason, even though I really loved the first season.
Maybe I'll go back and watch it.
I guess Carl Tartt was somehow involved because after the fight,
they cut to bone thugs in harmony.
I guess the show had tried to hire bone thugs at a harmony and they got duped.
Yeah, they got duped. They got scammed by somebody who was like messy group,
man. Cause there's so much in fighting there. Like there are people who would
claim they're like, Oh, I'm the manager. Like, no, you're not. You were the manager.
Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
He tapped out and bone thugs in harmony featuring Carl Tartt heralded their
triumph in song. That song was of course the crossroads.
One of my favorite songs of all time.
That definitely still probably holds the record for the most times I've listened
to a song in like a 72 hour period.
I burnt that fucking Cussingle to the ground. probably holds the record for the most times I've listened to a song in like a 72 hour period I
Burned that fucking ksingle to the ground damn my uncle
My uncle Charles y'all
Hey speaking of combat sports what's going on with the
What's going on with these things you watch? Did you watch the video? No. Did you watch the video? Uh-uh. Watch this video.
So look, when America was riding high, we were making robots destroy each other on TV
for our entertainment.
That's the true mark of a healthy society, yes.
It's that you get so bored of doing violence
on living things that the next best thing is robots
to just obliterate each other.
These motherfuckers go out there wobbly as hell. Yeah. So in China, they just had,
we talked about the Chinese robot marathon where most of the robots,
like fucking heads just fell off while running. Well, they just put on the world's first robot
kickboxing tournament and these things fucking stink at fighting.
And these things fucking stink at fighting. Okay.
Once again, any humanoid robot.
Yeah.
They just can't do it.
They're doing the weakest punches.
They cannot stand up, they can't walk.
I'll fight a hundred of these motherfuckers.
Oh yeah.
They don't have fingers.
They got little orb fists that can barely punch.
But yeah, this is like this whole tournament
that they had to sort of basically obviously put,
this is obviously like a promotion
for their robotics industry
and they use this to get like increased attention.
But apparently these robots,
it's the first humanoid robot kickboxing competition.
They're very clear to be like,
these humanoids that are integrating artificial intelligence
to not be able to fight each other.
They were just controlled by by humans on the side.
And a knockout was if the robot couldn't get itself up
after eight seconds.
They look, they go out, when they're like,
okay, everybody take your corners and fight,
as they're coming together to fight,
they look like anytime you see a boxer
who's out on his feet. Punched drunk?
Yeah, who's out on his feet and is about to just like fall through
the ropes. Yeah. That's what they go into the fight looking like. I will.
The way the robots try and gather their balance after being knocked back is
funny because it does look like a human being like, Whoa, it is human. It's not
like a weird fourth leg shoots out. It's like, we're stabilizer now.
It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Thank God for the ropes.
Kind of giving miles in a Ralph's parking lot vibes.
Oh yeah, but without sticking the landing.
You know what I mean?
Without sticking the landing.
Anyway, it's a fun video to watch.
They just look so interesting that they can't,
because we've seen the terrifying robot dogs and stuff like that.
But walking onto two legs is like what it's, it almost makes me be like, why do we do it?
Because it seems so hard.
Once you see how hard it is to build a robot, like it's, it really gives me an appreciation for the human foot.
like it's, it really gives me an appreciation for the human foot because like, holy shit, the amount of work that that is doing for us that we're not even aware of is pretty,
pretty impressive.
Cause these things are just going out there on fucking crutches and it's, it's nasty.
I will say the, the kicks, the form of the moves were pretty good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I was actually impressed with that.
It's, yeah, it's just, like it's close enough,
it's kind of the uncanny valley thing
where it's like close enough that it's still,
like it's funny when they fuck up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it's not as bad as like when they would be like,
and we have the first humanoid robot
and it like can't get up two steps
and it's just like,
oh damn, you guys are way far away from what I was expecting.
Right.
This is way off.
And finally, there's this cheese rolling video that is just the gnar, like I don't, we haven't
talked about it yet because it, look, it feels like you're watching a snuff film.
I feel like a lot of everybody I talked to has seen it though.
So I do just- And they're like, oh, everyone's reactions. Oh no, no, no.
Yeah. It's so why he just like flipped three times in the air.
Like if you've never seen the cheese rolling event, people, the Gloucester cheese,
yeah, the Gloucester cheese rolling event.
It's been going on for like hundreds of years and people rolled,
like they roll a big wheel,
not that big though, like a big, you know,
up to your knee sized wheel of cheese down a hill
and then everybody chases it
and whoever gets it first is the winner.
And there's a person who's out front,
like probably the fourth person down the hill
who hits a bump and just goes flying.
The first one you can tell the guy was like embracing
cause all the time, like I've seen docu,
wasn't there the Netflix documentary
that was like called like the best, remember?
And there's the woman who was always sending it
down the hill and she was like, I don't give a fuck.
And they all talk about how it's like,
when you try and recover, that's how you hurt yourself.
You kind of gotta let the hill take you, baby.
And at one point you can tell he's like,
one would just be like, fuck it, bro,
I'm ragdolling down here.
But then when he goes head over heels,
he hits the back of his head so hard,
instantly locks up into a fencer's position.
Like goes rigid and I was like, oh, no, no, no.
We've been trying to like find out what happened and it seems like nobody has died
because the whole thing on that event is like, and believe it or not, nobody has ever died.
And it seems like there's still have that record. I think two people were taken to the hospital.
Ah, here we go. Hello magazine from the UK, innit?
Two people were taken to hospital in honor of how people in the UK after doing some quick maths.
A man described by onlookers as quote, flying, dashing after a roll of cheese,
with social media, but is he okay? Where is he? Oh, it said flying man was treated on the scene
and appeared his injuries weren't too serious. That's what I love about the
Brits. Hardy people, hardy people, just sending it down a hill and fucking smacking your head on the
fucking ground and you're like, yeah, let's walk it off. Yeah. We were like, I mean, that looks fatal.
And Brian Medditor said, where was that? And we said, Gloucester. And he said, oh no, he's fine.
And we said, Gloucester, and he said, oh no, he's fine. He's fine.
But yeah, apparently he walked away.
Treated on the scene and walked away.
Can't imagine what that did to his brain.
I just love the way people say,
one festival goer told Hello,
it looked like he flew purposefully,
but actually not at all.
He was down with the first aid for a while and then stood up and walked
and then was taking an ambulance, but they didn't have the sirens.
They added, when we saw him, we thought, wow, this guy is a pro.
It felt so intentional.
And then one guy next to a showed his video in slow mo when we said, oh yeah, no, no,
no, quite shocking.
Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Quite shocking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He sent it.
Don't run down any steep hills this weekend, everybody. Um, yeah. No, no, no, no. Quite shocking. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He sent it. Don't run down any steep hills this weekend, everybody.
Yeah. Unless your name is Raggedy Ann or Raggedy Andy.
Even so. I mean, this gives me concerns about even Raggedy.
Even so. Even so.
Don't send it down. Blast her hip.
She's run. OK. All right.
The show is weird. We got to do it. Back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Yeah.
Get your vaccines where you still can.
Get your flu shots.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
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