The Daily Zeitgeist - The Legal Smeagol 1/16: Mean Girls, Lindsay Lohan, Emmy Awards, EGOT, Republican Primary, Trump

Episode Date: January 16, 2024

In this edition of The Legal Smeagol, Jack and Miles discuss…the success of the new Mean Girls musical (and why Lindsay Lohan is pissed), the 2023 Emmys finally happening… in 2024 (and who got EGOT), Trump winning the Iowa primary, and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this week trend long week trend trending episode of i am jack that is miles yeah you just fucking blew my mind man what just told me that the there was one guy who was in all those interstitials yeah those interludes yeah yeah okay i'm reloaded you motherfuckers think you're big time fucking with jay-z you're gonna die big time here comes the pain exactly i i assumed because the impression isn't quite there i assumed it was jay-z doing a voice yeah yeah yeah no it's this other dude i forgot he has a nickname and everything but if you watch the backstage documentary that was about

the hard knock life rough riders tour he's like he was on the road with them and like he when he starts talking like you're like, oh shit, that's him. Because you hear it immediately. Jay-Z is not known as a master of disguise, I would say. He's got one way of delivering shit. Well, this is the episode where we tell you what is trending, what was trending over the week,

and what happened over the week. First, we check in with ourselves with one another by telling you some stuff we think is overrated underrated yes should we start with underrated sure sure all right so i had uh for my underrated how much our day-to-day busyness is designed to uh distract us from death. Notice that over the break? That I was like, man, I am really scared of death when I don't have a show to record every day.

That's why we do so many. Our existential dread is the thing that powers. Just trying to keep that void at bay. Yeah, man, we're trying to do like, let's do like four episodes a fucking day, dude. guys want to do that void at bay yeah man we're trying to do like maybe let's fuck it let's do like four episodes a fucking day dude you want to do like a midnight update because that's when the thoughts come yeah so i might as well jack you want to hop on mic real quick talk about four in the morning yeah hey hey miles what are you doing here yeah it's like our ads but you really are there now.

Yeah. So I don't know what more on this to come. I'm reading Denial of Death, the 1970s kind of existential psychology book, because that's, I think, the best way. Otherwise, I'm just going gonna go down there i'm gonna push that fear down and it's gonna like come out as some who knows what yeah some weird podcast some weird uh nosebleed uh blood coming out of my ear um and then i just you know so yeah

uh instead of that i'll say the hotness of the door lean. Wow. Did you see this friend? Yeah, that's what, that's what I'm talking about. Dudes are hot when they lean on a door, according to people on Twitter. Um, have you seen, did you, I linked through cause, uh, Jason, uh, frequent guest, Jason Pargin, uh, tweet. I just saw a thread asking, ladies, what's the sexiest, subtle thing a man can do?

And the first reply was doorframe lean, and another one was doorframe lean, and then there's all these pictures he links of just men leaning in a doorframe. Right. I mean, yeah. The door, I mean, look, it's's all i think leaning in general right like as i've learned from uh what's his what's the name the dude from dateline um keith morrison he's like because there's like a whole account that's called like keith leans on stuff

or keith leans on things because whenever he's doing shit on dateline like he had like this dude i think realizes that there's a secret to like the swag source code which is be like you'll lean on something when you're when you're fucking delivering a line like it just makes it so he's like leaning on door frames fucking refrigerators counters whatever so i think more than the door frame just the lean in general i think yes is a powerful uh i mean i just do it because i have poor core strength but yeah yeah i don't know you only work that one side of your house yeah i'm i'm pear-shaped but like a pear that is like chopped in half yeah right right exactly do so many side crunches to one side yeah uh but anyway so that's my underrated forget about forget uh let's mark and forget

about the thing about uh how I'm afraid of death I'm actually not afraid of death at all uh I think I laugh in the face of it who are you like trying to convince fucking Freddy Krueger or some shit myself yeah I'm actually not like afraid I'm very brave

um it turns out wait who killed you in your dreams Yeah, I'm actually not, like, afraid. I'm actually not afraid. I'm very brave. It turns out. Wait, who killed you in your dreams? Don't worry about that. That's not what I'm talking about. Well, that's a good segue because my underrated fucking dreams. Yeah. I keep having them. I keep having them.

them i keep having them i've been i've been trying to find this balance of like how much thc to dream ratio is like the right one and i'm i might just be i might be finding it but dude i had so fucking three dreams yesterday that i like remember very vividly one was like it was my last day in tokyo and i was gonna go take a walk and like because as a kid in japan i always used to have my headphones in and just like walk around and like do everything like that like because i was always solo dolo and i haven't been doing that since i've had like been in a relationship and going with her majesty and like showing her around and now with the geist child so i was like oh you know i need to do one like one little like nighttime fucking music headphone walk and then i decided I was like,

actually, I want to go to sleep. And then I was like, wait, I'm dreaming and I'm not in Japan. And the next one was, I went to a church for whatever reason, because it was like quiet.

And then I went in there, but somebody gave me like a Bible. I remember I had a Bible. Someone gave me. And then like, I went outside to like, look at my phone because for whatever reason, I didn't want to like disrespect the church by picking my phone and then i almost left but then i realized i had

my airpods in there and i went in there and then other people were in there and somebody tried to take my airpods and i had to get that shit back and then i left not one of the most vivid or you know i don't know if there's any meaning to that aside yeah maybe kind of uneventful keep my air pods on me at church and like there there were air pods in both of your uh dreams damn damn dude damn see this is what i have to keep i have to keep coming back here so i can protect myself from who is it freddie or who yeah it's freddie yeah yeah yeah yeah dream warrior he's gonna try to fucking take my air pods bro and i'm not having it yeah you gotta keep keep it on that guy um so yeah dreams anyway shout out to dreams shout out and shout out to like how much i realized before i'm like yeah whatever i don't dream or whatever but now that i'm having them again i'm like this is fucking wild and it's like

another trip to like a theme park or something during my sleep time it's one of the wildest that like i i kind of came into contact with how strange it is that we have dreams that we have like little brain movies yeah that are like works of art that are you know we i think we've talked about it because it like some people have like uh discovered inventions or had these breakthroughs on major scientific problems in their dreams, but via visual metaphor, which is so weird. It's like the brain works through these potent images, but just having kids and having them be like, wait, what the fuck is going on? I have a little weird, meaningful,

scary movies that happen in my brain when I go to sleep at night. And you're like, embrace them. Yeah. We, we talk a lot about, you know, yeah.

They like, before they go to bed, they want me to like help them pray for like good dreams and, oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. Which, which makes sense. You know, just tell them, you know, They want me to help them pray for good dreams. Oh, shit. Yeah. Which makes sense. Just tell them, you know, just fight Freddy, bro, if he's in there.

Don't be afraid. Fight Freddy, guys. Well, that first thing I showed them, because I want them to be aware of the dangers. What can go wrong. Exactly. I showed them the entire suite of Nightmare on Elm Street. Dad, will you pray with us so we we're not visited by freddy well i mean i don't know if that's gonna help you but i'm if that's what y'all want yes here's a little prayer for you uh one two freddy's coming for you

oh man uh all right and then something i find over overrated that I just discovered in the past week is a soulful reinterpretation of a pop song. This has been going on for a while now, a couple of weeks. My five-year-old's favorite song is Crazy, the Gnarls Barkley song. crazy the narls barkley song but like a soulful acoustic reinterpretation by like some just a man and his guitar kind of guy yeah like a little little guitar little piano um right each time he touches the piano keys you can tell he's like having like a little emotional orgasm. First of all, I don't know why my five-year-old... I'm like, this is the one that everybody likes. He's like, yeah, no, I don't like that. No, what is this?

He's just got the... He's got some angst that he's toying with. Damn. Maybe it's all those Freddy movies. Maybe it's all those conversations about death that I keep toying with. Damn. Maybe it's all those Freddie movies. Maybe it's all those conversations about death that I keep dropping on him. And the nightmares and shit.

He's like, and this is what I hear. It's just, you know, there are some slow, acoustic versions of pop songs

that work extremely well. Yeah. Like, Creep by Radiohead, you know, keep keep keep them coming baby like those those everlong dude acoustic oh yeah everlong's great but like the lyrics are crazy when like there's just this like white british dude yeah just low tempoing and just be like i was out of touch like just like feeling it yeah like it just

but it wasn't because i didn't know enough i just knew too much too much does that make me crazy bro yeah like right right possibly like it sounds better when it's we're bopping to it yeah it's when it's something like that it sounds like a fuck boy who calls himself a philosopher at heart you know i just like knew too much you know that's what's like but i don't know you think that makes me crazy probably i hope that you are having the time of your life but think twice that's my only advice wait your advice is just think twice come on now who do you who do you who do you who do you who do you oh man you really think you're in control this is a song for my ex anyway i think you're crazy

just like me there's also one of like hey yeah i guess had a bunch of these because i looked on reddit to see like what other people's examples of the worst ones are there's what they're like if you google hey acoustic there's like a couple white people sitting uh like sitting on a lake like right and just playing a like banjo acoustic guitar like eyebrows crinkled together version of hey uh that is giving me chills but not the kind they're looking for they're giving me the douche chills yeah yeah this is the thing that like i've definitely seen one where it was like a british woman english woman doing it and she's like my baby don't mess around because she loves me so and this i know for sure and i

was like this is haunting like if you were doing like a a fucked up slasher film that took place in atlanta like in the fucking aughts then yeah maybe maybe we can work maybe i can fucks with this but every other time i'm like it just i don't know gives it a whole other thing and some people like that for me i just hear the original too much and i'm like no no no no this is this is not what i i intend to listen to right now right the the original one just like feels so dead like the song feels like dash off and like he's like working through thoughts like it feels very stream of consciousness yeah and then to have someone sing it like it's a fucking like him in church is like yo what what are y'all doing Like, got it, don't just get it till there's nothing at all.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, no, that tracks. For me, overrated, I would say is nursery school. Because I have... So we dropped... All right, deep breath. The guy's child, he's had he just went to he's had his

first day of nursery school right now her majesty and i we dropped them off and like schools like usually you know since covid like we don't really let the parents in there like kind of like just trust us yeah good like if you want to like holler at them through the window you can do that we're like is there any way they're like okay if you want to, like, holler at them through the window, you can do that. We're like, is there any way? They're like, okay, if you want a COVID test right now. And we're like, yeah, fine, fine. We got them things on us. Watch this. And we went in, and it's just a surreal experience to go from, like, because he's not even a year old yet.

Yeah. But to see, like, just the passage of time vis-a-vis, like, these little benchmarks, these life events that he's having. vis-a-vis like these little benchmarks these life events that he's having and to me i'm like it hasn't even been fucking 12 months but there's already been so much that's happened and i get emotional and i get overcome with feelings and things like that and i'm honestly i'm in like pure i'm in utter shock like we just dropped him off like mere minute like minutes before i hopped on mike yeah and the whole time her majesty was like you know she was she was having her feelings up front and for me i was like i honestly look like one of these people who like walked out of a building that had just exploded and like they don't know what the fuck's going on yeah i'm like

thousand yards there yeah yeah yeah and now i'm like as i sit here and i'm like god like and are they gonna like the other kids gonna fuck with him because i saw one kid i didn't like but then i'm like and then you have to sort of interrogate those feelings like how am i starting to get like suspicious of other little kids because you have all these fucking funny ass feelings as a parent um and so anyway yeah i so i don't like when i'm uh put in touch with my emotions so i don't like what nursery school did for yeah today in that sense because it also reminded me of my mortality yeah quote chief keith thank you so much thank you um i should say that song is about um yeah about taking your kid to school the first time and it

just feels like yeah this is uh i mean it's like beautiful because on one hand you're like i know he's gonna get so much from socializing from like learning with other kids and things like that and then you kind of have to be like and this ain't about me or like being like but i want to feed him and hold him yeah um yeah and just trusting the the professionals that we entrust our children with every day that they know what they're doing yeah it's it's so hard also dealing with your feelings about other people's kids. That was like, I remember that becoming more of a thing. Like once they started being. I'm like, who's this guy? Who's this guy?

Who's this guy? What's this kid up to? I don't like that. I like his energy. He's got weird energy. Yeah. Was he going to teach my son how to play with a lighter? Because I wanted to be the one who showed him how to do that.

Yeah. Yeah. That's how I feel like when I watch kids sports. I said that the other day when, or not the other day, like a few months ago when I saw my nephew

playing Little League and I was like, almost like talk, like wanted to talk shit to like the batters he was up against like when he was pitching. I'm like,

you ain't got shit, homie. You ain't got shit, homie. But they're like 11. Like, relax, relax.

You don't have to be about it that much. It can't all be off speed pitches man get your speed up exactly yeah dealing with other people's kids is like one of those big big deep dark like issues because it's like wait they feel about their kids the way i feel about yeah right exactly my feelings which feel so unique and perfect and you know right right right and like you're telling me you're telling me the parents of this asshole love him like i love my kid right impossible probably that's uh yeah does that make me crazy possibly man i don't know doug i'm kind of a philosopher poet dude at the end of the

day yeah i'm a warrior philosopher poet oh wait and i wouldn't say king but leader in some like emotional sense that's right but yeah like fuck that kid yeah i'm angry at him all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And I tried to go pick him up. said i i should at least wait an hour he should at least be there an hour yeah uh the mile shape hole in the wall behind him just came back yeah with like the same like that typical uh cartoonish cut out of my arms doing like 90 degree angles um all right uh we've got another another like so we talked about this marketing trend that we saw heading into the holiday break which was musicals disguised as not musicals like trailers right or musicals that don't acknowledge that they're musicals um it was wonka it was the color purple and it was mean girls were the three

uh films where i had seen the trailer and only later found out that they were musicals um and they were all like huge hits right yeah uh so mean girls now uh was number one in the box office over the weekend it made 32 million dollars um over the long weekend it was originally supposed to go straight to streaming on paramount plus presumably after west side story bombed uh but was given a theatrical release due to enthusiastic test screenings oh yeah, I can see that. Yeah. I mean, maybe it's just, maybe people are like, yeah, the music just doesn't sell it. It's like a nice to have.

The nursery school just sent me a picture of him. Yes. On a swing. Oh, and he looks so happy. And he fucking loves it. Yeah. That's right. Gotta trust that.

Gotta trust that. Gotta trust that, you know, because it's not really about me. He's having a good time. Yeah. Anyway's right. Gotta trust that. Gotta trust that. Yeah. Gotta trust that, you know, because it's not really about me. Oh my God. He's having a good time. Yeah. Anyway, go on.

you know, that's the thing I was going to say. I hope you're having the time of your life. Just, uh, think twice. It's so predictable. And in the end,

it's right. Um, I can see like how the Mean Girls musical would work. Like that doesn't feel like for the, like for people like millennials of a certain age that tracks, like, I feel like the people who want to know who like fuck with Mean Girls heavy also aren't like me who are put off by musicals or like,

it's a very high barrier for entry for me to like a musical. Yeah. So I don't, yeah, I don't mind like one way or another and i think maybe that's just where they've like netted out is like people are like yeah if there's good songs but it's hard to get somebody on board with a song like in a trailer length ad you know so might as well just hold them out um and you know just get people excited about going to see

the movie and then the music if the music works it's a nice bonus yeah exactly but sad is that this wasn't a drama free event because i saw i saw the headline and now that i'm reading a little more i'm like oh this one because they're like lindsey loan was not pleased with some of the jokes. Yeah, Lindsay Lohan makes a cameo. Spoilers, guys. Spoilers. You can't say it after the spoiler. Lindsay Lohan. Surprise cameo.

Spoiler. When you least expect it, Lindsay Lohan's going to show up. You don't know in what context yet. Okay, fast forward if you don't want another kind of um all right and here it is she plays the moderator of the climactic math competition yes great great and at one point in the movie megan the stallion drops a reference to y2k fire crotch um says we're going back red y2k fire crotch is back um i'm assuming that makes sense within the context of the movie you know like it's one of those things i'm reading out

of context i'm like well that joke sucks yeah i'm like did they call her y2k fire i'm like i don't think that's a line from the first one no so i think it is a reference to there was this Brandon Davis oil air guy who's best friends with do you remember this asshole? yes it's from a public shaming of Lindsay Lohan

where it was like an early internet viral video Paris Hilton is seen audibly laughing as her friend Brandon Davis insults Lindsay Lohan to the paparazzi. He says, I think she's worth about $7 million,

which means she's really poor. It's disgusting. She lives in a motel. Then he said, who would want to fuck her? Then says she's a firecracker. Wow. That's very Y2K.

Very different time. Not that it was acceptable then, but like, holy shit. The fact that like this person was like, ew, she's poor. I'm a billionaire. And then like fucking body shamed her. I mean, I remember this guy had such villain face too yeah like he looked like billy zane like if billy zane had hair and then got like a bunch of plastic surgery yeah like he i remember like and he always had that like sheen of drug sweat on his

face too like wet hair like yeah wet face wet hair wet face yeah sweat uh yeah and just constant sneer constantly just like talking down his nose yeah people um but anyways he publicly apologized so all good there um no obviously just like a complete villain but so they made a reference to that which it doesn't it doesn't necessarily i don't know i i don't know what the intent of the joke is i haven't seen the movie but according to a representative of lindsey lohan she didn't know about the reference to the misogynistic attack until she was watching the movie at the premiere and was very hurt and disappointed yeah well so i wonder who yeah like it's interesting to know what the writers or writers were thinking with

that like were they just doing shorthand because like fire crotch was just a thing like millennials would say right in a pejorative sense and then they just added y2k or if they're like no you know what let's fucking hit her where it hurts remember brandon davis right like let's fucking let's give her the business on that one like by mean girls for mean girls yeah is what this movie is um yeah well hey look hopefully the shout out to the studio for just taking a taking a chance on some ip that's already proven to be successful and making a little bit of money off of that. It's crazy that we are in the era of IP's dead, now it's all original stuff. It's not a Mean Girls sequel.

Mean Girls the musical. Wow. So, yeah. Are y'all ready for fucking avengers endgame the puppet show because that shit is what they're gonna do that shit is even more mind-blowing when it's puppets and all practical effects god what if they do like okay all of the marvel movies but as musicals um oh who jack we met we met we might be on the precipice of something like that we're we're getting 1x multipliers on these other movies that are remade as uh Oh, Jack, we might be on the precipice of something like that.

We're getting 1x multipliers on these other movies that are remade as musicals. So why not? Why not try it with a movie that did a fucking straight billion dollars? Yeah. You know what? A worse if it does half make a bill. Come on, bro. Come on. Those shits are cheap.

I have to do that for you. Musical puppet show. The Emmy Awards were last night. We're so confused. are cheap as fuck. Do I have to do that for you? Musical puppet show. The Emmy Awards were last night were... So confused. Even more confusing than usual. They were technically the 2023 Emmys honoring shows released

between June 2022 and May 2023. So, for instance, The Bear won Best Comedy for its first season yeah i never understood that even though its second season has already aired um because the whole thing was delayed due to strikes so the voting for this round of awards actually ended last august oh shit okay so also game of thrones won for its third season somehow.

That was a wild one, dude. Succession won for Best Drama. Beef won for Best Limited Series. So does that mean they're promising no more beef? Do you have to swear an affidavit saying that like i will not yeah i don't go under oath and say i'm not gonna make another season of beef because we submitted in limited series um i don't know we'll see they won't unless they do beef the musical there you go and that and that does count as original work 100 100 uh Super producer Victor is letting us know you can repeat if it's an anthology.

An anthology series. Okay. Also like True Detective. Yes. Something we treat like that. Did you watch that? No, but I talked to somebody who watched it and said it was really good. So that's all I need is four more recommendations

and I'm going to be on board. I need to hit more recommendations And I'm gonna be on board I need to hit the tipping point which is around four to five people Whose opinions I usually respect on the matter And then be like alright alright alright Alright alright alright I'll get it Quinta Brunson became the first black actress To win best actress in a comedy series In more than four decades

Since Isabel Samford Won for the Jeffersons in 81 That Oh wow wow wow wow wow that's that's a long time that is a long time holy shit this nation has been crazy for the entirety of our lives it turns out better call saul uh kind of pulled off an impressive feat in that it lost in all categories. It was nominated in, um, meaning the show never won a single Emmy, even though it was nominated 53 times. That's fucked.

It is the most snubbed series in the history of Emmys, which feels appropriate. Like better call Saul is such a good show. And when you're watching it, you're like, God damn, this is good. I never can get excited about it when I'm not watching it. Sure, sure, sure. It's just like, yeah. For me, it's just so revealing.

It just put Odenkirk on this new level as a performer and I was like, oh shit, okay. It's not just funny ha-has with this guy. And he's doing it really well. But then the it all you know it's not just funny hahas with this guy and he's doing it really well but then like the emmys too it's like whatever you know i i get like obviously when you're nominated for these awards you'd like to win them but there's something for me personally like i like it was always confusing when the emmys were and i couldn't quite understand

what was up like what was eligible so i was like oh yeah so they won the little angel holding the sphere thing yeah okay cool i could i could never for my most of my adult life i've and this is something that i've only recently begun to be able to admit but i couldn't tell the difference between emmys and grammys i just had the hardest time i would confuse them um and i talked to my doctor about it and right oh you have emmy grammy blindness i do have emmy grammy blindness yeah and working so hard they're like what's this you're like that is a old timey record player okay good what's this my phone that's the only time i was able to figure it out was okay what's this angel holding sphere ball okay good good you're making progress you're making great progress but the second they make it a gold statuette they're like okay now

what's this again you're like it's a chicken legs chicken it's the grandma phone yeah yeah yeah grandma's phone that's right grandmother's phone my grandma phone uh on the bright side sir elton john he got it um his disney plus special elton john live farewell from dodger stadium um i would have thought they would have gone with like a goodbye yellow brick road reference there but farewell from Dodger Stadium. One, making him just the 19th person to EGOT. Congratulations to him. He unfortunately just had knee surgery and was unable to attend to receive his Emmy and traditional EGOT blood sacrifice.

A couple his Emmy and traditional EGOT blood sacrifice. So, you know, a couple lucky, innocent sacrifice victims, you know, were off the hook. Breathing a little easier last night. I'm trying to, wow, who's got people who are almost there? In the world of EGOT?

Like, Barbra Streisand has, like, a ceremonial EGOT. I'm trying to think. She would have been, like, the original EGOT? Barbara Streisand has a ceremonial EGOT. I'm trying to think. She would have been the original EGOT. Nah, man. The original EGOT was Richard Rogers. Okay. Then Alan Haynes, Rita Moreno.

I forgot fucking... That's right. Whoopi Goldberg EGOTed. Yeah. Whoopi Goldberg is one of the people who, if you asked me, name a person who is EGOTed, I think I would have named Whoopi Goldberg, he got it. Yeah, Whoopi Goldberg is one of the people who, if you asked me, name a person who has e-got it, I think I would have named Whoopi Goldberg. I think I would have said Alan Menken, probably. Oh, really? I don't know why, that guy's name sticks out in my head just so much. I think because his hands were all over those 80s and early and early 90s disney films that i actually like

remember the words to damn john legend i know so i know first of all john legend was only 39 at the when he completed it robert lopez composer whose work I'm not familiar with, won it at 39, youngest ever, I guess. Pretty impressive. I'm assuming he's one of the Lopez brothers, like Robert, Robin, and Brooke from the NBA. Yeah, exactly. Who's close?

Okay, without an Emmy, Henry Fonda didn't have an Emmy and could have got it. Oh, yeah, it's interesting to see how many people are super close. A lot of people. Edging. He got edging. Yeah. We see you, Vanessa Redgrave. We see you, Al Pacino.

He just needs a Grammy, man. Just get this fucking guy. Yeah, just nonstop. needs a grammy man just get this fucking guy yeah just non-stop he just needs to be reading books on tape from now until he gets his because he would kill a book on tape right and that that you can get a grammy for that can't you yeah yeah that or alternately he should be doing the intros on rap albums like of movies. When people... Don't give it to that other guy. Do it yourself.

Oh man, if Adele won a Tony, she could fucking EGOT. So she just needs to get on stage. She just needs that stage award. And the Oscar section, if James Earl Jones won it, he would have an EGOT. He hasn't won an Oscar? No.

Either it's fucking hugh jackman man well the world's fucking upside down what's also funny too is trey parker and matt stone are also an oscar away from me you got oh then an oscar away yeah yeah they'll never get it they'll never get it too funny not after that acid trip on the red carpet. They won't. Hugh Jackman-man is my favorite DC superhero. Hugh Jackman-man? Hugh Jackman-man. All right.

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Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back we're back and do you think that trump would exchange all of his political power and success for an egot i feel like he would if we could like somehow convince him it was real you have to convince him that people who get egots can have like absolute legal immunity from everything right that's true that's really it because he's like smiegel yeah you know what i mean he needs the ring and the ring is i need fucking i need a way out of my fucking legal problem legal smiegel yeah yeah legal smiegel one of my favorite 80s

um so yeah we could convince him that the egot was like the ring then yeah maybe it is so we we had a feeling he was gonna win Something about it. I don't know what it was. It's this feeling that he might do it. He got 51% of the vote. Won by the largest margin since Bob Dole in 1988. Maybe bigger than Bob Dole in 1988. Wow. It's looking like it's the largest ever margin in Iowa caucus history, surpassing the previous record of 12.8 percentage points for Bob Dole.

More than double what he got in Iowa in 2016 when he won 24% of the vote, finishing second behind Ted Cruz. And so the DeSantis campaign, like... This is great. I read this as being like, you know, my first on first encountering their complaints. I was like, yeah, well, he's a loser. It was a fucking loser complaints are great bullshit. They were like the project. They projected this like 30 minutes after the caucuses began. And, you know, I don't know after the caucuses began. Right. And you know,

I don't know what a caucus is necessarily. I think we've covered it on the show before, but like, I don't remember that shit. Um, but it's something that is like fluid where isn't it like kind of a ongoing evolving situation. Yeah.

evolving situation yeah so for them to call it right away based on like a set number of votes they were like this feels unfair like it kind of is tantamount to election interference uh which you know probably like he was gonna say some shit like that regardless but it's it is weird oh you know what it is actually this is the reason we were talking about the democratic caucusing in iowa which is the one where motherfuckers are like moving around and like trying to convince each other like yo come over here be buddha judge you're like come over here right there it just it just like voting oh it is it's a secret ballot yeah yeah yeah so it's less of yeah like i'm the thing that we have in the front of our mind was iowa caucuses as related to the democrats because we were more interested in like what the fuck was going on there and that

is the one where it's more fluid and there's people like trying to convince people to join the other groups um yeah so i'm that's probably why and also i mean i don't know i feel like everybody probably anybody who saw this shit coming was like yeah why are you even okay yeah go ahead though vote and i yeah well it's gonna be trump but yes let's see let's see by how much yeah it's all it is just i don't know it's another moment to be like we probably shouldn't have a media spectacle around elections like we probably it probably should not be the media's fucking super bowl which it is well yeah like and it's a race to see who can call it first well it loses all its meaning too like right when it becomes a horse race then rather than thinking of like what is the future of your nation from a policy or you know whatever perspective you're like i don't know it's a fucking horse race and they're like oh yeah

right what that's right these people aren't the horses they're horses that have to like create laws and enact bills that will keep us safe or if you let horses do they probably do a better job you know yeah probably oning around. That's already going on. I don't know. Am I right? Horses and clowns. But yeah, I don't know. Other countries have media blackouts around elections. It feels like we have basically the exact opposite.

Whatever media blackout around elections trying to achieve, they were like, no, we're actually going for that. That's actually what we're going for. They're like, bro, have you seen how much Walmart will throw down if I tell them I'm doing wall-to-wall horse racing? Political horse race? It's fucking wild. Okay? I could have nine Tucker Carlsons, and I would still have plenty of ad revenue. Yeah.

Just by turning this thing into an all-you-can-eat ad buffet. Yeah. Just a big Pepsi Coke display in the grocery store. I'm surprised they don't brand the fuck... How far off are we from the fucking Pepsi-Cola Republican primary?

Yeah. I think the rise of fascism is probably going to hurt that a little bit, but it did feel inevitable at a certain point. Yeah. They'll find a way. They'll find a way to kind of do this new version. But, I mean, it was the AP, CNN, they all called it early after analyzing early results from eight Iowa counties.

But that's voter interference. Following the results, Vivek Ramaswamy dropped out of the race and into the race to be trump's vp uh he was not gonna happen i'm out but i really love trump and i'm gonna endorse him sir god leader king yeah i mean he he had a wild weekend too because first he was like he was talking fucking shit about trump to like one of these voters and trump was like what the he's like, he was talking fucking shit about Trump to like one of these voters.

And Trump was like, what the? He's like, you know, he's, he's injured, man. He's limping. He's like, I'll be able to take this thing over the line. He didn't realize that shit was like being recorded. Oh. And then Trump was like, he's like, do not vote for him. He's a phony.

A vote for him is not MAGA, does not help me, blah, blah, blah. And then he was like, please, bro, don't fucking vaporize me. He even went on Fox and Friends and like, Deucey was like please bro don't fucking vaporize me he even went on fox and friends and like doocy was like yo bro why did he fucking throw you under the bus like that and brahmsar was like well you know i actually don't think he threw me under the bus he's like he threw you under the entire bus and the bus had snow tires and he was like well you know like he couldn't really hem and haw his way out of that one um and yeah now he's he's calling it quits shame that yeah you pander to white supremacy and it it still didn't work for

you it still didn't work somehow even steve king the one of the most despicable members of congress he fucking was backing your shit it still didn't work Vivek. Hate to see it play out the same way every time. Nikki Haley came in third, close third to Ron DeSantis, and is basically saying this means it's a two-party, a two-candidate race. It's basically like DeSantis is done, which it'll be more interesting.

She really kind of put her energy into New Hampshire, it feels like. And DeSantis put his energy into Iowa. And the fact that they were as close as they were in Iowa suggests that maybe it's time for Ronnie boy. Ronnie. People. Bob. People.

What was it? Rob. To drop off. And I don't know. What was it, Rob? To drop off. And I don't know. Somebody, I'm assuming somebody's going to stick around just in case the Supreme Court makes a ruling on this bitch.

Oh, yeah. Well, and also, too, there are reports that, and it's hard for me to believe because it's all polling, that you know i i don't and it's hard for me to believe because it's all polling but there there seems to be like a solid number of republicans who are like yeah the the trial like his like legal shit could actually affect him negatively so we'll see but i'm like y'all are just saying that because at the end of the day it like it's all about the vengeance like sort of narrative with trump is like coming fucking back and showing everybody it's nothing to do with his legal jeopardy, or you're probably just smart enough to know that you want to come off as somebody who's rational.

Um, but yeah, yeah. It's, but then when it comes to the voting, uh, is not going to be for Trump for Trump. Yeah.

And you know, poor Rob DeSantis though, too. I mean, not when we fuck him, but like it, they, this is like a really interesting study in how the donor class was like, Rob is our fucking guy.

Yeah. The guy who eats pudding with no spoon and his straight fingies. That's our guy. Because they're like, and as we were even looking, too, we're like, he's, like, kind of understands legislation better than Trump. And like, that was like seen as a strength for a lot of these donors, but without realizing that, like it was,

it wasn't about these voters wanting like someone who's like, we need Trump, but more effective. It's like, they just wanted Trump no matter what. Yeah. And it didn't bother them that he was bumbling, even as he tried to like dismantle so many different parts of our government.

Um, so there's Ron out there and I think the clock is ticking. They're like, when are you gonna, when are you going to drop out, bro, bro spent a lot of money on those boots and private jets. What's going on?

Greatest lifts. The money can buy. Yeah. I don't even think they were the best that money could buy. Sadly, there were some, um, like media. I did a report where they asked Trump supporters that money could buy sadly There were some Like media I did a report

Where they asked Trump supporters in Iowa Like so Are you okay with Like you saw that he said he was going to be a Dictator and they're like and that's what America needs Is a dictator which like That does seem to be a Point that has been lost on a lot

Of mainstream media outlets up to Now that like the dictatorship is the point uh for a lot of trump supporters they're just you know which i don't know i don't agree with it but i also understand the logic of them seeing a country where the president is like i don't know i can't my hands are tied man i can't do anything um yeah and it's like you're somebody who's like you go to jail now motherfucker like yeah yeah exactly that's what they want that's what's yeah that's a 2024 y'all what a what an awful what a sweaty time we're gonna have at the ballot box because it's really like and it's really philosophically like i i keep like sort of

interrogating this in my mind and trying to understand like what what's at stake really here and it's like yeah there's there is one one party is absolutely trying to be like we want to go backwards so far so fast it'll make your fucking head spin yes and then as much as i i'm like the fuck but i'm like where we're at is so bad like we need to move forward it's like then there's this other the democrats are like well we don't want to go backwards per se right obviously back don't want to go backwards per se is better but i'm i fuck i think that's the thing that i have so much trouble with is like i hate that those are the options um oh the options are bad and and a lie in me aluren was saying something really interesting you should check out our youtube show

about just sort of like because we're in this such as fraught space of like there are people who are like just don't fucking vote man at fucking all like fuck it all man yeah and there are people who are like vote blue no matter who and i think there's also there's like also this space too where people are like i don't support joe biden but also a vote isn't necessarily like you expressing your entire political philosophy but as a tool to at least figure out what you're trying to see happen with this situation in its current form um and yeah it's that that's why it makes it very difficult because like there's so many things to it especially with like people of color and younger people who are like slowly like moving away from biden or at least in the polling is showing that like

the enthusiasm just not there is like just this feeling of like we can be doing somewhat like can you at least lie better like right can you can i at least get that out of you are you really just gonna fucking ignore everything and be like like what y'all gonna do like let trump come in uh which i think is a very dangerous game for democrats too like and it's for all the all these hand-wringing sort of op-eds I read about, like, what the Democrats, like, are doing right, but no one understands, or, like, these questions

about, like, what can they be doing better? It's like, man, you really gotta fucking meet people where they're at to start it off. Like, the whole democracy thing is so abstract

to people, like, because not everybody's a high-information voter. A lot of work to do so it's going to be a real my nails are already fully bitten off there you go january so have you gotten to the cuticles yet those are yummy the delicious little cutes so the flavor is that dude that's where all the good stuff is uh all right those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday, January 16th.

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