The Daily Zeitgeist - The Most Overrated Things of 2018

Episode Date: December 26, 2018

In this Overrated holiday extravaganza, Jack and Miles and joined by comedian and Reality Bytes podcast co-host Sofiya Alexandra and super producer Anna Hossnieh to discuss all the overrated aspects of the 2018 year.  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. And this is where I would do an AK, but you know what? AKs are overrated. Yeah, they're overrated. No, maybe they are. I don't know. Guys, overrated is having an opinion. I don't know.

You tell me. But yeah, we're looking back at the year. Many things happened. A lot of things entered our consciousness. A lot of things popped. A lot of things entered our consciousness. A lot of things popped. A lot of things did not. And we're here to just give a couple of our observations on maybe some things that happened this year that are just overrated in our estimation. Overrated in 2018.

Yeah. We are thrilled to be joined by one of our comedians, Sophia Alexandra. Thank you for having me. Bless you. Sophia, we felt like. It's so good. It's been so long, you guys. I you for having me. Bless you. Sophia, we felt like... It's so good. It's been so long, you guys. I know, I know.

We felt like you were the perfect person. You just, you bring that attitude. You're the perfect person to tell the world what was overrated in 2018. Suck it, world. There we go. Get ready, world. That's the attitude I like.

The Russian judge gives it negative money. Yeah, but say that in Russian. How do you say, I don't like this in Russian? But like, do it real... Мне это не нравится. Yeah, but say that in Russian. How do you say it? I don't like this in Russian, but like do a real. Oh, hell yeah. That's legit. That didn't sound like fake Russian at all. You speak Russian? I do.

Wow, that's tight. That was badass. I know. Anna's looking at me like, what the fuck is she Russian? I'm like, I know. It's called a joke. She's like, I don't understand your opposite humor. Yeah.

No, she's Russian. Saying things that are not the case. All right, guys,. It's called a joke. She's like, I don't understand your opposite humor. Yeah. You know she's Russian. Saying things that are not the case? All right, guys. Let's just get into this. All right, guys. Russians, overrated? I mean, how could we be? No, you can't be.

You're perfectly rated as the greatest people. I think so. All right. I have a dumb one that I could start with. Oh, you want to start? Okay. Everyone open your private little notebooks. Okay.

Open your scrolls. Unfurl your scroll. Okay, hear ye, hear ye, Jack. What sayeth thou? Christmas songs from before 1960 that aren't Run, Rudolph, Run by Chuck Berry. Wow. Very specific.

Very specific. Wait, Christmas songs before 1960 that aren't Run, Rudolph Rudolph Run by Chuck Berry. Just like all the Sinatra stuff and the Nat King Cole, Bing Crosby, Corning shit. That's the best part of Christmas, you monster. You can keep all that shit. Oh, shit, man. What about when Nat King Cole sings O Tenenbaum in Bloody German?

Yeah. Yeah. It's just- I'm shocked. I'm appalled. You got Nick on his feet in the booth. He got up and did grumpy eyes. He just threw something at the glass.

Wait, so what is it about the crooning? You know, just corny? It's just boring at this point. Yeah. What's an exciting Christmas song, Jack? Run, Rudolph, Run by Chuck Berry. Yeah, that's a fun one. That's the only one.

No. No, and then there's a lot of good ones from after 1960. I feel like that's when... You have a weird cutoff point. Yes. It's just like all that big band swelling strings. I've been describing it. It sounds good. Yeah.

Wait, so what's the – I think we talked about it, but what was your perfect Christmas song? Oh, I forget. We'll go with Run, Rudolph, Run. That's all I have written down here. Is there something about that song though? Run Rudolph Run that really sticks to you? it just has energy

well the others are more like reverent yeah oh Tannenbaum oh Tannenbaum you should be drinking alone in the darkness while your candles burn down to those final minutes and you're just like,

what a year. It just doesn't feel like they add that much. And I don't know. That cut off for me. Okay. Well, that's for you. These are just tastes. These aren't truths. All we got is a dreidel song, so I'm all about all the Christmas songs. Well, I mean, Sharon Jones has some good Hanukkah songs

in her holiday album. I was surprised how many Jewish cuts were on that one. Hanukkah tracks by Sharon Jones. I did not know that was a thing. Yeah, check out the Sharon Jones Christmas album. Yeah, and I just feel like everything. It's such a nostalgic time, and I think that's why Star Wars movies that come out at this time tend to do better,

is because we're just in the mood for nostalgia. Right. Yeah, hardcore regression. But nobody would listen to those songs if it weren't for nostalgia. It's funny. That's how I feel about like so many movies. Yeah.

Sorry, Star Wars. Sorry. What? What about you, Sophia? Hit us with a take Sophia Mispronouncing my name Jokingly overrated Overrated, okay That was a joke

No, I have a Christmas overrated Oh It is fake trees Because everyone who's buying a fake tree Thinks they're better for the environment And there was a video That I made sure to repost Multiple times last year

To show By a big Christmas tree? Yes To show that actually And there was a video that I made sure to repost multiple times last year. By a big Christmas tree? Yes. To show that actually they are worse for the environment than buying a regular tree made of tree. So suck it. Oh, because of all the plastic involved in the manufacturing process versus just watering this ting? That takes seven years, but that takes seven years of watering. Right? Or 10 years, right?

Like Christmas tree that you buy is typically 10 years old. Okay, Miles, I'm telling you. Okay, my bad. That the fake trees are overrated. Well, you know what? I don't like fake trees because they don't smell good. No, they smell like garbage. They don't look real.

No, I mean, some look real from afar for sure. Yeah, but then you get close and you're like, okay. But I also get the, I mean, personally, I agree with you. But then I also see when I have a real tree, when you have to take that shit out and all the needles are fucking everywhere. That's why my husband hates it. But it makes me way too fucking happy. Yeah, to have that scent. I love the scent. I love picking too fucking happy. Yeah. To have that scent. I love the scent.

I love picking out the tree. Yeah. Like the actual like process. Right. You're all looking at them and you're like, which is the one for my house? Yeah. I think that's real nice. And I like it.

Okay. Oh, and by the way, if you're like, why is this Jew get a Christmas tree? In Russia, you celebrate New Year's and you get a tree and it's a New Year's tree. Oh, for real? Is it the same kind of style? Yeah, it's basically a secular version of Christmas because of communism. Right. So we have like a religious Christmas Christmas that's according to the Russian Orthodox calendar.

And then there's New Year's, which is non-denominational and for everybody. And there's no Saint Nick. There's Grandfather Frost. Oh, really? And he brings gifts for everybody. Oh, shit. On New Year's? And there's no St. Nick. There's Grandfather Frost. Oh, really? And he brings gifts for everybody. Oh, shit. And there's no coal. You just get gifts.

Yeah, because you don't waste coal in Russia because that's power. Exactly. You've got to keep the furnaces burning. You know it. Wait, so is Russian New Year's Lidi? It's the 31st. We celebrate it on New Year's.

And then on the 1st, is New Year's Day a big thing too? Yeah. But New Year's Eve is like our thing. It's like there's all day on TV is like a concert and like comics and like a whole big thing. Like when I was a little kid, I was just trying to stay up to like midnight to see all the comedians because, you know, I never made it. Who's your favorite Russian comedian? Well, there's jirinovsky oh yeah classic you know you know miles i don't have to tell you i love that one bit he got about how people drive wrong about the difference between russians and ukrainians yeah so classic uh my overrated is Meghan Markle. Oh, shit.

I don't understand what all, I mean, I get everybody's so obsessed with her, but, you know, she's just a regular person. And it's not overrated coming from a place of I don't think she has value. I'm more, this is more like, yo, y'all obsession is overrated. Y'all need to leave it alone. We get it, American princess. But when I look, again, a lot of mine are based off of what a lot of people were searching on google this year to kind of get an idea of like what's hot in people's

minds yes and she was i mean i get it everyone's fantasy is to be married to the royal family my fantasy is also to be married to prince harry we have the exact same birthday i don't want to tell him that when i meet him and hopefully that would be our meet cute. But fine. Meghan Markle, do your thing, ma. I like you personally. I just feel like the obsession with it is starting to wear very thin. Because I think we've had too many royal weddings and royal births in the last few years that I'm like, yeah, I'm done. I'm done. That's my two cents.

Yeah. And we've had a story on the document that just for the past couple weeks, that just hasn't been important enough for us to mention, but that Meghan Markle has gone through aides and assistants pretty quickly. She's burning through them because she is mean to them or difficult to work with. But do you think they treat her shitty because she's like the first black princess? Maybe. Oh, dude.

Could you imagine her own assistance? Be like, whatever. Excuse me, brutes. We need to get out. British people are weird about the royalty. That's why I'm like, are they all quitting? Because they're like shitty to her. And then she's like, I'm not going to take that.

I'm Meghan Markle. And they're like, you're difficult. Right. I don't know. I don't know why I have Meghan Markle's back on this. Yeah. She's my princess. Yeah, I don't know.

It's always hard to know when people leave a job. You only know the version of the person who's left. You can never really juxtapose. Because I'm sure if you went, Meghan, what happened? They're like, she was slipping. Right. She left a bottle of bleach in a water bottle that she was cleaning with. I almost drank that shit and I'm pregnant.

So I had to fire her. That's a good ass reason to fire somebody. But then the assistant is like, man, fuck out of here. Megan's full of shit, blah, blah, blah. It's like, what happened? She threw a phone at my head. Yeah. Well, we'll see.

But yeah, I mean, again, Megan Margo, love to you. You know, we'll see. But yeah, I mean, again, Megan Margo, love to you. You know, Southern California, represent. But I think the world needs to fall back a little bit. Let her live because they clearly don't want to be in the spotlight. Right. Okay. I see the appeal, though. That's fine.

Somebody, an American princess, like, yeah, I don't know. Because everybody was so obsessed with Kate back when she married Wills. Yeah, again, this isn't an indictment. And if you think it's, I don't care if you like Meghan Markle. I'm just saying for me personally. I'm just saying Logan Paul was the most searched actor on Google's lists. What? And you chose Meghan Markle.

So that means by extension, by the transitive property, you approve Logan Paul. I'm a fucking Logan head or whatever. Paulyak or whatever the fuck they're called. I mean, but he's perfectly rated. Everyone knows he fucking sucks. Yeah. And that's just search traffic based on his dumb ass fans who love his dumb fuckery. But also maybe people Googling about that Japanese suicide forest thing right and just and finding

it being like that's hilarious that's crazy they did find a body uh all right uh the one that i wanted to talk about my next overrated for 2018 is the agency or like autonomy of anyone on the internet, like we're basically all here at the mercy of like, if Apple stopped carrying our podcast tomorrow, we'd be fucked. We wouldn't have a podcast. Yep, I'll be back doing stuff. Miles will be podcasting door to door, okay?

The old fashioned way. Hi, can I tell you about the news? Like, what the fuck? Hey, you want to hear what's underrated? Who are you? Sir, this is a McDonald's. There were a couple moments where internet celebrities came up against the limit of their appeal. Like, Alex Jones got kicked off of a bunch of platforms.

Right. And the day after he got kicked off, he was reporting that his traffic had gone up. And that was sort of where the story ended. People stopped giving a shit about him because everybody forgot that he existed because traffic has just plummeted to his site. InfoWars had a daily average of nearly 1.4 million visits to its website before he was deplatformed. And now it's down to about 700,000. So it's basically dropped by almost a half. That's awesome. It is awesome. But then there are also weird ways that Twitter, like it's awesome until it's being

used on people who aren't complete lunatics. No, for sure. It's only awesome in his case. people who aren't complete lunatics. So I just think that our existence as people who work online, which is basically everyone who works in culture, is more precarious

than we give it credit for. Yeah. Well, shit, what do we do, man? Yeah. You guys want to stop this podcast right now? Yeah. I have for one existential dilemma now. well shit what do we do man yeah you guys want to stop this podcast right now yeah should we stop should we go home no I

I for one existential dilemma now love Apple Apple's the best I for one bow to our overlord thank you Apple Sophia we're gonna

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And as promised, Sophia, we are ready for your next overrated of 2018. Wow, no pressure, huh? You really like set it up for it to be something great. Get ready world. Anna looks like she's about ready to fall asleep on this computer.

And I feel like it's a testament to my overrated. How dare you? Wow. Thank you. You think she's commenting with her body language? She was really signaling. Trust me. If her commentary actually translated to the podcast, we would not have a podcast anymore.

Because every time I do anything, she rolls her eyes and puts her head in her hands. Just shakes her head like this fucking idiot. And then Jack says, we'll take a break and goes to the bathroom for 10 minutes. Yes. But he says, I don't know. Anyway, go on. What was your thing? Just to give myself a pep talk. Yeah, yeah. Go, Sophia. With the shower on. Yes. But he says it's, I don't know. Anyway, go on. What was your thing? Just to give myself a pep talk.

Yeah, yeah. Go, Sophia. With the shower on. Okay. My overrated is, shit, I just forgot it, you guys. Come back to me. Okay.

Okay, pass. Panna Hosnier, what is something that is overrated in your estimation this year? Thank you. I've been waiting all year to say this, but adults watching Riverdale, you need to move on. There's better TV out there. Jesus Christ, people.

Teens murder each other? Sure, they do it all over the place, but we don't need to watch it in blue globe lighting. Okay, I'm sorry. I'm out. Please don't at me. I can't stand it. Where was that energy when Sarah June was like, yo, I'll stand Riverdale. I don't really remember that too clearly

because it was towards the end of the episode. That's when I start to zone out a little. I think that was like the beginning of the episode. No memory. Yes. No, that's convenient. Almost every episode, a little peek behind the curtain of the Daily Zeitgeist is after almost every episode as we're leaving the studio.

And it says, wait, Miles, you didn't recommend a song to ride out on. Every single time, Miles has. I wish you could see the text exchange between Nick and I during the show. Wait, did they talk about that? And then Nick goes, well, look, between the two of us, one of us is paying attention. It's like, yeah yeah that's true i think nick's doing cat's cradle right now with some string trying to figure out how to do that um yeah i could never figure that out i have my overrated oh right thank god okay that weird thing where you get a couple's massage and then in the end they put your hands together and it's so gross

i'm sorry that is so specific. I know, I know. I woke up in the middle of the night to write this down. I've had couples massages and I've never had that happen. Oh my god, really? Yeah, I've had a couple. And they don't do that to you? Wait, so you're...

Miles and I are referring to couples massages that we've had together, so maybe they assumed it was just a podcast team building thing. Nah. Here's the thing. So I've done a couple's massage with a girlfriend before, like a friend who's a girl. What? And they did not put our hands together.

So I'm like, did you assume that two ladies can't be gay together? And then whenever I do it with my husband, they always do the creepy thing where they take your hands and they put them inside each other's hands and I'm always like ew why are you doing that because I now pronounce you right it's so bizarre so right because in the thing you guys are both face down on the massage table yes you don't know what's happening so what do they do so and part of it you just feel your arm being extended and And then suddenly they're like, you just feel your other partners like lotioned up greasy arm hand in your hand. You don't feel their arm, but yeah, their hand. They like, so, you know, your, your arms like next to you.

They kind of wing it, chicken wing it out. Yeah, they chicken wing it off the table. And then they put your person's hand in your hand. Ew. I like how specific that is. That's making me rethink all the other overrateds I'm going to do. Wow. That's creepy.

Well, we won't say where you go. Yeah. I don't care for that. Don't let, yeah. That's what's going to make you closer? I don't know what they're thinking. It's like, I feel like they're like, well, this was a right you've just both passed. Right.

I'm like, no, we just got a massage. After a massage, if anything, I don't want to talk. I don't even want to talk. No, you don't want to touch anybody. I just need to sit down and read or something. Yeah, you need to like massage. I don't know. You're all like zoned out in a nicest way.

It's like, now's not the time. Yeah. Okay. All right, Miles, what about you? Oh, okay. My overrated is Laurel or Yanni. What? And that whole shit this year.

Come on. Yeah, I got swept up in it. What'd you hear? Laurel. Okay. Yeah, I did not hear Yanni. I don't even understand how Laurel is possible. Right, and this is the thing.

That's the whole thing about it. But that's the- That's what's cool, man. That's why everybody's hooked, babe. They don't know what color the dress is. Is it Laurel or Yanni? Is it the other one that was like ice mountain? But the dress thing I could understand at least.

I do not understand the sound thing. Yeah. No, I... Like, I read the explanation of it too, the scientific one. They're like, here, we'll slow it down so you can hear it the other way or we'll speed it up or whatever. I'm like, okay, I still do not understand. Yeah.

No, and look, I'm guilty of hyping it up because we had to dissect it every which fucking way. But it's only one of those things after you come out of it, it's like JNCO jeans where you're like, what the fuck was I doing? Oh my God, I rocked those for so many years in high school. Did you?

Did you put your own patches on to kind of custom it out? No. Okay, well then let's not talk. I wore them with like really tiny Raver-like type tops that were like brightly colored vintage t-shirts kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like the million Raver bracelets.

All candied out. Yeah, yeah. Do some candy stepping, candy walking. Okay. I'll see you out there. Meet me after the show. No, because I have ecstasy. So, yeah.

Yul or Yanni, the whole like what are they saying thing just got – it's just one of those – I don't know. Again, I feel like we should be analyzing other things, but then again, if those things weren't around, what the fuck would we talk about on this show? I'm in a very terrible position. You know what I mean? Cause on one hand I'm,

I'm biting the hand that feeds. Yeah. I think it's underrated because as like, Oh, as internet, as internet obsessions go, it teaches us something about the subjectivity of human experience and As internet obsessions go, it teaches us something about the subjectivity of human experience and how we don't know what the fuck is actually happening.

We both rolled our eyes so hard right now. It's true. I only rolled my eyes because he dismantled my opinion on that. Jack, can I interrupt? This is not the underrated episode. Right. Oh, wow. So please keep your underrated tips.

Producer, producer, producer, producer. Sorry to be that producer. Keep producing. My bad, my bad. Soup Purdue. Yeah, again, I think I just don't like when the attention is not on me. That's what I realize.

I'm like, why y'all talking about Meghan Markle? Right. Why y'all talking about Laura Yanni? I have the same birthday as Prince Harry. So is your underrated just gonna be you? Oh my God, Miles Gray. Wait till the underrated episode. Jump the gun to the underrated episode. Yeah, no, wait till the underrated just gonna be you oh my god Lyle's great wait till the underrated episode

jump the gun to the underrated yeah no wait till the underrated it's all about me okay fine you want a real underrated

overrated that's hot yes the guy who held the flag in the Olympics the Tongan guy why are we still

talking about him we're not are we you are yeah I mean what is the obsession with him I get it

he was handsome I guess that was this year. No, it wasn't. It was 2016. No, no, no. But then he came back in 20... Didn't he come back in the Winter Olympics? Oh, for the Winter Olympics. Yeah, so this still holds. Yes. Another thing. Still a hot take. Pokemon Go. Yeah. I don't get it. Miles says the hottest

takes. Although I did see the guy... The hottest takes for 2018. There was a dude... Did you see the... I think it was a guy in Taiwan or China who had like the weird rack. So you can have like 19 phones on simultaneously to play Pokemon Go. Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah, I don't know.

Again, I just got off a time machine from 2015. So forgive me. What are you going to tell us about next, Pogs? Yeah. I think maybe Kofeifei. Stuff just gave me the alley-oop holding up that sign well really feifei yeah cofefe overrated overrated we talk about it too much yeah i i mean around the office that's all we talk about a lot of cofefe jokes a lot of cofefe what else we do uh a lot of hanging chadsanging chads. Hanging chads, those Salt Bae jokes, as you've heard. Salt Bae, I did in one of our episodes last week.

All right, I want to talk about how true crime is overrated. Wow. Did you not hear the amazing child murder thing I told you earlier? So that was actually a very interesting story. Yeah, when you were on the show, you discussed the child murderers that you Googled yes last week a long time ago long time ago but i just think we're i don't think it needs to stay overrated i just think in the entertainment industry and in the industry that we work in and podcasting it's just become like a just i don't know find a murder and try and solve it you're just rebooting crime yeah yeah exactly i mean cereal was good but like that that uh show evil

genius this year that was just like the story of a crime that i always found fascinating where the pizza delivery guy had the explosive around yeah but he was in on it right in on it. Right. I mean. Or maybe he wasn't. That shit was terrible, man. They did a really bad job with that, but it was just clearly like they wanted to get the story out there quickly and they, I don't know. It was no good. Making a murderer was not good in retrospect. And then they made a sequel about it.

I stopped watching Making a Murderer like in the middle. Yeah. Couldn't get with it. And it's just like, I don't know. The other thing that I learned this year was that Weimar Germany was obsessed with true crime also. And so that makes me feel even worse about what is already. Right.

Yeah. Which makes me feel even worse about what is already not a great thing to be into. And I like My Favorite Murder. I like Last Podcast on the left. But I think we have- True crime. is already like not a great thing to be into and like i i like my favorite murder i like last podcast on the left like but i think we have true crime i think we have our really good true crime podcasts and we we we've done enough of oh so you want to shut the gate on it yeah shut the gate yeah as i as my famous saying from this podcast uh and i think like in the in the world of documentary like wild wild country gave us a great direction forward in that it was true crime ish and that it was like about an

amazing event that involved crime but it's not like focused on like who done it or like the right gruesome details it was actually like just really well done like tone poem about what it was like at the time in that world and like it was just this whole world you didn't know existed like i i think that's i have a hard time with murder as entertainment like it's easy for me to look up past murder stuff when it's like a long time ago right like a really long time ago and then people who are surviving through that trauma or like yeah but to think of like oh no that there's a family that lost the person you're joking about or whatever. So that's the thing that bugs me a lot.

And also, I think I felt it a lot more acutely after. Have you read the book Ghetto Side ever? When David Sedaris was touring a couple of years ago, he always recommends a book for people to buy that's not his book at his readings. And that was one he recommended. recommends a book for people to buy that's not his book at his readings. And that was one he recommended. And it's basically an incredibly written book about what it's like to investigate murders that are like in communities that historically have been over-policed and under-protected.

So it's a really fascinating thing where like it is both written in such a compelling way where it hurts your heart when you're like the mom is like crying and hugging her son's like sneakers and like shit like that where you're like you it's not exploitative it's making you understand like what you're talking about when you talk about murder and also it has this interesting like uh thing of like analyzing the detectives too and it's one of those things where you're not seeing it as like police versus criminals you're understanding how whole community functions and how crime solvers and people who commit crimes and victims all interact yeah and it makes you like less ready to like listen to something that's murder as entertainment because you realize so many of the people affected are alive that it's too disturbing almost.

Yeah. Yeah. Weimar Germany thing made me think about the fact that true crime, like basically, like you were saying, it almost deifies like the state police force and like having, like you're rooting for the state police force to like solve the, like going against the dark evil.

And it's like this absolute good versus evil thing that like worries me a little bit. And I don't know. I don't know if that's the, like, I think a lot of true crime also comes from just, you know, the people being fascinated with the possibility of, you know,

their own like things that might endanger them. And I think that's a totally natural thing to be obsessed with, but I think it can sometimes just get exploitative a little yeah i think the one thing is that it's allowed like lazier development and entertainment because you could be like this is a story that's already written it has twists and turns we just have to film people talking about it yeah but i think that's just i think it happens with reality tv inherently or just that i think that's what the other thing is. Like they've, like I said,

they're just figuring out how to reboot crime, repackage crime as a thing they can exploit for money. But yeah, I think the, the more like, especially when you heard like the sort of not backlash, but like family members of victims of like people they covered in like my favorite murder.

And they're like, this is kind of sucks for us that you're so flippant about like something we went through that you're like oh yeah that's right yeah so just start making up murders to talk about yeah there's a series uh up and vanished that was i i got really into for like six or seven episodes it was basically trying to solve this murder that we had actually written about on cracked so i was like already familiar with the details where this teacher disappeared and like he was legitimately trying to solve the crime and was putting out all these really interesting like potential threads and people who might have committed it and then like it ended up getting solved because of the added attention that like this

investigation brought about which you think is a good thing but also like they hadn't even come close to like shining the light on the person who it actually was so it's just like i don't know it it also makes me not very confident in our ability as fans of narrative to like parse out what actually happened in a case like that and like we're like no I think this actually happened or this actually happened it's like no that's just what would make a good story but like truth doesn't cohere to what narratively is interesting that's why SVU is chill. You know, this is only based on shit. Right. You know what I mean? Yes.

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yeah i'm like oh your dad's kissed you on the forehead? Oh, you have a dad? Cool. Thanks, Jack. They kissed you? They didn't say that was some gay shit? Miles. Oh, buddy. I'm okay. I'm okay.

I'm okay. No, but seriously. It's like, I just want to be like, damn, do you want to fuck me or forgive you for cheating on mom? Oh, wow. That's not good. Wait, so you get kissed on the forehead. Is it a specific kind of kiss on the forehead?

Like, come here, come here, come here. No, any kind. There's no way to sexy kiss the forehead. No. Like if they French your forehead, just go. Forehead hickey, that's what I'm going for. No, I just, I don't think that's a place you kiss if like we're together. Wow.

So has your husband tried to kiss you on the forehead and you're like, yo, knock that shit off. He's not a weirdo. He knows what's up. Okay. Past partners? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And then have you been like, I'm sorry, my man. This is a no go. I've just really made a face. Oh, really? Yeah. I'm just like, ooh. That's a good face.

Don't kiss me on the forehead. Don't kiss me on the forehead face. Yeah. It's always like two would be like a dude that'd be like, okay, kiss me on the forehead don't kiss me on the forehead face yeah it's always like two would be like a dude that'd be like okay kiss me on the forehead be like be good

I'm like ew why don't say shit like that to me so if you're listening to me right now and you're horrified because I'm talking about you

cut that shit out yeah don't do that daddy shit I even hate being called daddy or some shit like that I don't like that do you not like it period or is that you don't need that daddy shit. I even hate being called daddy or some shit like that. I don't like that. Do you not like it, period, or a bit? You don't need to sub me like that.

Well, you say zaddy, my man. That's fine. Zaddy is different. Because you say a zaddy, and I'm like, just fuck around and find out, Jack. Hey, has people calling you daddy become weird now that you are a dad? A daddy.

People don't call me daddy. Your wife, I'm sorry. Well, constantly. Anna calls you her dad. Sophie calls you her dad. That's true. Yeah. You have become office dad to people.

Yeah, office dad. That's not the same thing as daddy. That is a thing that I get a lot. Office daddy implies he's going to spank me if I don't return the tape dispenser. Yes. I don't like it. Where's my swing line, stapler?

It doesn't just imply that. It's written on the office rules. Fuck around and get forehead kisses. Just being a parent is weird in general. Overrated, right? Overrated, right? Yeah, that's my next overrated. Overrated.

You know the thing? If we're talking about things unlike a relationship, I have been, this is going to sound so weird, accidentally punched in my balls a lot. What? Okay, let me try and clarify this.

Being punched in the balls? Yeah, that's not fun. And I'm like, yeah, go ahead, put your stiletto on, stomp that shit. And then it's like, ah, I didn't like that. No, I'm constantly, no, this is what it is. It's a partner not being aware of my vital genital organs. Like accidentally kneeing you in bed. Yeah, her majesty will like just hop on me.

I'm like, you just hip checked my testicles out of my body. And this happens a lot. Like I get like, I'm like treated like a Ken doll. Like where I have no vulnerable zones. Do you have a serious height differentiation between you and your girl? That's how it happens. Her majesty is five, two. I'm six, one.

Yeah. I've seen the pictures. I'm saying she doesn't know where your dick is. It just doesn't make sense proportionally. And I get fucked about constantly. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm like, there's no way we're going to have kids. Her body ended like two feet ago.

She doesn't know. Right. And also like the weight, literally twice her weight. Yeah. So there's also like a thing where I'm like, you just jumped on me

like I'm a sofa and you broke my bladder and shit like that. And this really isn't overrated. She's like, you can take it. We're just trying to air our grievances and now people think I'm into ball torture.

Is he bragging about having a girlfriend? I just want to hop in and say real quick, that's one of the main reasons I joke to my boyfriend that I've been doing keto is so I could lose weight so I'm skinnier than him

so he can't complain whenever I jump on him. Oh, fuck that. You should crush him. No, I do crush him, but he's always like, my body. Oh, do you aggressive

because you treat him like a jungle gym? You're like, baby. Next thing you know, I'm just vomiting blood. I'm like... That's how you know your girl loves you. I know.

You're going to vomit some blood. It's not real. Yeah, I guess so. So I guess it's real, ma. Yeah. Just trying to murder my boyfriend without him complaining. Yeah. Guys, just watch your elbows and knees.

We do have sensitive... Dude, Max acts like I'm so heavy and I'm like legit so offended. Well, he'd just be like, ah. I'll be like playful. I'll be like, oh my God, let me get on your back. He's like, no. Oh, wow. I'm like, what?

I am an angel, you son of a bitch. You should feel lucky to carry this body around. Exactly. He's like, there's too much body. He doesn't say that, but the grunting says it all you just be like motherfucker you out of shape right you know because that's when i realized too i'm like and that's really because i'm like i'm not as fit as i was in my 20s and i could have a back strain that would fuck me up that's literally what he's thinking yeah yeah god you know what that's new. Yeah. Yeah. God, you know what? That's New Year's resolution.

Be more fit so I can handle the human jungle gym torture. Yes. And by the way, once you have children, it's almost as if they're like nature. You're in the 90s comedy trailer. Specifically sized it so that they would kick you in the balls in order to stop you from having too many children. Wow. I think it's like a way of ending the cycle. order to stop you from having too many children. Wow. I think it's like a way of ending the cycle. Right.

It's just being like, yeah, yeah. It's like an evolutionary compulsion where the child even knows, like, I must destroy the gametes. Yes. It is just, it happens so often. It's very, don't have kids, guys. Yeah. Sometimes kids will punch you in the tits, too.

Yeah. Really. guys. Yeah. Sometimes kids will punch you in the tits, too. Yeah. Really hurts. Wow. Yeah. Or like, man, yeah, maybe this should be all overrated about dumb shit kids do, like call you out on weird shit. Oh, man.

Like your mustache looks like shit. Dude, when a teenager makes fun of you, it breaks your whole heart. And if it's a black teenager, sometimes I don't recover for like two months because they're so on point with their fucking tits. Oh, because it's a black teenager, sometimes I don't recover for like two months because they're so on point with their fucking disses. Oh, because it's too hot for you?

No, they're just like so real and it's something I always have been afraid of. Are you getting in arguments with teens somewhere? Dude, when I lived in Philly, I lived really close to a high school.

Yeah. And whenever I have to get on the L and they were getting out of school, I would be like, please don't make fun of me inside I'd be like please I can't handle it because it always be some shit

that you don't think anyone else noticed about you oh right right right it always be like bitch you drink weird and you're like they noticed you know

it's something like you literally didn't know was it like anybody else could tell. Right. You're like, I'm just self-conscious. One of your thighs is fatter than the other. You're like, ah! No!

How did they know? And I measured with this app. Oh, my God. The drink weird. I could just use, like, with a straw-based drink. Dude, yeah. I'm like, now I'm like, oh, my God, they're right. I do drink out of the side of my mouth.

All right. Any other overrated of the side of my mouth. All right. Any other overrated people want to get off their chest? Just really quick off my chest, Tristan Thompson. But I think people knew that. He was another person, the most searched athlete. And again, I think it has to do with- It's because he broke Khloe Kardashian's heart. Again, it has nothing, this heat by association.

I don't know what it is. You know what I mean? Again, but that's nothing. That don't know what it is. You know what I mean? Again, but that's, that's nothing. That's not a real good one. Um, I'm just going to say, I just watched the episode of the Kardashians where she, I really have been,

I was like, I need to know what she looks like when she finds out. And she seemed so fucking cool with it that I don't really get what everybody's so mad at. She seems fine that he's a cheater. How did she react? She was like, Oh really? Okay.

She was like, I just want the birth of the child to be really positive. And then he's like in the delivery room and she's like, oh, hey. And it's like, she seems fine. I didn't watch enough 90 Day Fiance to know she is compartmentalizing. Yes. Yeah. But it also seemed like they had a deal.

I don't know. Here we go. That's how it goes. All right. My next overrated 90 Day Fiance. People who talk about. Go ahead about you don't want this smoke uh can i do one last one yes yes yes and this is because i don't get it and it's like the horrors the realizing that i'm getting old is the hype over ariana grande i don't get it i find it overrated i'm sorry i don't understand i mean i understand she's got

a wild vocal range. I just don't know what's up. It took me a long time to watch a Thank U, Next video because I was kind of like, I don't know. I think she's good, but not to the level that we're talking about her, I guess. Well, she has, her vocal range is exceptional. Insane. Yeah. She's a crazy mimic.

That's what we should be talking about. Yeah, exactly. She can mimic like any singer ever the Britney Spears one when she did like that roulette wheel was that on Fallon

yeah on Fallon I watched that so many times because I was like that is uncanny it is really alright maybe I'll watch that and I'll I think you'll like that

you'll like that Ariana you would like that over like just pop singer not the only photograph my left side Ariana yeah exactly it's interesting

because like the biggest musical artists are always the people who, when you watch them on Saturday Night Live, you're like, oh, I get it. Right. They're just so, Drake was really good as a host of Saturday Night Live. Justin Timberlake.

Justin Timberlake, Bruno Mars, Ariana Grande. They were all like- Triple threat motherfuckers. Yeah, exactly. I know. It's just like, yep. Well, she was Kat Valentine. I think that's the other thing too. Ariana Grande they were all like triple threat motherfuckers yeah exactly I know it's just like yep well she was Kat Valentine

you know I think that's the other thing too she has so much momentum coming with her like a lot of these artists like Miley Cyrus when you can get these kids the Disney crew

in like their you know tween pre-tween years yeah like once you get it popping like oh wow look at my multi-million

person army I can now mobilize as my consumer base. Yeah. And then boom, you're popping. Right. And we're just too late. So producer Ana Hosnia, rest in peace.

It was great having you work on this show. My mentions were destroyed. All right. I do have one last thing to say. A teenager did once call me extra and that fucked me up and I still haven't forgotten. I'll never forget that I'm extra. Is that why you don't want to go to that Chipotle anymore? Oh my God. Being called extra is a compliment.

Yeah. I'll be like, you just can't handle this. Yeah. So fall the fuck back. Follow this. Fall back. Oh, I can't eat with my hands at the salad bar. Okay.

No, they've only really said just things that have haunted me for years. Teenagers only upset me. I love you. What's the fear of teenagers? A teenager asked me to go to the prom with him when I was in my late 20s and that was the nicest street cat call I've ever

had. Okay. I think you have a fibophobia. It's the fear of youth. Great. That's you. It puts you in a nutshell. Did you go with him? Yeah, I did did you we had the best sex oh no

of course we did he was 17 you guys know yeah I was gonna say of course not we don't encourage that this was a joke

and on date rape thank god on purpose oh boy okay whoa it's the end of the year here we go get it all out

hey the me too movement gives me the right to make all the jokes well that was my next overrated isn't that how that works no do i get the me too movement i think so okay yes oh also if you're a feminist you can't do women things right yes because you all you want to do is uh ball punch men it's true based on the one-dimensional reading of it yes that's what we say uh just looking back at the year, 2018, the mainstream media was, I feel like we came in being like, the New York Times and the Washington Post have our back, and the New York Times really fucked up.

They've had a shit year. They really fucked up. Dude, they're letting the drugs of society ride those opinion fucking things and like that what they did in the 2016 election where they were like fbi finds no like proof of trump collusion with russia is just like they're too worried about what the other side is going to think to have a grasp on reality they're too worried about and and it turns out like all these far left media outlets like mother jones and shit like the stuff they were saying at first like yeah during the election and the build-up to the election that's the stuff that

is coming true yeah uh so like i don't know well they also did it down to the major newspapers yeah well especially the new york times i mean they really fuck i mean like from the op-eds they were having to like weird puff pieces normalizing like Nazis and shit it's like what the fuck is this also ABC just had Gavin McInnes on they're like he's like oh white supremacy doesn't exist you're like okay you're gonna let that rock just like that not challenge it okay get the

fuck out and I was gonna say dead artists not like they're overrated but like when you look at the Google searches at the end of the year it's all people who passed away. And it's like, enjoy them while they're alive. All people who passed away. And Sylvester Stallone, who apparently people thought had passed away.

We were like, what the fuck is Sylvester Stallone, the number two trending person in Google searches of the world? And it's because there was a myth or like a hoax that he had died. A couple hoaxes. It went around the world. Yeah. There's some people that all the time people on the internet say are dead. Yeah. Like Abe Vigoda, right?

Remember? That was the whole thing. Yeah. Until he actually died. Yeah. It's a hoax until it isn't. I'll never believe he's dead. They always say Harrison Ford died too.

You always hear that one. Especially after all the plane crashes So anyway something to think about The takeaway is Nothing But think about it 2019 though guys It's gonna be our year

It's the year of the little guy And gal The little people Alright guys Anything else Anything left to say It's the year of the little guy and gal. Little lady. The little people. All right, guys. Anything else? Anything left to say before we get out of here? Just a quick 90-day fiancé rules. Quick 90-day fiancé rules.

Sophia, where can people find you? You can find me on my podcast, Reality Bites, Bites with a Y, that I co-host with Courtney Kosak. And you can find me on the internet anywhere at the Sophia, T-H-E-S-O-F-I-Y-A. Miles. Twitter, Instagram, at Miles and Gray. Boom. To producer Anna Jose.

At Anna Jose. Maybe I shouldn't tell it. I did not have great overrated. They'll find you. They were especially spicy. It's okay. Your nurse is ready to wheel you out of the studio now. I think you need your medication.

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