The Daily Zeitgeist - The Most Underrated Things of 2018

Episode Date: December 27, 2018

In this holiday underrated spectacular, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Alison Stevenson and super producer Anna Hossnieh to talk about all the things they found underrated in the 2018 year!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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For this holiday week, just giving you some special eps, summing up 2018 and our thoughts on it. My name is Jack O'Brien. I'm joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah, that's me. Uh-huh. Thanks, man. Cool by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah that's me. Uh-huh. Thanks man. Cool, cool. Great to be here. We are joined by Soups Produce on a Hosniye today. Yellow! Oh wow. We are also thrilled to be joined by the hilarious comedian and writer, Alison Stevenson. Hello. Hi. So, today's episode is, we're talking about the most underrated things of 2018, highly subjective.

Oh, yeah. So, it can just be something that you found to be underrated. And Super producer Nick said most of his were golf things. So we can't really get into that. Might be a little too niche. It was a laser you clip onto your hat

to keep your head down when you putt. So you know you're not moving your head at all through your stroke. That's a thing my friend's stepdad invented. Shout out to George. George. Just George. your head at all through your stroke. That's a thing my friend's stepdad invented, actually. Shout out to George. George. Just George. I don't want to make it hot for him and give his legal name.

We'll call him Zezik. My jump shot was so ugly when I was growing up that I had this strap thing that went on my left arm to keep it in place. One time my friend walked in on me using it in the gym and he was like, I felt like I walked in on something obscene.

Like masturbating? Basketball sex toy? Oh, was that to keep your shooting arm perpendicular to the ground? It was to keep my off hand from going with the ball. Oh, so you could just give up. Okay. Yeah.

To make sure that thing was wetter than a rainy day. Anyways, that's my first underrated is strapping your, no, it is not. Do you remember the brand name of the device? No. I feel it has some clever name or like Shooter's Coach. Right. Shooter's best friend. Probably. It was probably made by the same people who made those terrifying looking strength shoes.

Oh, yeah. It was called Basketball Stuff same people who made those terrifying-looking strength shoes. Oh, yeah. It was called Basketball Stuff. Yeah, that's right. Literally in the back of Slam Magazine. Or in the Air Alert 2 program. They guaranteed you a vertical, so even if you're 5'2", you could dunk. I had it. I'm sorry. Anyways, guys, what path do we want to take in doing our underrateds?

Miles, you want to get us off with a hot one? Yeah, yeah. That sounded more sexual than it should have. Underrated this year, Taylor Swift. Whoa! Yeah. She could be a glimpse into our dystopian future. I don't mean her fucking music.

Right. I'm talking about watch- Which is just as good as everybody thinks. I'm saying watch what the fuck Taylor Swift is doing. Okay. So she stayed silent. Okay.

And she got involved in politics and we saw a little bump. Okay. So we're starting to see that she can move the needle a little bit. But then I think,

you know, I'm talking about she was deploying facial recognition software at her concerts to spot stalkers who might have been at her shows.

Now, I say this is underrated because the way it was done was so fucking slick and sneaky that you had no idea that you were basically looking into a facial recognition program. So they set up video kiosks that had behind-the-scenes footage of the tour. And so a lot of people were seeing these Sw you know, these Swifty acts or whatever you call them, Swifters, tailors, whatever the fuck you call our fans, white people. Swift stuff. Yeah. Tay-Tays.

Yeah. They would go because, look, they want to see new tent, new con tizzle. And that's what the screen offered. So as they looked into it, there was a camera that was actually like recording their face. And back at them. Beaming it back to a place that was going to run it against a database of known stalkers to see oh maybe this has happened now they've done this in china too for like people who they were looking for like criminal and stalkers but this is like this is the first time at least that i've heard of for

like an artist as big as taylor swift where we're just seeing facial recognition software being deployed like that for her safety uh which i get uh but it's also like raises the question, like, what are they doing with that information though? Like once it goes to this database, are they just keeping that on a file? Do they delete it immediately? Sell it to Russia. Sure. Are they using that information to then connect your face to maybe you appearing at another

place and saying, okay, so this person after they go here, they went to a club or a bar or a restaurant and are they just going to package that information? So, yes, I would say Taylor Swift is underrated because I feel like whatever shit she's got to do to stay safe is a good thing to be like, okay, this was coming down the road, the lane. I actually had the how our future is going to be impacted by facial recognition technology on my initial list. And then I cut it because it wasn't that good. But no. Okay, cool. No, no.

So I believe that. Yeah. No, I agree. It's fucking crazy. China, because they can just make their citizens do whatever they want, they have basically every citizen's face in a database, and so they're kind of leaps and bounds ahead of us because they basically have more data to work with.

They have every face of every citizen, which is over a billion. And it's basically like a minority report where they know where you are at all times. Love that. Yeah. Love that. It's a fun movie. Yeah. It is.

I just want to use gestures to use a computer. Right. Because that was dope. I'm still shocked by my phone Every time it works My face thing I'm still taken aback You're getting mad

You don't fucking know me It's weird it doesn't work as well When I'm just waking up I'm like the most contorted face I have to really struggle To keep my eyes. I'm like, hi, phone. Have you thought about cutting down salt in your diet?

That's what your phone says. Oh, wow. No, because my face, when my face gets puffy, it's always because I've eaten something salty. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, I didn't mean it like that. I just meant like the contorted face of just being like sleepy and trying to struggle to wake. But okay.

I'll get my blood pressure checked. I'm just saying, man. Okay. Allison, what is your first underrated thing of 2018? Mine are all just going to be like all over the place. Yeah. I don't think people were angry enough about a show that aired on MTV called How Far Is Tattoo Far?

Uh-huh. Snooki hosts. What? See, that's the thing. No one's talking about it. But I saw one episode and had a panic attack. I was like, this cannot be on the air. This is not allowed.

I literally don't even want to talk about this. I'm not going to explain it. Okay, cool. I refuse. That's it. It's crazy. It's insane. It's literally like a real tattoo show with real tattoos being done right where two friends go and they basically blindfold each

other and each one gets a tattoo designed oh but on their body by the other person and they're all malicious they're all meant to be done like oh isn't this like based off a uk show because i feel like they have a show like that in the uk it might be where they constantly use people's belly buttons as assholes yeah it could definitely always tattoo like a dog's ass around your belly button so your navel looks like just an asshole or whatever or just like really awful shit it's so awful i saw one episode and this girl had like on her friend, she tattooed in like shitty, like Comic Sans font, like in the tramp stamp area. Right.

It said, I like to do it in the dot, dot, dot. And it was a real tattoo. Well, finish the sentence. What do we don't know? It was just an ellipsis. Yeah. We'll never know. Wow.

And the other girl had like a chastity belt tattooed on her, like all over. Her like groin and shit? Yeah. Yeah. What the fuck? Are you going to be like, at some point you'd be, wait, so you have to go in and be like, yo, you could tat up anywhere. I don't care.

Like they have to agree. They get blindfolded and the other person decides where it goes, how big it's going to be. Right, right, right. What it's going to look like. And the tattoo artist just does it. And then afterwards they have like the big reveal and that's the end of the episode. And like it's the saddest, most tragic thing I have ever seen. Because the clips I've seen for the UK version, people are usually like half the time they have a good attitude about it.

Because I think that's sort of how some Brits are. But then I've seen people who have just like collapsed on the floor because they're just so like, they're like, what the fuck have I just done? Just sobbing. Yeah, I would. I think over there, was it called Just Tattoo of Us? Maybe. Okay. Because I'm looking at a Google image search of the worst tattoos from Just Tattoo of Us.

Just Tattoo of us. Tattoo. Just tattoo of us. And one is just a diagram of the vagina with like all the different parts, you know, urethral opening. But just, you know, like straight out of a health book, just on somebody's, I'm guessing, arm. Urethral, that's P-hole. Right.

And then what about V-hole? That vagina is one of the things. Anus is there. Clitoris. And then the other ones I can't read. Moms pubis. Oh my God, yeah. This one from just had two of us.

What is that? It's just a vibrator. Is that a vibrator? On the woman's thigh going up towards her crotch. Wow. And that's a real tattoo. And that's a real. Oh, y'all.

We're. I mean, look. Shout out to millennials. We can't let this happen. We're out here. We need to stop this. In Gen Zers. Yeah.

I think just underrated is how. Because everybody's tatted up in the millennial generation. Yeah. And just that's going to be, you know, the future. The future is going to be a lot of saggy tattoos. Oh, my God. Which I know is an old person thing to say, but it's true. That's why I don't get them.

Right. MTV also doesn't pay shit. Right. Right. Oh, yeah. I bet you they paid to be on the show. Right. They're like, well, after the tattoo, they're like, okay, so the bill for this tattoo is $3,000.

I can sell this. Right. What? I just had a tattoo of a tampon being removed, tattooed to my inner thigh. Right. Which is another one from Just Tattoo of Us. Actually, that's kind of punk. I'd be into that.

Just the idea of an entire chastity belt coming out. How punk is that, Allison? Oh, no. What is it? It's literally a tampon being removed. Removed from somebody's thigh. I guess they can do wilder ones on the UK. That's factually incorrect, because it wouldn't come out looking so perfect.

It would not. Done by a man. Honey, you ever bled? God, I hate... Anyway, I'm upset. Are we moving on? Yes. Let's moving on? Yes. Let's move on to me because I have a hot one. So, no, I was going to say, you know, everyone's waiting on the Mueller report. And I think what we already know about what Trump has done is underrated and just everything.

Yeah, just look at the fucking news that has been reported out up to this point um and also just like how bad he is at his job i think is underrated like when you listen to experts uh like i was talking last week about how i listened to a national security podcast and they're just constantly like they're conservative on certain things, but they're just constantly in awe of how fucking bad this administration is. Like the idea that Jared Kushner is in charge of anything and he is like, yeah, there's chatter going around about how Jared Kushner is easy to manipulate because he's like upside down on this real estate investment and that you just need to flatter him. And yeah, it's just,

it's not fun necessarily to be on the right side of history and just be like, yeah, man, like I, I knew the Iraq war was going to be bad. Like, Oh, okay.

Rasputin. No, but a lot of people, a lot of people did right right war would not end well right interesting well but at the time there was a whole lot including the mainstream media was like buying into this weapons of mass destruction shit and it was wildly aggravating to you know have people be seemingly obviously wrong on stuff. And then, you know, once you find out you're right, it's not, there's no like satisfaction to it. It's just like, well, shit, that sucked. And the people who like were wrong, like the weekly standard just shut down.

And they were the people, they were the outlet that was most responsible for making the case of going to war in Iraq I feel like you know there's not like some great payoff where you just get like you find out where they're like okay we were wrong about everything you just have to like go back and pull their articles and be like look how

fucking stupid these people were and hope that that makes you feel better and it doesn't really because people are dead. Anyways, this is rambling, but I think like let's not get discouraged if the Mueller report isn't everything. Isn't everything that we hoped it would be. I think what we already know and also what's going to be uncovered by the congressional committees. Yeah, it'll be enough. Well, it'll, yeah yeah it'll get us where

we where we have to go and yes this administration is going to go down as being you know one of the worst things to ever happen to america and yes the people who supported him are going to be proven wrong but that's it they're not going to be like yeah you got us we were right we were wrong you were right yeah uh racist uncles come out and they're like hey you be like, you got us. We were right. We were wrong. You were right. Yeah. A bunch of racist uncles come out and they're like, hey, you know what, guys? Can I sit everybody down? Hey, my bad on that.

Right. There's not going to be a satisfying payoff for any of this. I'm feminist now. It's going to continue to suck. I got this tattoo of this tampon being removed

from my leg. See? I get it, sister. Intersectionality, you know? Super producer Anna Hosnia, what is something you think Actually, I have something that comes off of that

is the whole Ivanka being so shady. I feel like we should be making a big deal about how she, just because she's like a beautiful white woman, she just kind of walks around

like, oh my God, that's so interesting. Yeah. But like, she is just as, I don't, I's so interesting. She is just as I don't want to describe her as a fraudulent being than her father

and her brothers. She is in that shit and I feel like we don't talk about it enough. I think we need to go after her. I think she needs to rot in white collar prison. Is that for sure? Let's be real. You mean Orange mean orange county yeah she'd go to orange county where they still let her wear pearls as long as it matches the dress code of the you

know prison but no salon visits no salon visits where she gets one tan a day. They don't even let me wear Lily Pulitzer. I mean, seriously, she's definitely, the focus is everyone's going to have their time in the sun. And it seems like the childrens, we're going to have to do some explaining to do, too.

I hope so. I truly hope that they don't get to slide out because in the end they just throw their own dad under the bus. They're like, wow, that was funny how he just turned out to be so evil. I hope they also get taken down as well. Well, that'll be interesting. When you think you have loyalty from someone and then you get betrayed, then you really start, that game will begin too. And how quickly will the kids be like, you know what, honestly, dad fucking sucked.

He never came to my track meets. You know, second my dad gets indicted, I'll be like, peace, dude. And how quickly will the kids be like, you know what? Honestly, dad fucking sucked. He never came to my track meets. You know, second my dad gets indicted, I'll be like, peace, dude. Give me the car. I'm taking your car. I mean, not that he would get indicted soon, but the day he does, I will throw him under the bus. Oh, it's a comment. Oh. Okay, cool.

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But real quick, I just wanted to shout out something. I'm old. I have children. I don't go out and experience new technology. You are literally 28 and you need to chill. Is this your will? But the gentleman who edits this podcast, DJ Danil, also my cousin, Danil Goodman. First of all, you shouldn't tell people that.

That's nepotism at its worst. Is a young person who goes out, experiences the world, and I asked him for his list of underrateds. Here is what he had. VR. He's apparently been doing VR. He's so young. Echo Combat is a game he enjoys.

Bidet attachments, which we've actually heard quite a bit about. Cheap sunglasses. Liking who you work with, kiss ass. I fucking hate that guy. And eSports, which are all things that I never would have guessed were underrated. You thought eSports was taking a molly and then doing a marathon. Which is on my list. That's the future.

Taking drugs and running marathons. Yeah. I mean, you really get in your body when you do it. You can really feel the wind. Other resident young person, Sophie Lichterman's picks were so old, being friends with your parents. Oh, boy. And staying in town for the holidays. Wow.

Which I totally agree with. Yo, for a while, oh, Allison and I are the only natives in the building. Angelino's. Yeah. That's really the way for us because when you're like, I've always been in town

and I'm like, thank you. This is what LA should be. It is great. Less fucking traffic because everybody, yeah. Oh my God, that day that no one is there and you're just gliding right through all of LA. I'm like, oh, this is what West Hollywood looks like?

Right, exactly. You've never been. I never knew. This is what happens when all the UCB people go home? Yeah. There's no one yes-anding in the streets? Yes, and I, get the fuck out of my way. You have a wig on, You're clearly in Groundlings.

No, I definitely start seeing Thanos's point about just making half the people disappear. It's like, yo, this would be great. Just keep the valley freaky. Is that why you've been trying to take all my rings? Yeah, exactly. And he's just been snapping a lot in the bathroom. He's like, it's not working. Go!

Miles, what's something that you think was underrated? This is kind of a later end of 2018 thing. And as much as it pains me to say this, Ted Cruz's beard. Wow. I don't know what he did, but his beard makes him look like a fucking person. And I thought, look, you can't do anything to that man's face. His beard makes him look like a fucking person. And I thought, look, you can't do anything to that man's face. But his beard, it really is something.

I couldn't believe what I look like or what he looked like. It obscures his face. Oh, shit. Miles is Ted Cruz. I'm Ted Cruz. Guys, and this is also an announcement. I will be leaving the Daily Zeitgeist to run Ted Cruz's presidential campaign. So this is me actually stumping for him. So that means you're also the Zodiac killer.

I am, yes. Oh, shit. Yeah, but it's just a very, I don't know, it's a weird thing. Like a lot of think pieces were written on this in a way that like at first I think people were just like, yeah, whatever. But I do have to say like what the, don't know what I don't know what it is I don't want to look at it again oh yeah here you got it

you got it pulled up no it really oh my god makes him far less blob fishy yeah it's just like

he's less strikingly ugly for whatever reason yeah now he just looks like a cool youth pastor yeah you know what I mean try out a beard you guys

I wouldn't go that far okay he definitely has an acoustic guitar he wants to play at a party. Yes. He's like, you guys heard Tangerine? No, he's like, have you heard the Aladdin song?

Yeah, right. I can play it in acoustic. I can show you Ted Cruz. That's weird. It is a good look. It's the power of a beard for some people. Yeah. I've been noticing a couple people who I know who started

rocking mustaches this year. Like me. Old-timey mustaches. And it really works for them, which you'd never know. Like someone in your life? Yeah, just somebody I know from... You mean like the twirly like... No, no, no. Just like a push broom? Yeah, just push broom, straight up

mustache. Oh, okay. Name names. Like a Chicago detective? Right, exactly. But it just up, mustache. Name names. Like a Chicago detective. Right, exactly. But it just works for him. Certain faces. Try out facial hair, guys. Yeah, I would if my shirt actually grew in. Anyway, Allison, what about you?

My fucking stupid facial hair. I'm sorry. stupid facial hair. I'm sorry. Well, I think underrated. The movie, comedy movie that came out earlier this year, Game Night. I don't think enough people appreciated

that movie for how funny it was. I said I totally agreed with it. I haven't seen it. It's on HBO every 20 minutes. I need to check it out. Well, if I had cable, I would know that, but. Yeah. Did you sneak in to the movie?

No, no, no. I just like rented it when I was like visiting my dad. Oh, cool. And I was like, what's a movie we can both watch that wouldn't have sex in it or whatever?

So we rented Game Night and I was like, oh, this is like funny. Yeah. And it's really hard to I think watch a movie that's actually funny these days. One of the most underrated performances is Jesse Plemons in

that goddamn movie Game Night. It is the funniest character. He plays the weird cop neighbor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is the funniest thing. And I kept thinking it was Philip Seymour Hoffman. Oh, R.I.P. I kept thinking that was him. Was this like a CGI Hoffman or something?

Have you guys seen Jesse Plemons in that? It's great. You have to see it. His character is probably one of the most underrated performances I've ever seen him do. It is so funny. Yeah. So funny. I thought it was a very funny movie.

Okay, I believe you. Okay, well... Miles, you were saying Blockers last year, right? So this is maybe this year's is Blockers? Blockers was this year. Oh, was it? Yeah. That's how long this year. Well, you guys have been a long year. Oh, was it? Yeah. That's how long this year.

Well, you guys have been a long year. Just burned one of my other fucking underrateds. But yeah, just in that similar vein. Well, no, I mean, I have like 900 written down. But yeah, I love Blockers. That was like another one I was like, look at them fucking turning the weird teen comedy on its ear and not being like totally shitty. You know why I enjoy that?

Also, Leslie Mann, really great in that one. They boof in that movie. Yeah. Love it. Boof for the truth is what we say. I'm a huge bo boof in that movie. Boof for the truth. I'm a huge boof in films fanatic. When you put stuff up your butt. Oh, a boof.

A boof. Now you guys are burning one of mine. I can say boof and strike that from the list. Oh, boof. Oh, I thought you said boof. Side show, Bob. oh boo oh I thought you said boo oh boo oh side show Bob okay so

oh I'm up sorry I have one that's like sort of just things that I found were good for my mental health this year taking your medication as directed I had never tried that before but yeah just trust your doctors and what they tell you to do with your medication as directed. I had never tried that before. But yeah, just trust your doctors and what they tell you to do with your medication.

Great. And yeah, you... Trust the process. Yeah, it's good for you. And also driving like a responsible person, like being nice to people while driving. What the fuck? Are you looking at my goddamn list?

No. You too? Is that really one of yours? Or are we soulmates? Can we have the fucking studio for a second? I do want to say, you do drive very slow. I used to be a reckless driver. Oh, really?

I also used to drive under the influence from time to time. And I think that I have built up a debt to the universe because I didn't kill myself or anyone else. Right. And... That you know of. Yeah. Pretty sure I would have noticed.

But yeah. And so just trying to pay that back, I've decided to like try and be as nice to people as possible. And it's just like a place where you interact with more people than you interact with generally, at least in Los Angeles, uh,

in the rest of your life. So like, you know, just doing something nice for someone, even if it's, it's not going to like make their day, but it just like makes their day like 0.1% less shitty. And like that can have,

well, I think it's also an exercise in being able to like sort of separate yourself from your ego a bit. Right. Because the way a lot of people drive is like, I'm not going to let you in because I was in line and you didn't. Yeah. And then that means you got the better of me because I let you in or something. If people want to come into the lane or whatever.

Yeah. And I think the more you can just be like, this person is trying to enter the lane. Yeah. But what if it's when you're about to turn left and it's a protected left turn and there's that light and they're cutting ahead of you and then you miss that left turn because they just cut ahead of you.

That shit pisses me off. Yeah, that's fine. No, it should. I can piss you off. I'm a mean driver. I get really angry. Do you let people in? Oh, shit.

All right, well, that's up to you. I mean, it's not like I am annoyingly like, well, I will never turn left when it's red light. Like, I just follow the unspoken rule of like two people. So I will not be the third person to go through the yellow light. Yeah. I mean, well, that's also illegal. Right. That's the law.

Oh, what? Following the law? I will also not be, I will not like not go when I'm the second person. Right. That's the law. Oh, what? Following the law? I will also not be, I will not like not go when I'm the second person. Right. Well, that's my thing is like I was, that was similar to yours is that like gratitude as a driver is what's underrated to me. I think if you can, even if you just someone, you know, it's, we're all in the same fucking world together.

And if someone is, gives you the courtesy of accommodating someone in a rush or whatever, doing that, give a fucking wave. Because every time I do that, I go, you gonna wave? You gonna wave? You're not gonna fucking wave. If you're a sociopath and a mini Cooper, I should have known because of that Roxy sticker on the back. The wave is

nice. I'll agree with that. The wave is a wave. And also in Japan, what you do is you flash your hazard lights. So like if someone lets you in, you just, you throw your hazards on for like click, click, click, click. And it's more of like a visual being like, hey, I see you. Thank you for that. Actually, that's a, there's a joke in, I think the latest Dimitri Martin special where he

talks about how there's not a like reverse of a honk. Like when you, like if you honk at somebody and then you realize somebody's crossing in front of them, there's no way to be like. Un-honk. Yeah, like he was saying, you flick yourself off, you're like, fuck me, I was wrong, fuck me. The idea of turning your middle fingers back

towards your face is pretty entertaining, i must say but i like that i like i think we should have more communicative uh ways to be on the road hey let's just make the hazard flash a thing yeah let's do that in america even if you can't because usually your hazards are pretty accessible but if you do that in the u.s someone's gonna be like what's going on what's going on is there an issue is there an issue yes they do. People panic. Nobody's ever helped me on the side of the fucking road. I have driven. Yes, because you're a person of color. No one helps people of color.

If you were a white man with a full set of hair, they would stop and be like, sir, do you need help? Does that make them more trustworthy? It's like the Hayes Davenport types get helped. Not like someone who's like, I know, like the Hayes Davenport types get helped, you know, like not like, you know,

not like someone who's like, oh, I don't know his skin tone. Also on my list. Are you speaking from your experience? Yeah. As a cop? As a cop, yeah. I'll let that rock.

Keep that in. I'm just saying, it's like people don't, people get nervous when they see anyone where they're like, well, I don't know. I just, I won't. It's just how it goes. That's how i feel you know uh yeah okay underrated the name hayes davenport that is un-fucking-believable the waspiest name possible uh but a really good guy hey he was just on the couples therapy episode and and I highly recommend because he makes fun of his whole demeanor and how he went to Harvard and all that stuff.

It's very funny. Oh, did he? Never mind. It's just funny. So listen to couples therapy. It dropped last week. Okay. My underrated is just the goddamn reality TV that came out this year.

Holy shit. I was living on this reality tv all year um bachelor in paradise was a very good year also i'm gonna even go further bachelor in paradise australia all these bachelor australia shows even better than the american it is popping out here vanderpump rules oh god 90 day fiance as, as Miles loves to discuss. And, you know, look, this got a lot of hate, but Jersey Shore, Family Vacation. Yes. I liked it.

I was enjoying it. I was going to talk about it, too. It was like a good insight of all these old people who are tired and being like, look, we're still trying to make that dough. It was fucking hard to watch for me. I love it. Look at what society did to y'all. Like, you still haven't grown up. That's why I like it.

But then Snooki fucking poisoned a woman with alcohol. Well, that's... That's when I was like, yo, that's joking. That's criminal. Yeah, that one was projectile vomiting. People were just like, ha, ha, ha. And that's when I was like, yo, something's wrong with this show, because these people just watched this woman poison another person with alcohol.

Right, but you did see the producers kind of come in and be like, oh, fuck. That's the interesting part. Yeah, but I think... The producers are starting to break the fourth wall in this show.'s criminal activity going on great dude these people still got it in the most terrifying of ways anyway yeah rally to polly man he hasn't changed a bit no polly's the one who's the same person actually like he's very like he knows how to raise his child he's got all the advice but they're also still like the cats are here yeah like he's still like fucking insane but still it's like look ronnie you really need to like see a lawyer and figure out your situation it's the most like he's all over the place yet is the

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Miles, with something that you think was underrated in 2018. Sylvester Stallone. This guy was the most fucking Googled actor globally on Google. And solely because people were

fucking around and claiming he had died. Yeah. And then I began to realize what the actual power of Stallone is around the world for people. Many people love his movies. I don't think...

He's pretty good to me. But he's got... I couldn't believe how just saying a troll tweet of like, Sylvester Stallone died basically changed the internet of the entire world. Just went, oh my god, Sly Stallone, Sly Stallone, Sly Stallone.

In many different languages. So yeah, that was a thing. I personally underrated him and I did not realize, not that I feel that he is underrated, but I personally did not really come to grips with the fact that if, I mean, I knew he's like a huge star or whatever, but not to the point where

so many of the things on Google Trends were seeing the same kind of thing being googled in many different language uh languages in language uh so many different languages in many different language they google is uh sylvester stallone dead so you know what okay sly you know maybe the you know human growth hormone is working you know don't we have rice hey don't we got rice or something i do feel like if sylvester Stallone died, a little part of me would also die. Damn.

I just, you know, deep down, I got a soft spot for silly. What's your favorite Sylvester Stallone movie? What caused that soft spot in your skull? Oh, my God. What isn't my favorite Sylvester Stallone movie? I mean, I love all the Rockies. Do you really? Yeah.

Hell yeah. No. Why did you just get so distracted? Super producer Nick Stump was holding up because when we were looking at it, there was like, because we were looking at Sylvester Stallone being dead in all these different languages. It was like, is Sylvester Stallone is dead? Like all these languages. I'm like, what the fuck is this?

It was in Danish. We had a good laugh about that. Is dead? Dead. Dude. Yeah, I mean, the one thing, like this is also true of current Hollywood blockbusters, but the movies that translate to all languages are the big action movies. And so, like, she is a global icon, you know? Like, those 80s action movies were ahead of their time.

They were like... Yeah, honestly, this is surprising because I don't like any action. I love First Blood. Holy shit. This is crazy to me. I know. I love it, which is always funny because in college, we'd all try and play the drinking game of you take a shot every time he kills someone, and then you just can't get through

the first five minutes. You're just like, no, we can't do this anymore. Then you have to quit because he kills like 10 people in the first 10 minutes. And then you're just like, okay, well, enough of that. Steve died. So we got to deal with that. Anyway, I love First Blood. Did you ever play with me?

No. Oh, Allison and I went to college together. So I figured maybe you were. I don't think I was present for that. It's always that Mulberry. Yeah. Don't worry, that's some insider. Do you like First Blood

Part 2? You know what? Not as much as First Blood, but I don't know why. I enjoy his weird guerrilla murder style in that movie. Yeah. No, it's crazy. He he I think is one of our great propagandists because he like at the same year he released rocky for in which he won the Cold War and then he released Rambo 2 in which he

went back and won Vietnam like defeated the entire Vietnamese army with exploding tip arrows somehow. There's nothing weird about that. Yeah. So shout out to Sylvester Stallone. You know what? Also another Stallone favorite of mine, Copland. I fucking love Copland. Copland's pretty good, yeah.

Just because for once, he's just a fucking dope. He's just like, oh, God. Oh, Jesus. Oh, boy's just like, oh, God. Oh, Jesus. Everything keeps, oh, no. Like, every scene, he's just fucking up somehow. And I thought that was, like, a very important role for him to play. Yeah. I love Copland.

Show some vulnerability. He's a method man in that. He has a lot of people in there. Rappaport being like, I didn't mean to kill him. And then he's something. Rappaport yells a lot. But I love Copland. He's a method man who, like, threatens him. he's something That's Rappaport yells a lot But I love Copland There's a method man

Who like threatens him Someone's like Hug your kids Kiss your wife Eat your baby's Fruit loops and shit I don't know There's like a line

In Copland That we just say as kids Huh It's a great film Shout out to Sylvester Stallone Still out here Staying alive

Still Wow That is Didn't he direct Shout out to Sylvester Stallone. Still out here, staying alive. Still, wow. That is Travolta. Didn't he direct Staying Alive Part 2? He directed Saturday Night Fever Part 2. Sylvester Stallone did. Staying alive. Wow.

And it is a disaster. Okay. Allison, what is something you think is underrated from 2018? Actually, mine kind of is of the same vein of a celebrity death Okay. Allison, what is something you think is underrated from 2018? Actually, mine kind of is of the same vein of a celebrity death. This is why I didn't have anything to say about Sylvester Stallone. It's because my jam is more in the realm of, say, Frasier. Oh.

And I don't think we cared enough that John Mahoney died. Which one's he? Did he die? Martin Crane. Who's Martin Crane? The father. Oh, the father. The father. Marty. that John Mahoney died. Which one's he? Did he die? Martin Crane. Who's Martin Crane? The father. Oh, the father. The father.

Marty. This is Peter McAllister, the father. That's from Home Alone. I didn't realize he died. Exactly. Yeah. No one paid that man due respect. I didn't really watch Frasier,

so I didn't, that's my blind spot. Didn't the dog also die? This year That would be quite A miracle Maybe not For that dog

Were you Were you personally Deeply upset by his passing? I was Okay Yeah that's like Probably my favorite show Of all time

Frasier Yeah No I just said his name Frasier As much as I hate to admit it That's probably One of my favorite shows Yeah

Well that's good. You should bring awareness. How did he pass away? I don't know. Old. So you don't care that much, do you? Okay. Old.

I don't know. Old. Something really tragic. I mean, he was old when Frasier aired. Yeah. That's true. That's an article we always used to do at Cracked is where aren't they now, 12 famous people you didn't notice died this year. He died of head and neck

cancer. Oh fuck. Who gets neck cancer? Head and neck both of them at the same time. Yeah that's tough. It's tough to come back from that. Those are two important body parts. Jeez. I'm just saying.

Tough to come back from that? Hey it's tough, man. Can you imagine a doctor being like, you have neck cancer? Is that a real thing? Cancer of the head and neck. It's got to be called something else. It can't be called neck cancer. Well, I'm sure it's maybe something like a gland or something in his neck rather than like the muscles of his neck or something.

I don't know. I'm not an oncologist. Yeah, that's true. Well, I mean, not a licensed one. This one's going to suck. I hate myself for this already. So,

I think famous people are underrated. Certain famous people. Go on. We've had the opportunity to work around some lately. We're working on the upcoming Rob and Burgundy podcast, and we're not going to talk too much about that. But I just think it's easy to lose sight of how insanely talented people who became famous for their talents. Like, we just get used to being around them and we're just like, yeah,

you know, he's a funny guy, but it turns out like, I don't know. Like the, I think people, a lot of people who are famous are famous for a reason. A good example of this is I walked by Tom Cruise a couple of years ago and

like he glows from the inside out and like, he's just not human it's pretty crazy that's right because he's a thetan right well i don't know what it is i think he's injected or you know what he's like that like uh who was the woman back in the day who like bathed in virgin's blood oh madame tina turner bovary yeah i think he's got he's he's got something going on yeah no i mean it also might be that he lives a wonderful, stress-free life because he has an army of slaves in the Sea Org who do everything for him. So maybe that's just how you look after that. Must be nice.

Yeah. Hey. Hey, people didn't look better than during slavery. But on the negative side of that like i have no doubt donald trump is like a force of nature in a room like he's probably like very i don't know like a farce of nature i would say but i just don't think we should underrate the right you know that there are these people out there who, uh, have like this ineffable,

like charisma or something that is just, you know, in person. It's really, it's almost like seeing LeBron James in person, like up close. If you've ever seen him in person, it's like,

Oh, so superheroes exist like that. That dude is, he's like on another level than anything you've ever witnessed. It's just crazy. But it doesn't fully communicate through the TV. I think we got so used to celebrity culture shifting. Someone said you used to be famous because you achieved something.

And now fame is an achievement. Yeah. And so we kind of de-emphasized achievements for like, you know, elevating people. And like, yeah, when you're in the presence of someone who's like that, it's easy to like, I think we write most people like, yeah, whatever. You're famous because some shit happened at the right time and you're there. And then you see people, you're like, wow, okay. Like, I see why you're doing something. Yeah, no, touching on that,

it's also, we're kind of demanding more of our celebrities to kind of be more like the common person. Right. Like, it used to be that celebrities were very mysterious and, like, we didn't know much about them just, like, from little interviews and stuff, but now we're like, what, this person's not on Twitter? Like, you know,

they're not a good celebrity. Like celebrities have more of like, they need to be more socially active and more themselves. Accessible, right. Yeah, more accessible. Like Will Smith finally gave in and got on Instagram, you know.

And I think that's a great example of what I'm talking about. He just like has the best, he's like the best at Instagram. Yeah. Oh, and he's killing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like amazing at it.

But yeah, that's a thing that people used to not amazing at it. But yeah, that's a thing that people used to not need to do. But yeah, that's my last one. Your love letter to Hollywood. Yes. Super producer Ana Hosnier, what? Guys! Benicio del Toro's performance in Escape from Dannemora. Okay. We need

to be talking about it. Are you his agent? Yes. I'm his agent. My name is Finicio. I don't know. I don't know why. I don't know why. Where are you from? Very great decision

with that improv. No, I'm serious though. I'm Finicio's agent, Finicio. Shit, man. Finicio Felforo. Yeah. Hold on, hold on. Let me call Hollywood really quick. Yeah, I have a genius here. shit man uh finicio felforo uh yeah hold on hold on

let me call hollywood really quick uh yeah i have a genius here finicio felforo

yeah it's just finicio in a hat trying to convince people it's like the name he gives

at a hotel yeah with his face finicio felforo finicio del toro no no no not me different guy uh yeah no but seriously Yeah, with his face. And you, oh, Benicio Falforo. Benicio Del Toro. No, no, no. Not me.

Different guy. Yeah, no, but seriously, Benicio is such a goddamn good actor. It took me a while. I kept being like, that's not Benicio. Because he looks so different. Just his whole demeanor. His ability to just change. And I know I'm that person.

You really blend into his character. It's amazing. Like, I kept being like, that's Benicio. And then my boyfriend would be like, shut up. You can see it in the credits. It's Benicio. And I'm like, it just doesn't feel like, like, this is a whole different person. Yeah.

And it's an amazing performance. I highly recommend Escape from Dannemora. Paul Dano's in it, too. But I don't fuck around with no men with no chins, so I don't fuck with him, but like Benicio Del Toro. I don't really care for Paul Dano, but Benicio Del Toro. Cancel that

booking. Wow. He was coming to do press for Swiss Army Man. A couple years later. Very on the tail end of his press tour, but that just vaporized. Are you sure it wasn't press for Escape from Dannemora, the show that's getting not enough

press? Oh, is he in that? Paul Dannemora? Yes. Oh. Him and Benicio are the leads. It's so good. Also, Patricia Arquette. Honey, you are... Her makeup. Oh my god. She looks like some down and out, like and she looks horrible and acts horrible.

And I am like, Patricia, I am convinced she's good too. You're a bad person. You give Benicio credit for acting and you're like, I'm convinced. And this woman looks like shit. No,

no, I'm saying she's so good in her character as well. She's an amazing actress because she, like most people when you're like, oh yeah, they're in ugly makeup. Like her, I literally kept thinking, is that what she looks like now? Or is she just so good at blending into this character as well that I'm starting to believe that's just what Patricia Arquette looks like. Is Benicio Del Toro actually showing range? Because he basically plays the same kind of character all the time.

True, but that's what I was surprised. He's like, I'm not going to really be that charismatic. I'm going to kind of hung up. But the thing is, he is charismatic. I think he's so sexy. I think he's underrated for how sexy he is. Right, right, right. I mean, I don't doubt that he's a good actor,

but I feel like he stays sort of within this range. In his ability to stay in that range, he still does something so different that it really impressed me in this role. I don't know. He's doing something different that it really impressed me in this role. I don't know. He's doing something different that's really working, and it is like he always plays some evil kind of intense dude. Not necessarily evil,

but just a very intense dude who's not afraid to shoot you with a gun in that weird way from that Sicario promo. I'm just telling you, there's something different going on here, and it is working. I don't even know what show you're talking about. It's a Showtime show.

No one's seen it. I've been trying to talk about it in the office for weeks. Well, I don't have Showtime. Yeah. I think Benicio Del Toro in Sicario is, I felt similarly about that. Like, I couldn't put into words how much I loved his performance in that. But it's the opposite in that it's, he is the most Benicio del Toro he's ever been. Yeah, in that role.

Yeah, in that role. It's just like, the script was like, Benicio del Toro enters the room. Benicio del Toro leaves. It's just like the greatest. Just Benicio? He Benicio's his way into the room. Yeah, well, it's funny,

because even he's in a fucking Star Wars movie and is still like Benicio is his way into the room. Right. Yeah, well, it's funny because even he's in a fucking Star Wars movie. Right. And it's still like Benicio. Yes. Where it's like, bro, this could be a fucking galaxy far, far away. Right. But Benicio is the universal language like mathematics.

That's right. We're saying Benicio so much that it's not becoming a real thing to me anymore. Oh, yeah. I'm like, what is a Benicio? Sorry, Fenicio Felforo. Felforo. All right, guys. Well, we want to leave you with that. Benicio Felforo. Fenicio Felforo. All right, guys. Well, we want to leave you with that.

Fenicio Felforo. Fenicio Felforo, yes. My boyfriend, Fenicio. All right, guys. That's going to do it for our Underrated Things of 2018. Thanks for listening. Allison, where can people find you and follow you? They can find me on Twitter and Instagram at

JustAboutGlad. Hey, Miles, how about you? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at FenicioFelforo. So, producer Anna, who's your name? I am also at FenicioFelforo, or you can find me at Anna Hoskin. And I'm at Jack underscore Brian. And that's going to do it

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