The Daily Zeitgeist - The News Is A Tarantino Film, Make Groping Legal Again 10.24.18

Episode Date: October 24, 2018

In episode 259, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Brandon Johnson to discuss 2018 being the year of costumes for black children, Megyn Kelly's thoughts on black face, updates on the Jamal Khashogg...i murder, the caravan that is scaring the right, Trump's new idea to give the middle class a tax cut, more GOP family members coming out and demanding we vote DEM, what the Trump organization really does, a man groping a woman on a plane and blaming Trump, Drake beating another Beatles record, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. 2018 Changed the Game for Halloween Costumes for Black Kids2. Megyn Kelly wonders what the big deal is about blackface3. How the man behind Khashoggi murder ran the killing via Skype4. Jamal Khashoggi case: All the latest updates5. Surveillance footage shows Saudi 'body double' in Khashoggi's clothes after he was killed, Turkish source says6. Saudi Royals Meet With Khashoggi’s Relatives7. @LindseyGrahamSC condemns Saudi prince over death of Jamal Khashoggi 8. Trump and G.O.P. Candidates Escalate Race and Fear as Election Ploys9. Trump’s Response to the Migrant Caravan Is Self-Defeating10. Trump’s stump speech for Ted Cruz included his seemingly fake middle-class tax cut11. 12 Laxalt family members oppose Laxalt for Nevada governor. Here's why, in their own words12. Is Fraud Part of the Trump Organization’s Business Model?13. Trump, Inc.14. Pump and Trump15. A Man Allegedly Groped a Woman on a Plane. He Told Investigators That Trump Says It’s OK.16. Drake just eclipsed one of the Beatles' most impressive records17. WATCH: Noname - Diddy Bop (ft. Raury & Cam O'bi) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:03 Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 54, Episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist! For Wednesday, October 24, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. He did the Jack. He did the Monster Jack. The Monster Jack. It was a graveyard smash. He did the Jack. It caught on in a flash. He did the jack. It caught on in a flash.
Starting point is 00:02:26 He did the jack. He did the monster jack. He worked at crack. Oh, yeah. That's pretty good. Hey, man, you should do that for a living. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. You are not alone.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Miles of gray is with you. Though you're far away, the saint is here to stay. Anyway, that is Michael Jackson. You are not alone if you didn't get that. And that comes from at God1Rita2. But your display name, Maurice Andrews. So shout out to you maurice and mine is courtesy of travis stock still at travis s butcher uh oh american butcher he is
Starting point is 00:03:13 a real butcher and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious brandon johnson Because y'all motherfuckers came out with that Michael Jackson Y'all came out with that Michael Jackson Man I had to You just do that for the rest of the show That was fucking awesome Man you already had to I'm just trying to keep up Did you just do that for the rest of the show? That was fucking awesome. Man, you already had to do it. I'm just trying to keep up. Yeah, boy.
Starting point is 00:03:49 You did more than keep up. Went into first place. Yeah. Now, I think my Monster Mash interpretation was better. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You were crushing it, man. I know. It was really good.
Starting point is 00:04:00 I mean, it was tight. I'm telling you, I had to come with the A-games. I mean, the thing that most listeners at home probably don't know is I was doing both voices, both the high-pitched one and the Dracula, and they probably thought it was like, you know. You got a backing band. All right, Brandon, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment, but first we're going to take our listeners through what we're talking about today. The goal of this show is we're trying to tell you guys what the nation and the world are thinking about today. Taking a deep dive into America's and the world's shared unconscious and conscious using the headlines, box office reports, what's trending on Google and social media.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Today, we are talking about 2018 as the year of costumes for black kids. Hey! Hey! Finally! And Megan Kelly wants to get in on that shit. Oh, shit. So she is upset that blackface isn't cool anymore. Someone just told her that, apparently.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Then we're going to get into some substantive shit about Khashoggi. We are going to talk about the midterms. We are going to talk about the Trump Organization's business, which turns out is fraud. We are going to talk about a guy who groped a sleeping woman on a plane because the president said it was okay. So we'll talk about that. And then we're going to talk about Drake, who just dunked on the Beatles again. But first, Brandon, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Them GMC RVs, my homie.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I love this. Like a recreational vehicle? Recreational vehicle. These GMC RVs are like when America was like, we need to make an RV in-house over at GM Motor Corporation. And they made them on a Toronado chassis. So they're like a dope-ass Buick with a refrigerator and a shower. Wow. How big are they?
Starting point is 00:05:57 They're 26, 24 feet long. And they are amazing. They look like the future. Oh, this thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's crazy because it really is a car that they made into an RV and it rides super low. There's no need for a stepladder. You can just jump up in it. It's got a refrigerator, a three burner cooker. Here's what I'm trying to say.
Starting point is 00:06:17 If you drink and do drugs like I do, you're going to need a vehicle. You're going to need a vehicle where you can say, walk out to it, stumble in it, fall asleep in it, wake up, take a shower, and then pretend to be normal again. Right, right. You know, a normal car doesn't work for me because the neighbors usually come out the house and go, you've been parked here for two or three days. Right. And you're wearing the same clothes. It kind of looks like a giant van. There you go.
Starting point is 00:06:40 It looks like a giant van. With, like, more windows and, yeah. Are you in the market for one? I'm in the market for one, man. If y'all send yours to pleasegetthisblackdudeahome.org because I'm trying to raise money, man. I'm trying to raise money, get this GMC RV. They were made from like 72 to 78. They're the big boys.
Starting point is 00:07:00 A lot of the pictures I'm seeing, yeah, have that sepia-toned 70s goodness. You want to get in there. Do yourself a favor. Come on down to Bob's and pick up an RV. So you get them used and they still run pretty well? They run pretty well because it's a basic 454 engine. There's not a lot of scarcity when it comes to parts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:20 You're a car guy. I do love cars, man. I love cars. It's crazy because I drive a Volvo wagon. It's crazy because I ride the bus. Love a a car guy. I do love cars, man. I love cars. It's crazy because I drive a Volvo wagon. It's crazy because I ride the bus. Love a car, though. Love a car. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:07:33 You always like vintage things, though. That's one thing I know about you. Even when you have a bike, I remember you were hand restoring some older bike. And I'm like, damn, Brandon is a craftsman. Because I'd be like, stop making new stuff. Man, I just figured this out, man. I came outside. There were new streetlights. They were halogen. And I was like, ah be like, stop making new stuff, man. I just figured this out, man. I came outside. There were new streetlights.
Starting point is 00:07:47 They were halogen. And I was like, ah, yeah, even the streetlights was new. Stop making new stuff, man. That's, yeah, Michael Mann. He always loved to feature LA's orange streetlights, right? That was like a whole thing about how that used to be the look of LA in films was our orange-tinted streetlights. And then as technology came around, oh, it's energy inefficient. We're burning up too much coal or whatever at the time.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Switched it to more energy efficient, and we lost our identity. Yeah, technology's never really done anything for anybody. To be honest. I don't even know what this podcast, I don't know what the fuck this is. These mics aren't plugged in. This is a radio show. This is a radio show. this is a radio show this is not new technology this is like 1930 we should be like oh look at my dog back in the day man
Starting point is 00:08:32 back in the day all they had was dogs yeah house blogs uh what is something you think is overrated overrated is um closed facebook groups closed Closed Facebook groups? Yeah. Okay. Those private, exclusive-ass Facebook groups. Okay. Yeah, that's pretty overrated. Because, you know, one, they're not that closed.
Starting point is 00:08:54 People can still see them. And two, you're not really getting nothing done. You're not. If you're like garage sales in Los Feliz, closed group. Why is that a closed group? Uh-oh. Who is going to infiltrate the garage sale group? Because I know there are groups that they make sense for them to be private because
Starting point is 00:09:10 they're talking about sensitive things. That's right. But then I said, there has to be a reason. And you went, Los Feliz garage sale group. Like, that sounds like something you were interested in. And they're like, I'm sorry. This is a closed group, Mr. Johnson. The Leimert Park Old Black People Society closed group.
Starting point is 00:09:26 What are y'all talking about? Black IP recipes? They're talking about the drum circle at Leimert Park that happens on Sundays. My dad is there all the time. Playing djembe. Ask him if he's seen my dad. Yeah. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:09:39 That's another show we have, Brandon. Yeah, where's my dad? A closed group. Oh, he's never going to get found. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated, No Name. She's a Chicago rapper up in the game. People are, they're into her,
Starting point is 00:09:53 but they need to be a little bit more into her. I always like to force people into giving other people props. There you go. Forced props. Forced props. Yeah, I think we've played a, oh, you know what
Starting point is 00:10:05 No we were going to play A no name track Maybe we have to play that tonight Chicago's got a lot of Really good Female MCs But they also have A lot of really good MCs
Starting point is 00:10:13 That people kind of sleep on Yeah And just artists too Like Raven Linnae Who's coming out of Chicago Love her Yep There's also this kid
Starting point is 00:10:20 Steve Lacey Yeah Who works with Raven Linnae all the time From the internet Yeah Now yes And I don't think Steve Lacey's from Chicago I think he's from The deeper. Yeah. Yeah. I work with Raven Lady May all the time from the internet. Yeah. Now, yes. And I don't think Steve Lacey's from Chicago.
Starting point is 00:10:27 I think he's from the deeper south. Yeah. But he's dope and he is underrated. Have you guys heard of this Chance guy? Oh, boy. Yo, you know what's funny? I watched on Amazon there was some Chance the Rapper slasher film. What?
Starting point is 00:10:40 Oh, really? With some other rapper and what's homeboy's name from SNL, Chris Parnell. And it was so weird. I got seven minutes in and I was like, I didn't even see Chance before. He didn't even show up and I had to turn it off. I'm a big fan of Chance, but I really got to tell you that Anderson.Paak is the money. Anderson.Paak is fucking dope. Honestly, Anderson.Paak's like Chance and Kendrick and
Starting point is 00:11:05 Mary J. Blige all rolled into one great male rapper. I just love that he drums and sings at the same time. And them suits,
Starting point is 00:11:13 man. The short pants suits is incredible. I watched his Bonnaroo and he wore it out and then got behind the drum set, wore the
Starting point is 00:11:20 drum set out, rapped at the same time, and then sang. I mean, he's ridiculous. Yeah, he's very talented.
Starting point is 00:11:25 That's why I call him the Phil Collins of rap. Drumming and... What is a myth, finally? What is something that people think is true you know to be false? That smoking weed causes... That smoking weed... What was the question?
Starting point is 00:11:50 What is a myth? What is a myth? A myth is something that people don't understand to be true, so they try to explain it away. Right. Okay, so what's your myth? What's a myth that you know? Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes!
Starting point is 00:12:02 That smoking weed is... That smoking weed causes... Just yes, yes, yes. That smoking weed is, that smoking weed caused you. Just read your paper, man. I wrote this? Brandon is so high right now. Memory loss. There it is. Memory loss. I'm not, you know, you didn't phrase it in the form of a question.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Oh, my bad. What is a myth? He knows. All right, guys. Let's get into the stories of the day. Let's get into the zeitgeist. Miles, this first story you put on here, that 2018 is the year of costumes for black kids.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I didn't realize. So on Slate, I go through all the interwebs, and they put this little article together, and I realized, yes, this was like a blockbuster year for black costumes for kids. I grew up dressing as white people as a kid. There weren't many, aside from me being like Magic Johnson one year or something like that. Right. There wasn't a lot always like a ready suit you could buy like out the bag,
Starting point is 00:13:02 like one of those costume bags or whatever. Also, my mom never bought me a bagged costume i should also have that caveat there but anyway this year with movies like you know black panther and solo a wrinkle in time shows like luke cage uh the new spider-man miles morales there are all there are so many costumes now for kids uh so they can you know represent uh themselves and uh look like the people they are, which is a very, yeah, I just thought it was a really dope thing. It may seem minuscule, but it's very good. It's not minuscule. No, I think it's a huge deal, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:31 My mom was awful at Halloween, and she made me Dracula, and then when she used a trash bag as my cape, and then when I threw that away because I was a smart child, she said, well, you have the suit on, so you'll be a a waiter and she handed me a white towel to drape over my arm damn a ridiculous ass costume right I gotta tell you she put coffee grounds on my face to give me some stubble because as a waiter I was a failure and I needed to have an unshaven face oh wow she gave you a backstory wait how did she get the coffee grounds stick She stuck them to my face with water Which then broke my face out as a child
Starting point is 00:14:09 So for Halloween I was two things I was an unloved child And an abused child With coffee ground induced acne That was better than when I was I was like 8 years old And she said you'll be Spiderman And she put me in a black leotard And some black tights That was better than when I was like eight years old and she said, you'll be Spider-Man.
Starting point is 00:14:28 And she put me in a black leotard and some black tights. And then she put tape on my body the way Spider-Man has all those different lines running across his body. So when I got to the party, I'm inside the party and a little girl comes over to me. At this point, all of the tape had wound up in a ball. All from the movement. From the movement. It had wound up on my chest in a ball. And this little comes to me she's like what are you following i was like i'm spider-man and she was like no no you're not no you are not oh yeah i remember one year that's effort though she put effort in
Starting point is 00:14:58 it's not effort it's not effort to wrap a child in tape again it is abuse i remember when speed came out i wanted to be a SWAT cop. And my mom was like, you're going to be a mad scientist. And she's like, put this dress shirt on. And I put a fucking white bathrobe on instead of a smock. And then she put a bunch of hairspray in my hair and just fucked it up. And I was like, here's your glasses. You're a mad scientist.
Starting point is 00:15:19 I'm like, I wanted to be fucking Jack Trapp from LAPD SWAT. But, you know, this is a different era, too. I think also with my mom, she was too practical to be like, why the fuck am I going to spend $50 on a bag costume? You can wear this robe, and I already got hairspray, and you were a mad scientist. Which now, I'm going to just buy all these fucking bag costumes. I don't know who I...
Starting point is 00:15:43 I'm actually... I don't know. You going to dress up for Halloween? No, I'm not't know who I... I'm actually... I don't know. You going to dress up for Halloween? No, I'm not going to dress up because I dress up in real life. No. Because, you know, I dress up in real life for my job. So I'm like, you know, it's really hard to beat hair and makeup. I feel like a failure again.
Starting point is 00:15:55 And as you've heard, the Holloway is traumatic for me. But I do make costumes. Like one year I was like Vanity Fair. So I blew up a Vanity Fair like five feet by three feet and then put my face through the hole. And it was the Paris Hilton edition. And she was topless in a pair of riding pants. And I just walked around parties and was like, I can't move or dance because I'm this big ass thing.
Starting point is 00:16:17 But I won, yo. Mama, I won. Mama, I grew up to win Halloween costumes, mama. At parties and stuff i became something vanity fair and somebody comes up to you goes no no no you're not well megan kelly maybe she saw
Starting point is 00:16:37 that same article because she has some thoughts about what she should and shouldn't be able to dress up as and we have a clip there was a controversy on the real housewives of new york with luann as she dresses diana ross and she made her skin look darker than it really is and people said that that was racist and i don't know i felt like who doesn't love diana ross she wants to look like diana ross for one day i i don't know how like that got racist on halloween it's not like she's walking around i haven't seen it oh you cut off my man jacob like she's walking around. I haven't seen it. Oh, you cut off my man, Jacob Soboroff, who then goes, I haven't seen it, but that sounds racist.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Yeah. And they're like, well, what's racist? Yeah. And it got, wow. Wow. Yeah. And a minute before that, she had said that,
Starting point is 00:17:18 like specifically said, like people think it's offensive for white people to dress up as black people or black people to dress up as white people. And I just don't see the big deal. Right. Like, it's offensive for white people to dress up as black people or black people to dress up as white people and i just don't see the big deal right and like it's like why is everyone so focused on race yeah uh says megan kelly right you know it's uh with the culture wars you know full full steam right now it makes sense that we're getting these takes around christmas i wonder who she would really want to dress up as i can't imagine there's a person of color that she respects that she would dress up as unless it's some kind of total caricature of something but yeah she probably respect kanye
Starting point is 00:17:53 yeah right oh my god can you imagine i bet you right that we're gonna see some white boys black the fuck up with the maga hat on with the ye Yeezys, and then have a Kardashian be like, yeah, we're Kanye, MAGA. And it's all good because Kanye wouldn't be mad because I'm a free thinker. They can use that influencer costume that we saw. Yeah, exactly, from Urban Outfitters, which is just basically like Heather Gray bandages that you wrap on your body. Yeah. Hmm. Megyn Kelly, I think, got a lot of credit for being like part of
Starting point is 00:18:27 the resistance and i think this is just yet another uh example of you know just because somebody has has a public feud with trump does not mean that they are remotely woke were people really trying to paint her though as some kind of hashtag resistance person yeah she was on the cover i mean all sorts of man right i remember that that thing but like just aside from that cycle did anyone even actually take that as like oh there's an ally well and then she went from fox news to mbc yeah but then she's saying shit like but then she's making she's still megan kelly and i am not speaking in defense i know of course not. No, no, no. You are, though, and you got a Megyn Kelly t-shirt on right now. All right, but this is from her woke period?
Starting point is 00:19:09 Right. This was her woke period. The only way that mummy could be woke is by the end of the curse. Right. Yeah, well, hey, you know. Dried up.
Starting point is 00:19:17 She's dried up, man. You know, but it's funny, like, Not her business, but her body. Yes, yes. It's calcifying. Yes. Well, you know, like you were saying, remember, before we started recording, Brandon, you were saying, like, in the beginning, people just used to just say shit like, well, I don't see the problem.
Starting point is 00:19:31 And they'd move on. And now we had to watch her hum and ha a little bit to try and come up with a reason. Like, well, if people want to dress like Diana, like, that's also not an argument to justify anyone wearing blackface. And if we're still trying to explain to people in 2018, like, the outs of blackface well god then it's 2018 also like i don't i'm not gonna try anymore like i literally i'm going to just be at the better party like there was this time where i felt like as a minority maybe the reason that people were racist is because they were ignorant and then you realize they're racist because they picked it they want to be racist so i'm like this on you feel free my dude stay as racist as They want to be racist. So I'm like this on you.
Starting point is 00:20:06 Feel free, my dude. Stay as racist as you want to. We know how much your party sucks. Right. So feel free. Kick it. Kick it as much as you want to. Sons, black people, Mexicans, Asian people, gay people, whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:16 But we know what your party looks like. It's like mashed potatoes with mayonnaise and some crackers. It's not going to be good. There's going to be no good music, no good spices, no good nothing. So I'm like, I don't have time anymore to educate people as to what's really going on out there. You're just going to have to listen and hear the music and smell the food and be like, what the fuck is that over there? Because by the way, that's the only ambassadorship we have. We're not going to be like, come in and learn our customs and do all this other shit. You can hear the music and smell the motherfucking spices from now on.
Starting point is 00:20:45 That's it. Just a bunch of dudes standing around punching each other while naming as many cereals as they possibly can. Welcome to the Proud Boys. Oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:56 they got, like, three more dudes got arrested. Oh, did they? Yeah, because NYPD was finally like, hey, I think they realize this looks mad racist and we're on their side if we're not really
Starting point is 00:21:04 investigating this. And, like, a couple people had to turn this looks mad racist, and we're on their side if we're not really investigating this. And a couple people had to turn themselves in. They arrested another guy. We'll see where it goes, but hey. So there was a big street brawl between Antifa and— Yeah, I think we talked about that last week. Yeah, between the Proud Boys and Antifa. Gavin McInnes did a reenactment of a Japanese socialist
Starting point is 00:21:20 being assassinated with a samurai sword. That was tight. And then, yeah, there were, like, some counter-protesters outside. And then right after the event, like, a group of Proud Boys decided to tussle with them. And, yeah. And then Antifa found video of the fight and just ID'd every single Proud Boy. It was wild. Like, before the NYPD was like, hey, if you have any information, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Meanwhile, on, like, far-left Twitter, everyone had been ID'd within moments. They're like, okay, these are everyone's names. Here's their LinkedIn pages. And they're like, does anyone have any info? The New York Antifa chapter cut some video with everybody wants to rule the world. We will find you. We will find you. We will.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Just looping their faces. Yeah yeah it was uh it's real yeah it's real it's so crazy that you never see proud boys in harlem because they're not proud it's not really that proud yeah they're not going up the past like maybe definitely not getting up to the 120s no of any city yeah i went down down to Maxine Waters' office last time they said they were going to go down. It was like maybe three, four months ago. They were like, we're sending people to Maxine Waters' office. And I was like, okay. Me too, me too.
Starting point is 00:22:35 You know where that is? Right. So it is like 120th. Yeah. And I was like standing there. I should not have been in that motherhouse. I was like, this is the only time I ever see this neighborhood. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Because there were cops but there were so many people out that they had to cancel. Yeah they canceled. They're like damn. They're like it's weird it's like black people don't like fuck around
Starting point is 00:22:53 with racism or some shit. Didn't realize. Yeah. Usually when I'm just pressing like yuppie white people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:00 It's easier but yeah. That was crazy dude. I'm like you did not you didn't geotag where you all were headed. Right. Yeah. You know what I'm saying. was crazy dude i'm like you did not you didn't uh geotag where you all were headed right yeah you know what i'm saying yeah because i'm like even i was like hey y'all gonna get killed pull up with that energy over there right literally you have the wrong fucking place to be doing that all right we're gonna're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
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Starting point is 00:27:14 Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and we wanted to check in on the story of jamal kashoggi's murder in the saudi embassy uh because yeah just a lot of crazy details trickling out uh courtesy of Turkey. Yeah. And one of them is that, you know, so the Saudi government eventually came out with their story, which they were like, hold on, we're still working on our investigation, which was just like three guys behind a door somewhere, just like testing out different stories. And they finally came out with Khashoggi, came in to the consulate, and then just started a fistfight with like 18 dudes who just happened to be there or something. And then they had to kill him. So yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:12 that was their story. And Turkey released all sorts of details that kind of fly in the face of that. Yeah, because Turkey's in an interesting position too right now. A lot of foreign investment has left the country. There are sanctions against them. And they're kind of playing this like they're slow leaking stuff to try and get the Saudis to be like, hey, if you want to start investing here, maybe we can get rid of some of these tapes. But they're really loving being messy as shit right now because on one side, they get to drive a wedge between the West and the Saudis. And another one, they can possibly get money for their economy. But either way, they seem to know a lot. And the more they leak, the more this shit looks like a straight-up Tarantino flick.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Where, like, you know, the news over the weekend was, you know, initially before the, oh my, yo, I don't know how he died in that fist fight and got chopped up. But, you know, fist fights. The initial story when he disappeared was like, nah, I don't know her. I think he left. Check the video. Right. chopped up but right you know fist fights um the initial story when he disappeared was like no we don't i don't know her uh right i think he left check the video right and it turns out that one of the dudes in the 15 man uh harlem or harem globetrotters assassin squad that came through
Starting point is 00:29:18 was a guy meant to be a body double to dress as jamal khashoggi. So right after, I guess they must have disrobed him, someone wore his clothing, put on a fake beard, walked out the back of the consulate so he would be on CCTV. They didn't even have a guy with a beard. They went with a fake beard. And Homeboy didn't even wear the same shoes. Like you could tell the whole thing was like, dude, the guy's just wearing his clothes. And then they sent him. He went to the Blue Mosque and was basically trying to, I think, just appear on CCTV
Starting point is 00:29:47 so they could be like, hey, he was there. Even though his worried fiance was outside in the front, why would he go out the back, even though he was there to get his divorce papers? And then he went into a party and was like, I'm Jamal Khashoggi, and that little girl from Brandon's party was like, no, you're not. No, you're not.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Look at your shoes, motherfucker. You are part of the security services. You are wearing a fake beard that is falling off. So then that was one element. And then the next thing is we find out that there were basically four calls that were made from the consulate to the royal offices in Saudi Arabia whileia like while the torture was going on and then one call went to the u.s huh but we don't know what that is which is very interesting and i won't speculate because we can already smell shit a mile away uh but then you know the next thing that we find out it just gets the layers just keep adding up so like that's why we can wait three days and
Starting point is 00:30:43 we can just spend 15 minutes talking about how fucking horrific this whole thing is. So then on top of that, we found out that one of the heads of intelligence Skyped in to the Saudi consulate while they were killing Jamal Khashoggi, basically. Heads of Saudi intelligence who reports directly to MBS, right? Right, exactly. And they said they were at one point he was hurling insults at Khashoggi. Khashoggi apparently clapped back with his insults. And then according to the Turkish intelligence, they said that's when this official who was on the Skype call in Saudi Arabia just said, bring me the head of the dog. And then closed the laptop and just did whatever the fuck they proceeded to do.
Starting point is 00:31:27 So, yeah, this whole thing is just getting darker and darker and then on monday uh muhammad bin salman and the king had received khashoggi's sons to the palace to offer their condolences to them and it is one of the most like i don't know like cringy not cringeingy makes me die inside to like look at MBS like shaking the hand of his son and acting like I don't know what happened man we're gonna get to the bottom of this and it's just gets darker by the minute and every minute you have people like Trump
Starting point is 00:31:56 and Jared Kushner being like well let's see what happens or like oh you know we got this huge arms deal where we're creating false stakes that aren't gonna impact jobs here like we're trying to make it seem like. And it's just getting messier and messier. Yeah. And as super producer Ana Hosni, I pointed out like the whole fuel thing and the idea that like we are completely dependent on them for fuel is not really true anymore. It's more just a strategic alliance and a political alliance because
Starting point is 00:32:25 when the Trump administration started out, they went all in on, you know, fuck Iran, let's go all Saudi Arabia, which, you know, they have a hostile relationship. The Obama administration had been more, let's work with Iran so that we're not totally dependent on this one power. And the Trump administration went full, let's prop this dude MBS up. So it's not a – They got to hold him to a fifth and sixth world power. And that's the bottom line is that that asset oil is as good as gold. It's as good as silver. It's as good as diamonds.
Starting point is 00:33:02 And if you have gold, silver, diamonds, you are pushed down before you can ever think about coming in because they fully understand I see when I say they I Legit mean Europe Understands that we trickle down from the top of this mug we come down to the south and we get all the assets They know the game right the the Khashoggi shit is hilarious to me because I'm in this, not the death of, but it's hilarious to me in that you will have the average American sit here and give you the details of the Star Wars universe. Talk much shit about Game of Thrones. And then when you say this shit is happening right now for the same reasons, they're like, I don't understand international policy. I don't get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 What do you mean British Petroleum didn't want to split revenue with Iran when they first found oil there? So then they sent people from the U.S. to destabilize it and put in a public government that would play ball with them? I don't know what that means. I don't know what that storyline is. I can't follow it. That person was really knowledgeable for not knowing what you meant by that. But yeah, it's – and then like when we talk about how MBS had that full court press of trying to revitalize his image from buying magazines and things like that. He also played – I don't know if he played a lot of people, but you have people like Lindsey Graham now who now that the evidence is overwhelming in terms of the kind of evil that transpired in this situation, acting like, I can't believe what happened.
Starting point is 00:34:31 And I listened to Lindsey Graham just be fully just shocked that, hey, how dare he? I don't mind military sales, but I cannot do business with the current leadership, MBS. He's done to me. MBS talks about reforming the country in a way that I liked. I've never felt more used in my life. I introduced him when he was in Washington. But he imprisoned the Lebanese prime minister. He embargoed the country of Qatar without telling us. And I believe he is responsible for the killing of Mr. Kosogi in the most brutal way.
Starting point is 00:34:58 And I will never go back as long as he's there. You'll never convince me that he didn't do this. But you didn't know this was going down. Also, the thing is that I'll never ever sit at his dinner table again. That's the punishment? Right. I'm done with him.
Starting point is 00:35:15 This is not The Bachelor. Yeah. And just a reminder that we talk on this show about the Bloids, Bloid Watch, and how there's this whole tabloid empire run by David Peckar, who is Trump's main homie, and when MBS was going on his tour of the Western world where he was winning over Western powers,
Starting point is 00:35:39 and there was a New York Times op-ed by Thomas Friedman about what a dope guy MBS is, calling him MBS and being like, this guy's got great ideas. I mean, what can I say? David Pegar had a tabloid that was all just MBS being like, great guy. MBS, great guy. Great guy. Like MBS Weekly is basically what it was. With no ads in it.
Starting point is 00:36:03 No ads. Let's talk about that because they paid so much money to just print a book of just fantasy talk about him. Right. So, you know, Trump was calling him favors on behalf of this dude. It's going to be hard to convince him. But, you know, it's just putting him in a weird place because now they're finding themselves in a place where the facts, it's really hard to lie their way out of this. Right. That's why Trump, on one hand, has to be like, well, you know, I don't want these deals to follow through.
Starting point is 00:36:27 We can't just throw alliances out the window like this over one killed journalist. But then on the other hand, be like, I really don't like what I'm seeing. Right. You know, and it's like, you can't have it both ways. Yeah. Also, if they really wanted to get down,
Starting point is 00:36:39 they'd have gotten down. They'd have figured out who did it, how to prosecute these people. I mean, there's an Interpol. It's not like the U.S. is working with Interpol. I came in on the way today, and there were like three different places are working on this. And I was like, well, those three places are the most corrupt places on the planet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:55 It's like the cats are really trying to figure out what's going on with these birds disappearing. Right. Yeah, there is a great tweet that sort of producer Ana Hosnier shared with us that was a cat with a dead rat. And it says he died accidentally while I was questioning him. Yeah. Yeah. I thought there was like an argument to be made from an international relations, like the realist standpoint that we need Saudi Arabia because of, you know, brinksmanship. And like we need allies in that part of the world and we need their oil.
Starting point is 00:37:27 But it turns out that's not even true. It's more just like Trump and he kind of put himself out on a limb to back this guy, and now it's just making him look stupid. Yeah, and sadly they can disrupt a lot of the global economy just because of how dependent we are just in general on the fossil fuel, how fossil fuels play an important part in the region and the rest of the world. They do have this power to to also shake shit up if they want to. So it's a very. Yeah. But somebody was saying that even if they do like shut down all exports, U.S. like fracking would just go up. There's enough fuel in the world now that
Starting point is 00:38:07 you actually don't... They don't have as much power as they used to in that respect, which is why MBS felt the need to go on this diplomacy thing. It used to be that they could just do 9-11 and just be like, hey, but we got all the oil, so why don't you go attack Iraq instead? And now, because fuel is coming from so many different places and it's more of an international good, people don't have to listen to the Saudi- Sure. Well, I think it would immediately affect the Middle East first, though. Right. Then up, then us.
Starting point is 00:38:40 That's the game. Oil production. The game is to get the Middle East to use all of their oil up first. And then Russia and the United States will have the largest oil stocks in the world. So if you knew you had a diminishing supply of something, you would get your rivals, obviously, to burn through theirs. And that's what the United States policy is going to be. It's going to be, we sit on oil reserves, you guys give us your stock, and then when things turn badly, we've got all the oil. And you know this because most presidents open up the strategic oil reserves you guys give us your stock and then when things turn badly we've got all the oil and you know this because most presidents open up the strategic oil reserves clinton used to do
Starting point is 00:39:10 it i think obama did it once this president is like no we'll do it to break the saudis per barrel price right but we're not going to do it to to give the american consumer a break on their gas prices right right so you know that we're about to go into a cycle, November, December, and January is when they're going to hit us all for gas increases. But guys, the midterms are coming up. So let's talk about things that are going to affect real Americans, like the caravan of immigrants who are heading north for, I mean, they must be just feet away from the U.S.-Mexican border based on the reporting on Fox News. And full of, Trump didn't even say terrorists.
Starting point is 00:39:54 He just said Middle Easterners. Yeah. Like he kind of. He was like, look inside there. There's MS-13. There's criminals and Middle Easterners. There's Middle Easterners. So is that just bad on its own that they're
Starting point is 00:40:05 from the Middle East? I don't... Well, again, you know, because it's not even a dog whistle. It's just a racist fucking flare gun he sets off that's just basically like, don't look at this as people trying to avoid the hardships or the fact that we're in bed with the Honduran government
Starting point is 00:40:22 that's exacerbating the problem and just focus on the fact that these are terrorists. Right. These are barbarians at the gate. Yeah. They're going to fuck everything up. And they are 1,700 miles away and traveling on foot. At a pace of six miles an hour.
Starting point is 00:40:39 Who will stop them? Will it be a breeze? Rain? Maybe even an uphill incline? How will we stop these people? I hear the numbers go from like, there's 100 people, to like, there's 7,000. There's 70,000. How will we stop 7,000 people from getting into the United States?
Starting point is 00:40:57 I don't know. A bus? Right. Two buses parked sideways? Do we not have a gate? People are worried that they're they're just gonna oh you know like just pull up yeah 7 000 deep we could have stopped if there had been like 5 000 maybe 6 000 7 000 people how do you catch all those people because again it's just to
Starting point is 00:41:15 you know incite the the base and just get them on this this like racist paranoid fantasy of uh brown people moving towards the thing and again it it's only presenting this story as like they're coming to harm us, not we've harmed their countries and made it unsustainable for them. So therefore, they are migrating to find better lives. They are walking through very dangerous country and they're walking as a group because that's the only safe way to like walk through that part of the world without any protection and it's full of women and children and as any group of 7 000 people would be it's probably has some people in there who aren't
Starting point is 00:41:59 women and children who aren't great but like that's people are willing to just go with this group because it sucks where they're coming from. But it just underlines, again, how Trump knows fuck all in this administration. At every turn, their answer to a problem is some kind of self-defeating solution where it's like, hey, I'm going to solve immigration. Okay, we're going to build a wall. Okay, that didn't work. Okay, how about this? I'm going to be so fucking inhumane to people that they'll never come. Okay, we're going to build a wall. Okay, that didn't work. Okay, how about this?
Starting point is 00:42:25 I'm going to be so fucking inhumane to people that they'll never come. Wait, they're still coming. Okay, then my next thing is I'll pull all my aid to the countries that they're coming from to even worsen the situation. Like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, there's nothing even reasonably. You're like, that, no, no, no, no. None of these are actual solutions.
Starting point is 00:42:45 And for a while, he was like, well, they got to – we have to – like their countries have to be great again so they don't leave or whatever. But every time he's proposed slashing our aid to Central America, luckily Congress is like, okay, maybe we'll take a little bit off, but nothing close to the cuts you're asking for. And also he doesn't have the power to just be like, okay, cutting aid like that. That again, because he doesn't also understand how the, just the general government operates. But yeah, it's just a very, every solution is just, is exacerbates the issue. And he has no, there's no awareness. And then even again, he was over the weekend talking about a tax cut. He was going to give people.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Yep. Middle class tax cut. Yeah. Oh, 10% by next week, right? And like in the middle of a rally, putting somebody like in the corner, like, yo, don't make it hot for me. I can't guarantee a tax because like 10% by next week, you'll see it. And then a reporter was like, hey, my man, Congress isn't even in session. You know, they have to do that.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And he's like, yeah, but we're going to have a resolution and blah, blah, blah. And like, they're like, but what do you mean? There's no one, no one can vote on that. And he's like, yeah, but we'll do the vote after. And it's blah, blah. And they're like, but what do you mean? No one can vote on that. And he's like, yeah, but we'll do the vote after. And it's like, so then how are you going to get the tax cut? And he's like, we'll figure it out. You got to trust me. You should see some of the shit that I'm pulling off already.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah. I'm actually just able to lie. Yeah. And no one questions it unless it's a fucking think for yourself or like you. Yeah. It's about to get real grassroots up in this motherfucker because people are gonna figure it out there if we lose midterms which there's a significant chance that we could lose midterms it's possible it's not significant but it's in the realm i don't know i
Starting point is 00:44:14 guess that's also me not even wanting to entertain that idea but i'm like you know dig in everybody you know dig in hide your wives hide your kids even if we win the midterms hide your wife hide your kids because the backlash from that shit's gonna be insane as well i always do in my basement just one one uh detail that i thought was amazing in a new york times article they interviewed a republican in northern minnesota named carol shields 75 oh carol i love carol man yeah well. Well, hold on. Wait till you hear her take it. She said she was afraid that migrant gangs could take over people's summer lake homes
Starting point is 00:44:50 in the state of Minnesota. What's to stop them, said Ms. Shields, a retired accountant. We have a lot of people who live on lakes in the summer and winter someplace else. When they come back in the spring, their house could be occupied. What fucking chain email did she get forwarded? Yo, but this is the thing. Right. It's very, very, like his rhetoric,
Starting point is 00:45:13 his idea, just saying, yeah, we're going to pass tax cuts even though it's like technically impossible. Like that shit just works with people because they've stopped, like the whole, the media is the enemy thing. He is the only source of information for the people who follow him. He's like, who was the leader of the M. Night Shyamalan movie, The Village?
Starting point is 00:45:32 Who was the head dude of The Village? I forget. Let's just call him The Village Mayor. Was it William Hurt or something? Anyway, was just sort of being like, yeah, you don't want to go out there. Right. It's fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Believe me. I already know. You don't want to ask questions. There there's nasty monsters just stay in here everybody shut the fuck up we'll be okay and like these people like just lack such real world experience of whether they even understand how what the life of a person who is uh migrating or what like how people begin to squat on a vacation home like what are these people going on uh fucking zillow or something like there hasn't been much activity on this property like let me go squat over here like what are they what do they think people are doing and again the only reason you can leave an operating there is a probably because you so badly want to believe
Starting point is 00:46:19 that people who are immigrating this country are evil or you're just so ignorant that all you need is a trump or a chain email to tell you, oh, there was a vacation home where someone was squatting and it may have been immigrants, to then go, oh, yeah, that's what happens now. Everybody's home. Yeah. Just a little reminder, we don't want your lifestyle. We don't want your shit.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Nobody wants to live in your lake house. That's baller to you. Right. What's baller to us is hanging out with each other not some secluded ass location and i love lakes i'm really into the the vacation lifestyle but we ain't trying to live in minnesota it's cold bro right it's cold and also just presupposes that these people are criminals just off top rather than this is someone who yeah they're coming here to fucking steal your your lake house no these people coming here because they're trying to better their lives,
Starting point is 00:47:08 and they're not trying to go from A to Z suddenly. They're like, oh, yeah, I'm walking from Honduras to Beverly Hills, and I'm just going to kick a door down, and this is my life. My house now. Like a lake house has ever appeared in an A$AP Rocky video. When you start seeing your shit appear in our videos, then you can be nervous. Until then, just go ahead and keep that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Winnetka. Just ASAP Rocky, just swatting at mosquitoes. Minnesota is real bad for mosquitoes in the summertime, guys. Yeah. All those lakes. Yeah, good to know. Another GOP candidate's family is begging you to vote for not him this in nevada it's amazing because first year like people like bob goodlott's son was being like my dad sucks and
Starting point is 00:47:52 then there's that other guy who all his siblings were in that ad be like and i know he sucks because i'm his brother i'm his sister and now there's another op-ed for this guy uh i may be pronouncing his name wrong adam waxalt he's he's running for governor in nevada he's the republican candidate and his family members published an op-ed in the reno gazette being like please don't vote for our brother he's full of shit like essentially is what it boils down to they're like for starters the man's claiming he's from nevada first of all yes he was born in reno and then we moved the fuck out of there when he was a baby and lived in D.C.
Starting point is 00:48:26 for all of our lives. He only moved back in 2013 when he wanted to become a politician. Next point. He acts like he's some folksy dude.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And then like they're bringing up this thing that he did like the Basque fry which was like you know, they had like hay bales and things
Starting point is 00:48:40 and this is the thing. They were talking about how like he has like this fake aura and this is from a quote from it. Adam is dressed in a, quote, Western shirt, monogrammed with his campaign logo, quote, work boots and jeans that look like they were ordered off Amazon the week before. If Adam is elected governor, these values will be put in danger. So they're talking about how he's just a train wreck.
Starting point is 00:49:00 They just go down a list, and it shows you that people are starting to just sort of get fed up with other people's bullshit, too, because they're just being like, man, before it was fine when he was just trying to be a politician or whatever. But I think they're seeing how aggressively full of shit some people are, and they're like, I'm sorry. I have to air this dude out. Yeah, start snitching. This is too much. Yeah, and you got to start snitching. Start snitching because just like the Germans were like, man, somebody turned our family into the Nazis, you could do the shit on the left too. You could be like, the homeboy is not a liberal at all.
Starting point is 00:49:30 This dude is straight up saying that he bought Toms, but he don't wear Toms. He wears Toms to work, and then he goes home and he puts on baby ostrich made by small, small African children who get beat up by small Asian children paid to do that. We need white people. It's a vicious cycle. White people, y'all got to start snitching. White people, y'all got to start snitching. Dudes, y'all got to start snitching on dudes that you know be super creepy. Don't wait until people come forward. Don't wait until your black friend is like, that person's a little racist.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Don't wait for your girlfriend to come and be like, that dude's a little creepy. Start snitching. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
Starting point is 00:50:18 The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state and she paid the ultimate price Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or of the Happiness Lab podcast. As the U.S. elections approach, it can feel like we're angrier and more divided than ever.
Starting point is 00:51:10 But in a new, hopeful season of my podcast, I'll share what the science really shows, that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. With the help of Stanford psychologist Jamil Zaki. It's really tragic. If cynicism were a pill, it'd be a poison. We'll see that our fellow humans,
Starting point is 00:51:33 even those we disagree with, are more generous than we assume. My assumption, my feeling, my hunch is that a lot of us are actually looking for a way to disagree and still be in a relationship with each other. All that on the Happiness Lab. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch
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Starting point is 00:52:44 so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months.
Starting point is 00:53:09 These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. And we're back. And we're have to make new merch start snitching start snitching snitches get rich hugs snitches get riches snitches get rich all you need is one dude to like have a whole glow up from being like the wokest frat dude like guys i gotta put this whole frat on blast. And then he gets a deal and then like, hey, snitches get riches. That would be awesome. Check this out, man. It's video.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It's video of this dude dropping roofies into girls' drinks. And this is video of us beating his ass. Oh, world star. That's pretty soon. I mean, yeah, that change has to come internally. That change has to come. That's pretty soon. I mean, yeah, that change has to come internally.
Starting point is 00:54:44 That change has to come. We'll do a Twitter poll on whether snitches get riches or snitches get hugs is the better catchphrase. I can't spend no hug. I hug my landlord, I get evicted, bro. I know from experience. Right. He's like, you have an erection. I want next month's rent. an erection. I want next month's rent. So I wanted to talk briefly because there's been a story that's been sort of slowly trickling out over the past couple of weeks just about what the Trump
Starting point is 00:55:13 organization's business actually is. Adam Davidson, a New Yorker writer, this has kind of been his beat for the past year, basically, just kind of keeping an eye on all investigations into the business side of at the history of the Trump organization, they go from one business to a completely unrelated business to a completely unrelated business. And these are businesses where you don't raise money in the same way. You don't raise money from the same people. All of the things are different in a way that it makes no sense that you would- Like a snake oil salesman who goes from town to town where no one knows what they're up to. Talking medicine that basically has the same ingredient, which is alcohol.
Starting point is 00:56:13 Right. Interesting. of luxury buildings to casino company to brand licensing firm to like just seller of its name on buildings and bottled water it's like none of those things really contribute to one another but we do because we live in hollywood right so we see we understand this concept and the truth of the matter is like old boy builds buildings casinos are very large buildings he knows a bunch of builders that makes sense. If a guy is an interior designer and he suddenly moves to cruise ships, that makes sense to me because a cruise ship is a space and he's good at doing spaces. So I get how he's doing it.
Starting point is 00:56:54 It's that they keep moving around and burning people from business to business. And that they're able to raise capital because they become corporations. That's the thing that people need to look at. It's like, this dude has so many businesses that are illegal right that there's got to be some laundering going on oh yeah and he's so old school mafia that he's got to be guilty of something that a prosecutor even a base level i'm trying to tell you you could send the nypd to trump's house and they would find some shit. I guarantee it. Yeah. So I knew about the New York Times story that was like 30,000 words, like too many words to read the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:57:32 But basically it was all about how the Trump organization was founded with money from Trump's dad. Trump always said he only took a $1 million loan that he paid back from his dad. And he was a millionaire by the time he was eight and was just getting all sorts of money and finding different ways to avoid paying taxes on it, most of them legal, some of them questionable in terms of their legality. But there was also a WNYC investigation that came out last week that was all about how the trump organization does deals internationally and it's basically like this shit is all fraught greece bro yeah it's basically
Starting point is 00:58:12 greece where like they just get money from countries where you know nobody would borrow money from get money yeah go to turkey get money Just deceptive borrowing. Yeah. Getting people to buy in. And then just the project gets shuttered. Right. The Trump organization makes off with money and a bunch of other people get screwed and they go from one country to the other doing that. Yeah. And then what are you going to do? So like he builds a building and he uses crooked contractors and those contractors have street level operatives who you're a legit dude. You just wanted to put the mirrors in a Trump hotel, right? But the concrete company is a little dirty. It's got some guys who will show up at your house and he knows that.
Starting point is 00:58:54 That's the difference between Trump and everybody else is that we're all fucking with the mob and gangs. We're dealing with like, oh, somebody needs a TV. This dude is the syndicate. The syndicate is really rich white dudes who are the mob. It's a control of all the rest of the shit. It's the people who own the planes.
Starting point is 00:59:10 The people who own the poppy fields. It's those cats. He's always been with those cats, dude. He's been filthy since he was a kid. Yeah. And his daddy was filthy. Yeah. Oh, really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:59:22 It's like the Kennedys, only less class. Because Joe Kennedy was a bootlegger. Right. And then he wanted to get out the business, so he put his kids into politics. And that's what we're watching right now. Right. Yeah. And when our future president, Ivanka Trump,
Starting point is 00:59:36 Fuck. Danes to run. Could you? Oh, it's happening. She's not going to run. She's going to be like an gonna be like She's gonna be like An ambassador And like
Starting point is 00:59:46 Selling black Who knows man You fucking think about it He's like I'm not gonna run in 2020 Ivanka is Yeah I bet she'll
Starting point is 00:59:54 Come away from This Presidency If not in prison She'll be like The things I saw this Do to my father The mainstream media
Starting point is 01:00:02 Right right Totally uncalled for And I I will never be a politician. Please watch out for Nikki Haley showing up on the scene all of a sudden. Oh, she's scheming. Yeah. We saw that. I saw the move coming from a mile away. Also, I love how everybody get out there right after either, A, they're about to do some dirt, or they just did some dirt.
Starting point is 01:00:23 With Nikki Haley, I'm like I'm like oh boy we kill a journalist in an embassy and now you know interesting because wouldn't this have been under your jurisdiction is something to look into the UN I don't know whatever whatever and just saying that Heshogji said that the thing that made MBS like tell him to stay quiet and I've said this almost every time we talk about this, was when he criticized Trump. That could have just been like, you're fucking up my money.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Yeah, could have. But also he did go after the prince directly. Yeah, he did. And that shit, he should have a little bit of known... Well, no, I wouldn't say a little bit of known better. Thank you for your service. Yeah, seriously. Do we know when his sons showed up at the palace was
Starting point is 01:01:06 that just like out of fear for their life yeah essentially yeah super producer anna hosnia just informed us one of the sons has a travel ban and cannot leave the country so yeah yeah i mean this photo is frightening it will it will shake you to your core he's just like shaking he's like yeah i'm sorry about your dad yeah and the kid you could just tell like he's shaking the hand of the person responsible for his father's death right like grisly death yeah what a fucking demented power move to put on somebody yeah like that but that is that old but that's that shit yeah that's that 3bc type shit yeah you know all. Let's talk about this Mother Jones story.
Starting point is 01:01:49 A Florida man, always the start of a good news story, was arrested Sunday after allegedly groping a woman who had been sleeping on a plane. Yep. And he told authorities that President Donald Trump said it was acceptable to, in the words of a federal criminal complaint, quote, grab women by their private parts. Yes. I was, yeah, groped a sleeping woman on the plane.
Starting point is 01:02:14 And, yeah. I mean, it was only a matter of time, I think, because clearly his racist actions brought all the closeted racists to be like, oh, OK, let me take my mask off. actions brought all the closeted racists to be like oh okay let me take my mask off uh and it was only a matter of time before i mean i'm you look at the people we just confirmed to the supreme court and shit like that of course like i thought this would happen before racists yeah right like ah whatever i mean like he said we have president pussy grabber like what's the problem yeah and shit is up i mean sexual assaults are up racist crimes are up you know i'm not surprised that he did that yeah and i'm not surprised that he used that as a defense i wouldn't be surprised if it worked right right at the point that we're at if they were in an all-male jury with a judge and all
Starting point is 01:02:56 men prosecutors and defense attorneys if somebody was like yeah well the trump defense is uh it's working in a lot of cases across the country right It's the best thing since Stand Your Ground. Yeah. And, I mean, it does seem like, yeah, it seems like we've seen his behavior sort of have a backlash effect with the Me Too movement. But it is probably the time where we're going to start seeing the backlash to that backlash. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess I don't want to. With Kavanaugh. Yeah. probably the time where we're going to start seeing the backlash to that backlash yeah well i mean i guess i don't want to with kavanaugh yeah and i'm not trying to present it as if like oh no one was being groped on airplanes prior to this i mean this has always been an issue but like
Starting point is 01:03:32 to have people just be like oh why did i do it because my logic is the president said this is this is 2018 20 whatever uh and there's no loss. All right, guys, let's talk about Drake. Oh, my goodness. This man, even when he loses, he wins. It's true. There's something, you know, I don't know what his secret is. Maybe that he's just really good at collaborating with artists that will guarantee him hits like Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny?
Starting point is 01:04:01 Yeah. But that track, M.I.A., basically put him above the Beatles now because now he has the most Hot 100 top 10 songs in a single year. In 64, the Beatles had 11. Hard Day's Night, Can't Buy Me Love, etc. And this year, Drake has 12. So, I mean, it's... He's on a run. Can't be stopped.
Starting point is 01:04:23 Yeah. Can't be stopped. He's on a hell of a run. Do you like Drake? I liked, I'm going to be honest, like, I like some Drake. Sure. And I certainly liked him when he first started out. I think everyone did, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:35 There's a track where he's like, I'm trying to do this thing where I sing now. I hope it works out. And I was like, really dope because his rappers go, he's probably one of the few that can sing and rap at the same time. I mean, kind of sing. Kind of sing. He can whineine he gets auto-tuned yeah yeah he can whine in a melodic way but he was such a kid and he seemed authentic initially and then some of the stuff what i would like is if his you know it's my two cents i'll keep it much shorter than this next time but it'd be cool if if his comments women changed. I hope that he matures as a man. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I mean, he seems to be friends with a fucking bunch of children, too. Right. I don't know why the fuck. Man, was Millie Bobby Brown giving her dating advice? Shutting the restaurant down for that 18-year-old that he's been smoking since she was 14. So you think the shoe's going to drop with this dude also? I don't know, man. We need to keep a very close eye on Aubrey, Aubrey Graham. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Yeah, I do think it's important to be a mentor, but, you know, you could have been a mentor to some A, girls that weren't already gorgeous celebrities. That's how you can always tell when a man is front and he's like, oh, yeah, I sponsor ladies. You know, I'm good to everybody. But then you look at all the ladies that he sponsors and you're like, but they're all gorgeous, B. Right. You don't have nobody in there that's like, you know. That doesn't look like just Instagram thirst trap or something. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:54 That you're not trying to have sex with. Or celebrity, right. That you're not in your mind. So I'm like. Hey, the guy's playing a video. You know, he was handing out money to whoever. But you know what? It's amazing to me that that shit always pisses me off.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Oh, yeah. Because I'm like, my dude, your budget was a million. You handed out a million. But you know what? It's amazing to me that that shit always pisses me off. Oh, yeah. Because I'm like, my dude, your budget was a million. You handed out a million. But you're worth so much money. Yeah. And also long-term gains. I think you understand endowment. And also, you're just exploiting these people's need so you can just flex in a video.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Right. Like, come the fuck on. Right. Just why don't you do some actual philanthropic work and not make it a music video and not do it for everybody to be like, yo, the God's plan video. Right. He made that one family cry with money. Right.
Starting point is 01:06:30 That's a reflection of our economy and our society, not him being a deity. And God needs better representation because a lot of people would be jacking him and then be like, thank God for this. Right. Like, wow, God is getting screwed on these deals. It's like you're fucking up God's brand. Right. Like, wow, God is getting screwed on these deals. It's like, you fucking up God's brand. Right. But I mean, Drake is kind of getting to that level of success, that like Elvis, Michael Jackson level where like, it's not.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Slowly. Slowly. I mean, in terms of hits. I'll give you, but I'm going to tell you like, the stats don't hold up because if we're talking streams and shit, that's how he's getting these. Right, right, right. So that's not really fair. I'll give him his and shit, that's how he's getting me. Right. Right. So that's not really fair. I'll give him his props.
Starting point is 01:07:07 I just mean how dominant as an artist he is. I'm not going to go and be like, I mean half, like, you know, most of his recent albums have been filler basically. Like each album has like maybe two songs. You're like,
Starting point is 01:07:18 Oh, that was, he used to have albums where the whole album was good. Right. Uh, but you know, God bless him. I think congratulations on your success.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I'm not trying to be a hater or nothing, but I will also call it spade to spade and say, like, these are the issues. I started hanging out with women who are your age. That'd be nice. Yeah. That'd be nice. Brandon, as always, it's so fun having you in studio, man. I'm so happy to be here. Thank you so much for having me, man.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Oh, yeah. Keep coming back. Where can people find you? You know, a lot of stuff I got coming out, it's going to be animation, so it's going to be two years from now. Damn, for real? Like literally two years from now? It's a nightmare because I got bills that have to be paid right now.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I'm trying to get into clubs right now. I'm trying to do stuff right now. That payment is on a net $700. Right. That's two years. Also, thanks for like two years from now I'll be animated famous. Right. But you still won't
Starting point is 01:08:07 even recognize me. My life sucks, basically, is what I'm trying to tell you. You can see me outside. I'll be in front of the building, man, trying to get this money. Isn't that good fame, though? That people won't recognize
Starting point is 01:08:16 you on the street, but you'll still have the money? Not when you're trying to get stuff done. Oh, okay. Not when you're trying to get stuff done. Yeah, or convince people
Starting point is 01:08:21 that you're successful. They're like, oh, what are you doing? I'm like, well, in two years. Right. She's like, oh, what are you doing? I'm like, well, in two years. Right. They're like, okay, sir. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:29 All right, and is there a tweet or some other piece of media? Because I know you're not on Twitter. Man, I'm not on Twitter. Y'all never getting these jokes for free, man. Come see my shows, man. All right, where's your next show? I'll probably be doing a Harmontown. Check out wherever you find out and listen to podcasts.
Starting point is 01:08:45 I'll probably pop up on a Harmontown. I'm happy to be at this one. This is really, I'm in the now. Listen to this one. You know what? Start this over. That's what you should do. Relive this one.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Or go back to the first time Brandon came through. Miles, where can people find you? Oh, God. You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. I don't know why I had to be Lego Batman right there. A tweet that I like is from Jamel Hill, who actually just, quote, tweeted this interaction that was with Trump talking about the tax cuts that he said were going to happen. And it just says, well, let me just read you this interaction. And I'll say question and the president. Question, you said lower tax cuts.
Starting point is 01:09:30 You said that you wanted tax cuts by November 1st. Congress isn't even in session. How is that possible? Trump, no, we're going to be passing. No, no, we're putting in a resolution sometime in the next week or week and a half, two weeks. Question, a resolution where? We're going to put in, we're giving a middle income tax reduction a resolution where? We're going to put in, we're giving a middle income tax reduction of about 10%. We're doing it now for middle income people. This is not for business. This is for the middle. We've already given them.
Starting point is 01:09:54 And the question, are you signing an executive order for that? No, no, I'm going through Congress. But Congress isn't in session though. We won't have time to do the vote. We'll do the vote later. Congress is out though. We'll do the vote we'll do the vote later congress is out though we'll do the vote uh after the elections and jamel just puts uh the president is leslie nielsen from airplane
Starting point is 01:10:11 oh yeah what a joke world we live in oh my god gould dinner roy quote uh something at me he said you know that piece of trivia you bring up about Tom Selleck being the first choice for Indiana Jones? And then he captured an image of Magnum P.I. next to Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones. And then superimposed over that are Chip and Dale from Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. And they were dressed like Magnum P.I. and Indiana Jones. I did not know that. And people were like, man, you of all people really should have known that shit.
Starting point is 01:10:49 Chip and Dale Rescue Rangers. And another tweet I've been enjoying is Pixelated Boat tweeted, Trump, we've got Ted Cruz here tonight. Great guy. Great guy. His wife looks like shit, but Ted is great. He's a big, beautiful baby. Aren't you, Ted? Ted Cruz, naked. Great guy. Great guy. His wife looks like shit. But Ted is great. He's a big, beautiful baby. Aren't you, Ted?
Starting point is 01:11:07 Ted Cruz, naked except for a diaper. Yes? Say it, Ted. Ted Cruz. Papa. Oh, no. That photo of him where he's shaking hands with Trump and Ted Cruz's spine is curled over. I just want to caption it.
Starting point is 01:11:25 What bike? Debo with his ass in front of everybody. And then Joe Brack tweeted, Caitlin Durante has the best laugh. All podcast listeners agree, so keep being funny to all the people who are on
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Starting point is 01:12:54 We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. You can also find that stuff in the show notes. Shannotes. Miles, what song are we going to write out? Let's do a no-name track, actually. This will be Diddy Bop featuring Cam Obie and Rari.
Starting point is 01:13:11 This is from Chicago MC No Name. Yes. As Brandon brought up. So, yeah, let's run some no-name tracks. What's so good about No Name? It's just dope. Listen to it. You know, it's different.
Starting point is 01:13:23 It's a direction where I like hip hop to be going in is exactly what it is you know there's not I think people get a little bit myopic
Starting point is 01:13:32 in what you can talk about or rap about and what hip hop can sound like or look like and I like artists that are challenging that because the genre
Starting point is 01:13:41 is very very malleable and I want to see people bend it in ways it can be bent in many ways so yes this is a good one and the production is very, very malleable. And I want to see people bend it in ways. It can be bent in many ways. So, yes, this is a good one. And the production is really great, too. A little guitar sample in there for you.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yes. All right. We are going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready, I'm ready Mama was running up. Ooh, you about to get your ass beat. This sound like niggas complaining when they bitches like Razzy.
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