The Daily Zeitgeist - The Opioid Conspiracy And Driving Get Deadlier 10.19.17

Episode Date: October 19, 2017

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Also our first guest. Am I right, ladies? What's the weirdest thing you've searched in the past couple days? It was something called Hick Hop. It's bigger than Hick Hop. Hick Hop. hick hop it's bigger than hick hop hick it's uh it's basically uh trap music but for uh the people who believe that confederate statues to still be up oh no cool oh no uh check it out uh some people look up is up church and uh the jaguars boys or something like that check them

out it's like people being like, the Confederate flag is dope. Right. It's pretty wild. Then there's like these, I don't know where these black dudes came from that are in the video that are just chilling with the Confederate flag guys. Covering their face up. No, they're in it. Oh, really?

I guess being a hillbilly isn't exclusive to white people, I guess is what. Right. But then there are the artists who are just, you can tell, are just like straight up racist. Yeah. Doing hip hop. I can't tell if like the guys who are the performers like think it's hilarious and are like, you know, those dudes who like do like frat rap and are like, ha ha, get it? It's rap.

No, some of these are like. They're into it, bro. They're into it. I'm riding on 44s. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna lift a truck rolling coal check that out or don't uh what's what's one overrated thing uh currently uh stranger thing season two hasn't even come out yet but things is already just like ah so i think that's overrated although

i like the i like the uh billboard where it has the sheriff walking through a pumpkin patch. Pumpkin patch is underrated. In terms of I don't know. In terms of white things? Charlie Brown did it and it was dope. So you're like, yo, stop fucking jocking Charlie Brown style. No. I'm happy. I'm happy someone brought it back to the

pumpkin patch. So you're just saying it's overrated because the hype around it is just, you're just exhausted from it. Me? Yeah. I think like two of my friends are in two different Stranger Things musicals right now. And it's just like, yo, chill the fuck out. I don't need this. What the fuck does that mean?

Like there's like a bunch of like homage Stranger Things musicals going on in L.A. right now. Go on Facebook, look at your events and put Stranger Things musical. I bet you you'll find like a ton of invites to people doing these stupid ass Stranger Things homage shits. It's like, fuck that. It's not even that good. Where are the wire musicals? Right.

I'm saying the funny, funnier. Dad did it. Yeah, there was a wire musical and it was good. Yeah. And they actually got some of the cast. It was awesome.

No, it was an actual thing. You should look it up. Yeah. They did do the wire musical. Yeah. Didn't it had a, I think it was just a video that You should look it up. Yeah. They did do the Wire musical? Yeah, didn't it? It had a... I think it was just a video that was like...

Well, not the whole thing, but in it, there was a musical, like what would be the Wire musical. It was awesome. That sounds dope. What's underrated? Underrated is Mindhunters on Netflix. I decided to go with overrated and underrated on Netflix. Mindhunters.

Sensing a theme here. You gotta check it out. It's about these dudes who are trying to understand, like it's like in like the seventies or eighties, I think. Yeah. And they're trying to understand why it was the sixties. They're trying to understand why these murders,

these sequence murders, they keep calling them keep happening. It's like before we came up with the term for serial killers. Right. And it's the first dudes who like came up with the idea of profiling serial killers yeah because like before everyone's just like they're just depraved and they're born that way but it's all about is morality something that we're born into or is it something that we're taught and i love conversations like that where do you come down on that i think

it's something that we're taught like i don't believe charles manson was born a killer i think that i mean if you look at his life it's probably like one of the most fucked up ways to grow up as a kid. And I think that that leads to the kind of repercussions that we get. I think society plays a bigger role in the monsters that it creates than it's willing to accept. Nature versus nurture. Yeah. I personally think we're all born killers and then we have to be taught not to do that. How do you feel about homosexuality?

Uh-huh. Yeah. Let us know. What is that? Put him in a sword. Well, all right. Yeah. See, he dodged that one.

He dodged that question. How do I feel about homosexuality? Way to Sarah Huckabee that one. Oh, Sarah, Sarah, Sarah. She's so good at the Dodge. We're just watching her deal with the fallout from Trump's condolences to military families. Condolences in quotes. Scare quotes.

Yeah. All right. So we're going to do five stories again. Five stories we're keeping an eye on. We're going to start off with driving deaths on U.S. roads are up for a second year in a row. Hey, which if you're not following back to back. Right. If you if you don't follow trends in U.S. road deaths, they have been going steadily down for many years as cars have gotten safer and safer and safer. And then for the past two years, they just it's been sort of an upward spike.

And they're trying to figure out why this is happening. Apparently, we are speeding and drinking a little bit more, maybe in reaction to the safeness of the cars. We're like, well, we can get away with this shit. Nothing's going to kill me now. But we're not doing it that much more than usual. We're not drinking and speeding that much more than we did in the past. It's like up 2% and the deaths are up way more than that.

14% year over year, which is crazy. So they think it has to do with big surprise smartphones, which smartphone use in that time period has gone from 75% to 81% of the the u.s population uh and they point to the trend that we have stopped talking on our smartphones uh we we used to talk and that that was a thing that you would get in trouble for right like talking on your phone to your head right but uh that is apparently way safer than any of the shit we're doing now, which is texting, getting on Twitter, checking Facebook, Instagram. Yeah, all that shit is it requires way more attention than, you know, having just talking. Yeah, just like yelling at your phone. So, yeah, it's the we can blame it on the millennials.

I was worried there for a second. But, yeah, it's definitely the millennials uh i was worried there for a second but yeah it's definitely the millennials um and sort of a hidden facet of this trend is that the increase in fatalities has actually been mostly among people outside of the cars so wow uh the cars have gotten yeah exactly you're you're a uh serial pedestrian right i'm one of the only five people that walks in L.A. Right. That isn't homeless. It's a walking city. Yeah, that's true.

But yeah, so basically the cars have gotten so safe that we're basically indestructible. Go test that theory out. But people, because they are paying less attention, we pay attention. When you're concentrating on your phone, you can keep track of one thing out of your peripheral vision. So you can look at traffic that you're in and keep track of the cars that are around you. But your CPU doesn't make room for someone crossing the street or bicyclists or motorcyclists. Okay, allow me to deposit a question. Yeah, please.

If you're texting on your phone and you're not looking up, and then this dude is texting on his phone while he's walking, and then you guys hit each other, who's at fault, really? Both, probably. I don't know. I mean, the dude who's at fault really um both probably i don't know i mean the dude is walking is dead so yeah so he he's not he's not around to go to prison to litigate yeah right um but yeah so i mean that's that that's the thing to watch out for because i text and walk all the time oh yeah yeah no you're terrible you ever. Do you ever trip and fall? You ever trip, though?

Like, do you ever walk into shit? I've run into shit. I ran into a baby once. Yeah. Like a baby that was just on the loose? It was in a carriage. And the parents started yelling at me. And I was like, hey, yo, watch your baby.

Yeah. Before I flipped this fucking carriage, B. You did the I'm walking here speech to the parents. I'm walking in. I'm walking in. Yeah, so pay the fuck attention. Get off your fucking phone. What's next? Up next, Trump is fucking up comforting military families.

All he would need is like a script of like here are acceptable things to say and here is the name of the person you're calling i think 20 americans have been killed in action since he became commander-in-chief in january and he is fucking it up he he hasn't bothered to get that script uh or learn the names of the people he's calling and he's so wild because the dude is black and his name is David Johnson. I feel like Trump could have just taken a guess and he would have gotten it right. Like, is this such a comment? Yeah, with his racist ass, he probably would assume the last name was Johnson. He's like, Lieutenant Johnson?

Oh, thank you, sir. It's such a shot in the dark. Well, yeah, so with that story, so basically we talked last week about how in Niger there was like an ambush that killed some Green Berets. And Trump has not acknowledged it, you know, for what, like 12 days or something. He finally reached out to the family of one of the soldiers who was killed and and told the his his wife, who's pregnant, that, you know, her husband knew what he signed up for. Jesus Christ. And in his in his call to like for, to send his condolences.

So yeah, he's fucking up the most basic shit. And then also there are also people who would listen to the call were saying he didn't even actually know his name. He kept saying your guy, your guy, you know, it must be sad. Your guy like really? Yeah, man. That's, that's insulting. Oh man.

Uh, yeah. Yeah, man. That's insulting. Oh, man. Yeah. Like, I'm somebody who really is bad at remembering people's names and, like, being like, hey, your guy over there is not – that's not smooth. That's not – yeah. You're my dude.

Yeah. My dude. My dude. I'm like, hey, what up, my dude? If Trump had been like, your dude, my guy. Yeah, he could have even said, your husband? Right. Your guy there. Your guy there. Your guy there.

That nigga. You think he would have gotten away with that? I think so. At this point, I mean, probably. Nothing can stick to this dude. If he had said, yo, your husband was the realest nigga alive, like, I think it would have been okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably.

Probably fine. At least better than being like, yeah, he knew what he was getting into. okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably. Probably fine. At least better than being like, yeah, he knew what he was getting into. Right. Yeah. And there was a congresswoman apparently present with the wife there comforting her who heard the call

and was like, ooh, this is not good and came out and said so. And we just watched the press conference with Sarah Huckerby Sanders, Huckerby Sanders, just basically saying that the congresswoman is disgusting for having, you know, turned politicized this right event. Oh, I mean, I don't know. I lowkey kind of I mean, I don't agree with Sarah Huckabee Sanders 100 percent, but I don't know. This congresswoman kind of like she's looking for FaceTime just a little bit. You know what I'm saying?

Especially that hat that she was wearing. I mean, yeah. Frederica Wilson's whole hat. You got to see that hat. She's got the auntie hat at church. It was blinged out, bro. It was a cowboy hat with bling on it. But I mean, she was there comforting the woman.

So it's like, I mean, at least her head was in the right place. True. It's not like she showed up for uh you know like a photo shoot or something or whatever yeah and also that's like her swag she's always wearing that right she's just got dope hats but yeah i mean the other issue with uh fallen soldiers was that trump even dragged out john kelly's son who had was killed in action to say obama never called him when in fact like he had he had hosted like john kelly uh like at a breakfast at the white house for gold star families and you know there's not a lot to know like why exactly trump decided to say something like that there's rumors that sarah huckabee sanders may have had something to do with it um like you know uh suggesting that

that was something worth saying but yo i i know know John Kelly is not fucking happy with having his son being used, like, as a talking point for Trump. Especially when it's something probably so, I mean, man, shit is, it's just fucking insensitive. It's inhumane to do something like that. And who knows what those conversations are like now if, like, John Kelly's like, yo, dude, keep my son's name out your fucking mouth. Yeah. But I don't know. Almost definitely. He said that word for word.

Yeah. I think. Yeah. Like I said earlier, we were saying he's. I know John Kelly, which I don't. Yeah. That's probably what he was saying. Yeah.

Yeah. And Sarah Huckabee Sanders at the press conference was like, well, I think the general is just mad about people politicizing his son's death and like it was like wait you've like kind of worked yourself in such a circle that you didn't realize you're talking about yourself now like you guys are the ones who politicize his death it's exhausting being up there catching elves every fucking day well not every day but she just looks exhausted yeah but yeah so i don't know It just seems like maybe Trump is a person who doesn't know what to say in that situation because he doesn't have any experience with sacrifice, like sacrificing for his country. That idea is like totally foreign to him. His idea of sacrifice is that he gave up his career to be president.

is that he gave up his career to be president. But I feel like he equates everything to a dollar figure, which is probably why he apparently offered the father of a different fallen soldier $25,000, which I guess the guy was saying he was struggling financially. So in theory, not the worst thing in the world, actually kind of a generous thing. But then he never followed through until the guy told the media that Trump had offered him twenty five thousand dollars and never followed through. And then he was like, oh, yeah, no, that checks in the mail. So, yeah, in summation, even a layup and even when he's like doing the right thing, offering someone twenty five thousand dollars who's struggling with money, even then he manages to fuck it up. Yeah. All right, we are going to take a quick break.

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And we're back. So in this segment, I wanted to talk about a 60 Minutes Washington Post investigation. 60 Minutes aired their report on Sunday of the week that this is airing. And it was pretty incredible. There's been some fallout since then. And this is just a story that we're incredibly interested in just because it's an ongoing health crisis in America. Just because it's an ongoing health crisis in America. It's, you know, my wife works in pain management and is like dealing with people who are hooked on opioids every day. So this is like, you know, a battle that she has to deal with on a regular basis. And so the story basically was an interview with a ex-DEA agent who's basically a whistleblower. His name is Joe Ramacizzi.

Wait, any relation to Steve? I was going to say – Disgraced 9-11 guy? No, I don't think so. Didn't he – what did he say? He was like a 9-11? Yeah, he said that he was like almost in a tower or something like that or like almost got on the plane. It was something where he lied and then like quickly got debunked.

Anyway, sorry. Sorry. Sidetracked. That is such a weird story, though. It was weird. Just to get more sidetracked, he was on Curb recently and I was like, how the fuck are you working again? Like, I thought you got fucking blacklisted.

Nah. He did a lot of season of the league after that. I thought you got fucking blacklisted. He did a lot of the league after that. So anyways, this DEA whistleblower was saying that pharmaceutical companies knew that all these requirements that were putting in place to report suspicious orders. Like when a town of a thousand people will get an order for like five million opioid pills. It's just like, yo, dude, that makes no sense at all.

So the DEA started cracking down on these major drug companies. And obviously, in America, that becomes a problem because major drug companies have lots of money and really, really rich people whose wealth and fortune is at stake. So these companies complained to Congress and the Justice Department and basically used their money to pressure them to get the DEA to go easier on them. So there were two reactions to this in the DEA. So the whistleblower and his team are like, well, fuck that. People are actually like dying here, like on a day to day basis. People are dying. like dying here, like on a day-to-day basis, people are dying.

The other reaction is actually a good case study in how impossible it is to solve problems in America because these big corporations basically went after other DEA attorneys and were like, what are they paying you? We'll pay you double. You come work for us. Holy shit. you come work for us and tell us how like tell us basically the weaknesses in the cases that the dea is trying to bring so that like the dea was fucked they like all these dudes were just uh going and joining the other side for aaron brock insane amounts of money yeah so in 2013 congress crippled the dea's ability to enforce the controlled Act, which is how they were kind of enforcing all this shit up to that point. They characterized it as a way to ensure pain medication was accessible for patients who needed it, which was not America's problem at that point. Right. They're like, we need the fiends to have easier access.

Right. But it basically just took away the DEA's ability to freeze huge, suspicious shipments of prescription drugs. And people knew that, like, completely knew that this is what was going to happen. A 2015 Justice Department memo said the bill, quote, could actually result in increased diversion, abuse, and public health and safety consequences, a.k.a. people dying. So the villain of this story is the key sponsor of that bill in Congress is a guy named Tom Marino from Pennsylvania. He's in his fourth term, who until recently, until like a few days ago, was actually trump's nominee for u.s drug czar the position that is supposed to be in charge of fighting the opioid epidemic it goes all the way to the top right that is who sponsored the bill and uh also the his other big cause other than

making it easier for people to get opioids uh in the midst of the opioid epidemic is trying to is voting against any marijuana legalization. uh, legal medical marijuana businesses. Uh, he voted against a measure to allow veterans affairs doctors to recommend medical marijuana to their patients. And like, that's, you know, uh, my wife used to work in a veterans hospital and like they're, they need all the help they can get because, you know, veterans are coming back from war. They need, they have like lots of pain they're dealing with psychologically and physically. Uh, and he also voted against a measure that would have loosened some of the restrictions on CBD oil, which is a non-psychoactive derivative of the cannabis plant that allows that is like seen as incredibly promising for treating severe forms of childhood epilepsy and also pain. Yeah, a lot with pain. Right.

It gets it gets rid of the thing. The one thing that like they could be objecting to, which is like it gets people high. It helps a lot with pain. Right. It gets, it gets rid of the thing, the one thing that like they could be objecting to, which is like, it gets people high. It doesn't get people high. Yeah. It's, it's purely like,

that's sort of the fun part. Well, and the thing is too, there are a lot of pharmaceutical companies who are trying to synthesize their own version of CBD to try and get the jump on the legal marijuana industry too. Right. And you know,

trying to jam people up in court over this shit too. Right. So the reason the pharmaceutical industry is fighting this is because marijuana legalization in Colorado led to a complete reversal of the opioid overdose deaths in that state. After Colorado's legalization of recreational cannabis, opioid related deaths decreased more than 6% in the following two years. So it's been shown to be incredibly effective and like a good way to treat pain that doesn't involve the risk of getting people hooked on drugs that might kill them. But why would that make people mad, Jack?

I don't get it. Right. That's in their fucking profits. And like, yeah, the other thing is like states with medical marijuana laws, they prescribe less pain pills. Right. Because people are like, oh, I have the option to do something where I'm not just, you know, melted off opioids all day. Yeah. They're going to go for that.

And it just shows you who's really like one of the biggest driving forces behind this anti-legalization movement. It's clearly the pharmaceutical companies because we all know the healing power of weed. Right. Because we all know the healing power of weed. Right. Painkiller prescriptions dropped in the 17 states that had medical marijuana laws in place by 2013. Painkiller prescriptions dropped drastically, so they were making less money. The average doctor in a legal pot state prescribed 1,826 fewer doses of painkillers in a given year. fewer doses of painkillers in a given year.

So Tom Marino, who, like I said, up until this 60 Minutes report, was Trump's pick for the drug czar because his main issue is prosecuting marijuana, which, by the way, Jeff Sessions' main issue, he thinks marijuana should be treated like more uh like we're treated as a bigger crime than it ever was i have my theory on that what's your theory he's a very small dude so like i've hung out with a lot of small dudes when they get high they get fucked up and stupid so i think it's because he can't he can He can't hang. So he's taking it out on marijuana. He kept trying it and thought it would make him happier and more laid back, but it just made him really freaked out. Yeah, it just opened up all the demons he had inside.

Like, you're fucking up, Jeff. You're a fucking demon. You look like a Keebler elf. He doesn't like it, so he's taking it out on everybody who's having fun on it. Yeah. health um he doesn't like it so he's taking it out on everybody who's having fun on it yeah and uh so tom marino uh like i said earlier is a representative for pennsylvania where hospitalizations for heroin overdoses have quadrupled since 2010 jesus uh overdoses for prescriptions like oxycontin and vicodin are even higher the total number of overdoses

is nearly four times the number of fatal traffic accidents in Pennsylvania. How the fuck? I mean, how are you even a fucking human, right? Where you're firsthand seeing this in your own state, yet you can just go and be a total shill

for the pharmaceutical companies like this. And it's completely at odds with your duties as a representative of Congress for the people of your state. Because I have a vacation home in New Hampshire, bro. I mean, exactly. So sad.

But like, yo, again, you know, money is a corrupting force. And, you know, they're dealing with the heads of the pharmaceutical companies who they're like, oh, we're friends. She's a good guy. And they have that good guy network. And he's probably not even thinking of like what that what this translate to in his state. He's like, well, these people are hooked on drugs anyway. Right. Yeah. And like to give you an example of how he thinks about drug use and drug addicts, he recommends for nonviolent drug offenders, they should receive criminal charges that will be held until they agree to forced hospitalization, which the hospitals that he is like recommending.

He has called hospital slash prisons. Like as a verbatim, he called it a hospital slash prison. OK. Yeah. So he shouldn't just be withdrawing from the drug czar nomination. He should withdraw from representing Pennsylvania and, you know, be forced to work for free and like a rehab center for the rest of his life. Get some perspective. Yeah.

But I mean, so it's not all bad news. Yeah. But I mean, so it's not all bad news. There is a PBS documentary that was just trying to go after basically opioids like mask the pain, whereas, you know, the pain has a cause. And so like a good pain physician is supposed to go after the cause of the pain, not just like sort of cover it up. And it was only ever supposed to be used for like surgical pain or broken bones or like pain that you know is going to eventually be over and the problem with like the way it's being used currently is that people will like use it for a bad back or something like don't do yoga or like try and lessen your nerve pain like just fucking take these pills and you know right off the rest of the day.

Right. Growing up Adventist, like, I would always get taken to these health seminars and shit like that. And I remember at one of them, this woman said something and put up this image that, like, stayed with me. Which she said, like, American medicine is this. It's mopping the floor while the water's still running. And it's, like, an image of, like, a sink that's overflowing. And it's just, like, doctors, like, wiping the floor. And I was, like, listening to this fucking epidemic is that's exactly what it is, is they're prescribing this problem rather than trying to get to the actual cause of it.

And it's just leading to just a ton more bullshit. Like, I don't know. Because it's making so much money. Right. Exactly. Rather than solving the issue. Yeah. I had an eighth grade history teacher who was like, you know why pot's illegal and alcohol isn't?

It's because you can grow a great batch of weed without the government's help. But you can't like alcohol that you brew in your bathtub is going to taste like shit. So they can't ensure that they're the ones making money off of pot, whereas they can make sure that they're making money off the alcohol. And I think like that, I think about that so often because it really like applies to so many things like the government can't make money or like these, you know, Fortune 500 companies can't make money off of yoga. They can make money off of, you know, these pills being overprescribed. Well, it's interesting. That whole debate, too, is part of inside the legalization argument, especially in California. Some people are weary of legalization because that would suddenly open the door to corporations to begin mass-producing marijuana, mass-growing operations, and just blow out entire warehouses and just get a huge harvest. That's what small-time growers are like.

Yo, this is not good for us. This legalization opens up a slippery door, too, because that allows for what you're talking about, Jack, is where these companies rather are saying, hey, well, we're making this super lab weed that's so fire, and we're going to make it so cheap because we can grow it en masse. So, yeah, it's a complex thing, too. I'll still smoke mom- i still smoke mom and pop weed oh yeah artisanal weed for life yeah yeah that's silver lake weed man yeah weed that i don't smoke anymore but the last time i smoked weed had

gotten like so fucking strong i was just like complete i i want jeff sessions I want Jeff Sessions. You look like an owl. Like, shut the fuck up, head. Yeah, definitely. Whoever the comedian is who is like, we're smoking cancer medicine. Like, that's how strong it is. That was definitely felt true the last time I smoked. All right. So that's all I've got on opioids.

Anything else before we go to another break? I think what's interesting is when you've talked about in the past about how your wife deals with a lot of people who are hooked on opioids and how it's even a very difficult situation for doctors when you have to tell somebody who is addicted to opioids that you are no longer giving them. You're no longer prescribing them that drug, even though it's for their own benefit. Like, I'm sure that that's a very tough thing for someone to deal with. And you get, I'm sure, very aggressive, agitated people. Oh, yeah. They're inheriting a patient population who are already hooked on these drugs and who got hooked on them by doctors prescribing them. So, like, they're not going to be happy. doctors prescribing them so like they're not going to be happy like somebody who is a literal drug addict and this is me talking like this isn't what she says uh she can't like talk about specific

patients obviously because of uh doctor patient confidentiality but like just observing myself they're inheriting a patient population who are like drug addicts they're you know the the people who like rob people on the street right shit and like break into cars to steal the car stereo to boost it at a fucking what is this 1988 car stereo what are you talking about anyway guys walking around with the big boom boxes you know what i'm talking about no but like yeah whatever but like so it's like drug addicts can be scary people and so like standing and standing in between them and being like yo you can't have your drug and yeah like it can be a dangerous especially the pattern that they're used to is go to doctor doctor gives you drugs right and then you're like good nah and then if the patterns change like my god like i can only

imagine the kinds of i mean fuck me i get mad when i don't eat right you know what i mean yeah yeah so yeah no miles is a monster when he doesn't eat i mean it's really scary i think uh my final thought on it is that i feel like every black barber is vindicated right now because for years they've been telling us that the government is behind the drug problem in America. And they're like, hell, yeah, I fucking told you. They're hella mad. What'd I say? Yeah. You know what I've been saying.

I've been saying it for years. And now 60 Minutes does it all of a sudden. Everyone wants to believe 60 Minutes. Then go to your black barbershops. Don't buy into CBS's bullshit. So just now that Marino has withdrawn his name from consideration as U.S. drug czar, that means that we have no head of the DEA. I think there's like an acting administrator, but there's no head of the DEA, no drug czar, no head of health and human services. And that's in the midst of, you know, one of the worst drug epidemics.

I think they say it is the worst drug epidemic in the history of the United States in terms of lives lost. Um, and Trump, you know, uh, he had like Christie was in charge of, uh, what was it? A panel to look into the commission. Yeah. Yeah. And the opioid commission. And he came out and was like, okay, this is a huge emergency. There's a nine 11 every week and a half putting it in terms that a East coast politician can understand.

And, uh, how many, how many people fit in Yankee stadium? Uh, and so trump came out of that meeting and was like all right i am calling this a national emergency we are in a state of emergency but he didn't like officially declare it i don't know if he even realized that like he needed to officially like that it was an official declaration like michael scott in the office when they're like you you have to declare bankruptcy. And he just goes out of his like, I declare bankruptcy. And it's like, man, that's not how you declare bankruptcy.

Right. Right. It's an official declaration that like frees up funding. And he still has yet to do that. I guess the good news is that it is being prosecuted at the local level. They're arresting doctors who are just prescribing the shit out of these pills and actually having people die. 2015, we had our first doctor convicted of murder, which is – That's wild, man.

Yeah. A doctor being convicted of just straight up murder right i need like manslaughter or secondary but at the same time like that is a really localized way of attacking the problem yeah uh we're we're just letting the companies who are you know providing the pills continue to do so and just getting mad at the doctors who are, you know, like we said, dealing with drug addicts who are fucking angry and like, you know, physically threatening and, you know, saying, like, give me the drugs that are my right. Right. You know, so. Just like I was saying earlier, you know, Stranger Things doesn't talk about this, but a show that does is The Wire.

And they talk about, like, how, like, the police keep focusing on focusing on like those low level, low level, mid-level drug dealers. And that's never going to solve the problem. That's kind of what these doctors are. Right. Yeah, exactly. The doctors are your Bodhi's. We can keep putting Bodhi in jail, but God, there must be a new Bodhi. Rest in peace, Bodhi.

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Oh, my God. And then, Edgar, you wanted to talk about Gordon Hayward's. Oh, I'm going to talk about it. Oh, yeah. I don't know. It's kind of like horrific sports injuries. Get ready. Make sure I get that bass ready.

There are all these towns, like from Denver, which you've probably heard of, to down to Frisco, Texas, that are part of the sweepstakes. Amazon has announced that they are going to open their second headquarters, their first headquarters, obviously, in Seattle. They're like, we're looking for the location of our HQ2 and, you know, come at us with your offers. And they've kind of opened up this public bidding process where people are trying to woo them via viral videos. We actually have a clip from the viral video from Frisco, Texas, a city you've probably never heard of, but that thinks that they can get the second headquarters of Amazon there.

Amazon, you're growing your business and we want to grow with you. That's why we think Frisco, Texas is the perfect fit for HQ2. Here in the city of Frisco, we live, work, and play by our motto, progress in motion. We have caught the energy of Frisco. We've got it. It's the flu, the Frisco flu. Best place to raise a family. Best place to raise a family. Best place to raise an athlete. Best place to relocate your business. According to my mom. Frisco is primed to have you.

Ooh. Ooh. Primed like Amazon Prime. Hey, Alexa. What? Where should Amazon locate HQ2? Hmm. In Frisco, Texas.

Oh, shit. Let them know, Frisco. What an idea so uh by the way literally every viral video created by every city ends with that exact same bit where they're like hey alexa it's just like this sort of it reminds me of early 20th century like america's being sucked dry by these monopolies and you know these small small towns like they've like shut down all these mom and pop stores and, you know, basically drank everyone's milkshake from, you know, taking all the resources from these small towns. And is that a there will be blood reference? What are you what's going on? Pulling them from pulling them to like Seattle and Arkansas. So this is what we're left with is a sweepstakes to get the one big monopoly to come to your town and make you matter again.

It's like a Coen Brothers movie. Right. I don't know. It's like a 21st century version of Willy Wonka or some Dickensian tale where people just like hoping against hope that they get like the golden ticket. The irony of it all. That is what Willy Wonka is about. You just hit me hard right now.

I've never thought about that. Yeah. Everybody's super poor. And then there's this like one giant like corporate headquarters that is like a, you know, golden kingdom that you get. The movie version makes Willyy wonka the hero right that's not right right you just fucked up my childhood tear down that myth tear down that myth well yeah but i mean that you know these monopolies are literally like sucking all these towns across

america dry they're like bleeding them dry by you know to putting all their stores all their local commerce out of business so like this is all we have left is hoping one of them will come close by and shine a little light on your sad little town. Painfully ironic. If Whataburger came to my town and made a Whataburger park, I'd play there every day. Well, so the other issue is that... Like more than another park. So the other issue is no such thing as a Whataburger park. But also, so Amazon, like, I don't think these towns are going to get as much out of this as they think they're going to.

In Seattle, Amazon being located there has driven rapid gentrification. In Seattle, Amazon being located there has driven rapid gentrification. So now it's like instead of being like the place that birthed you know, there was this story in The New York Times about a person who worked for one of the big tech companies in like a low wage job. And she had to wake up at 215, take two trains and a bus to get to work by 7 a.m. because she couldn't afford anything nearby, like where those companies are located. But what if she rode the Whataburger bus? Right. The Whataburger Express.

Right, the Whataburger coaster that just takes you to the... Yeah, I mean, yeah. Too much? Too much with the coaster? Yeah, the coaster was too far. Sorry. Yeah, and again, like these jobs are like, I beat also two very like white collar or like, like there are many highly skilled jobs that are needed at these companies too that might not necessarily serve the communities.

Right. It'll make the mayor super rich, so I understand why the mayors are super psyched about this. But it's probably not going to be good for everybody else. Shots fired. Also, Amazon is demanding and probably going to get tax breaks from wherever they end up getting located. So it's not like it's the city's going to get a lot richer. So, yeah, I mean, obviously, it'll be good for property values. So, you know, there are people who will get rich besides the mayor, I guess. But a lot of it just feels like the, you know, when cities are pitching themselves as the location for future Olympics and then, you know, they end up with, you know, people getting displaced and a bunch of soccer stadiums that are just crumbling and uh you know a gondola tour going over the favelas so that rich people can ride over the ghetto and like point to all the poor people it's just uh something that you know people are writing about that is i don't know i find it more depressing than other people seem to other people seem to be like, what a fun story.

Everybody's competing for it. They won. It's like, no, everyone's been destroyed by this massive corporation. And then ironically, they're begging them to be like, okay, well, can you just show us a little favor? Give us something to shred of hope. I was excited for this story until you bummed me out. And I no longer have Frisco fever. Frisco.

Yeah. The Frisco flu. Yeah the frisco flu yeah frisco flu yeah but despite that sad story does has that changed your enthusiasm about talking about gordon hayward's horrific leg break oh absolutely not drop the bass let's end with some fun stuff uh two days ago was my uh holy day which was opening day for uh the nba and i was very excited to watch the Celtics play the Cavs. I don't think that it was an accident that those two teams played each other. I think it was intentional, even though the trade didn't happen yet. I think Adam Silver knew all along, so I was very stoked for this high-stakes game.

Shout-outs to young Nosferatu. And then in about five minutes into the game, Gordon Hayward landed on his foot pretty awkwardly and his ankle twisted in the opposite direction. And they showed it on live television. And he's pretty much out indefinitely, like a hard indefinitely with what they're calling a fractured ankle. Yeah, but his ankle was pointing the other direction. Yeah. But his ankle was pointing the other direction. Yeah.

It was one of the more gruesome injuries, like, in the history of nationally televised sporting events. Yeah, they showed it on the Jumbotron and had to stop the game for 20 minutes because there was so much pandemonium in the stadium. I'm sure people were, like, dry heaving. Yeah. I mean, yeah. No one – watching horrific leg breaks is, like – it's, like, the worst shit to see. Yeah. Because you – like, I i mean because you have to imagine it's hard to look at someone's foot twist all the way backwards and not immediately think

like look at your own foot yeah no no no no who was announcing that game uh i want to say it was kevin harlan they knew immediately oh but the way they were processing it like live was like oh he's gone down oh god yeah he's broken his leg gordon horton like you want you knew he was just trying to scream like oh my fucking god it's so fucked up but he knew like let me have some sense of professionalism the most calm person here yeah uh and all the players like you know like how when someone's injured you try to go down to like reach out to him they did that saw the injury and just all dispersed running away screaming like it was the most insane well what's crazy is like he knew immediately because then jalen brown still went up for the

putback dunk and almost landed on it and then you just see him like jump like hopping on his butt it was just the most insane scene uh but that being said all my friends showed up late so with with each person that showed up i would stop the game and be like, dude, you got to check this show. And I've been doing that for like the last two days is showing people. Why are you obsessed with the horrific? What is it about it that you're like that they showed it on live television? It's insane that they were like, you know, everyone needs to see like the guy had a perfect shot of it. Yeah. And it was like suddenly a war injury happened

in the middle of a sports show. It was just like his leg was not there. I've never, like, I've never seen that before. Yeah. I mean, the Paul George one was equally horrific. But they didn't show it, like, you have to, like, zoom in to see it. Right. God, it's funny. Well, and, you know, that also happens pretty frequently, like,

in professional soccer, too. Like, some fucking nasty ones. You're not going to get me to watch soccer, Miles. I'm sorry. Okay, well, not even for the leg breaks, because I can show you some ones. If you thought that Gordon Hayward one was bad, I can show you ones that you're going to be like, oh, that was the Pixar version of a leg break. I mean, I'm interested.

I got the Darren Aronofsky version of a sports leg break. I'm going to be confused at the end and realize that it's actually a religious movie. Shots to Darren. Yeah. That was a mother reference. Yeah. It's about the creation of a man. Yeah.

I think the other issue is that I genuinely like Paul George and Gordon Hayward. And so, like, yeah, I think I would actually prefer to watch soccer players just break their leg. Because you don't care about them? Yeah. Oh, man, I care about them. Oh, Eduardo De Silva. Oh, my God.

I mean, I'm just interested. Aaron Ramsey. I'm interested to see if Boston is still going to have a good season. I mean, I feel like that was a significant pickup for them. And to lose them like that is like. Yeah. It's a tough break. And anything fun to go out on guys oh i have something fun uh there's this trend on the internet right now

from new yorkers it's like these like i guess vine's dead so like they're like these twitter videos that i think are phenomenal where someone will go to a restaurant and try a piece of food and really enjoy it to the point that they start yelling and destroying things in the restaurant. And it's very funny. I saw that. The dude just like. This pizza's so fucking good. So, yeah, he took a bite of pizza, lifted his friend up, body slammed him on the table, which I thought was funny.

But then he, like, went behind the counter at the pizza place as the pizza place was like, yo, man, stop. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he started, like, tearing shit down. I was like, yo. Don't take it there. Yeah, don't take it there. It's so funny. As long as you're just hurting yourself and your friend, that's cool. But, I mean, that is a place of business.

But, yeah, Edgar and his mean millennial sense of humor, you know. I'll tell you what kids these days. Uh, all right. Uh, Edgar, thank you so much for coming on for the second time. Two times.

It's my pleasure. I want those Alec Baldwin numbers. Yeah. Uh, Edgar, where can people find you? Find me on Instagram at awful Graham. You can find me on Twitter at Edgar.

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You know, even despite at Balder the Brave calling me out, telling people where you can find me, you will find me Googling some horrific leg breaks that show Edgar right now so we can end this shit. You will watch some soccer. And you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow the Daily Zeitgeist at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook page, The Daily Zeitgeist. Come be our fan, be our friend. Be our family.

Yeah. That's a little too far. That's kind of culty. Oh, and we will have footnotes up in the next week or so. Anna's also promising that the page will be nothing but those videos of those guys in New York. Tried food and hurting themselves. And soccer leg breaks. All right.

Talk to you guys tomorrow. Because it is a daily show. Is that my catchphrase now? I think so. It's not great. It's not great. We're working on it. Bye.

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