The Daily Zeitgeist - The Oppressed Chad, Obama = Basketball? 05.30.25

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

In episode 1872, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Rebrand, Mort Burke, to discuss… Woe Is Me: The Story of A Man Named Chad, Elon Musk Officially Poochies Himself Out Of The White House, The U.S. Has Been Brainwashing Kids With Presidential Cartoons For Decades and more! Woe Is Me: The Story of A Man Named Chad Elon Musk Officially Poochies Himself Out Of The White House Elon Musk leaves Trump administration after leading effort to slash U.S. government Musk Takes Stephen Miller’s Wife—as Trump Aide Rage Tweets Baby Trump and Musk feature in Russian propaganda cartoon for toddlers Trump’s Pick for Ambassador to Israel Sells a Children’s Book Praising Him Kash Patel’s Maga kids’ book is embarrassing. I should know – I’m a children’s author Obama to Star in Spider-Man Comic Lining Up for Obama and Spider-Man Super President Wiki SUPER PRESIDENT Can We Just Get Down To The Conversation About Whiteness? Mort's Piece of Media: MaKenna Magasis - 2021 LISTEN: Funny by BronchoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I Did this thing where escape room no, let me just keep When I say you're gonna fucking quit the show go ahead Saw Benson Boone and sang along to him with Looking your eyes Like I was recently had to pee so bad I started running to the bathroom and pulling my pants down Before I got to the toilet and I'm just being I'm being just kids style with my butt out Yeah movie diarrhea style pants down just peeing into the toilet. I don't know. There's something so liberating about being like that. I was like, yeah, you know what? Pants around my ankles, butt out, pants down,

ass out. That's the way I like to take a piss. Yeah. Wait, so was this I missed the first. Was this in public or were you in your? No, no, no, no, no. Is that at a children's daycare? I see a mommy. I'm in trouble. I'm trying to make if I've done, but out and never done. But OK, that does sound. Yeah, it sounds freeing. I'll try it today.

I'm glad you asked public because I saw a guy do, but like an older man, like in his 60 fully, fully butt out peeing in a sports event. And I was like, oh, OK, I mean, whatever. Get it how you live. But these old people are how you live. Sir, I would ask you, you get it how you live. Hey, man, get it how you live, bro. I was at the doctors the other day and this old man, we were all just kind of waiting in the lobby. He went outside and I could see him through the window and fully took his shirt off.

Wow. To do what? Hang out, fight someone, just fucking be old in the sun. Oh, wow. I mean, you know, like some skin to skin. You know why he's probably friend the sun. He's trying to he's trying to expand his vitamin D net. Yeah. You cover up now. All that skin can absorb that vitamin D, but then you take that shit off.

Now your chest is like a solar panel, baby. Yeah, man. It's like that. It's like the butt out pissing thing, too. It's like it probably felt great. Honestly, we were all we were all bummed. I mean, I can at least reason a scientific there's like a scientific explanation for like why you might be able to absorb more vitamin D from the sun by not wearing a shirt versus just having your butt out. Just have your full yeeks out while you take a pee. But either way, it's yeah, I mean,

I I'm into a little sort of a tighter pant these days. Back when I was in my pants, I was in my larger jeans, I would be it wouldn't be a big deal. But now that I have like tight and they're not we're not talking insanely tight. But yeah, just as I can tell what's in your pocket. What are you saying? You can't you know what I'm saying? There's there's there's so tight you can't have your butt out when you pee. I'm just saying that like if I had an especially parrot type pair of pants on, I'm trying to think of a reason why I would do a butt out and I would feel I did it. Because I look like a banana.

Yeah, I had to take it off a bra or something. I had to do it off a bra or something. I had to do it to like prevent myself from peeing. Like I was like if I if I'm I was signaling to my body the toilet is almost here. Hold it a little bit more miles. You can't let your body know the toilets almost. I had to because at first I was breaking. I was like where's the toilet? I'm like don't baby, the butt is out. We're almost peeing. This is an iHeart Podcast. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here.

Diddy's former protege, television personality, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real. I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ presents Aubrey O'Day covering the Diddy Trial on the iHeart Radio

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Hello, the internet and welcome to season 390 episode four of The Daily Sidekiss. This is a production by iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and it is Friday, May 30th, 2025. Yeah. Yep. Oh man. It Oh man, shout out to us. It's National Creativity Day. Hey. Hey, shout out all the wonderful southern people out there. The National Mint Julep Day is yours today, May 30th.

Southern Alcoholics. What is that? Just like sugar, lime juice and whiskey? It's just bourbon. You think it's going to taste sweet and minty, and it's just gasoline. It has been my experience. I thought it was going to- It's minty, sugar, whiskey drink, right?

Yeah, yeah. That's it. And a little bit of lime. Maybe I was just drinking some strong mint juleps in my time at the Stunner Berby, but it just tasted like bourbon with like a slight dash of mint and wheat. Yeah, with a dash of scope mouthwash. That's how they made that. Tell them already doing.

It's National Water a Flower Day. If your name's Delilah, it's your day cuz it's national hole in my bucket day and Is it dear Lila or Delilah? I think it's dear Liza. Oh fuck man That was a matter learned the second time around that wasn't even though. Yeah, though. I didn't know it as a kid It was like a thing. I heard old people say like y'all do this one anymore. I'm like no no It's also Loomis Day. I'm like, who the fuck is Loomis? But it's recognizing the person who received the patent

for wireless telegraphy. Oh, hell yeah. I've been waiting for this one to come around. Yes, yeah. I know, man. I know. I know. All right, well, my name is Jack O'Brien,

AKA the host of Piss American Life, Pyra Ass. Oh yeah. He said Pyra Ass. Pyra Ass. Which, Yo, who did that? That courtesy of the piss poet himself.

Oh, locker-oney? Locker-oney on the Discord. Pyra Ass. Pyra Ass. Pyra Ass. Pyra Ass. Pyra Ass. Wow. Got our ass with that one. Oh Wow Got a guy ra ass would be a good porn performer name. Yeah, I ra ass Yeah, for sure, you know, mm-hmm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host

Mr. Miles gray Gray, okay Check out my Sarlacc pit As jewelry dangles from it Okay, shout out Mort Decray Decray Mort Decryree on

Discord. Wait, another Mort? What? Is that Mort on Discord, dude? Died of Decre- Anyway, shout out for that one Shout out to that one, shout out to everybody who's referenced a Sarlacc ass jewelry over the last few days. Bunch of Sarlacc ass jewelry. Yeah. My wife says when I buy her stuff.

Kind of ass jewelry is this. This Sarlacc ass. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests. It's a very funny comedian, actor, writer, improviser who's special, spiritually filthy. I added at the end, it's not called spiritually filthy. It's implied. Hilarious special, hilarious person, you can go check it out right now.

Also, our special skateboarding correspondent on the street. It's Mort! Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I think this was a reference to the French word death. I see. All a lot of that. So are you. You are a walking, talking reference to the French word death. That's right. Hey, what's up? Yeah, French death over here. Shut up, French dish. How would you been up to, French death? Just making people face their mortality when they don't want to.

Oh, mortality. That's pretty cool. Mortality. Goddamn, so many good ones. Mortal Kombat. That's, yeah. The AKAs. When a mortality is Mort's character, just like runs into you with a skateboard and your shins,

and you're like, and it's mortality. But then your spine falls out. Yeah, exactly, exactly, right. You watch a commercial that reminds you of your kids and you start crying a little bit. Mortality. The human condition. Existential despair with me, Mort.

Yeah, there's only one Mort allowed and canonically, we can only allow one Mort in the Daily Zeitgeist. So unfortunately, that Discord person is now going to subsume your identity, Dicky Greenleaf, talented Mr. Ripley style. Well, excellent character name, Paul. Thank you. Yeah, wow. Think about that show or that movie all the time. Do you?

What do you mean? Because you just think about that happening to you, you want a talented Mr. Ripley someone? Don't worry about it, Miles. Okay. Just- You've been working on your want a talented Mr. Bigly someone? Don't worry about it, Miles. Okay. Just- You've been working on your tan a lot recently. And wearing hats.

Look at my fantastic collection of hats. Yeah, a lot of new Js in your background. Yeah. Anyone up for a cheeky blunt or two? Just one question. Jack. You blunt. Immediately get paranoid. I can't even talk.

I like also in that story, Miles says the word cheeky all the time. You're just talking about the merits of cheeky versus naughty. Yeah. I hate it personally. I'm the opposite of whatever an Anglophile is. I love some couple of British people, but instinctively, I'm the opposite of whatever an anglophile is. But I love some, a couple of British people, but instinctively I'm just like, Hmm. Yeah.

What is hatred? It's not a phobia. Deep in my Irish bones. Yeah. It must be deep in my Irish bones. Irish and English and I can feel the war inside of you. Yeah, truly. DNA at war with itself. Yeah, the colonial and the

like pre-colonial Celtic paganism. They're just like always fighting each other. It's difficult. All right. Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. And up first, we've got a tale as old as time. Yep. Discrimination. Ever heard of it? Yeah. White guys with kinda different names? Ever heard of that?

Not even. Ever heard of oppression? Actually, Miles, we have a white guy with a kinda different name here today. I know. This is actually perfect. This would be a good moment for someone to weigh in. Let me actually get into the story I got a ton to say about this guy. Yeah, this guy rules.

The story of a man named Chad. Just read the title of this fucking op-ed from Business Insider. My name is Chad. Yes, I'm white, work in office job, and sometimes I wear a vest. This is not a joke. That's the fucking title.

Yeah, that's right. That's how he's going into every interaction with anyone. Yeah, that's right. I'm white, guys. Sorry. Drink it in. What? Don't cancel me. Take a picture.

Oh, I work in an office. Are you happy? What? No, I don't care at all. Want to put me in a zoo on Coney Island for people to gawk at? Want to put me in a zoo? It's so funny. Eddie, the best thing is,

why does he, why does he respond to younger than me? There's a lot of texture in this piece that we'll get to. There's even weird, I don't know what happened to his best friend. They're like, somebody has to intersect with his best friend. You mean Cam? Yeah. Yeah.

We're also, Elon Musk has officially poochied himself out of the White House. Reference to a Simpsons character that probably most people are too young to know about. But anyways, he's removed himself ungracefully. Just be like, yeah, and yada, yada, I don't really work there anymore, but it was great and we did everything we wanted to.

Yeah, Stephen Miller, I'm taking your wife. Yoink. Wait, is that for real? Yeah. Stephen Miller's wife is leaving the White House to go work for Elon Musk right now. Oh no. Trouble in the Reichstag? Oh wow.

Trouble in the grossest paradise? Yeah. The grossest paradise possible. We'll talk about cartoons aimed at children that are trying to get them involved in geopolitical, get them interested in geopolitics, a little Russian propaganda for the kids. And if that sounds weird to you, you didn't grow up in America because we love that shit. All of that, plenty more.

But first more, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? You know, well, the last thing I searched was the signup list for this open mic that I'm hosting in about an hour and a half, because in L.A. we do daytime open mics, which sounds like hell on earth. And most of the time it is. But then every once in a while, like this one today is going to be a good one. Wait, a good sign up list. You're happy. What's the you're talking about today, Friday? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And what was the audience like? Oh, the audience miles is just going to be other comedian. Yeah. We're just waiting to go. OK, so truly open route to open mic. They're just waiting to go up and they're the audience. OK. Yeah. And I don't know. The cool thing is, is like, yeah, there's a bunch of really fun people. There's a very interesting scene where, there's a bunch of really fun people. There's like, LA is a very interesting scene

where like there's a lot of great, really young, like hardworking, funny, smart comics. And then there's a bunch of people who are, you know, doing impressions of the worst person at the mothership in Austin, Texas, which is the Jim Rogan. You know what I mean? That's, oh God.

I've been hearing that. I don't, I don't frequently go after like podcasts that are standup comedians talking about stand-up comedy, but I have seen a few clips where stand-ups are like, yeah, it's really bad out here. Now everybody is just making racist jokes and that's who you follow up on stage. Yes. Racist people.

Yeah. I had a friend that. Yeah. And and, you know, I don't know. I had a friend that moved there and he's like, he said he goes, people are saying things on stage I wouldn't say in a private text and crushing. That's what he said. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Well, yeah, it sounds awful. We're backsliding, baby. Yep.

And especially for like the comics, the comics that were already there before all that should happen there. Yeah. Extra especially for like the comics, the comics that were already there before all that should happen there. Yeah. Extra. I was, I mean, it's like everything is just democratized in this weird way where people are like, oh, I can do that. Like any, we were truly in the era where everyone feels they can do anything,

including being like a, like an astronaut or like nautical engineer or something. Yeah. Yeah. Top ed writer. Right. The department of health and human services. I was having lunch with someone and I was talking about like my job and like comedy and stuff and then when I was going to the parking lot, this guy chased

after me, he's like, Hey, hey, hey, man, you said you work in comedy? And I was like, Oh, I really want, I literally went, oh, I'm like as I was saying that I was like, what do I say to not be a dick to avoid this conversation? But they came up pretty polite and sort of like wide-eyed and bushy-tailed kind of vibe. I mean, yeah, I work with comedians. Like, oh man, if there's any advice you can get me, how do I get like, I'm trying to do scene work and like crowd work.

I'm sorry. I said I'm trying to crowd work. Like I want to do crowd work. Oh, it sounds like we got an open mic for him. Yeah, I was like social media. I was like, what do you mean? He's like, how do I get into that? And I was like, you know, like the stuff you see on Instagram and I was like, oh, you need to go to some open mics and figure out what you want to do is stuff you see on Instagram. Yeah. And I was like, when he said it like that, I was like, this makes so much sense. It's like, it's really not like we grew up being like, look at these stand up comedians, like these specials, these one hours or whatever. And you're like, that's fucking that's what it takes to go up there. And now a lot of people just see these short form clips and like, yeah, I can make fun of some guy's name for 50 seconds. Yeah, totally.

Like, that's comedy. No, it's been reduced to this thing of there is a fair cross section of people who are like, I'm a total dick. I probably could do that. Yeah. So when I see people who come into mics and they're like shy or nervous or a woman or someone who,

you know what I mean? I'm like, you come here, like you're gonna do, please stay with us. We need you here. We need your voice of like, you know what I mean? Usually- Got some guy cracking his knuckles and then like, yeah. I was both the funniest person at my frat house, according to me, and I've got a major personality

disorder that makes it so I basically feel no social anxiety whatsoever. Just none. Zero. I have no shame receptors, is what my neurologist said. I have no shame receptors, is what my neurologist says. Yeah, I have no shame receptors, so I'm gonna be pretty successful in this business. Or a billionaire, whatever.

Yeah, one way or another, you're gonna know my name, unfortunately. Mort, what's something you think's underrated? Underrated right now, well you might not say he's underrated, but he is the head of the Department of Health and Human Services. I think RFK. Underrated.

Oh wait, oh shit, no, I did the wrong one. You have to stick with it and justify that you think RFK is underrated. That your maha flag fly. Here's what I love about him. I like that he sounds like a ghost who's trying to stage whisper. There's something about natural ASMR that makes me feel calm and cared for. Well, what I do think is funny is so many Republicans are just getting around to the idea that they really want regulation, which historically was like a liberal thing, But all of a sudden they're like, man, these wild, these industries don't control themselves.

What could we possibly do about this? You know, yeah, he's one of the great thinkers of our time. What do you think he's all right? Fine. Let's do the thought experiment. Why would you say he's overrated? Uh, now that's going to be a tough one. And are you up to it? Yeah.

If you want back out, if you want, you know what I mean? I'm impressed. I think he's over. Well, I was saying he's overrated because he was elevated into such an incredible position so that there in by itself is an overrated he's like over employed for his abilities. Yeah. Oh, interesting.

I completely disagree. He's underemployed because he should be president because the last name Kennedy. So Yeah, yeah, I broke Kennedy and it doesn't matter the politics I like them all equally Yeah, I mean that was kind of his thing too. He's like I'm a Kennedy and it doesn't matter the politics I should be president and I will change my politics. You want me to change my politics? Hell, yeah. Easy. Done. Or what's something you think is underrated? Well, yeah. So this underrated and this involves a little bit of a story, which is I went to the doctor the other day and she used the phrase

booty hole three times with me. And so I think that doctors should use more like calm, very common language. Cause I, I felt like I felt secure. It made me laugh. I was like, you're just like, wait, how did it? Okay. You're an improviser. How did this play out exactly?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm 45. So, uh, how do I say this? Uh, and that be crass. Uh, I get it. It's time for my asshole is terrible. Is that oh, you got a bad asshole. Terrible asshole.

Well, you need to like. Yeah, because why don't have a day? Right. Yeah. One. So I need to get on that. So and then also just the age thing. I'm 45. So she's like, we're going to have to start talking. And she said, we have to start talking about that booty hole. Yeah. And I go, hey, you're a doctor.

Please use the clinical term, which is dry ass bussy. Well, you got a dry one. Congratulations. I mean, I mean, I mean, that's is there a soaking wet jack? What you're constantly I I was just having this thought recently. I was listening to Jeremy Corbyn, left-leaning leader in UK be interviewed. And it was on that podcast, the Blind Boy podcast I talk about sometimes on here.

Yeah. They're kneecaps in a bit of trouble right now, aren't they? They're like, they're flying terrorist flags. They're like, you guys are really stretching with them. Anyway. Yeah, man. So he was interviewing Jeremy Corbyn and he was talking to him about neoliberalism. And Jeremy Corbyn was like, I don't like to use the phrase neoliberalism because

people don't know what that means. It makes them turn their brain off. I prefer the politics of sharp elbows. And I was like, well, I don't know what the fuck that means. And also, why not just like, there's a thing just generally across the board where like people are just like, let's like, workshop a phrase. It's like, it's like a very like big D Democrat thing where it's just like, yeah, how do we like do a turn a phrase to make it sound like memeable and fun?

And it's never gonna work. Just like call it the fucking thing. Yeah, don't don't call it a booty hole Just like we can't just trust that we can be intelligence enough intelligent enough to be like the You know anus or whatever whatever doctors call it. Yeah, except for booty hole I do think we should always booty hole is genuinely funny and I kind of respect it it's like three times so far so far in that direction that is a good bsm but good bedside manner on that yeah please call my asshole the great pit of carcun okay otherwise where the sarlacc resides. The hellscape nun shall speak of. That's right. Call it Jabba's butt.

Call me Jabba the butt when I come in. I also would posit Tushy Dimple if we want to go cute. Tushy Dimple? I have one of those. My butt has a dimple. It's very cute. Love. Hubblebrag. When it smiles, it has body has a dimple. It's very cute. Oh Hubble brag when it smiles it has like a little dimple Katherine Hahn wink Would you experience joy jack it goes yeah, you don't even your mouth doesn't smile but your buckles That's how I know you're having a good time

Sorry, did the Pillsbury are you sitting on the pill? Very doughboy and does he love it? No further questions, your honor. My own thought experiment. Let's what do you think the Pillsbury doughboy sounds like when he's. When he's fucking when he's fucking. Oh, is this something you know, work out at the open mic later? I'm preparing for my. Well, we're going to we're going to do an improv set afterwards.

And I'm going to do that. I'm going to go one by one. you guys make your noise when I got a first And this is in no way just for me to like jack off to later go you go Like I think he's still had brings that same energy to it like I don't think there's like a thing We're like a flip-switch switch flip brings that same energy to it. I don't think there's a thing where a switch flips. He's like, oh yeah, how you like that? No, no, no, no. I like to live in a world where he remains just like,

wee-hee. Yay. But still very sexually active. Yeah, very much so. Yippee, you're buzzing it open. Wee-hee. Yeah. Playboy Cardi, I like to imagine that like that energy is just always that.

It's me, it's me, me, me, me. You know, Playboy Cardi's never like going deep on anyone. He's just like. Yeah, I mean, selectively then he will sometimes be like, you're like, oh, don't do that. Don't do that. Be Cardi, be Cardi. Yeah, yeah.

All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Danity King alum Aubrey O'Day, joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation.

Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York, and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify in the Ditty Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise

based on her firsthand knowledge from her days on making the band Are you here to testify in the Diddy Trial? Aubrey will offer her opinions and expertise based on her firsthand knowledge. From her days on Making the Band as she emerged as the breakout star, the truth of the situation would be opposite of the glitz and glamor. It wasn't all bad, but I don't know that any of the good was real.

I went through things there. Listen to Amy and TJ Presents, Aubrey O'Day'Day covering the Diddy trial on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever thought about going voiceover? I'm Hope Woodard, a comedian, creator, and seeker of male validation. To most people, I'm the girl behind VoiceOver, the movement that exploded in 2024. VoiceOver is about understanding yourself outside of sex and relationships. It's more than personal. It's political, it's societal,

and at times it's far from what I originally intended it to be. These days I'm interested in expanding what it means to be voiceover, to make it customizable for anyone who feels the need to explore their relationship to relationships. I'm talking to a lot of people who will help us think about how we love each other. It's a very, very normal experience

to have times where a relationship is prioritizing other parts of that relationship that are being naked together. How we love our family. I've spent a lifetime trying to get my mother to love me, but the price is too high. And how we love ourselves. Singleness is not a waiting room. You are actually at the party right now. Let me hear it.

Listen to VoiceOver on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A lot of times the big economic forces we hear about on the news show up in our lives in small ways. Three or four days a week, I would buy two cups of banana pudding, but the price has gone up. So now I only buy one. The demand curve in action, and that's just one of the things

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consumer spending expert Amanda Mull, we'll take you inside the boardrooms, the backrooms, even the signal chats that make our economy tick. Hey, I want to learn about VeChain. I want to buy some blockchain or whatever it is that they're doing. So listen to everybody's business on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States.

Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the man who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm JR Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself. And I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of

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and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy, Alberto. Up next, we have an op-ed by someone who had their name made fun of at an open mic. Never recovered. Fucking never recovered. My God. I mean, like, we're obviously, like, regressing culturally in every way. Like, you guys were talking about the MAGA TV re that's upon us, like corruption fully normalized. Now we're just getting op-eds from white men about how hard life is. You were talking about people seeing something and being like,

I can do that. This guy saw James Baldwin's writing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. I can do that. I am the same. This is a lot like when he went to Paris. Yeah, this is on Business Insider. It's a really weird, like they have everything from like these M&Ms are climbing up the charts to like political news to then other ones. Like so many anecdotal stories like how I left my job in marketing to be a digital nomad and why I don't regret the decision.

Up until that last one, it sounds like this show. Eminem's mixed with political stuff. Political things and yeah, I'm a digital nomad. But we will, I mean, we are going to continue the tradition by talking about this one, like I said, up top, it's called My Name is Chad. Yes, I'm white, work in office jobs. And sometimes I wear a vest. And you happy is the next slide.

When I saw this like head and I was like, Okay, where is this going? I was like, maybe this is going to be some kind of reflection on whiteness and how oppression works or something. Nope. The piece starts off with the author, let's call him Chad, because that is his name. Talking about how loaded the name Chad is, like in interactions, he says he references like, he couldn't escape it. In like the 80s and 90s, there was like the surfer is, like in interactions. He says, he references like, it couldn't escape it. In like the eighties and nineties, there was like the surfer Chad, then the 2000 election, they were hanging

and pregnant Chad. Oh my God. And now there's like the internet. Now there's like the internet, like if you're doom scrolling, people talk about Chad's all the time, and like giga Chad's. So Chad, like the nineties Chad thing, by the way, was the most, like, benign,

toothless fucking joke. Like, it was, like, made specifically, like, giant for Jay Leno's, like, super-workshopped fucking, like, focus-grouped comedy bits. Like, it had nothing. It was in no way, like like other than being sort of annoying that people would be like, ah, Chad, hang Chad. Like for him to act like that was a hardship tells us everything we need to know heading

into this article. I just want to show like this guy's face is so funny. Cause like he's a whole, I want to see him. He's holding. Oh my God. He's holding a bottle of beer. It says Chad, dude. So he goes, hey, so he talks about how the name is like everywhere. And he says, quote, still, I worry about it because my name, my name is Chad.

And sometimes I look like what people think that means, even if I'm not. And he talks about his like, I used to even put empty beer bottles on a bookshelf when I was in college. And then he goes on. He's like, that guarantees a date being named Chad guarantees a daily dose of perspective, and I'm determined to use it well. It's a reminder not to take myself too seriously. I like that part. He goes on about when it starts getting a little bit dodgy being named chat.

The only time I truly worry about my name is in professional settings. It's hard not to picture a hiring manager, a potential client or editor seeing my name and shaking their head. So I hedge from time to time using my initials, CW in place of Chad. CW, another thing that is violently white. Like also has a weird cultural connotation. Just think of me as the CW, babe. I go by Michigan J. Frog.

To make sure there's no negative connotation associated. My resume starts with, hello, my baby, hello, my honey. Exactly. Then it goes, I don't want something so trivial to be the difference between success and failure. I feel I owe it to myself to let the work speak for me, not the name. And which when I read that,

I became the Willy Wonka meme of please tell me more tell me about your dark world in which you have to survive. It's like he thinks he's inventing the idea of discrimination. Yes. Totally. He's the Columbus of white oppression. It just popped into his head and he was like,

somebody needs to write about this. Yeah, yeah, and the idea of emotions too. Like, I also think this is a man, a white man grappling with the reality of he may have had an emotion at some point. Oh, what was that? What the fuck was that? Oh, thank God.

My empty Heineken bottles are still on the shelf. You're still Chad. You're still Chad. I was like, man, I really honestly, so he'll go on. I still just can't like the idea. I'm like, Chad, what is it like to be completely judged based on rigid cultural archetypes? It makes you worry about how people will perceive you, right? I mean, like that by having the name Chad, they will flatten you into some kind of

meme that robs you of your individuality. I mean, I just haven't thought of the nuances before this. Chad, go on. He wraps the piece up about how he misses his best friend. This is where it gets so weird. I know some things about the name Chad that others don't. Like when I hear it spoken by my wife, who doesn't say it often, I can't help but feel small flutter in my chest.

Or when I think of my childhood best friend. Sorry, that's not the thing about the name Chad, but all right. All right. Sorry. Go ahead. Right. Right. It's like, it's not that it's your name.

It's that your partner's talking to you. It's like, it's that your wife said your name and you got a little bit horny. But again, he thinks that this is he thinks he's the only person who has felt things like that's just the power of the name. If your name's Jack, you ain't feeling that shit. Oh, man. Sorry. It's also really that that sentence has a could have a mountain of subtext, subtext of like, why does it hey, like, why doesn't she ever say your name? What's going on? I hope they just walk around in silence.

Yeah. Oh. She's normally, like most wives, wives just grunts in my direction and seems generally disappointed whenever she looks at me. Oh, you're still here. I thought you said you're gonna go right at the Starbucks today.

All right. Just don't bother me. I have calls starting at 11. So then again, it's like, it's unique to Chad. Then he goes on, or when I think of my childhood best friend, whom I haven't spoken to in years, I remember the way our names were always said in a pair, Cam and Chad. And I smile because there are lots of stories caught in between the utterance of those names together. For better or worse, Chad is my name. And I still long to hear it said again in the voice of people who are no longer here and whom I miss dearly.

And it goes on. I remember it's like and that's sort of like the last sort of paragraph. Which, by the way, the fact that he hasn't talked to his childhood best friend is the closest he can get to a tragedy. Exactly. He is a fucking tragedy seeking missile. He is just doing anything he can to find anything to be like, I have faced hardship too. There's that SNL sketch drunk boyfriend where the drunk boyfriend starts crying about his death. He goes, my uncle. He's crying randomly at three in the morning. At three in the morning, crying about an uncle who you've never heard of before, who died seven years earlier. I used to think that that was the greatest encapsulation

of a certain type of white person until I read Chad's article. Yeah. It's awesome. I will defend Chad briefly and say that yes He's co-opting oppression, which is a nightmare, but and it's basically like this is all this is all solved immediately in half a therapy session This is not a news article go say that you had two feelings and discuss what it means with the therapist My wife hates me and I miss Pam Okay, let's work. Let's talk about right and then but then I will say heat

Okay Yeah, that's it. Okay, let's talk about it. Right, but then I will say he, okay, so he adopts the, what happens usually with these dudes is they adopt rebellion, which they don't need at all. They are the oppression, right? But he does turn it using therapy ideas. So at least he's not becoming like violently outraged about it, although as somebody named Mort, I'm like, yeah, try people thinking

that your name means that you're a fucking hot air balloon captain. You know what I mean? Or like, yeah, I feel like Mort is opening yourself up to more bits where people are going to fuck with you. Then like Chad, you're like, yeah, whatever, Chad. Yeah. I got a job interview and like, all right, this guy's a borscht belt comedian from the 1800s, I guess.

Fuck it. You know, they're like, oh, I wasn't expecting you. Yeah. I used to be called like Jack Off or Jack Me Off or help your uncle Jack Off. I haven't thought about that fact until reading this article. Like the idea that this person is just stuck

in those initial hanging Chad jokes and like so wounded by them is just. Well, and Chad is a name like you can't get Chad. All that stuff. It's a name for a guy. Yeah. Yeah. And it's shorthanded like, dude, that is a fucking Chad. Yeah. It's like that dude's like, yeah. Again, this is him having to create his own impression because it's that's

that's just what he's been trained to do. You hear my name and you're like, that guy, you hear my name and you're like, that guy probably has a really weird boner. You know, it's a very- Weird boner where there's originals on tap. Oh yeah, Mort, ugh, dude, Mort's coming. And by the way, I love my name and I love who I am

and I think I'm doing wonderful things with it. I'm trying to be less self-deprecating. When you hear your wife say it, but also, god damn it, if you didn't miss Cam. That's the thing, I'm glad that he's admitting that his heart flutters. I think that's actually, I think that's actually nice actually. It's funny, like, I could have been fine with this whole thing if just at one moment, even if for one moment, it could have been more palatable if he just exercised just a fragment of awareness.

Yes. And could see, he's like, this pales in comparison to being judged based on your name alone. Ask anyone with a non-American white sounding name, ask a gender fluid person what that's like stepping in a room, people are like, oh, I don't know, that's your name, even if you could acknowledge

that and how this how trivial this is, then it would maybe you could kind of bring this around to something funny. But it's just like, my name is Chad. Maybe in the 90s, and the 2000s. Okay, dude, I don't know, man. Why did you publish this business insider? It's interesting that, like in the HTML, like the URL, sorry, the URL of this piece, it's not like, you know, usually sometimes they'll spell the whole article name out.

It just said it's business insider.com slash. My name is widely despised. I love it anyway. Yeah. And it's just Chad. It's just Chad. Like this is the premise of an article written by somebody named Jeffrey Epstein. Like that, you know, like that should be what it is.

But instead it's just somebody who is just fucking digging, just reaching so hard, just dirt under their fingernails. My name is Dry Ass Bussy. And I'm learning to live with it. Middle name ass, first name dry, all capitalized, Bussy. Yeah. I could have taken this in a way that's like, and in many ways, the discrimination I faced around the name

Chad is probably more good than bad and has helped me in ways that I haven't even noticed or realized. And the name Chad probably, you know, born on second and not realizing it, thinking I hit a double. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But instead it's just, you know, he's exercising his poetry bone. Exactly.

Well, I'm the follow-up piece that's coming out Monday from Business Insider is called, I am Karen, hear me roar. parenthetical starts recording on her phone and crying hysterically. Um, is the name of that. Even that one. I'd be like, yeah, I'll hear you out, Karen. Yeah. Karen, like you don't want to be called Karen. You just don't.

We're just, that's, that's what the culture has done to that name. Now, Chad, whatever, bro. I'd love an essay from Karen Kilgareff about like what the past five years have been like. Right. Right. Sure. Someone with the actual fucking hilarious person could speak about it.

And yeah, anyways, let's talk about Elon Musk real quick. Just a block of complete shit heads. Elon Musk has announced that his scheduled time as a special government employee is now coming to an end. Oh, yeah. Definitely our writer, Jam said it has real, Pucci died on the way back to his home planet, energy. But he also along the way, he's like, we accomplished what we aimed to. His initial goal was cutting spending, by the way, bad, cutting spending bad.

But his idea was he's going to cut it by $2 trillion. And then he was like, started being like, and like we said, we're going to cut it to $1 trillion. And then the next time that he was talking about it publicly, he was like, we're going to cut it to like $150 billion. So bit off more than he could chew and is yeah, just all around the latest person to be like, I'm going to use this Trump guy and then just get completely fucking owned by Trump. Yeah. Walk out the other side, massively diminished in so many different ways. Do you need? You do love to see it.

He got fucking like everything. You will get played. He plays his own fucking kids, bro. You're not going to fucking walk out of there unscathed. You will walk out of there being like, God damn, I got played. What the fuck? And not even that. I'm like, I feel bad for you.

That's what you get. OK. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. The one joy we have of this fucking administration. Just walk out of there with your head hung low. But I mean, like, this is all coming as Musk is publicly disagreeing with Trump over the spending bill, being like it's kind of antithetical to the whole Doge mission to like increase spending like that's like, dude, just shut up. Like you, you

couldn't even hit he got pressed by a report is like, even if you cut this much money every single day, you still wouldn't hit your goal. Like in the timeframe, you're saying he's like, and he like lost it because they just bothered to do a simple calculations. Like it's not about that. It's not about that. It's like, well, that's what you're saying. Doge will do. But yeah, now we're kind of we're truly seeing just how weakened Musk is. There's also this these reports like where Musk suddenly appeared on Trump's Middle East like grifter trip, like in a really like, oh, yeah, what's Elon Musk doing there?

Apparently he was there because he caught wind of a deal that was going to be announced between the White House, United Arab Emirates and his main op Sam Altman's open AI for some big earth killer fucking AI project. And he went there to try and poison the well and sour the deal to either get Altman off of it or to get his company X AI to also be named in it. And he had no capital. They're like, yeah, sorry, we're going through with it. There's nothing you can do. And he was like, fuck. So now he's slunking at us. Just all like, well, I guess my term is up. But he is taking, like I said, he just hired Stephen Miller's wife

to work for him personally. So wait until he gets her pregnant. I know maybe I'm saying maybe Musk heard that she had three kids with teenage mutant ninja gurgles and was like, Oh, fertile are we? Cause I do not have intercourse, but I like to be around fertile people. Um, so yeah, open this envelope, please. And create your pregnant with my child. Don't ask.

Also when you like, when you,, you're pregnant with my child. How? Don't ask. Also when you multiply things with negative numbers, it becomes negative, right? So those two, the lack of charisma between like, Stephen Miller times Elon Musk times his wife, the child that that would create would be just a human black hole. Yeah, antimatter. Yeah. It would be, yeah, anti-matter.

Yeah. That would consume the mother. Yeah, it'd be like the energy vampire from what we do in the shadows, but then also has a chainsaw for some reason. Like the most frightening, confusing thing, yeah. I will say the chainsaw is the one good, because usually the conservatives who slash spending and just ruin all governmental

programs, don't do it with a lot of flair. They're usually like, they know that it's bad, so they do it behind closed doors. So for somebody to do a Nazi salute and then come through with a prop gigantic chainsaw and like completely ruin all of these government programs. I do feel like, you know, we're just, just by necessity, I think we're headed for a shift where people are going to, you know, the end of this neoliberal idea that like government spending bad privatization gave us a Coca-Cola. So like must be good.

I think we're headed for an end to that thinking, but I think this is helpful. It helps that shift along its way for people to be like, oh yeah, they like literally like celebratory in a celebratory manner, just shredded all these things that the world relies on that our world relies on. Yeah. So congratulations. I mean, like a truly a complete fucking moron. And yeah, as you people, as people read articles about it and they talk about why he's leaving and like there's a Washington published article.

He's like, we're doze just became the whipping boy for everyone's misgivings about what's happening. And it's really unfair. You're so mean to do not one mention of his Nazi shit. Come the fuck on you. What the fuck? Anyway, whatever. about what's happening. It's really unfair. So mean to do not one mention of his Nazi shit. Come the fuck on you. What the fuck? Anyway, whatever. Yeah.

He's like, all I did was shotgun amphetamines and put on meme glasses and come like, you know, deal with racist salutes. Why is everybody so mad at me? This is how he described it in an interview on CNBC CNBC like about, he's like, everyone, this is just absurd. He basically said, he said, in fact, every politician, any public speaker who has spoken for any length of time has made the exact same gesture. He kept saying he addressed his Nazi salute. He's saying, he's like, they're trying to misconstrue. I said, my heart goes out to you. My heart goes, oh, easy, baby, easy, poppy.

It's you. And also, you can't like give somebody the middle finger and be like, no, no, I'm just pointing to your mouth. Right. You know what I mean? Like, you can't, no, there are gestures that mean this. You know this. You know.

I'm at a time when he was giving speeches and like pushing for Germany to stop being so hard on themselves about their past. Yeah, truly. He was basically like, get over the Holocaust already. At that time, he did say like, my heart goes out to you after he did this. He also stopped his speech, stepped to the side, and then gave the most enthusiastic Nazi salute possible. Like the Nazis would call that SOP, standard operating procedure. It would be like, you're doing a lot.

Yeah. You're like, that's all that was very like, you, you almost like threw your back out when you did that. So we're trying not to, like, we want this to be sustainable. Yeah. Hitler, if Hitler saw that he'd be like, is that boy has too much dip on his chip? And Hitler was flying on him. Fed up.

He was like, that guy's got way too much. Have you ever seen that clip of him just like rocking back and forth with the Olympics? lying on him said, yeah, that guy's got way too. Have you ever seen that clip of him just like rocking back and forth? He's just like, so fucking high. Yeah. And then did it again. And then lest anybody think that he was fucking around or only let's not forget the string of impersonate, like other people who are like, oh, OK, it's cool. Oh, we good here.

That like in the following events, like in conservative events, people start doing it. And then they're like, oh, that was that was not what I was doing. It was like, what are you? Fuck. Yeah. And then he also didn't he kind of immediately tweet a whole bunch of like not Holocaust puns about it. Right. He's been he's always I don't know, maybe he did. I think he did.

Yeah. Which is psychotic. Like you cannot, you know what I mean? The whole thing is this, it's all trolling. It's all, again, this is a 59, 64 year old man who's desperate for the validation of 4chan in 2011. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Victor. Victor Quintez, obviously, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Victor. Victor points out that Nick Quintez, the like, open Nazi guy. Legit. I think Holocaust good. I am Nazi. He was like, are you, wait, are you kidding me? You don't think that was Nazi? Obviously. He opened his, y'all, he's with us.

He just opened his next show just like laughing. He was like, oh my God. He did it. All right. Even he was like, a little too much dip on your chip there. Yeah, he was like, that was a lot. That was full blown. Yeah, you can't just throw the frog in a boiling pot of Nazi water. You know what I mean?

You got to turn it up gradually. Bad for sales. Yeah, for the very least, yeah. We that learned. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Amy Robach and TJ Holmes here. Diddy's former protege, television personality, platinum selling artist, Denity King alum Aubrey O'Day joins us to provide a unique perspective on the trial that has captivated the attention of the nation. Aubrey O'Day is sitting next to us here. You are, as we sit here, right up the street from where the trial is taking place. Some people saw that you were going to be in New York and they immediately started jumping to conclusions. So can you clear that up? First of all, are you here to testify

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Oh, go on. The Russian government is making a propaganda cartoon for toddlers. The only clip that has been released so far, the show is called Sand Pit for some reason. It's like Pixar. You've seen these animations, like a Coco-Mellon level. It's like Pixar.

Giant-eyed, freaky baby face. I love that the closest Russians can get to being cute is sand pit. Like, they're like, it's what children will call it buzzsaw hammer face. Go play in the sand pit. You mean the sandbox? Yes, whatever. OK. Welcome to Tetanus Garden. There is no time for joy over the age of two.

All right. So we get to see in the clip, Putin, Kim Jong-un, Elon Musk and Trump. So this should be called Russian puppet babies. Yeah, that's right. Puppet babies, we've got a compromise on you. It is designed to instill patriotism from an early age and teach Russian preschool children to quote, discuss geopolitics. I kind of love the scene. That's noble.

Diggs at Macron's wife's age and references to the collapse of Skype. You know, you know, the stuff that kids like. To teach kids that to hate the fact that women age. You're never too young. No, that's not the lesson. What we are doing is thumbing our noses at the French Republic. That's the point of that misogynistic swipe. It's don't get it confused.

Mr. Macron should not be allowed to hang out with the other leaders on holiday in Istanbul. What? Okay. Because you're always with your granny. Burn. Oh, man. Oh, because they're talking about hanging with Erdogan in Turkey. That's why they're all okay. That makes sense. That like really like you have to be paying attention to international politics. How are you going to make Erdogan look cute? What is that version look like? They made everybody look cute.

It's kind of weird. Putin just looks fucking haunted. Everybody looks cute. And then Putin has a receding hairline and eyes that look like they've seen both World Wars. At the same time. Yes. That's hilarious that their call out of this

is that even among dictators, Putin is troubling, you know. I think this is the trouble with telling AI to make depictions of people because it's like, oh yeah, like we can work with Kim Jong-un. We kind of got a round baby face. That'll work. Trump even fine. Putin. They're like, we've only got these like weird ghoulish photos of him. Coming back ghostly. Like it is the kid that would die in the next scene. Oh yeah. Yeah. Of yeah, that would be like, and then he caught the consumption. And is he wearing like a terry cloth karate gi? He's wearing a karate gi because one of his big judo.

Big judo guy. Yeah. Yeah. He big judoka. Yeah. He big judo. Putin? He big judo.

And judo no? And judo no? Your guns are hand me downs. Okay. I'm sorry. You didn't know that. And I'm sorry to be the one to tell you that saying yes, but I will get you that shit that Gretzky skate on, but I, we do just want to acknowledge here that this

is nothing new for Americans. Oh no. We have been at the forefront of brainwashing children with presidential propaganda for Americans. Oh, no. We have been at the forefront of brainwashing children with presidential propaganda for decades. More recently, there's just been a couple of Maggaloilists who have created children's books, I guess, by turning Trump into a children's book hero. It's just weird how effective it is. Right.

It's almost like he's really receptive to children book level, like that medium for whatever reason speaks particularly to Trump. I'm not going to say it has anything to do with his reading level, but his current ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, published his kid's guide to President Trump last year. The book supports the execution of drug smugglers, describes illegal immigration as when people come to take money and jobs without paying taxes, sneak in to sell drugs, commit other crimes, and in the worst case, commit acts of terrorism. Kid stuff again, like fun, fun stuff for children.

And yet somehow they're capturing the youth vote. No, how? Yeah. Cause kids love some. They're not paying taxes. That's what they're going to talk about on the seesaw later. Yeah. You know they're not paying taxes, right? Hey, when people don't pay taxes. By the way, obviously, the Republicans are the people who don't pay taxes.

Right. Immigrants actually pay taxes at much higher rate than non-immigrants. Then you have FBI Director Cash Patel, who before getting that job wrote a trilogy of kids books in which Trump is a king whose election is threatened. You fucking losers. The plot against the king is one of them. He's only victorious thanks to a wizard named cash.

So like truly just, I'm, this was aimed at Trump. Like this is square. Like he's going to read it because it's like at his level. Yeah. And I'm going to just slide some information. So I don't know that this is necessarily aimed at children as much as this one's aimed at an aging man with the reading level of a child. Yeah.

But there have been, I mean, but even before this era, there've been tons of comic books starring US presidents from both parties. Just turning the president into a kid-friendly hero. There's the famous Spider-Man comic in which an impersonator takes Barack Obama's form and Spider-Man comic in which an impersonator takes Barack Obama's form. And Spider-Man has to stop the impersonator and then determine the real Obama via his basketball skills.

What? Yeah. Oh, wow. The time-honored Negro verification device, the basketball. What the fuck kind of writing is that? Let me see that, wow. The time honored Negro verification device, the basketball. What the fuck kind of writing is that? J. OK. OK, homeboy. Let me see you go around the world with it like what the fuck? I actually need to see this comic book now. What is he like? At which point the real Obama

thanks Peter Parker with a fist bump. Did Chad write this from the last story? Oh yeah. My friend Obama, the basketball man. Not the president? Ask him about geopolitics even? Let's see how nice you are with the rock, Finn. Let's see how good he is at rapping.

Yeah, like the next one. Okay, challenge three. Breakdancing competition. What the fuck? Like the next one. Okay challenge three break dancing competition What the fuck so they're like and then just some other black guy takes his place and nobody can tell the difference That's the real problem that's the real scary thing this President who's gonna know how are we gonna know and that's the alarm we were trying to raise in this amazing Spider-Man issue. It was a massive hit. Hundreds of people were standing in color.

I think it was early, it was like inauguration day of the first Obama administration. Racism died that day, I get it. Finally, we can get away with saying this stuff. Racism's over. I just want to say, I think this is so cool. I think this is so cool. I think this is going to be my favorite Spider-Man edition I've ever bought.

Yeah, we've got to find like the videos of people going to buy this. I just remember, I think a lot of any black person who voted that day will probably have probably the same experience of a white person looking at you and be like, mm-hmm, hey, we're doing it, huh? In it together. We're doing it. I'm like, oh, fuck. And then I remember there's another at the time because I was living at my

my childhood home, like with my mom. There's this other black dude in the neighborhood. We had a moment like looking at each other and like, OK, man, look, gay Obama, baby. I think another guy like, huh? Huh? Trying to get in there. You like dove between your eye contact. Yeah, he like tried to kiss like about to dab each other up.

He's like, yes, my guys. Fucks up the handshake. Yes, we can. I'm like, what are you doing? Why are you wrapping your fingers in my hands? Why'd you grab my fist and then fist bump my palm? Don't ever ask me what's bracking again. You can get fucked up for saying things like that.

And it goes back to Nixon worked with the Fantastic Four. Superman was buddies with JFK, obviously. Were you on that one dip shit? Yeah, slower than a speeding bullet. Yeah, damn, son. I mean, if you even think about it, remember there, Bill Clinton's cat had a fucking video game. Yeah, the cat rocks the hill was I remember that game and I was

like, bro, this game I remember renting it a blockbuster shit. You really rent? Yes, bro. I because at the time, when I was going there, I was getting games on Super Nintendo, the only thing I wanted was f zerozero or Street Fighter 2 they were always out So then I would have to go to some consolation game and then there are a hundred copies of the bill You get you get this game fucking socks the cat and you got fucking bill plant. Do you guys not remember this game? No, I want to play it bad. It's Fucking terrible. Anyway, it socks kind of a jerk.

He looks like he's got a little bit of like kind of Bart Simpson attitude. He's kind of doing his thing. I think there's a reference. You got Nixon. There's all kinds of shit. Yeah. Real. What does this one say?

No, we're whatever. There's like people. He's like protesters. You know what, I feel like we need protesters. You know what? I feel like we need to find this game again. Now that I'm like, what happened to this game? Looks incredible. Anyway, so yeah. Like a true high point of neoliberalism.

Oh, yeah. Super Nintendo game made about Clinton's cat. War criminal with a saxophone. Oh, man. It's like this saxophone did so much work for him. And the front, the cover art for the Super Nintendo game, like looks like it got some notes back that was like, I don't know, could the job be a little bit bigger? A little more square guy. I should have a job like my name is Chad or less gray hair. Yeah. Is there

a level where he has to dodge accusations from Monica Lewinsky? No. Who's like a big scary evil boss. Yeah. Like fiery eyes. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr.

Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. I sucked your dick. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr.

Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. Rawr, rawr, rawr. It's kind of wild that this whole trend got started because the very first example of this is the 1960s Saturday morning cartoon super president in which the commander in

chief, which is just like kind of a generic commander in chief because it was LBJ at the time. Nobody was like, yeah, LBJ would be a cool Saturday morning cartoon character. So they just had a generic blondehaired president who got superpowers, and everyone was like, this is bad. The Vietnam War is happening. This is a quote the National Association of Broadcasters called the show, which aired in the midst of the Vietnam War,

quote, an all-time low in bad taste with the president of the United States in a Superman role. NBC was responsible for this direct ideological approach to totalitarianism. We fear that there may be other broadcasters who are irresponsible enough to keep it in circulation. I like that they were on the lookout for totalitarianism back then. Yeah, they're like, couldn't be us. Y'all ain't even talking about the Ted Offensive that just happened.

What the fuck is going on with you? I also love they really kept it in line just reminding people, it's like, yo, we'll drop a fucking bomb on you because the logo on top of the Super President's chest, he got an atomic particle. Yeah, he has the atomic logo. Don't get it fucked up.

We do have that thing on us. Like 15 years later. Yeah, but still. This is happening in the 60 logo. Don't get it fucked up. We do have that thing on us. Like 15 years later. Yeah. It's happening in the 60s. This is like because that was kind of like memory. There was that whole like atomic sort of aesthetic trend back then, you know, or like there were like clocks and things that were all sort of like inspired by atomic shit. Yeah. It's also like people are seeing, you know, in Vietnam, they're seeing actual photos of the war.

So this propaganda is so far behind that to be like, no, no, you can't address this with a cartoon motherfuckers. Like, what is happening? Do something serious. It's also wild that the president has a white hood on. Is it? Yeah. It's like a white, it's not point to your white Batman mask, but you can't really see that without at least, you know, thinking of the clan.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You can't pull that off. Sorry. Sorry, Chad. I know you love that white chisty that you wear out in public, but it kind of feels like a clan hood. Well, Mort Burke, what a pleasure having you back. Thanks for having me. but it kind of feels like a clan hood. Well, Mort Burke, what a pleasure having you back.

Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah. At Mort Burke on the socials. Please listen to rebrand, listen to rebrand the podcast with my lovely wife, Ashley Burch. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Great show. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?

You know what I really okay, there's this is like a Coppola quote or something from a while ago, who's like this like 2009 or something. He's like, there's a woman, there's a random like eight year old girl in Iowa, who just has access to you know, cameras that are starting to be able to and she's like a filmic genius. there's this YouTube video. I was randomly suggested the other day, which is like this the most beautiful piece of like pastiche art and it's about grief and it's called 2021 and it's by McKenna Magasis MAGASIS It's like really sad and powerful and beautiful. It reminds me of like the time in YouTube

where if you didn't have to be a corporation, you could post something good. Before it was just like, you're only being suggested videos by Mr. Beast being like, what if we made these housewives live like POWs? You know? Like, so anyway, it's this really beautiful piece of work called 2021 McKenna McGases.

Sounds great. We will link off to that in the footnotes. Where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere. They have at symbols at miles of gray. Where else? Basketball podcast, miles of Jack on Bad Boosties, 90 Day Fiancé podcast,

420 Day Fiancé. That's where you find alternative topics. Not just us talking about how sick Chad's are, dude, and Bill Quinn, Bill Clinton's fucking video game. A couple of works on media. I like this essay by Ruby Nell sales in the shed.org. It was just in a, just an essay on, you know, talking about whiteness. She's a brilliant, brilliant thinker, scholar, activist.

I'll link to that in the footnotes. It's just brilliant, brilliant thinker, scholar, activist. I'll link to that in the footnotes. I just thought of it as Rick reading the Chad article, and it's just her expounding on whiteness and how it robs us all of our humanity, I think is a really interesting topic. So if you're interested in that article, that will be in the footnotes,

also talking about social nihilism. He's starting a conversation. That's all the Chad was trying to do. And you know what? And that's beautiful guys. And, and, and honestly, you're welcome. He's fucking saying, um, in terms of little bits of posts and wacky things. I like, yes, there are a couple of things, uh, at, uh, uh,

posts and wacky things I like. Yes, there are a couple of things. At otumamiboi.beastguy.social, AKA Lupita Nihongo, which is the Japanese word for Japanese, it posted on Blue Sky, we are like six months from having them outlaw seat belts. And it's like, yeah, yeah, we're getting there. We're getting there.

Then Ken Jennings at Kenjennings.beastguy.social posted, dressing like a guy in Andor now. My shirt collar is also part of my jacket somehow. My tie is some kind of strap. I have two capes on. That's how that Andor drip does look. Nice. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien

on blue sky at Jack OB the number one, uh, working media. I've been enjoying Uber driver hiccups at Idaho bones tweeted. You are not giving me time back by ending a meeting early. My time was mine all along and the time I had with you was incredible and worth every second. Oh. And, uh, Sono S-O-N-O-H-O-O-R

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From what I'm reading and this track is called funny. It's like a super kind of dreamy psyche track Rock, I don't know who to kind of compare it to. It just has like this, like the vocals are super ethereal, dreamy and it's like I didn't know if they were speaking French or what but they're speaking English so it's totally like muddled but the vibe is like nice. So this is a good way to kick off your weekend. This is Funny by Bronco. Hell yeah. We will link off to that in the footnote. For the daily zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio.

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