The Daily Zeitgeist - The OutZeiters 10/29: Nickelodeon, Jack Nicklaus, Halloween, Miracle Whip

Episode Date: October 29, 2020

On this edition of the OutZeiters Jack and Miles discuss Nickelodeon's "Presidential Election for Kids" being hacked by 4Chan, Jack Nicklaus has endorsed Donald Trump, there are many clever devices being made to distribute candy, and the debate between Mayo and Miracle Whip on a sandwich...rages on Twitter? Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's Ponyboy, right? His Outsiders? Yeah, yeah, I think so. Is that a rumble fish? I always get those confused. No, no, it's Outs, because I remember that was the book we read, and our teacher was clearly of the age when that movie came out. It was very important to her. And she's like, yeah, we should actually watch the movie.

And I was like, damn. It's weird. It was like that age where you forget that actors existed before you were born or had careers. And I'm like, wait, Ralph Macchio is in a movie that isn't karate kid and matt dylan is also in this it was very confusing to see the outsiders as a young kid that's when i realized ralph macchio was actually like in his 40s when karate kid 3 came out because like oh man all right let's tell the people what is trending. Nickelodeon was trending last night, I think, because they do every election year

their presidential election for kids, where kids get to weigh in and vote for who they think's going to win or who they would vote for if they had the right to vote um and this year's vote was hacked by right-wing trolls uh using fucking nickelodeon vote for trump wasn't isn't it like something so like the marketing title is so funny like it's oh yeah kids pick the president come on nickelodeon kids they had to fucking hack that thing yeah biden's been slimed you can't do

that in the white house oh boy so yeah he someone found 4chan posts where people were bragging about how it would be funny to make it look like kids picked trump uh which is kind of funny yeah i'm glad that they're just focused on the optics and not real life outcomes well yeah that i mean some people that's another level of dedication we'll we'll see hopefully they haven't actually hacked the real election but um yeah they're saying that, according to them, Nickelodeon literally airs BLM propaganda. Oh, were they doing recitations and readings from different civil rights leaders?

Is that what they're calling it? They actually did go off air for 8 minutes, 46 seconds, following the murder of George Floyd. What? I like how that's even propaganda. Like, right. There's nothing like a kid would be like,

be like, they're going to be like, mom, Nickelodeon's not, it's dark. What's going on? For a kid, you're going to,

they're going to see that blank screen and they're not going to put together that there's systemic white supremacy and like police brutality is a major issue. They're just going to be like, what like spongebob isn't on but i guess anything that acknowledges anything is well everything's propaganda all right go on 4chan trolls yeah yeah anyways nickelodeon had to throw out 130 000 bot generated votes uh and eventually Biden won but he only got 53% of the vote. Trump got 47% which is worse than Hillary did in

2016. Dangerous times. What's after Gen Z? Are these kids all still Gen Z? That's a great question. I think we just have to give up. They can't be Gen Z, right? they'll just be like the after mutants

right or jenna oh god jenna and then that's what we'll do and they'll be like why do they always say that it's a reference to a movie from 1994 right or three or whatever the shit that came out but yeah um cool i guess the kids are aren't totally all right but uh you know yeah keep our eye on that who like what what child who's too young to vote is like i team trump i guess you do see like those kids waiting outside of his like uh rallies with the it's just all what's in your house you know what i mean yeah like you you go off of what people are saying in your house like i'm lucky that my dad was on some like super progressive shit so i didn't grow up hearing like lame shit except about like bad music i guess but like you know other kids i remember kids who was

like houses were like george bush to the fuck out and they're like ge weirder like a kid being like bush hell yeah yeah i mean in i i do remember when i was like 12 and the um or even younger than that i guess when uh the first gulf war happened and people were about it and like collecting the different uh air force bombers uh that you could collect and like getting the old snacks for the propaganda toys that came out during the first gulf war or i still i remember i bought i had three out of four like armed forces ninja turtle figures that they had like there was each branch like rafael he's in the air force donatello is in the army and you're like they had a full-on desert camel on and i was like and i'm like wait this is completely desensitizing me to like what might actually be happening because there's a ninja

turtle analog for me to play with and splinter's best friend storm and norman schwartzkopf another controversy i don't want to uh move past this too quickly because there's also Winter's best friend, Stormin Norman Schwarzkopf. Another controversy. I don't want to move past this too quickly because there's also important news that they did not include third party candidates this year in the Nickelodeon. Kids picked the president. So that actually pissed off libertarian candidate Joe Jorgensen, who complained about Nickelodeon on Twitter and then Nickelodeon was like fuck you two grown up adults were bickering online

over the political ethics of a network best known for sliming people so 2020 yep Jack Nicklaus is trending what a man I didn't realize he was still alive for starters yeah but yes jack nicholas uh he he's unfortunately i hate to say this i gang he has

wrapped up the election for donald trump with his 478 000 twitter followers jack nicholas the golden shower bear has told his followers followers, I'm out you for Trump. And his, dude, this statement he writes, through the years, I have been blessed to personally know several presidents on both sides of the aisles. All were good people, all over their country, and all believed in the American dream. I've had the privilege over the last three and a half years to get to know our current president a little more as his term has progressed. I've been very disappointed at what he's had to put up with from many directions. But with that, I have seen a resolve and determination do the right thing for our country. He has delivered on his, but this is like all going on. He's like, I'm just a guy from Ohio is what he says,

pursuing the American dream. Then he goes down to say, you might not like the way our president says or tweets some things. And trust me, I have told him that, but I have learned to look past that and focus on what he's tried to accomplish. Well, which is cementing and encasing white supremacy legally in this country. Oh, I don't think he wrote that part. I think it was a parenthetical.

And then he says, this is not a personality contest about patriotism. Then goes on just basically saying like Trump is, you know, he's a, he's an American and not basically, he says this won't turn into a socialist America if he's elected. So everything's socialism.

Just like that tweet where there's someone that's been going around for like the last year that people say like, you know how your parents called every video game system Nintendo? That's like what, like how conservatives talk about socialism. Like if it's humane. It's socialism. Like the fuck are you talking about yeah oh fuck man what a piece of shit uh what an absolute piece of shit well our young zeitgang fans uh there there's uh jack nicholas golf courses across the country that are badly in need of having their fairway torn up yeah or salted yeah so just just a thought we can't uh condone that or suggest you actually no that's an awful idea and in fact we're against that yes totally against it and don't do anything like that and

jack don't mind what's in my eye on this zoom call i'm not watching i have something uh so halloween uh is trending because people aren't i don't know they're like halloween but typing halloween into google but it does bring up some articles about these people who are like going the extra distance to do a social distance to halloween give out candy through these pvc pipes there's candy catapults someone planted a candy garden where there's just like candy stuck on their lawn uh they're making uh lazy people look bad fuck that oh hell yeah yeah like you know some of these like pvc pipe candy dispensary systems are like, they've gone big. There's like dragon that like pukes candy at kids like directly into there.

It's like, come on, what are we trying to prove here? It's let's take this time to just let people spend time with their family and spook each other inside their house. I mean, while I commend the energy being put into, you know, making sure kids have a Halloween this year, you know, kids deserve a Halloween. I wish people put half the energy into making sure kids are getting, like, fed, you know what I mean?

Yeah. Shit like that. But it's, I get it. We all trying to find our normalcy. But, God, some of, like, it's true. The energy put into these things is truly astonishing which goes to show you like when you're about something doesn't matter what like nothing can get in your way like i said cannot be stopped these like me yeah me i go into a debutante ball for my high

school girlfriend i loved weed so much i found a way to smoke weed in a tuxedo and not stink on my way there because i use a garbage bag suit i've got arm holes in a garbage bag i have all my shit fucking encased in plastic i was only hitting it from like the neck up blowing it out the car window got there uh with my eyes again redder than the voter registration of the fathers in that building um but it was a good time but yeah shout out to them i like the candy garden that feels like low energy manageable yeah yeah because they're just putting nice like sticks in the ground you're like oh look i've plucked a kit kat from the yard that feels all right but when

it's both the most manageable to do also the one that's gonna go wrong the fastest because like 12 year olds 13 year olds are just going to sweep through there and just pick everything up like you can't expect like locusts have you seen these teen kids they don't know the definition just two at most two at most i'm sorry how old are you young lady how old are you you're i'm sorry you're too old you're 17 you're too old i'm sorry i always like feel a little bit bad 17. You're too old. I'm sorry. I always like feel a little bit bad for the older kids. Like I'm always like,

I'm not, I'm not going to deny you just cause you're old. Like it's just sad. Well, but then I think there's a difference, right there. You get the teen kids who like they're, they're living it still. They love to trick or treat.

Then you have kids who are just drunk off Mike's hard lemonades and just like cruising through with a half-ass outfit being like i don't know let's just do this shit but like let's be edgy and drunk and then like yeah make a scene yeah and they don't have a costume on i still feel sorry for them because wow i don't have something better to do come on oh in that sense it's not even like you're like all right help yourself i feel bad for their social calendar uh all right what was the last? Just for the record, what was your last trick-or-treat age-wise? I remember going trick-or-treating when I lived in Kentucky, which was eighth grade. But I went with my little sister, so I was kind of taking her around.

Right, right. And I wasn't dressed up, so I guess that. No, that doesn't count. So it was probably when i was 12 was probably my last time that i went without my little sister i think when i started getting pubic hairs when i stopped so that was about 23 and since then i've just been you know been focused on more adult shit right right uh finally miracle whip is trending because it's the great debate of our time. Miracle Whip versus regular

mayo, I guess, is what people say. Twitter, it's like one thing after another. People are talking about Miracle Whip. People have quotes like someone tweeted, anyone who can't tell the difference between mayonnaise and Miracle Whip is probably still one of those undecided voters.

As much as I'd be like oh i wonder if like miracle whip did something good organically got a conversation going because miracle whip is named by brand and mayonnaise is obviously just mayo but i guess i guess why people i get why people are being specific about miracle whip but either way the the the just taking the temperature off the internet, people fucking hate Miracle Whip. That makes sense to me. It's a very specific taste, especially if you are expecting mayonnaise. It's not mayonnaise. It's got a tartness. It's basically salad dressing.

It's putting salad dressing on your sandwich. I think it's referred to as a dressing anyway. It's never like... I think it's directly like what it is is mayonnaise mixed with Italian dressing. That's basically what you're getting. I like it because my grandma used to put it on turkey sandwiches and she made some ill turkey sandwiches.

Yeah, it's just like... On wheat bread? No, white bread toasted. Oh, man. My grandma used to make it on turkey sandwiches and she made some ill turkey sandwiches. Yeah. It's just like, uh, no white bread toasted. Oh man. Uh, and she, my grandma used to make it on wheat bread and I, the only time I would eat wheat bread was when my grandma would make it a

turkey sandwich. It's the wildest thing though, because like things that I didn't like in any other context I liked in, on her sandwiches, she would like cut red onions on it. And I was like, I don't like onions. But then when she would put the like cut red onions on it and i was like i don't like onions but then

when she would put the the red onions raw red onions on a turkey sandwich with a miracle whip i mean yeah i don't know they're the miracle whips trying to get in there with their account and be like hey what's going on y'all shut the fuck up miracle whip you fucking idiot and that was it sounded like miles was doing that voice that was actually a recording of miracle whip the brand uh talking that's what they sound like it's always miracle hey you guys talking about me shut the fuck up miracle whip idiot i mean honestly the best the only thing i like about miracle whip is the kanye line from last call when he said mayonnaise color bench i pushed miracle whips i always thought he was too impressed

by that line um personally but what do you mean it's just not that good a line and he like talks about how he like came up with it he wraps it and then also talks about how he came up with it uh and like how good he thought it was uh wow well that's like all right i mean that's the one he ends i think that's the last rhyme like the last verse uh on that whole track and then it's like five minutes of like yeah so uh then i met so how i came up with that okay thanks thanks for this the behind the immediate behind the music yeah somehow i do love that song i've just always thought that's my favorite song on that album yeah me like this the album is fantastic and yes let me mourn uh early kanye or whatever

but that one had me because at the moment i was like a disillusioned person in college when i was like yeah man like oh i'm now my mom a person now she's louis vuitton mom i want to do that yeah uh all right that is gonna do it that's what's trending this thursday afternoon uh we're back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves wear a mask stay inside wash your hands don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.

In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before. Tried to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current.

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of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone

Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with Grammy award-winning rapper Eve on motherhood and the music industry. Nah, it's a great, amazing, beautiful thing.

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