The Daily Zeitgeist - The Rehearsal Discussion, Trump Dry Snitching On Self 09.02.22

Episode Date: September 2, 2022

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What a season finale we have in store for you. You heard our voice already, baby. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. I don't know what that was. just shared consciousness i don't know what that was uh it's friday september 2nd 2022 miles two yeah nine two two two two nine two two two you already i mean look it's national vj day shout out to who's your favorite ntv vj i would say mine is kennedy because she stayed true to herself and now she's on fox news i've always just appreciated her strong libertarian takes. I think probably, was that Adam Curry?

Like, I was an old-school MTV fan. I didn't really. I liked MTV when I was into hair metal, when I was, like, two years old. Adam Curry, the dude with the big feathered hair? I think that's, like, the only that's the only person I could think of. And he was like a real, by design, zero, right? He didn't bring anything to the table.

Yeah, I mean, he was just there to usher you through the videos. Also, National College Color Days. Is Tabitha an answer? Tabitha Storm. She's MTV News. I would elevate her slightly out of the muck and mire of being a VJ. Well, because I learned about her through her art and then learned on the back end that she had been a VJ. Because that was before my time.

She's an artist, okay. Wait, what's her art like? Yeah, she's a really good artist. She does studio art. Like painting? Yeah. Like arty art. It's good.

I really like it. I followed her on Instagram because of her art and then found out she'd been a VJ. It's like finding out Gia Tolentino was a reality show contestant. You're just like, huh? Okay. In a way you're like,

you might need to have that like spectrum of experience to go there. Right. Anyway, national college colors day. Shout them out. What are you? Navy and gray, Jack.

Navy and gray, baby. Is that what you'd say? Like at Georgetown? Like, yeah, come on, Navy. Hoya blue and sacks of gray. Hoya blue and sacks of gray. Shout out light blue and gold for my brew brews. And what about you, Jamie?

My college colors? Purple and gold. Oh, hell yeah. Purple and gold. Yeah, we had the colors of the lakers but the twist is we had no sports teams there was go you lions at math and movies not math i'm kidding yeah it's like go you musical theater dweebs no no offense but pejorative yes anyway Lazy Moms too because that's their day too. I don't know what the fuck that's.

Lazy Moms? It feels like a marketing for like a new. It's very like gender normative. We're like moms are so busy because men don't do shit, right? Because of that, you know, like kick your shoes off. I don't know what it is, but yeah, just it says when possible, finding someone to watch the children for a few hours is worth it. Sometimes.

You can do that when I'm in my man cave. What the fuck? Other times, mothers and fathers. You're on. Oh, shit. Sorry.

Also, take out that Patriots helmet In my man cave Anyways my name is Jack O'Brien At first I was afraid A real noodle guy Kept thinking I could never bulk With these little puny quads But then I spent so many nights

Taking dues right to the dome And I grew strong My thighs grew so fucking strong. That goes on for minutes. Oh, shit. That is an epic opus from Lex Luthor. Shout out to you. Shout out to the throwback to, I feel like that was something that we talked about a long time ago, how strong my thighs were.

Anyways, you have strong thighs too, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Playing ice hockey? Ice hockey, man. Oh, yeah. Hockey legs. Oh, yeah.

I was pushing frigging goals around the rink, bro, at four years old. Pushing. Oh, right. The full-size goals, bro. Yeah. You can thank my hockey coaches for that. And genetics, probably. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Oops, I tweeted again. I played with the law, got lost in my brain. Oh, baby, baby, oops, I think I'm in trouble. Feds fuck me up up i'm not that innocent i love that it ends the same way could you do the titanic section all aboard miles wait oh man i just thought that up i was typing that in the intro because i was like i think there's something there because we're going to talk about trump dry snitching on himself i think there's something here well and it turns out there was you hit pay dirt my friend with that aka hey speaking

of pay dirt we are thrilled to be joined by one of the very faces on mount zeitmore she is an emmy nominated writer an artist and comedian behind acclaimed one-woman shows such as Boss Huma's Girl and Mrs. Joseph Chestnut, America, USA, and the acclaimed podcast The Bechdelcast, My Year Immense, a Lolita podcast,

Vulture's number one podcast for 2021, Atcast, Ghost Church. It's Jamie fucking Lofty! Jamie Lofty. Jamie Lofty. Jamie, come back. Jack and Miles will stop feuding. Jamie, come back.

We can make up over Zambonis. Ooh. Wow. Guys, I'm so glad we settled the score. I'm so glad. That was such a fun tweet. Somebody was like, God, you guys are too good for jamie and lacy now i'm always like it's funny what happens i'm like do you know that they're massively successful and have actually gone have gone past what the show is that's kind

of what's happened it i mean me and lacey immediately had to be like, what are you talking about? But the person just acted as if, and in classic Twitter behavior, pretended we had not said anything, did not respond to us, and was like, I don't know. Something seems fishy here. Something's off.

We responded to you. I love it. I don't know. Another season of iCarly. I don't know. More activity for Jamie's career. I don't know. How can they fit Daily Zeitgeist into that?

Look, I love the conspiracy theories. Keep them coming. We all like each other. We're boring. It's hard because it's so boring. We were pissed, Jamie. This is the time we're going to tell you. And you guys can go back and listen to the last three episodes Jamie was on to figure out what she said that really teed us off.

Jack sent out an email that was like, we're not saying never again, but not for a while. Okay. Not for a while. But got my Lorne Michaels on. What's new, big money player? It's great to see you. it's great to see you too i was saying before we started recording i got like that old daily zeitgeist feeling i got butterflies in my stomach i'm ready to go i was like what is overrated what is underrated

my search history is a disaster remember that beginning of the pandemic and it was just the three of us it was just the three of us for like months trying to fucking make sense of it all that was such a i still think back at that and i'm like god what what early doors it was for that like global disaster and we're like i think funny but also really scared for. It was like the first two months where we were just like, so yeah, like, is this funny yet? And the answer was no, but you can't like, oh man. Then Rudy Giuliani told us that we're allowed to be funny again. Oh my God.

And I was so relieved because he was being funny all the time. The guy can't turn it off. Yeah. And that's, I think the biggest problem I have with him. Too much, too funny, all the time. He's always doing bits. Well, Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about.

We're talking about Trump dry snitching on himself on Payless Twitter. And most importantly, we are bringing in super producer Ana Hosnier for a rousing rendition of Ana's Streaming Corner on the subject of the rehearsal. So I'm excited to talk to you guys about that. Oh, yeah. But before we get to any of that shit, Jamie, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? All right. I did something that I do exactly once or so a year. I look up Stephen King's novels in order of length.

It's just something I do because every time I try to write something i'm like wait how long is some how long is anything supposed to be like do you know like when you're starting how long would something be or like i look up how many pages is in something it's not about email and it's got a higher word count than the stand. You know, you're in trouble. You know, it's time to start editing.

And the, the best part of all of this is how many Stephen King books have I read in my life? One, would I call myself a fan? Not really. But I, I,

my, he lived near my grandma. He's like the richest guy in town. And then my grandma lived. It was, it's a, it's a whole, there's a whole, whatever main system thing going on. But I just think of like someone who's, who's got a range of words and, uh, and it's Stephen King. I've only ever read Carrie.

I liked it. That's on the lower end of word count, which is why I read it. Give me like what the, like the sort of five, like what that list looks the lower end of word count which is why i read it give me like what the like the sort of five like what that list looks like and kind of where you're like well i don't want it to quite be this it needs to kind of hit more and like are you comparing it to his works too to be like i know that book and if that book's that long then yeah it's ultimately the absolute worst way to approach writing something because it's based on things i mostly haven't read the quality is very unclear to me and i'm just like if i could write okay so

carrie is around 60 000 words you're like all right that sounds like a book sure but then you've got what would you guess is in the up so the stand is the longest one by god God, I knew it. Not even by a lot, though. Could you guess what the second longest one is? I know there are books where he has, like, different entries in the trilogy, like the Dark Towers, or any of those near the top. Those are long as shit.

Dark Tower 7? What is the Dark Tower? And why am I using this man as my yardstick? But I do do and i have for a really long time even though i don't know what it's about i don't really like stephen king fans are fascinating to me because it's like the kind of fans where they're like so most of it is bad but i run my life by it and if you say i'm worried about it i will uh i will kill you yeah the dark tower seven whatever from 2004 272 000 words too many words that's too many words again jamie i'm gonna say too many

words i don't know where you're ranking your uh email that you're writing and trying to decide if it's long or not and it is kind of a google document I'm putting together about our feud. And I'm like, I want it to be novel-like, but I also want it to be accessible. Because I will be self-producing the audiobook as well. And so advertisers need to know around how many words is it so we can put in ad breaks and all that. It's going to ruin all three of us. It's going to be a catastrophe. That's fine. I mean, I'm just looking at how many words in the Bible and it's 783,000.

Oh, okay. Miles always says that's the ultimate bestseller. That's the art. See, and if I was taking writing seriously, that would be the art stick. But I'm not. How many chapters are we talking here? It is the second longest. It is.

It. Okay. It is. It. Okay. It is. Such a short word. It is 44, 441,000 words in it. Short title. Long book. Yeah.

Most of the words are it, though, in the book. It's true. A lot of people don't know that. I haven't read it, actually. I haven't read it. I'm not going to read it. I liked the movie. I haven't read it. I haven't read it. I'm not going to read it. I liked the movie. I think I don't actually really remember.

Anyways, I Googled that last night and then I had an absolute like meltdown because I was like, why am I always Googling this? I don't even know what it means. You're tethered to him. What is something you think is overrated? The beach. Okay.

Not the movie with Leonardo DiCaprio. And that movie song porcelain. The beach that does feature. I'm pretty sure a movie trope that Caitlin and I have spotted that means nothing, but happens all the time is Leonardo DiCaprio is very often submerged in a body of water, wearing all of his clothes. It happens in so many of his movies. It's in the beach is one of them.

Obviously you've got Titanic. It happens in inception. It happens in shutter Island. It happens in so many of his movies. Does it happen in catch me if you can? I feel like that might, I don't know. I don't get in close scene. I haven't seen that one in a long Island. It happens in so many of his movies. Does it happen in Catch Me If You Can? I feel like that might have been a soaking clothes scene. I don't know. I haven't seen that one in a long time.

I know that it happens in all the big ones. I think it happens in The Revenant. I think, yeah, you could assume anything happened in that film. It was just like off the Titanic energy. He was just like, this is what people want. Or maybe he doesn't want to be

i'm like i guess does leonardo dicaprio go shirt yeah i was like does he not go shirtless ever i don't really know i just know if he's getting wet usually all of his clothes are on and he's in the trenches it's never a sexy wet it's, Romeo plus Juliet, he's wearing all his clothes in the water. That's a sexy wet. But still. Isn't he coming to the room all wet in Romeo and Juliet? They love to get this guy

all sopping wet. And for what? Half the time it's because something horrible is about to happen to him, such as dying in the Titanic. But in other cases, there's a range range there's a sexy wet there's a psychologically traumatic wet i would say that's inception wet there's there's it's just like a weird thing but yes but no i was i'm thinking of the beach because i don't know i feel like once a year i

try to have a little beach day and and then we get to the beach i'm like wait a second this is horrible it's you can't the water is so cold the beach is so hot i feel so self-conscious and i'm going to hurt myself in some way. Yeah. And all of that happened. I mean, I had a lovely hydration. It's yeah.

I, I, you know, it was, it was a delight to have a day off to go to the beach, but I, but all the bad beach things, it's,

it's, it's wild to me. Are you guys, do you guys enjoy a beach day i feel like you either you either do or you don't i don't know no i'm i'm i'm born from here and i hate the beach interesting it's weird it's fucking weird i don't like it's i have to drive too far from where i live and then like when you go when it's hot everybody's at the fucking beach yeah yeah and then or then or you gotta know a spot and then you gotta drive even further or whatever like when you go, when it's hot, everybody's at the fucking beach. Yeah. Yeah.

And then, or, or you got to know a spot and then you got to drive even further or whatever. And I don't really mind crowds or anything like that, but like, it's just the, like the other thing is if the water is a little cold, like I'm, you know, look, I'm, if I'm uncomfortable, I don't, I can, I'll give up quickly. I'll be like my gas reflex kicked in. It was so cold when I put my foot in. I'm off this shit. It's too extreme.

It's like your options are get cooked or reenter the ice age. I don't like the option. I couldn't. It was the Pacific Ocean. First of all, wants to kill us. Second of all, it's too damn cold. Those are my top two issues with the Pacific Ocean. Pacific Ocean, first of all, wants to kill us. Second of all, it's too damn cold. Those are my top two issues with the Pacific Ocean. Pacific Ocean, way too cold.

Way too cold. Near the equator, though. It's warmer by the equator. There were surfers at the beach, and I usually don't agree with surfers' politics. So I was like, can't get too close to those surfers. They might try to turn me into a libertarian. Except for Aaron Darling, who's running for city council. Quick plug for aaron

darling running for city city council who is a surfer from venice but also a civil rights lawyer uh if you live on the west side vote for him for city council anyway i can see i can already see people in my dms being like i'm a socialist surfer you don't you know i'm like i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure i'm sure there are the ones i've met aligned with. There's a surprising number of surf punk dudes I've seen wearing MAGA hats. Which is one. But just that one is surprising. And that means everyone. But my thing with the beach is the second I leave fucking LA County, I'm like, what's this beach?

I love this fucking beach. I'll go to Ventura. I'm fucking loving it. I'm like in San Diego. I'm like, what the fuck is this problem? San I'll go to Ventura. I'm fucking loving it. I'm like in San Diego. I'm like, what the fuck is this problem? San Diego's supposed to be good. We went to... Like Santa Barbara.

I think if it's recontextualized suddenly, I'm like all in. It feels more like, oh yeah, we're going to this other beach rather than I'm driving to Zuma. I think the beach itself is overrated, but I like the process of going to the beach i like the ride there i like stopping at the grocery store to get some snacks before it like has a nice nostalgic

feeling yesterday i was i almost got a ham sandwich before going to the beach and then people were like that's disgusting i was like oh i guess that that's just how i did it when i was a kid i would get a ham sandwich i think the ham sandwich is a great beach sandwich. That's so funny. Thank you. Withstand high, low temperature. Works hot or cold. It's good.

Okay. I mean to say, so your whole take is the beach, no matter what, across the board is over. There's no context in which you like a beach or you have the same relationship, no matter what beach. I guess I don't like i've been it's not that i haven't enjoyed the beach like i just like every i it's it's never it's never what i want it to be every time i'm like i'm gonna go swimming every time i'm like i'm gonna read more than three sentences of a book every time i'm like i'm gonna have a conversation that that that i feel like yeah that that went well right yeah that would well but the whole genre of books for reading at the beach that they call it beach reads and

i've never heard of that never like gotten would you say thank you for clarifying that they call it beach reads and yeah i've never gotten more than like three, four pages done at the beach. It's, it's bad. I don't know. There's something about, yeah. Yeah. I brought a book. I gave, I read the synopsis to four different people and I read three sentences of it. They're like, Oh, what book did you bring? Like, well, I don't really know. It's called priest daddy. I think her priest is a daddy in the book. And then, you know, like a new person came and I was like, yeah, this is, don't really know. It's called Priest Daddy. I think her priest is a daddy in the book. And then, you know, like a new person came. I was like, yeah, this is Priest Daddy. Oh, this? Priest Daddy.

Yeah. Everyone, the company was wonderful. I feel like conversationally, I was really operating from just describing the synopsis of a book I had not read yet over and over. Being like, I'm cold. This port cold this porta potties door keeps flying open oh were you in a porta potty the whole time yeah that's where we were it was at your problem I don't like it yeah and now that I'm hearing that that makes sense yeah yeah what is something you think is underrated this is a little bit general, but cream cheese on things you wouldn't expect cream cheese to be on. I think that much like,

I don't know. I mean, I feel like there, there, there's certain people who have come around to like mayonnaise on fries, for example, things that like are not, I don't know,

like not things that we were culturally raised with that are all of a sudden like, Hey, what, what is, what in my brain is telling me that two things that taste good together wouldn't taste good together. I had a hot dog in Portland, Oregon a couple of months ago that had cream cheese on it, like used as if it was butter on the inside of a toasted bun. And it was unbelievable. And I think about it every single day. And when I described it to others, they were like cream cheese on a what?

And it's like, it's cream cheese on bread. That's famous. Cream cheese, bread and meat. Also, you're having not heard of this is a problem yeah right yeah but that is that is great cream cheese on i i i love a good great hot dog bun based

culinary creation that is the extent of my culinary adventure so the bun is the most important part the bun oh yeah wait do you guys have favorite la hot dogs i don't know if we've ever had this discussion locally oh wow i'm not like a connoisseur i'm like a i like a good boiled street hot dog like yes yeah that's kind of my thing like i like a hot dog at the like at a ball game or uh you know so like that that's kind of my genre i don't love a like fried hot dog like i don't like pinks pinks is gross to me pinks is gross and they love cops yes yeah down with pinks i mean i think yeah i'll always love a nice street dog wrapped in bacon. That is the DNA of LA in terms of our street food.

And then Carnies. I got to hold it down for Carnies. Carnies is great. That's my local valley train-based hot dog place. Then there was Papoose. That Papoose that used to be in Burbank, that spot was fucking legendary. And then it was a distressed property and then became an umami burger and then I don't know what they did with it

but they still Papoose P-A-P-O-O-S in Burbank on Riverside yeah that was like a legendary spot but yeah I'm all I'm really like to do what I like to do is try and get yeah just like a nice greasy bacon wrapped hot dog with a lot of chilies on it.

Hell yeah. Yeah. And mustard. Oh, one thing I will say, you know, what is good with cream cheese in Japan? And I think I may have mentioned this like maybe like a long time ago, but dried kelp. It's called kombu in Japanese. Like dried salt, salted seaweed. Like you'll this is kind of like a like kind of a bar snack that sometimes like if you go to a bar like someone might make

for you but they'll cut little bits of kombu and put it on like top of cream cheese and you eat that together and the the hyper saltiness of the kombu mixed with the creaminess of the cream cheese. Oh my God. Wow. How are you holding that? Is it by the, is it like a thing you eat with a spoon or are you eating it by the seaweed? You could. I mean, like it's meant to just be kind of like you nibble at it.

You know what I mean? You're not just going to eat a block of the cream cheese, but I was drunk, so I was eating. I mean, but also don't rule that out. That sounds so good. Oh my God. I think, but you're onto something because I, we, I think in our minds are like, it's a breakfast thing. And you're like, no dude, it's like 30 seconds to go on butter, whatever we call it. Yeah. Yeah. That's my LA hot dog recommendations for those getting la hot dogs obviously street

dogs number one you can't go wrong it's not possible there's also a pop-up called comfy pup that's downtown every week so good they do midwestern style hot dogs they're great what's midwestern style midwestern styles like they do chicago dogs which i'm not a big fan of but the way comfy pup does them is actually good and then they do like other stuff that's like, they do Chicago dogs, which I'm not a big fan of, but the way Comfy Pop does them is actually good. They do other stuff that's like specialty dogs. They get it a little experimental over there. I like it. I found them on accident when I was

on a date. There was a hot dog place. I'm like, I can't eat a hot dog on a date, but then it turned out, guess what? I could. And I did. Sometimes we surprise ourselves, you know? Dear diary, he was also a glizzy goblin. And in that moment, we were infinite.

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And we're back. And yeah, it's fun to watch the continued unraveling of Trump. It's like a self-unraveling thing. He seems to just be on one, I believe is the technical term. The shorty say. And just losing his mind on Payless Twitter, on Truth Social. A lot has been going. So yesterday we were talking about how the DOJ was like,

look at this box of shit Trump had. And it was like the freakiest box of top secret documents. Like, and you're like, oh, those look like you'd be in trouble if you had those. So the entirety of like the primetime news blocks on Fox and elsewhere were devoted to talking about this photo and the way they were sort of the discourse around it was like if anyone else looking at it was like the doj was like here's the contents of this box click photo and that's to show you that that's what it was but for them they're sort of they're sort of like they're trying to i guess the way

the fox pundits and maga people are framing is like as if the doj was coming out with these photos being like oh my god can you believe trump just had these documents on his hangers carpet like that who does that has a messy office and like they really try to be like his lawyers and everybody they were trying to spin it into this like the doj is framing trump to make it look like he just had these documents all over the floor and he's that reckless or something like that. I'm just going to play this clip because there's yeah, this takes a few evolutions. So this is one of his lawyers from TV, Alina Haba, who is just going to be like, I've seen that office like it doesn't look like that. Notice

how it's never about like, you know, how did they get there? Is it bad to have it? It's just like, he's not that sloppy. He's not that sloppy. That is not the way his office looks. Anybody that knows President Trump's office, he has guests frequently there. It is. It's just a joke.

They literally must have gone in and taken out documents they wanted or cover letters as it is and put it about so that the public believes that this is top secret documents that were on his floor. It's ridiculous. They're like, on his floor? So unfair. Oh my God. It's so weird to like, make an intimacy with the president's floor. Like, no,

I've been on that floor. I actually, uh, got down and snitched it just because it was such a fucking honor to be in there. And, uh, that is not the floor I sniffed.

So not at all. Not at all. And start with them saying that these were planted. Now they're like, they took them out. And so first of all, they're like they took them out and so first of all they're acknowledging they took them out but then just being like and on the floor well they still they still not my president they are still keeping the ember alive of it could have

been that they might not have he might not have actually had those right because they are walking a tightrope which is when his lawyer signed a fucking like certification over being like yes we no longer have like we no longer have any classified documents here they have all been handed over like they have all been returned so like all along with this right i think that tack of being like they're just trying to make it seem like he's sloppy i think because it still aligns with like the the take that they're trying to also get people to like glom onto which is like the fbi is planting evidence which no one cares about but sadly it is the one thing that could actually be argued on a historical basis right there's just they happen to be they do do that i mean like yeah you do but y'all are gonna have to start talking about

you know civil rights leaders as part of that dude i don't know if you want to go down that road it sucks to yeah it's like so hard to have conversations about this because it's like well i please i don't think that i'm like standing the fbi like you know like yeah uh it's i didn't know about pay less twitter this is a really unfortunate thing to to learn about thank you so much social with his read true thing and his truths remember no oh you've been really taking care of yourself that's okay allow me to bring you down i think i've protected myself yeah i know ruin my life i need to know because right because trump was inciting people on twitter for on january 6 he was booted off twitter well i knew

i knew this whole thing was like i'm making making my own. So Trump was the president, Jamie. Hold on. No, Bill Clinton's the president. The sax guy. So Trump, put all his money into Truth Social.

It's been a disaster. The launch has been terrible, but he's finally just on it now that he's in trouble. And he's just the, like earlier this week, it was all QAnon shit posts and stuff that he's like fully gone Q on there and saying all like sharing all kinds of nonsense. So on Thursday or Wednesday, I think. No, Thursday.

No. Yes, Thursday. He got on there because shit be obviously the night before everyone's like, yeah, man, he's just trying to the FBI is trying to make him look bad. Like he keeps this stuff on the ground. He goes on his own fucking truther account or whatever. And he tweets this shit. Quote, there seems to be confusion as to the quote picture where documents were sloppily thrown on the floor and then released photographically for the world to see as if that's what the

FBI found when they broke into my home. Wrong. They took them out of cartons and spread them around on the carpet, making it look like a big quote, find for them. They dropped them. Not me. Very deceiving.

And remember, we could have no representative, including lawyers present during the raid. They were there. They were told to wait outside. So he's basically saying like, nah, man,

those secret documents that I had, those shits were in boxes. Like, so you're like, hold on, sir. So wait, okay. So now, you know that you had those shits were in boxes like so you're like hold on sir so wait okay so now you know that you had classified documents because before you're like this shit these shits ain't classified and i don't even know what's here also you know where you knew where they were kept because you're you're referring to this card also i thought you handed all of them over to the fucking feds and these were were planted? I mean, this feels characteristically sloppy,

but holy shit. Yeah. He's never sloppy. His own ego was like, let me clear something up. When I abscond with top secret documents, I keep them in fucking boxes at a bare minimum. It's clean. They're not dirty. There's so many

pictures of him also with like the messiest desk i've ever seen like isn't that like when he was running like remember when he was running yeah and he's like licking my taco bowl and like there's a bunch of bills piled up like all over the corners of the desk yeah just like fucking social security numbers like they're not the most careful criminal organization of all time no and you know it pisses me off i hate that white people get to be so fucking sloppy with their crimes yeah you know i mean like this is slops like yeah like only whiteness would allow you to think that this is how you break the law other people they do a lot to cover up their crimes when it's like

some other criminal enterprise there's like some real heists going on. This is... This guy's being like, they're in cartons that I have. These things could reveal the locations of spy satellite programs and stuff and I'm like, they're in my desk.

Well, that's like the... Oh, God. I mean, it's like he's... And that's historically true of him too. He's like he's and that's like historically true of him too like he's bad at everything including being a criminal yeah it just helps to be a hundred millionaire by the time you're seven years old then you're like you can get away with just being really good at being bad at shit but yeah on the fox news front i do think it's interesting that they seem to be keeping so many possibilities like open so that they can say i told you so when things kind of resolve or they

want to be like yeah that's bad in case it is bad they're like yeah we knew it was bad and other times like yeah he should have gotten off yeah love us again donald but it more and more like they are kind of like i don't what the fuck do you want us to say like it's only like people like hannity at this point who are willing to be like and they planted that right because i'm also implicate if he goes down i'm fucked too yeah but also just in true white privilege fashion uh that same lawyer of his that we heard earlier she went on like charlie kirk's podcast and was doing this thing of like basically like complaining that the laws are too fucking dumb to apply to trump so like why don't they just fucking relax already it's like the energy and i just want to hear how i want you to hear how she tries to make this be like this is just

nonsense man like they're just going after him over freaking joke stuff girl boss girl boss and they say themselves in these papers that they filed that this is under the presidential records act so what they did was to try and criminalize donald trump as they always do they found these three mundane statues espionage and the two others obstruction and they're trying to claim that there was some sort of criminal activity but their papers say it's under the presidential records act so your admission is the power that we've all been saying he does have so you can it's like it sounds like a 16 year old like trying to debate their parents like as to why they can drive the car drunk right it's like and actually that goes against your earlier statement that you made,

that drinking is okay in moderation. Therefore, I should be allowed to combine both privileges, borrowing dad's car, drinking alcohol, into one singular experience. And you're just trying to criminalize him. So you admit he was the president. Exactly. Exactly. Interesting.

That is some like galaxy brain child of divorce logic where you're like, actually, you're a bit of a hypocrite and therefore I should get to do whatever I want. Seriously. Her use of the word mundane is going to stick with me. Two words before saying the word espionage. Mundane things. You know, espionage to others. Right. And also just like so,

it's like this crime is a lot of things. I would not use boring to describe one of them. Like, it's just weird. Yeah. President stealing top secret documents that could get tons of people killed is a dime a dozen you know that's happening right now as we speak it's so mundane some president somewhere is stealing classified documents my honor my client is fucking not guilty please counsel what

i say about your language sorry my honor my client is not effing guilty. Okay. Because like these charges are like, I'm sorry. Effing mundane. Right. What? Do you mind if I use the word frick? Okay. What the frick is going on here? In the baboo-ian sense of the word. Not the baboo-ian sense of the word. Not the Baboo-ian sense.

Of Frick, okay. If I may. And part of my French Frick. In the Baboo-ian tradition of the word. Oh, God. Okay. Yeah. You know,

I hate that I know all this now yeah well also the seas like we we talked about his passports being seized we were like oh are they like trying to prevent him from running fleeing to another country and now people are thinking it might be because he just had his passports on top of like all the most damning secret documents and like the like he just like to like put his fingerprints on them like i don't know like it's just the most people are like that's actually very bad that he had something that he needs access to and probably like personally controls the whereabouts of that like that was in the same drawer with the bad stuff that he wants to claim he had no knowledge of hard to think of more damning evidence yeah it's like you can't you can't tie me to these documents they

were in your big desk drawer with your passport like they were they were inside of your passport as if you would put them in like a bookmark for your passport. Like when I grab this, it's going to be one thing I'm taking off with. You'd have to be a fool to do something like that. This is so mundane, your honor. Like they're trying to act. Oh, your honor. So mundane. All right.

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That's one breath. That's one breath. Thank you. Holy shit. I have a nosebleed. Wow. And thank you. Holy shit. I have a nosebleed. Wow. And that's exactly what I wanted. Like 11 from fucking Stranger Things.

Oh my God. More blood's coming out of both nostrils. Something bad's about to happen. What's a dead, like, do you assume it's the person's in more trouble if they have a nose bleed after something weird, like, supernaturally happens, or an ear bleed? I feel like ear bleed is freaky. Well, ear bleed. An ear bleed feels personal. Yes.

Is that more brain? Yeah, that feels like you're dead or you're, like, going to not be well after this. I do feel like maybe the nose is a direct pipeline to the brain as well. So, I don't know. And you always say that. That's, you've always said, fuck the like maybe the nose is a direct pipeline to the brain as well so i don't know you always say that that's you you've always said the uh brain to nose pipeline fuck the eyes fuck the eyes the nose is a direct pipeline to the soul anna it's it's wonderful to have you back we kind of have unofficial streaming corners whenever you tell us to watch something and we actually do it. But this one demanded on mic for all the world to see the rehearsal. Did you watch it?

Yes, of course. Are you kidding? I was always the first person to watch it because I watched it exactly 8 p.m. on the dock Friday nights PST when it dropped at 11 p.m. EST. And then I would immediately go, I am unwell to the chat. You would wait till Saturday morning. It's like, it's like, fuck it, man. It came out last night. And then you're like, did you see it?

It went even more off the rails. And I'm like, I'm about to jump in yeah yeah what a show what a show yeah nathan fielder truly i i don't know i i really like him i saw him live once i was talking about it and he did the he just pulled people up on stage that he thought looked weird and had interesting conversations with him. Like that is his, his singular skill is finding weird people and being able to just dig in with them and have interesting conversations. Well,

I guess broadly, I'm curious to everybody here. The, I feel like the, for people there, I think like there is a group of people who knew Nathan Fielder and watched it and were like, wow. Then there are people who never heard knew Nathan Fielder and watched it and were like, wow. Then there are people who never heard of Nathan Fielder and saw this like, what is wrong with this guy?

Right. Like he's monotone. He seems like he's so arrogant. And so I guess the first biggest thing is that I just want to read a criticism of the show just to get everybody's take is that people felt that he was like cruel and arrogant. I'm going to read from this New Yorker review of the show. Quote, Fielder is manifestly impressed with his own methods and his own acumen. At that moment,

barely five minutes into the first episode, I wanted to throw my laptop across the room or just to throw Nathan Fielder out of it. Not only is this not, he's talking about the time when he sends the gas company in to like, to map the guy's apartment. He said, but like his senses like start breaking down i feel like richard brody's going through something i don't know not only is the gas crew deception itself a reckless betrayal but the gaze of superiority and dominance that he casts upon core struck me as arrogant cruel and above all

indifferent yeah i saying that that five minutes in, you were angry to the point of violence, I think is revealing. I get the... That's definitely a thought that is on your mind while you're watching it. I think... I do tend to think that these portraits of these people

are really interesting. And I don't know whether it's exactly how they would want to be viewed it is the most interesting portrait of someone like angela or core or core's trivia friend that i've ever seen in art like the most like humane and i don't know it felt empathetic to me and what's, what was your response when you tell people to watch the show? Because I'm sure like anybody's like, did you watch it? And some people were like, I don't know. Well, I'm of the sort of realm of like, don't stop writing think pieces on Nathan Fielder shows.

I think you need to let go and let love, as it says on my wall, as you can see behind me. let go and let love as it says on my wall as you can see behind me um yeah but like it's i feel like every nathan fielder show is an examination of nathan's own anxiety and issues and frustrations with his own like existence that's every nathan fielder show it's just like him being like i got good grades so i think i'm good at business and you're like well you didn't but you seem to think you are so whatever go do your thing and then this is like the whole reason the rehearsal exists is because nathan is like an anxious socially awkward person which it says multiple times so he's like well i figured out how to uh rehearse every interaction which immediately is like okay dude you're a fucking weirdo and he's like so i've decided to give this great skill of mine to others which is exactly what nathan for

you was it's literally nathan for you i'm giving you this really absurd thing that i've come up with back to the people even though nobody asked for it and i think that's all it is it's not as deep as people think it is of like wow look at him destroying human like all these people it's like it's actually not these people exist right yeah nathan just started interacting with them because he himself found it interesting and it's in a way he's being like oh look i found someone who's maybe weirder than me let me talk to them because i'm curious of how they exist and you're like okay I don't in a way like think like I think all these people interesting the only person who

I literally was like I do not fuck with you was Miriam the Zionist that was the only person that I turned on the whole time and she didn't even start out as like a weirdo I gotta say no and then she pivoted and I was like oh

fuck Miriam immediately I listened to the ringer podcast about this show to like jog my memory and then i was like oh this is not good and just re-watched a couple episodes but the ringer podcast about this they bring up that episode but they're just like i loved her she like that end part where she's so glad Angela's gone, and I'm so glad Angela's gone too. And it's just like a warm celebratory. It's like she's talking about you. She kept talking after that.

Did you not get that part? Yeah. What the fuck? Yeah. I mean, look, I'm glad about, you know, go ahead. Teach people about the Jewish culture know, Jewish culture and tradition. That's fine. The second you try and pressure someone like Nathan to make their show like a political stance supporting Israel because like, you know, he has a platform.

You're going too far to be like, you need to side against Palestinian people on your show. Right. Well, those people, they were going to be bombed. That's a hot button issue, isn't it? You're like, what are you saying? That was an interesting thing because a lot of, a few Jewish news outlets

like grappled with the show in different ways. Like this one website, first they're like saying like how Judaism and Kabbalah is essential to understanding like the show. And then when the finale happened,

that same thing, it's so weird how some people absolutely do not get what he's doing they were like we really did not like the fact that he had to renounce his judaism his religion to that child in the finale and say i'm going to hell and i'm going to be burning in hell because i'm not christian and it's like i think you're missing the point entirely there like what that wasn't that he was made to do anything like that. If anything, he started like underscoring this absurdity of how children are indoctrinated where like, because most kids have no concept of what religion or if they need it for themselves.

Yeah. It's just easier to grasp this framing of like, it's us versus them. We do good. Those people burn in hell because that's like what the parent was like, the kid doesn't know about Christianity anymore. Do the talk to the kid. And he's like, okay, in kid terms, I'm bad and evil. You're going to be good. That's what you want. Right. And they're like, how could you do that? I'm like, that's, that's already attention to like how absurd it was that the mom would make that request at all.

Right. Yeah. And it felt like by the time he got to that point, he was just trying to make right by all the kids. Right. Because he then accidentally became a father figure to a child actor who didn't know any better. And he was like, oh. And child actors even. So one thing I wanted to say about the parenting thing.

And child actors even. So one thing I wanted to say about the parenting thing, like my initial response to the whole show was like, holy shit, I will never. First of all, kids are way better actors than everybody else. Adam, dude. Holy shit, man. Teenage Adam? Teen Adam.

Oh my God. Those kids were great actors. But also like it seems super immoral, but like on rewatching some of the early episodes, there's like these moments where he's asking like a mom of one of the babies like the actual like babies in a crib like can't even like pull themselves up if like she's cool if robin like gets involved as like the father figure and she's like yeah i don't know they seem to get along sure whatever like and it reminded like kids so if you're just watching one episode of like this six-year-old calling him daddy and saying i miss

daddy like it is that shit like broke my heart for sure and like made the whole thing seem super like fucked up at the same time like kids have like a favorite person that they're obsessed with for 24 hours and then just like move on to a new thing and i feel like you see that in some of the parents reactions where they're just like yeah man whatever like whatever it's like watching people who don't have kids she's like think about parenting and then and then like people who have had like multiple kids just feeling yeah man like yeah that seems great right the the part where she's like and then i would like to use i forget what what the oil was uh lavender oil and she was like okay yeah okay see if if that works give it a. And that that did kind of change how I thought about it a little bit.

Yeah, I think you see, like, especially with the child actor stuff, you you can see some parents relationships to how they even view their kids as acting. Right. Like some people might be like, yeah, dude, I take my baby to a set and they give me money. Yeah. And it's like a baby system you've commodified your child's existence just to be on camera and you see like some some of those kids were straight up child actors right who are like knew how to disengage immediately and they're like wait are we in a scene now or no and then like with that little boy remy i think he was obviously way too young to be in something that was so not a traditional acting thing. Like it wasn't on a stage with an audience or like overt production stuff.

There's like a lot of hidden camera infrastructure. But I think also the show does a good job of going so absurd that you think it's not real. And then it becomes so, so fucking real out of nowhere. Like when he keeps coming back to the set. Yeah. so fucking real out of nowhere like when he keeps coming back to the set yeah and just being like even in doing this thing like even this they're showing the mom in a way like she's trying to do her best she thought it was like a good thing but then he was sort of getting like with every subsequent trip to that house getting more invested in this idea of like nathan as his dad and how she

felt bad about it so there's like multiple commentaries happening about like just child acting or parenting that i think that's what's kind of really brilliant about the shows he says a lot of things through it's a it's absurdity yeah and i was gonna say like and he and here's the thing nathan could have hit all of that he didn't have to show how fucked up the kids like he didn't have to show any of that but he the fact that he was like and here's how i potentially fucked up a child and you're like oh god like he's like he continued to show the dark side of it all yeah regardless and i think like i would be more concerned about i would actually have had more like oh if he didn't show that and that came out later on like oh there was all these issues with the kids thinking that nathan was their father and like now you know there's you know

because i as i was watching that i was like at first i didn't know how to feel i was like oh whoa whoa whoa but then i start to be like well look he's actually trying to solve the problem he's working towards removing this child or like removing him from this child's life so the child understands he's not actually his father and that he's not going to be in his life i don't know i think those moments speak more to like what and who nathan like what nathan's trying to do than the whole like wow look at him showing making robin look a certain way i'm like robin is who he is robin's all over the internet continuing to act like robin he just like showed some light on a kind of strange figure that exists in the world

we should talk about like the individual characters and like moments right like sure robin for anybody who hasn't seen it, Robin is holy shit. Like, how do you describe Robin? I mean, again, like, to your point, Anna, like, he's Robin. There was no writer's room that came up with, I crashed my sign on TC 100 miles an hour and came to upright on miracle status. Yeah. That's Robin. You couldn't write that if you wanted to.

No. And if you did, they deserve 9,000 Emmys. Because I've never heard anything like that except from someone so themselves as fucking robin right yeah i don't i mean i i i really admire nathan as like a person like i just think it's all of his stuff is really cool and challenging and like is designed to like make us have a conversation like this and so every time he releases something and this like inevitable like series of discourse takes place it's like yeah this is like a part of the Nathan Fielder like experience because like you were saying and I

like what I really liked about this show it like was that it like I don't know like I feel like with any reality premise or project shit like like this happens. And there's all of these, like, is this ethical? Was this okay to do? But there's not shows that very intentionally call your attention to, is this ethical? Right, right. Like, as, like, bizarre and specific and, like, arguably fucked up of a premise as it is. Yeah, like, most reality shows have an absurd fucked up premise, but they want you to not think about that as hard as they can. And they go way out of their way with the production and the casting and the style to make you feel like, and this is a totally normal thing for us to be doing. We're definitely not exploiting anybody. And, like and this is a totally normal thing for us to be doing we're definitely not exploiting anybody and like this is this is cool you should feel fine about participating in this as like a consumer but that's like not what he does and i think that that is like you know whatever when it gets down to the individual level there's definitely shit to be talked about but i

like that that is like such a huge component of this show is like it's doing what a lot of shows are doing but just like not being shy about telling you exactly what you're doing and like having the person asking like is this okay i don't know i just think it's so cool yeah the discomfort is like from that honesty right because it's like it's like he's giving you an album but the behind the music is also part of the album. Right. Cause you're like, cause you're like, Oh shit,

that's what's also going on. Like it's always zooming out. It's like zooming out so much. It gets meta. It gets so meta, but that's like the honesty aspect of it. And I think that's why with like Anna, you know,

we watch a lot of reality shows and half the time I'm like, they're getting these fucking people drunk. They're telling them all kinds of shit they're they're provoked they're antagonizing them to do shit on camera or they'll straight up just manufacture interactions but you'll never know that watching most reality shows and with this one it tries to be like saying like these are kind of the stakes even just trying to even do this thing from a super zoomed out perspective. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think it touches on like a bunch of, like I was saying,

like types of people you never see anywhere else. Like, because reality TV is essentially a very specific type of person who is, you know, not, not reflective of like the type of people who actually exist in America. I think it touches on like spirituality and religion in a way that like doesn't really in a way that's like very honest

and like doesn't really get brought up it just it feels like it's like on a different level than not just reality tv but like just scripted tv as well like it's yeah covering a bunch of wild shit that is like some of the most important stuff to in people's lives, you know, in a fucked up way, but a fucked up way that like makes you think about it. I mean, I also think a lot of, you know, I don't fault Robin or Angela for having such intense sort of religious, like, you know, they're very religious people. like so you know they're very religious people but i also think they've all you know based on what they tell you if they've experienced this trauma and like individually they talk about these things they've gone through and like okay that's fine let a person be as religious as hell if it helps them survive in this world like i think there was a lot of criticism about look i'm not going to talk about angela's anti-semitism that's a whole another

just because she loves every mel gibson thing ever yeah that was like when she said apocalypto that was the funniest fuck yeah and she's like i think mel gibson is the greatest she's gonna say like anything by lenny riefenstahl yeah yeah that's the only way to escalate that yeah seriously i do think there is, you should maybe, she did release a video later being like, I understand now why that's not a thing that I shouldn't like Mel Gibson that much. I just really like the film instead.

And she kind of like tried to backtrack on it, which I was kind of like, just be aware of what you put out there in the world when you say stuff like that. But I don't fault them for having such religious views or how they live their life like people need that right so i think this series gave us a lot of moments where anna you and i were definitely texting each other like fucking just rabid animals being like what about this shit what was uh i just want to go

around what was everyone's most cringe moment like what was the moment when you saw and you could not believe what you were watching unfold on screen well it doesn't get mentioned a lot but uh it's from the i think the first episode's still my favorite because it just like stands alone so well and is rewatchable endlessly but when they have the undercover actor go to interview his trivia friend who he's afraid is going to have a violent outburst which turns out is like so unfounded uh but that's like such a funny revelation of how we like build build things up but so she has you know whatever the disorder is where like she just, can't stop herself from talking. And she's, like, supposed to be interviewing the birdwatcher lady.

But, like, they just have this montage of, like, her just, like, talking endlessly about herself. And at one point, she's, like, the fifth thing after she's, like, talked about her family and stuff. And she's supposed to be interviewing this other person for a story. She's, like, and I have, like, various travel rewards plans and including go-go in flight in flight yeah that was the moment that just she's like yeah right there yeah chick in the city? Chew chick in the city. I hope that did drive some traffic to her site. I hope so, too. Yeah.

I think that one of the, I mean, the one that comes to mind of just like Nathan having to deal with a different anti-Semitic person in the series was the guy at the Raising Cane's. Oh, yeah. In that moment where he, like, says something, like, mask off anti-Semitic. Nathan, like, tries to interfere. And then the guy is like, well, but that is something that I would say to my brother and he would agree with me. And then Nathan's like, oh, well, I guess if that's what you would say like it was just yeah it's like uh and then makes a note like anti-semitic turn like oh my god yeah that was that was a that was a brutal moment that storyline i feel like is one

of the less discussed ones yeah that one was such a side that episode was wild because that guy had a full-on like emotional reckoning with himself like through this actor who was supposed to be his brother which i could not believe how powerful that moment was yeah or how absurd the whole situation like he started crying to this this fucking effigy of his brother and i'm like oh my god like what is nathan facilitating here and the fact that it worked that well is crazy but for me it was when he went to go help that old man dig up the treasure and helped him take a shit i could that's when i was like this is you're really you're you're layering so much on top of it to try and get this response out of the guy then cut to i didn't realize that guy who played the grandpa he was a former undercover

atf agent who would regularly go undercover so he was like built already to like be like hey man like i know what part i need to play for you that was a little note i did not realize because he felt upset that the show didn't help promote his book that he had just written. That's actually really interesting. I did not know that. I had no idea. Yeah, that blew my mind. Apologies to Anna's thing about the nose to the brain

being the pathway to the brain. I feel like there was a similarity in the eyes of that guy and Angela. The way they would close kind of close their eyes while talking and like working through stuff that was interesting.

I wonder if that's like one of the things Nathan goes, goes or looks for. I mean, so much going on on the show. What was your favorite moment, Anna? Or most freaked out moment? Yeah.

I mean, almost every moment. But I think the most legendary moment on this show was adam's overdose that shook me to my core i just didn't see it coming i wasn't ready for i was not ready for nathan's reaction to it where i was like oh my god nathan is acting i don't know what happened yeah i was like what is that and then the way that it affected nathan where he's like i can't raise a teenager this is too much and i'm like you set up the overdose like what is happening i loved that transition after he decides i can't have a teenager and the kid comes down the slide and then you see the teenager be like all right so are we uh are we done crawls back out of the yeah i will say that that actor

he put his all oh yeah that dinner table discussion's like wouldn't you be angry that i've been gone for like 10 years and he's like look who decided to show up and I was like oh we are in it for a wild ride. That's the kind of actor that like when I saw that I made a mental note I'm like oh that kid could be like super famous in 10 years and would have to be like

yeah I got my start playing Nathan Fielder's like overdose son. Super producer Justin. Classic. I'll put it in the comments you're a you're a fucking disaster my guy that was what his son said to him when he was trying to be like you need to listen to me you talk to us and he's like you've been gone for 10 years it's like this is you're a fucking disaster my guy the way the fucking exasperation in his voice. I'm like, this is fucking...

That's why I think I texted you and I was like, this is fucking prestige casting right now. This is prestige casting. Team Adam took the role to a whole other level. The girl who played Angela was so good. Oh, yeah. She's actually, I think... She was on This Fool. Yes, I was

going to say, I'm like, wow, she's in This Fool. She's actually, I think. She was on This Fool. Yes. I was going to say. Yeah. She's in This Fool. She might be the greatest actor of our generation. I'm like, you're killing it right now. You're killing it right now. That's wild. I did not connect that. She plays Estrada's sister, the older sister with the kids.

Right. Yeah. I would never have connected that. That's so wild. Yeah. On a run. Oh, my gosh. Yeah.

What a 2022 one of the moments that really also like brought me to life other than every minute of the show but when he enters that got that actor's bedroom after he decides to fully encompass himself in this actor's life and he enters his bedroom and it's filled with squish mellows yeah i was like this can't write this shit man but it's truly like the thing that he talks about when he's like i went to the kid's house and it was like perfect in a way that like none of our sets could have been because it was like accidentally that way like that is what is great like that's the thing you're seeing on the on this show that you don't see anywhere else like any other reality show you are seeing something that is like carefully you know even if they're doing a hometown visit on the bachelor like that

is a version of their house that has been like designed and like reformatted to look good on tv you know right yeah i do want to just touch on the the stardom for these people a lot of people were like these people are on cameos just nathan's doing i'm like no dude these are normal ass people who figured out someone will pay them many dollars just to say happy birthday the most expensive cameo you can get right now from a cast member is from angela good for 140 plus dollars then the cheapest honestly it's not just a clever name it goes to trish the dish cheap chick in the city trish the dish was so unsettling to me i wished he he had never said that. Please stop. So much about Kor was just so great.

He's like, what was that thing he would say every single time? He's like, gotta get you a little lubed up before we start doing Kor. Give you a little buzz. Give you a little buzz. What did it say? Orange juice? No pulp. No pulp.

Kor is $55. Robin on Miracle Status, $46. And then Miriam, $36. No. Miriam, get out. I just do want to play. This is when you go to Cheap Chick in the City. It's just funny because all the people have to kind of pitch you on being like, hey, man, I'm available for cameos.

So first one I just want to play is Robin, Miracle Status. When you go to his page, this is how he'll be like, hey, i'm available for cameo so first one i just want to play is uh robin miracle status when you go to his page this is how he'll be like hey man thanks for coming by this is how he's pitching you hey what's up y'all um it's robin from the rehearsal um i hope everybody's blessed out there um i'm excited to be on cameo and to give you guys shout outs and uh just positive encouragements, you know, just whatever you need. I'm at your service. And yeah, everybody stay blessed out there. All right. Yeah.

Much love. How intentional do you think it is that he's wearing a seatbelt in that video? I mean, how intentional was that video being 26 seconds long it's my question that's true oh my god you know that it's like the tarot readers that i watch on youtube where they're like and my camera just said 222 so that's gotta mean something anyways back to the cards like unfortunately robin after doing ghost church robin is a personality that I'm like, oh, I know this guy. This guy. Yeah. Christian fuckboy.

Like Jesus. I do actually have a question. And I don't know if I've been like red pilled by Robin, but you do need a license plate, right? I believe so. Yeah. Okay. The way he was like, you don't need a license plate. I was like, you don't need a license plate. And then for a while I was like, I guess you don't need a license plate. And then Zach was like,

you need a license plate. Yeah, it might have been a front license plate situation, but you definitely need at least one license plate. You need a license plate, then you could be riding dirty forever. But if you thought his was too loud, Cheap Chick in the City, Trish the Dish, she has a very, very quick one. She's not,

she's keeping it very brief. Hey, this is Trish the Dish from rehearsal. Can't wait to hear from you. Bye. Oh, I love Trish. Keeps it quick. You know what? They say she has, I think, the longest average cameo time of all the people when you ask her something. She's clocking in like two and a half minutes.

Probably because she wants to tell us what to do in the city. Oh, yeah. One of them someone said she can't stop speaking. She can't. I'd be like, hey, Trish, what's the situation with Go Go In Flight? I think someone asked, they have

previews of when she's done the first, she's like, hey, Trish the Dish, obviously, here's one of my tips. Never pay full price for a book. Go to the library or go to a book exchange. I love her. She really was hitting people with knowledge. We could honestly talk about this for uh like three more episodes but jamie i know you have to run where can people find you follow you all that

still on twitter uh hell yeah follow me at jamie loft is help instagram jamie christ superstar listen to the bechdel cast we covered the movie wild things with Princess Weeks this week. And that movie is absolutely like, I cannot communicate to you. Like it becomes so off the rails that at the end I'm like, maybe it was good. And so yeah, check that out. Listen to Ghost Church. I'm on Behind the Bastard this week

talking about Helena Blavatsatsky just a lot of a lot of podcast stuff so check it out amazing amazing having you back um thank you for agreeing to bury the hatchet with us yeah i mean look i think that i was really grateful to i hurt radio for paying for a counselor i think it did make all the difference. And they were silently on this call in case anything went down. And I did hold up my little flag at one point, but we paused. This has taken four hours to do.

We had to have a mediation session in the middle. Should we reveal that the feud between Daily Zeitgeist and Jamie will be released soon in a Ryan Murphy The Feud style show. Very Betty and

all the same actors too. I'm played by Alfred Molina in a star making turn. Watch out for that guys. Coming to FXXXX. Where can people find you, follow you? I'm at Anna Hosting on Twitter.

I'm at Selling Hosting on Instagram, where I am influencing. Can I shout out one tweet? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Amtrak this morning, or today at noon, tweeted trains. Hell yeah. Wow. At Amtrak. Amtrak at Amtrak.

Jamie, do you have a tweet that you'd like to shout out? Yes. It's a John Early tweet from yesterday that really set my blood cold. He tweeted, yeah, I think she's buckling under the pressure and it's showing in the work. And then a follow-up tweet. Oh, God. Sorry. This is supposed to be a private text.

I'm so sorry. Was it actually, though? I was curious. No, of course not. No, but it was, I was like, wow. Wow. Got my ass. Got everyone's ass in a way.

That's hilarious. Yeah, loved it. Can I shout out one more tweet? Yeah, yeah. You got another tweet? Yeah, I got another tweet. So last night, as I do a late night Twitter, I go on a scroll.

I find some of the greatest work in Internet history and then I share it to the team. And I found this edit of a TikTok. Oh, yeah. From this woman, this couple doing the 31 day intimacy challenge. We will be linking off to this in the footnotes. It is quite honestly one of the funniest edits I've seen on the internet in a long time. Someone took this TikTok of this couple talking about, of course, the intimacy challenge and what it's going through. And they edit it in a way that will shake you to your core.

It is so... For the longest time, I was like, is this real? And then I find out someone edited it to be this absurd, but go watch it. Go click it in the link in the footnotes. Watch the husband in this. Just watch the husband. Just watch the husband. And you will lose your

mind. I was shrieking last night, and I just want you guys to all watch it. I believe it's, this edit is high art in my opinion. Oh yeah. Some people don't know what to do with their hands on camera. This man doesn't know what to do with his everything on his spirit. Yeah. He's just like,

there is one cut halfway through. I almost like literally lost my bowels. It fucked me up. It was so unexpected. I lost my bowels again. I was un unexpected. Get in here, I lost my bowels again. I was unwell. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram

at Miles of Grey. Find us on Miles and Jack. I'm at Boosties. Also find me and Sophia Alexander on 420 Day Fiance. First tweet I like is from at cute as the tweeted pre-come me y'all wet as fuck right

wait did we do that one already or did i think i said that to um before we recorded boosties oh right because i had just i was scrolling on my phone when I saw it. And then another one is from at Octopus Caveman. It's a picture of Jordan Peterson crying. And it says, there's two girls, but because of the ravages of socialism, they're forced to share just one cup. And then finally, this one is from Reuven Perlman at Reuven Perlman tweeted. I love that restaurants used to be called Dave's Diner And now they're like Dishrag and Alchemy A restaurant experience from the Firefuck group

You can find me on Twitter At Jack underscore O'Brien A tweet I've been enjoying I mean there's one I retweeted already But it's somebody My weekend as a 28 year old in Chicago That everybody needs to go watch tweet i've been enjoying i mean there's one i retweeted already but it's somebody my weekend as a 28 year old in chicago that everybody needs to go watch it made me oh yeah lose my bowels as well marg tower yeah marg how many marg towers it's actually pretty sick some tweets i've been

enjoying uh discuss film tweeted a news story sequel to nicole kidman's amc commercial is in the works and we'll take a quote very different approach Brody Gupta tweeted she's gonna fucking hate movies in this one and yeah just where could they be taking this one anyways she enters into the theater you're

in physically and you're like oh my god and then sits in a seat but then talks to the screen as if you're not there. That would be sick. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy recommend the the uh anna streaming corner intro obviously go stream the anna streaming corner uh intro put it on charting and then put the volume down so anna gets enough spins on spotify that she'll be able to get a three dollar check that's i think what is it like seven million listens for three dollars on spotify that she'll be able to get a three dollar check that's i think what is it like seven million listens for three dollars on spotify um really bad deal for the artists but if you can't get access to that check out this track by the psychedelic rock group alten gun they are a

turkish band but they're they're they're in the uh the netherlands uh coming out of the netherlands this track is called chips cola kill it c-i-p-s space k-o-l-a and then the next word is k-i-l-i-t and it's like fucking trippy like 80s electro shit but it kind of has like you know fab five freddy type like lazy woman rap from the like early new york taste like who was that was it blondie who's that one who's the woman the white woman who was like rapping back in the day blondie raps was itondie talking about Fab Five Freddy? Oh, yeah, I think so. Yeah.

Anyway, that's like the vibe of like swag. Like I'm just like, I'm kind of saying a words rap, but it's in Turkish. Anyway, check this out. Alton Gunn. Chips Cola Killer. All right. Well, The Daily Zech is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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