The Daily Zeitgeist - The Rich and Powerful Continue To Fall 11.9.17

Episode Date: November 10, 2017

In episode 25, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Barbara Gray to discuss the Steele Dossier, Louis CK's NY Times expose, the Paradise Papers, Drake's Birkin bag collection & his Harry Potter obsession, Canada's use of the "F" word, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast rebel spirit where i head back to my hometown in kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot the rebels into something everyone in the south loves the biscuits i was a lady rebel like what does that even mean it's right here in black and white and prints they lie bigger than a flag or mascot listen to rebel spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season five, episode four of the Daily Zeitgeist for November the 9th, 2017. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm joined by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray. Hello everybody just an announcement to

all the ladies I've dated please give me back my hooded sweatshirts and I know some of you have a lot of my DVD box sets of certain TV shows I can't remember which one specifically but you would be doing me a great service thank you. This is definitely the time to do that business. Yeah hey. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the co-host of Lady to Lady and the new podcast, Brittany's Instagram. Please welcome Barbara Gray. Hey. Hey. It's Barbara Gray.

The other Gray. Yes. Do you really need those DVDs, Beck? I do. Because, first of all, someone has my Deadwood season two. Oof. And I really like the show. But you have to get HBO Stream.

What are you doing? I have it, but I'm also like, I like the tangible items, too. Also, I am missing some really good hooded sweatshirts that I... Hooded sweatshirts, I can understand. I understand about those more. Okay, I can see your point with the DVDs. Yeah, I can still have the memories without the physical copies, yes. Okay, so, you know what?

Strike that. Just give me the hoodies. Seems like you're just looking for an excuse to get back into contact with some of these ladies, if I had to guess, Miles. You know, now that I have a platform. I like also assuming that they all listen to this. Right. Exactly.

That's my other thing is I'm hoping in my fantasy world, they all see how well I'm doing and now they're like, oh, I guess he deserves his hoodies back. Every successful joke, they're like, damn, let that one get away. Barbara, what's something that you have searched in the not-too-distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being?

Oh, I searched Will Ferrell plastic surgery. Oh. Wait, what? For real? Well, I think he's had it. Well, I feel like either I assume

more people have had it than they've had, or I just have a better eye for it. Right. But his eyes look real tight. He's got the eyes? He's got those tight eyes. Really?

Daddy's home too, or whatever. You're saying the poster or the... Just in general, when I see him on screen now, I'm like, I think something's happened. It's not that I begrudge him for doing it, but I think it's a little harder to be funny when you've gotten some work done as far as your expressions. But that was something I realized I searched recently. So I think that's interesting. This is two days in a row that we've been talking about Daddy's Home 2, the cultural event.

Yeah. Coming out this Friday, guys, check it out. Not. We're not paid by them. Ooh. Big not. Yeah. Woo.

What's something you think is overrated, Barbara? I think that Twitter giving 280 characters. I guess nobody likes that, so does it count as overrated? I personally think it's a terrible idea. Yeah, I don't think I've not seen one supportive tweet about it. Right. It's at least overrated in

the Twitter offices because they did a slow rollout and everyone was like, no, why are you doing this? This is pointless. And then they gave it to everyone. They were like, yeah, good idea. I don't understand why. It's like the platform's already dying.

Why would you further? Well, yeah. These are like the final desperate farts of a dying corpse. Of Twitter. It's just, I mean, as somebody who, you know you know writes jokes it's good for me to be economical with words and to force myself to do that and we don't need to see twitter's already a garbage you know place i don't need to see more from people what is something you believe to be underrated um underrated i think is uh wearing wigs all the time as far as we're taught you guys

are talking about wigs off of Off mic, yes. I think everyone should. Well, I just wore a blonde one on Halloween and I was like, why can't I just do this and not be weird? Right. But I think it would be weird if I just did that. Wait, why do you think it's weird though? Because people would act like it was, you know?

Yeah, but fuck people. You're rocking your wig for you. But if I dressed in costume every day, people would be like, what the fuck is wrong with you? Well, that's different. You said wig. Hold on. Now we're talking about a whole different thing now. Hey, wigs are cool.

If you want to rock a wig, rock a wig. I mean, a lot of people do as part of their life, but I think changing it every day would be intense. Don't say that to my mom. I think it would be cool. I think women can pull it off more than men. I think men trying to rock wigs every day. What about beard wigs?

Would you guys? Oh my god. As somebody who had to, at Cracked, evaluate tons and tons of amateur comedy sketch videos, I have a huge aversion to false mustaches and fake beards because they're

all over the place. Yeah, but that's because the fake beard game is not where it needs to be. Right. I mean, like wigs now you're like, oh, wow, I love her head of hair. Exactly. If it looked real, not if it looked like a fake sketch. Exactly. You don't want to look like that part in Jackass when like they just glued a bunch of pubes

to his face. Right. You want something real. And look, as someone who has a lot of trouble growing facial hair, shout out to my genetics. He's got a natural pube face situation. I would love to just know what a real beard felt like, you know, and just. It feels terrible.

Does it? Yeah. It looks like it would stink. It's like wearing a sweater on your face. It's just not that cool. I love them because I love like false masculinity, something that makes a guy look more masculine. So I'm into them.

You show up and the guy's like, hey, just so you know, I don't want to mislead you. This beard is fake. Because I'm honest. I'm a gentleman. Yeah, exactly. Honesty at all costs. It is the great hider of a weak chin. Yes, as Gavin McGinnis knows.

Yeah. All right. Let's get into format, guys. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether we're looking or not. There's this huge tangle of ideas and assumptions and collected, you know, assumed wisdom and beliefs that are out there kind of, you know, there's sort of a gravitational pool that collective and assumed wisdom has on our daily lives. We talk about politics, the president, news, but we also talk about movies and supermarket

tabloids. Mostly, we talk about Daddy's Home 2, at least this week. We can't get off of it. At least this week. We can't get off of it. But one thing we like to talk about is because movies have such a huge impact on this big collective gravitational tangle of ideas. We like to bust movie myths, and we like to specifically ask our guests, just based on their own experience or just, you know, what they've learned in their life? Are there any media myths out there that you think need a bust?

I mean, I told you that this one isn't a movie one. Is this OK? Yeah, yeah. Media. This is media. If you see some mythical shit happening out there, just tear it down. I think, OK, so I bruno mars perform last night at the forum and i believe that first of all good show or not good show great show incredible show i don't

think he's ever had sex and that's the myth i would like to bust right now how do you tell that from a performance well just i mean he's incredible performer something about performance but like the way he talks about sex in his songs is not i think it's like tommy was oh as far as like this is what i think romance is roses and red dresses and chocolate and the way that bruno mars talks about sex he's like champagne strawberries sex by the fireplace i'm like who fucks like no one has sex like that that's not fancy people do right fancy people and like romance novels because his other songs like Versace on the floor. What the fuck?

There are certain people. There are people who are obsessed with like relating champagne to sex. I heard Jennifer Lopez once say, and I don't know why this stuck with me. Use her Christian name, J-Lo. J-Lo. I heard her once say, great sex is like taking a bath in champagne. I was like, that sounds... So it's like weirdly uncomfortable.

It makes you sticky all over. And like counter-attacks. Well, I mean, yeah. Okay. I just think... I just get the feeling that he is an entire persona built on saying what he thinks women want to hear, especially. Right.

But it is that romance novel version of sex and stuff. Also, he has a song about like... I don't know if you guys have heard the gorilla song but it's like it goes like you and me baby making love like gorillas that's what he said crazy song yeah but in that he talks about like bang bang on your chest like a gorilla would do but i'm like well if you're having actually having sex like a gorilla you'd be doing it doggy style anyway that's my theory so it's yeah i guess so it's uh the lyrics aren't realistic.

Like, hey, I know you came home late and already had a boner in bed. And then I'm like, what's up? And then you're like, no, I'm tired. It's time for work. I got to wake up for work. And then you're like, forget it. I guess maybe that's not a sexy thing that people want to hear. Maybe I'm describing a dysfunctional relationship.

Yeah. Well, who's an artist who describes sex in a realistic way? I think The Weeknd, who I also saw at the Forum. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, if you looked at the two of them versus each other, The Weeknd definitely is actually having sex. Right. And Bruno's presenting this fake kind of, you know, glossy version of it. It's like the two kids in high school.

Like, one kid who's like, yeah, I've had sex, but with my girlfriend. She lives in Texas, and you'll never meet her. Right. But the sex is so good, we do it like gorillas. Crazy. And then the other kids just like smoking a cigarette. He's like, that's not how you fuck. Exactly.

I got to lie to my girl every night because I'm with another one. Anyway, I'm Abel. Yeah, that sounds right. All right. Let's get into our first story. The theme of today's episode is going to be that it is National Fuck the Rich and Powerful Day, it would appear. Only day. They only get a day.

Yeah. Right. Because we were, like, getting all these notifications on our phones about different people getting busted for their shenaniganery. their uh shenaniganery um but we're going to start out with uh talking about just the dossier because that's something that's been in the news for the past week or so and i think when the dossier hits people's brains it just immediately goes pp tape like they're just like dossier and they don't really know think too deeply about what else it is. Because that was the best part of it. Right. It's like the fun part of it.

One at the time, too, is like near the inauguration and then BuzzFeed puts it out. And then you're like, oh, my God. Yes. Right. Trump gets like he has to be going down. Yeah. Right. And, you know, we have no reason to believe or disbelieve that specific part of it.

But we wanted to take a look, like actually look into the intelligence in the dossier. We had our writer, Sam Rudman. Rude boy. Rude boy. Look into what the sort of general opinion in the intelligence community is about all the information in the dossier and just what's in there in general. So the things that we know to be true, the things that they had right before they had any information on those things or before we had any information on those those things are what they knew about the emails being hacked, Democratic emails being hacked, or at least emails regarding Hillary Clinton were available. Right. That was in the document. Let's see that.

There was also the other thing of like that Russia has an extensive program aimed at hacking foreign adversaries. And that was that was very clearly true. Right. Let's see. There was another thing that claimed that like Viktor Yanukovych told Putin that he could pay Paul Manafort under the table and that it would be untraceable. And then there it turns out that, you know, there were payments that were made to Manafort that basically led to his ouster from the campaign. The Manafort indictment that just came out, a lot of the details in that and the charges against Manafort seem to a crazy person who's like so in over his head and it's like bad scandal uh that there were a few things that actually did line up with the dossier this was like the other day his uh testimony right carter page yeah i

think it happened a week or two ago right yeah and it was finally uh actually made public this week so they were like so carter you sure you don't want a lawyer here? He was like, nah, you need a lawyer. I don't need a lawyer. I'm a scholar is kind of like the gist of what he said in that campaign. So, yes, I think the dossier, like when you think about it, it's a lot of raw intelligence that was gathered by this Steele guy who's like a former MI6 agent and like expert in all things Russia.

So it's all raw intelligence that's on like honestly the onus is on the intelligence community to then like actually verify a lot of these claims but it gives you a really good idea of like what spies are talking about like he's like you know because he goes around talks to other people intelligence like hey what have you heard what have you heard right and the stuff that he feels is legitimate enough he'll put in here to just sort of be like this is the word on the street it's like a snapshot of spy like twitter at that point exactly and he's like this is what's going on look i'm not i'm not telling you this is absolute truth but this is what's going on it's what people have heard yeah and we've seen sort of time and time again that a lot of things have been corroborated right then there are also

mistakes in there like there's like misspellings and like talking about different like wrongly identifying companies or people yeah they call the russian company the wrong thing i mean i think it's too bad it's like you would think they would put that through a spell check first but i guess and also like when you look at the document it's like mad mess he's like got different fonts and shit right never turn in a paper like and the other thing it did uh but so usually a intelligence report like this will have a grade next to each piece of intelligence of like how strongly – Like on the truth meter. Yeah, on the truth meter. They use truthiness, I think.

And this doesn't have any of that. It's just like kind of puts the facts out there and doesn't really give context for like how good they believe believe the sourcing is on that um yeah which is why it gives like republicans it's just sort of flawed enough that republicans say this is total trash like this is all you know supernatural chicanery one little mistake and then they can take it all right and then on the democrat side then they're looking at it and saying like well we're starting to back up a lot of these things, like not everything, but it gives you a, it gives, it gives us an interesting overarching picture of just quite how this cooperation between the Trump campaign and Russia might've gone down. Right. Another thing to mention too, is like there, the dossier did mention that Russia had been cultivating Trump for years. That's also kind of vague. Cause like we don't quite know

like how that went down i mean aside from like numerous real estate deals right so sure maybe in that sense they were cultivating but never like hey come come take you know spy class over here so we you know can make march you out there as an agent of of this yeah like we've got this p-tape on you you're gonna run for yeah right but clearly for whatever reason trump is does not ever want to say a bad thing about Russia. And I think that's what makes it all look even worse. Right. Yeah. The way they cultivate you would not be here.

Come take this Russia. How to spy Russia style class. They would just sort of do things for you and then maybe like do bad things with you. And then you're like, you know, we can blackmail. Right. And I'm like, hey, guess what? We can turn the heat up on you. Yeah. And I think on both sides, there's been this argument about like, well, this was paid for by the Clinton campaign. You know, I think Democrats are saying that it was, you know, even if it was which it was partially paid for by the Clinton campaign. It's just opposition research. And even when it was first reported, so this is this was treated like a huge bombshell a couple weeks ago when it came out that the DNC and the Clinton campaign paid for some of the election and published by BuzzFeed. They specifically said

that it was paid for by the DNC and the Clinton campaign, as well as before that it was paid for by a company that was working for one of Trump's Republican opponents. So this story that like sort of broke like a couple of weeks ago was in the very first story about the dossier. But again, it gave another reason for, you know, the GOP and Trump supporters to kind of distract from the numerous other things that are going on just to bring up, you know, their favorite boogie woman, Hillary. And just to illustrate like a detail that shows how far apart the different sides are. So Trump recently, I think, sent Mike Pompeo, the director of the CIA, to meet with a guy, right? Bill Binney. Yeah, he's like a former NSA codebreaker.

And he believes that Russia did no hacking. He's the one person in the intelligence community. He's basically at this point a, this point a glorified conspiracy theorist because nobody in the entire law enforcement community or intelligence community believes that Russia did no hacking. His theory is that it was like an inside job by the Democrats to set up Russia. Yeah. So of course Trump loves that. Right. Like, Hey CIA, go talk to that guy. Because I think in an interview,

Bill Binney said something like, yeah, he's on the search for factual evidence. Like, okay. Like as if you, you, you're the one who holds the factual evidence regarding this whole Russia

hacking thing. Right. So Benny does have a background in the intelligence community in that he left the NSA in 2000. Yeah. So, you know, it's been 17 years since he's working at Quiznos since then, but he's definitely got his one. And again, you can just tell like where this lies to because you look on like RT and like

Sputnik. They're like, oh, man, Bill Binney is a whistleblower hero. Why is the mainstream media trying to smear him? Right. Well, he has a opinion that is not in line with like the facts so yeah and it's a little concerning that are that the head of the cia is going to go meet with somebody like that right but again mike pompeo loves trump so yeah and the only other thing we haven't covered is that uh that the report gets wrong is that they said that Michael Cohen, Trump's lawyer,

was in Prague doing some shady thing. And if you look at Cohen's passports, he was only in Europe last year to go to Italy with his family, and his passports corroborate that. And the week they say he was doing this shady thing, he was actually visiting his son in college in Southern California. And I was on that trip with him. So I can. check out a highlight reel of Michael Cohen's appearances on CNN. He's pretty amazing. But all right. So that's what the Steele dossier is. When you hear about it, you don't have to picture Trump watching prostitutes pee on the Obama's bed. You can think about these things instead. And it's up to you to get as outraged or as excited about it as you want because there's enough to say that there's a lot of truth in it and there's enough to say that there's flaws in it. But it seems like we're seeing more truth come out of it than anything.

Right. A lot of the details are being corroborated. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back after that. quick break and we'll be right back after that. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today.

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With that same age spread? Yeah, it was like between 77 and 82 or something like that. Right. So that's a tough break for... Well, what's funny is like Breitbart is trying to be like, oh, it's just kissing. What? Really? They said that?

Just kissing? They're trying to find other quotes from these people to just be like, no, just kissing. Huh. So cool, Breitbart. He was just kissing a child. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right.

Exactly. It's like, okay. So... That's what we're going... That's what's going to start happening. It's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Exactly. It's like, okay. So that's what we're going. That's what's going to start happening. That's where we're going. Well, that's. Yeah. I mean, like, how do I thought we were already hit the bottom, but somehow there's no way

we've now we're in the upside down. Yeah. We've gone beyond the bottom. We're like, no, I'm just kissing. Just kiss. Fucking terrible. And then in the sort of Hollywood post Weinstein world, we have so Kevin Spacey, as more and more people come out to just tell all the horrifying stories of shit he's been doing to young men for the last a couple decades. The movie that he was in that was really poorly timed, they released, it's called All the Money in the World. And it's the story of J. Paul Getty.

Basically, he is this famous, I think he was at one point, not only the richest man in the world, but the richest man in the history of the world like he had all all the money uh because of like some really uh just shrewd oil deals that he did and his grandson was kidnapped and the people were asking for money and he basically was like no i'm not going to give him any money because that's how cheap he was uh so the trailer comes out and it's got this like big reveal where they're like, and as J. Paul Getty, Kevin Spacey, and you see like Kevin Spacey, like in all this old man makeup, uh, they have not only have they recut that trailer, uh, so that it doesn't end on the big reveal that, wow, we look, we got Kevin Spacey for this big role. They are recasting it, even though the movie comes out in a couple of months. Kevin Spacey has been cut out of the film and they are reshooting it with who is it? Christopher Plummer. Christopher Plummer, the great. Which I guess the director originally wanted. Right.

It's by Ridley Scott. It seems like it's going to be a good movie. Director originally wanted. Right. It's by Ridley Scott. It seems like it's going to be a good movie. Big news that we've sort of been talking around here at the Daily Zeitgeist for basically the whole time the show's been on the air is that. So there are all these rumors about Louis C.K. being. Wait, the show's the articles out.

It's out. It's out. So, yeah, I mean, that's a thing that has been sort of out there among women in the comedy community for a long time. And this is not the only instance, allegedly. It's happened to a lot of women. Well, yeah, my friend Megan Keister tried to report on it. She's got, you know, a thing. Well, yeah, my friend Megan Keister tried to report on it. She's got, you know, I think she went to the JFL and tried to talk to a lot of comedians about the allegations. And she got kind of like shooed away, basically. And someone had told her, you know, that that wasn't true, the stuff that happened in Aspen. So she basically got shut down.

But, yeah, it's been talked about for a long time. Yeah. And I've definitely heard it from a lot of, you know, he's never cornered me in a room and jerked off in front of me. But I've heard it from enough like women who I trust way more than I trust. Louis C.K.'s word that it really seems like it's a problem and like a thing that he, you know, can't help himself from doing. It's so creepy because he has this movie. I love you, daddy. Coming out. We're probably not coming out anymore. We don't help himself from doing. It's so creepy because he has this movie. I love you, daddy coming out. We're probably not coming out anymore.

We don't know. Well, right before, before this news literally broke, as we were saying this, the point of that was that Louis CK's movie was going to come out and then abruptly canceled the premiere like hours before it was supposed to go because this article was about to drop. Right. His premiere was supposed to be last night and hours before the premiere, they canceled it and everyone was like, what the fuck? And the studio off the record told people it was because they heard a New York Times story was about to break that was going to, you know, tell tell this story, which has been sort of bubbling underneath the surface. And this movie is like really fucked up the way that, uh, so not only,

he talks about sort of the, uh, he addresses the Woody Allen, you know, sexual misconduct because, uh, in it, his daughter is dating a character played by John Malkovich,

who's clearly supposed to be like a Woody Allen, uh, Roman Polanski type auteur but there's also a character who corners women in a room and masturbates in front of them, right? There actually is? I didn't know that. Yeah, I believe there's a scene where it's not him, but there is a scene where

a male character does what he's being accused of. Right, so he gets to corner the audience and make them watch that. Right. Exactly. In addition to the women who had to do it. He basically snitched on himself in his own film. That makes so much sense for him, I feel like. I feel like he's going to be the type of person who's like, I'm going to get ahead of and make it it's part of my art now you know oh it's just weird i mean like as i read

through this there was another uh abby shackner said in 2003 she called louis ck to invite him to one of her shows and during the phone conversation she said she could hear him masturbating as they spoke weird uh and then another comedian rebecca cory said that while she was appearing with louis ck on a television pilot in 2005 he asked if he could masturbate in front of her she declined so yeah that seems like the rumors are real yeah and yeah there goes another one yes i guess i bet it's the weird thing is this is a thing that has been talked about a lot and we just never got to a point where enough people came out to actually confirm a lot of these like terrible things and yeah and now i'm given this climate again like they're the yo like if you're fucking around and you're you're being a sexual predator this is not the era for you right now. No, I mean, it's, yeah, it's, I'm really happy it's happening.

I mean, obviously that it didn't happen, but, you know, that guys aren't going to be able to get away with it anymore. It's huge. It's going to be a huge change for women in entertainment. And I'm really interested to see the way, like we said, how it's going to keep going. This is just the beginning, obviously. But to be believed after not to know to have the women know that they could come forward and be believed is so huge and uh i'm i'm really interested to see what goes down yeah i mean so

just to kind of explicitly talk about like there are female comics who have been warned against like talking about this right like that and been told like that will ruin your career. I think we heard from a woman, a friend of a friend who was like, you know, that she was talking about this after it happened to her. And someone came up and was like, look, if you keep telling the story, it's going to ruin your career, not his. Someone came up and was like, look, if you keep telling the story, it's going to ruin your career, not his. So, yeah. Who wants to also be to have your entire career associated with that? You know, it's right.

It's something. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even talk about. So I think I'll actually in the film, there's a character pretends to masturbate at length in front of other people. Oh, maybe it was just faking it then. Right. Not actually. But yeah. Right. As far as like the Kevin Spacey stuff goes. to masturbate at length in front of other people oh maybe he was just faking it then that's right not actually but yeah right as far as like the kevin spacey stuff goes so this is my so so cgi is obviously very powerful now if they replaced him what would happen if

like something happened where they replaced kevin spacey with a cgi version of kevin spacey does that count because it's like well the cgi robot didn't do anything right yeah it's still the face man it's still uh it's still like i mean i wouldn't want to put anyone through looking at him after knowing all the shit that he did but you know where where's that line yeah right who knows yeah i mean look yeah cg or not bro sorry you gotta go or maybe they like replaced him by like a jar jar banks character character. Right. It's completely another. Yeah. That's a robot. I mean, but that's also traumatic.

That's true. Fuck Jar Jar Binks. Don't put us through that either. So, I mean, we wanted to also connect this to the larger trend of the Paradise Papers, which is this trove of millions of millions of documents that show evidence of how huge multinational corporations are hiding their money from governments so they don't have to pay taxes, as well as individuals. It's not just multinational corporations. Madonna, I guess, is in there, the royal family. Wilbur Ross, who is secretary of commerce and a huge know, huge, wealthy Republican donor.

These papers actually connect him to a shipping company that does business with Putin. And a lot of these papers, like the Panama Papers and was the first batch of documents that's similar to this. These Paradise Papers, a lot of them show a lot of networks of shady money that all traces back to putin because as we've discussed on the podcast before putin is the richest guy in the world uh he just has all this money that he hides in the people around him so like he has a friend who is a classical musician who has like two billion dollars because, you know, Putin is hiding his money with him. But it's pretty astounding. I mean, so Apple has accumulated more than one hundred and twenty eight billion dollars in profits offshore and probably much more that is completely untaxed by the U.S.

And, you know, tax strategies like the ones I'm kind of pulling quotes here from a New York Times article on this tax strategies like the ones Apple used as well as Amazon, Google and Starbucks cost the governments around the world as much as two hundred and forty billion dollars a year in lost revenue, according to a 2015 estimate by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development. And it would seem like that's probably an underestimation we're learning now. And so this is, I feel like, why it should matter to us as American citizens and, you know, anybody who lives in a country that's government is losing out on tax revenue because of these tax shelters,

because this is lost revenue that could be going towards things like infrastructure and schools. In America, the GOP, the Republicans love to talk about cutting spending. They actually love to cut spending on schools and infrastructure. And the way those things are funded are with taxes. And instead of being funded by billions of dollars of taxes that Apple should be paying, they're being funded by taxes that come out of our paychecks and purchases and properties. So I don't know. The government has to get that money somewhere, and they're not getting it from these huge corporations, essentially.

Yeah, and it's absurd, too, because you look at things like this tax plan the GOP is trying to push and saying, like, oh, yeah, like if we give these corporations more tax breaks, that'll mean it's better for you when we all know that's bullshit. That's not going to happen. Right. So the rationale for the Republican, like they want to redesign the taxes so that corporations are only taxed 20 percent instead of 35 percent. Right. And by lowering it, they're saying then they'll actually pay taxes instead of hiding the money.

But why would they do that? Because they're not paying anything close to 20 percent. They have all these laws. So that's clear. The ability for companies to hide all of their money in these different ways is the thing probably that needs to be addressed and not making it easier on corporations. the thing probably that needs to be addressed and not like making it easier on corporations. But that's not to say that in this GOP tax plan, like, you know, there is a plan to, you know, lure some of this cash back stateside through the repatriation tax, which they want to, you know, tax this money that's their profits that are coming back by

like 10% or less. And that's the hope is that once this money is back in the States, you know, they can use this to, you know, reinvest it in their business. But it seems like, you know, last time they did this, I think in 2004, a lot of companies just bought back their own stock. So it's, you know, a lot of experts don't think that it'll actually benefit the public. But again, if you believe in the idea that these corporations are very kind and, you know, loving people that they'll actually use this money and invest it back in the community. Well, who knows? And I feel like there's an underrated way this impacts society also in the fact that, like, this is a huge industry, like some of the smartest and most talented people that I know, like work in industries where they spend most of their time and energy like doing bullshit like this like

hiding people's money or moving people's money around and i feel like i don't know it's it's a shame that's how you get rich in america is not by creating anything of value but like finding ways to hide money for huge corporations or you know finding tricks with like hedge funds and markets to, yeah, to make money for people who already have a lot of money. Um, and that's holding the bag, right? Well, we wonder why,

you know, there has been a huge upswelling of like populism around the world, right? Yeah. You know, before Trump even started his run in the 2016 election, there were studies that said America is ripe for a populist outsider to come in and, you know, wreck shit. And like, you know, we got the wrong fucking

one. Well, you know, the Democrats had Bernie, you know, do have a huge unexpected impact on their primaries. And the Republicans had Trump who came in as an outsider and, you know, upset a bunch of people. And so I don't know, it's I I feel like we a lot of, you know, the anger even on the left is directed towards like these poor people and like people in the middle of the country being like you know not knowing that trump is bad for them but i mean they're people who are being victimized just like everybody else by these massive you know elites uh who you know there's this entire societal apparatus that has been set up to keep rich people rich and poor people poor.

Like, you know, this is where the Illuminati conspiracy theory comes from. It's like a fictional explanation for something that's really happening. Rich people are spending all their time and talent and education finding tricks to keep rich people rich and poor people poor. Is there anything that's going to change that? I mean, I don't even know if that's possible to stop now. I guess, I mean, this is all kind of a part of a bigger discussion, right? It's like, are we kind of seeing a change, right? So now rich and powerful predator men are having to answer for their crimes.

The tax plan is so unpopular because people are trying to realize, you know, giving tax breaks to the wealthy is not going to help us. And then the paradise papers is further demonstrating that, like, look at what we're dealing with here. And yeah, with the, some of the elections that happened on Tuesday,

I mean, you're like in Virginia, they've, they've, they crushed it. Like the Democrats crushed it. Liberal, liberal politicians made it very clear that this is somewhat of a rebuke on Trump.

And you have from the first trans woman being elected into the state legislature to, you know, like the first black mayor in Montana who's a Liberian immigrant. Like you're seeing I mean, again, you can't just say from these elections that we're going to see a complete change in the midterms or anything like that. But it's a very good indication that there is some kind of momentum. Yeah. People are actually motivated. Yeah. And also you can look at that. There are, you know, polling and demographic data that says that millennials are like wildly, completely the most socialist generation in a long time and i think that's probably because they are the first generation that has had access to all of the information like for their entire lives and so they're kind of able to see through a lot of this bullshit and you know able to see that uh happiness does not come from, you know,

collecting and accumulating more and more and more and more money. It comes from, you know, or in fact, like doing that, collecting more and more and more money just seems to be like a mental illness that like makes you just want to get more and more and more money. It's like an addiction. Yeah. And I think it makes you scared. so it makes you so scared of losing that money and so therefore ready to yeah oppress people uh and i know i see my parents generation i'm like i don't i see how stressful it is to you know own a house just all the stuff that i'm like i don't even care about that because

i just saw how it stresses you out all the time and you have all the shit you don't need so i'm like i don't even care about that because i just saw how it stresses you out all the time and you have all the shit you don't need so i'm good right yeah guys let's just uh i'm a millennial is what i'm saying i'm super definitely millennial you and you haven't finished all your avocado toast yeah yeah just waiting for this bite yeah and i think there's actually this public town hall meeting where Chance the Rapper, who I feel like is, you know, he's an artist who I like a lot, but he's also, you know, somebody who cares about the community that he came up in. Seriously. Came, like, stood up and was like, I don't know, I think we actually have a clip of his. I've been asking for money for over a year now to fund these classrooms. And on the 4th of July weekend, they announced that they're in like a cool, finessing way that they that they have ninety five million dollars or that they're proposing to build a ninety five million dollar cop academy. What else can I say?

What is y'all doing? I love that you showed up to public council i mean yeah he's pretty he's on top of it i mean his dad's involved in politics and he like if that wasn't clear he was really adamant about getting better funding for schools and the city overwhelmingly approved an agreement that would build a 95 million dollar police academy. So it's like, where's that money coming from? And again, he donated, like he puts his money where his mouth is. He donated a million dollars to Chicago public schools. So yeah, I don't know.

It just seems like, I don't think it's, you know, I think learning all this stuff can be sort of make you cynical and can kind of be a bummer. But there's also hope, first of all, that we're actually able to find this information out as kind of the the first step in the right direction. And, you know, I do think there are people who are out there trying to do the right thing. Yeah. And it's again, very, very promising. Just seeing how some of those elections turned out of like people who are not just career politicians, but people who are empathetic and stand for something are being voted into office. Even if it's a city council, even if it's being a mayor or state state legislature,

that's, it's just, it's comforting. I really guess again, it's more of like a sigh of relief after this last year. So yeah, let's just keep it up. Yeah, to have that a year later, we needed something. Give us a little bit of glimmer of hope.

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In the great white north, one of my favorite countries. Yeah. So Canada decided they're like the country's broadcasting watchdog ruled that the word fuck is so commonplace now in French speaking-speaking areas that you can say fuck on french language radio now so shout out to canada because yes i like that they're acknowledging hey language evolves some words just become so commonplace they're no longer really vulgar like they were once so you know and fuck is just fucking french right it's not is it a different word i think they're saying like that they is it spelled f-u-q-u-e i don't know if it's not is it a different word i think they're saying like that they is it spelled f-u-q-u-e i don't know if it's literally that would be funny if like they were just like

because it's not a word in french what the fuck why would it be why do we care no they were like there were complaints because like one was someone aired a clip on the radio of like madonna at one of the rallies saying like fuck donald trump i think and then saw like a green day concert where like in the coverage said fuck and they're, dude, it's not a problem. Right. So, yeah. Got it. And y'all say we don't cover world news.

Canadians are so nice. I know. Them saying fuck is just like sighing. It's not good. Well, I mean, but in Quebec, man, that's a whole other can of worms. Yeah, that's true. They are some nasty people. No, don't say that.

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Which is a little lame. Why do you need that? Yeah. Also. I don't know. It's a like it's not like a Gutenberg Bible. I think I might have had a first edition of the Harry Potter books. the Harry Potter books in Europe when I was over there, like studying over there and like had like a real,

like shitty, like beat up early copy of like a Harry Potter. Where is it now? I don't know, man. I gave it to like one of my friends over there. That was your college. That's your kid's college phone right there.

Well, I'm sure it was like beat to shit. I'm sure you want to mint one, but also like it was only, it's only like 15 years ago. Like that, that shouldn't be a thing that costs that much. I'm not sure what that even looks like.

So that's not even the big news is that he's been spending money on Birkin bags. The famous Hermes Birkin bag. Right. Very, very hard to get. Almost impossible to get. You can go to the Hermes store. No, but if you go to the Hermes store, they will be like, no, we're out. You have to know

somebody at Hermes to get one. You can't just be like, look, I'll pay three times over the price. Well, you can do that on eBay. That's what I'm saying. Because I know that's how people buy them is the secondary market where they're just super resold at a disturbing markup. I like imagining him

on eBay. His username is just Drakeup. I like imagining him on eBay. His username is just Drake. He's like scrolling. Just sweating. Just adjusting his giant glasses. Yeah, counting down to zero. And he's like, damn it, I got outbid again. I just feel like this is the lonely, whack, sort of Drake version of whenson was like buying the elephant man's bones and stuff it's just like how he's how he's going crazy and spending his money is just like one day i'm gonna

have a wife and we do yeah he's buying for his future wife yeah apparently which like you can just you can just buy bags if you like them also you don't have to say they're for your future wife it's also mad weird like if he meets her and then he's like and these are the bags that i've got for you i knew you would come one day right like yo what in any relationship if even if i dated a woman who's like and here are all these like playstation fours that i've been collecting i'm like okay what's really going on also like i want you to spend money on me now not past exactly right exactly then he'll be like we're good right because i spent like 300k on those bags so we're good you don't need anything else that is a really sad move maybe it's a setup move to be the cheapest husband ever just i think this is just a move for him being like i'm looking for a what this is like hey

everyone is he having that much trouble that he has to broadcast he's like hey you get with me like not that i'm just like a seemingly nice guy rapper drake that like i also come with this set of birkin bags yeah but i feel like that's his whole thing like his whole career is him being like hey i'm secretly a nice guy like even though i brag about like the fact that i'm having too much sex that i'm like bored by it but secretly like i lonely uh all right yeah good for you drake good on you except for the harry potter for me not into harry potter yeah corner that broken bag market drake uh barbara this has been a lot of fun yeah thanks for having me thank you for joining us. Where can people find you?

I'm on Twitter at Babs Gray. You can find me on there. And yeah, check out my new podcast, Brittany's Instagram. It's great. You sound really excited. It is. So tell us why Brittany's Instagram is worth devoting a podcast to. Because she's basically like under house arrest.

She is not really somebody who can go out and be a normal person. So this is her direct access to the world. Like, it's her direct output. These are her messages in a bottle. These are her messages. They are memes about chocolate. They are pictures of an empty peach cobbler pan

that she ate. They are fashion shows on her veranda. Her painting stuff. It's really an amazing view into this woman's just like a direct line into the mind of someone who has is just like basically late career elvis right she's late career elvising like kind of losing touch with reality and yeah but it's very innocent and sweet and you kind of feel happy for her in a way right but there's some very bit like there's a post that we analyze that she posts a picture with Mariah Carey and she's like, you never know who you're going to meet at a dinner party.

And then it's a two picture post and the next picture is a very bad picture of her steak dinner. So she just has no concept of what's going on. It's great. So we kind of break them down and we're going to go back in time and figure out when she started taking control of the Instagram account versus it being like a publicist, all that kind of stuff. That's awesome.

Uh, miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. And also today, uh, I was also on Daniel Van Kirk's podcast hindsight. Uh, we get real in depth, uh, into my, you know, past iterations of myself. So if you want to get a real glimpse into who I am as a person, check out Hindsight on podcast. Here's some more of me. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. And you can follow us at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page that is The Daily Zeitgeist. We check our posts there. So that's a good place to reach out to us. And you can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist we check our posts there so that's a good place to reach out to us uh and you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist and we have a web page dailyzeitgeist.com where we post footnotes uh not nothing miles you're not backing me up on footnotes footnotes sorry i was just thinking about something else uh Where we post links to everything we've talked about today. So you can tell that we are only making some of it up. No, we source everything that we talked about.

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