The Daily Zeitgeist - The Right Is Wrong, Whistle: Blown 9.27.19

Episode Date: September 27, 2019

In episode 483, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Mano Agapion to discuss the possible impeachment and the whistleblower complaint, Wall Street democrats threatening to vote for Trump if Elizabeth... Warren is nominated, more terrifying information about China's facial recognition technology, a replacement for the Bagel Boss fight, and more! Plus Right Wing Watch's Jared Holt calls in to discuss the right's reaction to the whistleblower complaint. FOOTNOTES:1. Whistleblower alleges Trump White House moved records onto separate network2. Trump's Ukraine call was referred to DOJ as possible crime. Barr's team shut it down3. White House Tried to ‘Lock Down’ Ukraine Call Records, Whistle-Blower Says4. Even Some Republicans Aren’t Buying This Memo Spin5. Elizabeth Warren attacks the private equity industry with new regulation proposals6. Wall Street Democratic donors warn the party: We’ll sit out, or back Trump, if you nominate Elizabeth Warren7. CHINA OFFERS FREE SUBWAY RIDES TO CITIZENS WHO REGISTER THEIR FACE WITH SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM8. DWIGHT GOODEN CELEB BOXING REF For Bagel Guy Vs. Dustin Diamond Fight9. WATCH: Mick Jenkins - Smoking Song (Feat. BadBadNotGood) [Official Audio] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was assassinated. Crooks Everywhere unearthed the plot to murder a one-woman WikiLeaks. She exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. Listen to Crooks Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever
Starting point is 00:01:28 you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 101, Episode 5 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast
Starting point is 00:02:11 where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially off the top, fuck Coke Industries, and especially right now, fuck Fox News. Eat my shit. Eat Miles' shit. It's Friday, September 27, 2019.
Starting point is 00:02:29 My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack Cherry Flavored Zyte Claw O'Brien. Courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi, man. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Thank you so much. We are also doing some name AKAs. No singing today. I have to give my vocal cords a break. What?
Starting point is 00:02:48 This is all Looney Tunes themed AKAs. Here we go. AKA Edie Gonzalez. AKA Pepe Cold Brew. AKA Yeety Bird. AKA Yosemite Fam. AKA Mr. Lola Bunny. Wow.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah. Mr. Lola Bunny. And welcome to the X-Acto crew. Again, Christy Yamaguchi-Main. Hell yeah. Yours was Christy Yamaguchi-Main. Yeah, yeah. Double header.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah. X-Acto box. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Mr. Mano Agapian. Hey, what's up, man? That's me. That's you. What's up, y'all? Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:03:29 So good to have you back. Christy Yamaguchi-Maine is a particularly great pun. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's amazing. He's on his other shit over there. Don't know his real name? Don't ever want to know it.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Never. Not gonna lie. Probably Todd. He should have it legally changed. Honestly, I would never, if I ever meet him one day, I'm sure I will, I'll just never,
Starting point is 00:03:49 I'll be like, what's up, Christy? Yeah. We'll be good like that. Yeah, I like that. Don't, what's it called at Disney? They're like,
Starting point is 00:03:56 don't like something the magic. Don't fuck up the magic. Something like that. Don't fuck the magic. Don't fuck the magic, you pervert. That is what they say at Disney, right? Yeah, there's something where they're like-
Starting point is 00:04:07 They train the Imagineers to tell you if a kid is asking too many questions. Yes. Don't fuck the magic, kid. Don't fuck the magic. Put your dick away. I think it's preserve the magic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, actually, his given name is Crispy Meme Donut.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Oh, right. Yeah, that's right. That's his handle. That's his handle. That's his handle. Well, Mono, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners what we're talking about today. It's time to blow the whistle. Blow the whistle.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Hey. We're going to talk about the whistleblower, all that shit. We're going to check in with Jared Holt from Right Wing Watch because I've been curious what's going on. How the right is dealing with this shit. How the fans are taking it. We're going to look at how
Starting point is 00:04:56 Trump is dealing with this, which I believe he threatened to have the whistleblower's source murdered. Come on. I mean, like, you know, with a wink and a nod. Did I say murdered? Right.
Starting point is 00:05:08 He didn't explicitly say murdered, so therefore, ergo, vis-a-vis, it doesn't matter. I just said maybe someone should put him in a wet t-shirt contest. Right. Because he's leaking. Right. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:05:22 That's an old gangster rap intro. Really? Yeah, never mind never mind wet t-shirt yeah because you're bleeding oh because you're bleeding i was like picturing a woman who's like lactating no no no no so confused violent gangster rap well speaking of it's kind of like i mean confronting trump but it's like asking a serial killer about their murders yeah like you're not really gonna get're not really going to get the response you're hoping for or anything that feels human. It's getting closure from an ex who does not understand you and their opinion doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:05:56 So why are you looking for it there? Exactly. It ain't coming from there. Because what other people think of you is none of your business. Thank you. It's our new self-help podcast. Speaking for not looking for it there, Elizabeth Warren has Wall Street shook.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Shook daddy. Shook ones part two. Yeah. Word up, son, word. Thank you. That sound is iconic. Yeah, it's almost like it was in the $100 bill. Hey.
Starting point is 00:06:22 We're going to ask the question, what the fuck was Trump talking about with that server when he was talking to the Ukrainian president? What was the first thing he brought up? Crowd strike. Crowd strike. What is that?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Because that is a reference to a conspiracy theory that exists in some places. If we have any time, we'll get to AOC's new plan for inequality, which seems like the sort of thing in an alternate timeline we would be able to pay attention to. We're going to talk about Chinese technology when it comes to facial recognition technology, because it is getting super mega freaky good. Begaboss is fighting Screech now. mega freaky good.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Begaboss is fighting Screech now. Lenny Dextra had to back out. But it's still being reffed by cocaine so there will be the cocaine the human embodiment of cocaine in the ring. Yes. In Dwight Gooden. Deep cut 80s reference.
Starting point is 00:07:20 But first, Mono, we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Okay. Oh, from my search history? Yes. Oh, I wrote it down. Oh, I remember what I wrote, what it was.
Starting point is 00:07:32 Rorschach is hot. Oh, in the new HBO series? No, I mean, historically, the psychologist Rorschach. Oh, shit. Herman Rorschach is fucking hot. Yes, Google Herman Rorschach, Herman Rorschach, is fucking hot. Really? Yes. Google Herman Rorschach.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Of course, the gay internet. Oh, fuck. The gay internet was like, wait a second. This old-timey person was like, and his haircut. Motherfucker looked like Brad Pitt. Yes, he does. Brad Pitt could play in a movie. And look at his haircut.
Starting point is 00:08:00 What the fuck? Why is his haircut so good? Yo, why is his hair so good? That's like 1920. I think he was born in 1880. Yeah, this is like some time travel, like time traveler hot guy shit. And everyone knows people back then fucking stunk and like they like took showers weekly. But like even his like suit, which is whack, like is like rumpled and like how a cool person would wear it.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Right. Like the collar is like. Oh, I like how someone literally compared him to Brad Pitt in Seven. Yes. Yeah. Look at that. He's hot. So I've been obsessed with it.
Starting point is 00:08:32 The whole gay internet's losing their mind. And theories are going around that he might have not even been that good. But what's the bubble episode? The bubble. Think about it like I think most psychologists are like oh yeah
Starting point is 00:08:47 like the Rorschach theory is interesting but it says nothing more than the subconscious exists he was just so hot people were like yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:08:56 yeah that's great yeah we love it we love it whatever you say the orange Gatorade chicken is my favorite orange yes from 30 Rock
Starting point is 00:09:03 my orange chicken I pour orange Gatorade on it. I'm saying the Rorschach inkblot is orange Gatorade chicken. It's the orange Gatorade chicken of Psych Test. Shit, that's a myth too right there. Right. Boom. It's a myth.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Twofer. But yeah, he's really hot. How did you learn to even have to Google him? Did something come up on Twitter and you're like, hold up up it was on instagram got it it was on instagram it was some stupid funny meme where it was like you know like looking at your like something like when you realize your grandpa might have been hot or it was like it was like um something like that and it was like uh there's people freaking out that it was rorschach himself i I was like, that's wild. Let me tell you what I see when I look in this image. Right?
Starting point is 00:09:46 A granddaddy. Well, that is a Hall of Fame search history right there. That was a great search history. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, I wrote that down too. What do I think is overrated? Oh, Succession, the TV show, HBO show. Interesting, yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I only saw the pilot to be fair, the tv show hbo show yeah i only saw the pilot to be fair but i um i'm kind of sick of stories of like over ultra privilege i think there's too much of that in tv and like uh call me by your name i famously hate um because like even though it poses as like a queer story it's mostly a story about ultra privilege right um yeah yeah. Yeah. Hyper intelligent academics. And that scene where they're like, gather around. Mother's going to tell us a story in German. It was like,
Starting point is 00:10:32 go fuck yourself. I didn't like that. So yeah, I think succession was hard for me to get into. People love it. But like for me, I'm just like, I don't need any more stories about the 1%. Right.
Starting point is 00:10:44 The first episode, I felt the same way, but everyone in this office really likes it. So I was like, fuck it. I'm going to keep watching. And then I was realizing, like, it's actually a very good critique of that world. I know at times it seems merely a story about that, but the way they've portrayed these people is so cringy. There's one character who, like, embodies the ethos of, like, the Koch brothers. Right. cringy there's one character who like embodies the ethos of like the coke brothers right who's basically like he's there's a scene where he's talking to a black man who's like dancing at a
Starting point is 00:11:09 charity event like who's stretching behind backstage and he's like this wealthy white guy and he's like hey how you doing and he's like the black dude's like all right and he's like you know a lot of people get the wrong idea about me too you know because like they just think they because of who i am they know what i'm about and the black dude's like okay still stretching and he's like you know i feel like for there to be real equality in this country you have to completely dismantle the social welfare like federal federal support systems in this country and the guy's like i gotta go but it's like that's the kind of like white wealthy person who's out here who thinks like let me actually hey black guy let me tell you what my solution is let's kneecap welfare i think that's what it is people yeah yeah it's just important to keep in mind
Starting point is 00:11:49 that every single one of these people would be saying you know i'm a democrat but right right i if if you nominate elizabeth warren or bernie sanders i'm gonna have to vote for trump yeah support him with my money right like that's who we're talking that's who we're dealing but it's funny i the thing that makes me feel like it's a little overrated, I was at a party recently, and this dude was drunk of the Caucasian persuasion. And he was like, yo, put the Succession theme song on.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Screaming for it. And I'm like, oh, I don't know about this. And then put it on, and he was like, oh, fuck. This shit's so bad. And I was like, yo, this is like trap music for the one percent bad. It's like trap music for the 1%ers. It's like what that theme
Starting point is 00:12:28 song does to people. I do have to say, I've had complicated conversations myself with, recently, a lot of white women on mixed privilege and it's always like, it always turns bad because it turns into the pain Olympics. It's like, I'm brown and queer.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yes, but I'm a white woman. And I'm like, okay, great. We're all suffering. Race to the bottom. Race to the bottom. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:51 I've had some really problematic conversations that are reminding me of this thing you're talking about. So yeah, I'll watch succession. Yeah. And I get it, but it's like anything, right?
Starting point is 00:12:59 If the most pilots aren't that great. Yeah. Typically there's only a few shows where I can be like, that pilot was good. Yeah. I agree. Shield. Typically. It's impossible. There's only a few shows where I can be like, that pilot was good. Yeah, I agree. But Shield, one of the best pilots. Really?
Starting point is 00:13:09 I'll say that every day. And sometimes the pilot's too good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's the best episode they ever did. Right, right. You keep watching like, okay, I'm done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Yeah. I thought that one was Leftovers. The pilot was fucking fire. Oh, really? The, yeah, but I mean, Walking Dead. Yeah. Controversial. Oh, well? Yeah, but I mean, Walking Dead. Yeah. Controversial.
Starting point is 00:13:26 But the pilot of Walking Dead is too good. Yeah, well, when Frank Darabont was doing it, that's when I watched it. And then when he walked, I was like, I'm good. Right. And I'm also not that into zombies. Right. Unless they're in video games. But I do feel like these movies about rich people, like Wall Street with Michael Douglas, people like they like uh wall street with michael douglas like gordon gecko became this icon of
Starting point is 00:13:47 like people who want to go onto wall street make a lot of money but like that was also supposed to be a critique of wall street so like stop giving these problematic dudes like icons that they can identify with that's where like i don't like roman yeah that character because i'm like there are people who are going to think this shit is tight. Right. And Roman's objectively a piece of shit. Right. And one of the, which Culkin brothers?
Starting point is 00:14:10 Kieran? Kieran. Yeah. Where I'm like, I can see a lot of people thinking this dude's cool when the real issue is this is actually a disgusting person. Right. So I do kind of see it. I'm also an asshole when I think about just the power structure and the people getting jobs and getting these high paying HBO jobs
Starting point is 00:14:25 are still white men and I just think that's very interesting they're like oh we're telling these stories that could only be told by a bunch of white people I think that we can poke some more holes in that or just let's fucking let's do it about a rich
Starting point is 00:14:41 family of color let's do it like there's no reason why you couldn't. That's called empire. Thank you. What is something you think is underrated? Christina Applegate. Okay. Her takes on the Emmy red carpet, purple carpet.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I think she's so good. I saw dead to me. I saw the whole, the whole, whatever was on Netflix, the first season. And I think she's so good. I think she's like, if you watch it, she's both the funniest actress and the first season. And I think she's so good. I think she's like, if you watch it, she's both the funniest actress and the best actress I've ever seen. I've never seen anyone be that good at both
Starting point is 00:15:13 so simultaneously all the time. Yeah. And I think she's kind of underrated. Yeah. I love that take. And she completely carried herself like a queen on the purple carpet. What happened on the purple carpet?
Starting point is 00:15:26 At one point, Jenny McCarthy was just not informed about it. She was like, oh, so it's your first nomination. And she was like, actually third. But told her and just handled it perfectly. And then one of the other E people was like, oh, let's say hi to your, I forget if it was like her husband. And she was like, oh, but he wouldn't be watching E. Also, when Jenny McCarthy is like, I wanted to be, I wanted to grow up to be you.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It's like, motherfucker, we're a year. That. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That is, that's deep. And she, when you really actually like her career is very it's
Starting point is 00:16:06 long and she's had such an evolution right totally one dimensionally this like sex object as kelly she was right she was good that performance but in the 90s that was just considered like you know the thing was she came on it was like or whatever yes and then like so don't's Dead. Yeah, a little bit more. Amazing. Added more depth. Oh, hell yeah. And then, you know, I'm just glad she was.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Anchorman. Yeah, Anchorman, incredible. And did she have a bout with breast cancer, too? She did. Wow. Oh, The Sweetest Thing. She was also great in. She was great in The Sweetest Thing.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Something else I'm forgetting. But in Don't Tell Mom the Baby's Dead, she really carries that movie. Absolutely. She's a leading lady. She's a leading lady at age 17. She was in Friends. What wasn't she in? I'm right on top of that, Rose. So good.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be true? Oh, okay. Here, I wrote down. Oh, okay. I'm a skeptic. I'm a paranormal skeptic who has seen a ghost. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So I guess the myth I want to bust is like, you can be a skeptic and still see crazy shit. Okay. Okay, wait, hold on now. Let's rewind that. Now tell your ghost story. Okay, here it is in a nutshell. Okay, so I was in Greece years ago,
Starting point is 00:17:22 and I was staying in my brother-in-law's house he grew up in. And it was a very humble Greek shack. It was one of those white concrete huts you see on a poster. And they only had two rooms. It was basically two rooms and a hallway. And I was staying in his old bedroom, my old brother-in-law's bedroom. So I go to sleep. I have a fit of sleep paralysis
Starting point is 00:17:47 and I see a smoky figure in the doorway who looks to be a person except their hands drag to the floor and to the point where the back of their hands touch the floor. And I'm like, oh, whatever. Like, it's a nightmare i was still terrified because i had that weird sleep house where you can't move yeah so i remember
Starting point is 00:18:10 like turning over after being able to and like i'm and remembering like i'm not i'm not moving again until it is bright out right because for whatever reason i felt scared of this thing it felt trapped between a dream and real life. It was weird. So, but the next day I wake up and I'm like, whatever, it was a dream. I don't think too much of it. My brother-in-law, who I was with at the time, he does investigate and he's like, how'd you sleep? How are you doing? And I was like, eh, I didn't sleep great. I had nightmares. nightmares he immediately goes into a dresser drawer in the room i slept in and um pulls out an old notebook of pictures he drew as a child and shows me no look out of here a picture of the dark with the knuckles on the ground smoky figure with the knuckles on the ground and he
Starting point is 00:19:01 says did you see him and i was like no he's fucking with you I would do that masterful prank you pre-make a book you pre-make a book of sketches and then you fuck with Mano while he's sleeping
Starting point is 00:19:12 and then oh you dress up I'd be like hold up hold up was it this in the book I drew this
Starting point is 00:19:18 it's a good prank if it was but see that's where my skeptic would come in cause look I would do some I mean not that I would but I might
Starting point is 00:19:24 do some shit like that. But you would need like a huge special effects budget. Yeah. Well, I'm still a skeptic because I'm like, you know, that could be explained in a number of different ways. Sure. I mean, sleep paralysis has commonalities. You know what I mean? Like even the way people envision ghosts or anxiety is similar in dreams.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like there's a way around it. For sure, for sure. But for today. But at the same time, you're like, hold up, man, that motherfucker had his knuckles on the ground. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Well, what's weird about it, what I forgot,
Starting point is 00:19:53 because it was too long, was like there was a history of weird stuff on the property because his father was a goat butcherer. So there was a history of like tortured animals on this property isn't that fucked up so and like so I
Starting point is 00:20:13 even went into it feeling uneasy or so maybe that's an element too goats are creepy very creepy and so connected to like pagan shit like them eyes I think there's a goat Very creepy. And so connected to like pagan shit. Like. Them eyes.
Starting point is 00:20:47 The vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv like whether it's like a piece of the human mind that like we don't have access to or not, like it's still miraculous. Like the human mind is miraculous. The possibility that there is an explanation but we just don't understand it is still, that's still so mysterious and interesting that like I don't necessarily feel like, you know, distinguishing between whether it's God or something else that we can understand matters all that much. Yeah, I mean, I think there are miracles all around us, especially here on Earth.
Starting point is 00:21:15 We see moments where your eyes open up and you see the magic of the planet. see the magic of the planet you know when i was in florence italy i first hand felt the presence of a god that i hadn't before so in a way i do understand maybe go star wheel was it no no no it was david's tiny dick or three feet whatever it is because he's 17 feet tall jupiter is zeus right yeah jupiter's the rom The Roman. Okay, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to take a quick break. And when we come back, we are going to blow that whistle. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who, on October 16, 2017, was murdered.
Starting point is 00:22:03 There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:22:36 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do,
Starting point is 00:23:17 like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion,
Starting point is 00:23:50 and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history.
Starting point is 00:24:02 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:24:11 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:24:27 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel
Starting point is 00:25:01 Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really in here. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to The Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And you guys, the news is coming so fast and furious. It's fast and furious. Fate of the Furious. I don't know what to do i mean i think too short knows what to do okay so the whistleblower saga continues rolling on to what the fucking ninth day of this shit or however many days it's been news has been coming an obscenely fast rate i just have to say yes the constant The constant amount of things, like, I'm just going to go, oh, okay, so the House is unanimously voting to release this material.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Right. Oh, there's a lot of shit going on. Yeah. So we're not going to be, like, reporting news to you. We're just going to be reacting to the news that we assume you already know. Right. So by the time you hear, what, it's Friday morning. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Yesterday, DNI McGuire, acting DNI, went to go testify in front of the House Intel Committee and just to terribly explain what the fuck happened. It was half like him being honorable, half him not wanting to cross the president in a really cringy way. Right. And then it was your usual shit. Republicans like, oh, I'm so sorry that you had to come down here because you're in the military for 40 years. And I will use that advantageously when I'm trying to shield you from wrongdoing to bring up your service in the military, but also do y'all really wrong when it comes to veteran care. Anyway, that's a whole other point. But thank you so much.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I know you're above. Your reputation is squeaky clean. I'm so sorry they're doing this. And then Democrats being like, okay, here are our questions. And these are the main questions, right? Because at this point, the full-blown whistleblower complaint had also been released but the timing was a little fucked because like they they got it like fucking maybe during or maybe moments before right this testimony so they couldn't really hammer down but they did
Starting point is 00:27:39 a pretty good job i think the whistleblower complaint appears to uh indicate that there was a cover-up cover-up and multiple cover-ups yes see that's the thing okay so right now we've been very focused on because of what as far as we know this call to the ukrainian president to basically say hey i got your fucking military aid to fight putin i could trash this shit if you don't play ball with me and investigate Joe Biden. So I have some dirt. Perfect. Perfect. DNI McGuire was basically saying like he said out loud he doesn't think anything that the whistleblower did was wrong.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Believed they did the right thing and the legal thing. That's an interesting point to make because that's the objective truth. And I was expecting something a little bit more obscure. But then here's the thing that we have real questions now about dni mcguire so the protocol is a whistleblower blows the whistle then thank you and then takes that to the intelligence community inspector general they vet that complaint and then it was found to be credible and urgent that goes to dni mcguire who then has seven days to give it to congress so they can how long ago was that more than seven
Starting point is 00:28:49 days a long ass time huh the problem is this motherfucker he gets the complaint and he's like oh fuck right he goes to the white hired me won't exist if i give this to congress right he's like this is about my boss so he's and it true. It's unprecedented that this is this kind of whistleblower complaint. Typically, it's about other people that intelligence officials work with. But this was new. So in his mind, this is what he says. He said, I didn't know what the fuck to do with it. That's why I went to the White House counsel first and then the DOJ because I was like, what the fuck am I? Yeah. What do I do here? am i yeah what do i do here okay like if you want to be the cynical point of view is he's a company guy who is saying like look bro this is bad y'all need to i'm just letting i'm giving you the heads up to what to do with this because if i if i follow protocol your man's fucked right um or the version if you want to be very optimistic is he was only the job for six weeks at this point right he doesn't know what the fuck is going on He gets this shit has nothing to do with his time there. Right. He's like, what the y'all what I'm dealing with this. So I don't know how to look at either way. He fucked up. Right. That's not what he was supposed
Starting point is 00:29:53 to do. So what the fuck happened there? Like, how would you take a complaint about somebody and go ask the people who are the subjects of the complaint? Right. You know, then we have other questions or that we find out through this complaint, that there were people in the White House who were taking these transcripts and moving them to a server where they typically put the most highly classified information and material. Typically, all these calls, they're broadly circulated because they need people. If you're working on a certain group within the White House that works in politics politics dealing with russia or ukraine if those interests intersect then you're going to receive that call because you need to know what direction the ship is moving so this isn't after the
Starting point is 00:30:32 whistleblower complaint this is this is part of the complaint like yo they're putting shit taking so they know something fucked up is happening yes they're taking it putting it like in a secret box somewhere right so what happened was that transcript comes out of the Ukraine call and a lot of people are like, oh, yo, was this dude for real? After that, suddenly, oh, we moved that shit to the classified server. Nobody can see it except for the maybe the 12 people or however many people saw it first. So now we're dealing with them. There's a practice within the White House to move these calls.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Who knows? We've seen how he acts with putin and other people could be fucking mbs could be fucking erdogan whatever that what the fuck now you're just punting this shit and put in this vault to protect yourself to shield yourself from accountability this is fucking terrible i mean and this is also kind of upsets me too because there have been so many other terrible things happening but i guess sadly because we don't have laws that are saying like, hey, mistreating people and like, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:27 trying to do like light genocide at the border is illegal. This is the kind of shit we have to use to like, you know, try and possibly hold them accountable. Talking some IRS Al Capone shit. Yeah. And then we also find out, so also Bill Barr's ass is on the hook too because the DOJ failed to act twice when they got two criminal referrals about this shit. They're like, nah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:31:50 About this specific instance. About this call, yes. And then the whistleblower complained. They're like, it's all good. We don't need to do nothing about it. My man is named, Trump is like, talk to Rudy Giuliani and Bill Barr. Right. Fucking all the time.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Deal with these motherfuckers to do this shit. And then also another thing happened yesterday because the news is constant. Why did Trump throw Mike Pence under the bus? Okay, so I had missed this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:14 Amid all the other news. Me too. What happened? Educate me. During his fucking three hour jazz solo at the UN General Assembly he literally goes
Starting point is 00:32:23 I think you should ask for Vice President Pence's conversation because he had a couple of conversations also. What? And then he goes, I could save you a lot of time. They were all perfect. Nothing was mentioned of any importer
Starting point is 00:32:34 other than congratulations. My man. Right. This is the shit when it gets messy. You know, when kids get in trouble, like in high school, you think everyone has each other's back. One person gets in trouble and they go,
Starting point is 00:32:44 I don't know, maybe you should ask them what happened too. I don't know. I'm getting in trouble. Yeah. Because, you think everyone has each other's back. One person gets in trouble. I don't know. Maybe you should ask them what happened too. I'm getting in trouble. Because they didn't do anything also. You should ask them. Even if you did, they'd be like, nothing happened. Therefore, I'm getting expelled. This is getting very Donnie Brasco.
Starting point is 00:32:59 The criminals pointing a fake finger at within the house. Yes. The end of Reservoir Dogs. the criminals pointing a fake fingers at each other. Right. Everybody's got guns pointed at each other. Yes, yes, yes. Like a Mexican standoff at the end of Reservoir Dogs. Yes. Also, I believe Trump threatened to have the whistleblower's source murdered in a meeting with diplomats yesterday whose mouths are presumably still agape.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Trump seemed to... Agape. There's a reference to your last name. Thank you. Or the church. Agape. The weirdably still agape. Trump seemed to, there's a reference to your last name. Thank you. Or the church. Agape. The weird church, Agape. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:33:28 All part of my name. Registered. Trademarked. Copyrighted. Trump seemed to imply that it's a shame he can't make certain things happen to people who are fucking up his shit. So I'm just going to read straight from the article because it's so wild. President Trump on Thursday morning told a crowd of staff from the United States mission
Starting point is 00:33:51 to the United Nations that he wants to know who provided information to a whistleblower about his phone call with the president of Ukraine saying that whoever did so was, quote, close to a spy and that, quote, in the old days, spies were dealt with differently. Quote, I want to know who's the person who gave the whistleblower the information because that's close to a spy. You know what we used to do in the old days when we were smart with spies and treason, right? We used to handle it a little differently than we do now. What the fuck? Look, this is like you getting caught cheating and your girl's like, motherfucker, you're cheating.
Starting point is 00:34:27 And then you go, who the fuck told you? How did you find out? Who told you? I should fuck them up. They spilling all my business to you. Fuck that fucking rat ass mother. Hold on. You're cheating.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Right. That's the way to redirect that shit real quick. Right. Yeah. Because he's not denying that shit real quick right yeah because it's not he's not denying that shit this is what this is what it looks like it's not that's completely untrue it's like yo man we got some rats in here yeah hold me accountable y'all believe this shit but i'm gonna call them spies call them spies yeah i mean it gives me like little brother vibes yes yeah like when you're like you're like, you're just that little brother throwing your other brother under the bus. Taking you all down with me. Basil lied though, because he told me he wouldn't tell, so he's a liar.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So let's talk about that. Here's the deal, Ma, you're all in the same conspiracy together. Yeah, it only gets, it's only like like it gets thicker and gooier and muckier every day it's so fucked up it's like like you said
Starting point is 00:35:28 I don't know what to focus on yeah I feel like I'm in a circuit city and all the TVs are playing something different
Starting point is 00:35:34 shout out to the dead brain circuit city rest in peace I think that was 2009 it finally perished rest in peace
Starting point is 00:35:40 I remember because I had a circuit city gift card that I could not use oh are you serious? Yeah, I fucked up. That's fucked up. Place of Sarah McLachlan right here.
Starting point is 00:35:48 You blew it! Where service is state of the art, my ass. That used to be the slogan, right? Welcome to Circuit City, where service is state of the art. And the whole thing was a plug? And the building plugged? Yeah! Shout out to my olds.
Starting point is 00:36:05 Somebody unplugged that shit. So, yeah, and we talked yesterday about how his approval rating seemed to be going up. We're speculating as to why that could be. Nate Silver finally started writing about his analysis. And he didn't really acknowledge even that slight blip upwards. But that has now kind of reversed itself. It seems to be going down slightly. And he yeah, we don't know yet what what the overall approval rating is going to be.
Starting point is 00:36:38 We are going to check in with. Well, we can't look at a poll, a YouGov poll that came out that said 55% of Americans support impeachment if President Trump did in fact push Ukraine to investigate Joe Biden, which in fact he did. That's 55% of Americans. America. 22% of Republicans strongly support impeachment if that's true, which is interesting. Here's what I'm scared of, though, because the people who would answer to that poll are not the same people who elected him. Yeah, no, 100 percent. I mean, again, polls are, you know, there's not people who elected him can't read. I think the real the bigger concern is that I don't know who the fuck in the Senate is going to make that vote.
Starting point is 00:37:17 There was a thing that a senator very candidly said. If the vote was secret, I got 30 motherfuckers on deck. That's fun. That's's fun that can't happen i wish it could if that's what they need to do the fucking right thing but at the same time like you you need to also stand and be counted in these moments and make make your point clear don't hide behind it you know ambiguity to do the right thing spike lee i don't think the only thing i'm scared of like i hope this works but I'm I just feel like I feel like we're it's a nightmare on Elm Street 29 29 you know what I mean like we've had so many we
Starting point is 00:37:51 know the killer comes back right and every fucking movie he really does and I mean his whole like this was a strategy releasing the transcript a lot of republicans were like what the fuck are you doing like why like you you just released a transcript of you doing a crime like that would get you impeached if you were a normal politician uh but trump and like people inside his campaign they just have this mentality that like yeah just rip it off rip off the band-aid get ahead of it like we're just admit you did the crime and because you were so open about it people like it's an active part of their strategy like they were they were watching the nancy pelosi speech announcing the impeachment and were like cheering and like happy because they
Starting point is 00:38:42 thought that it was going to backfire on the democrat they did and but that's also his bluster right his bully shit where he's like you ain't gonna fucking punch you motherfucker i'll crush you right you get smacked in your mouth and crying right and call for your mother that's typical shit yeah it's the i dare you i dare you yes and now we're and now people are starting to step to him and look at the shit he's saying look did anyone watch my brother and Me on Nickelodeon? No. I know the show, but I did not watch it. It's a pivotal episode where they're like, I know what you do.
Starting point is 00:39:09 You confront your bully and you say, hit me. And of course, it's classic sitcom gold where he says, hit me. And he gets his ass beat up. Guys, My Brother and Me was great. Okay. But there was a funny thing too is a lot of the aides, many people like Mnuchin and I feel like Pompeo, someone else told to not release the transcript. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And some aides were. And when they did it, they were like, some people instantly regretted it right after. Like, oh, wait, no. We thought maybe this was the move. It wasn't it. Right. It wasn't it. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Because, I mean, yeah, it seems kind of in keeping with them just having, you know, Trump's interpretation of that transcript is going to be totally different from everybody else's. All right. Well, we also want to check in with how the right is dealing with this overall, not just in polls, but kind of boots on the ground. What is being said on the right in terms of how they're dealing with this information? So let's check in with our man, Jared Holt from Right Wing Watch. This is somebody who his whole life's work at the moment is based on monitoring the kinds of comings and goings on the far right. So who better to give us a little peek on what they're thinking? Jared, how are you doing, man? Hey, I'm doing all right. peak on what they're thinking. Jared, how are you doing, man? Hey, I'm doing all right. I feel like I'm certainly doing a lot better than some of the president's defenders online right now. That's
Starting point is 00:40:31 for damn sure. Yeah. I mean, like in the past, I feel like with the Russia stuff, there were there were parts of the, I guess, accusations that it was easy for the conservatives to sort of maneuver around and try and act like nothing was really going on, even though it stunk like shit. This time, it seems very aggressively bad, objectively terrible. So yeah, like what's the temperature on that side of the aisle? Yeah, Miles, I think you're spot on. You know, like in the prior sort of news cycles we've had about this Russia investigation stuff, there were still enough questions that were left unanswered, that there was enough room, I think, for some of these right wing and like pro-Trump people to be able to maneuver around and try to cast at least an
Starting point is 00:41:20 amount of doubt on the whole thing that wasn't like, it was harder to disprove. But with this, we've got hard documents, we've got, you know, this whistleblower complaint. And it's, yeah, it really seems like they're backed into a corner. Sort of the main rebuttal that you're hearing is like, well, this doesn't prove anything. But I feel like there's probably a lot of people voting in the House pretty soon that would beg to differ. But are you seeing people in the comment sections, the forums that you pay attention to, who are saying, wow, this has convinced me. I was with him up to this point, but now my mind has been changed. Because I really feel like Nate Silver claimed
Starting point is 00:42:14 that reading the transcript and then looking at his Twitter feed took him back to the Yanni Laurel thing, where it was like people were just hearing completely different things. And like, you know, the LA Times today was interviewing people in different cities across the country. And there were a lot of Trump supporters who were like, you know, Trump getting elected was a revolution and the establishment was not ready for it and so they're going to do anything they can to take him down like i uh it seems like there are still people like a lot a lot of the people who have always supported him are going to find a way to keep doing that are you are you
Starting point is 00:42:59 seeing that or have you seen evidence that there is like a tiny sliver that is breaking off now and being like wow this i guess you guys were right all along yeah so i have seen there is like a sliver of the right that is starting to sort of take a step back and be like well you know what? Let's be honest. This looks pretty fucking terrible. But that sliver is among a sliver of conservatives that have been, you know, less ardent supporters of the president. Among the president's, you know, devoted base, it really is like this big allegation that, you know, this is just further proof that the deep state is working to undermine the president. And, you know, what more proof do you need than a whistleblower, you know, working inside the system with the media to destroy the president? is that because of the rhetoric and conspiracy theories and that sort of thing that come out of Fox News and out of the president's mouth and Twitter feed, that it's been going on long enough
Starting point is 00:44:15 that there's almost like a different set of reality parameters that these people are operating under, in which everything can get folded back into that, you know, general premise that's put out, which is that the government, the intelligent agencies, the media, see Trump as an insurgent and are working diligently to undermine him and discredit him. Right. Yeah. I mean, there's going to be that base. I think people keep, you know, wanting this to be Watergate. I think anyone who's recognized he's incredibly corrupt, he's probably more corrupt or at least far worse at corruption than Nixon, has had this idea that we're going to get some piece of evidence that's going to be irrefutable, but it's never going to be Watergate because if Watergate happened today, a lot of the people, first of all, wouldn't read Woodward and Bernstein,
Starting point is 00:45:19 or they would think they were doing the bidding of like a globalist slash Jewish conspiracy headed by George Soros. Like it's, we're dealing with people who are not going to go down without, hopefully not literally, but possibly literally a fight. Well, it's like,
Starting point is 00:45:38 it's like any fan base, right? Where the object of your fandom or your obsession or whatever, it becomes intertwined with your own identity and you're unable to let's like look at like woody allen fans i was gonna say mel gibson yeah anyone who is clearly like yo i'm if you look at what's out there this shit looks terrible oh my exactly but again for for people like that it's like well if i put that away then i'm putting part of myself away right and i cannot and that's a that's a jump that most people are not able to sort of
Starting point is 00:46:10 engage in that level of self-awareness so on the subconscious is saying no ain't nothing wrong here because now something's wrong with me tied up an ego it's like because once you have to once you have to uh agree that there's something bigger than yourself right people hate that all these people yeah yeah i think the liberal dream is that like through facts and logic and vigorous debate we're gonna like bring all these people out of the void but unfortunately as like cynical as it sounds i feel like people who you know want to push back against all of this stuff are just going to have to, at some point, count some people as lost causes and sort of hope that they come to their own at some point. Yeah. And I guess, I mean, there's still a portion of the conservative base that thought that Nixon
Starting point is 00:47:01 got railroaded by Watergate. So, I mean, it's not completely new. But what are you hearing from those people who are refusing to accept this reality? What are they saying they should do about this? Or are they saying that Trump's just going to figure out a way out of this? What's going on in the fan fiction that they're creating around this? Well, I mean, thankfully, I don't have to imagine it too hard because the White House yesterday sent out a set of talking points to all of its defenders that was also received by some Democrats in the House and then given out to the press. And they really have pretty much
Starting point is 00:47:45 stuck to this. You know, the first bullet point on here is the nasty daily zeitgeist is making false claims about the call. Disgusting, unfair, was never fair. No, but, you know, essentially claiming that the media got a hold or took a look or heard about this whistleblower complaint and made all these false claims of quid pro quo, that the president said nothing improper on the call. Why would he release this memo about the call if he had done something wrong? That the real scandal is the fake news about uh and that you know it's another example of the deep state destroying the country and that the whistleblower complaint was handled by the book it's uh i mean it sort of covers all the bases and we haven't seen too much imagination really expand beyond these points. Some stuff I
Starting point is 00:48:47 have seen sort of crop up today is mentions of how the U.S. government and Ukraine have this working relationship where, you know, if we're looking at criminal stuff involving Ukraine, Ukraine helps us out and vice versa. We have these relationships with a lot of governments around the world and it doesn't really like, like it doesn't really work here. You kind of have to like willfully misunderstand exactly what those agreements mean to, to sort of get on with it. But it really is, in my opinion, this concerted effort at multiple levels everywhere from fox news to fucking 4chan to try to create some sort of alternate explanation of like why this is fine it's it's that meme from years ago of that dog sitting in the house that's on fire drinking coffee saying this is fine that that is the response i mean so there were clips during the, when things looked
Starting point is 00:49:46 particularly bleak for Trump during like the Mueller investigation and news kind of trickling out about that. I've heard Alex Jones talk about how like, you know, if you tried to remove Trump from the White House, there's going to be, it's going to be bad for you because we are armed and you're not. Like, are you seeing shit like that that's like that scares you at all you know anytime these circles start talking about you know a coup against the president um it sort of brings me back to the literature i've studied and reports i've studied in my work about sovereign citizen movements and about sort of what sets them off. I, you know, can't predict the future. I certainly hope that, you know, these people don't start, you know, very
Starting point is 00:50:35 seriously considering violence in response to this. But I do think that it is not possible to rule it out as something that could happen, which is unfortunate to say. I have a weird question. In a world where he does get impeached, let's say it's even towards, you know, it gets really close to election day, he gets impeached. Would Mike Pence become the primary person on the ticket? Or what would happen in that situation where he gets impeached and election day's a couple months away or even less? Who knows? I'm not sure how that works for election stuff. But if he were to be impeached, if historical precedent is any indication, which it doesn't seem to be nowadays, but in theory, if we look at this, he would more likely resign right before, instead of going through an impeachment, if it got to that point.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And then Mike Pence would be almost immediately sworn in as president. So, yeah, it's totally unprecedented. Yeah, especially with this kind of timing too. Right, with the election coming up. So it would be, you know, they would be making it up as they went. Or if you're going off the liberal dreamscape, it's President Pelosi. Right, right. When you see all those people on Twitter who are like, can you imagine?
Starting point is 00:52:00 I'm like, no, I can't. I cannot. Yeah, yeah, it's President Pelosi folding jewel pods into universal health care. Yeah, exactly. Getting very Guillermo del Toro. Right, right. Fantasy mythical ending. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Well, thanks, Jared, for taking the time to join us and give us a look into the bleak landscape that you report on. Oh, yeah. It's always a pleasure to join the Zeitgang. Yeah. Oh, and Jared, where can people find your work? Because it's all over the place. You're available Twitter forum, podcast forum, written forum.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Oh, yeah. Hit me up on Twitter, Jared L. Holt. I've got a podcast. It's called Shitpost. And I write pretty much every day at rightwingwatch.org. Awesome, man. Thanks so much. Thanks.
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Starting point is 00:57:07 talking to some different high dollar democratic donors on wall street uh some of the big you know big money wall street people who hillary clinton got donations from back in the day and uh when was that the before time the yeah back in oh okay before when the world was when history was moving in a linear fashion right when the right, right. When the Earth was a sphere and not flat. Right, exactly. But so they've been talking to them and found that a Elizabeth Warren is the nominee, that they'll have to either sit this election out or support Donald Trump. A quote from one of these donors who wished to, he's a senior private equity executive who spoke on the condition of anonymity and fear of retribution.
Starting point is 00:58:04 That job title should be money money financial money person money financial guy I will speak on the condition of bitch assness this is the fucking wow this quote is great you're in a box because you're a democrat and you're thinking I want to help the party but she's gonna
Starting point is 00:58:20 hurt me so I'm gonna help President Trump just please keep in mind that these people are taught when they're talking about warren trying to quote hurt them they're talking about her marginally affecting their obscene unethical levels of wealth yeah they're going that's going to hurt me back an authoritarian racist in retribution for the American system coming after, you know, at most half of their tens of millions of dollars that they earned by
Starting point is 00:58:51 manipulating numbers. Yeah. It's funny how they are just like, well, it's probably not going to be Bernie. Right. So their focus now is completely on Elizabeth Warren. Cause either one of them are coming to take the biggest bite out your ass.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Right. And that's, man, this is so fucking upsetting and also let people know right to really underline what the dynamics are in this country right it's not left or right right it is fucking money versus no money right or it's hyper wealth versus people who are trying to create equitable society yes those are the dynamics. I know it gets obscured, and we add all these other layers to shit to think it's not that, but it's top versus
Starting point is 00:59:31 bottom. And these motherfuckers, they have all... That doesn't work well in a gay bar. And we need to be power bottoms. Fuck yeah! And we need to rise the fuck up. But this is the thing. It's so disgusting to me. If this is in fact the case, I hope all of these motherfuckers are named and fucking
Starting point is 00:59:48 shamed, dragged through the fucking mud because they don't give a fuck about anything except themselves. And this is why we really, really need to get behind candidates who are going to actually speak this kind of truth to power because that's really what the fucking game is. Right. And they're mad because they're like, she's about to fucking expose the game right we can't do that it's easier when you be like man we got these the tariffs are fucking people up or whatever the fuck it is yeah and not uh you know a handful of people who are just hoovering up the wealth and concentrating at
Starting point is 01:00:18 the time yes i mean the fact that they're willing to go trump over disgusting because again that shows you even the level of insulation these people have from reality. They probably don't know a single person who is probably struggling, a person of color, immigrant, LGBTQ, any marginalized group. They are so probably... The pains of these groups are so abstract to them. It doesn't matter. They're like, well, who do I put my...
Starting point is 01:00:41 Which little box do I drop my check into? Because none of these people are real to me. Or if they do, they're like, are you kidding me? Like, I treat my housekeeper really well. Right. Uh-huh. I helped her buy a house. Some –
Starting point is 01:00:52 So I'll vote for Trump. Somebody who did like an analysis of the class system in America, which we pretend doesn't exist but totally exists, was saying that people – like you know about the class level right above you and the class level below you, and then you think everything else is like fictional. Right, right, right. So like from TV. Right. So people who, you know, are in the middle class don't even realize that these people exist
Starting point is 01:01:18 because they don't come into contact with these like hyper wealthy like nightmare humans. Well, and that's the other thing because we have such like cities are segregated by not even race but by class too yeah so you know if you live in fucking beverly hills elysium is real you've never seen somebody who maybe is struggling to pay their bills and needs an extension cord from their neighbor's house to like power a coffee pot to have warm water or something like that like those that's real shit and i think this speaks to the heartlessness of this class of people and that's real shit and i think this speaks to the heartlessness of this class of people and that's why i'm like yo i'm i'm all behind taking everything from these fucking people yeah because there are too many people who have nothing yeah yeah and and
Starting point is 01:01:55 it's never been scarier uh and it's just like at this point it's either like share your one million dollars or the world's gonna blow up right. Right. You know, like shit. Yeah. What the fuck? What do you like? And I think it's just, it's never been so clear and apparent that like, they're just, you, there's not that much you can do with that much more money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Psychologists have proven that like your happiness is not elevated past a certain number of figures. Yeah, it's like $150,000 or something. Yeah. Wait, what? What $150,000 or something. Yeah. Wait, what? What do you mean? They did an analysis where it's like if you make $150,000 a year, like any increase in wealth over that, like, doesn't increase your happiness.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Oh, right. It just means the flex gets more obscene. Right, because your fundamental needs are met. And at that point, you're just, like, buying bigger Gulf streams. But that doesn't – we know as humans that it's going to make you happier just like buying bigger gulf streams like but that doesn't like we have we know as humans i need one in gold and i need one in platinum yeah right for sundays uh but yeah uh yeah it's really fucked up i wish i had a more articulate you said it's articulately but yeah it's it's fucked and again yeah to to see that kind of real i mean again
Starting point is 01:03:02 there's so many people who identify as maybe left or right or whatever but clearly it's top 1% or fuck you money is really fucking us up lately and like I think just we as humans like as mammals we're like all about self preservation and because everything is so money driven
Starting point is 01:03:20 we see that as self preservation so it's like it's easy to want to hold on to your fucking money. Even if you couldn't even spend it at a rate that made sense. Uh-huh. Yeah. It's very strange. So I think that's why humans ultimately are so driven by that.
Starting point is 01:03:39 It's really scary though. I feel like if – well, no. I was going to come up with another one of my draconian solutions to class warfare, but I'm going to think about a little more. Okay. I feel like if you want to keep your money, like you should be able,
Starting point is 01:03:49 you should have to like fight three broke people for it. I like that. I like that. And if you can get fucking like just brolic enough in the gym to fight three fucking people, then yeah, maybe you deserve to keep that money. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:01 But that, that, that, that encourages like those, uh, tech bro survivalists who are like, maybe you deserve to keep that money yeah but that that is that my new gladiator and that encourages like those uh tech bro survivalists who are like right i gotta be able to fight the three people to keep my wealth no for real they're like they're getting lasik eye surgery for to like prepare for the apocalypse because they're like well my glasses might break and they're like super armed they're buying property like on islands.
Starting point is 01:04:26 There's more rules. Yeah, yeah. You get like one weapon that was made before 1900. No weapons, just fists. No weapons. Okay, fists. And the money we make from the Coliseum goes to fund national health care. It's got to be Eastern Promises style.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Everyone's nude. Everyone's nude, yes. Just that. because then you'll get those people like well i don't want to do it's like well then that's a forfeit yeah yeah fine just take my money i don't want you to see my little dick the purge is seeming more and more cool like yeah i mean but look at what happens when you have like even countries where that you have such such an imbalance between uh like economic imbalance, like wealthy people in Brazil, there's a class of people who are like,
Starting point is 01:05:07 I have to take a helicopter. Right. Because if I drive on the street, someone try and kidnap me. That's right. Yeah. I mean, it's like, well then, you know. That's what even worse economic inequality looks like.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Yeah. When someone sees somebody in a Benz and goes, that's my paycheck. Right. Like I'm going to fucking, I'll figure it out. I'll kidnap you and I'll get what I'll do what I need to do because this is where, this is what it's my paycheck. Right. I'm going to fucking, I'll figure it out. I'll kidnap you and I'll get, I'll get what, I'll do what I need to do because this is where, this is what it's come to. Well, let's talk about a society that has it all figured out, folks.
Starting point is 01:05:31 China. The Care Bears? China. Yeah, China. So the Chinese government has basically access to every one of the faces of the people who live inside their country, a picture of every one of the faces of the people who live inside their country, a picture of every one of their faces, they've ingested that into facial recognition algorithms, essentially. So they have the best facial recognition technology, period, because they just have more iterations. They have more faces.
Starting point is 01:05:57 More data. More data. the ways they're using that is they've just unveiled a 500 megapixel cloud camera system in China that they say is capable of capturing the facial details of each individual in a crowd of tens of thousands of people and immediately identifying them. Well, this is going to be weird. i just bought tickets to shanghai is weed illegal there oh yeah speaking of the purge and weed should we talk about what we learned yesterday that milwaukee used to have a weed purge oh yeah no it was anecdotal story about how there's if was it madison Yeah, that there was one city in Wisconsin
Starting point is 01:06:48 where weed was legal for a day. It sounded like a wives' tale. Yeah. But one of our engineers said he used to go to it like in the 80s. Right. Well, hey, look, Zeitgang, if you know the myth of the legal weed day in Wisconsin,
Starting point is 01:06:59 let us know because I'll go. I want that. Yeah. Okay, about faces. Right. Yeah. Do we all just start wearing V for Vendetta-style masks? Is it time? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. About faces. Right. Yeah. Do we all just start wearing V for Vendetta style masks? Like is it time?
Starting point is 01:07:09 Yeah. Or like how. Rorschach mask. I think because the hard part is right. The shit that really gets you is the certain spacings between your eyes and things that you cannot fundamentally change even with plastic surgery. Right. So, and I know at one point juggalo makeup was fucking up certain facial recognition
Starting point is 01:07:23 systems. Oh, great. But that wasn't the kind yet. Let's be Juggalos. I bet a fierce contouring job would also maybe fuck up the camera. But like aggressive. Because they're saying that's what the thing about the Juggalo makeup was doing. It was obscuring where the cheeks began.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So like it couldn't quite find those points on your face. But that was a system that isn't as refined as these other ones. It's like, no, what's the distance between your eyes and this point in your mouth or whatever? Like, you can't fucking change that shit.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Come on, we can all become drag queens. Yeah. Right. Or if you did like wild kimchi style makeup. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Tell me you're gonna find me with that. No way you're gonna find me. I can paint my face to look like a dragon. You're not gonna find me. That would be a viral video or like an ex-RuPaul's Drag Race challenge. Can your geish be so fierce
Starting point is 01:08:07 that the facial recognition system couldn't even clock you? Wait, I like, this is a good mini challenge. I love it. And then the maxi challenge is, oh, 1984, the house down. Can your fashion survive
Starting point is 01:08:20 an Orwellian future? There's also the face screen things that make you look like you're riot control police. Oh, yeah. But they're kind of fashionable in certain countries. What was Homegirl's name who gave up the goods on Sterling at the Clippers? V Stiviano.
Starting point is 01:08:40 Remember, she was rocking that mask. V Stiviano. She kind of made that a flex when it's like, ooh, controversy? Throw on the blast shield. Yeah. It's terrifying. I mean, what can we do?
Starting point is 01:08:50 What choices do we have? I mean, insist on like actual laws to kind of give us some semblance of privacy. But I think, I mean, obviously, we'll see where that goes. Democracy. Yeah. We got to save democracy. I mean, because these are all technologies
Starting point is 01:09:06 that are eventually, like, sure, this is the thing, this is the subtle creep of this kind of fascism, right? Is on one hand,
Starting point is 01:09:11 you can be like, well, this is going to help us keep we protected because we don't want wild motherfuckers out here. We can pick them out at Coucharula
Starting point is 01:09:17 when you go to the festival now. Right. Or we'll find people we find to be, you know, subversive personalities or something and we'll just swoop you up because we're like, I think you were talking shit.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Right. What were you saying again? Yeah. You know what I mean? And all of us in this room, like we fundamentally expose ourselves extra because we want to communicate. Oh, yep. Oh, I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:39 No, I mean, that was Folsom Fair. That was its own thing. But like we fundamentally want to expose ourselves because we want to connect with other people in the world. You know what I mean? Just even with simply with podcasts, you're like, I'm exposing myself because I want to connect with other people who are like-minded, which means you're out there even more. Right. It's like, oh, well, you've created a dossier for us. Yes. We love the Daily Zeitgeist, sir. I'm like, come with us.
Starting point is 01:10:03 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, not to think that this show is that important. I would love for that. That would be validation. That would be cool. If the police state nabs me up for subversive behavior. They're going to be able to use our voices. Like, we have enough on wax.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Oh, yeah. I mean, an hour-long phone conversation gives you enough on wax. This is why it's good to just say wild shit all the time. Right. Because you can be like, yo, my honor, my client says wild shit all the time. Right. Exactly. Like, exactly. Like he talked about,
Starting point is 01:10:26 he talked about rubbing broken glass on his ass in prior episodes. Yeah, I think I said that. Wow. You know, gotta keep him guessing. I hear ya. You gotta confuse him. If I'm crying wolf all the time,
Starting point is 01:10:38 you know what I mean? I like that. I mean, that's kind of Trump's strategy. Oh no. Have you been Trump this whole time? Just take off my mask. Dig it. What a reveal.
Starting point is 01:10:48 All right. Well, speaking of rubbing broken glass on your ass, let's talk real briefly about an upcoming boxing match that I would rather rub broken glass on my ass than watch. Yeah, again, in the continuing exaltation of our shittiest people, we talked about how bagel boss guy Chris Morgan was going to fight Lenny Dykstra. Lenny Dykstra pulled out because he's trying to win a bigger case with the LAPD. And they found a replacement in the form of Dustin Diamond,
Starting point is 01:11:17 a.k.a. Screech Powers, Samuel Powers, and then reffed by Dwight Gooden. For some reason. Who, I mean, hey, great Mets team. Yeah, great Mets team. One of the greatest talents of all time. Was that whole World Series side powered by cocaine? Yeah. Oh, hell yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Wow. So Dwight Gooden is from the New York Mets. Dwight Doc Gooden. Dwight Doc Gooden was a, I think he was a rookie in 86 and just like incredible fastball pitcher who was just flying okay for a lot of his rookie season i think and he's gonna kick dustin diamond's ass or he's reffing he's reffing it's just a weird added level i think they're doing that because it's such a New York thing. Like, Dwight Gooden isn't going to pull numbers
Starting point is 01:12:06 in Vegas or LA. New York, they were like weird Mets fans. They were like, hey, fuck, let's go see Doc Gooden ref this match between the guy, the shame of Suffolk County, Long Island. And then who's kicking Dustin Diamond's ass because he's surely going to die? The Bagel Boss guy. The Bagel Boss. Remember him?
Starting point is 01:12:21 From Twitter? The short guy who was like, you're not my dad or my god or my boss and he was yelling who was saying like they say I should die because I'm short on these dating apps
Starting point is 01:12:33 and people were like my man who the fuck told you that he's like all women and then this dude just bodies him that's how the video clip ends
Starting point is 01:12:40 he's like he's literally like 5'3 or something and this big dude's like yo you need to calm the fuck down like stop talking to these people crazy and he's like what are you gonna do the dude shows him what he's like you he's literally like five three or something and this big dude's like yo you need to calm the fuck down like stop talking these people crazy and he's like what are you gonna do the dude shows him what he's gonna do puts his ass on the ground and then he became like famous for being this toxic mini misogynist whoa yeah napoleon complex yeah not at all and
Starting point is 01:12:59 incel you know blaming everyone like you know i couldn't believe no one was attracted to your personality of screaming at a bagel shop because someone behind the counter snickered you don't know what but because your narcissism has put your world view like well everything's about me yeah shit well Mano
Starting point is 01:13:18 it's been a pleasure having you man yeah oh my god thanks for having me this was a lot of fun let me know what other disparaging comments I can say about Dustin Diamond because I do think he's a disgusting loser yeah that's why we're
Starting point is 01:13:29 ending right now because we do not accept that sort of shit about Dustin Diamond and they're rebooting SABTC which I added some letters to
Starting point is 01:13:37 but they're rebooting that so that'll be interesting to see how he tries to sneak his way into that well so far it's just Jesse and A.C. Slater who are confirmed.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Right, right. But we do know that Zach Morris will be the governor of California according to the weird logline stuff. Oh, I can't wait. That's so confusing. That's very confusing, but I live for Mark Paul Gosselaar. Maybe it's like a Spin City style thing. Was the mayor ever in, or the governor, or whoever the politician was, was he in the
Starting point is 01:14:06 show on Spin City? I have no idea. Oh, I don't know. Or was it just about... Isn't that funny that that was like a fun, charming job you could have was like spinning the news back in the day? Professional liar. Right?
Starting point is 01:14:18 It's back when Nazis were like... Yeah. Like silly again. Like disgusting, but we were like oh remember that and now they're fucking bad video games if you didn't want to make them supernatural exactly like uh nazis i guess right it was seen as in the past yes jesus christ okay thanks for having me where can people find you you can find me at my name on social media at mono agapian uh m-a-n-O-A-G-A-P-I-O-N. You can listen to my podcast
Starting point is 01:14:47 on HeadGum called Drag Her. I talk about RuPaul's Drag Race. It's a really good time. We're about to talk about the UK Drag Race, which I'm excited about. That's coming out. I don't know yet. I've seen some drag there. I know there's more singing in
Starting point is 01:15:03 the UK. They have more classical training. Truly. Yeah, they sing more than they drag there. I know there's more singing in the UK. They have more classical training. Truly. Yeah, they sing more than they lip sync. And I know the look is a little less important than it is here. But we'll see. Maybe they'll prove us wrong or right on that. Really excited about that. And crazily, I have another podcast on Patreon called We Love Trash.
Starting point is 01:15:24 Listen to that. Find us there. What's the premise there? We talk about all things trash. Food, reality TV, bad movies, weird celebrities, hot guys, all the trash. Hot historical figures who created psychology tests. Yeah. And my drag podcast is with Nicole Byer and my trash podcast is with Betsy Sedaro.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Hell yeah. They're both angels and perfect. Heavy hitters. So find me there. Truly. Yeah. So find me there. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:15:54 Oh, yes. Yeah, bitch. Oh, yes. Let's see. Let's see. It's that one you showed me. Yes. It was from Bhaddad.
Starting point is 01:16:04 Let's see. B-H-A-D-D-H-A-D. So stupid. I think the caption reads, Mrs. Potato Head, Ayo, where my eyes go? And then, okay. The video says,
Starting point is 01:16:19 Andy's mom in her room. This is the only important part. It's a woman with a gigantic ass who has stuck giant googly eyes upon her ass and is twerking and jiggling about. And it is heaven. Each cheek has one googly eye and she's making it clap so the eyes are truly doing. But like very large googly eyes. Very. I don't know where you even get googly eyes that big.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Supersized. I wonder if she made them. She's so about her art. She's like, I actually had I wonder if she made them shout out to Casper Baby Pants mesmerizing what's Casper Baby Pants is that a stealth ad that's the artist who recorded googly eyes
Starting point is 01:16:58 the children's song it's wonderful mesmerizing you gotta find it yeah I'm blown away. I've never seen something so sexual and stupid at the same time. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray. Let's see a tweet that I like.
Starting point is 01:17:23 This one's from reductorous Classical, just great one-liner Why I don't masturbate until 10pm Like the Europeans Great Oh, hold on, one more too from Reductress Because it's actually very relevant Quiz, which succession character are you terrified To find yourself rooting for?
Starting point is 01:17:43 Terrified, That's funny. Yeah, that's real. At Drill tweeted, my billionaire friend smoking in an alleyway with leather jackets and slick back hair trying to peer pressure me into doing pedophile sex. What? And Jessica Pilot tweeted, I would describe the fashion in LA as people in their 30s and 40s dressing like the children they don't have. Oh, yes. Oh, my God.
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Starting point is 01:18:28 Okay, so this is a track from Mick Jenkins, the MC, but it's featuring, he's being backed by the great Canadian new jazz crew, Bad Bad Not Good.
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Starting point is 01:18:48 Whatever. Yeah, smoke. Oh, hell yeah. You know what I mean? Shout out to Stanley Ipkiss. All righty then. Yeah. Remember that mask line?
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