The Daily Zeitgeist - The Right’s New Definition of Hate Speech, Gwyneth’s $75 Bag Of Poop 11.02.22

Episode Date: November 2, 2022

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Oh, hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 261, Episode 3 of the Daily Zeitgeist, by Diet Coke. November 2nd, right? Yep. It's November 2nd. Let me pull up my magical list. And what does that mean? It's National Ohio Day, National Deviled Egg Day, National Broadcast Traffic Professionals Day, and National Stress Awareness Day. Don't be smoking stress, y'all. Only chronic. We all know. Be careful out there. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Hideo Noho, the Lord of Lancashire.

I was gray, a.k.a. Hideo Noho, the Lord of Lancashire. And I am pleased to be joined by my very blessed and talented guest co-host straight out of Chicago, Illinois. Mr. Jockeys Neal. Oh, just in case we don't daily zeitgeist tonight. Let Jockeys make love to your ears for the last time, baby. Do do do. Oh, that's all I got because I pulled that right out my ass. But as per usual, what up, Negroes? How we doing tonight, today?

This afternoon. Doing great. Whenever you're listening. How you doing? How we doing? What's up, Miles? Doing all right. I mean, the takeoff getting killed is definitely a big dark spot today or this morning.

I did not expect to read that. That was very sad. But other than that, you know, the world continues to spin. So, yeah, I can't I can't complain. But you've been good. You've been all right. I've been it's been lovely, man. It's been it's been a couple of months since I've been back.

So it's good to be back. Good to be back in the hot seat. I feel good. I found out takeoff, you know, got murdered earlier today too. And then right before we recorded, something that made me laugh is Imei Doka is now the next head coach, which made me crack up. So a lot going on. A lot going on.

But we have a lot going on too on this Zoom call. Actually, and this podcast recording because we don't have just one guest we got two guests who are podcasters in their own right of what i will call probably a first rate podcast called locatora radio okay and this is some two people from la talking all kinds of stuff, culture, politics, whatever, engaging in the real stuff that's happening. I think the last episode was about conservative, the conservative Latina. Please welcome to the Daily Zeitgeist, Malamunios and Diosa Femme! Hola, hola.

Hey, everyone. How you doing? Thanks for having us. Good to have you. Thanks for coming by. Yeah, good to have you. Thanks for coming by. Yeah. Good to have you. I would say what's new, but this is the first time we're meeting. So great to meet you.

And is there anything new going on with you all that we should know? As if we know each other. I mean, our first big major thing is we are like new to iHeart, to the network. We just signed with the My Cultura Network, which is like the Latinx programming within iHeart, to the network we just signed with the My Cultura Network, which is like the Latinx programming within iHeart. And we're really excited to be part of the family. Yeah, we've been podcasting since 2016. But to be on this level, to have this kind of game changer has been really exciting. So we're just happy to be here. Oh, you know, you are, you know, legends in your own right. You've won awards.

People know how good you are. I think it's only probably a matter of time that everybody began to understand that. But yeah, thanks so much for coming on. And OK, so this is something I was going to before we started. I was like, this is something I've been having arguments about, not with any of y'all specifically. But I asked the two of you. Both of you are from L.A., right? Yes.

What part of L.A. are y'all specifically, but I asked the two of you, both of you are from LA, right? Yes. What part of LA are y'all from? So I grew up in the San Gabriel Valley, but I live more like in central LA, mid city now. Okay. Okay. 626 checking in. Okay. Yes, truly. Yeah. I'm in the 562. I'm in Southeast LA. Okay. Okay. There you go. Okay. So now, and Jack Heese, I said, you're from Chicago. He said, well, yeah, I've been living here for a minute. This is now this is a question I have. When you're on vacation, right, and you're meeting, let's say you meet other American people or you just meet people and they say, oh, hey, OK, cool. Where are you from? Do you say where you live or where you're from? Yeah, I mean, I got it. What's question. What is the right answer there? Yeah.

At this point, I just say LA. I just got back from having a black-ass adventure in Europe for a month last month. So, of course, you get a lot of, where are you from, where are you from? And then you say the States. Or you say California, and then you say the states and or you say california and then you say los angeles so that was the default but then like if you're worthy enough to have me conversate

with you for longer than like two minutes and we start talking and you know i eventually i'll let it come out like well i was actually born in chicago i'm from chicago so at this point i've been living in la for over 10 years now So at this point, it's just easy. It makes no sense for me to say, oh, I'm from Chicago. This is where I get caught up. When someone says, where are you from? I literally hear that as, hey, where are you claiming? Like, where are you from?

Like, where do you reside? Like, I'll be like, no, man, I'm from the Valley, bro. I'm from the San Fernando Valley. That's where I'm from. But there's people being like, well, it's actually more relevant where you live now and i'm like i guess i just interpret that question to be like where are you from like where do you originate from and i guess that's where i get let me let me tell let me tell y'all something if y'all worry about me still repping chattown chicago south side you ain't gotta worry about that I'm still up here repping the 312 and the 773.

You know what I'm saying? So it's just when I'm talking to the white folk from around the way and they want to know where where are you? They see black folks. We like where you from, my nigga. White people like where you live. Where are you? Right. Right.

Right. But also differently. I think I'm saying that. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It's like it depends? It's context. It depends on who's asking.

If they're creepy, I firmly believe in lying to people about where you live and where you're from. Hey girl, where you at? Where you from? You know? Because also now living in Chicago, being from Chicago and shit, this shit happened to me in LA at a karaoke bar. I had, being from Chicago and shit, this shit happened to me in L.A. at a karaoke bar.

Like, I had a friend from Chicago and we were talking. And then, of course, it was a white boy. Of course, the conversation turned to, so how about that violence? Like, shut the fuck up. Like, you know, so I don't need all that. But if it's a homie, I can tell the person is cool. Like, Miles, you know me well. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, there's no shortage of chicago pride coming from me oh yeah i know that you you represent all the way okay well glad to know we got that little question out of our way but first before we get to know y'all a bit better let's tell the uh not guests the listeners what they can uh expect to have in store so we're going to talk a little bit about this Paul Pelosi attack and how the right wing just continues to escalate the violence, but also the really absurd rationalizations around why it is or is not happening. Then we got to check in with Goop because they are, you know,

Gwyneth Paltrow has dropped her gift guide on us. And I just want to go through a couple of things because like, I just can't even put myself in the mindset of somebody who looks at this and like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah, I need that. Thank God for that. And we might even get to why the new Santa Claus series might actually be about Donald Trump. We'll see about that. But first, we got to ask our guests and, you know, feel free. Whoever wants to answer first. And I don't say this in any particular order. Marla, Diosa, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

So I went back and looked at what's the last thing that I Googled. The last thing that I Googled is where to watch Spy Kids, because last night I wanted to watch a movie and Spy Kids is a banger and it's all star cast. So, that's me. Wait, so like what about the film? Like just why is it so seminal for you? It's a seminal film because it's hilarious. Top tier. Top tier.

Mm-hmm. And I mean, Antonio Banderas, Danny Trejo, Cheech Marine is like vaguely Mexican. You know, like some Latino-ness in it. Yeah. Right. Junie, like a little boy with all the words on his fingers. What was her name? Alexa Vega. Yes.

She's like Colombian. Yeah. Yeah. Right. She had a moment. Oh, yeah. Jaquisa had a crush on Alex. Yeah.

I had a crush on her. I had a crush on her. Yeah. She was fine. It's funny. Yo, she went to my high school. She was a freshman when I had a crush on her. You didn't have a crush on her. Yeah. She was fine. It's funny. Yo, she went to my high school. She was a freshman when I was a senior, I remember. What?

And at the time, everyone was like, yo, that's the girlfriend. I was like, yo. Because at that point, I'm a senior in high school. I'm like, I ain't fucking with no spy kids. You know, like, I'm out here doing whatever the fuck I'm doing as like an 18-year-old. But everybody in the school was so excited about her being there. And then I saw it and I was like, oh, shit. Okay, so she's on a wave.

Okay. Okay, Alexa. Yes, action star. She's doing stunts and karate and yielding weapons. It's a great film. Okay. All right, so two questions. Two questions.

One, what y'all think about spy kids 3d you know and two and two you know you googled it we need an answer man where can we find you can't leave us hanging on the answer you can rent i ended up watching it on HBO Max. You can stream it today on HBO Max. The trilogy is up there. Oh, the trilogy. Okay. Before it vanishes. How about you?

I googled purity culture. So we're actually producing an episode on purity culture. And is it back? We've kind of noticed a trend that like slut shaming is cool again. So we're producing an episode on purity culture. And like, did it ever leave? Is it back? We've kind of noticed a trend that like slut shaming is cool again. So we're, we're producing an episode on purity culture and like, did it ever leave? Is it back?

What does it mean now? How is it manifesting now from how you, how you guys are observing it? We've seen like a lot of, uh, young women on Tik TOK, like talking about like casual sex is not empowering, you know,

dress modestly, uh, do your makeup in a godly way. Like, yeah, very for us. Very like bizarre. But we you know, we think it's worth talking about. There's like tears. There's levels because it's like from TikTok to the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade to Iran to like women getting tickets for wearing tank tops in public.

And we we're going to share this story on Locatora when we talk about purity culture. But we have a friend, Malina Bobadia, who's an actress and she's on Twitter. She's on Orange is the New Black and such. And she had an experience on a flight where a young woman in a tank top was like being verbally harassed by a flight attendant who was like telling her that she was dressed inappropriately, that she was dressed too revealing. She had to cover up and they gave her a sweater. They gave her a sweater.

So our friend Melina said something in defense of this other passenger, this young lady, and they kicked our friend Melina off the flight for saying something. So, you know, we have our sources and examples. You'll have to tune in for more. But yeah, absolutely. No, and I'm not here to be like, OK, now show your work because I don't believe that. But yeah, absolutely. Like and I think we are seeing just in general like this overall swing back to more like, quote unquote, conservative values, not whatever the Republican Party defines as conservative these days, but more like let's regress. Let's take back some of the liberation that was that we fought for, for sure. Yep.

What's something that you think is overrated? I would say direct messages. The DM. The DMs are dead. Severely overrated. I think the creation, the invention of the DM, like really marked the decline of like human communication. It's like strangers should not be able to talk to me. creation, the invention of the DM, like really marked the decline of like human communication. It's like, strangers should not be able to talk to me. Like, why should strangers be able to talk to me? Like, it would be weird on the street if a stranger just shared their thoughts with me,

you know, but like, oh, it's on Instagram. So it's okay. I don't like you. Leave me alone. Do not speak to me. That's real. Love this. What's the worst kind? What's the kind of DM that you absolutely are like, see, this is exactly what I'm talking about. Is there a specific genre? Because I feel like I'm sure as somebody who is vocal on the Internet and a woman of color, I'm sure people have plenty to say. But I don't want to jump in and assume anything. But what's the worst kind of DM that you get or you hate getting?

Oh, there's so many. There's so many to hate. But I think obviously men are the worst. Men are the worst. There are some DM dwellers that just live there, you know. And one time I actually I was roller skating in Venice Beach. Yeah, I was roller skating in Venice Beach doing my thing. Nine hours later, I get a direct message from some guy who had taken a picture of me while I

was skating. I could tell it was a screenshot of a video actually that he had taken of me. And he sent it to me via DM. And he wrote me something really gross that I'm not going to share on the air. But like, that would be the worst kind, I think, of all the kinds, but there's so many. That that's fucking terrible so thirsty and gross also i you know dms have made have made it too easy not to think about what you're gonna say to people yep yeah right because you know like yeah because that shit wouldn't work like you said come up on the street like hey what's up baby girl just want you to know i took this video of you and i want you to see this real quick you know what i'm saying oh no you know more of them skates was looking good on your ankles baby girl like you ain't gonna say that

shit to nobody right you ain't gonna say that i mean maybe you will but i mean i feel like you probably would hear something about that but yeah but you will think about it you know but in the dms you could just like quote shoot your shot your shot. Right. And then they just see like, all right, isn't gonna stay on the rim is gonna go in. And it's just made it too easy to be a creep and to be lazy to just be lazy as hell. I love this take. Love this take. Get out of my DMs. booms. Yes. Yeah, there's like some things people say online that they'd never say to your face. Never. You know, even like mean shit or creepy shit, like they wouldn't actually say it to you, to your face. It's like

say it to my face then. Yeah, and many a relationship, many a career have been ruined. The screenshot DM combo, like when we think of the history of technology, like that combination has been lethal, has destroyed empires, families yeah 100 it's more potent than our criminal justice system i don't even know uh how about you diosa what's

something you think is overrated oh my god okay i think that wedding planning is overrated i think everyone should get married maybe are you wedding planning right now? Someone that I know that maybe. I'm not supposed to talk about. Okay. Maybe not. Maybe doing some wedding planning. And I think that. Okay.

Man, when you're like, when you come from like a Latino family, if you don't invite everybody, you're offending everybody. It's a problem. You know what I mean? And so I'm like, dang, people should just elope is what I think. I think wedding planning is overrated. It's hard. It's hard too, like right generationally we're in this really weird spot where you know like our parents like people got married in like the 70s or 80s or whatever they'd be like yo man i made it work

like we were able to get yeah because it was fucking 13 to get married back then and now like it's like the markup is like oh you want to rent some tables okay that's like eight bucks they're like oh for a wedding oh that's like eight bucks. They're like, oh, for a wedding? Oh, that's 82 per table. You're like, it's the same fucking thing. Exactly. It's just the context of the rental is different. And now the fucking cost goes up.

This is robbery. The upcharge. Yeah, it's like a million dollar industry, like multi-million dollar industry. Yeah, absolutely. And so I think that that's overrated. So for you, is it is like the balance more of like, I, I want to have everyone there. But that's also a huge undertaking to plan something that makes like brings it to the level that I want it to for my, you know, or for whatever wedding for said wedding, to the point where it's like, I think the easiest, most diplomatic thing is to elope. So my partner and I have our moment where we celebrate the matrimony and nobody has to be like, hey, well, none of us were there.

So it's not really like anybody. Yeah, I think my thing is like I would rather have like I would rather not deal with like obligation invites. You know what I mean? Which tends to happen where it's like, well, you have to invite your Tia and you have to invite so and so. And it's like, well, no, I don't have to actually invite anybody, you know? And your cousin got a new boyfriend, too. Right. They're like, she's 17.

She's 17. And it costs money. Literally. Yeah. I'd rather invite nobody is what I'm thinking. Elopement sounds more fun to sexier. You know, it's great. It's great.

Go have your time together. You know what I'm saying? This sounds a beautiful thing. Can I ask this though do we think that like if you just say for instance because most weddings is just the party that's right so like if you take away the ceremony and it's just a party do we think people would have the same offense if they're not invited or anything like that if it's just a cell if it's just a party a celebration but they didn't actually get to hear the i do's right is that the same thing i think people would be less offended you know which is wild to me right it's just the name of

like you know hypothetically the name of a wedding right yeah right i want to see the moment when you kiss when you kiss your partner right right yeah it's weird it's weird it got to the moment when you kiss your partner, right? Right. Yeah, it's weird. It's weird. It got to the point when I was planning my wedding, I was telling my wife, I was like, yo, like, what if we told them we're having a business meeting in our conference room? And we put up graphics, like, with our last names. Like, it's a merger. And we do, like, slick graphics. And then people are there and they serve food.

And then, like, at the last minute, we switch it up on the staff and be like, yo, take it off, rip it off. It's a wedding and be like, yo, OK, this is a wedding. Y'all know what to do. Move the chairs. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And then you're out. And then I mean, they'll maybe say it's fraud or whatever, but I can be like, maybe we spontaneously decided to do this at this business merger. Can you say it's fraud? Can you be like, hey, I'm sure that wasn't a business party that was a wedding party we like so the fuck what no like at that point that's performance art like that's a play yeah exactly where are my awards you know what we're we should start calling weddings plays now like the actual ceremony is just a scripted part of the show. It might as well be, yeah.

For the budget and shit that go into it. And then after is the cast party. Yes. The wrap party. The wrap party. Absolutely. The wrap party. Let's do it. We're rebranding weddings.

You heard it here first. Yeah. Exactly. Right. Oh, did you go to the pre-production party? Oh, right. Okay. The rehearsal.

That's the wedding rehearsal. That's the wedding rehearsal. That's the pre-production party. And they can't charge that much. You know what? Thank you. Boom. I was engaged at one point.

I didn't make it down the aisle. But next time, if this happens again, I'm calling my wedding a play. Yeah. Will you be my scene partner? Hell yeah. I mean, did you see the wedding of Chelsea Devontez and Yasser Lester? Yeah. Like on Instagram? Over the top. Okay. So, you know, y'all know Chelsea Devontae and Yasser Lester? Yeah. Like on Instagram?

Over the top. Okay, so y'all know Chelsea Devontae? I wasn't invited to that shit either. Yasser Lester is a comedian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And his wife's also a comedian writer. They had the wildest fucking wedding. Based off all the posts, it was like, it's what happens when two creative people are like, man, fuck tradition, man.

We're going to have a fucking good time. They had a fucking live moss room where they're like, yo, you high? Go have some Taco Bell. They had stand-ins for pictures for the photo booth. So they didn't have to waste their time at the photo booth. They hired two lookalikes to be at the photo booth. There's all kinds of just fun things. It was over the top.

It was an installation. I love that. Yeah, exactly. That's amazing. If like Banksy was your wedding planner. The dress code was OutDoUs. Yeah, exactly. So like everybody came and like, you know, they was in nines.

Serving. It was cool. It was cool. Absolutely. Okay, let's move on. Mala, Diosa so let's start with you what's something you think is underrated us i think we have been historically underrated us yes so we're yeah we've just i think this is our moment you know we've been like put on

we've been put on in smaller ways in great ways but it's like you know when you feel like someone is sleeping on you like Yeah, for sure. That's how the last six years have felt until now. Until now. Wow. Like, you know. We're gathering our flowers. Yes.

Yes, exactly. And many are continuing to rain down. And more to follow, I'm sure. I'm sure. And so is that, do you feel the same way, Mala? There's nothing, no one underrated, nothing underrated like like the two of you my underrated is sitting in complete silence i think that is underrated deeply in our world okay she just goes okay i like how deal so you're like yeah man our podcast you know because we get to talking on these microphones and

like we're making magic you know what i mean and then you're like yeah you'd be nice just shutting the fuck up but i know that's not what you mean. But you mean like just the being able to be comfortable and not talking and being able to just sit and ruminate? Yeah. You know, I've been dating. I've been dating for a long time. And something that I've noticed is that I really appreciate being able to sit in silence with somebody like and not having to like fill the air in the space with chatter yeah and and and other than that just i feel very overstimulated a lot like we're online

hardcore like we're podcasting digital media like i'm watching a show and i'm on my phone and i'm on my laptop and i'm switching between 12 different apps it's like too much. So I really value the pause now. I'm embracing the pause. Yes. Love this. Yes. Love this. Love both of these underrateds.

Everybody, y'all get on these. Y'all get on these too. Y'all get on these too. They about to blow up. Send them flowers of respect. They already blowing up. They blowing up, yo. Be like, I came in, not on the ground floor.

Send flowers of respect or courtship. I came in on the middle floor. So do that. And also, shut the fuck up everybody just be quiet just once in a while yeah yeah be quiet and appreciate be quiet and appreciate i think it is a test though right if someone's just sort of like inner stability not stability or like just you're aware with all of like being able to like i can sit here in silence and my my mind won't start racing to the point where i'm like you better fucking say something just getting weird just so weird now they think you're weird like just being like i'm observing because you do realize we had that skill or like pre-smartphone and shit like motherfuckers would just post and be like talking looking at

stuff and now i feel like everywhere you look, everybody has the same posture, looking down at their phone. And yeah, it is a little bit. Everybody gonna have hurt necks by the time we sabotage it and death. I want to say this point though, to you all being underrated, just real quick.

I know we got to move on from act one, but this is a very common feeling as well for creators of color you know especially women women creative creators of color too but just speaking as a person of color within the creative world too who has done a lot in this business and has done dope shit you get that feeling like how much more do i have to do to get the same admiration and adulation that some of our counterparts get who aren't as fucking good as we are like that's not saying that's not being cocky that's not being cocky that's just being fucking truthful you know the work there's different bars that are set at different levels

there's different bars that set at different levels you know so i i think it is it's a it's a very common thing for a lot of us to feel like we're underrated because we know the hard work we put in we know how fucking good we are we know how bad some people are who are higher level than we are like let's just be fucking real uh we know these things right and so when those moments come like we we we don't just knock the door down. We bust that fucking door down and we actually come in and say, now it's your turn to see what I've known all along. I had my show on iHeart, on all my shows and shit. Like, we don't just need y'all to be like, man, I love these motherfuckers. We also need y'all to be telling people, like, y'all need to watch and listen to these motherfuckers. Because this is the next generation.

These are the people that are doing the dope shit. Because we out here working. And not fuck deserve it. We've earned it. Yeah, absolutely. Yes. And I think, yeah, that's a hard part i'm sure like any people in marginalized groups like you you still you start fucking that imposter syndrome

sets in and like i'm sure like you're saying you've been on the grind for years and you're like fuck man like we know this shit is good but like what where's the tipping point and other times yeah like you're saying you see other people get on and that can be disheartening so i think it's yeah it's it's so important like to to believe in what you do and just to continue to do it because you know like that's that's really the formula for success most of the times like sincere desire to succeed at something with a little bit of talent and a lot of luck but when that luck hits you're ready for sure oh yeah they'll see they'll all see yeah i mean I'm sure,

you know, a lot of people who like listen to our show, you know, are also creators themselves or aspiring to any words of wisdom that you would like to, you know, scatter some some seeds of wisdom before they turn to the flowers that you will pick up. I would say literally just keep going. If you keep showing up, I think that's honestly 80 percent of it is just continuing to show up and continuing to put your work out there. because that's how we started. We saw a void in the podcasting space back in 2016 for like Latina voices, more progressive Latina voices and all kinds of different things. And we were like, okay, there's our entryway

because we didn't have an audio background. We didn't have a podcasting background, but we made it work and we taught ourselves how to do all of it. And so I would say that for anyone, like if there's something that you want to see and it's not there, you make it yourself. Yeah, absolutely.

And don't like be afraid to let your project grow and take on new shapes and like expand. So after launching Locatora Radio in 2016, years later, we ended up launching our own production company. So we're Locatora Productions LLC. And last year, I self like produced and I host a new show on our sleigh. It's called Marihuanera, a podcast for potheads. production company as well. So I think that's another thing that I hope our trajectory speaks to is growing and expanding and diversifying and also taking your work seriously, like become an LLC, trademark the name of your show or your product or your idea, you know, like take it seriously and treat it like a business because it could be. Absolutely. Yeah. And I'll say this too. People, I give advice to young podcasters, comedians, entertainers all the time. And I tell this to everybody. It always sounds flippant at first, but I mean it in a very positive way. No idea you have is generally special because it's been done before. Generally. Right.

Because it's been done before, generally, right? So what's special about what you want to do is nobody's seen you do it, right? So you are at the middle of everything that you fucking do. So you got to know that. Like a talk show, there's been millions of talk shows, but nobody's seen you have a talk show. Smoking weed, a lot of people smoke weed, but nobody's heard you talk about it, right? So you need to know that you are always and I'm talking to the general you. You are always at the middle of everything. So like have that confidence and knowing that without me, this shit ain't possible. Right. You know, like if if you like my content, that means you like me. You like my content.

content and like have that confidence stop comparing yourself to other people because that is step one of fucking your whole shit up and not honoring the fact that you are actually a unique quantity okay exactly let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about fucking news after this i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups

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conspiracy theorists and those Republican and unhinged conspiracy theorists seem to be synonymous with a lot of recent days. So when news first emerged about this attack, I just want to talk about how just generally the like sort of the flow of information has been about this. When the news first came out and how he was in the ICU with a head injury from being attacked with a hammer, most reasonable people were like, that sounds fucking terrifying that some person just pulled up in their house and is just swinging on people with a hammer, especially someone as you know, like it who's, you know, whose partner whose wife is the speaker of the house. And clearly that attracts a lot of ire from like right-wing extremists. And so once people were like, wow, this is awful,

this sounds like a terrible, violent event. It just, you know, like a lot of people then were like, well, what happened? Like, how does someone with like zip ties and a hammer get into the house of someone who's the second in line to the presidency. The first reaction from the Republicans and the right wing media was just to spread like diabolical misinformation, like that Pelosi was somehow involved. He's in some kind of situation with a male sex worker and things went south. And that's what happened. So to completely just use homophobia and just be like, yeah, I mean, that's probably I mean mean who knows in san francisco the this guy was in the house maybe knew him i don't know what that says about paul pelosi like a lot of people i mean on the right took that

fucking line and just went with it including uh elon musk who later deleted that shit and then uh like the first thing wasn't to say like, wow, this person may have may have had an imagination that was like forged in the fires of like Fox News and right wing media. That wasn't sort of the first kind of take. I mean, aside from many progressive onlookers, onlookers who are like, this is clearly an escalation based on how right wing media operates. But the attacker actually debunked all those weird theories when the police were just interviewing him and saying, what the what's going on? Like, what why were you in this house? His plan. And this is really disturbing. So I just want to just say that up front. His plan was to enter the house and interrogate Nancy Pelosi, like bound her, interrogate her. And if she told the truth, he would let her go. Not sure what the truth is. And if she didn't comply, he would basically, as he said, break her kneecaps with the hammer.

So she would have to be rolled into the Capitol on a wheelchair to, quote, send a message. And we also found out that he was potentially trying to find a way to lure another individual by having Nancy Pelosi there like in his custody or whatever. And right now, the main response from Republicans at this point is either to just like laugh it off like it's the new January 6th, like they're overreacting or just stay silent. It's some wild stuff. It's some wild stuff. It reminds me, honestly, like the victim blamey kind of commentary towards Paul Pelosi reminds me of the way that sexual assault victims are spoken about. Because, I mean, the setup is so OK, so like a man breaks into the house and attacks him and immediately the victim blaming and like questions about his sexuality and what does it mean about the victim right and so it's just interesting to see like the same type of dynamics and language applied here so it kind of doesn't matter the facts there's a way to find blame like in victimization and it also kind of reminds me of

like in some ways like people with the new je new Jeffrey Dahmer series making a lot of like empathetic and sympathetic remarks about him. Oh, he was troubled or oh, he was neglected as a kid or oh, his dad taught him how to embalm animals or whatever. But then you look back at the interviews with the actual Jeffrey Dahmer and he was very straightforward and matter of fact about like, I just did it just because there was no deeper meaning. I'm not crazy. It's not my dad's fault. It was me. I wanted to kill these people, you know.

And so I think like when it comes to white men, like we just have this way of excusing their violence and finding ways to like to make light of it or to come up with reasons for why they do things when sometimes like people just commit acts of violence because they want to hurt people. Yeah. So that's kind of what this whole thing sort of has reminded me of. So it's fascinating to see it come down on this wealthy, powerful white man. Right. As as the victim in this situation. Right. Right. And yes, have that same playbook like run on him from like the detractors on the right. have that same playbook like run on him from like the detractors on the right it's pretty wild too because you know we know we don't only excuse white male violence we and we them television

entertainment whatever politicians they also glorify it and fantasize about it and we make it like thing of legend like a serial serial killer should not be a thing of legend but also in this specific instance is so hypocritical because remember when like motherfuckers was going to like cabanel's house cop however you say his fucking name cabanel's house and shit yeah all the republicans eat a steak dinner no yeah no one should be standing outside of people's houses right and those same motherfuckers ain't saying shit about somebody actually going to uh going inside making it in like attacking that person's spouse with the plan

to attack the actual person dead silence or it's not that serious or blah blah blah blah you know it just convinces me that we are not living in a real simulation because my brain just can't compute sometimes how these things are possible the hypocrisy of the right though isn't hypocrisy you know what i mean it's it's all their policy says no no if you, no. If you assist, you know, sis had like Christian white person. You could you're good. Yeah. It's the rules are going to apply to everybody else. You could get an abortion. Oh, yeah, you can get abortion all day. But we want to make it harder for everybody else. And if you do end up if we do find out that that happened, it doesn't matter because it didn't really. That's not a standard we're trying to uphold for everybody. It's just a tool to oppress people. And they reveal that every time with their double standards, because no, don't don't interrupt Brett Kavanaugh's steak dinner by getting in his face and telling him that he's a predator. And he's actually like ushering in this new era of, you know, Christo fascism in the country. He's like, don't do that and don't go near their

house and don't go near his house oh but y'all's house that's fine just don't come near our shit don't try and make us be don't try and hold us to account that's a completely different thing but they just haven't they can't quite cross over into fully embracing their rhetoric which really means no fuck all y'all like it's about this thing that we have here that we're trying to hold on to with our nails blowing off as we hold on as tightly as we can and harm millions of people in the process.

But the thing to that is, also, let's say, you know, what happened to Brett Kavanaugh happened to Nancy Pelosi and Paul Light, where somebody just came and interrupted their fucking like dinner. Right. And the right didn't say anything.

That's hypocrisy. That, that is hypocrisy. Like at its crux, but that's not what happened. Like they came and attacked this man and like put him in a fucking hospital. Like that's not hypocrisy. That is,

I'm okay with that shit. That's, that's beyond hypocrisy that is i'm okay with that shit that's that's beyond hypocrisy because hypocrisy somewhat requires the levels to be the same these well there's levels to this shit i'm not trying to equivocate i'm not trying to equivocate what i'm saying consistently it's like a lot of the time especially in like like like democrat like you know liberal media it's like you can't believe the hypocrisy it's like that's not a weapon to them like that's not a that's not a thing that they're gonna be like damn they called us on our hypocrisy not at all that's like that like that's calling out hypocrisy it would maybe shame a reasonable person into being like oh wow i'm being wildly inconsistent and i'm like living at a double standard. But again, like the whole thing is like, look, we're we're basically like mask halfway off racists and we're just trying to keep moving towards this one thing by any means necessary,

according to their policies. It's fascinating, too, because I think that there's this assumption that if you're wealthy and powerful, that you're like completely shielded from like violence or this assumption that if you're wealthy and powerful that you're like completely shielded from like violence or extremism but i mean like the bling ring it was an entire group of kids targeting wealthy homes and stealing from them you know what i mean and like sharon tate was like killed in her home by you know manson and them and like megan the stallion was just recently broke her house was broken into and kim k was held like, you know, in Paris, like and robbed. And so I think it's just like also it says something to about when people do target the rich and powerful, because if they cannot protect themselves from extremism, then what does that say about like the little guy and the average person, you the average person and our abilities to protect ourselves? And if there's no empathy, even for rich, powerful white people,

then what happens to us when that violence gets directed to the more vulnerable with fewer resources who are even more likely to be victim blamed because they're racial or ethnic minorities or women or queer or homeless, what have you. Yeah, what happens to us is the police start killing us. Right. So I get, it worries, like, I think we should all be worried when we see, like, the rich and powerful being attacked in these ways. Because, you know. Right. The escalation in partisan violence, you just it it's like, where's the ceiling?

Yeah, because it keeps going up. And I like and I think to your point, it's like you don't want it. Like, I don't know. I don't want to live in a country where I see where this leads and what like how normal shit becomes, because the way the Republicans are reacting to this. My God, I mean, they're completely normalizing it. reacting to this my god i mean they're completely normalizing it carrie lake who's running for governor in arizona was like making jokes at a rally was like you know they want to talk about protecting our schools you know nice i mean you know nancy pelosi she has protection in dc but i guess not so much at her house and the fucking crowd was like ah ha ha yeah i saw that clip it's awful it's awful that they're just laughing and making jokes and making light of it yeah and i think that only continues to only like you could like further the momentum of people who are on some kind of destructive path based on the media that they're ingesting.

Because, I mean, like you just look at what the takes are, right? Like Donald Trump, he went on Payless Twitter and he was like, you know, looks, I heard that the glass was broken from the inside and not from the outside. And it looks like more of a breakout than a break in lies. Fucking lies. Just fucking bullshit. Like, again, because the first thing was like, maybe this guy was a sex worker. I don't know. Even though this is in like now fully released materials from his interview that he's saying nah i was there because nancy

pelosi's the ringleader right right and i had to take her to task and then you couple then you have other people saying well he's from berkeley so he can't be right wing and he was naked once he was a nudist you know that's not yeah that's not that's republican stuff but they completely ignore all of his social media posts that look like the inside of Marjorie Taylor green's brain. Right. Yeah. Like it's,

it's the entire party. And like the ideology just runs on this self victimization and like constant mental gymnastics for their base to just keep kicking the can of like self awareness down the road. They're like, don't, don't let, don't fucking don't,

don't look, don't try and to do some kind of analysis on what's going on just know here's a talking point here's a thought killing cliche to keep you moving forward and not looking at whatever you've been doing and all their programming is meant to either push people towards dehumanizing other groups and they're like stochastic terrorist shit or convincing their viewers that like they're dehumanizing behaviors like aren't actually that at all yeah it's a lot of dog whistle like dog whistle stuff too you know because i feel like trump and friends and redditors and all these fucking uh fascist and right-wing groups online andRL, like they are like heavily armed and they're

like small militias and they like pay very close attention to what everybody is saying. And so I think that like Trump and friends know this and they know exactly who they're talking to and what their base is capable of. And it's like the they're they're responding to the call, you know, right, is what is what I think is going on. And just like with that guy confessing to why he went to Nancy Pelosi's house that it was a targeted attack. the the narrative and and what we would like to believe about it which i think like a lot of people are making a lot of comparisons to sort of like you know the frog in hot water sort of analogy and the water keeps getting hotter and the frog doesn't notice and that's sort of where we are in a lot of ways with racial violence a lot of folks saying things like well you know this is exactly how it felt and what it looked like um in Germany when the Nazis were warming up and getting started.

Right. Right. Yeah. And it used to be a thing where like, oh, those like the being like, man, these Nazis is wild, man. Got to keep an eye on them. And then so it's like, yeah, man, I'm Nazis doing some shit over there to a man. So the Nazis are running everything now. Yeah.

Slippery slope. It is a slippery slope. Yeah. Because, I mean, if you're one like facts don't matter. And then history, there's like a revisionism of history happening. And we're, you know, schools are banning books, like districts are banning books, the Holocaust can't even be taught in certain areas, you know, and so it's it's not all happening in a vacuum. It's all related. and a push to have a less like a population and a you know populace that isn't really thinking critically right and i mean you couple that with like the lack of resources and support people have like there are studies that show like psychologically if you feel increasingly out of control of your life and your ability to support yourself you will begin to be more open to

ideologies that are about like extreme rule setting because just due to the chaos of feeling out of control and like it's you can see the pieces there and like the one thing that like all activists and people that aren't like big d democrats like we have to spend money on supporting people like fuck all these tax cuts like we need to support people where they're at. If you are hungry and shit, the amount of mental chaos, that kind of instability causes is the reason why you're going to see people splinter off and become more extreme because they're going to think, well, fuck, man, I live in such a cruel fucking place. Maybe this person, although they're cruel, they're cruel to people that I don't really know, but at least I have some needs met met and that's what i think's really dangerous i just want to

play this clip of tucker carlson really quick i know because he's out here really on the heels of this right when we've heard that the attacker himself is like no no i don't know what the like this is what happened he's now spinning this to say what, how everyone's describing this attack isn't that terrible and hate speech isn't real. What is hate speech, by the way? All of a sudden, everyone in the media has, sort of without explaining why, agreed that there's this thing called hate speech that's real and probably actionable. They can find a billion dollar judgment against you if you commit hate speech but just to remind everyone watching there's no such thing as hate speech hate speech is speech people hate usually

the people in power the truth is all speech except speech that encourages people to imminent illegal action like go shoot that guy short of that there's no hate speech all of it's allowed under the united states constitution which is our final hope so. So that's him telling all the Fox News viewers, there's no such thing as hate speech. That's the road they're going down right now, or at least trying to normalize or completely blow up the concept of what hate speech is. Because I think you do know know because it's like when people get like they're like they said white guy on twitch ban them it's like okay what was the problem there what was that tell me something or is that that's not like what are the levels here

and i'm not trying to like say that's a racial slur but they clearly have their antennas up for things that are offensive to them and i think hate speech his whole thing is he's trying to basically say like unless you're inciting violence directly then there's no such thing as hate speech and i think this is like this really this is this game that conservatives are playing with by like not understanding what stochastic terrorism is like that if you're like they're saying look i'm not saying kill all x group of people I'm just saying they're not people and they're demons over and over and over and over and over again to the point that it will take people's perception of them and shift it fully into this is a non-human. So this person actually doesn't

deserve the same rights as I do because over a steady diet of this repetition of this idea, I've now believed this person is not deserving of human dignity. And this typically results in violence. It's not like it's not always saying this always happens, but that's the process to get there. And I think that's what they're really trying to avoid. Yeah. A reckoning. I'm so tired of talking about Republicans and conservatives and like, you know, I'm just I'm so tired of it. But the sad thing is, you know, and I know we all are. But the flip side to that is, well, if we don't talk about it, we let this, you know, we let this kind of hate and these kind of values just go unchecked. Right. And and and that has kept me

going for a very long time. But even now, it's starting to feel like when you have a party of people and you have a group of people who literally cannot say, it's bad to attack a man with a hammer in his house unexpectedly, because that'll make you lose support in your base it starts to feel like everything we talk about is in a vacuum like even this show you know this show and we ain't no motherfucking republicans listening to the daily zeitgeist and if there are they're you know like not not the same as watching fox news and like things like that right and so like and it starts to feel it starts to feel hopeless in a way where it's just like who are we talking to then besides just talking to the people who

already agree with us right i and and i and one day i just hope to know the answer to that as far as because like some of the shit where we are right now is fucking crazy like if you just really think about it it's fucking like this dude literally got on national television was like there's no such thing as hate speech um there is allowed speech and not allowed speech and the only not allowed speech is the speech if you get somebody to kill somebody i'm just like what like what are you talking about he talked about like yeah broke down player he's like hey hate speech the only speech they hating is when they hating on you and you're like hold on that's not a fucking like that wasn't a rhetorical takedown yeah like what are you fucking talking like yeah you were slick with the order of words

there but that's not again and i i think more than saying like if it's a vacuum or not, I think it's more about people being absolutely aware of what is going on around them, because I think another thing that I see that's very common, people have completely retreated from the news. I know so many people who are like, man, I don't know how you do a show like that. Talking about the news every day. Shit is so fucked up. Yeah, it is. so fucked up yeah it is and i'm personally wired in a way that i feel like if i'm telling people about it or i'm talking about it and not at least other people can be aware and not to say that this is the only source of information but that like part of the action is getting information to people and and describing it in a way that isn't going to paper over the existential threats like

i'm not over here going to be like yeah yeah, I'm sure it'll be fine. I'm sure the Republicans will sort it out. Like that's how they talk on CNN and shit. You know, like this is this is a this is a truly like we're looking at a menace like within our country of people who have completely normalized all kinds of hateful rhetoric and violence. And those people are are doing everything they can to be in increased positions of power to enact that in like a like through legislation yeah and like that's

those are that's what's going on and i know what you mean like it feels it feels helpless in the sense of like we still live in a white supremacist capitalist patriarchy sure you're right yes i think the i think that is the i think that's the play is we all have to keep talking about this but also know that we're talking about these things and making it known so like you said we are aware of what is going on around us yeah you have to know when people like that are trying to run for positions of power or this yes or people in your community your own community might be flirting with fucking dangerous ideas that have been tailored to them to bring them on board with shit like that like and just knowing yo y'all got to know what the fucking stakes are yes yeah you have to take that shit seriously because there was a

time where no one thought trump was going to get elected you know and so you have to take it seriously like no matter how small a voice it is at the time, because then it grows to be fucking loud. Yeah. And what Tucker did there with that little segment, Tucker is such a tricky little boy because he's so sneaky, because the suggestion, the statement that the only bad speech is like a direct call out to murder people. It does not take that much to get folks to kill other people. People don't need to be told. They do it anyways of their own volition. Nobody got on TV and told this man to break into Nancy Pelosi's house.

He concocted that plan all by himself. It takes very little, for example, again, taking this back to like violence against women. All a woman has to do is say no to a man and he will kill her. And it happens every day. It happens all the time. It does not take much to actually, quote, incite violence. A lot of people are ready to act in violent ways. So that soundbite of Tucker's is so dangerous because it doesn't even take all of that to incite violence. It's the mere suggestions is all it takes to like really set that fire off in someone.

Right. I mean, yeah, it's it's it's wild how much influence that, you know, shows a show like his has when he's not really even saying real shit. It's just like it's like i'll give like here welcome to tucker carlson racist rationalization hour like i'll help you i'll give you some sentences that will help you rationalize your thinking and your behavior and that's what we'll do and if someone here's a criticism that somebody might say to you well let me tell you why that's bullshit is basically what the function of his show is and i and i think then that's what's super dangerous because you're just furthering this like radicalization process but yeah we shall see what uh what happens here we shall see guys everybody just stay you know just stay don't

get caught slipping you know i mean that's the thing is like disengage from what's happening in your community at your own risk because like to retreat from your own community and like where you live and like the people around you and not know what's happening or your community at your own risk. Because like to retreat from your own community and like where you live and like the people around you and not know what's happening or what's at stake, I promise you, you'll have a much harder time like coming to grips with that reality than like trying to stay on top of it in real time. Okay, let's take a quick break

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But Gwyneth Paltrow, you know, her whole wellness brand, they just put out their 20, 20, I don't know. I don't know. 20 deuce deuce gift guide this week. And I'm like Oprah's gift guide. At least there's some shit for like regular people in it. And there's some like fancy shit where you're like, hey man, ain't nobody putting like wearing truffled socks or whatever the fuck you're trying to push in that thing. But like the Gwyneth Paltrow goop guide is absolute, like just over the top luxury nonsense. And right now the, if you total up everything in this guide, it costs $900,000. Yeah. And I just want to go through a couple of the things that are in here because I, again,

like I said, I cannot picture what it would be like to want any of this shit. First up is the bead joint rolling machine okay this little machine right here this is a 300 joint rolling machine now look i know you might be like well hold on like i'll fuck with you hold on a second hold on now tell me tell me something what's really going on here so this thing is 300 and it's a fucking like nespresso machine for joint rolling you put like like pre-packaged pods of weed and the descriptions sound mid as fuck with the weed i'm sorry but you put a pod in there press a button with like an empty pre-rolled cone and 20 seconds it spits out a weak ass joint you know i mean the thing is is the the weed and the

flour that's up to the the pothead that's the individual right gwyneth has no control over what we're smoking that's true i don't i don't know i feel like that wasn't a good example to lead with because i'm kind of like i want one really my next boyfriend no y'all don't want no no not a $300 weed roller show me you love me and buy me the $300 weed so much about these luxury items is like the convenience right it's like you're making an investment to make your life

more convenient we're gonna say let's we're gonna do this goop gift guide thing with you we're gonna do it but you need to know that we are bougie bitches and we love that's fine that's fine however this is and my gripe isn't really the price or what it's more like the like rolling a joint like i've been rolling i've been twisting weed my whole life so to buy like a 300 machine that looks like it would sit in like a lawyer's office who's like throwing people of

color in jail for like weed it's like this is how i get down okay there's like when you put it that way there's a darkness i'm just saying there's a darkness there's a dark factor to the machine that i look at i'm like who's making this 300 like nespresso weed rolling machine yeah but i get what you mean um you know there are potheads out there with no fingers okay how do you want them to roll their joints okay the ableism that's's true. That's true. You're right. Look, I'm not even fucking pushed back on that one. All right, you're right. Here's what I'll say.

Let my cousin Greg out of jail and let him make a weed rolling machine. Charge 500 for that bitch and I bet you it'll pop out some better weed joints. I don't care about the price. I just don't want Gwyneth Paltrow selling me weed machines. Right. I guess maybe that's what it is too. Be like, what you know about weed, Gwyneth? What you know about weed want Gwyneth Paltrow selling me weed machines. Right, I guess maybe that's what it is too. Be like, what you know about weed, Gwyneth? What you know about weed, Gwyneth?

Give me some context for the, I need a little more context for the gift guide. She's curating this list. Are these her items that Goop produced? Or this is just a curation? No, no, no. It's like Oprah. It's like Oprah's favorite things. It's curation. Or basically

pay to play kind of shit too because most of those things when they have gift guides, if you're like an up and coming brand, you're like, yo, man, if we give them like 10 stacks up front, they'll put us in the fucking thing, which will help a lot. All right. All right. So again. Okay. Okay.

Good. Okay. Next one. All right. You got to hurry up, man. My truffle socks are starting to get a little bit. Yeah, truffle socks are starting to itch a little bit. Okay.

Hold on. I need to take these things off. Wait, where is this Daily Mail article? Okay, there's a couple other ones. There is, oh, this one right here. This is a $28,500 black leather tufted chair, which says it can go in a living room or a sex dungeon. Yeah, that's a sex chair for sure.

That's a bespoke sex dungeon chair for $28,500. Again, I'm not sure who the audience is, but that's just, that's what they got. Are y'all on the market for a $28,000 sex chair? And look, I'm not trying to get in your business, but that seems like a high ticket item. I just don't have the storage. I don't have the space to put it.

I live in a studio. Where would I put it? I'm going to be real with you. I'm going to be real with y'all. Not even the storage. I'm very confident in myself, but I ain't got $28,000 dick, y'all. I ain't got it. I ain't got it.

I don't think I can fuck on that and be like, we made this worth it, man. We're going to have to be fucking on that for a lifetime. That's $28,000 for a sex chair? Nah. Give me the $300 weed roller. The weed roller does not sound so bad anymore. No, no, no. Yeah, the weed roller sounds great.

Okay, what do you think about a Gucci dog shit bag holder? $430. I kind of love it. It's camp. It's camp. It's camp. It's camp. It's camp.

It's like, you know, not something you need. It's something you want. Yeah. I want it. Right, right, right. Which is what this gift guide is. Also, Miles, you know there are some black ass aunties out there who would have this shit. Oh, they would love this shit.

Totally. Yes. Even though you tell them, you're like, but come on, you know how problematic they are with black people, da, da, da. They're like, I know, but that logo, that monogram. I know, but that logo. When they see me at church with that, they gonna know. I said, look, I know.

I'm not looking in the way. All right. How about this? A Louis Vuitton surfboard. Y'all need that? How much is it? How much? Yeah.

$2,400. Oh, I mean. I don't know. What do surfboards run for? Yeah. What's the going price? Like $100? Yeah, maybe.

I don't know. Like $100, right? I don't know how much it goes for. I actually don't know. I agree. It's like, who's buying these things? Yeah. It looks like a skimboard.

Right. It's more like, we're not looking at a price is right thing, but i'm like if i saw some dude who like pulled up with a skim board it looks like a skit like you know the one that you don't quite surf with but you see the dudes just skimming on on the shore with i think it's but hey do you do you uh what's another one okay how about this uh 239 silk baguette holder it's a silk bag to hold one loose baguette hold on bro let me tell you let me tell you i'm not fucking with that i'm not fucking with him for the baguette but you put some of that cheesecake factory brown bread in that shit right well i'll be walking down the street happy as hell am i i just love it i mean it's reusable it's eco-friendly it's eco-friendly do it keep

the bread warm do it keep it right can y'all help me help me understand who's who's the person like damn you know how it is when i take go get my one loose bag head just wish i had a silk bag for that that's why i'm like i just love the idea with this one of someone like if i saw someone i'm like look i don't i don't know you but i want to know more i want to know more this is great hold on hold on is that a car in the motherfucking yes this is a this is another one a 250 000 vintage ford bronco for who it's like hey do you not do you not have any idea who your partner is but you have so much money that you're looking at this gift guide earnestly then hey why don't you throw 250 fucking k at this ford bronco listen i'm not gonna lie to you miles yeah i can't afford this stuff

but i want to be friends with the people who can't I mean that's and look that's our look if any society's taught us anything that's our only way to the top our only way to be happy I want people to know oh shit I was about to because you can't see

this so I want people to know I was about to say this looks like a fucking bronco without a roof and i see it is actually a fucking bronco vintage bronco i like you're like gotcha gwyneth that's a roofless bronco and then she's like it is that's what it is here's an uh where's this other one oh the cheapest item in her list was this one. Neon colored toilet paper for $18. That is so funny and random.

That's so random. Let me tell you something. I would buy that. I would buy that. There's part of me that can't separate what that's used for and the neon colors. I'm like, this is a little out there. Let me tell you something, man.

When you live in this bidet life, you just need a little something, something just to patch your tribe. Oh, yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm living bidet. I'm bidet. I've been bidet life.

You know what I mean? So for me, those papers, those are just dabbers. You know what I mean? Those are just dabbers. And let me tell you something. My ass deserves some colored dabbers. You know, it deserves some colored dabbers. I get with that.

How about this? This is a $75, nine pound bag of shit. No. Is it manure? Okay. I'm sorry. It's called,

I'm sorry. It's called free range goat, horse, chicken, and cow manure. Artisanal manure. I'm screaming. It is artisanal manure.

Okay. Now I'm raising eyebrows. Now, now. You buying straight shit. Take us back to the weed roller. Take us back. It's literally a bag of shit.

Wow. Gwyneth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then like, so here's just like a couple of the other things. One of the like the biggest ticket item on here or one of the biggest ticket items was a like safari on a private jet for 10 days. Let me just read you the whole description of that one. They say it's a 10 private jet safari experience through Roar Africa. 10 days, $135,000 per person. Every element of this trip is... Hold on. Let me keep going. every element of this trip is hold on let me keep

going every element of this trip is extraordinary with our takeoff you get a private jet with 10 private suites etc etc uh and then you go do all this like white savior shit and like look at africa from like a very you know safe distance and only luxury hotels and you're like i've been to africa i know what's going on type vibes. The thing that really is like wild about this, they say this is a carbon neutral safari. And I'm like, you took a private jet to get there. And you,

and you helicopter around all kinds of places and like drive distances. And on their website, the way they put it is like, see the way we do it is we, we calculate all the carbon and then we give money to groups that we realize through that funding offsets that amount of carbon. But at the end of the day, it doesn't feel like they're trying to do much else except to be like, and then we give some money away, too. See, this is why people say we have to eat the rich. Yeah.

It's like shit like this. Gwen's just doing stuff. She's just saying words and doing stuff. Right. Yeah. While they walk by with their silk baguette holders. With shit bags. And the bag of shit.

$75 bags of shit. Yeah, not shit bags. Bags of shit. There we go. Bags of shit. There we go. Hold on. You bought a $75 bag full of shit?

The shit bags are in that Gucci fucking. That's right. You're right. You're right. Yeah, the shit bags. And the bags of shit. Oh, my goodness. The highlight of this was that Gucci fucking. That's right. You're right. You're right. Yeah. That's the shit bags. And the bags of shit. Oh my goodness. The highlight of this was the weed roller.

Yeah. Weed roller for sure. The thing is, I don't think those, then here's the thing. If you care about the flower you smoke, I think you're beholden to whatever they're pre-packaging. Like when you use like curing. Like Nespresso. Yeah. Like the Nespresso.

That's what I'm saying. That's the problem there is like, it's a pod that like, that's what I'm saying. It's not problem there is like it's a pod that like that's what I'm saying. It's not you can't be like, oh, well, I got my own. You can't put your own thing. So is Gwen growing weed? I don't know. That's the hard thing to figure out. Like I was trying to find out who is behind it, but there's no like about us section on their website.

So I'm just I'm sure you can just we can find out who's doing something. But yeah, the capsules. That weed is trash. You know that weed is trash. Because it's going to be so dry and old by the time you get through all of them. Right? I'm assuming. Yeah.

Oh yeah. 100%. I mean, like they, just like the, the percentages of the THC. I'm like, that shit is going to get me high. the percentages of the THC. I'm like, that shit is going to get me high. This is like weed smoking for like West Hills

Housewives, Calabasas Housewives. That's what it's for, for sure. And they'll probably like, yeah, after like two weeks of use, they'll be like, I just need to give it away. Just like, lost the excitement of it. Now bring my

$28,000 Fuck Shays Lounge over here Immediately at the double Too much I tell you the thing that was worth it most for me was Give me that $250,000 Bronco y'all

Okay give me that Bronco And I'll take that bag full of shit I'll take the bag full of shit You take the bag full of shit i'll take the bag full of shit oh yeah and the baguette holder like people wouldn't fuck with me if i if you saw if you saw me cruising around with a silk black silk baguette holder i would be like yo i don't know what he's i'll be like look at my man let me walk around yeah yeah people be like bro you styling bro that's what the people be saying i know know, man. I know.

I see you. I know. Where my silk bag at, Holder? Pass out Olive Garden breadsticks to everybody. Just tossing them out. Well, Diosa and Mala, thank you so much for joining us on the Daily Zeitgeist. It's been such a pleasure. Where can people find you both and follow you and, importantly, listen to your work and all that?

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And is there a tweet or some other work in social media that you've been liking? Not social media, but I just watched Barbarian, the horror film on HBO Max, and it was so good. So good. You know, the plot is this woman goes to like an Airbnb and realizes someone, it was double booked, someone is already there. And she decides to stay the night anyway

and so it's just so good there's lots of twists and turns like you don't know where it's going and it makes you like question like who's the real monster here 10 out of 10 very good shout out shout out to my homie who played the

I just said okay okay yeah he was on the show no spoilers he was on the show on monday michael patrick davis yeah yeah that's my homie yeah oh wow anyway very cool nothing here we won't say anything else i'm not gonna say it was so funny though we were talking to him about interviews he did he was in an interview where someone's like please explain your character and like what it means in the movie like and they're like uh for people who have never seen the film no and they're like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah really uh not what is going okay anyway anything any any others any other yeah i was gonna say right now i'm loving this twitter account liza manelli outlives do you guys follow my favorite so follow liza manelli outlives

every time someone dies or something ends they tweet liza minnelli has outlived all of kanye's contracts for example who died recently there was like an old white guy that died oh no no his contracts died who who died there was an old white guy jerry lee lewis leslie jordan leslie yeah leslie jordan oh jerry lee lewis liza minnelli has outlived jerry Lewis. Every time someone dies, that's all they tweet. It's so funny. Follow them. That's funny. I love that.

Jaquese, man, thank you so much for coming on and helping me co-host today. Where can people find you and follow you? What's the tweet that you like, man? You can always find me in these streets, everybody. Also, Comedian Feud. We got a new one coming out.

One, November 5th at Dynasty Typewriter. It's a special show. It's going to be a big one, y'all. It's a big one. We got Paula Tompkins, Carl Tard, Lauren Lapkus, Sam Sanders, Novena Carmel, Joseph Fink, and Jeffrey Cranor from Morning at the Night Vale. It's going to be a big-ass show. I'm hosting it. Come out to it.

Dynasty Typewriter, November 5th, 730. Go on my Instagram. You can get the tickets. If it's not sold out, I don't know. But at JockeysNeil on everything. And also, December 5th, Comedian View going back to Elysian, his normal home. It's going to be a big show as well. So yeah, check

that out. A tweet, you know, I'm famously not on Twitter, but I do follow something on Instagram which is Black Twitter Threads. So I got a couple that made me laugh. This is from at Yasme, I don't know, fuck it. Went on

a walk and I saw an orange leaf on the ground i went to step on it to hear the satisfying crunch but it was a butterfly that shit killed me that shit killed me and then that is horrible and then uh rihanna just released some new music. You know what I'm saying? Lift Me Up. Beautiful, heartfelt anthem.

But before it came out, everybody was expecting to shake their ass and pop and lock them knees. And so when it was an inspirational song, motherfuckers was like, what? So there's this tweet. There's this tweet with Lift Me Up. Rihanna remembers the late Chaswick Boseman. And then it says y'all and this is the tweet it's the it's the clip from next friday when the motherfucker the africa dude come in what the fuck is this i can't get jiggy with this shit and i was like that's so true motherfuckers was like what the fuck is this that shit cracked me up man so that's what it is y'all uh uh let's see some tweets that i like one one of them is from halloween it's from

at ben meckler it's just a house like house like from Halloween that has a sign like it's decorated. It says, sorry, no candy. And right next to it, it says, vote Rick Caruso for mayor. I saw that one. I saw that one. That feels about right. Also, George the Cat tweeted, maybe instead of a checkmark, it can be a little boot. Like the one that you paid $20 a month to lick.

Yeah, let them know. And then chart data letting you know, OK, about the charts and what's happening on the music charts. And this is from at chart data tweeted. Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas is You has reentered the top 200 on US iTunes on Halloween. So, y'all, it's about that time already. It's already bubbling up for that shit. Okay, you can find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram.

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