The Daily Zeitgeist - The Russian Kids Are Alright, Burger King Redeems Sponsored ‘Tent 1.25.18

Episode Date: January 26, 2018

In episode 71, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Dave Stone to discuss the doomsday clock, a sci-fi dystopia with porn, Watergate's comparisons to today's government, a Russian viral video conte...nt, a Burger King net neutrality ad, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the President of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. K hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.
Starting point is 00:00:41 I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself?
Starting point is 00:00:55 There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Curious about queer sexuality, cruising, and expanding your horizons? Hit play on the sex-positive and deeply entertaining podcast, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. Join hosts Gabe Gonzalez and Chris Patterson Rosso as they explore queer sex, cruising, relationships, and culture
Starting point is 00:01:23 in the new iHeart Podcast, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions. Sniffy's Cruising Confessions will broaden minds and help you pursue your true goals. You can listen to Sniffy's Cruising Confessions, sponsored by Gilead, now on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. What happens when a professional football player's career ends
Starting point is 00:01:43 and the applause fades and the screaming fans move on? I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. For some former NFL players, a new faith provides answers. You mix homesteading with guns in church. Voila! You got straight away. They try to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 15, Episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist! Yeah! For January 25th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. BoJack Yellow, courtesy of Dale Chaplin, and I am joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.
Starting point is 00:02:24 That's right. Hi, it's me, Miles. Hey, why don't we just go eat some hay or make things out of clay, lay by the bay? I just may. Woody Gray, thank you so much because I'm pretty sure that's a happy Gilmore deep cut. Yeah. And that is from Blacksitive. So thank you at Blacksitive.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Keeping it laxative, but for black people. I don't know. However you want to market that. Blacksitive. So thank you at Blacksitive. Keeping it laxative. But for black people. I don't know. However you want to market that. Blacksitive could also be an AKA for me. A sort of jacksitive. Anyways. Cool. Well, this has been fun.
Starting point is 00:02:55 We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the co-host of Boogie Monster with Kyle Kinane. And the hilarious stand-up comedian Dave Stone. What's up, guys? What's up, Dave? How you doing? Good. I'm great. I'm excited to have you here.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Are you living in a van? Are you in your stand-up? Yeah, I'm still in the van. You are in the van? Yeah, it's pretty cool, dude. Thanks for bringing it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just had to, you know, that was one of my favorite bits.
Starting point is 00:03:18 You guys have to, I was ignorant as to how talented you are. Oh. And it was, man, I fucking was cracking up. Well, thank you. It's been kind of on again, off again, residence ever since I moved to L.A. six years ago. I was in it for a couple of years, and I got out in a couple of years. Now I'm back because show business is wishy-washy. You can't count on anything.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Dave, what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Oh, search history. I don't know. This week, if you looked at it, you might see how to skin a deer. I've just been very curious on how to kill and skin animals. Yeah. Cool. Well, I'm just – with the current political climate, I'm preparing for the worst.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Right. Oh, to be catching your own food, making your own buckskin clothing? I'm already halfway there with the van, so I'm already halfway off the grid. So if need be, I need to know how to kill animals and skin them and eat them. Is skinning a deer easy? It appears to be so. I mean it's a bit gruesome. Just rip the fucking skin off, right? Yeah, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. I mean, it's a bit gruesome. Just rip the fucking skin off, right?
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah, it doesn't take a genius to figure it out. But yeah, there's techniques. You've got to hang it the right way, and you've got to make the incisions. Oh, and then you can just kind of peel it off? Yeah, I'm a little bored with the details, but yeah. It's also a good thing to Google while making eye contact with somebody over the top of your phone. How to skin an animal. What's something you think is overrated?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Oh, man. I just saw Lady Bird. Mm-hmm. So. I mean, it's a – I enjoyed it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Not to get all too judgmental about the Oscars, but like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Best picture. Right. I think a best picture. I think of just this grand, epic film, not just, oh, white girls having growing pains. It's weird because, yeah, you're not the first person to come in saying Lady Bird was overrated. Like everyone has the same thing. I'm not saying it's a bad movie. Yeah, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And I loved Laurie Metcalf. She was great. But just Best Picture, I think Schindler's List, Godfather. Nothing really even – not to give spoilers, but like there was not even a huge major conflict that you could get behind. It was just like, oh, well. Spoiler alert. Nothing happens. I do feel like they – yeah, it's a good – you feel like that's a real high school community.
Starting point is 00:05:38 I don't know. You feel – it feels lived in. But what do you think about the Oscars? We were talking about this with the nominations coming out. That sometimes actual films that deserve to be in the Best Picture category don't often get nominated. Because sometimes we feel that the Oscars have to celebrate the most grand feats of filmmaking. If something was just a really great, solid movie, that it can be in that consideration? Or is it just sort of more of the idea of these these have to be feats of like real cinema, real filmmaking? I mean I just think – I mean it's simple to say but just the best movies. I feel like there is an agenda with the Oscars as far as like what's your movie about or what cause does it promote?
Starting point is 00:06:21 And all that's fine as far as themes and stuff like that. But I feel like some movies, some lesser movies because they have a good theme, they probably get the nod as opposed to another movie. I don't know. Like war movies. I know Dunkirk got nominated. But a lot of times war movies don't get because it's a little right-leaning or it's a little aggro or whatever. But I don't know. I feel like themes sometimes seems to be a little more important than the actual quality of the film.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Gotcha. But I can't give you an example of a movie that didn't get nominated this year that I thought it should, but I don't know. I just miss the days of like, oh, man, that was a frigging movie. Right, right. Not just, oh, here's a quirky little – and I love indie films and little slice-of-life stuff, but sometimes I just, oh, really? Best picture of that? Right. So the year that Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction and Shawshank Redemption all came out, they were all nominated.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Who do you think should have won between those three? Oh, man. That's a tough one. I can't even remember who did win. Did Forrest Gump win? Forrest Gump won. Yeah. And I feel like Forrest Gump has that like big, sprawling.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Mass appeal. Yeah, exactly. And it felt like, wow,ump has that like big sprawling mass appeal. Yeah, exactly. And it felt like, wow, that's one that in the theater you're like, man, I just had an experience. Yeah, that was definitely that would qualify under like, well, that's an epic movie. But Pulp Fiction changed the game for years to come. And then Shawshank might be the most like rewatchable movie of all time. So it's tough. Those are all – I think that's a good Oscar race to kind of look back on, figure out where you stand just on cinema in general.
Starting point is 00:08:11 I mean, yeah, I loved – Pul – even though it was nominated for an Oscar, it's still just the way it was made. Yeah. And just stylistically, obviously that was kind of a trendsetter. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that soundtrack too. It's gospel. You know it's infectious when you remember the interludes on the thing that had the dialogue on it.
Starting point is 00:08:25 I'm like, yep, the soundtrack. Quiz Show also came out that year. Also a really great movie. Brought to you by Geritol. Yes. All right. And what's something you think is underrated? Well, sticking with the entertainment theme, it just started season three.
Starting point is 00:08:44 But I don't hear my friends talking about baskets oh baskets brilliant yeah it is so good it's so funny yeah it's so dark it's got so much heart yeah like it is really hard to be that funny and to have that much heart yeah yeah usually shows or movies that have a lot of heart like all right that's a little hacky right right right who gives a shit but like i mean they're just hitting it. They're just bullseye. I haven't started season three yet, but the first two, I got three episodes into the first season. I was like, how is everyone not saying this is one of the greatest shows that's out right
Starting point is 00:09:13 now? Yeah. I don't know why it, because it's crazy. Like it's exact Galifianakis is in it. And you feel like that would be enough for people to really like put all the praise on it or attention on it. But I don't know. But there's like a real sadness to it yeah there's like a sadness and yeah there's heart to it where it's so it's not just like him
Starting point is 00:09:31 you know i i think the stuff that he was doing and like the hangover and stuff like it also appealed to like bros oh yeah like stuff like that where uh baskets has you need a little emotional intelligence yeah i i agree it's it's at that weird cross-section where you know comedies don't get nominated for awards uh like we were talking about and this feels like a an actual piece of art that yeah you know especially louis anderson oh my god that is like the most underrated thing about that show like beyond the show being great but i feel like even louis man i can't it's it's amazing you totally forget or i totally forget that that's a dude that's louis yeah like his vibe it's just so much like yeah the crazy sweet old grandmother type who loves kirkland signature everything yeah
Starting point is 00:10:15 loves arby's yeah hey speaking of oscars real quick i just wanted to not to change gears but i loved get out is that a comedy i know it didn't get nominated for no that's oscars but the whole reason that happened is because the golden globes it was nominated for comedy musical and that's only because studios with the golden globes they have the option to submit a film under a specific category so they clearly saw that the dramatic film category was way too congested so it's the same thing with The Martian. Do you remember The Martian a few years ago? Was that a comedy? Nominated as a comedy?
Starting point is 00:10:47 Yeah, it was nominated as a comedy. I think Native won, actually. But yeah, that was like the studio doing that, not the press being like, oh, yeah, this is a comedy. And I know the argument is it's a very dark, satirical look at society, and you can say that. But I mean, personally, I don't view it as a comedy comedy. It's just like an amazing like
Starting point is 00:11:05 thriller when i get the loophole there but i've even read reviews where people reference the the comedy in it and i can't even think of the only comedic elements i can think of was his buddy who was right cat sitting or whatever you know he was funny yeah right but like there was really nothing funny about that movie yeah i don't think you walk out of that movie and go, fuck, man, Get Out was the funniest fucking movie I saw. Yeah. It's Rosemary's Baby. It's not – nobody thought Rosemary's Baby was a comedy. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:34 It's a complicated cultural text that I think different people have a difficult time figuring out how to react to for various reasons. Right. All right. We're trying to take a sample of what people are talking and thinking about right now, the zeitgeist, as it were. And we like to open up by asking our guest, what is a myth? What is something that most people believe to be true that is, in fact, false based on your experience?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Oh, man, that's a great question. Off the top of my head, just because people are starting to get them right now, this time of year, man, not to sound like some tinfoil hat nut job, but flu shots, I think that's a crock of – Oh, Jesus. I mean, I've never had a flu shot as an adult. I guess I had one when I was a kid or whatever. You had to, but as an adult, I've been on my own since I was 18.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I've never voluntarily went and had a flu shot, never had the flu. So I'm not exactly the picture of health either. And I think my boy, another side of the glass, Super Producer Nick Stumpf is also in camp, no flu. Right. Yeah, and just – I mean – and again, I don't want to sound like I'm going off the deep end with some of the conspiracy stuff. But I just don't – I'm not going to voluntarily let the government inject me with some – Oh, so your opposition is like I don't want to be voluntarily injected by whatever inoculation the government is trying to give me. I don't want that, and I don't think I need it.
Starting point is 00:12:56 My whole thing is you don't need it, but you're putting old people and babies at risk. So I married a doctor. I married an old baby. I married an old baby. She's like, don't put babies at risk. So I married a doctor. The only reason I know this, I married an old baby and she's like, don't put me always getting sick. No, but yeah. So basically this is a doctor's pet peeve because so adults think because they don't get the flu that flu shots don't do anything. And what the flu shot actually does is it protects you from being a carrier of it. And the flu doesn't actually like kill you or sometimes won't even make you sick. But you can pass it on to the elderly and young people.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That makes sense. So you don't express symptoms. Right. It's like herpes. Right. So that's – Some people are just lucky. They may be carrying it and they don't even know.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Right. Well, I guess – look. I don't know. I'm lazy. That's really my excuse. I'm not even like on some like the line letting the fucking man inject me with anything i'm just sort of like this is some more shit to do i don't have time like i view it as being like a anti-vaxxer light it's like
Starting point is 00:13:54 oh yeah so if you're if you're cool with like jenny mccarthy's politics and man don't put me in that fucking bucket that's that's the bucket you're in if you're anti-flu shit. Okay. All right. Well, then, you know what? I mean, my wife does secretly control my mind, and I'm definitely like there's some mind control shit. Speaking of that. I know, because you keep putting those fluoride drops in your coffee.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Right. That's right. All right. Let's get into the stories of the day. You guys, the doomsday clock gets closer to midnight. It is only two minutes away from midnight. It hasn't been this close to midnight since 1953. The clock is about to strike midnight.
Starting point is 00:14:31 We are all fucked. No, this actually means nothing. on their opinions, on things that they aren't necessarily overly qualified to comment on, such as global and international relations. Granted, things aren't great. I'm not here to tell you, like, leave Trump alone. He's doing a great job. But this is just a art project. It's a convenient news peg that, you peg that the Washington Post can be like, oh, they moved the clock again.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Time to rattle off the same story we've been putting out for the past 50 years. Wait, where did it start? The mid-Doomsday Clock thing? Because I always thought – I knew it wasn't a real thing, but for whatever reason, I was like, I guess I have to take it seriously. It has a lot of cred because it did start with the scientists from the Manhattan Project. So they basically put together this – I think it's like a magazine. It's essentially a publication that talks about threats to the human species based on nuclear weapons. And now in recent years, they've incorporated climate change uh
Starting point is 00:15:47 but it drug resistant flu right uh because of all those flu shots they just measure how many people are saying flu shots are a myth and then uh take that into account oh wait we just got update it is now midnight we are all fucked uh like other things they they definitely have an anti-nuclear bias when it comes to uh you know i think nuclear weapons are fine no uh when it comes to nuclear power like they think that's probably a little bit more dangerous than uh it actually is in practice um it seems like there's just an anti-nuclear bias when it comes to this publication. So I don't know. I just – this story –
Starting point is 00:16:28 So are you pro-nuclear everything? No, I'm not pro-nuclear everything. But I do think there are different stories from history about nuclear power plant meltdowns that were somewhat exaggerated. And I don't know. Like obviously Chernobyl. Like it can go really, really badly and has in a few instances. Chernobyl is a real thing? Yeah, Chernobyl.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Oh, man. I thought it was that one level in Call of Duty. Right. Yeah. Damn, that's deep. Right. Okay. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So yeah, maybe I'll look into this. Was it ever in a movie or something too? I don't know. It seems like it should be. Yeah. Or maybe I'm confusing it with uh michael scott's uh script threat level midnight which is probably some form of a derivation on that right now in some news that does seem to be bringing us closer to some form of sci-fi dystopia uh So there's a Reddit user named Deepfakes, who last year started making porn videos that had famous actresses' faces swapped onto the porn actor's body. And he has since created a subreddit where people are sharing these videos and it's like using algorithmic learning to, you know, swap faces of, you know, actresses onto porn stars.
Starting point is 00:17:54 But it seems like the sort of thing that, you know, we've talked before on the show about how pornography generally is like at the forefront of technology. And this is probably another instance of that where, yes, the first thing we use this technology for is making pornography with Gal Gadot's face on a porn star's body. But eventually this is going to cause the entire meltdown of society because... Whoa! Yo, I'm sorry. I did not know what this looked like. caused the entire meltdown of society because... Whoa! Yo, I'm sorry. I did not know what this looked like.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So I'm sorry I interjected suddenly. I was like, what the hell just happened? I did not see that this... Yo, this is scary. It's very realistic. It's very, very subtle. It's not like back in the day When I was looking at Spice Girl fake nudes As a young teenager on Sublime Directory
Starting point is 00:18:49 Right This is like This is whoa Okay hold on I don't even know how to show something That like doesn't get us all sued Right Yeah people can check it out in their own time
Starting point is 00:18:59 We were also watching a video This is supposed to be Kristen Bell Oh Jesus But like That does look like Kristen Bell? Oh, Jesus. Well, like, that's pretty. Those look like Kristen Bell. So they're just using, like, celebrity still images. Right. And then using these, like, algorithms to just project to face swap them out.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Right. Wow. Kind of like they did with Tony Soprano's mom in season three. Yeah, but that was terrible. Yeah, it was. She looked like the conductor on Polar Express. She had, like, those dead eyes. It was like, yo. Oh my god, yeah. That was so bad. Man, rest in peace.
Starting point is 00:19:31 But yeah, that Kristen Bell video that Miles just showed the room and will eventually be fired for. Thank you. realistic looking um and yeah i mean there's a video went around i think late last year that had obama saying different things like they had audio from obama saying something when he was like 16 or something or probably older than that uh and then they just like swapped it so that his face as the president was saying that and it you know looked completely realistic and um eventually this is going to change how like we won't be able to have videos like the access hollywood video of trump you know talking his shit without people being like oh it's a fake video well say he was saying it was fake so maybe trump is time traveling well yeah he's like you don't know what i've seen his problem was that he didn't say it was fake until a year later he spent a year
Starting point is 00:20:30 saying it was real uh billy bush was like yeah i know it's real and then after a year he was like you know that video might have been fake he probably saw that obama video right hey can i say it's fake and then billy bush was like yo that was but that's scary yeah if you haven't even seen that like they basically have photoshop for your, you know, and like combining that with this kind of machine learning. I mean, I don't want to predict this, but I'm sure at one point there will be some kind of massive hoax that like is very, very troubling because people are going to like this software get very sophisticated and you're going to think you're seeing somebody saying or doing something that they absolutely didn't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Our writer, Sam Raubman, uh, quote, an expert from the electronic frontiers foundation who said, uh, you can make fake videos with neural networks
Starting point is 00:21:14 today, but people will be able to tell that you've done that if you look closely and some of the techniques involved remain pretty advanced. So like it's hard to do, but that's not going to stay true for more than a year or two. So in a year or two, like around the next election, there's going to be the ability for everybody. Like you won't need to be an expert. Right. It's like,
Starting point is 00:21:36 look, Bernie smoking crack. Right. A lot of explaining to do. Yes. So. Hey, but that could work in the other way too,
Starting point is 00:21:44 because we, people can make wild fucking videos of Trump doing weird shit, too. So it'll probably just be a very fun smear campaign for everybody. The difficulty is there probably are wild videos of Trump. For instance, there's supposedly this video out there from the set of The Apprentice where he would just say wildly racist things during the taping of The Apprentice. Like the desk parts, like in the boardroom and shit? Yeah, in the boardroom, just like in between shots. And those videos, those audio tapes exist somewhere. But by the time they get released, he'll be able to be like, those are fake.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Not me. Fake news. Wow. Yeah. All right. We're going to take take a quick break and we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a proposal for you Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110.
Starting point is 00:22:53 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare.
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Starting point is 00:23:27 Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds, Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared. And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. My reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes. We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest
Starting point is 00:24:22 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
Starting point is 00:24:58 One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And you guys, I've been binging for the past couple of days.
Starting point is 00:26:38 On heroin. And I am just feeling great, actually. Yeah, you look great. Yeah, thank you. I feel on top of the world. Feeling great, actually. Yeah, you look great. Yeah, thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:44 I feel on top of the world. Now, I've been binging this podcast, Slow Burn, that is from Slate Media, and it's about the Watergate, like basically the unfolding of the Watergate news story, which I knew the basics of the Watergate story, but this basically looks back at news stories as they were happening and, you know, audio from the story as they were happening and talks to people who were there about like what the experience was like as lived, because it's really easy to look back at huge news stories and be like, well, that was, you know, a big deal. It was momentous when those burglars were caught. But when the seven people were arraigned in a courtroom in D.C. the day after they were caught breaking into the Democratic National Headquarters with tape recording material and bugging material, the only reason Bob Woodard was there was because he was covering the local
Starting point is 00:27:45 news desk and like picked it up on a police blotter like nobody covered it for the first few months and even the washington post which was like on the trail was widely believed to be just doing a liberal hatchet job on nixon nobody believed that nixon had anything to do with it. Yeah, they basically thought that because most of the story, like it happened months before the election. So a lot of the reporting on it, people thought was them trying to help McGovern, the guy that Nixon was running against. Didn't Forrest Gump snitch on them? Yes. Yeah. Good old boy from Bayou La Batry.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Right. That wasn't that. Yeah. Didn't he? Wasn't he like looking across because like nixon's like you stay at the walker gate and then he saw the people with the flashlights some men with some flashlights yeah all right well anyway forest gump we can't escape him the reason that they actually got caught is they kept taping the door handle so that it wouldn't lock behind them and like the security guard was like weird that's weird there's tape there. And then he came back by for his next round, and there was tape there again. He was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:28:51 They were just bad at their job, even though one of them was a CIA agent. Oh, really? What were they looking for specifically? So they weren't looking for anything. They were changing out surveillance material. They were tapping the Democratic National Committee. So the other thing that I hadn't fully appreciated. So Nixon ends up winning that next election that he was tapping them like in preparation for in a landslide by
Starting point is 00:29:18 like, I think, 23 percentage points in the overall vote. McGovern won a single state. So it was just this like all out ass kicking. And I had always taken it as Nixon was this like crazy paranoid guy who did this despite the fact that he was going to win regardless. Like there was no stopping him, obviously, because of how much he won by. So he wanted McGovern to win the Democratic primary because he knew he would destroy him. McGovern had like he was sort of the Bernie of his day, but even less broad support. And his legacy still haunts Democrats today. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:54 The McGovern effect. Right. Don't go too far left now. Right. And so he wanted McGovern to come out of the primary. The guy who was favored and who Nixon really didn't want was this guy, Ed Muskie from Maine. And the reason Ed Muskie didn't win, and he was like definitely more centrist and had a much better shot at beating Nixon. The reason he didn't win is because the Nixon campaign, the committee to reelect the president, which was acronymed as creep.
Starting point is 00:30:23 The reason that Muskie didn't win was because the nixon campaign like fucked with them they did like all sorts of you know shady shit in addition to you know tapping the dnc headquarters and like knowing everything they were about to do before they did it uh they would like go through the hotel hallway of where the musky campaign was staying. And, you know, back then you left your shoes out to be shined by the hotel. They would just pick up all their shoes and throw them in a dumpster. And like, so the guys would just like not have shoes the next day and be late for shit. The night before the New Hampshire primary, they called like everyone in New Hampshire at midnight as
Starting point is 00:31:07 and like spoke with black sense and talked to the people about how Ed Muskie was going to like help bring black people like rights back and stuff that they knew would scare white New Hampshire white new hampshire voters and it was successful um in the election and then they sent a letter to the editor in a new hampshire newspaper that was like really shady and like talked shit about his wife being like a loose woman who like you know smoked cigarettes and was like one lady like and uh just like really shady shit and so musky like uh was so pissed he had a press conference where he was like i if that coward publisher was next to me he or like he should be glad he's not next to me because i kick his ass like and then he like broke down crying because they had like so much and so that like the guy who would have had a shot against Nixon, he like psychologically fucked with until he broke down in front of people. And that's like why he ended up running against McGovern, who was the worst possible candidate for the Democrats to run. And Nixon knew it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And then the other thing that is just interesting, I mean, there are a lot of interesting parallels. Like during the course of the way to the top when the guys were arrested. And so he put together an investigation. They had all the leads that were in Bernstein head and Republicans in the Nixon administration successfully shut it down by just like some bullshit excuse saying that like it wouldn't be fair to the seven robbers because their case was still being prosecuted. And then there was like a Senate hearing that Republicans tried to like make about all the things that like Democrats did that were like unfair to Republicans. What about isms? Right. Exactly. What about isms? The only reason that Watergate ended up becoming a thing is because the head of that Senate committee was like this respected Democrat who was also sort of a conservative racist.
Starting point is 00:33:33 And so he had like both sides kind of supporting him. And he was able to keep it on track and like block the Republicans from making it about, you know, what about this? Well, they also did that. So like aggressively just pivoting away from like the facts of like, well, there's all this. I'm like, oh, can I talk about something the Democrats did? Right. So there's a lot of details that, you know, as it's happening, people there's also a episode about people who are standing by Nixon, like during the investigation are like the liberal media is just trying to take him down. Like he just wants to like, you know, be the law and order president was there. His term for, you know, basically being racist and a lot of, you knowar working-class people, white people were all about that and thought that the whole Watergate investigation was just a conspiracy cooked up by the left-wing media.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And then they thought that until the facts became too much. So it's interesting to see as somebody at the time would have viewed it and wonder how like the modern climate would have reacted to some of these things. Like, is there a possibility that something in the Russia investigation could be too much for Trump supporters to ignore? You know, here's a dumb question. Was Gerald Ford Nixon's vice president? His vice president for most of the time was Spiro Agnew, but he got caught up in the whole scandal and had to resign. And then Gerald Ford took over. But Ford like pops up a couple of times in the story of Watergate, just kind of being a an apologist for Nixon, but, you know, being a little bit more outside of the Nixon administration than some of the other people who got taken down. So speaking of, you know, our present day Watergate, there's been not not that many developments, but a couple, right?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Trump yesterday said he's willing to talk to Mueller under oath. Under oath. He was leaving John Kelly's office and there were some reporters out there and they caught him with a little impromptu, little back and forth conversation with the press where he clearly just was freestyling, doing Trump jazz, which is very frightening to all his handlers because you don't know what tune he's going to play. And yeah, when he was asked about the Mueller investigation, he's like, oh, yeah, I'll speak to them. I'll speak to them under oath. Yeah. He's like, I'll speak to FBI under oath. Clearly, there's a couple of things he's mistaking here.
Starting point is 00:36:20 First, I think he just doesn't know what testify under oath means, that you can't fucking lie. First, I think he just doesn't know what testify under oath means, that you can't fucking lie. But also that there's even a distinction of being under oath and lying versus lying to the FBI. There are still felonies. There's just different statutes. So you cannot lie to the FBI even if you're not under oath. And if you were under oath, that means you would be probably most likely in this case in front of a grand jury. So I don't think he wants to be in front of a grand jury with like Bob Mueller, who's a very seasoned prosecutor, like asking the questions, because as we know, I don't even know
Starting point is 00:36:50 if this guy can keep his facts straight. It's like in his own head. Right. So like, and you think about to like the amount of preparation, like Trump's lawyers would have to do just to be like, okay, if the line of questioning goes this way, like this is what we're doing. He doesn't even have the mental bandwidth to be like, okay so if he starts talking about george papadopoulos like we're gonna do this nah i think he's just gonna say whatever the fuck he wants and it could be a real problem um the other thing is that like i think right after ty cobb was having to like just clean up the mess and was like oh he said all that in a very hurried state so you know what we don't know that's not exactly what we want to do so it was basically a very odd moment. And then along with that, he also kind of made reference to
Starting point is 00:37:31 that he thought of a path to citizenship for some of the people under DACA, like 10 to 12 years. I mean, I think that's probably most likely coming out of the immigration plan that he's going to unveil Monday. But really, I think what was interesting is just the fact that he was kept talking. He was like, well, I bet Hillary wasn't under oath with the FBI or whatever. Like he's still obsessed with her. That I'm sure if you, if Robert Mueller was just like, you know, Obama and Hillary Clinton had some of the best relationships with the Russians. I don't know if you knew that, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:38:02 He was like, oh yeah, well, I'm actually, I've been talking to them since 2013 about me becoming president. Like, I feel like you could bait him into just coming clean with it if you just use this Obama and Hillary comparison because he is fucking obsessed still. So it will be very, very interesting. And I think along with what you're saying, like there's been a lot of obstructionist sort of what abouting and all kinds of straight up conspiracy bullshit that's been happening with the GOP trying to discredit the FBI because the FBI clearly has a lot of information that could be very troubling for Donald Trump. Like namely there was the whole release the memo thing where like Devin Nunes like I got this memo that has all that I wrote that's like telling you about all the crazy shit
Starting point is 00:38:43 the FBI is doing and everyone's like release the memo and he's like well okay i'll only show it to house republicans and then like senate republicans are like like the senate intelligence committee was like hey can we see it and he was like nah nah and then like basically he was only going to show it to people who didn't have the same intelligence information he did to be able to be like dude this is all wrong right i'm i've seen the same things you've seen and you can't draw these conclusions from that shit. So it was so transparent that now he's kind of like totally backpedaling on releasing the memo, which makes sense because it was just a fucking weird distraction the whole
Starting point is 00:39:17 time. Yeah. A distraction from the fact that there was a secret society. Yeah. So Republican Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, i believe uh came out and pointed out that there was a text message i believe yeah where one fbi agent talked to the other about having a secret society meeting yeah and so therefore ergo uh they are probably had a secret anti-trump society where they were planning the takedown of the White House.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Over the government. It's all happening. So here's Ron Johnson being questioned about that on NPR, because when you see the entire context of that text message, it appears that they were saying that completely in jest. Yeah, absolutely. We're saying that completely in jest. Yeah, absolutely. It was the day after Trump was voted, like won the election. And they were like, I guess we'll have to have a secret society meeting. And they just went secret.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Oh, here we go. Yeah. Comet pizza. Right. So today he was or maybe earlier this morning, he was on NPR, asked about these comments that he made to Brett Baier. So first, let's just hear when johnson came out swinging with the secret society shit we have we have an informant that's talking about a group that were holding secret meetings off-site there's there's so much smoke here there's so much suspicion let's let's stop there
Starting point is 00:40:35 a secret society the secret meetings off-site of the justice department correct and you have an informant saying that yes is. Is there anything more about that? No, we have to dig into it. No, but I mean, that's enough said. The way he said yes. And you have two informants? Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:54 Yeah. So, yeah, then NPR was like, hey, do you know that? That was like a joke, right? Right. That was based on a text. Yeah, so this is him talking to someone that isn't on Fox News. Right. Okay, well, you also focused on two words from Yeah, so this is him talking to someone that isn't on Fox News. Right. Okay, well, you also focused on two words from one of the texts, which was a secret society.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I didn't. Other people brought that up. You suggested this might mean a secret group within the FBI holding meetings off-site, and you went on to say this could mean corruption at the highest levels of the FBI. Now, that reference may have been a joke. I'm just wondering if you feel you might have jumped to conclusions here. No, all I was connecting is we,
Starting point is 00:41:29 you know, I have all kinds of people come in our, to our, in front of our committee, giving us information. And I had heard that there were offsite meetings. So I was just connecting the dots there. It could be a joke.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Those offsite meetings could be completely harmless. Oh, wow. He didn't mention on fox fucking sticking your fucking chest out on fox we're like fucking secret societies right and there's like oh i mean yeah like they could be a joke we could be harmless and right but that was like months later right what oh wait no no that interview was the next day right uh so absolutely nothing had changed and the other thing too i just want to bring up like
Starting point is 00:42:04 with trump how quickly it was so transparent he is something to hide when asked, like, will you speak to Robert Mueller? He's like, oh, I'll go under oath. Right. Like really, really bluffing there. Yeah. You know? And then the second that his lawyers talked to him, he's like, well, my lawyers will have to lawyer. Yeah, well, my attorneys.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Maybe I shouldn't do it. I don't know. I can't imagine him. If Trump is able to actually pull off not fully melting down in front of Robert Mueller and self-perjuring himself, like then maybe I'll believe that he has some kind of there is some hidden mental capacity in there. Yeah. Because in my mind, the way this would play out was him just thinking he's talking to somebody that like is under him right and he can just say whatever the fuck he wants to without like understanding that he is still this is a like criminal thing this is like a hey like you didn't you didn't wire my unit in your building for electricity blah blah blah like this is like criminal shit. Like, this is a very different matter.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Roger Stone, one of Trump's oldest and strongest advocates, who also has a tattoo of Richard Nixon on his back, because that's the kind of guy he is. No, he doesn't. Yeah, he does. He does? Yeah. Yeah. Of Nixon's face. I think he just thinks he's handsome.
Starting point is 00:43:22 That's all. Probably has nothing to do with his politics. But he, any relation, by the way? No. no roger stone no not that i'm aware of um anyways he has said for a while now that trump going in front of muller and just like having a conversation with muller would be a quote suicide mission like he he knows trump well enough to be like yeah no that's my friend he's not smart enough to handle be like yeah no that's my friend she's not smart enough to handle this like that would not be good we we should not let that happen um so yeah because he's being the his handlers this is the double-edged sword of having all these
Starting point is 00:43:56 sycophants around you because they are gaslighting him into thinking everything's okay everything's going to be okay and this isn't really a problem right yeah i called it our watergate earlier you know that it could entirely turn out to be just him fucking himself by not being bright or honest enough to like handle the questioning and it might not be a thing where he was you know actually gaining all that much of an advantage from his – any connection to Russia. Yeah, or if it's the obstruction charge too because that was another interesting thing he said yesterday because the first time he used the word obstruction. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:34 Because normally he's like, there's no collusion, no collusion, no collusion. And then yesterday he's like, there's no collusion whatsoever. There's no obstruction whatsoever. So clearly someone tipped him off like, you know, there's another thing that you might need to be worried about is the fact that you may have obstructed justice when you fire James Comey. Right. He said, is it obstruction for me to fight back and fight back against this,
Starting point is 00:44:55 uh, investigation? Yeah. It's like, and yeah, it's like, yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah. Dude. How was that? Not obstruction. He's working out the definition of obstruction, like in public for all of us to see. Oh, what I can't do by any means necessary to get the heat off my friends. Right. So stay tuned.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Stay tuned. But in true Trump fashion, like, oh, when do you think you'll meet with him? And we all know what the preloaded answer for any duration of time with him. Two to three weeks. Right. Everything is two to three weeks with him. So that was probably a total lie too. The other big difference, I'm pretty sure the Democrats held at least one of the houses at the time of the Watergate investigation.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And they are kind of completely powerless. holding my breath for anything interesting to happen with this investigation or with Trump's, you know, actual job status until that changes. But we shall see. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do.
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Starting point is 00:46:28 What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised $150,000 in prizes to four finalists. But the prizes disappeared.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And what started as a video game promotion became one of the most controversial moments in 80s pop culture. I just don't believe they exist. I mean, my reaction, shock and awe. That sword was amazing. It was so beautiful. I'm Jamie Loftus. Join me this spring for The Legend of Sword Quest, a podcast about the fall of Atari and the disappearing Sword Quest prizes.
Starting point is 00:47:40 We'll follow the quest for lost treasure across four decades. It's almost like a metaphor for the industry and Atari itself in a way. Listen to The Legend of Sword Quest on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president.
Starting point is 00:48:25 One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current, available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation.
Starting point is 00:49:06 KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila!
Starting point is 00:49:46 You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're just looking at Roger Stone's back. Dave actually told us it's actually his dad. Yeah. He didn't.
Starting point is 00:50:08 He put him in an awkward position. Wait, he looks like, you know when you fly in the magazine that's in the front pocket of the thing, and there's always that one old-ass doctor who's like, I look like I'm 26 years old. There's like shirt off. That's like what Roger Stone's physique is like. Like that weird airplane magazine buff doctor. Yo, of course that's Trump's best friend. Yeah, there's a picture of him shirtless smoking a cigar.
Starting point is 00:50:32 He's definitely HGHing up. It's funny. The other elderly conservative who loves to be photographed with his shirt off is the Dilbert guy, Scott Adams. And he doesn't look that good. the Dilbert guy, Scott Adams, and he doesn't look that good. He's like, yeah, well, do you think a 55-year-old would look like this? And it's like, yeah, that's about what a 55-year-old
Starting point is 00:50:53 who works out would look like. But anyways, fuck Scott Adams. This little nerd. Yeah. Dude, Scott Adams is fascinating. He, at a certain point lost his voice. Not like a physical thing happened. He just stopped being able to speak.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Like a neurological thing? Yes. Or, I don't know. Like, nobody has explained it, really. He just, like, stopped talking. He's a very strange guy. He also, his house is built to be shaped like Dilbert's head. It is? Yeah. No, Scott Adamsams is we should just do maybe we should do a whole week on scott adams dilbert week dilbert
Starting point is 00:51:32 week but first uh before any of that we need to talk about what's going on in russia right now yeah they are trying to you know take down our democracy. Right. That and they're also filming some pre-dope viral videos. Oh. So, you know, we generally the image of Russia that we get is that everybody is loyal to Putin and it's this, you know, a bunch of hackers doing the bidding of their iron fisted leader. know, a bunch of hackers doing the bidding of their iron fisted leader. And, you know, another thing that we hear about is how homophobic Russia is. I know people who visited there, who, you know, it was a Friday night and Putin's biker gang, who like is like secretly his paramilitary force
Starting point is 00:52:21 was going around like rounding up and beating up gay people in Russia, just like that's how publicly homophobic the culture is over there. Well, apparently, like they don't get buy in on that culture from all generations. And, you know, younger Russians are actually sane and they're like, well, this is crazy. And so a group of flight students at Russian Pilot College, Aviation College, the Ulyanovsk Institute of Civil Aviation filmed themselves as like a bunch of dudes in their underwear, like twerking. And one dude was like deep throating a banana over and over again roading like a shit out of a champ um and uh it went viral immediately and you know the public outcry from the you know totally not state-controlled media was like these people
Starting point is 00:53:25 should be ashamed of themselves they're a disgrace to the aviation industry but then like and they were the same like they're probably gay right but then all these other colleges started filming their own version of this video and like so now this is like the hot shit to do in russian college it's a new harlem shake right it's the harlem shake of russian colleges which by the way uh i i suggest you watch them just because they're fun videos but also because uh you get a image of like what russian college looks like at least this dorm yeah the dorm of the nearby agricultural college that uploaded the second twerking video looks like a like haunted abandoned hospital. It looks like the set of The Ring. It really does.
Starting point is 00:54:13 It's like, damn, that's that's college in Russia. But it's just wild, though, to like, you know, because like they were wearing like bondage outfits, like a couple of people had like gear that you're like, oh, OK, this might be your thing. But like the because Russia is so homophobic, like I can totally see why this kind of thing is going to happen, because it's treated as such a taboo, such a taboo that suddenly you get all these dudes together. Like the one where the guys like rubbing each other with shaving cream, like some of the videos do a really funny job of like escalating like how homoerotic the behavior is yeah yeah just shout outs to you guys doing your thing seriously young men figuring it out having a good time i'm always amused by like frat boy culture like how far they're willing to take the joke yeah right yeah it's haha we're not gay yeah hey but yo kiss some more tongue though man that guy's dick yeah right exactly got him this is just so funny to me that it starts off being like this is unbelievable and then just spreads like you're like you know what we're gonna do
Starting point is 00:55:16 the satisfaction challenge memes in russia don't fuck around there is a uh a meme from probably like five to ten years ago that we covered on Cracked about like there was some photograph of a guy hanging out his window by one hand because the husband had just come home and like found him in bed. Oh, right. So that was like an actual photograph that got taken. And then like it became a meme to be photographed hanging out of windows like by one arm. And like that was like the cool, like fun meme to be taken. They're pretty, pretty hardcore. I will play with my life for the likes.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Exactly. And finally, so we don't hear much about cool sponsored content. Finally, so we don't hear much about cool sponsored content. In fact, the Intercept podcast today talked about how the brands are going directly to the Post or you know Fast Company and outlets like this that are just you know in the bulk publishing business um and you know then when you google like whether that product is good or not you go to you get the result of this article that looks for all intents and purposes like it's totally not sponsored. Wait, and don't they have to disclose that it's sponsored content?
Starting point is 00:56:48 Who? The journalist? The journalist? Yeah. I mean, ethically, yes, they should. But because journalists don't make any money. Like, because the Huffington Post was like, yeah, we don't pay our journalists. It's like, but we give them a great outlet for lots of people to see.
Starting point is 00:57:04 And they cut to every person who went to college. It was like, you know, I was in, I wrote for the Huffington Post. Right. And I'm in Wikipedia, bro. Yeah. So that's an example of bad sponsored content. But Burger King just created a video that I'm actually okay with. It's about net neutrality and it uses whoppers as a metaphor for, uh, net neutrality
Starting point is 00:57:27 and how net neutrality works. Yeah. Where basically like they had people who ordered whoppers, like wait 20 minutes for their whopper while other people were getting faster whoppers. And they were like, oh, they paid for the, uh, high speed whopper package. Right. And the guy's like, so there's like fast lanes for the food or something. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:47 And he's like, well, how much to get mine now? Uh, 25 99. And they're like, what? The amazing thing is like, there are a couple of people who, my favorite kind of person, someone who gets upset at a fast food restaurant, like at the people, this one guy, they're like, he's like, well, how long do I have to wait? He's like about 15, 20 minutes for the package you got. And he's like, he's like, well, how long do I have to wait? He's like, about 15, 20 minutes for the package you got. And he's like – he's like mimes like ripping his hair.
Starting point is 00:58:08 And he's like, I don't – this is not good. A few people, you get fucking pissed about hearing that their Whopper is not coming in time. Yeah, one guy says this is the worst thing I've ever heard of, which he apparently is a Holocaust denier or something. Because this is the worst thing I have ever heard of. Right. But it's a good video. I think it makes sense of what a world without net neutrality could look like. And it ends with a shot at our boy Ajit Pai, who at the very end of the video,
Starting point is 00:58:43 it has the king drinking out of an oversized Reese's peanut butter cup mug. His trademark bit. His trademark. Yeah. So Ajit Pai, for people who haven't listened to every single one of our episodes, is the FCC chairman who is basically killing net neutrality. But he fancies himself a comedian. But he fancies himself a comedian and his funny thing that he does is he brings out a coffee mug that is like – Joke size. Joke size.
Starting point is 00:59:10 It's like a huge coffee mug and he takes a sip out of it and is like – That's pretty funny. Yeah, it is funny. Yeah, he does it as a reveal. He'll come be talking at a podium like, yeah, blah, blah, blah, and then just be like – Look how big my coffee is. Yeah, man. Put it down like, damn, man.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Where – I'm glad prop comedy is back. I got some other ideas too. Yeah, man. Put it down like – Damn, man. Where – I'm glad prop comedy is back. I got some other ideas too. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's his giant one. All right. That is going to do it for today's show. Dave, it's been a blast having you, man. Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Yeah. Where can people find you, follow you? Twitter is at DaveStoneComedy. And yeah, Boogie Monster Podcast me and Cockaday new episodes every Tuesday and what's the show about?
Starting point is 00:59:49 it's supposed to be about conspiracy theories and paranormal and supernatural like Bigfoot aliens stuff like that but usually
Starting point is 00:59:56 we just wind up talking about fried chicken and domestic beer but yeah we attempt to tackle a new paranormal topic every week but sometimes we don't really get to it sometimes.
Starting point is 01:00:08 What's your favorite chicken product that is made by, like, a national chain for our national list? Well, first of all, I won't get into my disdain for – I talk about conspiracies, how, like, Big Chicken is trying to convince us that white meat chicken is somehow premium. I'm a dark meat guy. Thank you. The leg and the thigh, that's where it's at. This whole all white meat chicken is somehow premium. I'm a dark meat guy. Thank you. The leg and the thigh, that's where it's at. This whole all white meat chicken. Who gives a shit? It gets dry.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Dry as shit. Take your dry-ass hormone-ridden breast elsewhere. That's a weird sentence to say. But I'm a big Popeyes guy around here. They don't have it out here, but in the southeast where I'm from, there's a regional chain called Bojangles. Bojangles is insane. Really good. The chicken's good. Biscuits, breakfast all day. You like Zaxby's?
Starting point is 01:00:52 Zaxby's is solid. Yeah, I like Zaxby's. Yeah, around here, probably Popeye's as far as national stuff. See, I took his outro into a whole chicken conversation because I love food. Yeah, me too. People need to know. People have to know. Miles where can people
Starting point is 01:01:06 follow you. I might be following Dave to fucking Halloween. The wait is under an hour. I have nightmares about that place because I
Starting point is 01:01:15 want it so bad but everyone I know has to go for hours. Have you been. No I have not. And I just everyone comes back like it's worth it man.
Starting point is 01:01:22 They look like they saw God. Yeah. But anyway if you're interested in social media you can just find me comes back and like, it's worth it, man. They look like they saw God. So good. It's really good. But anyway, yeah, if you're interested in social media, you can just find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. You can follow me at Jack underscore O-B-R-I-E-N. You can follow us at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We are at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.
Starting point is 01:01:40 We have a Facebook fan page. You know how search boxes work. Just type the name of our show and you'll find us. And we have a website, dailyzzyguys.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to articles and other source material that we used for research for this episode.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And that is going to do it for today's show. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before,
Starting point is 01:02:23 try to assassinate the president of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
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Starting point is 01:03:49 you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. What happens when a professional football player's career ends and the applause fades and the screaming fans move on? I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. For some former NFL players, a new faith provides answers. You mix homesteading with guns and church. Voila! You got straight away. They try to save everybody. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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