The Daily Zeitgeist - The Smoking Saw, Shop Til THEY Drop 12.5.18

Episode Date: December 5, 2018

In episode 287, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and frequent podcast guest Jamie Loftus to discuss a dating app for the right, how Netflix figuring out how to keep Friends on their streaming service, the White House correcting Trump's comments on the trade wars with China, how Robert Mueller is recommending little to none jail time for Michael Flynn, the Senate agreeing that MBS is behind Jamal Khashoggi's murder, the hacking of the GOP, pregnant women being discriminated against to the point of miscarrying in packing factories, a writer getting death threats over their critique of Ariana Grande's new music video, Sarah Hyland being attacked on Twitter for posting a GoFundMe page for her cousin's death, Kevin Hart stepping up to host the Oscars, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Righter: The Dating Site for Those Who Can’t Get Laid Because of Their Love of Trump2. Netflix Will Keep ‘Friends’ Through Next Year in a $100 Million Agreement3. White House corrects top aide on China negotiations timeline4. Mueller Recommends No Prison Time For Flynn After His ‘Substantial’ Help5. Saudi crown prince exchanged messages with aide alleged to have overseen Khashoggi killing6. Khashoggi mystery fixes spotlight on Saudi official described as crown prince’s strategist, enforcer7. GOP senators come out and say it: The Trump administration is covering up Khashoggi’s killing8. Exclusive: Emails of top NRCC officials stolen in major 2018 hack9. Miscarrying at Work: The Physical Toll of Pregnancy Discrimination10. LGBT Site Writer Calls Ariana Grande’s New Video ‘Anti-Queer,’ Removes Byline After ‘Death Threats’11. ‘Modern Family’ Star Sarah Hyland Calls Out People With ‘Negative Thoughts’ About Her Cousin’s Death: ‘How Dare You Attack’12. Why Oscar Host Has Become the Least Wanted Job in Hollywood13. Kevin Hart Confirms He’s Hosting the 2019 Academy Awards14. WATCH: Radiant Children - Go Left (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Daily Zeitgeist! The podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, what's trendle, what's trendling on Google and social needs. I was told that's not cool. Man, I disagree. It's Wednesday, December 5th, 2018. I was told it makes me sound old and not cool.

My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Check the Bio. I've lived in every town between Kentucky and Miami of Ohio. It's wild. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Well, you can tell by the way I use my moves. I'm a podcast host. No time to lose. Fresh and hot.

Second rate. Been DZ gang since I was eight. Well, it's all Miles. It's all gray. We're jacking and it holds me. Hey, we'll take a dive into the shit. Curses mess up the internet. Whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother,

your daily's a gang. Daily's a gang. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Daily's a gang. Ah, ah, ah, ah ice Wow. And that's been our episode, everyone. I had to channel Bloody Barry Gibb on that one, Mike. Thank you to Hannah Soltis for that.

We all know that was Stayin' Alive. Wait, you didn't write that? No. Much less impressed now. I never write my own AKs, you didn't write that? Oh, much less impressed now. I never write my own AKAs, man. Little secret. No, I meant the music. Oh, she's, no, yeah, that was Barry Gibb, right? The old Gibb family.

An original accompaniment. Well, I am thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Miles, not so much, but I am thrilled to be joined in our third seat by Lil Zam. Hi. Jamie Lawson. Hi. I'm good. How are you? I seat by Lil Zam. Hi. Jamie Lawson. What's up? Hi. I'm good.

How are you? I'm good. Good. Hey. I'm not used to seeing you guys when it's dark out. I know. I know. This is different.

Oh, the seasons do that. I got all worked up at work today. I got a nosebleed. Oh, man. Boy. I know. It's fun. Yeah.

What does your doctor say about those anger nozzles? Well, it's my... I've gotten them since I was little. It means that... Really? Yeah. Oh, doesn't that mean that you're telekinetic or something? Yeah, it means that I can read people's minds, and that's why I'm so angry.

Like 11? Oh, she has seven days to live. Oh, that means everyone has seven days to live. Oh, ever since the live show, wasn't there something that happened when we heard someone's phone was going to ring and we had seven days?? We had seven days to live and this would be the fifth of those seven days. I had an explosive nosebleed before one of my first trumpet recitals as a child.

No. Yeah, it was like insane. I used to- My face just fucking started to bleed. It was crazy. I used to pass out before oboe solos.

Oh. Hey, it's a lot of pressure. And that rhymes too. It's a lot. I got a nosebleed before like a meeting that I was nervous about like early in my career. Is there like nervous nosebleeds before a meeting that I was nervous about early in my career. Is there nervous nosebleeds?

I think it just indicates some loss of control. I'm sure all the cocaine, maybe. Headaches sometimes triggered by stress can also come from a nosebleed. If you tend to pick your nose or blow your nose frequently when you feel stressed or anxious, that could also trigger a nosebleed. Hypertension, high blood pressure has been suggested to trigger nosebleeds. All right. Yeah, I punched myself in the face before big meetings.

A power move. And then you violently pick it with your finger. Yeah, yeah. So stupid. So stupid. Pick your nose in the meeting. They'll take you serious. Jamie, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment,

but first we're telling our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're talking about the latest dating app for racists. We're talking about the quick cancellation of Friends on Netflix and then bring it right back. We're going to talk a bunch of Trump developments. And once again, we're going to talk about the conditions in packing factories, which we have promised to talk about multiple times and forgot to cut it out. Oh, I thought you were going to talk about Ariana Grande again.

We will. Don't worry. Okay, good. Yeah, the internet isn't having a great week. We'll get to that. But first, we'd like to ask our guest, Jamie, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Christmas dogs.

Christmas dogs. I forgot what a reindeer was. Is that true? Yes. That's amazing. At work. And it came up? What are those Christmas dogs called?

No, you got to look up Christmas dog. Usually, first, if you search Christmas dogs, it's just dogs in Santa hats. If you search Christmas dogs horns, then reindeer. Not Christmas horse? Something slightly closer to the animal kingdom? Really big dogs. What are those Christmas horns? But you've always been more into dog racing than horse racing. You're always down at the dog track. something slightly closer to the animal kingdom really big dogs what is Christmas but you've always been

more into dog racing than horse racing you're always down at the dog track it's true but you're more into horse fighting than you are dog fighting

I love horse fighting I mean what are horses but large dogs what is something you think is overrated oh a Christmas Prince on Netflix oh no shit

not the sequel I haven't seen the sequel. Oh, Royal Wedding? I haven't seen Royal Wedding. Oh, I just watched that two nights ago. You did? Okay, so I watched it. We just did it for Bechdelcast.

Spoiler alert. And I loved so much of it, but there were so many elements of Aldovia that were a little fashy to me. I think that Aldovia may be an alt-right country, but I do love that they seem to be ruled by a king who left his laws in large ornaments. Right.

But over, I was disappointed. I felt left in large. Wasn't there like one Asian person in that parliament scene too? I remember just being like, what is that? Guys, what the fuck is a Christmas Prince? It's on Netflix. Oh,

it's on Netflix. It's a Kurt Russell one. No, that's a Christmas something else. It's like a movie that I have to assume was pitched to Hallmark and they said no. And they make 400 Christmas movies a year. Right. It's about,

it's basically the princess diaries, but Christmas. Oh, right. But it follows the same sort of format of busy city woman travels to this place and a man tells her to chill the fuck out. It's not Genovia, it's Aldovia. The twist, I mean, there are twists. She brings a child with brittle bones onto a sled.

She gets attacked by a wolf. But yeah. Is it in the Unbreakable universe? It is, it is. Absolutely, yeah. She grows up to be Mr. Glass. She becomes African American and then becomes Mr. Glass. So Aldovia is a fictionalized nation that she visits and meets the prince of Aldovia and he teaches her a thing or two about Christmas.

Well, his power's at stake. There's a whole power struggle going on. It's one of those arbitrary ticking clock stories where it's like if he doesn't take over by Christmas, the country will cease to exist. So it's a real Casablanca thing where the setting is just as important as the love story. Oh yeah, Aldovi is a character.

The crazy thing for me is the takeaway of that movie, because she's playing a journalist, but the takeaway of that is she's writing an article that's critical of a very powerful person. But her lesson is like, actually, if you're someone in the media being critical of a powerful person,

you're probably wrong and you should actually sleep with them. Right. Get to know them a little bit better. Yeah. You might, you just may. You might get horny. What if you saw things from Trump's perspective, though?

Give him a little kiss. Maggie Haberman. I have caught. Ooh. I had a visceral reaction to the image of that. Did we already do underrated? No, but it's, of course, Santa University. Oh.

It's coming up. Now, for the poor, poor souls who have no idea about Santa University. For newer members of the Zeitgeist, Santa University is, I mean, if it happens twice it's a holiday tradition. It's my unfinished screenplay that I've been working on for, this will be the sixth Christmas. It's about a university full of

Santas. 40,000 Santas begin and one leaves. 39,999 die. Battle Royale sort of thing. Yes. Miles plays Dan Santa, the lead. Dan Santa.

Jack, you played like a million parts last year. It was sort of like the Phil Hartman of San Diego University. Wow. I've always thought of myself. A utility player. Yeah. With a bigger Coke problem. Yeah.

It's always underrated because it still hasn't been produced or finished. Yeah. And then this year, one more go then? Oh, yeah. We're going to keep going. I've added characters. I have not yet figured out how it ends. Right.

Because Robert Evans, when he was in yesterday, he was like, yeah, I'm going to be doing Santa University. I was like, I didn't hear about this. And then I just sat silently. Robert has been texting me almost every day of like, just checking on the date. Do we got a date? Got to lock it in. He's like building his life around it.

I'm thrilled. That's fantastic. Well, he respects the art. Yes, and I appreciate that. And by the way, Phil Hartman did not have a coke problem. It was his wife who Andy Dick got hooked on. Back onto coke. Back onto coke when she was in recovery.

And then she ended up murdering Merti Suey. Isn't that why John Lovitz tried to fight him at that club a few years ago? I don't know. Really? Yeah, I remember like- Oh, that would be fun. I know a lot of people who were friends with Phil Hartman never forgave Andy Dick. Well, nor should they have.

Anyway, so that's our show. I'm going to go back to the corner. Jamie, what is a myth? What is something people think is true? You know, W.A. Paul. If you love what you do, you never work a day in your life. Yeah, fuck that. It's not true. You still probably work quite hard

with people you don't always like. Anyways, I gave myself a nosebleed today. Yeah, cool. Doing what you love, having nosebleeds. Doing what I love. I was living my dream today and I absolutely gave myself a stress nosebleed. I don't think it actually makes your life any easier

because you end up working really hard. It just makes you better at your job. Sure. Yeah, yeah. You take it more seriously. Yeah.

And you just put every ounce of yourself. Like when I worked at the coach store, I was living on cloud fucking nine. Right. Because I didn't give a fuck.

Just working retail. There is something to be said for like a nihilist existence for brief periods of time. Oh, yeah. Not a lifestyle, but a few months of nihilism. I was the only male employee at that code store. And I was basically seen as the one person that all my other coworkers could talk shit to about each other. Because they felt I couldn't possibly have picked a side.

It was stressful, though. Because I knew everyone was fucking tea. It was ridiculous. Being a gossip receptacle is a wild experience. I just have one of those. People like to talk to me. What can I say? Brag.

All right, guys. We're going to get into the stories of the day. There is yet another dating app meant exclusively for those under-sexed Republicans. Apparently, yet another Republican was out with somebody they found attractive. Dude, the story in the Daily Beast about this app is so funny. So there was one that already failed, remember?

And it dumped all the user data suddenly and everyone's information was half compromised. So this one was about a beautiful Trump supporter. So this woman, Christy Edwards-Lottton, was at – this is how it goes. Christy Edwards-Lawton was at a Manhattan party last year when she noticed a beautiful woman across the room. The woman who had, quote, stunning good looks, according to Lawton, seemed like someone who would have no trouble finding love. But she also had a surprising secret. She couldn't find a boyfriend in New York City because she voted for Trump.

I'm a Republican, the woman whispered a lot and she recalled, they don't want me. And hence her billion dollar idea, which is not a billion dollar idea, just an idea to start the dating app for Trump supporters called Writer. R-I-G-H-T-E. Oh, right. Writer. Like right-handed. But like ride the right? Is that the thing? No, just it's like right plus ER. I mean, I think you've already come up with a better idea. Ride the alt right. That's upsetting.

Yeah. But also that story is very compelling. Yeah. You can hear the little pop of a million racist boners. Yeah. Oh, God, where's she? What? I'm having the same problem.

It's also almost definitely completely made up based on the wildly unrealistic dialogue of, they don't want me. Or even the beginning when you say, you were at a Manhattan party? What the fuck is that? Yeah, it's a party that happens in the borough of Manhattan. Ever freaking heard of it?

Isn't that Jacob Wohl's construction of always hearing hipsters, coffee shops whispering? Within Manhattan's party scene. Yeah, writer users can't hide their age and the app will be policed for photoshopped pictures added to make a would-be dater look better. And then the quote from the founder is, females make themselves look different, younger, thinner, better, Lutton said. That's not going to happen on our app. So her number one concern is for guys being

victimized by fatties who make themselves look thinner than they are. Basically. That's the wild patriarchy bend of this thing. They're also talking about how, oh, on Rider, men initiate, women respond. Right. It's like, let's get back to basic.

Yeah. Well, you also, one of the rules is- You have to look like shit and people come at you. Well, right. They have a feature that if the man doesn't pay for the first date, you can report them. Right. Oh, okay. So, hey, that's just taking it back to the

old school because I'm an old fool who's so cool. This reminds me of, what was that thing? Ashley something or other. There was a site that was for men to cheat on their spouses. Oh, Ashley Madison.

Ashley Madison. It was for both sides to cheat on their spouses, but they ended up getting compromised and dumped all the data. And it was just all dudes. It was just all dudes hanging out there, which sounds like what they're trying to do with their marketing. Wait, what do you mean? That there were no women involved?

Right, they had a bunch of bots. Yeah, they were just trying to keep men interested. Oh, I didn't even realize. So wait, there were no successful affairs being done on Ashley Madison? There might have been a couple. Or like a few of people who were really that. But in order to take care of all of the demand from men, they just had all these bots being like, I totally want to cheat. Right.

I love to cheat with my big boobies. My boobies are ready for your cargo shorts. But there must be money in that because that seems like what they're trying to do because she's just straight pitching this to conservative men. Like, females make themselves look different. We're not going to let that shit slide on my dating app. You're not going to get a Russian bot on the other end. Right. So it makes sense. I mean, there is a huge demand

amongst conservative straights to, you know, have people... Love those conservative straights. I know. The poor conservative straights. Racism isn't as hot as it used to be. I know. Guys, Friends was going to stop streaming on Netflix. Fine.

Sorry. No, Jamie. You don't know how important this is. You remember? You did our live show. Oh, we shouldn't give any things away because that's for people who show up and are lucky enough. I'm sorry. Yeah. It was so lit. It was extremely lit. But yeah, if you were watching

Netflix like I do, there was a little thing that when you scrolled past friends, it said available to stream until 1-1-19. That's how it's always worked. I know. And when people saw that, they lost their shit on Tweetar and the rest of the internets.

And then Netflix, yo, they came through with the hot, the big bag for the streaming rights. They paid $100 million to secure their rights for 2019 to stream it. That's how much it costs to stream that show for a single year? Makes me want to flip a table. I think we as a culture should move on from Friends.

I have never liked Friends. And then I went to college brag. Look out. I went to Emerson. And the guy who owns everything at Emerson is the EP of Friends. And he's he's a mean motherfucker. Oh, really? Oh, yeah.

He would invite students. Like there was one time where he mispronounced my name for something. And it was like in front of thousands of people. And it was Jimmy Lotfuss. Lotfuss? Jimmy, he couldn't conceive of a funny woman. It was, he glitched and then he like, it called me and several of my friends

up to his penthouse apartment at the W in Boston and then gave us a $6 bottle of wine. Anyways, he's a nice, anyways, I don't want to give him a million dollars. Take that right to him. Well, how about a hundred million? Okay, okay. I mean, it's awful when you think about like what that money could actually have gone to. Right.

Like in where it's being spent. Because I think, you know, Netflix just secured another two billion. They're like eight billion in the hole right now. Yes. So I guess. They're very far in debt. They look into that chasm and they're like, fuck it, baby. But they decided they wanted to actually kill Matthew Perry with money.

Oh, I mean, I'll roll this takeover from the live show. Chandler does not hold up as a character, as a person. Miles, you have to use your joke. It's too good. At the end, it wasn't even for the show. I just put more like Chandler cha-ching, am I right? And then a parenthetical throws away last bit of pride and walks into the ocean never to be seen again. The only good, the bright side is that Lisa Kudrow gets money.

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donald trump apparently our president he declared a victory in the trade war over china uh and that victory lasted a day there was a day where the stock market was like, yeah, we're back, baby. Because he said so. Yeah, yeah. Like the guys from Trading Places in Coming to America. That's a twisted reference. But yeah. Wait, the guys?

Wait, what? So the two characters from Trading Places are homeless and coming to America. He gives them a bunch of money and they're like, Mortimer, we're back, baby. Anyways, that's what Wall Street was like. Thank you. And then they realized that it was a lie. Well, yeah, he just came out saying, I talked to President Xi, and we worked out an incredible deal. And then he went on to be like, I'm the tariff man, baby.

We're getting so much money in tariffs. It's like, that's not how tariffs work, you fucking imbecile. Anyway, and that caused like the White House and Larry Kudlow and many other people to walk it back. And it's more like, well, it's more like we talked about things we wanted to commit to. And then we'll wait to see if China actually, it was just like, okay, you just spiking the football on the two-yard line again. So, you know, even as I wrote this, I was like, eh, this isn't really a story in the sense that it's another time that Trump tried to claim that he fixed the economy without doing anything. Yeah. President overstates, damages country.

Right. No way. Yeah. At the same time, it is a story in that it caused his reversal or the global seeing through his bullshit today caused the stock market to fall 800 points. Is that a lot? It seems like it, doesn't it? I have no idea, actually. How's that a lot? 800 of anything seems like a lot.

800 is too many. Too many. Come on, stock markets. Come on. Don't fall so much. And speaking of the president, Michael Flynn, last night it was announced he would get no prison time, or at least Mueller would ask for him to get no prison time or at least limited prison time because he snitched so good. He snitched.

Again, it's a race to be the best rat. Is it Cohen? Is it Flynn? But apparently, yeah. I mean, Mike Flynn has been working with Mueller for much, much longer. And apparently it's like work on three different investigations, two of which were redacted. So we don't know what else they were up to. I have a question about the Mueller investigation.

Do they just drop it whenever or do they tease it? I'm trying to imagine like it's a it's a drake album right and they're like are they gonna is there gonna be like a trailer sort of thing where they're like this is what it or like whatever a released track they're like here's something cool but you gotta wait until this day pre-order right i think people are speculating that first of all he's not doing it along a public relations like timeline he's just more doing it along the timeline of like how to get the conviction or to build the case that he wants to build and so now these are moves that suggest that it's coming to an end basically almost over yeah okay and he's pretty much has the things he needs for his final report.

And then he'll just lemonade. He'll just drop it all at once. Yeah, exactly. I hope there's a visual album for the Mueller report. Yeah, it'll be a lot of people crying, I think. But we don't know what we'll see, what anyone will see, if Congress will see it. Those are things that we'll have to figure out as time goes on. But I know we are probably getting more updates on the nature of Paul Manafort's lies this week and a little bit more on Cohen.

So I guess those will be singles for the album. Drives and drives. This is the first of three things that was supposed to come out from the Mueller report. I think so, yeah. Now we just need Cohen. It is indicative of the president being somewhat fucked. So stay tuned, gang. Yeah.

But again, it's not to say that it's like a one-shot, just to blow the whole thing down kind of thing. It's just slowly, as we've seen, I think in the beginning where I was like, oh, when's that thing that's going to come that's going to bring Trump crashing down? And it's more that he's slowly just whittling away and eating away at all of it to eventually...

It's about the full album. It's not a single track. Sure. I'm just trying to compare this to sweetener in some way. All right. Let's talk one last thing about the president is that the Senate and specifically Senate Republicans have decided he's 100% full of shit when it comes to the murder of Heshogji.

Who's full of shit? The president. Oh, for sure. And Mohammed bin Salman. Yeah, they're all, yeah. Yes. Oh, for sure. So the CIA briefed the Senate and told them what everyone has seemed to know all along,

that MBS ordered the murder of Heshogji. The CIA did some spy shit, presumably, because they know that there was WhatsApp messages exchanged between MBS and head assassinator, the lead of the assassination team, around both before and after the murder. So he was kind of in the know when that was going on. And even told MBS's right hand, he's like, tell your boss he's dead. Yeah. I think was one of the messages yeah yeah which is just bad writing

yeah yeah if I could offer some punch up writing for your whatsapp messages MBS god what a sinister job for a comedian

yeah well yeah I think his last week right Mike Pompeo and General Mattis went up there and basically

threw what was left of their credibility into the dumpster fire. And we're like, I think Pompeo said, oh, well, there's no direct reporting that could link this. Mattis said there's no smoking gun, quote unquote. And then you have people like Lindsey Graham coming out. He's like, there might not be a smoking gun because there's a smoking saw. And you're like, whoa, is that you? Is that you?

A little bitchy yeah well you know it's whatever yeah how would you get a saw to smoke i mean whatever you aren't properly lubricating it yeah while trying to chop something the friction will cause the right material to smoke he was a stone cutter cutter. I'm sorry. Jamie, the thing you have to understand... Jesus Christ. I hate myself. Yeah, so the other thing is that the CIA

was supposed to brief the Senate last week and the White House specifically stopped that from happening. And it finally happened today. Yeah, and even... I'm surprised that they found their backbone on this one. specifically stopped that from happening. Yeah. And it finally happened today. Yeah. And even, you know, I'm surprised that they found their backbone on this one. Yeah.

Because there's another thing. Even Bob Corker, I mean, look, we know now that he doesn't have to face any kind of election. He's just saying whatever. But, like, a journalist asked him, he said, after hearing from Haspel today, this is him asking Bob Corker, Haspel today and Mattis Pompeo last week. Was there a difference in the message or the determination that MBS was responsible for the Khashoggi murder? Pause. Corker. Difference between darkness and sunshine?

Yeah, there you go. Wow. Thank you for that one. So, I mean, we'll see if that'll affect anything. Exactly. One point for a Senate Republican. Yeah. And Republicans, in worse news for them, they got hacked.

Specifically, the office in charge of their House re-election. I'd like to take credit for this. In 2018. Yeah. Was it you? It was me. The hacker. Oh, that was you? Yeah. The coder who hacked. Are you G it you? It was me. The hacker. Oh, that was you?

Yeah. The coder who hacked. Are you Guccifer? Yep. 2.0, Guccifer 2.0? Yeah, Guccifer. Yeah, that's you. Whatever that means, that's who I am.

Now she's Guccifer 3.0. Oh, shit. Way ahead of you. I love Lucifer is who you're going to be. But yeah, the NRCC, like their top four or the aides for the top four people at the NRCC had their emails, quote unquote, surveilled for months. But none of the emails were leaked in any way. So we're not quite sure how the hack was that damaging unless they're holding on to it for something in the future. Holding on to them.

Sign them up for the baby cap newsletter. Did more pranks than anything else. And they kept the thing private, though, too. Like a lot of people like Kevin McCarthy, a lot of people didn't know until Politico asked them for a quote. They're like, what the who, what?

Hacking? That's bizarre. They're like, we don't know about hacking unless it's for Democrats get hacked. But right. But it makes sense because I mean, they also hacked the Republican party and the, I think the Trump campaign in the 2016 election, they just never

released those emails because they wanted Trump to get elected. And, you know, the more power that the Republican Party has, the more America is under the control of a nihilistic, terrible government. Right. So, well, I wonder if that, you know, pro-Republican. Yeah, that RNC hack is just like, okay, maybe we'll call this compromise to get the other people in the Republican Party in line when Trump goes completely off the rails.

Right. Well, I guess it's not the worst thing to just have. Right. Just keep that there for safekeeping. But it does seem like this is coming out in the aftermath of the election to be like, well, oh yeah,

you guys got hacked in 2016, well, we got hacked now. That's why we did so bad and it wasn't because of our strategy of completely not embracing any kind

of inclusive platform at all. So we prove they have emails. Right. Well, yeah. And then I think- We use email, bro.

Well, Liz Cheney, who's now elevated in the NRCC, they were asking her about, yeah, but what about the lack of female representation in the party? And she gave some really condescending answer. I think it's just really paternalistic to think that that's what we have to do. That's what Democrats do, and it's really offensive. Yes, go off, Liz.

Yeah, because also their female representation Went from 23 to 13 seats I'm going to throw myself out a window Cool But again, you know, that's what you got to do When you have a terrible, terrible platform And you're not willing to change They should get on that app Right, women

They're like, this better be your photo too I'm looking for congressional candidates This better not be FaceTunes. No flattering angles. You're fucking reported. Chin up. Chin up. Not chin down.

I want to see that low angle shot. I want an up angle. All right, guys. As teased on multiple episodes, we want to talk about conditions, impacting factories. There he goes. I want to hear it. Yeah.

Well, it's the sort of thing that makes you only want to shop at brick and mortar stores from now on, which I'm sure they have their own shit going on. But the story from the New York Times is about a packing plant in Memphis where multiple women were worked so hard that they miscarried and were not like their pregnancy was not considered even when they brought in doctor's notes being like they're too pregnant to do work like you have to give them breaks when they want breaks the people were like yeah go fuck yourself um what business was this for it was for verizon you know it's an independent contractor who then does a lot of work for verizon And one woman there was worked until she died.

No. Yes. And her supervisor told people not to touch her and to step around her body and keep working. No, she dropped dead at work? At work, yeah.

And then the supervisor's like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, come on, get back to work. Yeah. Fuck capitalism. This is a fucking triangle shirt waste factory. It's terrifying. Yeah. That story of the woman dying on the floor, why am I laughing? work yeah fuck capitalism that comes up triangle shirt waste factory yeah right terrifying yeah that story of the woman dying on the floor why am i laughing uh of a woman's uncomfortable to

actually consider that that's a reality that we're living in that people are worked to death this was last year yeah just last year september 2017 and the article that that is contained in is about the lack of rights for pregnant women in this workplace and in like packing factories. And it just happens to have the story of the woman dying and people being told to work around her body. And what were like, what did the company say when they're like, oh, what the fuck's going on? So they claim it's the unions trying to get people onto the side of the union. Oh, fuck that. Yeah.

Are you serious? Yeah. The family has to be suing, right? Like they're- Oh, I'm sure. It's fucking disgraceful. Yeah. That, ugh.

Yeah. Look, you know, if when people ask, okay, capitalism's awesome. Right. That means you have people who- What do we do? You would presumably this woman who was working and pregnant or even other people at health conditions are doing so probably because we don't provide proper opportunity for healthcare or other things that their only financial recourse

is to work to death or at the expense of their unborn child. Yeah. One of the anecdotes that was just particularly evocative to me was this woman who was, you know, in her 40s, I think, and her teenage son got a job at this same factory for a summer job. And he was like, we do like two a days in the summer for football. And like, this is 10 times harder than that. Like the work that you put in at this factory mom like she was like I don't know how you do that right and then

even the conditions in the warehouse were like incredibly hot yeah yeah so you're working oh my so is there what do we do what do we throw our Verizon phones and when you say they're packing or packaging is it just like it's like a distribution hub for Verizon products, basically?

And, I mean, you hear other horror stories about people working in Amazon factories. It's not just that they remove the driving to the store from your consumer experience. I think the other service that these companies provide is they remove the need to witness and interact with people who are being exploited to provide your consumer pleasure. Like you just don't even have to think about it. It's like somewhere up a completely opaque supply chain. You're like, I pressed enter and my thing showed up.

Not I went to the store, I saw a pregnant woman working the register and felt like, oh, I feel like this person should be working. Right, and she looked completely exhausted. Yeah. Well, and also when it's behind closed doors, you don't need to do anything to make it. I feel like if you're working in a brick and mortar location and you're coming into direct contact with customers, there would be more care put into like, does this person appear ill? Do they seem uncomfortable? Because that would affect the customer experience. But if it's all behind closed doors at a factory, they double don't give a fuck. Right. That's exactly right. And I mean, I think that that's the other inefficiency in the market that they've

exploited is that other companies in the past have had to worry about what their workers looked like. Yeah, exactly. Whereas they at Amazon or at other companies that are putting these workers behind a wall, they're able to work those people, yeah, like you said, double hard and just, you know, exploit the shit out of them. Yeah. Oh, man. That is absolutely disgraceful yeah so well this is the thing and you know this is why people have to really understand what's at

stake for the future of the country right because it may be a sort of an abstract issue to you if you're fortunate enough to not have to work a job like this but like you know when people are talking about workers rights and working people's rights and things like that it's not some weird socialist fantasy that fox news is like oh and then they're gonna take your microwave and cut it in half and you have to give it to this other person it's trying to at least give human beings the basic fucking dignity they deserve like when you look at the quotes of some of these women who were with child working there, they're like, I needed the money to be able to even like stay at home with my child. The ability to live and to like survive.

It's not even it's when it comes down to issues like this, it's not even a comfort issue. Yeah. It's just like, can you afford to live? Can you? Yeah. Can you afford to live? Yeah. afford to live yeah and just think about i mean right the fox news is and even i think the mainstream media of the world uh they want there to be these two binary options either you have

you know soviet russian communism or you have this version of capitalism that is just fucking mad max thunderdome nobody's looking out looking out for anybody that we've sort of progressed towards. And I think the reason we've been able to progress to this level is because we have a mainstream media that isn't looking out for people. They're owned by giant corporations and giant corporations look out for other giant corporations. Right. And I think if you also the reporting of it would be it would be like shame on this warehouse. Right. And I think if you also the reporting of it would be it would be like shame on this warehouse. Right. It's not shame on the system that creates this kind of problems for people. And then the financial system or the commercial system we're operating. It's never a systemic issue. It's always like, oh, let's take out whoever's in charge of this specific factory.

Let's shut this specific factory down. And then, you you know two more pop up and it doesn't matter yeah the options are not socialism in the sense of like communism and thunderdome capitalism there are versions of you know a capitalist economy where people actually look out for workers and there are strong labor unions and not even like fuck it's even calling it workers they're people right looking out for the citizens of their nations right is there an example of a capitalist economy that's gone well do we know yeah fully well yeah i think you would be shocked at how much different other countries are that are like capitalist but like america's the only place that is this full yeah it's full-on just fuck you give me my money i don't care if you die working yeah because in other places like they have very aggressive like maternity leave right and like leave for your child care and all these

other things are in america's like do your co-workers want to pitch in to give you a few days off because they can give up their days the gofundme suggestion right GoFundMe suggestion. Right. Start a GoFundMe. Maybe you'll be allowed to. Oh, right. That was a thing of the guy who needed cancer treatments, right? Yeah. And then the insurance company was like, we suggest a charity fundraising drive for you.

It literally said start a GoFundMe or you're toast. What the fuck? And again, the one record that the U.S. holds, like we all say, is that we're the only country where people go into massive debt because of health issues. Yeah. So awesome. We're number one. We're number one.S. holds, like we all say, is that we're the only country where people go into massive debt because of health issues. Yeah. So we're number one.

We're number one at that. Well, yeah, because in France right now, even with all the massive protests, like, I mean, they haven't seen protests like this since 1968. Paris was literally burning over the weekend. And that was based on fuel taxes that were coming up. And a lot of, and even this is a country that has socialized medicine for these people, but there still have the problem that the U S does that the middle class is fucking evaporating. And it's just becoming haves and have nots. And this is the same thing that,

you know, it's, it's all connected to why Trump is president and why we look at these situations. There's this, the middle class problem is one of the biggest ones, even facing these countries that we may look at as like relative utopias but there's still that other dimension that we i don't know like certain places have not figured out it's like we have to

understand that you need a middle right because if when you have just like team one and team two like that's where the shit gets nasty especially Especially if, like, Team 1 is holding all the cards. Right. Right. And Team 2 has all the people. Right. It's just a couple people holding all the cards. Yeah.

I mean, and the crazy thing with France is the mainstream media in the United States, you would get the impression that it was all just people objecting to a global climate change tax. Right. And, like, that's basically it. But it's not that. It's part of a larger. Much bigger issue. Right, right. And like that's basically it, but it's not that. It's part of a larger- Much bigger issue. Yeah.

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And the internet is having an interesting week when it comes to we so we talked yesterday about how pete davidson was being bullied uh the ariana grande stands were sort of making his life a living hell and he is a mentally ill guy in recovery who's getting over being dumped by the most famous person on earth but you know he's still a successful straight white dude who's probably going to be okay and he acknowledged that even when he was complaining yeah but now we learned that the same thing happened to a writer who gave the thank you next video a negative review for being uh and the review has its own problems we read it and it does seem like it's a bit of an overreach did you read it i didn't know

there were some things about just like really leaning into that a lot of the stuff was like anti-queer and transphobic and sort of really yeah i mean i i could see how under i could understand how if you wanted to take a very narrow view of that you could look at it like that but there was other things like they were saying she was in blackface when she was just doing offensive tanner that people do. Yeah, I've seen that argument positive before, and I honestly don't know what to make of it. I mean, to me, blackface is a very well-defined thing. I think, if anything, she's guilty of trying to come off a little more ethnic than you might be. But I think blackface is a completely different thing.

Yes. However, again, if you take a very narrow view and you're looking at side-by-side photos, you're like, ooh, well, you went nine shades darker suddenly than your normal skin tone. I mean, even while we were having the conversation, somebody on our production team was like, she is definitely a person of color, right?

And we were like, no, she's Italian. Right. The whole she's Italian thing, you're like, no, she's Italian. Right. The whole she's Italian thing, you're just like, I don't know. Yeah. But I also am not willing to name who asked that question because I don't want them to get death threats. From the Grande Hive. From the Grande Hive because that seems to be where we're at.

I love Ariana. She's on my sweatshirt, finger in the world. Yeah. I know that. Well, yeah, that website was Into or whatever is the name of the outlet that put it out. They basically had to be like, criticism of the thank you next video that might have been like gone a little far in one direction or another but it's like a college paper that wants to make a thesis and maybe like puts a couple somewhat questionable arguments in

there i mean most articles of that nature the. And they had to take this person's name off, you know, to protect them, but then the publication, like, really wasn't backing the writer. They were like, we're gonna do a line-by-line like, takedown of this article. Of this article, yeah. Really? Yeah, and they were also like, but they also said, we totally failed the

writer with our editors, completely failed her, because, like, somehow this got to this point, the editor and she was like, I'm going to be reviewing the entire process and there'll be a change. But I don't know. It just seems like they're buckling to the fact that there are millions and millions of probably Ariana Grande stands that are, you know, complaining to them. And so if I may be cynical, if I may be cynical about it, I think that they got a ton of clicks on the first article,

and they're like, well, we better publish a follow-up that will get just as many clicks, because they're making money. We'll make more news by removing the byline, then we'll make more news again by adding a note from the editor. Exactly. It'll be like an ongoing story. As someone who's written a lot of clickbait. And even the take, whatever. Clearly, I think it needed a little more

thought in certain respects but i could see sort of what they were going for but do you deserve motherfucking death threats no and then we have uh sarah highland from modern family uh the eldest child of the titular modern family so her 14 year old cousin died in a car accident over the weekend. And while she was grieving publicly on social media, she posted a link to a GoFundMe to help the family raise money for funeral expenses because we live in a capitalist hellscape. And also the father, her uncle has been in multiple surgeries because he was also in the car accident. So there's all sorts of reasons that they would need help and you know that they should have a gofundme live not in the sense that it's a sane thing for a country to have but uh in the sense that you know

we live in this economic reality so why the hell not and people like are going after her because they're like you're rich You should pay for it. And like really like. Why die on that hill? Right. It's just it seems like a weird like almost cartoonishly bad time to choose to make that argument. Right. And in a way, I understand what the anger is because you're looking at someone like that and go, you have exponentially more money than most of these people who are reading it.

But that is a very, like you said, of the timing of trying to use that, like a grieving person to be like, but you're rich. And like, as much as I love being angry about class related issues, it's like,

just don't donate to it. If you feel that way, don't give money to it. Yeah. And it's like, just let her, oh, that sucks.

Yeah. Cause it's not like Sarah Highland's like, help me and my girls go to Bora Bora. Right. You know, like those are the offensive one. And I understand, like, you know, again, get mad at it. Zach Braff's Kickstarter. Yeah, I was just going to say, get mad at Zach Braff's Kickstarter. Did he have a Kickstarter?

He had a Kickstarter. He was like, I can't fund this incredibly personal project of mine. And oh, eat shit, Zach Braff. He's like, my residuals from scrubs are late this month. Can you please help? Yeah. Wasn't his brother on The Shield? Is he?

There's another Braff? He's Dutch. He plays Dutch, that other- Lil Braff? Yeah. What? Because I remember being like, yo, that's Zach Braff's brother. But that's a great time to choose to get mad and be like, pay for it with your own fucking money.

Oh, I loved not donating to Zach Braff's Kickstarter. That was a blast. I got off on it. Oh, wait, maybe I'm confusing you all. Zach Braff has no brother. He consumed it in the womb. So there was an article from The Hollywood Reporter about how nobody wants to host the Oscars. And apparently that problem has been solved by one Kevin Hart.

Oh, boom, boom. Weirdly, I'm looking at a quote from our story about this, and it says, that's a tall order. And that would probably be a joke within the telecast yeah made at kevin hart's expense well i guess prior to this before he had agreed to do this i guess when you sort of looked at why like this was the job nobody wanted it kind of makes sense because the ratings have just been on a downward trend for the like the last what four or five years basically and like who besides billy crystal's career has it ever assisted right i feel like people usually after they host the oscars are in poorer standing with the general public you just get ripped anne hathaway had her

a new asshole delivered after he was express overnighted she got overnighted a new asshole and i always i mean i stand for Anne Hathaway. She never did a damn thing to anyone, and people shouldn't have been so mean to her. I know. She was just so easy to hate, I think, for the internet people. They're just like, I don't like her. She reminds me of the person from, yeah. I'm connecting some other memory from my past and applying that to her.

I got in an argument with a brunette woman once. It's over for you, Anne. Well, and also when we talk about creatively, though, too, it sounds like not a great job if you're actually a comedian because there are so many stakeholders that have to be satisfied because, like, one, your presence has to boost ratings,

which means you also have to have huge name recognition. You gotta be funny. You gotta be topical, as Hollywood Reporter says, topical without being controversial, politically savvy, without being too partisan, young, but not so young as to scare the Academy's governors and satisfactory to a coalition of competing interests, including the Academy's president. It's sprawling board in ABC.

And so who does that leave? Steve Harvey. Actually, Steve Harvey would be really good. I think Steve Harvey would be a fun Oscar. But so many people would be like, who? No way! And then they would tune in and he would immediately win. No, I mean like internationally.

Because that's the other thing. It's a very international event too. So that's why they typically want someone with slightly... But I don't know. Like who gives a fuck? I mean, Kevin Hart will do a good job. Yeah. I hope so.

He'll be fine. Sure. But you think he's going to get really spicy up there? No. No, no, no. And that's not a good version of Kevin Hart. Right. So this article was saying that John Oliver and Samantha Bee would be good picks, except

they're too controversial. Okay, John Oliver would be a boring host of the Oscars. Right. I can't imagine him standing up. I think Samantha Bee would be a boring host of the oscars right not like i can't imagine him standing up i think samantha b would be a much better option than john oliver yeah she would be amazing and the only person she would like who in hollywood is she going to offend well here's the thing most people on the right word ones jack right but most people on the right don't give a fuck or they have this sort of anti-hollywood bias anyway so they're gonna hate watch either way right so fuck it like just let it rock it is what it is right you can

call all the bullshit that's going on in the administration for what it is make jokes about it i'm sorry if you voted for this guy but them's the realities and this is part of that ongoing fake news story where it's like oscar ratings have gone down for five years in a row. It's like every show's ratings have gone down for five years in a row. Nobody watches TV anymore. Like that's just we follow it on Twitter or. Well the NBA. NBA ratings are I think one of the ones that do better right over time. Yeah because they've like specifically embraced the social media aspect. Yeah. And they're not scared of brown people. They're like, hey, people of color,

we're not fucking around in the way we depict you, or at least we're letting y'all do your thing versus baseball. It's like, was Ken Griffey wearing his hat backwards? Every baseball take is delivered with gritted teeth. Oh, my God. We're going to be the laughingstock. Cheater isn't white. Yeah.

So apparently they've tried to get Oprah Winfrey, Justin Timberlake, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Jerry Seinfeld, and they've all turned it down. And even Tina Fey and Amy Poehler, who used to do what was seen as the poor man's version of the Oscars. The Golden Globes have reportedly passed on the Oscar job. Dwayne The Rock Johnson has been mentioned as a Golden Globes host rather than one for the Academy Awards. Wait, why? So he's not big enough? No, it's because they realize you're creatively fucking handcuffed when you do that.

You can't do any of the material that's authentic to your voice. That's why when Ricky Gervais did it that one year and everyone was like, that was the spiciest shit when he was just basically insulting everyone in the audience. Ricky Gervais is a loser, too. He's insufferable sometimes in those things. He's a t-shirt v-neck loser with sweaty takes. That was an amazing, though, opening. I couldn't believe it.

Because it was one of those times you're like oh wow you're just treating this like a roast and like shocking everyone and then Amy Poehler

and Tina Fey did a great job too because again they were allowed to just sort of do what they want and I don't think because the foreign

press is made up of a bunch of elderly foreign film critics well not elderly that's a bad you know they're elderly

my mom included you're the only person who has anything riding on this. You're like, uh oh. Yeah. But you know, like they're less sort of about the, like they're less rigid about it. Like in like less pearl clutchy when it comes to the material. Cause they're not, they're not coming from some puritanical. That's why they let everybody get drunk during the show. Yeah. Terribly, terribly drunk. And I missed our Santa University award being handed out. I mean, listen,

it's always when everyone is pee-peeing at once, they give it away, they're like, where'd everyone go? Well, next year. It's nice to see, like, though, when you go, people get at that thing because it's amazing. Was Alfred Molina drunk? I can't comment on that.

I bet he wasn't. I had to sign an NDA. I bet he was drinking a LaCroix. I do think Jimmy Kimmel and Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are the only people who have maybe gotten slightly higher in people's esteem from hosting things. Jimmy Kimmel's fun. Yeah, he did a good job. Yeah, he did all right.

For people who haven't watched him since the man show, it was good to be like, oh, yeah, he's very comfortable and good. And he's got a sense of humor. Even when he was at the helm of the most disastrous best picture announcement ever. He was like, well, shrug and see you tomorrow. I think he said something like, I knew something was going to be wrong and it was going to be my fault or something like that.

Yeah, they were like, I knew I was going to screw and it was gonna be my fault or something like that yeah they were like I knew I was gonna screw this up in some manner some historical spectacular way well then there's also like some network politics at play too because if they wanted to be Colbert or someone it's like well he's CBS right yeah that's what I was thinking like Colbert or James Corden would

be James Corden would actually be absolutely perfect because he's like a song and dance person. He would really into the woods it. Rather than a Seth MacFarlane song and dance person. Speaking of bad Tanner jobs, yeah, Seth MacFarlane and his fake-ass teeth. I used to have such a big crush on him.

You did? You did? Yeah, up until I was like 22. Oh my goodness. What was it about him? Wow! Oh my God! I really have this thing for veneers. I was just like, oh, I love his fake teeth.

What did you think of Matt Dillon in Something About Mary when he got his veneers? I love veneers. Yeah. I mean, now that my dad has his fake teeth, we're going to hook up. It's just like a thing. Long-standing thing. Wait, where do you think the veneers thing comes from? Was there someone with beautiful teeth? Has your dad always had fake teeth, we're going to hook up. It's just like a thing. Long-standing thing. Wait, where do you think the veneers thing comes from? Was there someone with beautiful teeth?

Fake teeth? No, no, no. Just this year. I was like, you should do it. So it wasn't like a weird Freudian thing? No, I don't. I need to go back to my childhood and figure out where the veneers thing came. But I always, like, I never liked Michael Bay movies, but he's got a big

veneer. Like, any Jerry Bruckheimer production is veneer heavy. I know a lot about veneers. Veneers, yeah. Who was the first male celebrity crush you had? The first, oh, jeez. You can remember. Alex Trebek. Wow.

Is Trebek rocking some veneers? I don't think Trebek. I think Trebek's au natural. You have such interesting taste in men. I liked old guys. We should just do an entire serialized podcast trying to figure out Jamie's taste in men. Where does it begin? There's that picture of Alex Trebek.

Look up Alex Trebek Young. Although your boyfriend's like a totally good-looking, normal person. It's not like he's like this weird, like based on your taste in men as expressed on this show. You're expecting a real bridge troll to show up. Or like an old guy with dentures. Old guy with dentures and

some sort of apparatus on his back with multiple arms. What were you guys expecting? I was expecting a literal American Girl doll because you said in your stories he looked like an American Girl doll. He sort of does. Speaking of Alex Trebek Young, more like Alex Trebek Yum.

I know. Alex. I had a picture of Alex Trebek in my room when I was 10. It was like a laser jet printed. Oh, that you just had to make your own teen posters? Printed in computer class. Well, yeah, no one's making posters. You're telling me there weren't posters widely available, commercially produced posters of Alex Trebek on his side,

leaning with... What if he posed for J-14? That would be incredible. That would be fucking amazing. Alex Trebek for J-14. He'd go to jail, but it would be a great bit. Well, Jamie, it's been a pleasure, as always, having you. Where can people find you you can find me on twitter.com

at Jamie Loftus Help or Instagram at Jamie Cray Superstar and listen to the Bechtel cast do it is there a tweet that you've been enjoying oh god oh okay this is from Melissa Lozada Oliva

one of my favorite poets and friends. Need to dissect why I think evil Walter White is hot. Please pray for me. Very topical. At HelloMelissa. Miles, where can people find you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at MilesOfGrey. And a tweet I like is from Hotboytrap at TrapGod.

G-A-W-D-D. It says, It's okay to be white. It's okay to be black. It's okay to be straight. It's okay to be gay. It's okay to be you. But it's never okay to stop at a yellow light when we both could have made it, bitch. God, especially, I mean, if you're in a traffic-heavy city, you will

identify with that. And at JerkBenning tweeted, or at Jackie Venning, his display name, tweeted, Standing over a subway grate and having the hot air blow my bootcut jeans around like Marilyn Monroe while all the fellas hoot and holler. Second bootcut jeans joke in a row. Bootcut jeans are funny. They're fucking awful. Wait, what was the handle? I want to RT row. Bootcut jeans are funny. They're fucking awful. Wait, what was the handle? I want to RT that.

At Jerk Venning. Oh, that's fun. And you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.

Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be? Well, first of all, you should really check out Reality Bice Podcast. We forgot to plug that. Jack and I were on it. We'll plug it again tomorrow.

It's late in the day. They're wonderful. But we went on there, and we talked about all of our hearts and desires and our romantic lives and also I'm going to be on Creature Feature I think today actually talking with Katie Golden about some weird parental stuff going on in the animal kingdom you definitely want to tune into that

the song we are going to go out on is by a group called Radiant Children and it's called Go Left and you know what it's just meant to get your big toe shooting up your boot cause it is hump day so keep it moving and let's get through the week

we're gonna ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast we'll talk to you guys then bye See, they tell you life is but a dream But they wanna sell you downstream You won't get a hold of me So, you better run Better leave this place Get lost and go a different way

Go left, go left, go left Go, go, head for the sun You're so out of space When the man's getting on your case Go left, go left, go left Go, go, hey Yeah, I said fuck the papers Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist

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Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In California during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles, two women did something no other woman had done before, try to assassinate the president of the United States. One was the protege of Charles Manson. 26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nickname Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current.

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