The Daily Zeitgeist - The Suitcase Game, Pence Prays Pandemic Away 2.28.20

Episode Date: February 28, 2020

In episode 579, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Daniel Van Kirk to discuss a check in with Florida woman, the Trump administrations plan for combatting coronavirus, Democratic leaders willing to risk it all, Mike Bloomberg's history of dealing with emergencies, the end of beards, Amazon's new grocery store, the coolest websites, and more!FOOTNOTES: Florida Woman Arrested for Killing Her Boyfriend By Leaving Him in a Suitcase Mike Pence Is Your New Czar Of Finding Out If Coronavirus Is Gay, Praying It Away White House GAGS government health experts from speaking about coronavirus saying they must have Mike Pence's approval for EVERYTHING they say about mounting crisis - despite VP having zero medical qualifications Coronavirus Patient in California Was Not Tested for Days Trump Administration Can’t Promise You’ll Be Able To Afford Coronavirus Vaccine Here's the clip of Azar not assuring Rep. Schakowsky a covid-19 vaccine will be affordable to all. Democratic Leaders Willing to Risk Party Damage to Stop Bernie Sanders Mayor Bloomberg under fire for handling of blizzard New York Struggles as Blizzard’s Impact Chastens Bloomberg NYC Mayor Bloomberg Criticized for Storm Response Bloomberg Team on Blizzard Response: We’re Sorry! (But It’s Not Our Fault.) As coronavirus spreads, the CDC has a very thorough guide to optimizing your facial hair for a mask Amazon opens full-sized, cashierless grocery store, fulfilling unclear human need What is the coolest website you’ve visited that no one knows about? Steve Lacy - Playground (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Those billboards, I saw a few walking through town. Yeah, man. His hairline's a little off, though. Right. Looks a little bit like a beret. Yeah. I don't know. So is it transplant surgery?

Is that what they're advertising? Hey, man, whatever it is, man. I'm loving it. I was saying to Miles on the way back from Chicago O'Hare yesterday to the hotel that I feel like half of the advertisements I've seen in Chicago the past three times I've been here have all been for Brian Urlacher has hair now. Yeah. That seems to be the message.

You'll love to see it. You'll love to see it. You know I love to see it. Miles, we are on the road right now with our Time Machine super producer, Ana Hosnier. And we were in Chicago last night with the hilarious and talented Mr. Daniel Van Kirk. And we are in Toronto tonight for the grand finale, February 28th, at the Great Hall with Mark Little. So for tickets, go to dailyzygues.com. Go to the live appearances.

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Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented guy who co-hosted our live show with us last night, the wonderful Mr. Daniel Daniel Kirk. Hey, hey, hey. How are you? Hey, hey, hey. What's up, dude?

Hi, friends. Thanks for having me. Thank you for coming. Double tipping you anytime. That company is called Restore. Restore. They did Ryan Sandberg. Ryan Sandberg?

Yeah. And Brian Urlacher. I don't think they did Jimmy Mack. Gary Gayetti? Yes, dude. Of course Gary Gayetti. You know what the ultimate, the holy grail would be? Michael Jordan.

He just comes through with a full head. Like he's North Carolina. I am Michael Jordan. And I want to grow hair for the first time in my life. I want to grow hair better than anyone else. When he made fun of himself at the Kobe tribute, it was genius. That was amazing.

Crushed it. Because the last 20 things he's done in public have suggested he has no sense of humor about himself. So then for him to be like, oh, shit. Oh, I wonder if it was really like the story when he said his wife was like, hey, they're going to make a meme out of you. And he's like, what are you talking about? And she shows him the apps and shit he's like what the

fuck he has gotten married in the past couple years so maybe uh to a younger woman so maybe she's just she gets that meme culture baby i have a she's put him in his place i wonder what it's like to explain to him the first time he saw the meme if he's like what the fuck is this yeah i'm like uh i don't know man i'm gonna look into that um damn he probably's like, what the fuck is this? I'm like, I don't know, man. I'm going to look into that. He probably was like, am I the most popular meme? Yeah, it's like, yeah, there's an app. It's pretty much part of the vocabulary of the internet now.

Are you saying I excelled in another arena of life? In a way, yes. He's like, did I beat the weird Spongebob? But this is fine. But you know that one? This is fine, dawg. He's like, alright, I'm going to head out. Well fine, dog. Yeah, that's weird that you know that one. He's like, all right, I'm gonna head out.

Well, Daniel, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about on today's episode. We've got a Florida woman that we wanna check in with. A dark tale. Dark tale.

Yeah. A lot of darkness in the news cycle these days uh not all darkness but we are gonna breathe a sigh of relief because the coronavirus epidemic now has renowned virologist mike pence on the case yep so everybody's feeling good take your masks off guys he's gonna shock the corona out of you yeah and also just also just, it seems like the Trump administration has chosen this to be the thing that they're going to micromanage and make sure their fingerprints are all over, which not great. Not great news for anyone. We're going to talk about the article in the New York Times that has some troubling things for anybody who was hoping that

they weren't gonna kind of make the DNC this summer a complete clusterfuck they're apparently even if Sanders has an overwhelming lead in delegates they're gonna give it to somebody else basically it doesn't seem like Sanders has any chance unless he wins the majority based on this. I think it was like hundreds of interviews that they conducted with 98 people.

98 superdelegates. 93 rather. They're all going to go Biden. Who don't know? They're just being like, they're going to go Biden. Right. That does seem like where it's headed. He's part of the system. Yeah, I know. Four years ago he wanted to be president too. They just told like, they're going to go Biden. Right. That does seem like... He's part of the system. Yeah, I know. I was going to tell it, Regal. Four years ago,

he wanted to be president too. They just told him, no, sit down, it's Hillary. You think in the last four years he was like, I'm four years older. I'm ready, coach. Now I want to do it.

No. They told him, sit down. We're not going to let Bernie do it. It's going to be Hillary. So he went on Letterman and smiled his way through an interview. And then now four years later,

he's like, okay, now I can. I was a good boy, sure, go ahead. Can you at least say you're running for president when you go out there and not Senate? We're going to say RIP to Beards. We're going to talk about Amazon opening a human-less grocery store. And Reddit has a thread that's pretty entertaining. Best website you visited nobody knows about.

And I discovered a couple cool things on there. So we'll look at some of that. But first, Daniel, we like to ask our guest, as you know, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are, sir? The most nerve-wracking part of this show. Not for us. Well, I went back. A lot of them were just tied into a prepping for a live show of

my own podcast that we just recently did so they weren't fun so i went back to the most recent one uh and it search history was antiques roadshow man with rolex oh shit have you guys seen that no no uh this guy in vietnam bought a rolex saved up for it and then he decided i think he ordered it catalog ordered it maybe and then he decided it was too nice to i'm gonna give this all away is that yeah he decided it was too nice to ever wear let's just do a spoiler alert for antiques roadshow yeah do you remember the episode and season number no but if you hit in rolex guy okay so if you see that clip just so you know skip ahead you want to watch it yeah yeah okay so he uh he put it in a safety deposit box with everything the receipt the order form the warranty which is not filled out the box the watch it ended up being

like the same one that paul newman wears in some famous movie not the same exact watch but same model right but the model he got has oyster on the face which is a thing that paul newman's didn't even have and it has uh uh like the lock-in dials for if you want to go scuba diving and just alone a blank warranty card from rolex from like the 70s or whatever is worth like two grand just wait a blank warranty card yeah because you could still fill it out for any watch you could have a new watch now as long as you have that card and fill yours out so like those are very sought after so the guy tells him he was like uh this watch uh normally at auction would go from anywhere from uh 300 to 400 000 he bought it for 375 bucks right so so then the guy like faints he falls down oh right and he is everything you would picture like like cool vietnam guy looking guy yeah big white hair big

white beard he's got like the bandana like anything oh not a vietnamese guy a guy who was like a nom vet yes okay sorry if i didn't convey that well enough so the guy gets up and he goes are you okay and he's like, I just can't believe it. He's like, well, hold on, because your watch is better than that. And then he faints again. Yeah. He really was like, I need you to, you're okay? And he goes, because of the Oyster, because of the lockdown,

because that it's literally almost never been worn, because you have every level of documentation, this watch at auction could go up to 750 000 oh my yeah fuck yeah wow yeah how was he so was he just stoked or just like oh yeah i couldn't believe it the guy was like just understand if you put this on because part of it is that it's never been worn it's one of the greatest time pieces in the world oh and it's like box fresh like really it's basically a dead he just was like i'll just'll just put it in a security deposit box. I don't want it.

I shouldn't have bought this. Do they do backstories on that show? They don't ever go deep enough. Yeah, yeah. I'm always curious to know their situation and if this is going to help them or if they're already doing well. But if you're fainting, I mean, shit, I don't know. Unless you're a billionaire.

If someone says, yeah, this thing that you got for $300 is worth, what is that 100 times that yeah yes are you just gonna donate it all to the bloomberg campaign he already times that yeah yeah that's good um what is something you think is overrated uh i'm sorry to say it but i believe that knives out is overrated i haven't seen it i just i don't you i don't care about anybody did you see it jack no i haven't seen it you don just, I don't, I don't care about anybody. Did you see it, Jack? No, I haven't seen it. You don't care about anybody. You don't, in the movie, there's nobody you care about. Like, none of the characters.

Like, you just don't care about any of them. Oh, it's like you're just looking into a diorama? So you're like, yes, is it amazingly written? Is it amazingly performed? Is the costume designed and the set decorated? Everything is fun. It's a great movie. I love that it's an original.

It's an original film that did extremely well. Great to have those in theaters, especially studio films. Overrated. Yeah, because I just didn't care. I didn't care about what happened to any of these people. Is it by design? Yes. That's sort of the vibe of the film? I don't know, man. Pick one.

It's more of a trick, like seeing how it works out. And that is great. What is the premise of it it's a murder mystery yeah it's more like clue kind of yeah yes it's clueless yes all right um do are there other like classic movies not that knives out is necessarily like part of the canning yet but are there other movies that everybody loves that you have a similar complaint with where you're like yeah i just don't care about the characters. I couldn't think of it. Although, a movie that did pretty well that everybody seemed to like that I was like, this movie's horrible was Game Night.

Game Night? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Chandler. Jesse Plemons is in it. He's amazing in it. Yeah. But I just don't care about anybody. Steve Carell?

No. Nope. Jason Bateman. That's Date Night. Yes, Jason Bateman. That's Date Night. Yes, Jason Bateman. Yeah. Yeah. Different night.

Different night. And yeah, yeah. I felt that same way about Ready or Not, too. I was like, I don't care about any of these people. Yeah. Okay. Well. Which one's Ready or Not?

That's the woman who has to survive the night playing hide and go seek with a whole bunch of killers. Oh, sure, sure. Yeah. These are all the kinds of movies I'm just like, oh, someone came out. But also, I'm just terrible at watching movies. It takes a lot for me to... I gotta get that pass, man.

I keep talking shit about getting one of those. Fall out of your chair. Yeah, do it. I keep talking shit about getting one of those passes so I can just walk into an AMC at will and then just roll my eyes back in the theater. I love it. What is something you think is underrated

the outsider on hbo i don't think enough people are talking about this tv show hearing quite a bit about possibly the best in my opinion the best adaptation of a stephen king uh story since stand by me which is my favorite movie of all time but it, very good. It's a smart crime procedural wrapped in a Stephen King dream. That first episode, I was just like, oh boy. Are you watching it all? No, I just saw the... I only had time to watch the first one. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to need to like...

I think I'm going to want to just fly through it. I'll probably do the thing I did with Watchmen, where basically the week before the finale just caught everything. That's not bad. You got two more weeks. That's how I actually am with the Antiques Roadshow clip. I've watched the first 30-45 seconds.

You never find out? You never find out what that doll's worth? Yeah. I keep hearing that it's supernatural stuff. Maybe. But we don't know. That crime procedural level of it is so good. Yeah. supernatural stuff right maybe maybe but we don't know okay that's what i'm saying that crime

procedural level of it right so good yeah yeah that you're that it's just very good right and smart you know i hate tv shows when you're like she she would ask more she's right they did like when somebody walks around like what are you doing here nothing like all right take care like they'd be like no i asked you a question water like they question. Everybody's smart in this show, which I enjoy. What are you mopping up there, blood? No. All right.

See you later. You need help? Did you guys watch American Horror Story? No. The first season, that's the whole problem. Spoiler alert. Spoiler alert. They're dumb.

Connie Britton and I think it's Maroney. Gilbert Maroney. Okay. Maybe it's Dylan McDermott. It's Dylan McDermott. Dylan McDermott and Connie Britton and I think it's Mulroney. Maybe it's Dylan McDermott. It's Dylan McDermott. Dylan McDermott and Connie Britton, they are married. They move into this haunted house that they don't know is haunted.

They have a maid who comes with the house. When he looks at her, she's dressed like a sex worker who's working. It's not all sex workers dress like that all the time. She looks like she's on. She's not all sex workers dress like that all the time. But she looks like she's on. She's ready to do a show.

When the wife looks at her, she's an old witch-looking woman. And these two never talk about what the maid looks like. At any point. One of them is never like, so our maid looks like a witch. Strong vibe.

And then the other one would be like, hey, does it bother you that our maid is walking around in basically a slutty maid outfit like a witch. Strong vibe, huh? And then the other one would be like, hey, is it bother you that our maid is walking around in basically like a slutty maid outfit? Like nothing? Yeah. Nope. I'm like, oh, so this show works as long as people don't communicate in normal ways.

And that's when I'm out when it's that. When I'm like, you're smarter. You would say that? Yeah. Unless like internally, he's like, I don't want to ruin this for me, dude. I don't know. I don't call it out.

Yeah, and she didn't have a problem with it. We have an open relationship. We just don't talk about it. Do you see them have conversations about it where they just say things that are vague enough that they're like, huh? Yeah. Wow, that's terrible. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?

What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Based on the time we all spent in Chicago, I want everyone to know that it is a myth that you have to pay money to go up to the John Hancock Building, even though it's called something else. I'll never call it whatever it is now. But the John Hancock Building, you have to pay money to go up to the observation and look out over the beautiful views of the city.

That is a myth. All you have to do is say you're going to the signature room, which is the restaurant two floors below the observation deck. Say you want a water or maybe you do want a whiskey or a wine, whatever that is. You pay less money than you would have paid for the observation deck. You can sit there and enjoy a cocktail and look out over the whole city. Oh, and you're only just two floors below.

Yeah. Oh, I thought you were going to even be more devious. Like, you don't have to pay. What you do, you rent a wheelchair. It's like, okay. It's a myth. You have to fake a seizure. It's a myth that you have to pay money to see those great views.

Is that Sears Tower? No, Sears is now called something that starts with a W. I know what it is. I just don't want to say it. I like that. Sears Tower is Sears Tower. John Hancock is over on Michigan Avenue. Like 900.

What do you got against Willis? Huh? The Willis Tower. I don't know. What's Willis talking about? Yeah. Never. He's never answered that question.

He never does. To my satisfaction. He never says, here's what I'm talking about. Okay. You want to know what I'm talking about? Right. This is what Willis is talking about. I can't see a show about communication.

There's got to be a magazine article from some time in the last 40 years that's like, what Willis is talking about. Yeah. Like, the Bruce Willis story or something. Bruce Willis comes clean. Oh. All right. What are you talking about, Phyllis?

Phyllis Diller, an intimate portrait. Ooh, hello. What are you talking about Phyllis? Phyllis Diller, an intimate portrait So we have a Very strange crime story From Florida So we have all the Little details Because it's Florida The headline is out there So I'm just going to describe what happened

Apparently this woman she was arrested because her boyfriend was found in a suitcase dead and when the cops said they're like yo what's going on here she said oh you know we're playing a little drunken game of getting the fucking suitcase apparently we're like they were both drunk and like I guess taking turns getting in the suitcase. But when he got in, she admitted that she zipped the man in the suitcase and then went upstairs and then, like, woke up. Like, she passed out. And then when she got there, he was dead inside this suitcase. But that was just the beginning because the investigators, obviously, like,

they, you know, took her in. They take her phone. They find two different videos that may indicate that this may have just been a murder so yeah not like it's like you know a drunken game of getting the suitcase went awry right so they said one video shows uh the man in the suitcase just yelling saying he can't breathe while she's like laughing no yeah um and she's like laughing at his like screams and then he's like i can't breathe while she's like laughing no yeah um and she's like laughing at his like screams and then he's like i can't fucking breathe seriously he facetimed her from inside no no she was

videotaping him yeah yeah yeah um and then but this is this is where it gets out of this a little bit darker so she's saying yeah that's what you like that's what you do when you choke me she said that's on you oh that's what i feel like when you cheat on me and they were like so then the cops there's a moment this in the write-up there the She said, that's on you. Oh, that's what I feel like when you cheat on me. And they were like, so then the cops, there's a moment. In the write-up, the investigators were grilling her about it. And then the line, it says, she does admit that, quote, it did, quote, look bad. And now she's being charged with a second degree murder. I know this looks bad.

Right. I don't know what that means. Of course she is. That happens in movies, and the people end up proving their innocence. Yeah. But I don't think that's a good thing to say to the police when you're being interrogated. No. Look, I get it.

This looks really bad. But you don't play suitcase zippy-uppy? Right. This is what I think. He cheated on her. Uh-huh. She wanted to get him back. Or sometimes in their, hopefully, mostly or consensual sex he chokes her

more than she wants at least it seems like from what she said so she devised oh i'll get in the suitcase and then he'll get in the suitcase and then i won't let him out and then he died maybe by accident but then she just wanted to not take ownership over any of it now it's all falling apart or he was like it was a straight-up abusive relationship, and she decided to just off him like that. Come on with that. Lean into that. But you'd think that would be explained.

Say that. You want to know what happened here? It's like, yeah, this guy's a monster, and I had to protect myself. I didn't mean to kill him, but I was trying to get him back. Yeah, you had to fuck with him. I'm just trying to think of how that plan

goes in her mind ahead of time. How do you get somebody to voluntarily climb into a suitcase? Because you've got to go first. But why is it even a thing? Let's see if we both fit in a suitcase. I would stupidly walk into that truck. You would be like, if someone brought out a big-ass suitcase. Bet you can't fit into the suitcase.

I'm so claustrophobic I wouldn't get in but the i'm stupid enough the principle the idea i could get stuck it into something like let's see if we can walk across this like yeah yeah like it appeals to like stupid human experiments basically and i think too if like if the woman was like smaller but she was so small in the suitcase he's like i, I bet I could. She's like, I bet you could fit in this thing. He's like, yeah, probably. You're drunk. You pass out. I don't know. So that story is developing.

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to pray the coronavirus away. Mother, what should mother what should we do that's what many people well a lot of people also worried is like a lot of the scientists at the cdc that he might have to work with many are women so they're like so his mother gonna have to like accompany him i know but i guess he just can't be alone so as long as there's other aids they'll be fine um but so you know in a health crisis like this there's like like the CDC, the Health and Human Services Department. Alex Azar, who runs that, was caught off guard when suddenly Mike Pence was put in charge of it because he was like, oh, this. Oh, OK. So he'll do it.

That's fine. At the press conference. He's like, wait, what? Like almost like, damn, really? So if you look at his record a lot of people the first thing they're saying is like he is not good when it comes to anything resembling an epidemic or anything resembling having to like believe science um so you know first i just want to set the table uh like in 2000 he wrote this is from an op-ed he wrote in 2000 about cigarettes despite

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Boom. Solved. Yeah. So that's where he comes from on that one. Maybe someone from Philip Morris hooked him up with a bit of a donation. A donation. So now we should take a look at some of his previous experiences with handling health crises. look at some of his previous experiences with handling health crises.

So as like a congressman and governor, he's always been trying to defund Planned Parenthood because of he's, you know, obviously pro or anti-choice is actually what you should say. Right. Because he just wants to completely do away with abortions. And as he was successfully able to do that as governor, he's,

I think a lot, he didn't realize that Planned Parenthood does more than just perform abortions yeah so at the time why educate yourself on something you hate don't need to because i don't like it right if i read about it i might like it or i don't even know about it because of a person why would i try and understand something right exactly um even though i'm in a leadership role but hey who am i to judge um so in scott's in scott county one of the planned parenthoods that closed um like sort of it led to a hiv outbreak because a lot of the hiv testing was happening at this facility um and there was no longer a place for like the 24 000 people who lived there to go get any kind of testing um and 20 of the residents are living below the poverty line. Intravenous drug use is like pretty prevalent.

Um, so that only increases the risk of an HIV outbreak. Uh, two years later, he's like in full blown epidemic mode. Um, because again, the opioid crisis was even ramping up more. People were doing intravenous drugs, sharing needles, and you guessed it, more HIV infections. So a lot of people at the time were like, please, just set up a needle exchange for people who are using so they can at least get sterile needles if they're using drugs. Don't make it worse. In the beginning, he was very, very resistant to it or he didn't want to promote drug use as he saw it.

He's like, well, if you do that then it's okay to do drugs. He promotes two things, thoughts and prayers. And he was kind of like, yeah, if they just know it's bad

maybe they'll just stop doing it. His mentality around even addiction was really archaic. And then once he finally relented and the needle exchange was opened it the infection rates immediately began to decrease and he's like all right i guess you

can like open a couple more around the state then uh and they did so and then like even after all that like a group of uh specialists in this were like this was the most preventable epidemic like ever just purely because of like this narrow focus on uh abortions like all this other the knock-on effect that he completely ignored or just didn't think was that big of a concern uh was exacerbated so and now he's in charge of the beach bear beach beer virus yeah exactly yeah as he sees it i mean i can only imagine what he if he wants to do it i don't know like was he asking to do this? Or is Trump just sort of, like, realizing now,

I can't have, like, people who, like, are going to tell me scary stuff about science. So I want somebody who can just, like, smile the darkness away. You still think there's a 100% chance that he's the VP by the end of this year? Yeah, I think so. We'll see how he does on this coronavirus thing. That's what I was wondering. I mean, that would... chance that he's the VP by the end of this year? Yeah. We'll see how he does on this coronavirus thing.

That's what I was wondering. I mean, that would... It could be Trump just being like, here, hold this bag. Fall guy. Doesn't coronavirus feel like when you watch a disaster movie and they bring you up to speed on how the world went to shit by showing you headlines?

Right, right, right. Doesn't coronavirus feel like one of the headlines? They didn't know at first what had happened and how bad it was going to get? Right. I'm not casual about coronavirus. No, no, no, not at all. I think it's definitely disconcerting when you look at how the government has made it a lot harder to deal with it, especially with all the defunding of basic human health services and getting rid of people in the National Security Council who are the people who give you a heads up. The guy in California thought he had coronavirus and had to wait, what, four days?

Right. They wouldn't let him test because he didn't fit the criteria, which was like being in contact with someone who has coronavirus. Can the criteria be, I think I have coronavirus? Yes, because the person who just got diagnosed in Brazil was traveling from Italy. Right, yeah. Yeah, it's a really good way to not be ahead of the curve when it comes to fighting the disease. Lackadaisical. ahead of the curve when it comes to fighting the disease.

It's like, yeah, you're just like using whatever the past, like the reported versions are to adjust your criteria for, but I guess testing is in short supply. So that's why they have to, you know, be strict about who they're willing to let take the test in the first place, which again goes back to what we've talked about about the cdc being uh being underfunded and all those issues um cutting down on pandemic research like trump yeah we don't need that yeah of course i don't care it's hard for him to care about anything that's directly in front of him right usually that's a big mac right and then

for pence i also worry about the i i just don't think pence is one of our brighter politicians and i also think that he you know that millennialist uh version of christianity that is looking for the end times and you know is excited about the end times really worries me anytime you have somebody like that in in charge of fighting something that is this you know potentially apocalyptic uh yeah just it's funny like the tool you need to successfully combat this is science right and money and they don't want to use either. So that's when I'm like, but it is interesting theory there.

Just to be the fall guy. He's like, you see how I set him up? Yeah. He's like, I knew it wasn't contained. Yeah. And I think anytime people talk about Pence. Because he doesn't need Indiana. Right.

And also anytime people talk about Pence positively, it pisses Trump off because his self-esteem is a zero-sum game. And Pence is just so stressed out. I was like, I didn't even say anything, man. Why are you praising me? It gets me in trouble. There's no way that he volunteered for this. Trump definitely was like...

What's funny is it doesn't matter who the VP is. His supporters are going to support him either way. So it could literally be like, and my running mate was that guy from the Philadelphia Flyers. Jeremy Ronan? No. Wow, I completely fucked that joke up. No, you didn't. Because now we all get to play the game and fans are yelling at their phone.

They're like, oh, oh. The guy from the Philadelphia Flyers? Scrummy. Scringby. That's your dog's name. Scringby. Scruffy? Scrummy? Oh man, I feel so bad for the Zeitgeist. He looks like Gritty.

Gritty! Of course. Nailed it. We never lost. So many people who listen to the show are breathing right now. Gritty, baby. Gritty who didn't push that kid. And if you did that kid deserved it yeah totally or there's a desert didn't he say like punched him in the back almost yeah yeah god bless you and also this reminds me of katrina like obviously it's still very early stages of the complete fuck up by the trump administration but again it's like we know that

this is an incompetent administration oh yeah the the only way they have remained viable as a presidential administration is through culture warshit and like it's going to take a huge, very dangerous situation for the real stakes to be exposed, I think, to the rest of America. So hopefully this is not that because I don't want to die personally. I agree. I'm very not casual about coronavirus. I mean, they're saying a lot of the cases that they're seeing are not intense or extreme but they're saying that's going to actually like make it easier to spread because people aren't going to be so sick that they're like yo i gotta i gotta take it easy

right well and it's 20 times as deadly as the flu so it's not depending on yeah what your immune system is right right like just in terms of on a person-to-person basis, you're 20 times more likely to die from coronavirus than the flu, which is, you know, not good because, as we've talked about, the flu kills a lot of people. It's just, you know, had millennia to spread, so that's why it kills so many more people than the coronavirus now. But coronavirus is something that and like also like don't be an isolationist like yeah if you think that oh well if we keep it out of here

we're fine what it can do to our economy if it like shuts down other countries this can be almost in some ways as catastrophic i mean they say 60 of manufacturing is already feeling it in this or 60 of businesses that are like that have any kind of business remotely related to that region of the world are feeling it already uh but hey you know that's uh now that we have like pence on the the squad and basically gagging like scientists to be like don't talk about anything unless you're running by mike pence that's like it's fucking dangerous and then you couple that too with like hey mike mike just want to talk to you real quick so we figured some things out. Okay.

None of them have to do with prayer. Are you still interested? Nope. None of them have to do with prayer? Mm-mm. Then I want to talk about none of those things. Okay. All right, see you later.

Later. So I'm going to tell everybody everything's under control. Yeah, the fact that they've put a gag order out on government health experts speaking about coronavirus is terrifying. Yeah, they don't want... put a gag order out on government health experts speaking about coronavirus is terrifying. Unless you clear it by Pence. It's like the cops from

Die Hard. The other fucking dimension of this too is when you think about a health crisis like this is how many people actually don't have access at all to good health care or are able to be like, hey, I have to take work off for two weeks to quarantine myself. How many people have health care and or go to the doctor the moment they feel a little sick?

Right. Nobody. Nobody. Yeah. Everybody thinks, is it bad enough that like i'm gonna have to go one of the reasons i pay for a and luckily i can but i pay for a higher grade plan is so that it almost costs me nothing to go to the doctor oh there's no barrier to so every time i go every time i a little part of me needs to go i go because i'm like well it's gonna cost me five

bucks or 15 bucks like okay i might well. That's what I pay for. But if you don't. And that's a lot of people. And then how many people, even if you do have health care, is your job going to keep you on when you're like, I think I can't come in? Are they going to make concessions? Are they going to have meetings in the boardrooms of these bigger companies being like,

can we afford to pay these people? I'm sure they can. But do we want to keep paying these people or i'm sure they can but do we want to keep paying these people or just completely boot them off of like china's still on lockdown right their city's still in lockdown there still are some cities yeah yeah yeah so like how are those people paying rent and then how are they going to pay the rent they owe when they get to go back to work and they don't have money like yeah well i think the this is where it all starts to fall sure sure sure yeah and i guess when you look at the even what the uh health czar alex azar was saying to congress because you know he was he runs hhs and people are like hey we need to talk like what's the

fucking deal here what's the plan because we're not we're not convinced you guys know what's going on alex wasn't the guy who said we don't have enough masks or at first didn't want to answer that question uh alex is the one who couldn't guarantee that if there was a coronavirus vaccine that it would be affordable for people. Yeah. So Jan Schakowsky from the state of the great state of Illinois was asking him this question and his answer is so fucking cynical. Okay. Keep in mind this guy was a former pharmao who at a certain point doubled the price of insulin um when he was being confirmed they were like hey how do we know you're just not gonna like fucking just be a buddy to the people in the pharma industry because the swap was drained

miles aren't you paying attention yeah exactly so listen to him now when shakowsky's asking like hey we've got like if there's a vaccine what's plan here? And is it going to be ready for everyone? Because that's the only way we're going to knock this out. This is his masterful answer. If we affirm, then you're saying it will for sure be affordable for anyone who needs it. I'm saying we would want to ensure that we work to make it affordable, but we can't control that price because we need the private sector to invest. The priority is to get vaccines and therapeutics. Price controls won't get us there.

Mr. Secretary, thank you. Oh, man. I love when someone tells you what they'd like to say. Yeah. Mom, Dad, can I borrow the car? I would like to say that you will be able to borrow the car, but we're not at the point yet where you need it. So until you need it,

and I can ensure that everybody is fine with you having it, I can't answer that question. Okay. Right, right, right. Yeah. I'd like to say you could borrow it. I'd love to say this would be affordable for everyone. I would love that.

Also, what's affordable? Affordable is relative. I mean, look, what are we talking about? Some people think a Jaguar is affordable. Break that word down. Animal and car. A Ford? Right.

Have you driven a Ford lately? Right. I don't know. I can't answer that. No, that's a good point. people think a jaguar is affordable break that word animal and car a ford right ford have you driven a ford lately right i don't know i can't answer that no that's a good point but yeah like when you look at just how how dire things could possibly get and then these are the the answers that we're getting right it's it's oh you can't help but be like really cynical about the whole thing um well let's talk about how we're going to solve this problem in the long run how we are going to uh get donald trump and mike pence out of office uh luckily again we're in the capable hands of the democratic national committee uh and they are willing to give the nomination to whoever they want uh that's how democracy works, right?

Yeah. Yeah. So the Times spoke with like 93 superdelegates, basically. And we're like... 93 party officials. Yeah. Who are the superdelegates for whatever states they're representing. And they're all just sort of like, yeah, man, you know, if we have to go to a second vote,

I can't say we're going to grant all of our delegates to the person on top so we'll see and all kinds of names are floating around they found they found overwhelming opposition to handing uh bernie sanders the nomination if he arrived with the most delegates but fell short of a majority yeah overwhelming opposition so it's like that's just not gonna happen like he's not gonna get like because these are the people who would determine right like if it gets there so unless he blows it out in all of these primaries and pulls up to the convention with the majority then it's uh i would say that there could be some kind of fuckery going on. Let me ask you guys a question.

I apologize for how many times you've probably volunteered it, been asked it, or already answered it. Could Biden win? Oh, God, no. You don't think he could win? You don't think he could? You don't think he could win? You don't think idiots in...

60,000 idiots in Wisconsin. God bless you, Wisconsin. I love you. But that was about the margin. 27, I think. 27. Okay, even worse. 27,000 think. 27. Okay, even worse. 27,000 idiots.

Wouldn't be like, I don't know, he was all right. I didn't hate Barack. The problem is there's a lot of people who are so invested in sweeping change in this election and the stakes depending on what- I'm not saying I want Biden either. No, no, I know that. But I'm saying i don't i have a feeling like this is what i mean like so right now i think when you look at all

the polling and a lot of the momentum is behind bernie sanders if that were to suddenly change that would deflate a lot of the excitement that's already there to beat trump but are you talking about the middle when you talk about that what do you mean because aren't the people like us gonna vote no matter what yeah i'm talking about the middle i'm talking about the 2000 the 537 dumb people in florida hanging chats i'm talking about like like the people who aren't racist aren't uh angry but are probably not that smart who voted for trump because they just wanted to see what he could do and now they definitely are like okay okay, he's an idiot. I don't like him anymore.

Who's the person that they're going to go, but I'll vote for her or him. Who is that? Because it might be Pete. I don't know. I know. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard for me to even think about that because I'm so, at this point, I'm like, I fucking would hate to have to vote for any of those people.

But yeah, I don't know. That's, I mean, it is a good question, but I think when you look at just the, what the excitement has been and the, like how diverse like the coalitions have been around certain candidates, I'm like, I don't know. There's it's, it's tough to think that Buttigieg could like put together like those votes and really motivate like,

like African-American voters to turn out for him. Yeah. That's why I think Biden and Sanders are the only ones who really have like the diversity to, of both like, you know, racial diversity, but also like socioeconomic diversity.

But the risk is right. The democratic party, as we know it is done either way. Yes. Because if Bernie Sanders does take the nomination, it's going to change like as the dnc establishment people see it that they've lost the party this is what i just told somebody oh sorry and then if but then if they if they manipulate things and bernie ends up being

the person who has more uh delegates going into the convention and they give it to somebody else it's going to fracture a lot of the more progressive people that are just voting Democrat because it's just the left-ish most party that's available. Right. And I think that could really lead to a third party coming out of it. Or there's a lot of energy where people are not going to forgive because a lot of people look at the stakes are sort of like we have people who cannot afford to live we have people who cannot afford to go to school and educate themselves and have no upward

social mobility that every person who is not talking about radical change is fine sort of maintaining this situation we're in or maybe slight improvements here and there but not the kinds where like people are like like literally literally dying for something way better than this. And I think as people become more aware of how these things are working and how the class structure is within this country, they're seeing like, nah, man, this other thing is bullshit. So I don't know. Because we already have socialism.

We already have economic socialism for billionaires. The government says, we'll take care of all this stuff so you don't have to pay anything to fail right right so we'll help you out the thing really quickly that i'll just say is i told a recently told a family member of mine who has voted republican almost their entire life but and voted for trump out of that ignorance of like well maybe it won't be that bad but it's not like i don't want to vote for him i said if if we don't elect a democratic this is gonna be good for the republican party that you love if we don't get a democratic president if we if we do get one in four years in 2024 the republicans are gonna go all right we need to come

back to the middle here a little bit because we got told in 2020 that they were enough of trump but if we get trump again then that's just going to tell the republican party stay on this hate train because they like it they want it if you if you are somebody who's a middle-ish republican who just doesn't like trump but kind of always what's really vote democratic because you're going to get closer back to your party in another four years otherwise they're going to go in 2024 and be like all right who's the next hate who's the next man or woman of hate? Yeah, yeah. The hate brand is working.

Yes, but you need to send that signal in 2020 and be like, you got to come back because I don't want to be all the way over here just lighting up tiki torches. Just listening to people who've been paying attention to this election and to where the energy is, I had assumed that the democratic uh mainstream like

the party officials wouldn't have like they would recognize how damaging and counterproductive it would be to have sanders get the most votes and still and get the you know most delegates but like take the nomination away from him but this this article just really drives it home that it's they're not living in the same reality that the people who are voting in a lot of cases are um and and it seems like the new york times is fully on board like this is you know i was not uh in like strongly in the clinton or sanders uh like behind either of those candidates really i wasn't like prior to 2016 i wasn't that plugged into politics you're a republican but yeah I was a Republican 100% and then... As an abolitionist. Yeah.

Yeah. But now I kind of can see what it's like to have... What people complain about when they talk about a mainstream media bias, because it's just... It's wild. They end the second paragraph of this article saying and officials in the national and state parties are increasingly anxious about splinter primaries on super tuesday and beyond where the liberal mr sanders edges out moderate candidates who collectively

win more votes so they're already saying that like all the other candidates should be allowed to pull all their votes against bernie sanders and that's how the that's how the democratic mainstream should think about it well because it's weird too like i don't know where you put warren supporters too because they're pretty like clear on who they wouldn't vote for either because like on the sort of spectrum of like radical change like she's just like she's also kind of a bit on of an Island herself because she's not as like, she's not saying like, yeah, like let's let,

you know, let's let the healthcare system rock the way it is. We'll figure it out. Let's, let's not go too wild on the taxes for the, like, she's not, she's not part of that sort of ideology.

So I'm curious to know like how they factor in, if they can just lump all those people together, that suddenly they're going to be motivated. I mean, obviously I think most people who understand the stakes will have to hold their nose and vote for whoever it is based on what the nominee ends up being. But the problem is, I just think that they're really toying with a deflated electorate if something like that happens. And it's just so contested. It's just going to start more infighting you get out in a deal where if biden gets the nomination and wins

he will have a very contested re-election in 2024 from within his own party a primary oh yes yeah yeah it'll get hit from the left yes exactly uh and you know I think the other thing about this article it's almost like they're trying to suppress or make voters like a little less

enthusiastic by putting articles out like this which I think is in a way if I'm being really cynical that's like the most cynical read

is like they're doing this to keep people from voting during the primaries and making sure there's enough steam for like moderate voters doing this to keep people from voting uh during the primaries and making sure there's enough steam for like moderate voters or whatever to get to to actually make it to the polls and other people might just be like man fuck it like if you read this you go fuck this they're gonna fucking steal it anyway what the fuck well their worldview is so cynical that like it can't

help but do that i mean i think that is where energy is coming from, is that for the first time there's something like candidates, or a candidate on the left, depending on your feelings about Warren, who aren't just saying what they think will get them the most votes within the Democratic sort of contingent of the of american electoral politics it's not like a calculation it's actually based on you know some beliefs and you know it just seems like it's more of a simple straightforward thing and i think people are tired of that and um yeah i don't know it seems like it's no longer viable to do the sort of politics that the Democratic Party still wants to do. Agreed. But well, yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. We'll see what happens. Worry is that. No, I just think people just need to make sure you go to vote whenever your primary is because really when you look at it, the more and more you look at it, the stakes are for the sort of mainstream media elite class

or people who are fortunate enough to be college educated, have six-figure incomes, and probably don't interact with many people who are vulnerable in terms of whether that's because of their sexual orientation, identity, gender, whatever, their class. Those people, I think, are pretty much in denial, I think, about how bad life can be for others.

Very much. And they look at it and go, oh, I think the world is bad because I think a couple black and brown kids get shot per year by police. There's really violent anti-trans laws out there, whether it's to like punish doctors who uh facilitate any kind of medical procedure for them or you know and like and i think it's bad for a couple kids who live like that are at the border in cages you know what trump's gonna end that before that election what do you mean he's gonna reunite families before the election

oh you think it's like the yeah he's waiting he is waiting like said he's waiting until july but all he has to do is say it and it's not gonna change but all he has to do is say it. It's not going to change, but all he has to do is around July, maybe September, he'll be like, I'm putting families back together. Then you'll have all these dumb Republicans who are like, well, he did it. That's good. I'm really glad he finally did that. Well, yeah.

It's hard to see. I guess the thing is when I read pieces like this, they don't realize how many people are motivated because they feel like the future their own futures are on the line that where four more years of trump is like unbearable and they can only it's only a bleak future comes after that um and that's why they're going out for candidates who are like true change candidates because they need to be like see every other person isn't diagnosing the systemic problems that are affecting my life so negatively and if you can't articulate that as a candidate you can't fix it right right so the only people that can are the ones that articulate it and the people that do articulate it they're like oh fuck you

know like what they're talking about wealth taxes or like other things like you read like some of the like the tweets out of the bloomberg like channel thing they're like so like the lack of awareness is amazing where it's like billionaires stand to lose a lot of money yeah under a president like warren or sanders administration right like yeah how much do you need yeah but again that's right but those are questions like we're not like we're just not or Sanders administration. Right. Like, yeah. How much do you need? Yeah. But again, that's right. But those are questions like we're not,

like we're just not really ready to confront or really ask ourselves because America's just been about accumulation like everything. Like how many TVs can you get? Like whatever.

Like how much land can we grab? Yeah. There's this story that we're going to talk about I think on Monday's episode that's about how Bloomberg fucked up the 2010 blizzard. I was in New York for that. And, like, they just never cleared a lot of the streets.

But his metric for success was that the Broadway shows were on. He was like, yeah, well, we got Broadway on. So and we had it on in record time. I feel like that's such a good metaphor for just how the mainstream media and how the Democratic Party thinks about it. They just look at the things that are being seen by tourists and being covered by the media, and that's all that matters. and like that's all that matters and they're not worried that like streets in queens and you know bed stye brooklyn like people are dying there because the ambulances can't get to them like it's it's wild and that ended up being like a historic one i think that's how you know is like you can tell how tapped in someone is when based on what their barometer for suffering is right for mike bloomberg bad a bad time is if you can't get to

a broadway show yeah right like that's the that's like oh what right because other things are abstract what do you mean your medications cost too much right right that's like i can it's not a problem it's affordable yeah exactly yeah yeah but oh god with broadway yeah i like to do that if i can't do that that, then something's got to be up. Right. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back.

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they're like, look, as coronavirus spreads, people will probably have to wear face piece respirators to cover their like mouths and noses to prevent any germs from coming, any bacteria. And they're basically saying like, if you got a beard or any facial hair around where the mask sits, it's not going to actually seal properly. Right. So it's becoming a germ highway, essentially.

But what's funny is how many different... Equipment made the cut, baby. Equipment made the cut, baby. Soul patch, baby. So if you're clean shaven, you're safe. And it got a green check. Yeah. There's only a few.

If somebody once told you the world is going to roll you, then you are fine. Soul patch works. You can have sideburns. That's fine. A little pencil stash.'s good if you want the little toothbrush or you know hitler i don't know how many people are still rocking that but they still had to include that have you guys you guys have broken down masks for everybody here right

if you are healthy the mask is doing nothing for you if you are sick that's what the mask is for it keeps your germs in the mask do not keep the bacteria completely out from you by wearing it's the greatest way to contain it if you're sick it is does almost nothing for you if you're healthy right well they again but you can't have a beard and keep others safe the one thing i think that's true yeah the one way i do think it helps is you like one of the ways that you can get sick is by like rubbing your nose or rubbing like getting like germs on your hands and then like getting them in your mouth and i think it's like you're just less likely to do absent like biting of the nails or like shit like that that would normally spread germs uh or picking your

nose or just like i just realized i'm doing right now yeah sure uh why don't we just start setting up like like portable hand washing washing stations in like every every entrance and exit to every airport every we kind of slash that budget right but like that's something we could do like when you get off the subway train in whatever major city you're in just right there yeah it's like you can't walk in and out of any room in a hospital without there being a place to sanitize your hands. Let's get out in front of that and just start putting them

at airports and major transportation centers. Wouldn't that be a good start? It's just right there in front of you that you have to walk around. You either do it or you're going to have to walk around it. Either way, you're being reminded, clean your fucking hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Masks are typically worn more in uh asian cultures than in the united states and that's something

that i think is probably not appreciated by a lot of people in the united states is that uh they're worn by people who are sick and don't want to spread the illness they're not like wearing it because they're afraid that you're sick or something yeah because that's how an american would wear right an american will wear it out of self-interest yeah people unless do it to not inconvenience other people yeah you're like i feel like and get me since sars i've i've seen it mass pretty consistently in la yeah it really since sars is when it feels like it's it really kind of became i mean like in japan it's just such a regular thing it's just a normal thing strap your mask on and then you don't have to worry about people being like

there's some really cute ones too yeah you can get some designer you can get some louis v's baby oh yeah little bathing ape masks you know do a tiktok dance video in one. Some Versace ones. Versace. One of my favorite brands. Versace. Yeah, anyways, there's some amazing hairstyles. It's got, what, 50, like, it's basically got, like, 50 different facial hairstyles. I was trying to count it. Am I roast?

Telling you the yeses and noes? Yeah, telling you the yeses and noes. But you can tell that it was a graphic designer who just, you know, the project got away from them and they were having way too much fun doing this. It looks like that match game. Yeah, it does.

Guess who? Yeah, exactly. Is it the guy with the Fu Manchu? Just some of these. Again, it almost feels like they just, all they need to do is do one diagram and say, no hair in this region. The Homer Simpson area.

Yeah. Keep your Homer Simpson area. And so if there's hair there, it's not good. But they're getting so specific where people are like, well, what if I have a circle beard versus an extended goatee it's like motherfucker just look at the thing right if mask is touching hair right don't fuck it ain't gonna walk in an old school barber shop they're like look at these pick one but what if i have lost style stubble yeah about us yeah people like sawyer level no good stubble no good you just gotta stay clean shaven the whole time?

Clean shaven, soul patch. I've always... It's been a long time since I was clean shaven. What do you call these things? Sideburns. Sideburns. You want some of these milk sideburns? For Billy Madison.

And mustaches, basically. Or you could rock the Zappa. Right. You know what I mean? Can you do the John Waters mustache? Probably because it's close to the lip, right? Yeah, very close to the lip. Yeah, as long as it's not coming out the sides.

You know, if you're going with, like, the Salvador Dali vibes, then sorry. Sorry, Salvador. The handful of times that I've had, like, a long beard or, like, a long mustache. You look great with a beard, Jack. Oh, man. It is so gross, gross though because i end up like sucking on it oh don't do that clean up that patch gross uh and also like yeah it's just food in there i'm also a very sloppy person it's like i found a chicken wing in there once you did

and a chicken yeah chicken oh yeah and it was connected to the rest of a chicken. Yeah, and he was like, dude, stop pulling my wing, bro. Amazon has opened the human-less grocery store. Better than a human grocery store where you buy humans. But still, this feels a little bit post-apocalyptic. It's called the grab-and-go concept. Yeah. I mean, they had the other one.

They had that convenience store store yeah right places uh where it's like all monitored by cameras right so it's basically that same exact vibe where like you sign in when you walk into you walk in scan your qr code from your amazon tattoo that's on your the base of your skull when they walk in they scan you in um and then from there, like, what's... So, same thing. Tracks your movements, knows when you pick stuff up, immediately starts calculating it. Once you walk out, boom, it just charges you.

They do have some people there, obviously, like, stock the shelves and, like, answer any questions. But, you know, like, the thing is, that has more than, like, those convenience stores that are mostly just, like, snacks and shit. This is, like, you know, full-on produce and all kinds of other stuff. So get your meats, your beers, what have you, and walk out without having to interact with a human. That's the thing.

That's the selling point. But that's the death. Yeah. That's the death of us. It's interesting. One of the most effective ways to torture a prisoner of war is like lack of human interaction yeah and now we're just integrating it into our life yeah it's like well it's cheaper man if i can just pay build these cameras to scan you i still go to the bank to deposit checks on you don't use a mobile app no

fuck no i want to go out and talk to somebody on a moment by moment basis it's hard for me to realize that i need human contact like i think i would like fall into this trap i know that's the sad thing yeah right like that's why we're all like it's super comfortable and gives you something to do like just like your phone like you just like look down at your phone instead of interact with someone but you ever wonder that like at a party you're at like a you know we usually have a lot of them around the holidays and things we get invited to and stuff like that i'm constantly at parties bro and you say to yourself like i'll just get up you know get on my phone i don't know anybody here yet or the people i do know haven't showed up and then i think to myself if this was 1994 what would i do what would i do right now i guess i'd either stand here quietly and then maybe i'd end up talking to someone or

I would just go talk to someone. Right. Like I've tried, I'll try to do that sometimes because you can just run away into your screen. Oh, it's so easy. And then you're unapproachable. Yeah, of course. Right. I think it's, I've, I've really tried to like do that less because I realized how easy it

is to avoid even like thinking by just going to your phone immediately. And be like, you know what? Like if I'm waiting for something, if like I'm in a line, it's so easy. Like, oh, fuck it. Let me open something up and read something, whatever. Right. Versus like just having your phone in there and be like, I can handle 10 minutes. And then just kind of look around.

Yeah. Take shit in. Yeah. Maybe talk to somebody. Think a little bit. Mm-hmm. And not having it be such a, not that it's maybe talk to somebody, think a little bit, and not having it be such a, not that it's terrifying, but a thing where it's like, I'd rather not.

You know what I mean? I think it's about trying to make that less of a reflex. For me, it's terrifying. When somebody walks up to me, I go, oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, boy. You're going to love this. Oh, boy.

Oh, boy. They're looking at me. Oh, jeez, Jack going to love this. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. They're looking at me. Oh, geez, Jack. Don't blow it. And you say all this loud. Sir, your pizza's ready. Oh, thank you. Oh, man.

That was a close one. I hate it, Jack. Sir, you're still in here and you're still talking. Yes. There's a pretty good thread on Reddit that I've been checking out for the past couple days. It's basically the thread is what is the coolest website you visited that nobody knows about? There's just a couple of cool things on there. There's one that is temp-mail.org, which instantly gives you an unused email address you can use to do whatever you want.

So you can always have an email address that they're ready to troll people, I guess. It's definitely good for people who make content to know that that exists. So you can be like, ah, that's probably just a troll made-up email address. It's so easy to generate an email address these days the other one free sandbox free sandbox is seal s-a-n-d-s-p-i-e-l dot club it's so simple like ms paint stuff but like there's like the physics of like you can build like a wall or water and it'll just like hang it'll grow plants you can drop it's like so it reminds me of like how simple like early flash games just used to be able to

like take you away yeah um so yeah the thread is pretty interesting uh because i find myself growing a lot of weird fake flowers and then i just want to find a site where i can play snood and then i just want to find a site where i can play snood yeah snood was great uh there's one site uh called neil.fun uh which i think is just like a single like designer who like makes these little experiences but uh so like one of the pages is called printing money made by neil agarwal and it like the dollars pass by at the rate that you make them in these various professions so minimum wage 7.25 per hour the dollars would go moving very slow teacher 16 per hour software engineer then you get down to fortune 500 ceo and it's four thousand dollars an hour uh and it just yeah just moves incredibly fast.

Yeah, and then a good way to not have the backs, not caping for a billionaire when you look how fast that money moves, if you just put, well, what's the hourly pay when I break that down? The money's flying across. Scroll down to Amazon revenue. Amazon's revenue is Walmart's revenue. Holy shit. It reminds me of those old Disney or Looney Tunes cartoons

where there would be a factory line. It's like... It's like it's flying by. Dude, we can't turn it off. And I always have that song in my head, man. U.S. military spending, $84 million an hour. Walmart revenue. Yeah, so revenue.

Walmart is actually one of the biggest. I think it is the biggest company in the world just in terms of the revenue it drives. Just grocery stores and chain stores like that have high overhead. $514 billion in 2019. Yeah, the revenue is insane. A half trillion fucking dollars.

Yeah. You know what Costco did? $ 152 billion oh really amazon did 232 like what are the waltons doing i don't know man they're they're hoarding their money yeah you know what i mean and then and then again like go kill some board john boy yeah or just being like you know what? Also, underpay our workers too and then the government can figure out filling the gaps for the rest. But also, we're not interested in our part in that equation.

There's also a webpage that tells you how all the different things that have happened since your birth date. Here, let's do yours, Dan. What's your birth date? All right. A lot has happened in the days since you were born.

Well, that's just cool. Now I know the days. Yeah. 1,623,000,000 times your heart has pumped. Well, except for the time I met the love of my life. Stop. Then it stopped. It was really bad, actually.

He's taken 289,000, my life. Stop. Then it stopped. It was really bad, actually. You've taken 289 million breaths. Wow. Blinked 312 million times. You've spent 4,816 days of your life asleep. There have been 3 trillion people, 3.2 trillion people born. There's 21% more CO2 in the atmosphere. And because of inflation,

what you used to be able to buy with a dollar when you were born is now $3.12 today. Wow. And it keeps on going. What's that site called? This is all neal.fun. N-E-A-L dot F-U-N slash life hyphen stats. I'd love to find a site where I just look at mid-century modern furniture.

Yeah. That's called Pinterest. No. You can look at a lot of mid-century on there. I always get screwed around on that. What are you in there? You want a Corbusier Barcelona chair? They always jerk me around on Pinterest.

A Gucci table? Papa Bear chair, dude. Oh. You know what a Papa Bear chair is? No. You get one of those with the matching ottoman? I'm on a mission in my life. someday have a pop-up bear chair. They're the best.

You really like that one? Look at that. You don't want to go climb into a conversation den with one of those? I'm a big whore for the Eames lounge chair with the ottoman. The Eames is great. The Eames is great. Look at that pop-up bear chair. Look at it.

Damn, that shit. That's what's funny when you look at these chairs. These's prices six thousand dollar chair that's the real one god i have a pair of real mid-century chairs that were in a doctor's office from the 50s and uh there's they're actually in illinois i need to get them out to la but uh we had them in our family like nobody yeah it's especially like in the 80s people really didn't give a fuck because everyone was like into like cocaine furniture basically is there a mirror on this yeah it do coke it's like exactly like is there a hidden coke slot in here right but like i remember my dad would go places and he would look for like like old injection molded eames chairs and stuff like he would just be

somewhere and like flip the chair over to see like the injection mold imprint yeah and if it said eames he'd be like you selling this and they're like like ah it's like from whenever. He's like okay can I take them? And they're like yeah. And he was like hoarding them. This is great furniture. Yeah. I want a Papa Bear chair. We'll put a fund together. We'll share it. Share custody of the Papa Bear chair.

I'm down. Well Daniel it's been a pleasure having you as always. Where can people find you, follow you, experience you? Well I will start out by saying that every member of the Zeit gang that I've ever met has been phenomenal. So kudos to you guys for creating a great place for people to hang and talk about what's going on. I say that because so many people come up to me, and I love when they do. So if you're going to be one, don't stop the fun. They come up to me and talk to me after shows.

So I love meeting people who listen to the show. Thank you to you guys for providing this outlet. Thanks. The opportunities to come do that are April 11th, 13th, and 14th. I will be headlining Caps. I'm sorry. March 11th, 13th, and 14th.

I'm headlining Cap City Comedy Club that weekend. There's also fun events going on for the film portion of South by Southwest, which is why there's a weird break up there. But you can come see me. And then on the, I think it's 19th, 20th, and 21st, we are touring Dumb People Town,

my podcast that I do with the Sklar Brothers. And you can see us in Minneapolis, St. Louis, and Milwaukee. And then in April, I will be back in Chicago doing a Live Pen Pals with Rory Scoville and a stand-up show at the Lincoln Lodge on the 18th of April.

Go to Daniel Van Kirk for all that stuff. And if you are hearing me because of what's right now, say hi after the show. Yeah. He doesn't bite. Unless you ask. Hard. Was that Austin Powers? Yes. I don't bite. you ask hard unless you was that austin powers

yes i don't bite oh jeez what a great generation of terrible dad jokes uh and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying yes you know what it was it came through via me is that okay um a woman reached out and said, I know this is a long shot. She just threw this up into Twitter. She said, I know this is a long shot. Is there anybody in Rochelle, Illinois that could help a World War II veteran set up his television? And so somebody saw that and said, I know a comic from Rochelle, Illinois. I bet he would help. And so then I said, I guarantee I can get this done.

And through the joy of my family members and the internet, we went over went over to a 98 year old world war two veterans house and got 98 year old, his TV hooked up so that he could start watching Westerns again. And it all came about through Twitter and social media. If you scroll back through my feed, you'll be able to see pictures of Bert and me trying to get someone to help them. And it all worked out.

That's amazing. Yeah, it was really cool. Uh, miles, where can people find you? Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Grey

and on my other podcast with Sophia Alexandra for 20 Day Fiance because a new season of 90 Day Fiance just started so get our takes on that. Some tweets that I like. You've been speechless lately after some of those.

Oh, 100%. A couple. Joey Clift, past guest at Joey Tainman. Love Joey. I received three Bloomberg mailers in the mail yesterday and if this tweet gets 1,000 likes, I will eat them. He got 1.3 thousand. 1,300 likes on that. He did? So he is going to be preparing them

and he will be eating them and it will be a video. Joey! Joey and I were on a UCB team together. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Dope. Another one is from Yedoya Travis, Professor Doye, on Twitter. He says,

The worst thing that has ever happened to me is once some friends were riffing outside a comedy club and I joined in and Eric Andre stopped the whole riff and said, What was that? Is that a thing people say? And he expected an answer. Wait, about something they had said? Like in the crew,

I don't know. That would shake anyone to their core. Another one from Dana Donnelly, rule with all my white boyfriends is for every white guy movie we watch, Fight Club, Godfather, Stepmom, we have to watch the only movie I feel represented in, Lilo and Stitch, five times.

Cullen Crawford, hello Cullen, tweeted, If you ask me, Romeo and Juliet should be called two dipshits. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on miles. What's that going to be? I've been on a Steve Lacey kick since we played that track with him in Thundercat. This is from his album that came out last year, Apollo 21. And this track's called Playground.

Again, his music is like so, I don't know, his music and his production is very joyful. They have, you know, they've got that dimension to it. And this track, Playground, is just like, I don't know, I see myself playing on a playground with stars in my eyes. And it's not because of the drugs. So I'm having a good time. Speaking of Apollo 21, Creed 3 is coming out.

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