The Daily Zeitgeist - The Thin Trend Line 5/9: Biden/Israel, Scott Perry, Shohei Ohtani, Eurovision

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

In this edition of The Thin Trend Line, Jack and Miles discuss Joe Biden threatening to stop sending bombs to Israel if they "smash" into Rafah, Scott Perry claiming KKK is the 'military wing' of the Democratic Party, the Shohei Ohtani situation, the Eurovision Song Contest (feat. Israel's "October Rain"/"Hurricane")See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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2 000 pound and 500 pound bombs to israel so many bomb pounds he's publicly warned israel that the us like we will stop sending offensive weapons um if there is a major assault on rafa which is basically the like one of the last cities that has not been completely destroyed uh by the idf and he said to quote i made it clear that if they go into rafa i'm not supplying the weapons yeah um and then later on like when a sort of uh you know a national security council spokesperson they're like so what's the deal is ben said it's like well if they smash into rafa then we don't want to be a part of that we're watching very closely what they do if they do a precision knifing movement or pincer in yeah it's very vague and i mean like from everything you are reading there there's

definitely you know there's shit happening in rafa so it's not quite clear what he means and you know netanyahu has basically said israel can stand alone uh if they don't want to if the united states is not interested in providing any more offensive weapons and to be honest they're the stockpiles uh that israel already has uh thanks to partners like the united states it's like billions of dollars of bombs yeah like we have bombs so i i'm not quite sure i would love a little bit more texture here but again like i said yesterday it's like for every fucked up headline you get one of these things like i'm not i'm not i'm telling you if you go in there jack we're not sending no more bombs to you yeah um and now it's like well if they smash into rafa it's like this is so vague

yeah um that yeah we're yet to see what exactly that means and then again many other spokespeople uh like this you know this pentagon press secretary basically said it's like this doesn't mean like we're not gonna be standing by uh to to help defend uh israel so it's just a very it's a lot of a lot of you know uh many many many meaning statements that we get this is very fucking confusing yeah it's like they're using the same language like when the mainstream media will be like yeah the uh blasts have killed uh civilians we don't know who they're from or what caused the blast um in this case they're like uh you can't smash in which is like an arbitrary word that they can then choose their own definition for exactly it's like well

we don't consider that a smash it's like well from you know the earlier reports i read you know they're already you know civilians are already dying there are millions of lives uh at risk and they're using language that wouldn't be precise enough for like could you imagine if like the nba if their rules were like you just can't like smash him you know it's like this isn't a foul if you well you just like cut up to the ref you know which team he's a fan of yeah yeah you know a smash when you see it um you just can't like smash into them and we feel like that wasn't quite smashage it feels like they're like they're like edging with actually fucking doing something to see like is that is that changing the polling at all when i said like i won't send any more offensive weapon other ones yeah maybe

but just those ones did that work no all right let me let me let me jack it up a little bit. They smash into there. Uh, but yeah, the, it's again, it's all on the plane smashing. Yeah, exactly. Please define smashing a Biden administration because otherwise it, it tends to ring hollow. Yeah. All right. Uh, a Republican lawmaker has claimed that the KKK is the military wing of the Democratic

Party in closed-door meetings ahead of anti-Semitism hearings. This really feels like we're headed for just true hell with regards to anti-Semitism hearings about protests.

Like people protesting. It's a rhetorical hijacking. Killing of innocent people's a rhetorical hijacking of innocent people is what's happening rhetorical hijacking yeah i don't even understand what the kkk is the military so oh because he's trying to say like i mean that's southern democrats was that what is that is that the line that's trying no no no uh they're talking modern times uh the kkk in modern times oh oh a lot of young people think somehow it's a right-wing organization when it is the military wing of the Democratic Party.

Decidedly, unabashedly racist and anti-Semitic. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is all horse shit. Obviously, this bill where they're trying to codify what anti-semitism is and basically saying like well any anti-zionist speech uh will be anti-semitic I mean this yeah it my God it's like it doesn't help anyone it doesn't help anyone to put these like half like harebrained bills out there just to create the sort of optics

to again be like yeah because what you're seeing out there right now with all these students who are who are trying to express their their absolute fucking how sickened they are by being complicit as americans uh in this genocide that's we're just going to be like that's actually hate speech that's hate so that's bad yeah that's hate speech. So don't even listen. Yeah. Yeah. Good. Thought-killing cliches for 800, Alec.

I do think it's going to work with a certain portion of the population. It feels like that's the sort of... Well, because you have to really intellectually have your own analysis and what your perspective is. If you're just going to be like, oh, okay, so that's anti-Semitism. Okay. Yeah. Well, that that's bad don't do that um and not listening to what people are talking about again yeah spectacular failure and not failure the media is doing what it has to do it's it's upholding the status quo and just doing whatever it has to to keep people as um misinformed as possible when the fucking stakes couldn't

be higher for the 1.3 million people that are trapped right now. By the way, you did just inadvertently create a better name for Alex Trebek. I feel like Alec Trebek is a little bit better. Oh, yeah. It's like a little classier, right? I did a reverse Jack's dad. I took the S off. My dad calls Brad Pitt Brad Pitts, and you took the S off. Alex dad calls Brad Pitt Brad Pitts and you took the S off. Alex? Alec.

Alec Trebek. He's a smart Alec. He's just like a little bit classier, isn't it? Than Alec's? Alec does feel a little bit. Like a little bit more Jeopardy host-ish. Yeah. I was watching Ken Jennings last night on the tournament of, still called the tournament of masters, which

for me, I was like i was like what's going on but i knew three things um i know on the tournament of masters yeah yeah and i impressed the people i was with they're like oh wow i'm like yeah vilnius is the capital of lithuania damn i would not have known that one uh it was a lucky guess. That was also me saying the worst wrong answers out loud, about 10 of them before I actually hit one. They're almost like, hey, dude, please stop yelling at the TV. I'm like, yeah, alright.

You're shushing everybody else. See? Yeah, when they're like, what is Lithuania? Like, correct. I literally did the fucking Leonardo DiCaprio Once Upon a Time in Hollywood pointing at the TV fucking meme. Get in front of the TV pointing at at it making eye contact with everybody you're watching it with flexing on them like what are you doing i'm like this how we do dance in the west coast i want to just talk about the shohei otani story yeah because the it has a very

like the the details of the story would seem to suggest one thing when you actually like do the reading into the investigation that is happening. And yet everyone I talked to is like, that has the opposite opinion. So basically have we talked about it at all? That like the best major league baseball player we did, I think when it first, when the story first came out.

And we were like, what the fuck is going on? And we're like, is Shohei a gambling addict? And using this dude as cover? Or is this guy doing a thief job on him? Yeah, so basically his interpreter was found to be betting vast Major League Base baseball star sizes of money and you know not interpreter sizes of money and got caught doing so and people were like well this feels like it's

otani and like this dude is just falling on a sword for him because you know that's the cool thing for him to do for otani and also it's the you know that would be what major league baseball would want him to do but when you go into the details of the story which have like subsequently come out and like you have these like quotes from the investigation like the details of how addicted the translator is or the interpreter is is just like mizuhara yeah so wild yeah yeah like there are quotes from him that are just like lost another 400 000 lol need you to extend me another 500 000 this time i'm good for it i swear to god i'm gonna pay you back this time this one's gonna fucking hit keeps fucking god damn um i'm telling you the lakers are gonna beat the nuggets the lakers are gonna beat the fucking nuggets i'm fucking telling you yeah and you can just like see the

process of him going from being like yeah i'll dip into his account a little bit to cover this because i'm good for it and like i'm just gonna win the money back anyways and just now being down like tens of millions of dollars um which uh but the public perception is so like that that seems to be the story as current like based on the information we currently know there could be a cover-up happening but like the actual texture of it, when you read the quotes between the interpreter and the bookie, who is a Real Housewives of Orange County character for some reason, he was the person.

They had this money laundering thing happening where he would pay them money that they would then convert into, I think, chips at a casino and then gamble with those on the tables and then come back and like that was how you kind of cleared it so that it wasn't quite as obviously illegal but um it just seems like somebody getting into more and more like it seems like a gambling addiction uh psa and horrifying like really awful stuff but everybody i've talked to about this is like but come on it was definitely

otani right like it's definitely i don't know why why they need that to be true uh i don't i mean like like i said like there's a there's another anecdote not anecdote this is like part of like the investigation where like he asked otani for like 60 000 for dental work yeah and he just was like wrote him a check but then the guy pocket like just deposited the check and then used otani's account to pay for whatever this was i don't know i don't know what the fuck you get for 60 000. right um i know like what if you get veneers they can be like 1500 a tooth yeah so i don't know if you fucking laced your whole grill with porcelain veneers i don't look again maybe he got a grill who fucking knows but yeah millionaire major league baseball player who's like been one of the great players of his generation since he was probably a teenager

might not be the best person to like gauge what is a real what is like a reasonable request for money you know yeah and also too like i was saying when a lot of these athletes right especially like or at least my experience like knowing you know japanese journalists and like when players have come here like when i like hideo nomo came here like you just have an interpreter and they're sort of like act as a buffer between you and the american world so you can focus on your thing which is throw a ball or hit ball yeah yeah and just do that and he sort of i think you know really use that to his advantage to be like yeah man everything goes through me um and you want to see bank accounts actually what was what was that, Shohei?

Yeah, he actually just said he doesn't want anybody looking at that. So, yeah, sorry. And that was actually Miles is with Shohei right now. Like, I don't know if you guys heard that, but yeah, Miles is now his confidant. He's hungry i told him i was just i was cooking him some chicken i'm not i'm fucking ordering it on uber eats dude with his fucking car with his card that's like that's when you think you're getting away with something to order on uber eats This guy took it for like

80 million. Fucking idiot. And all I can do is like 60 bucks here and there. Yeah. But like I mean first of all this isn't the first time that we've heard of you know celebrity getting stolen from by people close to them that they trust. Like managers etc.

I think it's part of this pattern that we're seeing where we just, like, there's a rumor about someone that like kind of fits into our overall narrative. And so we just like the internet just like kind of goes with it. And I think that's probably what we're seeing here. I think,

I also think this is going to be a very unpopular take. I think a lot of people are going to be like, shut the fuck up. You don't know what you're talking about. It's definitely Otani. But everyone from people I talk to who are Dodgers fans, who is the team Otani just signed with and is playing with, are like, yeah, but Otani's definitely... You're treated kind of like an idiot for thinking that it's not a conspiracy because we have so many yeah we have

so many athletes too that have like pete rose michael jordan like yeah yeah it's not you have enough to be like that's something i've heard of yeah so it's probably that. But either way, it ain't affecting his game. Yeah, he's got 11 home runs. Yeah, I think 27 RDIs. He's hit some dingers. The cover of The New Yorker has Otani with money coming out of his back pocket. The New Yorker's like, yeah, we're wise to you on this one. Is the cover story meant to cast cast dispersions over like him saying he has nothing to do with it or then like yeah this guy fucking likes to gamble or they've been like

this guy's a dope with just money hanging out he's a mark i think i i think it's unclear the illustration is titled showtime just s-h-o-t-i-m-e um but it does seem to suggest that they think he's. What's the opening? What's the opening graph in there? It's not. So the cover is not related to usually on the New Yorkers, like not related to a story. So this is just them editorializing.

Okay, cool. Yeah. It's a meme. I don't know. I'm jealous. Cause the LA baseball team is better than yours we'll still manage

to fuck it up probably sadly the fucking fate of the look of us 2020 was great for LA sports but hey I mean is a fucking absolute madman so we shall

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back and uh the eurovision song contest i don't know what the fuck yeah you're yeah the eurovision song contest holy shit i know it sounds like just by was that a fucking description i'll just come up with that on the fly while half asleep uh the eurovision song contest is a,

uh, mess this year. Like, I guess it's always a mess, but this year it's even worse. Uh, the finals air this weekend and all anyone's talking about is Israel's inclusion in the event.

Um, there's a singer Eden Golan, uh, who's set to perform at the second semifinal. And even the rehearsal of her performance was met with a torrent of booze Eden Golan, who's set to perform at the second semifinal. And even the rehearsal of her performance was met with a torrent of boos and at least one person shouting free Palestine. I like that. That's good journalism because they probably watched that one clip from the audience where people are booing.

And there is that one. A lot of people are shouting, but there is one audible person yelling free Palestine. Yeah yeah like at least one at least one based on this video probably probably more probably that is what we can confirm yeah uh yeah but the controversy uh is even more complicated because i guess eurovision is like we so this is like impossible. They're like, this competition between nations is apolitical. Okay. And then Israel's original entry was a song called October Rain. October Rain. Yeah. No, not a prequel to the Guns N' Roses song, but rather an allegorical song about the october 7th attack

that um had the lyrics i'm still wet from october rain um which is weird a i don't know okay like from the grief or something yeah maybe that didn't translate well to english yeah uh but instead of like so people are like well okay so you say that you're going to keep the competition apolitical but you're letting this song in that is about october 7th uh and so instead of like coming up with any other song they swapped some of the lyrics out and changed october rain to hurricane hurricane massive this is the story of the hurricane not not that one um damn it a different one that is basically october rain but with hurricane swapped in I'm still wet from the hurricane. Okay. Exactly. All right.

Clever. And yeah, so the controversy is just dominating the event. There are more than 1,000 musicians from this year's host country of Sweden who signed an open letter calling for Israel to be barred from competing due to the, quote, brutal warfare in Gaza. due to the uh quote brutal warfare in gaza a swedish pop star was a guest performer for one song and wore a keffiyeh around his wrist which prompted the european broadcasting union to issue their regrets that the non-political event had been compromised wow it was much simpler when that band like lorthy was like the fucking main event i don't know if you remember that like 2000 i think like 2006 like they were all it was like kind of like guar style where they all like monster makeup and i think that was like the first time it hit like

mainstream american consciousness so like this band lorthy is fucking killing it at eurovision i was like what the fuck is that yeah imagine if there was like america the america one or each state submitted like a fucking artist that would be a much better version of american idol right right right truly to be like yeah and then you're like oh man tennessee's got a good one this year not last year they're coming country music from tennessee versus like you know just like grimy wu-tang shit from stat versus yeah yeah i mean it's uh i mean obviously this is this is has the whole the whole world um or it has their eyes upon what israel is doing and there's plenty of protesters like it sounds like in the final for eurovision there'll be 15 000 fans but there will be also be an anti-war protest nearby that is expecting at least 20 000 attendees yeah so um

the eurovision thing it's just already we want it to be apolitical um yeah yeah they're so committed to admitting any references to real world turmoil that in 2015 they introduced anti-booing technology that filtered out the sounds of booing during the russian entry for the tv broadcast uh which one expert is expecting them to use again this year for israel wow anti-booing technology it's so fucking weird you boo and there's just like a sound laser that's like yeah it's actually ai yeah we're using ai to create anti-bullying technology great great great yeah um all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this thursday may 9 2024. we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show until

then be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk

Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark vs. Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.

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