The Daily Zeitgeist - The Trendhearsal 7/20: Secret Service, 'Nope', OANN, DoJ, 'The Rehearsal'

Episode Date: July 20, 2022

In this edition of The Trendhearsal, Jack and Miles discuss the Secret (Text) Service, the reviews for 'Nope', DirecTV dropping OANN, the DoJ probe into Trump, and the new Nathan Fielder show 'The Reh...earsal'!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
Starting point is 00:00:52 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.
Starting point is 00:01:10 That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the
Starting point is 00:01:36 making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of The Trend-Hersel. Yay.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Yay. Another Nathan Fielder joint. He's fucking back. I'm Jack, that is Miles. Yep. We're going to talk about the first episode of the rehearsal. We'll save it for last so that anybody who doesn't want it spoiled can jump off. But it's definitely worth watching.
Starting point is 00:02:27 All right. Let's get into what's trending, shall we? Secret Service is trending because they are like, yeah, we deleted all that shit. I'm sorry. All everything? Yeah. Everything from January 5th to January 6th. So. Oh. Sorry. Sorry, everything? Yeah, everything from January 5th to January 6th. So, is it weird that I pronounced that date as January 6th?
Starting point is 00:02:53 Yeah, I mean. There's not like anything I have to hide. It's just like January 6th, you know. Yeah, but your mouth is even doing a completely different shape to say that. Like, it feels very intentional. It doesn't seem like even subconscious. But, oh, so those texts are gone. The ones we we asked the ones that we were like y'all know everything so here's what's interesting um a couple things first of all like the mainstream news story that's
Starting point is 00:03:15 hitting today is that they're very well aware like this is not tom br Brady destroying an iPhone. They are very trained in... What's the word I'm looking for? Data forensics? Forensics. They know that you can't delete shit and that you would have to go to great lengths to delete shit. And they also know they were not supposed to. So the mainstream media news story that's hitting is
Starting point is 00:03:44 there were multiple emails, at least one prior to January 6th, 2021, reminding them to preserve records on their cell phones, including text messages before their devices were essentially restored to factory settings and texts were lost as part of a planned reset and replacement program across agency. That is,
Starting point is 00:04:01 and replacement program across agency. That doesn't quite put my alarm bells on because it's like, yeah, I ignore the shit out of company-wide emails. You're like, someone has to physically knock on my door to be like, did you do that thing? Yeah, I fuck stuff like that up constantly. But the Secret Service is, they do not tolerate that sort
Starting point is 00:04:26 of stuff like they're they're kind of uh high stakes operation and also like the secret service is very good at data forensics so it like super producer brian who is more knowledgeable in this stuff than i am was like you that doesn't that's not possible you can't just say that uh those texts are gone and there's no way to recover them they might have thrown all them fucking phones into the fucking lava and shit they were like yeah to the terminator 2 lava um yeah yeah the but even then like there should be a record of them with the carrier the first conclusion everyone needs to come to is like they're fucking hiding something and that is so fucked up and if you want to play it by the letter of the law round up all the people who deleted their text messages
Starting point is 00:05:18 or whatever didn't save them for posterity fucking sit them down or fire them they have no place being anywhere near any fucking anything at that point because i mean if they are actually a party to all of it that makes it even more scary despicable like what the fuck i know there's already a lot of people asking about like if they were providing golf carts to people who are like going around to like trying to get to the capitol and shit like that so i like people who stormed the capital they were getting the vip at coachella well they're like well where'd they get the golf carts and they're like they know like the secret service was using golf carts for like other shit what i don't this is this again this is there's like there's a lot of like i don't know adjacent reporting where like there's a mention of oath keepers in golf carts there's mention of the
Starting point is 00:06:03 secret service people in golf carts and then i think some people are saying are trying to connect the dots i don't know what's actually been reported fully but yeah it's there's a lot of there's a lot of stinky shit there especially when you know the fact that like it seems like the secret service even got cold feet when they're like man we can't we can't take you to the fucking capital i'm sorry like i know we were like with you up until that point but it's like a bridge too far yeah then what's that conversation like what's the insistence on getting pence in a thing whatever yeah that is the official new york times headline a lot of stinky shit there yeah so a lot of stinky shit and it shouldn't be like yeah how could that be possible it should the first thing be like yo that is the worst look ever and you, for anybody who's having trouble imagining why the Secret Service would want to be helping Trump and like who had it in their mind that like the Secret Service was part of this deep state that was going to just like let Trump, you know, just have his temper tantrum.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And, you know, they kept him away from the Capitol. kept him away from the the capital there is at least a number of plausible theories where they're like trying to get mike pence out of there so they can like extend it for a larger like coup that makes it more serious than a bunch of um you know weekend warriors storming the capital and not actually threatening to overthrow the government also the, the Secret Service, there might be a Secret Service cover-up at the heart of the JFK assassination. There it is. That is my theory, at least on what happened. You've never taken your eye off them. Never taken the eye off the Secret Service.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So, I don't know. They have the coolest name of any agency, any official agency, and they probably don't deserve it. All the best agencies from governments were called the SS. That's what I know. That is, yeah. Classic. Alright, let's pivot
Starting point is 00:07:57 to pop culture. Nope is out. Is it out or it's coming out on Friday? Yeah, people the exalted few who get to Nope is out. Is it out or it's coming out on Friday? Yeah, yeah, yeah. People, the exalted few who get to go to the screenings have seen it. And everyone, it sounds like they're just picking their jaw up off the floor.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah, everybody sees it. The reviews are good to very good, which is very exciting. In AV Club, in Nope, the sky is the limit for Jordan Peele's ambition. I'll take that. The AV Club's review was actually one of a handful that weren't that good. But even those are like, it's not for a lack of ambition or lots of cool ideas. It just doesn't quite cohere. But a lot of people are like, it's a masterpiece. So even the bad reviews are the type of bad reviews that get me excited about
Starting point is 00:08:45 oh there's some there's some tough guy reviews though too as i would say oh real tough guy oh real tough guy what was the thing you got mad at the person because they walked out of anger management and they acted like they were they were on like on some boss shit for doing that i was like oh you're a real tough guy you're a real tough guy huh rear naked choking him out rear naked choke rear naked cringe that biggest mistake of my life i'm like oh there's some real tough guy reviews here there's some real tough guy reviews uh bbc nope film review a limping would be romp oh okay tough guy okay let's see okay bbc okay okay. Let's see. Another one from Polygon. It said Nope Review.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Jordan Peele's Alien Invasion thriller is mostly hot air. Okay. A white dude wrote that for sure. Fucking hot air. I'm excited that I'm trying not to like read too many of the reviews because
Starting point is 00:09:43 or any of the reviews other than just the overall headlines because I just want to go in surprised. I think, yeah. Even off the strength of the trailers. Yeah, the trailers are so dope. Alright, OAN might be gone. One America News.
Starting point is 00:09:59 The best. The name that promised to unite us all. I was pulling for them but they're the worst always want to bring democracy down um yeah one american news by far the most outlandish foolish shit conspiracy laden nonsense using the word news uh in their like working title and that is a highly competitive field in the united oh yeah i mean because they were on like they made like even news max like
Starting point is 00:10:31 you know like the spectrum was like fox news then you want to turn up a little more got news max then you got oh a.m oh no um huge push to the big lie i mean obviously they're getting sued by dominion the voting machines people because they were incessantly just being like, yeah, it's all bad. And they did it. So Trump won. I don't know. Check out Dominion. And then that pissed a ton of people off.
Starting point is 00:10:52 And they've had this whole saga where like DirecTV, like AT&T, DirecTV, they were the biggest cable provider carrying the channel and were providing most of the revenue that kept the network afloat because DirecTV is so big. DirecTV dropped them. So they're like, oh. More like ONO. providing most of the revenue that kept the network afloat because directv is so big directv dropped them so they're like oh more like ono as in i9 i'm taking headed down i9 later um but this when that happened it seemed like the writing was on the wall because the owner of like oan he also owns like the awe channel he like went on OAN and was telling the viewers, Hey man, can you beg your local cable provider to keep One America News?
Starting point is 00:11:33 It was like that I think you should leave sketch. The bodies falling out of the coffin's guy? He was basically like, tell them that you want Kornkov TV! And now the death blow may be coming because Verizon, like Fios, was like the only other like relevant cable provider that was carrying the network. And they're like, yeah, I think they're like, they may be gone by the end of July. I mean, Fios. So these fascists die hard, though. We need to I want to see them gone want i want to see them gone i want
Starting point is 00:12:07 oh yeah see them in the ground well here's the thing celebrating those little fascist seeds they may blow up north because there is a company in alaska that is still carrying it to about like maybe a hundred thousand people so they'll just become literally it's like the scene after someone gets in trouble in a 80s movie and then you see them like up in the like siberian wilderness right exactly like at the outpost in the siberian wilderness 100 i think if you showed me both oan and awe five years ago i would have assumed may it probably would have had to be like 10 years ago i would have assumed that it was bad satire poorly executed satire but it's like because it's what they do is like it's a lot of while oan is like selling you like the myth that like you know you're not a fascist awe is sort of
Starting point is 00:12:57 doing the thing of like dude money's so chill too because they have a lot of like stuff that's like selling mansions or like private islands so it's a lot of you know wish fulfillment type shit right right yeah yeah so they're yeah they know they know they're dealing with the people who are looking for answers to something all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members
Starting point is 00:13:45 for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts
Starting point is 00:14:26 of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take. Yeah, rejection is scary,
Starting point is 00:15:07 but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel
Starting point is 00:15:37 Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
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Starting point is 00:17:35 Because I think people are just like, so... What y'all doing? What's going on? What are you doing? Where are we at here? What's happening? We just saw the thing that they said out loud on TV. I'm assuming you know that. And if that's case can you just do can you just do something okay maybe
Starting point is 00:17:49 well so we talked about uh on the episode i think that came out this morning about how donald trump is you know obviously he's now openly being like i want to run for president because then all my legal problems go away i'm not really into being president i just need the protection of the office many people were like yeah i mean that seems clear like why he would want to retreat to the white All my legal problems go away. I'm not really into being president. I just need the protection of the office. Many people were like, yeah, I mean, that seems clear, like why he would want to retreat to the White House because he he feels like that is the one place he can't get got. So then many people were curious, you know, for a comment from the Department of Justice in terms of like how they saw those comments, because he seemed pretty like, you know, clear that he's like, yeah, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like if I become president and also like I'm not going to be fall victim to a witch hunt a spokesperson the doj said quote we're going to continue to do our job to follow the facts wherever they go no matter where they lead no matter to what level we're going to continue to investigate what was fundamentally an attack on our democracy pretty much the same sort of line we've heard over and over but i don't know that's again i'll believe it when i see it but the one thing that is happening is like in georgia the da there fanny willis has like i think said that all of the electors like in that like sham elector scheme that they were trying to pull in georgia all of those people are now basically targets of the
Starting point is 00:19:05 investigation and you know now we also have like lindsey graham who's been called to be like hey you need you need to also come up here to uh talk to this grand jury and so is jody heiss but isn't he like saying that he'll send it to the supreme court before he actually does it he said no i think he just said he's kind of not fully. I think he wants to fight it, but he has agreed to accept the subpoena. Okay. I mean, in the sense that he's like, I know that it's legal, but to your point, like all of them, they will probably try to sue their way out of it. Yeah. Again, I'll believe it when I see it.
Starting point is 00:19:39 When I see somebody get held accountable for being openly fascist in America. Yeah. It seems like, it seems like that's less of a, uh, HR issue more and more and, uh, more and more the brand.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. The brand is strong and it is fascism, unfortunately. Um, all right. Nathan Fielder, creator of Nathan for you. True genius.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I think is generally the consensus on our show. Did I ever tell you about the time I saw him live? No. It was like Nathan For You had just come out. I went up to Just For Laughs with Michael Swaim and Daniel O'Brien. And we went to this live thing, Nathan Fielder. And first he went up on stage and just like deadpan performed a Lana Del Rey song in a way that I think made a lot of people feel uncomfortable. But he was really into it. But then he just pulled people out of the audience and interviewed them just based on his ability to find interesting people.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And it was like crazy. It was like a magic trick. He wasn't like 100%. Some of the people were just drunk. He's like, sometimes I have a hard time telling if someone is like weird and interesting or just really drunk. So I'll figure it out within a minute. But he truly has a genius for finding compelling people and putting them in wild
Starting point is 00:21:08 situations and the rehearsal is like they gave him the budget yeah it's i mean he's basically i mean a lot of people have had some take on twitter just in general about him of like sort of like this with the way how deeply he thinks about stuff if he were evil he'd be a fucking nightmare person doing like harm to everyone like around the world but instead he's like invested in making like just interesting tv part of the question of the show is is he evil though is he maybe evil that's what's beautiful about this show i don't it's so for people who don't know the rehearsal is basically the the broad premise is that he's offering people the opportunity to rehearse an interaction that might make them uncomfortable by doing everything he can to make
Starting point is 00:21:58 them prepared for it by like doing every permutation of the conversation as they reveal something or are afraid to hear something but doing like how they deal with it yeah doing like deep intelligence work on the on the people who like they're having the conversation with i like so this just i mean fuck it if you haven't seen it like you go watch yeah okay so this is your chance to bounce uh because we're going to talk about the first episode which is called called Orange Juice, No Pulp. This is amazing. It's a reference. So this one is about a guy who wants to admit to one of his quiz.
Starting point is 00:22:31 He does quizzes like bar quizzes, trivia night with a group of friends. He unfortunately has a secret that he's been hiding, which is that he doesn't have a master's degree. And when he brought up that he was like going to graduate and things like that, one of the people on the team assumed he meant a master's degree and when he brought up that he was like going to graduate and things like that one of the people on the team assumed he meant a master's degree and he never corrected them and he's been carrying this with him for years now and because he's so concerned like this the lengths that nathan goes to do it he says okay where do you want to do it he's like i'll probably do it at a trivia night okay right and who are you gonna who you usually do yeah yeah this woman that's on my team he builds a to scale version of the bar like down to the fucking seats yeah
Starting point is 00:23:12 to first give this guy the environment to to play act with a with an actor they've sent to do like deep research on this woman in the most surreptitious ways yeah like interview her for a job or for like a profile piece and um it's it's so wild it and again he is undefeated when it comes to like finding the subjects of these things because character is so interesting any other person would be a cult leader you know like you find malleable people who are agreeable to say yes to the most preposterous shit like what nathan is saying like okay yeah like we've i've been you know i've been rehearsing this whole conversation with you would you like the same opportunity and like they're the kind of people like oh okay so i think one of the big differences between this and nathan for you
Starting point is 00:24:07 is with nathan for you you always had the question in the back of your mind why would these people like go along with this why are you know and with this there's part of you that's like yeah but like that would be dope to be able to like rehearse something and like have them create basically a truman show version of the interaction that you're about to have and get to like run through all the different permutations it's it's like very impressive the level of detail and dedication uh to creating these false realities it's just like it really like sticks in your brain as like something like just this idea of being able to pre-re-pre-rehearse and like an interaction yeah i don't know it's it's fucking brilliant it really is really cool yeah it is like i all i can say is encourage you to watch it because it's not just like being like, well, what if we did this?
Starting point is 00:25:07 It's the amount of thought going into doing something like this. Like, there's even, just to fuck it, just to spoil it, right? They're doing a quiz night. And as they're doing this rehearsal of this guy admitting to this woman, he's not like the, you know, doesn't have this master's degree. Nathan realizes that like, because it would be on a quiz night night he sees that this guy is so distracted by the quiz night he's unable to like work through like the script that they've been like trying to put together the funniest moment and he fucking so to to figure out he's like the only way i can do it is to make sure he's killing it at the trivia and he's like and nathan finds a way to get all the answers of the trivia night
Starting point is 00:25:45 that he's going to admit like make his admission and because the guy who is making the admission doesn't want to cheat nathan like incepts him over a series of days to put these trivia questions in his mind like using actors and shit we're like playing like delivery people or bystanders setting up a fake like murder suicide yeah oh yeah the cop was there a cop can't go here terrible murder suicide oh okay yeah days like these make me curse that the chinese ever invented gunpowder and like both nathan the guy like okay cool all right man then cut to like the trivia night. It's like this nation is credited with creating gunpowder and you're seeing him like beautiful minded and shit.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Oh, gotta watch. You gotta watch the show. You just have to watch the show. You never, you'll never believe it. Even that doesn't even do it a service. Yeah, it's, but it is going to be a thing for sure. Like everybody should get on it early because it's going to be a thing for sure. Like everybody should get on it early because it's going to be a thing. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Get the booster if you can. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Starting point is 00:27:23 Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gervais. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:28:08 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do,
Starting point is 00:28:35 like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:28:58 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:29:13 iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

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