The Daily Zeitgeist - The Trending Sixth Day of SepTrender 9/26: Mark Milley, EU, Y3000, American Airlines, SAG/AFTRA, Gen-Z

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

In this edition of The Trending Sixth Day of SepTrender, Jack and Miles discuss Trump suggesting Gen Mark Milley should be executed, the new EU disinformation laws, Coke's new AI-made "y3000" flavor, yet another flight attendant who has seen "The Sound Of Freedom" one too many times,  an update on the SAG strike, and Gen-Z's epidemic of loneliness!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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That is courtesy of Nicole Adrian. Remember, remember, The Trending Sixth Day of Sceptrender. As the saying doesn't go. What is the day? Remember, remember the November. November.

Yeah. All right. Remember, remember the Titans. I think that's how it goes. Remember, remember the Titans. It's the 5th of November. Yeah, it's the 5th. My name is Jack.

That is Miles. And this is a podcast where we remember the Titans. Yes, always. Alright, these are some things that are trending. Donald Trump appears to have called for the assassination of General Mark Milley.

Yeah. Mark Milley, Mark Milley, Mark Milley, Milley. In New York, I'm Mark Milley Rock. of general mark millie yeah mark millie mark millie mark millie millie um in new york i mark millie rock yes hello that's all all based on him on mark millie the huge a lot of fans out here in the millie rock is based on a dance move you would do on bases um yeah i mean he was like you know that he should be charged with whatever and treason i think is this whole thing yeah reason executed so i mean we've called him a fascist because he had fascist leanings and tendencies instead stuff like i could shoot someone in the middle of the street you know he would do anything um but he's all about this shit now he's oh yeah yeah like assassinating military leaders uh which you know as we've said before i feel like we should

believe people when they tell us who they are we should you know listen to them and uh yeah not be like well he doesn't does he really mean that though i mean he just he recently just at this point he's in that phase of his shit where anyone who disagrees with him now has to die yeah you know i mean like he's like the last dawn or some shit it's like they fucking christ done yeah you're dead you have a who said mitch mcconnell had a fucking death wish? Yeah, Mitch McConnell, like last year, he supported some bipartisan legislation that went against his wishes, and

he tweeted, or Truth Social, that McConnell has a death wish. Which, you know, and then he's of course been tweeting videos in which he beats the shit out of political opponents via the magic of jib jab. Yes, yes, that's his favorite.

Yeah, but he's been doing that for years. So it just it doesn't feel like he's getting less violent, less likely to start killing people. Did you see the shit, too, where he said he bought a Glock? No. Yeah. So what was that i i've been seeing headlines but i haven't like dove in yeah he'd like he's saying he's like oh yeah i think he's at a gun store and he's like he's like yeah i'd like to buy that but then like they're

like no no he didn't he didn't do that because that might be legally sticky uh for him he's like i want to buy one isn't a glock a great gun and again it would have been illegal because our man is under indictment in four criminal cases so they're like oh you're gonna get him on some hunter biden shit yeah yeah no could you imagine they're like okay well this dude literally just bought a glock for fucking clout and now okay yeah they're doing the same thing. Yeah. So, there's also this opinion piece in, I think it's the Atlantic, where they're like,

what if the Supreme Court went and did something to totally redeem themselves? Oh, hell yeah. Which would be what? So, basically say, alright, he can't be, he can't run

for president again, right? Like, on the one hand, there does seem to be some differences of opinion in the legal community about whether there's legal standing for

preventing him from doing that shit. On the other whether there's like legal standing for preventing him from doing that shit on the other there's disagreement about all the shit there's disagreement about citizens united uh that that didn't seem like it should have been legally possible before they decided to do that so it's all just ideology filtered through a bunch of high-minded rhetoric and they do so the thing that like got my mind like focused on this and uh you know probably hoping uselessly around this is just they do seem to have a pattern for uh doing the one for us one for them type thing they did seem to be not on board with trump overthrowing the 2020 election um and so it i don't know it's hard to argue that he's not going to do that exact same shit again this time and in which case like it's going to subvert democracy, which seems to be something that they claim to care about.

Like it, it does almost feel like when you think about the fact that they have the power to do this, it's almost like wild that they wouldn't do it. It's almost like they're doing it in exchange for him having put them on the supreme court because it doesn't doesn't really make sense to just be like you know they they agree that what he did was just try and seed some lies and overthrow the 2020 election so you know best case scenario he's going to do that shit again why would we let him and like i guess the idea is well it's a slippery slope the supreme court intervening in a election uh you know you let the voters decide but it like that this is a question of like any anybody who is viewing this rationally sees that this is somebody who is incapable of letting the voters decide. So why not step in and just do,

do the thing that everybody agrees would be the best thing for the longterm health of, I don't know if everybody agrees it's the best thing for the longterm health of democracy, but it does feel like it would be, would be in their best interest would be in the best interest of the of the country i don't know i think a lot of people would be like but what about you know the then next time it'll be like bernie sander beating hillary and they come in and

intervene on behalf of the corporations and hillary bernie sander bernie sander yeah you remember that guy yeah but i i like that the case is so that ignores how strong the case is that like he already did try to subvert an election and he's going to do it again i mean this is the thing like you you'd hope that the capitalists out there are like man this could fuck my money up you know i mean like if this if the country's in total disarray and i and you kind of see that because there are some donors who are like just a little bit like i don't fucking know man like there there was that push like can we get somebody else and now they're like fuck it i guess maybe i'll just build three more bunkers to protect myself when shit really starts to fall apart but

yeah i mean maybe they will do the right thing spike lee but i don't quite know i mean right now everyone's like fucking clarence thomas needs to fucking recuse himself from like the consumer protection like the cpfb cases and stuff but who fucking knows you know who fucking knows with these people but like that yeah i mean people would be up in arms of course but like this is an avowedly right-wing institution right now the supreme court so it's not like you know the uh a liberal court is coming in and we'll be making this decision yeah and i i mean i'm sure like maybe alito is like damn maybe it'll take some fucking heat off like right they won't they won't start asking where like what kind of stuff i've been doing with the coke brothers maybe if we just give them this pictures are gnarly yeah um i'm wearing ken burns wig i took it off him while he was sleeping

uh the eu has some new laws around disinformation that could mean a potential ban for twitter uh formerly x thank you uh that's what we're going with uh facebook google tiktok microsoft all uh were analyzed and have all signed on to the EU's code of practice. But Twitter was analyzed and refused to participate and therefore didn't submit information on areas such as fact checking. So it's. Yeah. I mean, for good reason, because even without their help or their data, they're like, OK, uh twitter has the they are the worst worst offender in terms of the ratio of disinformation posts uh followed by facebook so yeah and i think and a lot

of that is them looking at you know these you know upcoming elections that are happening around europe and the proliferation of disinformation bots and shit like that and yeah they're like no we will ban you as they said they're like we will be watching you so we'll see we'll see what happens there i don't know if that will matter to elon musk because i feel like by the time he starts charging people to use that shit it'll probably turn into a fucking ghost town yeah one weird like just kind of thing that never got brought up in our AI episodes, but is interesting is like that. So the head of AI stuff for meta is kind of the person who's like a main voice in the conversation who seems the most kind of rational and the least like what we're all fucked,

like using the doomerism to hype up the stock stuff. And one of the things he said is that they've been using AI to help fight disinformation in the past years. I don't know how true that is, but it's...

Elon Musk seems like he's using for the direct opposite, right? Where he's just for the direct opposite, right? Of just where he's just letting the AI bots run free. I mean, considering like how we're always like, wait, why is he like always using like Putin talking points in terms of like the Ukrainian invasion? I'm sure he's like, yeah, man, I'll let y'all have that pig pen if you want. Do whatever the fuck y'all want in there. You know, get dirty.

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listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back we are and coke y3000 this is this feels like some pepsi shit i gotta say coke yeah you know you remember that remember that logo redesign of pepsi where they were like future millennium moving orbiting around one another and it aligned less quickly them just like fucking up the pepsi logo a little bit um so coke had an ai design this is what everyone's response should be when we're being like here's an ai generated fucking consumer flavor no fuck out of here really Really? Yeah. The tagline is futuristic flavored. And so people, anyone expecting a bold flavors of a prosperous tomorrow,

according to this review, they, they just went in and for on Gizmodo, they were unkind to Coke. Why 3000? They said the first time the bubbling liquid hits your tongue, you expect the same acidic, carbonated sensation as a regular Coke, but the drink slithers

to the back of the mouth and sits there, broiling with a numb triviality across your taste buds, and then the flavor is gone, leaving you with a vague aftertaste of berries and sugar. Oh, Jesus what i love a alien symbiote yeah right slithers to the back of my mouth is this that scene in the matrix where

he puts that thing in his navel and shit yeah and he's like oh no no it's like it's gonna sit back there with broiling with a numbed dude broiling with a numb triviality across your taste buds. Oh, that's fucking poetry right there. Just burns your fucking taste buds. Also, what the fuck is this? Why Coke 3000? Andre 3000 should sue. He is the only Atlanta-based 3000 entity.

Coke Y3 stacks. Could you imagine? coke dre benjamin they're like wait what all right we have a new flavor you guys weren't fucking with that one this one is coke dre benjamin dungeon family yeah um all right uh there is another case of a flight attendant who watched sound of freedom one too many times, an American Airlines flight attendant reported a black father to the police because his seven-year-old, who is pretty shy, as seven-year-olds often are, didn't respond when a flight attendant tried to engage him in conversation and ask him his name. Yeah.

And by the way, these are multiracial kids. That's why I think the person was like, this child is not a full black person. Therefore, they may be a trafficking victim. And then so they got to they were flying from Atlanta to L.A. X. They get to L.A. X. And met by the jetway with

an american airlines employee and the police and shout out to all uh marginalized people who are having to be confronted with the ugliness of our society and they still have to be like i'm not about to fucking wild out this is such bullshit but again he's like i played it very calm because i didn't want to do that kind of shit in front of my kids. They said the flight attendant called ahead with some sort of concern. He said that perhaps my mixed children weren't my children because they were unresponsive. And they said that interaction was like 30 seconds. And apparently airlines do train their front line staff, like the staff that interacts with passengers, to be able to know about kind of shit like this but i feel like we're seeing this a lot now it's like it's like

these are mixed race kids and that kid's shy therefore which i don't know like that as i travel i'm i'm i'm lucky like recently i was traveling with her majesty so it's like me plus her equals this child right and people like right right right but again i who knows what will happen uh when i travel solo because shit that was my experience growing up too except there wasn't the sound of freedom going around it was just sort of stuff like being like is this your boyfriend yes right they're getting bad information on what human trafficking looks like and just like if this was from a like american airlines you know policy of training policy it'll be interesting to see where this came from because i would be surprised if this person wasn't on some like facebook groups that are you know you gotta you gotta

do your part when you see something say something you know and i think the other thing people were like couldn't you look at the flight manifest yeah like they all got the same fucking name yeah but again uh who knows but i'm sure for someone who is like looking for to be like the hero they're like of course they would do that to not raise suspicion he kidnapped this little boy exactly what they would want us to think yeah to the point that people of color can't win because you've got yeah and american airlines they haven't they've done fuck all to like try and rectify this like with the passengers so you know on it goes on it goes uh sag after the latest news that the amptp and sag could meet as early as next week to hash out their deal,

which I think helps the fact that the WGA is not going back to work until SAG AFRA works out their deal probably is helping their position. So once again, shout out to the solidarity and Gen Z loneliness is so bad that young adults, some young adults not all of them are spending thousands trying to make friends through gym memberships and social clubs um i can't tell if this is you know the guy who thinks millennials are spending too much on avocado toasts like going back for a second bite at the apple or not because like the main reason this interests me is like what is a social club is that a thing that we're seeing like the one that

they describe in the article is the soho house which is that's just like a you're not finding a fucking friendship at soho house yeah that's just gonna find people doing cocaine in the bathroom making you outlet making outlandish claims that they can't back up that's about what you get there yeah but they're like there there are those things like the multi-level marketing schemes and like i feel like you know there there's that sketch in season three of i think you should leave where um Bennett is part of a friends club where he gets to hang out with a certain number of friends as long as he

acts right. I am interested in all the ways that loneliness is being artificially addressed by our current culture. The way that this article is about like how much money they're spending and that it lists the soho house as like one of the it's that

or orange theory yeah it's like not everybody can have what who the fuck is that yeah who has fucking like 2500 to just blow on a soho right. You might be lonelier for other reasons, but I do. I mean, obviously I don't underrate the idea that like we are getting more disconnected from each other. So that part definitely tracks like the loneliness of Americans for sure, because it's wild.

You know, I mean, I'd hate to bring it up, but when I was in Italy, you know, the way you see people out there just enjoying each other, it does. The sense of community is much different than we, that we have in the United States. But again, you know the way you see people out there just enjoying each other it does the sense of community

is much different than we that we have in the united states but again you know it does feel like when you're attaching dollar amounts it almost it's meant to feel like the amounts of money are the thing they want you to focus on rather than like yeah there's we got i mean it's loneliness across the board uh sure yeah and in our version of a country like the capitalists rush in like this article is in business insider so it's like this defect of like how we're living is actually a business opportunity right and so yeah we're yeah right yeah oh my god orange theory which is just like a workout class like suddenly they want to be like a lifestyle i remember we work we like our first episodes were recorded out of a we work yeah and like the we work policies and like all the all the communications that you get from them

were like about how this is like a lifestyle and do you want to come to drinks and a party afterwards? No. At WeWork? And it's WeWork branded happy hours and shit. There are corporations who recognize their other products have made us very lonely. And they want to create the products that are going to address that loneliness that people used to treat by hanging out with their neighbors or being part of a bowling team or being part of a church or community center or unions. And now a lot of that shit has gone away.

And so there's opportunity opportunity there's money to be made here but don't ask about creating more third places for people to go that's you know what i mean because like that's the complete you know that it's vanishing because everything has to be a product you can sell so if i just like spot to be able to like you know come together because a lot of the stuff they point is like people pay for they want to be do go to the jujitsu gym and they meet people there and i totally get that but i think we're also seeing again along with like social media and things like that making us feel a little bit more separated from things we also just don't have like physical spaces that don't require money to just sort of exist in and be able to socialize. I think that's a huge fucking part of it.

Yeah. And I think it's totally by design that there aren't these places to, you know, that we have a really expensive to join golf courses instead of public parks. You know, right. Exactly. I've heard,

I've heard people be like, Erewhon is the new cool place to hang out and meet people and buy $45 basket of strawberries. Anyways, those are some of the things that are trending on this Tuesday afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to

each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion,

and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pardenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.