The Daily Zeitgeist - The UnforgiveTrend Pt. 3 10/18: Halloween, Trumpdictment, Joe Biden, Israel, Gaza, Jim Jordan

Episode Date: October 18, 2023

In this edition of UnforgiveTrend Pt. 3, Jack and Miles discuss the most popular Halloween costumes, a Trumpdictement update, Biden's visit to Israel and an update on the ethnic cleansing of Gaza by t...he Israeli government, and Jim Jordan failing… at life!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:31 Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of The Unforgived Trend, part three. Ah. Ah, the song that we all knew existed when today's guest, Joey Clift, brought it up. Unforgived Trend Part 3 is what I thought would be a good movie. You know, the Clint Eastwood. I thought he was just going to keep, you know, expanding the unforgiven cinematic universe.
Starting point is 00:02:00 But unfortunately, no. I'm Jack. That predates the song or no it was like right at the same time I think it was 92 and like wouldn't that have been right around the same time never cared for what they do
Starting point is 00:02:15 um it was actually commissioned Unforgiven Part 2 was commissioned for the movie like Adam's Family Wolf. Yeah. Anyways. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It came out 91, whatever. We're not here to do a forensic analysis of it. That word was in the zeitgeist. I'm Jack your Miles. And something else in the zeitgeist. So we like to look at Halloween costumes and see what's trending. And we got a little duped this year by some bad journalism happening out there. Yeah, totally shit.
Starting point is 00:02:55 From bad journalists who thought that Google had updated their Freitgeist list of costumes earlier than they actually had. Frightgeist's list of costumes earlier than they actually had. So they were looking at last year's results, saying they were this year's results. Barbie was nowhere near it. Yeah, Barbie was not in the top 10. They have refreshed.
Starting point is 00:03:16 The Frightgeist is updated. It is both there's some interesting stuff in there, and also it is a complete mess of like they've fucked up the data in a lot of places in like weird ways yeah um there are multiple places on the list where like consecutive numbers are the same costume just with their under different names so number 10 is bunny number 11 is rabbit um later on it's like number 31 is darth vader number 32 is anis anakin skywalker
Starting point is 00:03:49 aniskin so i think like what they they had like a bunny slash rabbit and then like fucked up how the data populated so oh yeah like yeah it'll be like uh where is the other one? Because I want to get the rankings right. Yeah. It's number 97, Care Bear. Number 98, Care Bears. Really? You guys. Guys.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I think it condensed that shit. I think you fucked up big time and ought to be ashamed of yourself. Thank you. You are hurting the zeitgeist name by populating with this shit yeah and you're gonna fucking hear from our lawyers yes and i feel like we have a good chance in court against google um because they say don't be evil so i bet they're really nice and reasonable um but yeah so barbie predictably number one that coincides with what we're hearing what we're seeing
Starting point is 00:04:45 as we just walk around our neighborhoods saying what do you think is gonna be number one costume what you can be for halloween but there's also an npr story that just came out about like what the asking like one of one of the heads of spirit halloween um the the largest owners of dead banks yes exactly um but uh one quote from marissa usolino manager of pr for spirit halloween told npr's morning edition when the parties start happening we're gonna see a lot of barbie oh western barbie skating barbie skating ken um the skating barbie and ken is a good costume that's that'll be a lot of fun oh that's the very like loud neon pink color yes patterned out yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah by the way google took the don't be evil out of their last mission statement uh so we won't be taking them to court yeah because they are i guess so go off
Starting point is 00:05:45 go be that is foreboding yeah to be like yeah no more mr nice guy people can't sue us for not following our own charter as a company yeah most of the npr article is like people are spending baby it's like a local uh it's like a chamber of commerce propaganda where it's like right right right adults child and pet costumes will reach 4.1 billion dollars this year a billion dollars more than pre-pandemic spending yeah hey and also look on the fight fucking fright guys thing there's a thing called a costume wizard where you can have it tell you how you should embarrass yourself in public with a costume and you can tell you what you can choose based on spookiness level uniqueness uniqueness level let's say you just and modern or classic so let's say i want to do a very spooky and and you know
Starting point is 00:06:38 middle of the road unique modern costume that would leave me with zombie cheerleader okay i did 100 i took it 100 on all the levels i took it 100 unique 100 unique 100 percent local wow let them see where i am 20 come get me google power of will uh-huh yeah 100 exactly and it came up with and get get ready for the most unique costume you've ever heard it came up with zombie yeah uh google you stink i'm sorry you're bad you're bad at your job google you fucking suck sorry sorry i'm gonna go as victor wimbenyama this year i'm gonna wear i'm gonna walk on stilts and probably hurt myself this is probably something that we're just gonna be referencing so we might as well explain it here if you don't listen to our other nba show uh just the stuff we say doesn't make sense to most people i'd i'd wager but you guys
Starting point is 00:07:34 still follow along so we appreciate that just i and it it actually doesn't make sense there's no explanation because the whole point is just the fact that i feel like wembing yama is a word that will be fun for trump to say yeah that's all and we agree you guys seen this for this folks uh this guy was victor wembing yama jack you should be trump saying wembing yama as your halloween that's it 100 unique 100 spooky anything jump out to you? The NPR article said Bluey is climbing the charts. Do kids want to be? I feel like... It's kind of a shitty costume.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Anytime it's just a cartoon animal, it's kind of hard to pull off. I always wanted to be an occupation. I wanted to be a scientist. I wanted to be a fucking... Speed came out and I was like, I want to be like a scientist um i wanted to be a fucking you know speed came out and i was like i want to be a swat cop and my mom was like yeah where it is black dress shirt
Starting point is 00:08:30 and here's a hat and there you go but i was so bummed out i was like expecting her to buy me like military equipment or some shit for the cause i'm like this shit works and she's like just wear this damn black shirt and these jeans and these boots and you're in swat okay uh number 46 the number the 46th most popular costume is renaissance i'm assuming that's beyonce and not just like a painter with a soft flappy hat you never know you never know i mean number 50 is ghost face uh wallaby Lobster Kicks, I'm assuming. Not... Are we talking about Tony? Yeah, it's gotta be.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Tony Stark himself? It's the only Ghostface that I'm familiar with, Miles. Yeah. Number 50 is just Monster? Yeah. What? And what are you, young man? Monster.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I'm Mascot. Oh, okay. Cool. I wonder how far, I would be interested to see how far Cop has fallen. Oh, I like how they show you if it's trending up or down.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Cop is falling. Oh, no. Damn. Yeah. Poor guys. They're having a tough run. They're having a tough run, you know,
Starting point is 00:09:41 being maybe not as necessary as we thought. But anyway, that's a whole other thing uh 1970s uh according to spirit halloween is having the best year in terms of the decades um not according to google no which is a fucking disaster 1990s is on the come up 90s on the come up i'm so like are you excited do you oh you're not really like you don't have one of them hoarder families do you like where you're gonna have a bunch of weird
Starting point is 00:10:08 90s shit that your kids can be like hey do you have 90s shit no we kind of get rid of our stuff marie kondo that shit yeah yeah yeah i'm doing my mother fucking saves fucking everything and like i remember as a kid like i used to put together some wild ass costumes because like you know my dad would just be fucking buying the weirdest shit in the 80s and i'm like oh this is a fucking costume i had a pink leather jacket like a like a wow that was made of leather and it was fuchsia that should be my fucking people been like where the fuck you got my bro just leave me alone okay wow that's impressive yeah um all right those are that's our fright geist our annual halloween costume rundown we did it we did it we'll probably return to it
Starting point is 00:10:54 and then we do uh hey what'd we see last night the day after halloween when nobody cares anymore and i'm not saying shit because i'm not going out yeah oh you're not i mean oh yeah that's true i mean no we are like you know the guy's child is about eight months old now so he will he will like the act he'll like the visual stimulation for sure yeah like we're gonna do something like that i'm totally forgot that we definitely have plans to walk him around we're trying to figure out if he's gonna be grogu or oh no oh no wow because i used to call him negro go wrong i called him negro goo because he kind of looked like a little blazing grogu when he was you know how like newborns got them big ass eyes and shit yeah yeah i was like wow it's like it's a great goo the guy's trying in particular some of some of the
Starting point is 00:11:43 biggest eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But now I'm not sure. I don't know. I don't know if he's giving Grogu anymore, you know, so we'll see. We'll decide.
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Starting point is 00:15:01 And we're back. And so there is a gag order in one of donald trump's cases people were saying that this might be the first instance of consequences from the charges he's facing as the most indicted man in america he was ordered by the judge to basically like not publicly attack the people who are specifically like part of the legal. He was like, don't like publicly attack these five people. And which seems like very limited. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You know, because he can still attack the judge. Yeah. Or the legals or the Department of Justice. Right. But it's like nobody like but nobody beneath me and nobody who might be a witness and none of that which makes sense i guess yeah it's like i don't know the the thing that they're putting the gag order on is like one of those things that for anyone else would be like yeah i mean obviously right like obviously you can't do that but talk spice during my trial
Starting point is 00:16:01 yeah it's one of those like the fact that i even need to say this moments that you sometimes have uh and yet he immediately appealed and in the specific context of who he is this does feel like it will be impossible for him to do no like for him to be told not to talk shit about five specific people like he's not going to be able to not talk shit about those five people. He, like, apparently recently shared an article that was doxing the fucking New York Attorney General. Yeah. Like, he's not going to fucking, like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Like, honestly, I'm not sure he's fucking capable of that. Right. But, yeah, I mean, will he ever be found in contempt of court you'd think so at some point some of this shit would add up uh but he's i mean he's stressing too there's a poll that just came out that said rfk jr is taking a bite out of his ass right now in the polling wow like that you know you know head to head between joe byron and trump it's 49-46 to Biden. And with RFK entering, it opens up a seven-point gap between Biden and Trump. It's truly wild because Biden is so unpopular.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Yeah, especially right now. We were just talking yesterday about what's he going to do when he goes to Israel? What is he going to say? How did he do, Miles? you know we were just talking yesterday but like what's he gonna do when he goes to israel what is he gonna say how do you do miles well he basically did a thing that was like 70 bad with 30 okay stuff but he's still basically being like oh yeah we stand like don't worry like you know do what you gotta do and also like remember that there are civilians you know that might be dying innocently but also hey man amer America will always stand by your side. And maybe we can open like a humanitarian corridor. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I mean, like, I'm not sure what again, what is being said behind the scenes. But what's wild is like right after, you know, Biden is trying to not use. I mean, it's still I wouldn't say language that's really bringing things down. I guess only slightly like fucking then Yahoo took the mic and and was like this is hold on where is it let me just find this oh then netanyahu takes the mic and basically is like this is basically a fucking battle between the forces of civilization and the forces of barbarism the civilized world must unite to defeat hamas and you're like oh shit bro right back in it and you know on top of that there's like this this the the hospital that was like bombed
Starting point is 00:18:33 that's becoming like so contentious now would be like who did it who done it who didn't do it and i think we're losing sight by trying to fucking at this point everything's fucking tragic but i think what remains is the fact is we need a ceasefire because that means less explosive things are flying through the air yes um and yeah and now there's a fucking uh protest at the capitol in dc and the right wingers are fucking going all in thinking this is january 6th so like it's an insurrection at the capitol right these peaceful protesters are sitting down in the rotunda they're not ripping shit off the wall
Starting point is 00:19:10 and they're like it's becoming again social media absolute like the you know i've seen a few articles this week that are like man the digital town square like the concept of that like is rapidly just deteriorating before yeah it's disappearing yeah basically it is dust around us at this point yeah um but like it's our only like sandbox to play in for a lot of the time so people are like but what do i fuck so yeah and i'm saying too this is this is with ai barely cooking right what happens in the next one or whatever you know whatever in the next yeah anything you know large event where you have you know vested interest in things going one way or the other i mean i've it's hard to imagine how it could get less clear than this like the what's happening in gaza the you know people who are focusing on like saying this
Starting point is 00:20:07 happened was done by this person and like in the immediate aftermath of like innocent people tragically being killed i feel like the point remains like if there was a ceasefire less innocent people would be getting murdered yeah and that that's the thing that needs to remain the focus and you know someone getting something wrong because in the immediate aftermath of a story does not invalidate their feelings that innocent people should stop being killed yeah but that it seems to be like the tenor that is happening of like, people are just like up all night, like fact checking who killed this group versus, or like who bombed this building. And it's fucking, the whole thing is just tragic.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Yeah. And we're, we're, and like, you know, listen to these people that are around the world being like, just fucking stop, please like work on a ceasefire.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But I don't know again i don't think anything that joe biden said came close to that um he didn't say the thing about post 9-11 like that we he said that was the closest right where he's like hey man we were hot after 9-11 and you know we wanted he said this is what he said i'll give his full-on remarks um and he says you can't look at what has happened here and not scream out for justice. But I caution this. While you feel that rage,
Starting point is 00:21:30 don't be consumed by it. After 9-11, we were enraged in the United States. And while we sought justice and got justice, did you? We also made mistakes, like my vote for the Iraq war.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Name names. Yes. Myself included. Myself included. Myself included. Myself included. So, again, you know, this is, I don't know, the iraq war name names yes myself included myself included myself included myself included so again you know this is i don't know like it i'm you just you just see the escalations happening like just even like on the border of lebanon um and you're you're wondering what kind of leverage
Starting point is 00:21:59 joe biden is actually willing to use because now you're entering an election season and you know you may have rfk helping out a little bit but there are a lot of people that have been completely demoralized and are like looking at like what is this election means and a lot of people pointed out they're like there's actually no choice for someone who would end this violence right no matter who at all no matter who is nominated um on the right like your your choices are war and war yeah yeah exactly um all right uh and then just an update on the you know the speakership uh jim jordan finally um oh wait no he got he got outvoted by hakeem jeffries dude it's so fun so he had he had another vote again he said okay fine fuck it i took an l in the second and the first vote had another vote today he had more he lost more support in this
Starting point is 00:23:00 second vote but he's losing support with every subsequent vote. Hakeem Jeffries still had the full support of House Democrats, so he got 212 votes to Jordan's 199. And, like, it's just so wild how, with how fucked up everything is happening and, like, how Congress, you know, is kind of, like, this important legislative body, it's now devolving into, like, Democrats,
Starting point is 00:23:21 like, hooting and hollering and, like, trolling the Republicans because they can't get their shit together to vote a speak vote for a speaker um i just want to play this clip of like when i don't know the the republic or the democrats were like yeah bro jeffries three and their tallies that the total number of votes cast is 433 of which the honorable jim jordan of the state of ohio has received 199 the honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york is received 212 yeah they're just they're just clapping it up they're loving it uh and now how hard did he go
Starting point is 00:24:06 with the gavel after he announced that oh you know what i didn't get there i didn't get a clip of him you know adjourning the session so i oh we missed that one there are people floating the idea that maybe it could be mchenry um just leave it with the little guy smash smash as like a you know you know a speaker pro tem kind of thing um but i don't know there's there's so many like now like the punditry class is like oh maybe the democrats might do something but that's just all of them saying something and not i don't think anything substantive um of getting democrats to help them out unless they're gonna get major concessions from them which i think is the only thing that would potentially make that happen but i don't think at this point it sounds like they're
Starting point is 00:24:48 fine with again the greatest thing for the democrats to not do anything progressive is to just be able to point to the fucking garbage fire of the republicans and be like dude we're not that right yeah so it's not good news necessarily um Is there any momentum on the Trump becoming speaker of the house thing? No. I mean, as of right now, no. Because again, you have to actually fucking be there. Right. He has way too many.
Starting point is 00:25:16 Dude, he's going to have fucking, he's going to be in court every other day, basically. Yeah. While running for president. Yeah. And he, dude, did you, you saw that speech he gave like a couple days ago where he was just slurring through it is what do we think is happening we're just old because we we know he doesn't drink but he is also does seem to just like blow huge rails of adderall yeah so are we just thinking that like he's on a run of adderall that's and it's just like
Starting point is 00:25:45 wearing down and he hasn't had his like week off to recharge i don't know man because it's i don't know what the fuck is going on it's probably being like really tired and like old it it just i don't know man it's it's something here like this is this is like when he was talking about you saw that clip when he's talking about christmas and shit no i don't know, man. It's something. This is like when he was talking about Christmas and shit? No, I don't think so. This is when he was in Iowa. His speeches seem to be being generated by AI at this point.
Starting point is 00:26:14 It's just... Yeah, hell yeah. Super producer Brian said he's like Elvis. That really feels like he is... Latter-day Elvis. Latter-day Elvis. Yeah, because Elvis was also a no drinking no drugs person while dying of a drug overdose because he didn't count prescription drugs right this is him talking about chris i don't know here he couldn't have been too impressed with
Starting point is 00:26:36 our capital it looks like shit no have you seen what they've done and we're doing a federal takeover okay that's one part just like i said who's he talking about remember the department stewards weren't they refused to use the word christmas i'm sorry you could care less about the team struggling sir you care less about the team struggling, sir. I could care less about America struggling. I want to kiss you. Oh, my God. So here we are. He called it hummus, apparently, at one point.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Yeah, he called it hummus. Like, it was very... And he's... I don't know, man. This is... These are the options. This is what's on the buffet for Americans. Yeah. Killing it.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Well, those are some of the things that are trending. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Bye. Bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. Bye. Bye. your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history.
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