The Daily Zeitgeist - The WeekTrend Update 11/20: Sam Altman, Andre 3000, Snoop Dogg, Bill Clinton, SpaceX

Episode Date: November 20, 2023

In this edition of The WeekTrend Update, Jack and Bryan the Editor discuss Sam Altman getting fired from OpenAI (and immediately rehired at Microsoft), the new Andre 3000 album, Snoop Dogg quitting smoke (by way of a smokeless fire pit), Bill Clinton's botched Rosalynn Carter statement, and another in a long line of exploded SpaceX rockets!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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end yeah now my kid's sick but that's just constant constant state of things. Yeah, Weekend was good. It was uneventful. It was filled with the music of contemplative black male artists in their 40s. Yeah. In the way of Danny Brown and Andre 3000. So that was my weekend. Oh, I didn't listen to the Danny Brown. Oh, it's a low voice album. It's he brings the drama.

There's none of this hype stuff on there, really. He's very serious. He's very adult. And he's going through it. Or he's been through it. So we are going to talk about the Andre album in a bit, which is a true journey. Took me on a real journey. Bro.

I've only listened to it a couple times, but I think it will continue to evolve into a panther. Yeah, it's definitely in my rotation. Yeah. But before we get to what's happening out there, Brian, we like to talk about something that we think is overrated and underrated. You want to start? You want me to kick it off?

I can start just because yours seems a little more thought out than mine. So for me, overrated, I'm torn. I'm indecisive. I put a couple in here. i'm just gonna i'm just gonna run run through those so my first overrated is birthdays for adults yeah i tend to agree with this so uh my partner's birthday is coming up and we're trying to i'm just we're just i don't want to do anything for it yeah i'm trying to navigate this this birthday you know we're both um old so we don't give a shit about our birthdays but there's this

nagging feeling of like some sort of obligation that you need to do something or go somewhere yeah um and it's really tiresome because it's like we're just we're just sat here like i'm i'm just i'm just lobbing stuff at her like hey you want to do this you want to go here you know yes and no like i mean i guess we might as well it's just like you know we're we're both the you know basically like 40 and have disposable incomes. And we just could not care less about how old we are or what we should be doing on our birthdays. And it's just like, I don't know. I feel like that's a concept that should die in like a Logan's run esque kind of way where once you hit a certain age, you stop getting birthdays

or they're just sort of lumped together or they're just sort of periodic or it's a holiday for old people. You do the big one. Yeah, but just get out of there. After 30, you just have a birthday every 10 years or something like that. I don't know, but it's tiresome.

It doesn't even count. Yeah, it would be helpful if culture was just like no that's after this age you don't get birthdays like after 18 what do we think after 18 could work um but like i feel like people in their 20s really like still get something out of it yeah still need it yeah it wasn't me personally but um yeah i feel like i feel like you know logan's run rules like like 30 they hit you with the blue laser and you don't get any more birthdays um what happens in logan's run i actually never watched well you can like you can like do whatever you're born you can do whatever you want i mean

there's i have a lot of questions about logan's run i actually don't like that movie but i find it fascinating because there's no black people and the the how this is the society works is real they never they didn't flesh out the details but basically you're born you can live free you don't have to work or die you can bone uh all this stuff and then when you hit 30 they take you to the arena and they hit you with that laser or whatever the fuck it is and then you're gone oh they kill you yeah they get rid of your ass um yeah all right and you know i don't think it's a terrible idea in certain aspects. 30 is pretty young.

30 is pretty young, but yeah, it's a curious film to me. I always found it a little odd. Second thing, just real quick, is New Therapist. Underrated, or overrated is New Therapist. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not they themselves, but the whole process of not just finding one but it's more after you've found one that you think is viable the whole process of catching them up on everything that's wrong with you right that is the fucking pain in the ass of

like where do you start and then you only have an hour to like start catching them up and you gotta pick it's just it's such a weird format to me yeah like especially with a new therapist there's so much wasted time to me of i wish yeah i wish you could like do like matrix style just download all your trauma into someone's brain so you don't have to like talk through it you can just get down to brass tacks it would just it would be so nice if you check your inbox i've sent you 12 single spaced pages yeah or like a dossier of trauma dossier so yeah those are my overrateds all right um my my overrated i got a couple too i got just current websites generally i don't know they at a certain point i just expected uh accepted that websites

were going to be bad and that's weird because i used to work on a website and they don't have to be broken and they like they used to work when there was a problem that people were facing like a an article page was broken or like ads were choking out people's ability to like read an article like you would then go talk to the people who worked on the programming side and they would, they would, you know, try and fix that. You know,

it's funny, Jack, because I feel like it used to be like porn sites that were yammed up with ads and pop-ups and stuff back in the day. And now it's new sites. Yeah. We've just given up new sites are the new porn sites because man they're just completely and it's fun it's fucked because it's like it's different when

you're trying to like i don't know watch porn for example like it right there's not a whole lot of like real information let's be honest that's what you're like let's say for instance i don't know you're watching porn and it's like there's no information important information that that site's trying to impart yeah it's for entertainment purposes yeah but yeah when you're trying to read an article and you got like oh man i mean we've all seen it. It's just brutal. It's gotten so bad. Yeah, it's so bad. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a mess.

I feel like we've just kind of given up. And I'm not sure. I don't know that there's a way to fix it necessarily. Other than, I guess, like, the subscription sites where you don't have ads are more usable. where you don't have ads are more usable but it's truly it just at a certain point it got so bad and everyone was just like yeah that's that's just like what what the internet is and like a lot of times like news sites are like you have an ad blocker on you can't you can't come here and that sucks for you is it just the advertisements or is or are there design elements that are i think they just like stopped paying attention like they stopped it just the whole thing feels

vastly understaffed it's the van vat of it all also you know yeah i refer to frequently this article where i saw a headline on the side of a news article that said it's no big secret why VanVaught no longer works in Hollywood. It was a picture of Vince Vaughn. They had outsourced the headline writing to AI. It feels like a lot of different

things have been outsourced to AI and we're just not acknowledging it. Yeah, it really is coming in from multiple angles like the quality drop yeah the other one that's just kind of random but crowd scenes in movies i just watched the movie king richard my family's going through a bit of a tennis thing at the moment a bit of a will smith uh phase right now a bit of a will smith uh phase right now bit of a will smith phase um but the movie like ends with

a climactic crowd scene that like doesn't really make sense they're like leaving venus williams's first public match or like what her first one that like people were like wow she's really good and she's sad because she ends up losing it it It's like a Rocky, you know, sports movie ending Rocky shaped sports movie ending. Well, cause we know how it really is. Right. But then as they leave like the empty stadium at the end, there's this crowd of people in like an otherwise desolate landscape,

like an empty parking lot. So they've like, I don't know. It's like car commercial empty, the landscape. But then this inexplicable crowd that seems like there's something from like a video game are just there being like Venus, Venus,

Venus over here for an autograph. Venus hurrah for you, Venus. We are your fans. Venus. I was watching with my wife. She's like, who are, wait, what's happening? i was watching with my wife she's like who who are wait what's

happening who are these people and it's like it's been a pretty solid movie to that point but it's just like totally pulled you right out of it it's the like all and the performances by the crowd are like really bad they don't really make sense they They're like, Serena, who is not yet a known tennis player, gives somebody an autograph. They're like, you too, Serena. And then she gives someone an autograph and someone pumps their fist, even though they wouldn't know who her little

sister is. But yeah, I don't know. I've just been noticing this a lot. As I mentioned, we were going through a thriller phase. We were just watching The Line of Fire and there's this key scene in a presidential campaign stop where like John Malkovich fools Clint Eastwood with a popped balloon. And it's like part of the thing that drives it is like that he's in the middle of this like frantic crowd,

but the crowd is like, doesn't make sense. It's just people in suits with like wooden expressions on their face just like rushing the president for no good reason yeah directing crowds must be a real pain in the ass there's just way too many way too many particles in there um yeah exactly there's too much too much to control for but it feels it just feels like there's a huge gap between the like writing and like conception of a crowd scene and then like what they they are apparently a nightmare to pull off uh because especially in movies where we're like re-watching things on high def and

you're gonna get just like have you ever re-watched the movie braveheart or not on purpose not on purpose i have seen it multiple times but never of my own volition that was like the movie that substitute teachers showed in kentucky when like with you know i probably watched braveheart like multiple times through in uh high school mel gibson uh historical films uh famously have a real problem with accuracy so interesting choice yeah exactly um but like the crowd battle scenes it just looks i don't know it looks like he hired a hundred just dudes off the street they're like running into certain death but they have like these like smiles on their faces like lol like you can see the word lol on their faces like well that's

because that's because he hired them for their butts for what their butts look like that's true yeah it's like must show ass must show ass you just tell some of these motherfuckers have Snapple in their bodies. Just jostling around in there. They just came from the fucking the craft services tent. Just full of Snapple. Yes. There's so much Snapple. And they're supposed to be like serfs in a feudal era of anyways.

But yeah, those are my overrated uh what's your what's your underrated brian all right underrated what the fuck did i put um okay uh first one water pressure water pressure and just generally like you know the the modern marvel of plumbing um yeah so i live in a place where um the water pressure frequently drops to an unacceptable level right and i have to take one of those um one of those showers i don't know if you're familiar jack where you kind of basically have to almost lean up against a leaky wall.

Yes. Just cover the wall with your body's surface area to get the water to grip over you. It probably looks like some weird, sexy music video from the 90s, unsexified.

What is he doing to that wall somebody who just like happens on you oh my god yeah um so it's it's one of those things that you don't really appreciate and it's it's like i'm gonna be moving next year to like a new place and it's it's that's one of the things uh me my partner that is top of the list is water pressure but a bathroom with killer water pressure um so yeah that's that's one underrated for me and then another tangentially related thing is uh self-imposed exile uh slash solitude um so i've been in basically self-imposed exile for like five years yeah something you may not know um after you tried to take over the government napoleon style yeah it's a whole thing um napoleon style yeah it's a whole thing um but basically i've been sorting my life out and just staying at home a lot and uh i've gotten a lot of stuff done um yeah i've worked on my

mental health uh i've taken my poor credit up to quite good um, yeah, just taking time for yourself to the extreme doesn't have to be, uh, a terrible thing, at least for me. No. Yeah. Cause yeah, now,

now, now I'm ready to get back out there and interact with people and not Americans, but, um, yeah, I was going to say just generally, I think it's a worthy experiment for everyone to try and take some time.

If you were born and raised in the United States, to try and take some time away from the United States and go through the... Your body may reject it at first, but... It definitely does. There will be a quietnessness a quieting of the soul that takes place and when you come back you will see things in a new light uh that some of the things that you just kind of take for granted having grown up in the united states you like start to see as being like weird and artificially sped up and yeah just kind of dark impulses that you don't have to partake in yeah you there there's so many things that when

you step away and you come back you're like whoa like every and it's just like okay this doesn't make any sense and i just um yeah just taking, it turns out a lot of my stressors were, and I hate that this is true, but a lot of my stressors kind of boil down to America problems. Yeah. Because my stress levels are at an all-time low. The range of strong emotions has narrowed, and I feel more balanced. So, yeah.

Yeah. I definitely was somebody who, in my 20s, and this isn't how I come across publicly, but I think privately, almost exclusively privately i i was like i'm an angry person because i'm very like angry at myself and like very hard on myself when i like fall short and yeah would there would be uh you know little temper tantrums i would have with myself like at myself and i just like kind of taken that for granted as like, that's who I am. That's just, yeah.

It doesn't need to be. It really doesn't. You don't have to be like an angry person. It's just, yeah. Finding out what, what, what it is. That's like getting under your skin and seeing what you can do to work with

that or alleviate that or remove that from your life. Yeah. It's, it does wonders for your mental health um let's see for my underrated i have like a page and a half on the digestive system which i was like so on board for so first of all nothing makes you appreciate something like having it just like go out on you like but my digestive system stopped yeah exactly my digestive system stopped working for a few uh last last week and it was uh unpleasant and also the other thing that has like put this the front and the center of my mind is one of my kids

is obsessed with the digestive systems like just with digest like of like i find him reading about digestive systems all the time like if there's a science book in the house about animals or like the human body like how do you fit that many miles of intestines in a person it's incredible like how many yeah yeah but he if you leave him alone with uh you know something that is attached to google you better believe he is looking at the digestive system like getting all up in them guts uh so to speak um with his mind with his curious child's mind. And like, at first I like chalked it up to, you know, both of my kids are think poop is funny and are kind of talk about poop all the time.

And I was like, this is just like a more intellectual approach to being obsessed with poop. But I also think that like the reason most kids and like most humans find poop funny, like at our most elemental level like i think you know humor is like us realizing something or coming to terms with something that we can't like grasp with our conscious mind and you know there's like anxiety or like a magic or something that's unexamined but i think it's because it like deserves that attention like it deserves

that power it's like a massively powerful incredible system inside of all of us that does something that i feel like no human invention can really rival like it takes our delicious food first of all it like craves exactly the food the fuel that like your body needs that's the thing it's in control you don't realize it is completely in control it's got a lot of neurons firing off down there it's got taste buds down in your in your stomach and then it uses chemical compounds to like turn that fuel that it craves and like go like helps you go about acquiring into life but like not in like a whimsical way it's so like wet and sloppy and like alive it's like a drive-through car wash made of like blood and acid and mud and bile

and then also just like from an existential like lived experience it's the part of our human experience that is most grounded like you feel the big important ideas like a lot of times for me it's like ideas my brain isn't ready for yet i feel them in my gut you know and like what we today call like having feelings for, they used to call having bowels for someone because people in history were nasty little shit freaks. How romantic. I know, exactly. I have bowels for you, baby. But it's kind of, for me, at least in my lived experience, it's kind of the most grounded, immovable part of my felt human experience like when i have

anxiety about something unresolved my brain can distract itself with bullshit but my guts like you know they don't untangle so easily yeah you got nose yeah i don't know is it's interesting and yeah i so i don't know i like to look at the things like my kids are into and think heavily about them so uh next week you will get a you know three-hour treatise on star wars i guess tight all right those are our overrated and underrated um let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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I've heard of Sam Bankman-Fried, but Sam Altman-Fired? So this was one of AI's big dogs in the world of the companies that are using AI, that are fueling a big chunk of the growth in the stock market. He's also kind of the spokesperson there's that atlantic article that was uh extremely long and basically was like hey i might

kill us all terminator style and he was kind of the main source in that article it was like kind of a feature on him he's like going from one meeting to another around the world just being like yeah it's really scary man like it's um you know he told the new yorker uh that he kept a cyanide capsule on him in case like an AI takeover in the style of Mitchells vs. the Machines or iRobot is like one of the dangers

of artificial intelligence that's how you know this guy's a chucklefuck it's like we literally AI literally doesn't exist yet but you got that thing on you okay buddy exactly like he we're dealing with chat that's not what we're like get out of here he of all people knows the longer this story goes the more it becomes clear that this was a situation so he was unexpectedly fired by the

board of the company open ai there's been stories where like 500 of the 700 employees of the company OpenAI. There's been stories where 500 of the 700 employees of the company are like, if you don't bring him back, we quit. So he's obviously very unpopular at the company. But it seems like the board was saying we should pump the brakes on some of this stuff.

And he was more of a racing full throttle forward with just trying to develop this into something that was, uh, you know, easier to make money off of, which again,

see, it's funny because right. That letter. Yeah. He's part of part of the letter. He's the one he's Sinai capsule guy. Um, and apparently the board found out he was like hiding things or not being totally candid

and yeah so microsoft has hired him right up yeah scooped his ass right up and was like yes he's going to lead a major division of our company um and uh i don't know it'll be interesting to learn more about what the nature of the disagreement is. But I feel like the market is doing the thing that we... Anytime someone's like, well, the market will figure it out, right? I'm always like, this is how the market will work. It will reward whoever is the most ambitious about making the most money off of a thing in the most short sighted way possible. Yeah, it's like there's no altruism in capitalism.

It's not a fucking thing, everybody. Yeah, it does. They would end the world. They would end the world and have shown this repeatedly with fossil fuel companies being at the forefront of climate change research in, setting a new pace for innovation and an apparent contrast at the OpenAI board's desire for caution in developing AI technology. Yeah, because Microsoft was so, so thirsty to get their AI tools out, their little co-pilot thing. They're going full steam ahead. out there, a little co-pilot thing. They're going full steam ahead. I'm sure they're glad to have

on somebody who's, let's just say they're trying to race full throttle forward. Yeah. Into the breach. So it seems like a good match. Yeah, and I'm happy for them. I love that for them. Love that for us. Who cares about us? As long as Microsoft makes

money, that'll be fun. Alright. Brian, you are a musician um i was yes you were a musician temporarily on hiatus but i i missed the episodes where you guys talked about andre's new album oh yeah your digestive system it was i was uh busy thinking about my digestive system but andre dropped an album that when i first listened to it i was like this is spa music but then like there would be these moments where i was like god that would be like so cool if someone like sampled that and like wrapped over it and turned it into the type of music I like. But as the album went on and as I listened to it a second time, I was like, he has transcended rap music and death and the only true form is flute.

It's trippy. It's very interesting. It's definitely not the type of shit that i would normally be listening to my wife found me listening to it was like what are you listening to oh nothing nothing like getting walking on while you're doing some new age i was shirtless with loincloth on just sitting indian style with uh yeah but what what are your what are your thoughts how did it kind of compare to your expectations so um my first listen um and yeah expectations is an important word because i had a not dissimilar reaction from you of i didn't go immediately to spa music but i was there was this whole battle in my head of when it first came on and it has those really nice

little chords going and i was like my first thought was like yo you chop this up i'm right you chop this up right you got a beat going and then I was like and after maybe like 10 minutes you know letting the song develop that left my mind and I started to become absorbed in the music itself another thought that crossed my mind in the first track was this reminds me of music from Zelda, from the last two Zelda games. Like when you're going, like when you're chilling in, you know, for my Zelda heads,

when you're chilling in a Tino village, just to hang out with all the lovely people there. And that feeling you get of peace when you're in a Tino village, that's kind of what it reminded me of, too. And then all of that gradually melted away as the album developed. And I started to sort of accept it as it is on its own terms and sort of forgetting that it's made by this, you know one of the greatest rappers of all time and and yeah it just it ended up being what i think is just a really uh earnest expression and um a good genre piece like it's solid ambient ish music there's like an element of like free jazz and, you know, like Alice Coltrane type stuff.

But yeah, I'd put it firmly in the ambient camp and not like, you know, ambient. But yeah, it's it's great. I went and got a massage on Friday. That's the real test. That's what I'm going to. This is this has to be good for the massage business just around America. What I just said, you know, about it being like this thing. Yeah, I did go to the spa immediately, literally almost immediately and got a 90 minute massage and listen to the whole album.

And it was it was fit for purpose. Let me tell you, it was great. It was it was a fantastic was fit for purpose let me tell you it was great it was it was a fantastic audio journey uh for a massage and just sort of like letting your mind just go like where it wants to yeah it's a good it's a good just kind of doing nothing you know if you're into meditation this is probably a good one to fuck with yeah just sitting peacefully staring out the window staring at the ceiling yeah all right let's take another quick break we'll come back we'll tell you what uh snooper was really meaning when he said he's

giving up smoke we'll be right back i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.

It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job

is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.

Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that?

I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?

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please. Uh, but doing a kind of notes, perfect recreation of what it would look like if he was actually saying, I have a problem, please. Like, right.

Because he asked to, for people to respect his privacy at this time time at this time him and and his family's privacy i'm so conflicted and it has been revealed that uh this was part of it's not even a super bowl ad it's just like a an ad he said uh the only thing because i think we've been saying that we suspected it was going to be for a vape product or like a gummies product or something like that and the only thing we're wrong about is it's not a we it's not for a weed product it's for basically a gas fireplace like a little smokeless fireplace it's like a little trash can you can set a fire in your back yeah miniature uh trash can it's a miniature trash can that you and your barbershop quartet

can sing around when it gets cold at night yes assuming that you have the fingerless gloves and a little bindle yeah a little bindle stick and that you're unshaven to the right degree yes you can warm your little hands around this fire and sing do up but a lot of people are like this was well played and a lot of other people are like

I'm so tired that's what it feels like to me it just feels like you know capitalism is good at capitalism you know like there's just there's always this is what the you know top grads from some of america's and yeah you know other countries humanitarian uh humanities programs go into is like the smartest people in the world are working in advertising and marketing like exactly straight up and they're making your shampoo yes and they're

uh calculating the best mouth feel for junk food so you can't stop eating yeah that's or they're working in fucking you know hedge funds and other markets and shit like that i don't know if that's true anymore it definitely was true 10 years ago i do feel like people have like been like fuck this at a certain point so um hopefully we we stop with everybody just going into the worst possible industries but yeah it's hard to be mad at snoop yeah it's like snoop especially in you know the last 10 years snoop doesn't do anything unless there's a check involved and it doesn't really seem to matter like uh where the check is coming from like he just likes to get paid and he will pull up for a paycheck. Yeah. Full stop.

Um, and you look at him in here and his picture roasting his little marshmallow, uh, over his trash can. And he looks so happy and stoned. That's right. Like when that wire hit the bank account, can we get the moment when the wire hit the bank account in this ad?

All right. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. He also lights the marshmallow on fire, which will cause smoke. But that's other than that, you know? Yeah. You're going to get a little.

I mean, but hey, you want a little carbonation on the marshmallow. Yeah. A little bit. Another news story that kind of made me tired was this Bill Clinton fucking up the memorial statement for Rosalind carter rosalind carter one half of the longest lived presidential couple in american history died on sunday and she was 96 jimmy carter who went into hospice uh almost a year ago is still alive but bill Bill Clinton like posted a statement. He was like,

Rosalind Carter was the embodiment of a life lived with purpose. Mine, Hillary's full statement. And then it was a JPEG of their statement for the passing of Diane Feinstein. So his people just got two different dead elderly women confused uploaded the statement that had already been posted about feinstein was deleted obviously replaced with the correct statement but like i don't know it's just one of those things it's like just imagining the machinations of the

behind the scene of like all right post the state you know he probably this is why this is why you don't let bill manage his own twitter account right i can't imagine it was but like what are we even doing here he has like a staff with various statements on deck for deaths of famous people well this is just hasn't hasn't this happened before i feel like this happened before like maybe years ago a year or two ago like somebody died and i feel like this is just a thing that politicians do especially like when there's like you know like a shooting or something it's like they have these copy paste things just they have a folder of oh here's the statement for a shooting

here's a statement for when uh an old senator dies here's yeah it's just yeah there i mean news agencies for sure all have like obituaries for most famous people on deck and then like i remember when i worked at abc news when i was you know right out of school they i think the pope i think it was the pope died and they you know had one on deck but you had to make sure that he was actually dead before you posted it and they have an entire TV package on deck and sometimes they

accidentally run it before somebody has died and then people are like, wait a second. But yeah, I don't know. The fact that also the clintons have like these statements drafted um for deaths and it's just like such a dry rote pointless exercise in like inhumanity and for what like are people sitting around waiting for bill clinton's thoughts on this maybe maybe yeah obligations are um and you know decorum are weird um yeah and they don't really make a whole lot of sense a lot of the time

yeah of like yeah we're not checking for you but i mean you gotta like you're part of this institution so i get it that you gotta make a statement because you're a former president that's alive, I guess. But a little more effort, maybe. Right. Yeah. Maybe. Yeah. Maybe get the name right.

Put more stuff on. Yeah. Maybe get the name right. It'd be funny if they reposted it, but it was just like control all control F like replace the exact same thing. It's just control. Oh, my God. All right. SpaceX had their second Starship test launch kind of losing track.

You know, I've seen footage of SpaceX Starships that launch and land and successfully um i guess these are these are the ones that are they're testing because they're going to make the moon mission um so this is the second after the first one like blew up right after it took off and they were like yes that is what we meant to do they did like the rocketry equivalent of like tripping and breaking into a light jog to pretend like that's what you you didn't trip and you meant to do that um yeah they're it's like there's a mandate that they're not allowed to have like failures or failure is part of the plan or something. Yeah. They, they're meant to fail every time. So another successful launch on,

um, over the weekend, because once again, the ship blew up just minutes after launch, but it improved on the previous launch still ended in literal disaster. It improved on the previous launch by exploding later. That's exactly right. Didn't explode immediately.

So this is progress. It illustrated that they had fixed key issues from the last test. This person, Astro Jordy, Jordan, a blue check mark, you will be shocked to learn, responds to the Verge article being like, you forgot to mention that everything that went wrong in the first test flight from a few months ago went right today we expect explosions and during these test flights we are okay with them spacex is making history no matter what and they're doing incredible work now astro jordy um first off get off the nutsacks um you don't even go here.

So I looked it up. I was like, oh, that's such a weird, inarticulate statement from somebody who works for SpaceX. You have Astro in your name. I'm like, there's no way you work for fucking SpaceX, sir. Yeah. According to his Twitter handle, or his

Twitter bio, he's just a... What's the truck? He's just a Cybertruck fanboy. Oh, you're a fan of this thing that doesn't exist. Cool, cool. That gives you an opinion

on literal rocket science. Yeah. The rocket and the booster separate but i do love the invocation you know sports fans do this so i'm not gonna be too hard on them but the it's the same energy this and we are on course this is like such you are not going to the moon sir you don't have a ticket he is doing this specifically to leave you behind he's like he's vying for like a test subject position yes in one any of elon's company hey bro you can put a chip in me you can send me to the moon you can send me on

a rocket to the sun i don't care yeah so they were hoping for a water landing instead the booster separated then exploded and the starship actually reached space this time and then they lost contact with the ship just minutes after the launch and apparently it exploded too after the automated flight termination system

triggered so that's like they have an automated like will self-destruct in five seconds um but so people people just kept referring to this as like well this is all about the cultural differences between spacex and traditional nasa engineering because nasa like will always design things to perfection before testing them out and spacex says their motto is build test break repeat i don't know i think that's i don't i don't know enough about like these systems are like that well you remember the challenger disaster right so that was back when NASA got a little cavalier with their testing methodology.

Right. And then a school teacher blew up along with like five or six other people. So after that, you know, it's like NASA was very, they're all about their testing. And then they're like, you know what? We got this. We've been to the moon a few times. We're good. 80s came around. They had a fucking disaster have you guys seen apollo 13 i know it's not out yet

but like we're nasa we've seen it that's uh we can't fuck up we're we're invincible and yeah no they knew that that shit like there was a big panel of people who were in charge of like making the decision of whether or not to launch the challenger and a majority of them knew that what happened to the challenger was had a very good chance of happening yeah it was totally totally preventable um they were they were they had a they had a fucking clue before it happened yeah and yeah that's that's what happens when you are cavalier with with safety in inhospitable environments and situations like going deep into the ocean to see the Titanic or going into space or lighting a massive explosion underneath you and sending it out through a tiny little butthole at the bottom of a rocket. underneath you and sending it out through a tiny little butthole at the bottom of a rocket right um cool like they like to move fast and break things they're taking that tech ethos into a space uh well pardon the pun into a space where i don't really think it belongs um yeah but you know he's got he's got the capital in the clout and to do this sort of thing

and nasa's backing private industries going to space because they don't get enough funding to do it themselves yeah exactly and because it's in fashion for us to be like the market will figure it out um plus it's like you know if something goes wrong you know nasa doesn't have to take the scrutiny uh if a rocket blows up yeah um by the way thank you for putting the um you know physics of rocketry into the um terms of a digestive system where the rocket is just farting itself into space that that was helpful for my purposes yeah it's like how do you how do you how do you how do you fart fire without exploding yourself that's right i ask myself that every day um but also so like i can't identify i

can't say whether it's like a good strategy like whether they're identifying more potential flaws than nasa would be with its pencil neck math or whatever it does but um it does seem like it will be a little scarier to go up in one of these rockets once they've got it figured out like this is a private enterprise if delta airlines method for introducing a new aircraft was to like blow a bunch of them up in highly public test flights before you boarded one a decade later i feel like people would be like i think i'm gonna like fly american or whatever but this scary i'm scared now but i mean this is this is how he does things it's like i mean you can all you have to do is look at tesla's to see it's like yeah you don't need like a fully working viable product that does everything it says on the tin to sell a shit zillion of them yeah that's who whoever the fuck

is is really vying for them because it's like yeah that that car is not it's no matter how you feel about, that car is not what was fucking promised. No. At all. So yeah, I don't want to see the finished product. I don't want to be on the finished product. So don't tell that to Astro Geordie. The problems with the Cybertruck are exactly what we had in mind.

And it's also like design stuff. Like you ever tried to get in a tesla oh yeah and like like the handle what the fuck is that i'm like okay this innovation didn't need to happen you ever uh try and drive a tesla like what is that yoke where it's got like 540 degree rotation but you can only hold it on two sides that doesn't make sense like at all the yoke about i'm not like those weird steering wheels they have the steering wheels that don't have the they do the full steering wheel turn but there's no top and bottom so you have to awkwardly like and it's like you make the turning radius shorter if you have a yoke or you put in a real steering wheel you don't mix those things it's the future

feels like the future and i'm like what's his what is like what are the uh quality of life features gonna be in this fucking rocket like is it is the rocket gonna have a steering wheel like because that doesn't make sense yeah they're they're just like doing three point turns yeah yeah so i don't know we'll see i i generally have a hard time believing that this philosophy of just like blowing massive amounts of metal and jet fuel up uh and pretending it's what you intended to do. And also, because of the ties to NASA, pressure's been put on the FAA and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to just say that these test launches are okay,

which they do despite incidents of flaming debris landing in public wildlife preserves. Like... Yeah. Well, it's just like, oh my God. Yeah, it's like they've've already like florida's already given him a free pass basically they've already set it up that when one of these you know second stage rockets lands on someone's fucking condo that he he he will not have to answer for it

they'll just drop a glass dome over it. I feel like that's where it'll happen. We meant to do that. And actually, we're cutting all these people off, not to kill them and replace them, but because we want to study them because it's helpful to future launches. All right.

Those are some of the things that were trending over the weekend that are trending this Monday morning. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all tomorrow.

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