The Daily Zeitgeist - The WeekTrend Update 12/04: George Santos, Oxford Word of the Year, Beyonce, UAW, Kiss

Episode Date: December 4, 2023

In this edition of The WeekTrend Update, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, George Santos' expulsion from Congress, the Oxford English Dictionary Word of the Year: Riz, Beyonce topping the box office, the UAW joining the call for a ceasefire in Gaza, and Kiss performing their final show (in physical form)!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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yep um i know i sound like i'm about to cry uh i don't know why are you i think it's just a thing my voice is doing i don't feel like i'm about to cry but uh yeah thing thing about me miles i can can burst into tears at any moment the hat dude i need my eyes like naturally tear very easily so there's times like Her Majesty be like, are you crying right now? You crying? It's like light sensitivity. Like Tom Hanks in League of Their Own.

Yeah, exactly. It happens like in the morning, like if I go outside like too soon after waking up my eyes just go and then I'll be going like this like wiping my eyes and i i'm being accused of being touched by the how beautiful the sun rises it's not it's fine it's mid it's mid this sunrise is mid it's mid this morning was actually really nice oh was it so yeah i was walked my wife out to the car while wearing a pair of her fuzzy pink slippers.

I was literally going to say, we were wearing a robe and slippers. I was wearing, uh, no, I was just still wearing the shorts and t-shirt that I sleep in. Your night shorts. My night shorts.

Um, that sounds like shorts that you like shit in, in the middle ages or something. Um, anyways, night soil. Bring me my night shorts. Yeah. And pot um i am jack o'brien that is miles gray um and this is the episode where we tell you some of the things that happened over the weekend uh with us with the world uh we start off with us by telling you something that we think is underrated.

Yeah, give you a peek. I saw Killers of the Flower Moon over the weekend, and my underrated for this week is teeth acting. What's teeth acting? Oh my god. Well, I'm gonna lump in like brando and godfather with this like all the shit he was doing with like putting putting stuff in his lower jaw and stuff like those was it cotton balls or whatever is that yeah i think they said cotton balls um and but leonardo dicaprio in this has, I think one of the first historically accurate pair of teeth.

Um, they look like shit and they look, they are a fucking mess. And it's just from jump street. Like he, he see, like, they seem like they're painting him. Um, they're, they're just on display he looks like a totally different person it's kind of funny because part of his character's arc is like oh he's like hot because the woman molly that he's like married to and kind of conning is like stays married to him despite her best intentions and so you're like he's hot but

he's not like Leonardo DiCaprio hot he's like hot for a person who is just looks like a fucking mess just ground down by World War 1 exactly

that's what you would say is you're like you know that world war one vet looks like a jank ass leonardo dicaprio yeah but i don't know there is just a spell that is cast by a pair of fake teeth that i feel like is we underrate like we underrate how much a pair of fake teeth can do like it just has a hold on us like i feel like we we gave a set of prosthetic teeth an academy award for best actor a couple years back for bohemian rhapsody um and now like leo people are like this is an incredible performance and i think it is but his teeth are really just some funky ass gummed up plaqued over gumpers is what I wrote in my notes. I don't even know.

Gumpers. Yeah. It was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, but yeah, it makes the movie feel like there, there's just a lot of details in there that make the movie feel period

appropriate, but that's sort of the central one where it's just like this motherfucker has heard of people brushing their teeth right right um but i've heard of it yes but yeah i mean it's you remember like weird teeth performance like charlize theron and monster yeah i'm like yeah to your point i'm like it's something i think because right celebrities are so manicured and, you know, every single part of their, you know, visual presentation is like, it's like so intentional and they have like, you know, glam squads and shit like that. So when you see teeth that look like teeth that like on a normal, like a regular person who isn't like have, you know, veneers and like laser bleaching. They were like, whoa, dude, that is, that is someone different than just a beautiful actor person. who isn't like have you know veneers and like laser bleaching that you're like whoa dude that

is that is someone different than just a beautiful actor person yeah it's and it's like subtle but not you know teeth are like jamie loftus uh friend of the show mount zeitmore featured uh face on mount zeitmore has a big thing about like when SNL people like at a certain point, they like come on SNL. And then when Lauren is like, okay, you,

you're going to have a career after this, he makes you get veneers. Yeah. Like you just get your new teeth. I remember when they did that to Amy Poehler. Yeah. It was like, it was like,

I, it was so, cause I, I remember just her being on upright citizens brigade and like, it was like a stage comedian in that show. And then like the glow up the SNL glow up happened. Yeah. Yeah.

But I don't know. I feel like I've known the power of teeth since the first time as a kid, someone like put a black thing over one of their teeth. And I was just like, Hillbilly. Yeah. Where did you come from? What did you do with my friend right and those like fake nasty austin powers teeth at like halloween stores you can get it just feels like it's one of the like small changes or like you know a single item that you can put on that will change your vibe completely even more

than like a fake nose or fake anything yeah yeah there's something about teeth that like just are like i can also just make something so much more funny too yeah yeah yeah the teeth acting shout out to the prosthetic teeth shout out to tooth actors um and uh tooth actor authentication um wow that's right 2002 that's right i went there um what uh what's your underrated oh man i'm just dropped my fidget spinner um let's see underrated fake presents under the tree um because i'm tempted by this we are not going to be in town for christmas i haven't i have not seen my family in japan since before the pandemic began and i've had family members pass away during that time and because of the nature of the immigration policy like i was just difficult to go and now i have the guy's child like there's just so much

like we got we got to fucking go um and so since we're not gonna be here like we definitely have a tree up because i just like you know for every fucking day i can milk the christmas vibes i'm going to um so right now the tree is up just as pure vibes um but i like as a kid i've said this before my house was like unorthodox so it wasn't as festive as it could be So like as an adult I'm like way more Into that shit now And we just basically wrapped a bunch of random Shit so the tree looked like It was like in a home where

A family loved each other And bought the perfect gifts But really it's like diapers It's other shit That like we just we're not opening yet Another one is a fucking shoe box i'm like yeah he put a bow on that shit and then now the vision it's just so weird like i honestly don't give a fuck about christmas like i haven't cared about christmas

gifts since i was probably like 13 you know what i mean right um and now like it's just the mere visual of quote unquote gifts is just does a lot energetically that I wasn't quite rating properly because Hermadacy was like, dude, this shit is looking sad. We could just even put one box and then we were like, fuck it, let's put more. Let's wrap that. Let's wrap this. Let's wrap this.

It feels our tree runneth over with fake shit. You can still open it. I feel like the guy's child's young enough that that would still be exciting yeah and it wouldn't he wouldn't care yeah he'd be like what is this uh this is a fucking old shoe doc martin's shoe box that's busted as hell yeah he doesn't care he's like i feel like if we tried to pull that shit it would be oh you can't do that yeah that would be psychological warfare on kids who

understand christmas and presents and things like that for right now for the mere vig for the vigies perfect perfect um yeah yeah i don't feel i i love the idea i had the thought earlier right maybe if it was just like really clear what it was like it was just like that that's clearly a banana or or it's just so light you know what i mean like that's the thing kids do like i remember as a kid being like a mall or something or a hotel lobby where there and like yo i remember being a dumb my mom took the fuck away from there and i would like lift it to be like what's in here for ghostbusters car yeah or whatever and then i was like what the fuck is this and my mom was like for decorations like that's bullshit yeah um so yeah i mean i think if you know you get less upset

for sure if you know you know um all right my overrated staying in the holiday theme. Yeah. Um, I generally, I use the daily zeitgeist as a, as a chance, as an opportunity to vent on the Christmas cards that, uh, we're getting from friends and family. Um, and you know, there, there are some great ones that I've gotten. My favorites that I've gotten are people just going through their phone and being like, here are like 10 good pictures of our family or like of my kids doing things that they like, doing things that, you know, tell you a little bit about them. Right. They're like, oh, they're in ballet.

This one's on rollerblading. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is what they were for halloween right you know where so like my overrated is christmas cards that are like a professional photo of your family like posed in a field or like on a couch or like in a photo studio like what about on a beach with white linen shirt and blue jeans i mean and but there's no i'm guilty of this there's no footsteps

in the sand there's no footsteps in the the sand because Jesus was carrying your entire family on his shoulders. Because Jesus is strong as fuck. Swole. But he just dropped you there. Jesus can fly. Yeah, no, we've done like the, and we've gotten some great pictures out of like a beach sesh. Now we've done like the, and we've gotten some great pictures out of like a beach sesh,

but I just feel like the, in seeing other people's pictures and like, you know, really evaluating them. Um, you know, I send everybody detailed feedback on their Christmas cards. Um, you don't have to mark them up with red Sharpie.

It's a little fucking extreme notes. Yeah. Uh, what is this? Do you X out my kid's face? I'm supposed to believe that's a little fucking extreme notes yeah uh what is this do you x out my kid's face i'm supposed to believe that's a smile um but i don't yeah we're all constantly taking pictures this is like the one justification for all the pictures that were you know i've seen you guys out there your phones are constantly out taking pictures of your family like right you know you use that um that's and

i'm sure i'm giving myself a pep talk here because we didn't do a professional uh photograph sesh and you can already feel the judgment of the can already feel it they're like wow so so jack's having a hard time huh you see this card it's not even in a photo studio so last minute you think it's because we started off right because photography wasn't accessible to everyone like back yeah so the photo studio was quite literally the place you had to go to get anything like that unless you had like a photography nerd and like the family or whatever and now since it's so ubiquitous the emphasis like it's definitely different it's like yeah i'd rather see something candid than i would than like we all posed in these sweaters at this place i don't even get

to see what your kid would dress like if they could dress themselves you know like because so i don't know like at a certain age like obviously you know when your kids are babies they can't dress themselves go nuts but yeah the one portrait Christmas card that I have in my memory that I'm like, they nailed that one. It was like a very dour Christmas portrait. Like they were like outside, but they looked, they had the expressions of the people from the like early advent of photography. You know how like nobody smiled and everybody... You had to be still. You had to just freeze.

That was a lot of fun. But yeah, for general, if you're going to do just like everybody smiling and matching outfits, then at least give me some search histories of every family member. Or allow one flare item per person.

Yeah. You know, like everyone, because like I remember as a kid, one of the early family photos we took, like I was so adamant about wearing this Ninja Turtles headband I had. Yeah. And having my hockey stick in the photo. Yeah. And it was like a big fight. My mom's like, you need to wear this sweater. And I was like,

this is, this is, this is me. Like I was like six, like putting my fucking foot down. And then, so the photos, like my parents and then me with this Ninja turtle headband and a fucking

hockey stick. And I'm like, that at least gave people something. They're like, this motherfucker likes Ninja turtles and hockey stick. That's right. Yeah. Let it happen.

Let the humanity shine through. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Let it happen. Let the humanity shine through. Yes. Yes. Good message to us all. What, what is something you think is overrated? A couple of things. First is just,

I, we talked, I think I, you mentioned this last week, you know, new apps, right? I,

I'm the guy who has all the app invites that I'll never use. And every couple of couple months like someone i know that's like tech savvy or is in that world will be like oh you should check out this new app like it's cool it's like it's like you should check it out um and i'll like look at it but every time like 99.9 of my experiences with new apps follow this narrative arc which is this step one oh cool a new app oh it's like name any app but less shitty cool yeah step two i'm using it oh okay this is kind of cool i can see myself using it step three i've forgotten about it for fucking four months i'm getting and i'm like what the fuck are these notifications i downloaded this shit yeah um and that's how i feel every time and i just started like i was using this app called

laps that everyone was like kind of sharing around it's like the idea is interesting like on its surface that will get you to sign up because it's like a disposable camera you can't whatever you take will be posted it's not like instagram it's like and you won't be able to see what the result is of the picture you took until it develops quote unquote and then you can kind of decide so i'm like i like that they take out like the ability to like really be like set up your shot and it's like it is what it is but then after a while i'm like i just don't care you know it's a lot of work yeah like i could i could apply that philosophy to instagram but maybe i don't need it's a lot of work I could apply that philosophy to Instagram but maybe I don't need the app to do it so it's just like you know

I think it's just not hitting the same at all and even the shiniest new apps are just tweaks on ubiquitous existing apps or platforms so I think the other thing is I don't think I know what I want out of an app anymore or we've just hit peak app.

Like I have what I need to take pictures. I have what I need to share them. I have what I need to share music or words or whatever. So that's, that's got me down. The other thing I just want to say, the movie, the family switch on Netflix with Jennifer Garner and Ed Helms,

it's like freaky Friday, but like a family of four, all body switches. And then a baby switches with a dog. What? Yeah, it's fucking, it's a mess. It's an absolute, it's bad. So dad switch with son, mom switch with daughter.

And infant switches with like terrier. Dog. Yeah. Interesting. And it's freaky because there's like scenes where like a fucking baby is like flying around like a quadruped. And I'm like, yo, that motherfucker looked like a demon. Like, there's nothing cute

about seeing a fucking like a fucking ten month old fly across the room running on all fours. Yeah. There's just something very disconcerting. Um, and then also, characters didn't really... They didn't give the characters anywhere to go. They didn't get them anywhere to go.

When the son was already very mature, the switch with Ed Helms doesn't quite play right because it just seems like Ed Helms playing Ed Helms. Right. Jennifer Garner got a little bit a better role because

she was having to be like this teen, like acting like a teen and like this business setting. But like Ed Helm, the son in the thing was just too emotionally mature that it just, there wasn't a contrast. Right. Like what if big happened, but like the kid was really boring.

Yeah. And he was like really into the stock market. So he seamlessly blended into his job at an investment bank. Like, like that would get rid of all the conflict and it would be a better movie right yeah yeah or it's the point where like why did y'all switch everybody like you could have just done another freaky friday and just had it be jennifer garner and the daughter but yeah then the family switch um yeah yeah apps my favorite app innovation is like i found a an app that allows me to enter like use my printer

like that's that's all i'm looking for that's not even an app that's like yeah it's just an app on my phone that like allows me to use that shit well it's called kinkos sick ass app sick but yeah i feel like apps you know email was useful and then it got ruined by just like spam bullshit like just being flooded and you know phones the text like all everything like was like had its moment where it was useful and then it got just flooded out by capitalism but apps i feel like just started from jump street was just like and we're gonna flood the zone with bullshit oh yeah yeah you're just gonna not be able to use the early days were great when it was literally just like ham horn ham horn yeah yeah still classic what'd it do

watch this ham that's what it does yeah any questions i i actually rediscovered Hamhorn recently, and they lost the rights to the 30 Rock. Yeah. And now it's just some guy thing. Ham. Yeah, yeah. I think that's what it was. You don't think they lapsed? Yeah, I think that deal sunsetted, and they had to move on. I think someone was like,

uh, here's a cease and desist. You don't own that sound. Ham. Yeah. Soundboard soundboard like an app that does soundboard great um shazam great app uh that's all i need basically yeah and yeah like there's nothing i think the other one might be like the apps i use to do like our face changing photos for oh yeah that one's a that one is probably the most fun i've had with an app recently because there's ones i don't even show y'all on the internet that i'll just be like look at this and i'll share it with people and then i'm like don't post that don't

post that don't post that but that's a paid app which highlights the other weird thing about apps is that i will not spend money yeah it could be $2 in the most useful fucking app of all time, and I'm just like, no. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, it's a paid app? Go fuck yourselves. Yeah, with this, I just got so insanely jealous

of someone posting, like, really good photo tweaks that I was like, bro, watch me fucking just burn this thing down. Give me access to that. And I'm like, bro, watch me fucking just burn this thing down. Give me access to that. And I'm like, how much is it? Now, my aversion to paying money for apps makes no sense. Like, the version that I end up using is, like, has, like, ads all over it. Right. For, like, the same weird games.

Right. And it's so unusable. It actually is taking years off of your life. Exactly. I actually, yeah, it might have been worth the four bucks. Yeah. Instead, just exchange all of my credit card information to them so they can track all my purchases.

Yeah, exactly. All right. Let's take a quick break, and we'll come back and talk George Santos, another person who I gave all my credit card information to. Oh, boy. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar.

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Well, I'm just saying, first of all, I'm not even sure that that guy was even George Santos. So it just felt like a very low energy scam from the beginning. So I have a lot more questions than answers. Yeah. Jack, it's George. And I just assumed it was George Santos. And he was like, we need your help.

Dude, that sounds like one of those fucking DNC fundraising texts. Yeah, exactly. Oh my God. There's one that was like, you're the only person who hasn't signed up for your joe byron subscription supporter package and also this is all directed at like my mom who uses my phone she gives my phone number out the thing she doesn't want to interact with so shout out to god um on that one but yeah like it was just standard he just got expelled for the same shit that he yeah has been on the verge of getting expelled for yeah yeah i that he yeah has been on the verge of getting

expelled for yeah yeah i mean he's just out he's now just like trying to say like i'll like i'll bring other people down or whatever it's just it's a snooze fest he was going to be my overrated i'm just like for how bad his lies were there's nothing there was nothing good about someone who is such a just on its face pathological liar being in there like who's like my mom died in 9-11 okay maybe she did it i was in hannah montana okay maybe i wasn't right just saying shit like that all the time it's just funny from the pure perspective of like how did this fool get up in there like that but then when you just you know you square that with everything that's happening and like what we need in a functional government

i'm like just please like whatever fucking fine yeah bye bye bye um and i think now he's telling people he's like he's already um making recommendations for who should replace him so okay is that how it works they're gonna let him decide who replaces him no no no he's just disgraced no no yeah you know like because it's it's gonna be like uh probably a special election uh yeah but he's just like he's already been like i like this guy who's a former cop you're like of course you do of course you do yeah good uh one good piece of news in the world, George Santos is that, uh, Z-Way was like, that would be my dream interview.

And he was like, Z-Way, let's do it. Oh God. So if that actually happens, I mean, he seems like a man of his word. It seems like somebody who you can trust when he does,

he's going to do something. It will be, that is going to, I see where Z-Way wants that challenge because she's like oh this dude does not live on the same plane of reality as the rest of us and i'm right maybe i can knock him off the railing for a second and see a bit of discomfort but knowing him i feel like i don't know i don't know i'm i am you know what z way yes give us give us that battle yes please um all right we have our oxford word of the year and it is as always like cool and just evidence the people who work for

dictionaries are young and uh connected to the world and not trying too hard it is of course riz yep they're saying ever since tom holland uh said it in an interview he's like i have no riz uh he's like i have negative riz or something like that yeah the search uh like traffic just skyrocketed people like what is this riz exactly um and yeah obviously it's short for charisma as they say the word by gen z and its younger counterpart gen alpha uh it said it beat out other slang favorites including swifty situationship um and prompt which feels you know appropriate in the world of ai chat bots and shit and you know generative ai that's you know that's a phrase for a long time i know but

it's because it's it's because it's been used so much more because of ai now about like how to properly prompt feels like they were looking for some way to loop in ai and were like uh i don't know yeah failed they failed to come up with one um their definition situationship also feels like kind of old to me but then again so does riz and maybe that's just because i'm so young and like yeah the cutting edge of using riz uh having riz all of it you know yeah so dude your lingo so tubuloso man like fucking smack is so fresh exactly so your snack is so fresh the i like though again how it's still oxford and they still need to give people like if even if you heard this and you don't know what i'm talking

about charisma riz quote pertaining to someone's ability to attract another person through style charm or attractiveness this term is from the middle part of the word charisma, which is an unusual word formation pattern. Other examples include fridge or flu or influenza. So there it is. Yeah. That just made me think the word flu is actually like a cool slang word

for the first time in my life. Like, yeah, caught that flu, huh? Hell yeah, dude. Damn, i didn't realize that whoever coined flu was so rizzed out um other words that got considered were beige flag yeah is that just like it's a white flag but kind of off no no you can get you can get there come on pappy what do you think red flag but like not quite scary and oh red flag for white people red flag thrown up by but like no it's like a thing caucasians something that is like catches your eye or like a weird quirk but not quite like you know but yeah like a non-starter yeah yeah it's

just kind of like yeah it's like i don't know yeah it's a beige flag like they yeah they whenever like every thursday night they watch two episodes of the office and say all the words along with the episode um that's fine that's fine yeah all right you might put that in the pink flag category. Okay. Hot pink bordering on red. Keat dome de-influencing parasocial. Yeah. Keat dome is a little grim. Yeah.

But we know where that's from. And then de-influencing. I feel like I heard that more last year than this year. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look. Oxford's not on the cutting edge. They're not as on the cutting edge like they're not as on the cutting edge and on the pulse of the zeitgeist as i want the oxford english dictionary

to be yep so riz you got it you got the crown um i've you know maybe hey y'all y'all use it this holiday season and see how you see how it goes with your elderly relatives. And your younger ones who are like, are you okay, fool? But when it's just a word that is another, short for another word, I guess it does have different connotations. I'll approve Riz.

You're saying that's what you're saying? Yeah. Miriam Webster, is that who the other one is? It's always funny when like, You're saying that's been approved? Yeah. Merriam-Webster? Is that who the other one is? It's always funny when, like, it's just like, how do you let someone beat you? How is this not an arms race where the word of the year is, like, released in July?

I know. Yeah. Oh, I think they already put out their word of the year. Oh, and it just wasn't good enough? Yeah, dude. Ah, that's such wasn't good enough? Yeah, dude. That's such a bummer. Authentic was their word of the year. Oh, come on.

Miriam. See, Miriam. They're doing the thing where they're like, well, this is the word they searched the most for. And it's obviously related to the proliferation of AI celebrity culture identity. And you're like, oh. You need the social media team, guys. It said in their list, it's authentic plus Riz deepfake coronation. So theirs is almost going off like search traffic

rather than trying to read culture. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It'd be like, these are new things that everyone is saying. So, hey, everyone's got their own philosophy with this. Coronation. Yeah, that's new. I don't think those existed prior to this year. Sorry for the cutting sarcasm, Merriam-Webster.

Beyonce is number one of the box office uh the biggest concert film since that other concert film that came out a few weeks ago uh but renaissance a film by beyonce was uh number one and brought in 21 million domestically 21 uh 21 21 uh which is huge for the notoriously sluggish weekend after thanksgiving i hadn't realized this but the current record holder belongs to tom cruise's the last samurai oh which is like bordering on a satire about white savior is like it's the most just white yeah but then jack he became the samurai dude right like the bones are showing all the way through on this one it's like wait what are you guys doing like it seems like you know that this is a white savior thing but then you're still doing

it anyways that one is still the box office holder not not adjusted for inflation. It made $24.3 million. Holy shit. So I don't know why they dropped this Beyonce film on a notoriously sluggish weekend. Yeah. Like might, I guess, like it kind of looks like an art film. Like it's very,

it looks like more challenging than the taylor swift thing yeah than a thing that you can just like stand at the front of the theater and like take selfie videos while you spin in a circle screaming but it's also like i don't know they're they're just those times when my brain reflexively goes back to that sony email leak where they were talking about denzel and they're like he just can't open a picture uh so we can't let him be have his own action franchise with the equalizer that movie's not going to make any money is that when they said black doesn't travel or something like that that was yeah they were like referencing that or was that towards

international things right is that what it was yeah they were saying that he he won't get any traction internationally because black doesn't travel and well also being guys denzel is my favorite act he's my favorite actor i'm just saying so i don't know it's just it's just interesting like that all the box office prognostication prior to the Taylor Swift thing was like, she might break the box office and we'll have to just get a new one. This might be the only thing that we show in theaters from now on.

For the rest of our lives. Which it was massively successful. But with Beyonce, it's like, here, let's dump it on the weekend where nobody goes to the movies. Yeah, of all the things, that is curious, for sure. And I wonder if that's tax shit, too. It's like, you'll get it out before the end of the year type shit. I don't know what the calculus is there.

I don't know what the calculus is there, but yeah, I think on some level, it's probably that all the people were just, you know, frothing at the mouth to see how much money the Taylor Swift thing could make. So that was the only thing people were thinking about. Like, cause I feel like I hadn't actually,

it's funny when it came out, no one had actually reviewed what the film was actually like aside from everyone being like, yo man, people are losing it in the fucking theaters. And I think just maybe because of that, it's the perceptions are completely different but yeah um it's hey but it's still i don't beat out the other movies but yeah no it did well for sure like for a concert film if the taylor swift one hadn't come out people would be like this is crazy like new ground for uh

concert movie box office at this time of year, but it's getting great reviews. I mean, there, there's definitely a possibility that they put it out at this time because they want to submit it for Oscar consideration. Um, but the other thing from the BO over the weekend is that, uh,

third place went to Godzilla minus one, which is the latest Toho godzilla movie uh supposed to be fantastic and then in sixth place was an indian action movie animal um which did near record business for a bollywood film wow and then at the same time disney announced that they won't even be reporting the box office take of the Marvels going forward. It's like, it's still going to be in theaters, but they're like,

we're just actually like, we stopped keeping score guys. So like, stop asking us. Okay. We're just, that is, that's like,

that's like Ray J and speedy telling them to break the sunglasses. I don't care. I don't break them. Break them. Snap. I don't care. I don't care. Like what? Why are you just being like, we're I don't care. I don't care. Like what?

Why are you like, we're not even reporting it. Cause we don't even care. I've never heard of that. Maybe I'm just not paying close enough attention to like the bottom of the box office, but that is wild. Um,

but I don't know. This does. I feel like we're going to see a new era where international movies are able to like really pull in more and more money as people like get exposed to international content like on streaming platforms more and more like they'll they'll just be more willing to go see stuff and recognize that international movies are as good as American films. Well,

I mean, yeah. And just look at the state of things, right? Like the Marvel, the MCU was like guaranteed fucking money printing. Yeah. And now we're at the point of like,

I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't even know them. Yeah. And so of course, like, I think the pendulum is definitely beginning to swing the other direction

because the quality coming out of the u.s film industry is just it's it's not it's just not what it used to be and i think people sincerely just want to see something fucking different yeah yeah yeah and yeah to your point too like all these international shows and movies we've been watching on streaming over the last couple years has definitely like changed the idea of like i can't read subtitles when i watch something yeah like yeah yeah no subtitles are worth it guys yeah and i think everybody knows it even helps the kids with their language comprehension okay that's right all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll be back with a couple more stories We'll be right back. Hello, everyone.

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And we're back. And the United Auto Workers have announced that they have joined the call for a ceasefire in Israel and Palestine in a statement made outside the White House where activists are on a hunger strike. Um, UAW representing 400,000 workers is now the largest union to have called for a ceasefire.

Um, but it's joining other unions, including the American postal workers union, the Chicago teachers union. Um, I think a couple others, but yeah, but I mean, the California nurses association Association, I think, was also one of them. Yeah.

But yeah, the statement highlighted that the UAW is constantly stood for justice across the globe. But I don't know. I'm wondering, there's a big yawning gap between what it seems like the public opinion on this conflict is and just generally has like there's been a yawning gap between you know people's desire for peace and what the government is willing to like the government just generally it's like a rule of thumb that the government doesn't take into account public policy when it comes to foreign policy seldom seldom um or public public opinion when it comes

to foreign policy so uh this seems like i don't know a way to actually affect the outcome to like just refuse to make the shit in the first place that is being used especially as they're like even internally like trying to reflect on what their relationship as a body of workers could be to this i think that's really interesting also um yeah you know because now or they're like they said that we are going to be looking at this like with their ieb like their you know their highest body or governing body within uh the union so highest body or governing body within uh the union so yeah i mean it's it it's every day we're seeing little things just you know move slightly in the right direction or then completely backwards in other ways so it's i don't know it's it's it's very it's been a very exhausting time like

watching all of this and then just watching how what the fallout is or just like what the mccarthyite type reaction would be i'm curious to see what happens like because they just announced this a few days ago if there's going to be some major pr campaign or pushing back against them doing this or suddenly they're going to say like all cars are nazis or something like that i'm not sure but yeah um it can all cars are nazis unfortunately that is uh that is the position of the new york times but um yeah the announcement is a little like vague too like it didn't and i think in in this day and age because something like calling for a ceasefire can is is treated like such a

loaded thing yeah that they were definitely like yeah for both sides bad both sides it's bad but also please stop the killing of the and let's stop the siege and the killing of these other innocent people and then that's what we're saying that's our piece right and finally kiss performed their final show went and then went full black mirror on all of our asses and we're like that's it for kiss in the physical form but we are now uh we have now digitized ourselves into uh meta avatars who you will be able to see rocking out um so they it was like a weird first of all like the way they announced that they were getting like retiring was they said like we're doing it out of self-respect oh right we're retiring out of self-respect but watch us exploit our like this is one last time

we respect ourselves not y'all no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no but yeah so on saturday night the end of the road tour uh wrapped up at madison square garden with what was billed as the final kiss concert um and this this actually made its way onto the little amazon echo in our kitchen and so there's a picture of kiss and my children were intrigued they're like who is that they're like they're bad guys yeah they're basically but it's like if there was a rock band in a world like that i feel like they exist in the saturday morning cartoon universe yeah i mean they didn't they quite literally have a saturday morning cartoon yeah but like that is always what they were and like should have been is like they just don't make sense in any other on any

other context yeah like maybe they're like a rock band in like the world of wwe also you know what i mean like this sort of fictional universe of just weird yeah i don't know this whole this whole story just makes no sense to me on one level. And then like all the sense, we'll get to the good part, dude. Yeah. So the final encore of the night was performed by the band's brand new digital avatars,

basically PS4 esque fantasy versions of the group. Not even PS5, PS4. Like that's what we're looking at. Um, they sang God gave rock and roll to you after man, every time, like, I'm not a Kiss fan at all, so I don't know any of the songs, and, like, every time it just feels like it was generated in, like, a fucking auto-Kiss song generator.

God Gave Rock and Roll to You. To You. But, yeah, Black Mirror-ified Paulley declared that the fans love had made the band immortal um and then there's a graphic advertising kisses new era along with a qr code oh yeah and i'm sure everyone in that audience knew exactly what to do when that qr code came up okay i don't think i've ever done a qr code from like a great distance is that does that work you do yeah i guess it's zoom in probably giant yeah um but it is kind of funny like i've tried to zoom in from far but then at that like

focal length any bit of movement from like your wrist yeah fuck it's i can't get it to fucking scan because i'm 20 feet away or 50 feet away, whatever. The digital avatars were created by a company called Pop House Entertainment who also made the digital version of ABBA, a thing that I didn't know had happened because I am under

the age of 60. They apparently donned mocap suits to create a 90 minute concert starring de-aged CGI versions of themselves. And that shit pulls in $2 million a week. I don't know where, like,

is that, is that happening in Vegas? What do you mean? Like they, so they made a concert film of ABBA and like so the thing that i don't understand they're mo-capping them as old people yeah and then using the motions of old people it's like it's the same thing as um the irishman where they put they like put all this digital work into de-aging Robert De Niro's face. But then he like gets in a fight and like,

he can like barely, barely walk. You could tell you got like a stiff back as he moves. Yeah. Yeah. And like, so that is that the, is that what's happening here?

Is there just like taking this band and making them the young versions of themselves, but they still move like the elderly? I guess? I don't know. I'm just trying to watch now. I just need to see what this looks like. Because, yeah,

mo-cap only does so much. What? They look like they're um the choreography is not as dynamic okay right yeah they're performing in front of a crowd but like it there's these lights that are like shooting back and forth that look like search lights like Yeah. Search lights from hell. They're probably meant to distract you from how bad it is on stage. I think that was, that looked pretty cool. If we shoot fake guns at people,

maybe they won't notice. Yeah. If we just set off indoor fireworks, maybe they won't notice that the people on stage aren't moving around very much you know i guess like and but here's the thing like as much as i'll be like ah boo or whatever instead of i've heard of ah buh but ah boo boo yes i'm just thinking though too of like

what band i would see like this you know what would if OutKast did this in 20 years would I how would I be like oh shit do the mocap now or use like an actual concert I don't want to see

the thing that's important to me is not that your face looks like it used to. It's that you have the energy of the music that you made. That's true. That's true. Okay. Yeah. I'm trying to even figure out where is this Abba Voyage?

Where is it? In London, I think. Oh, London. Yeah. Yeah. Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park, London. it's one of those things i was like what is this venue that they just have like empty to shoot lasers through the olympics it's from the olympics man that's what the olympics gives us is just you know yards and miles of fucking

unused infrastructure unused infrastructure that then gets turned into something like this. A digital ghost seance? The fuck? Man, can't wait for what turns into our infrastructure after the LA Olympics. Oh my god. There's gonna be so

many cool shows like this, man. There's gonna be so many Halloween stores. We so fucking lit. Best Halloween stores. Year so fucking live. Best Halloween stores. Year round. Bubble world. Just 50. 50 bubble worlds.

Expansion of 50 bubble world. 100%. This does feel like it's the future though. Like that every, you're going to quote unquote, be able to go see the Beatles perform like a concert from you know and then it'll just be

as the future becomes bleaker and bleaker for people I think the only profitable direction is to go backwards to be like dude fuck right now y'all remember 96 yeah the Atlanta Olympic bomber well we got that whole

experience you could be in the olympic park in 96 people like yeah what an outcast was the atlanta olympic bomber and they came they come through wow and they dropped bombs over baghdad andre's killing it he's killing it as richard jewel, yeah, but I just feel, there's a, I read an article about the sphere in Vegas and how, like, the goal of that is total immersion. And just, like, that that's the thing that now everyone's like, that's what people need. They need total immersion. They need, like, a VR headset or they need to like be inside uh you know an arena that doesn't have any corners that will remind them that they're in a physical space and not just inside like a liminal reality inside their own mind but then you know there there are

people next to you who smell bad so yeah it's yeah look we're we're just basically we're in the prequel to wally right now yeah yeah you know that's what it is yeah wally before they leave earth that's the part we get to see we're already kind of vaguely on our scooters kind of but kind of better like i i like this more than we'll we'll get a little you know some cool stuff to go hang out at before we're all just moving on our scooters exactly in vegas in a temperature controlled fucking warehouse yeah they don't need to build the spaceship they just like turn vegas into that into that world yeah yeah um all right well great yeah so i think that sounds good uh i approve um i approve kiss in their digital avatar form for some reason they look way worse like more cartoonish and

the images that i've seen but that it's it's wild that it's made by the same people i have to imagine that the kiss you know the actual people who are in kiss were like yeah i'm gonna need a six pack on this one man oh right right right they're like dude have you seen a little more i've been kind of working on my shoulders i feel like you can give me a little more definition up there how old are you 76 76. Shit. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday, December 4th. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.

Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. No. And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Bye. Can Kay trust her sister? or is history repeating itself?

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