The Daily Zeitgeist - The WeekTrend Update 12/11: Alex Jones, US Veto, Organized Shoplifting, Krispy Kreme, Golden Globes

Episode Date: December 11, 2023

In this edition of The WeekTrend Update, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, the return of Alex Jones to Twitter, the US vetoing a ceasefire in Gaza, "organized shoplifting" not actually being a thing, Krispy Kreme invading France, and the Golden Globe nominations! WATCH: Mitchell and Webb: "Are we the baddies?"See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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She's like oh yeah That part was funny he was taking a poo But he could have died on a Bomb They all kind of run together They all run together for me Alright well my name is jack o'brien that's miles gray yeah and this is the episode where we tell you what happened over the

weekend both news-wise and with us and in our lives and in our lives and we like to open things up by telling you a couple things we think are uh overrated and then something we think is underrated um miles you want to kick us off with yeah over over i'm gonna say and this isn't like nothing new but just giving you an example of what i was interacting with over the weekend uh nostalgia like nostalgic marketing marketing our nostalgia commodifying our nostalgia i fucking hate how powerful it is um what they get you with I fucking hate how powerful it is. What they get you with.

Just using memories from our youth to sell us more shit. And while I am certainly someone that is a nostalgia freak, there are times where it hits me in this weird way, like it's the ring of power or some shit. Where I'm like, yeah, fucking lean into this shit. And other times I'm like, are you just dissatisfied with your life in the present and i'm like what the fuck was that no yeah i need this fucking old wu-tang poster that i had when i was 14 and i will not hang up but i will have it yeah um i was gonna be my question like do you actually like put it up this is right yeah exactly sometimes you you buy shit to just for the fucking weird consumer high um but you know like again like i love i love all things from the past i will never shit on

someone's love for yesteryear but when it when it gets commodified that's when it's a weird moment okay por ejemplo for example they are re they've re-released one of my favorite toys from childhood the playmates manufactured teenage mutant ninja turtles action figures okay i spent fucking hours playing with these little fuckers okay in the bathtub in my fucking house pulling out the couch cushions making like big buildings i would like knock over with the fucking you know with my turtle bus and shit and you know i was like this seems like really cool and the thought of being being reunited with these little plastic fuckers for 50 seems like a no-brainer but then there's like this cynicism again that i feel like i'm like am i buying this shit because i'm a collector and this is meaningful to my collection or is this

just a way to reconnect with a time in my life that was simpler and innocent and that's something that feels like a refuge in adulthood um so yeah i think both of those are equally valid though of course but the thing is i don't collect ninja turtle shit right you know what i mean so like i'm that's where i'm like i ain't buying it because i collect this shit i'm buying it i think just because i'm like i want to have that again and then when i get it inevitably 10 minutes will pass i'm like why the fuck did i buy these little plastic fuckers yeah so like the that's where like you kind of i find a little bit of a philosophical um quagmire not even that's not even philosophical it's really just trying to figure out why the fuck i want the thing and if it's truly because i really do or

again because it's like just that consumerist trap that says true freedom comes when someone hands you a bag and asks if you want the receipt in it yeah it's especially like the if you get the thing and then don't ever use it or look at it i bought i bought that um when we were at nba con i bought that outcast atlanta hawks jersey you were you were you were tortured when you bought it though too i know i was like i don't think i'm gonna wear this am i gonna wear this i'm probably to wear this Am I going to wear this? I haven't worn a basketball jersey in 20 years But I love outcasts But the feeling of buying it

And carrying it around for a little while Was fun But yeah then it just kind of sits in my closet Well see that's why I like my Wu-Tang My New York Knicks jersey Becomes like art on my rack of jerseys. And I'm gonna rock it when I go to Japan because finally it'll be like

real winter shit. I could wear it fucking underneath my bubble jacket. Exactly. Wear it over your bubble jacket. Dude, it looks so tight. Yeah, layer it. My overrated is uh menthol and things that aren't cigarettes um i've got i've got two products in my shower that make my face just like slightly burn a little

bit like make my head and the parts around my eyes feel like face wash like that the inside of my mouth when i've got an altoid in you know it's like bernie cool yeah just like a little burn tingle um one is a head and shoulder shampoo which i tried to look it up uh first of all yet yes uh i i know you're you're shocked right that i need head and shoulders but you wear black all the time. I know. What's my secret? Exactly. Miles, exactly. That's right. The first plot twist that I knew was that head and shoulders.

But you don't have dandruff. Exactly. Damn. That was Kaiser Soze all along. But, yeah, I don't know. We got it at uh tj max um and i don't i can't find this specific type of thing with tj max yeah like i i think it was like they were just they threw it out there like one bottle of shampoo as a as a weather balloon to see how how it reacted is it

is it that they use tj maxx as the weather balloon site or is it last chance saloon last chance alone yeah it's definitely last chance yeah yeah nobody's fucking with this which is funny that's why it's always a trap i remember my mom bought like a soap or something there and she was fucking gonna like you know waste a year of her life searching for it again. I'm like, well, that's the thing at TJ Maxx.

Like, I'm pretty sure that that's it. Like, you know, like half the time it is shit that is discontinued. Yeah. But I think I don't have, I didn't like take a picture of my shampoo bottle for this episode today,

but in, I'm pretty sure it's called like negative five degrees Celsius or something like that. And it has like a block of ice on the thing and it just yeah it just makes my eyes feel like something is happening to them like the my mucus membranes on my head you know i'm not not washing my face with shampoo but the shit just like kind of leaks down right right right and then the other one i think the shampoo made me realize that a face wash that i have has the same thing just like a little bit more subtle and i looked at the ingredients list and menthol is right in there on both of them and um again i

i feel like there's a lot of people who are probably into this because of just how common it is on your pharmacy shelves. And maybe it's part of my anti-peppermint bias. And I totally respect everybody's right to like peppermint. I just feel like it might be overrepresented. But based on some feedback I've gotten, maybe I'm wrong. Peppermint twitter came for your ass yes peppermint twitter was all up in my ass and it tingled it tingled um no but it seems like the goal is to be like see it's working right that's how you know it's

cleaning your scalp is because your scalp feels like you know it had a slight burn like you're recovering from a slight burn um well i don't know i feel like the bubbles is how i know it's working that's yeah what am i that i don't have dandruff yeah i don't have black no matter what i don't yeah i my brain is just like bubbles. That's toothpaste, face soap, hand soap, everything. Gotta have bubbles. If it's got bubbles, I'm in. That means I'm clean. I don't need the smoke and mirrors to make me feel like I'm having the dirt and oil gently singed off my body.

Yeah, it's a slippery slope. They're like these eye drops that i would get from japan that are mentholated oh really oh yeah that seems dude the commercial okay the commercial was like a office worker dude at his desk all day just blue light fucking hammering his eyeballs and shit and then he'd like get on the train and it's like bright bright fluorescent lights he gets home it's tv these lights and they're like they're saying like yo you're like you got to give your eye like a little bit of a refresher and he puts this shit on and like when it hits like ice cubes explode like as if the splash from the eye drops hitting his eyes like ice yeah and the whole thing's like

like the whole commercial is like so fucking sensational where he's like i got a new eye and i would always bring that back for all the stoners and be like yo try this eye drop and they'll be like what the fuck everybody thought it was mason shit and then afterwards like yo it does feel like different but it cleans you out yeah exactly but is it better i have no idea i really do think it's it's just that feeling that you go through and it's like dude just that little bit of freshness weed like that this would be the sort of thing that i would have enjoyed like while high you know like maybe like a little bit like pingley i have face wash yeah look i have face wash that does

that and i don't appreciate it okay Okay. Like, it's just weird. Like, as I'm doing it, I'm like, I just want it to feel clean. Not like, like, I don't need to feel any others. There's no sensation of clean aside from, like, feeling like, okay, it's not oily or whatever. I know I'm clean because my face dries out. And that's my version of clean. I have, like, wrinkles. You can see the wrinkles forming

when i smile i want to see a bunch of dead skin crack you can hear my face when i smile and that's how you know my face is clean so dry also looking in the reddit thread where somebody complained about this uh inevitably somebody was like this is just the younger generation being too soft um but i just i just want to say i like a little bit of pain with my bathroom routine i take uh you know i do flossing and uh take my shit to the torture chamber with flossing yeah you floss in a way your dentist actually has been like reprimanding, right? Yeah, like, you need to chill the fuck out, man. He's like, ah, you're just soft. The younger generation.

He's like, I'm 67. This is the first time we've actually had to recommend a dental patient to the therapist. We have a dental therapist. But you're clearly working through some shit with your flossing. It's just so weird that you chose flossing as the medium for this. It's a thing to just get your shit out. All right. Underrated.

What's something you think is underrated? Underrated. First of all, I will say it again, puppet shows. I saw another puppet show. I saw Puppet Nutcracker. Yeah. I told you I went to a Halloween one. I'm saying there's just something

very pure about puppetry i don't know what it is i think it's like one of these art forms that have existed for like centuries but you i don't know there's something pure about it and i found myself being like oh the one that was like some of the one of the puppeteers was manipulating like a little dog running and i was like oh look at the dog i'm like dude in my mind afterwards i saw her majesty we had the baby i said i'm like what was your favorite puppy mine was the dog and she was like what like dude the dog was so cool the dog was so tight um but the thing that i think is underrated is how easily i can get caught up in reality TV sensationalism. Uh-oh.

I was watching that Squid Game show. Like, sick, bro. You can hear it right now. I'm not doing too great. But I was, like, laid out. And I was like, oh, fuck it. Let me watch the Squid Game show. The first episode, right?

Like, there's all kinds of shit. You're learning all these. The cast, the characters. the first episode, right? Like, there's all kinds of shit. You're learning all these, the cast, the characters. But I have to say,

without the power of the original narrative show behind it, I would really say this would be a boring-ass reality show. Like, it only resonates because it's like they're really trying to go, like, match the original Korean drama. Right.

But the producers know, fuck it, look, reality TV, like, I watch a lot. They know what the fuck they're doing. They know how to squeeze every bit of emotion out of anything and i gotta say that first episode that had the mother and son doing the red light green light challenge and shit was she crossed the line and they were embracing each other i almost started full voice scream crying

because i couldn't believe it and have you seen it did you see the first first episode? No. This isn't really a spoiler. It's partly a spoiler because the show is so long. They're doing Red Light, Green Light and you find out two of the contestants are a mother and son. The son gets across the line. In the beginning, people are getting hit with paintballs and shit to represent being shot. We talked about this in a past episode.

He's waiting for his mom To cross the line And the clock is ticking down And she's older and she's trying to do her best To make it And she makes it And she's so happy And he's like mom you did it

I can't believe I did it And they're jumping up and down And it was so sensationalized The way they made it all slow motion Is she going gonna get fucking murked we don't know or will she enter to the embrace of her son's loving arms um and i was like i was done and you know it like it's like this is us where like they go for like vague life experiences that like hit very broadly and then turn that shit up to 50 and make your emotions explode and so i'm such a mama's boy

so like that moment really had me thinking like what if my mom had to enter a death match so she could win money like and i'm like and then she made it what what if that was us and then i took a second what the fuck is wrong with me right now so but yeah they got me um do they talk about like the thing that we know we got in the original squid game that like why they need the money or is that yeah people talk about it okay yeah a lot of people like from the first couple episodes i saw it's very vague it's like you know for my family no one's like i have like a rare something that only $4.56 million will help. That's the exact amount I need. It's just a lot of like, I mean, like anyone,

it's just like, what couldn't I do to better my life with $4.5 million pre-tax? Also, shout out Red Light Green Light. Good game. I was playing a little Red Light Green Light this weekend with some youngins. Some guys I met in the parking lot. Some dudes, yeah. I was playing a little red light, green light this weekend with some youngins. Some guys I met in the parking lot.

Some dudes, yeah. So underrated for me, being old, I just want to, the degree to which I am not hearing the siren call of the Panera Lemonade. That took another life, P.S.? ps yeah like the fact that i have not like this is normally the type of shit that i would be backing out of my driveway on my way to get before the person finished the phrase like heart exploded you know like heart exploded but i can like almost hear the absence of the voice in my head telling me to go out and get that shit like you know like it's awful quiet in there yeah i don't know it's you know when you

live in the city and you go out to the like beach or country or woods and you can actually like hear the sound of silence oh yeah that's kind of what it's like in my head right now with uh with regards to my my lack of interest in getting like i used to drink the those five hour energy things they they had so those had a ton of caffeine in them i used to drink the like extra strength ones like multiple a day just to like get through the day i don't know it just like yeah it's and i think it was just like anything to not feel like whatever not not feel whatever i was feeling at that moment you know you'd rather have like the overarching feeling just be like heart racing. Yeah, like heart racing down to crash. I don't know. It just feels like when I was young,

I had this misconception that this is as good as it gets, and then it gets worse. And that's true physically, that it gets harder physically. worse and that's true like physically you know that it gets harder uh physically but like mentally you really you'll really learn some tricks uh as you as you get older and you just like learn how to be okay or at least you know i have uh sometimes i've learned to how to sometimes be okay uh without the you know panera charged lemonade uh coursing through my veins yeah telling me to you know well it's yeah like we take all those feelings that are like when you're in your 20s you're like what the fuck is all this shit i'm like feeling right now and then you get old you're like no no this might be wisdom trying to communicate to me yeah yeah

listen to your body listen to your brain a little bit more um but yeah i like there was a time when i was like really i i didn't realize it at the time but so much of like how i felt about like just kind of a hopelessness was based on the idea that like and then you get older and it just sucks like right you know i don't want to get a fucking old yeah horrible um but i don't know it's not bad and in fact like they've done studies i remember we we did this article on um like myths in wellness culture and uh that back at crack and like one of them was that people actually report getting happier as they get older. And that fucking blew my...

I was like, what? No fucking way. In America, too? I'm looking at them, and they're freaking me out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways.

Yeah, give it a chance. Get older. And, you know, you figure some things out. I some things out things get fired in your head i saw like a tweet that was blowing up where someone was like um like it fucks you up like when when you're there's something where something that says like it really fucks you up when you turn 29 and you realize how close you are to 39 and like all these people like oh fuck oh no i'm 39 now and i'm like y'all it's it's not bad it's not bad i'm actually surprised and part of me is like thinking i'm like am i okay because i don't like whatever i thought 39 was supposed to feel like is not that

at all like it's a truly about how you're you know how you look at your life unless you're looking at like at 39 i'm to be decrepit, and I won't be spry anymore, or something like that, I mean, maybe, but if all things are doing okay, just embrace it. You'll be okay.

You'll be okay. If you're in the NBA, and the only thing you care about is how well you perform in the NBA, then yes, I feel you. It's going to get a lot harder and probably worse. In-season tournament MVP MVP LeBron James.

Yeah. Shout out to the Lakers. Yeah, shout out to the Dodgers too. Just sign Shohei Ohtani. Your boy is in heaven. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.

It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar.

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And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season?

Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring, Daniel Thrasher, Peppermint, Morgan J., and more. You got to watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you got to listen.

Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, i'm watching you outside of the window just just you know what listen to the amber and lacy lacy and amber show on will ferrell's big money players network on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back we're back and alex jones is back holy on twitter baby uh how many more how many more stones can they pile on our chest before we fully cave and we gotta leave i mean alex what the fuck what it's just this is wild too this because when he came back everybody started sharing that elon musk tweet about how he would never reinstate him yeah and then here we are uh right back at it because again elon musk i mean not that we should be surprised but it's just like

hell's site every day it's going to be it's like we're closely reaching the full-on dictionary definition of health yeah he uh did elon musk had tweeted um it or i guess wrote in a 2022 blog post he literally referenced his infant son sid's death as one reason why he could never let alex jones back stating my first born child died in my arms. I felt his last heartbeat. I have no mercy for anyone who would use the deaths of children for gain, politics, or fame. Psych. Yeah. I just did in that statement too. Whoops. You'll see that one come back around. It was kind of wild. Yeah. Yeah. He did the Twitter poll. 70% of the people who hang on his every word and still pay attention to what he says and bots voted to bring history's worst

nutraceutical pitch man back. Jones had been subjected to a permanent ban back in 2018. And yeah, now he's saying are we a platform that believes in freedom of speech or are we not adding shah right swing

are these references not cool look at them gonna hurl dude it smells like mung like what yeah are we a platform that believes in freedom of speech or are we not um they in fact we're not we're not yeah they suspended hundreds of palestinian accounts and yeah you know some people like the founder of the anti-gun violence group mom's demand action pointed out pre-speech isn't the same thing as defamation like that's yeah right right right right yeah there's laws in place

yeah there's i mean like alex jones is so radioactive like the fucking guy got banned from pinterest that's why i mean i didn't realize Pinterest had been. Everything about his existence on the internet is radioactive. Like, of course, all the big fucking companies are like, absolutely not. When LinkedIn and Pinterest are also like, no. Yeah. What the fuck? Sorry, we can't do it on Pinterest. Yeah, sorry, not here.

Not here. Your boards are too spicy or whatever fucking Pinterest is. Isn't it a series of boards? Yeah. Well, I mean, just, yeah, you can sort of aggregate a bunch of little bits of media pictures. Your aggregation is too. I use it just to look at bubble jackets in the summer and just long for the winter's

embrace. But yeah, Twitter, I mean, somehow Twitter was the last one to not fucking, to take action. Yeah. I remember that like back in the day that you know he had been he had already been banned by youtube facebook apple spotify linkedin pinterest for violating various rules against harassment and hate speech and then twitter was like the last holdout they'd been like dragging their feet on banning him and then eventually did and now and now he's back and all of it is never done like in the actual interest of like what the

experience is like for the people using it or what the common good is it's like well like a lot of people fuck with alex jones on twitter so if like we ban him then like that might hurt like our user base yeah they didn't want to alienate supporters who make up a substantial chunk of twitter users so twitter's been trashed it turns out but i know it's just like it's like yeah it's like uh like a terrible cooking ingredient it's like yeah i mean it's bad for you he's like but you can you can do good stuff with it too like you kind of do good stuff with it yeah like you know don't don't don't don't talk all kinds of shit about crisco right it does does help some tastes good like some of your favorite stuff actually it's verifiably terrible for you but like come on now

um speaking of trash the u.s vetoed a ceasefire at the U.N. Security Council meeting. Yeah. So U.N. Security Council General Antonio Guterres invoked Article 99, which was a rare move that only happens when the Secretary General believes that a matter gravely threatens the maintenance of international peace and security uh forced to vote for a ceasefire in gaza and the u.s alone used their fucking veto power everybody else was in favor of it except the uk so i guess the u.s the bill like come on man no don't just just we'll just we'll just don't show up let's just play hooky today right right right right yeah stand from voting it's just like it's just so oh man another just fucked up cynical note in this whole thing like you know the the the reason behind it too is so weak and so fucking embarrassing and humiliating and makes me just so fucking angry the deputy

ambassador said that he like said he vetoed it because these are the reasons he's like there wasn't enough condemn hamas's in the document yes we need one of those every other sentence yes exactly it should have been called the condemn hamas act and also because the security council ignored his suggestions to add more like fucking sentences that were like giving the u.s like bigging up the u.s for like yeah like getting involved and also like not talking about like all of the like saying like horrific attack or like specific things that happened on October 7th. So they basically got upset that they weren't allowed to propagandize

the resolution itself. Which, again, I don't think even if they did, I don't think they would have voted for it. But I think it's better to use that as the excuse rather than like, oh, I'm sorry, we're all systems go on just making it rain fucking bombs and shit over there.

This veto was soon followed by reports that Blinken had invoked emergency powers to bypass Congress and supply nearly 14,000 tank rounds to Israel. Yeah, this is, and again, like, we'll talk about a dimension of this in a way on our Tuesday episode. But when you think that you can just go say, oh, we have to just destroy Al-Qaeda. That's it. Or we just have to get rid of Hamas.

And that's it. And not actually address any of the underlying things that are happening or understand that a power vacuum is created. Then what? It's just so short-sighted. And again, we're watching the u.s do its thing uh and also see how how weak the un is like when it's like trying to be like all right this is an emergency this threatens like global peace okay the u.s is out okay never mind

right never mind yeah all right see you Yeah. That seems like it shouldn't be. We shouldn't have vetoes for, you know, international. Yeah. But that's how they had to make that charter. You know what I mean? Yeah. And because then the whole global south could just be like, ah, guess what, America? Yeah. We're coming for that for the shit that y'all did. Yeah. All right let's uh let's take a quick break and we'll be right back when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado mariachi delicious cuisine and of course lucha libre it doesn't get more mexican than this lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha Libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance. It's tradition. It's culture.

This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport

from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring.

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And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we're back. And I just keep thinking about that Mitchell and Webb sketch, the, wait, are we the baddies? It's just like... Full on. Yeah.

It's truly like full on yeah it's truly like such thoroughly cowardly movie villain behavior like nitpicking bullshit in the wording and demanding that it like say nice things about the u.s well no they're trying to fucking save human lives. What did it say? What did it say we did? Did it say we helped? Debatable. Debatable. We have skulls on our hats. We were the only ones voting

to keep killing. To not do a ceasefire. And the reason was because we had a reason really to say that that's why it's bad we just turn it into our egos also this this we kind of need this to be propaganda too at the same time could you uh sweeten the pot in terms of like saying we're cool um anyways uh in other news uh a big retail group retracted uh their startling claim about organized shoplifting you fucking losers the national retail federation remember we've looked we've been on this shit alec carrick and sanis has been putting just always constantly

been sounding alarms alarm as well as many others, but Alec was definitely our end point to this, about being like there's no fucking crime wave you pieces of shit. There's no fucking organized shoplifting rings aren't bringing

corporations like Target and fucking Walgreens to their fucking knees. And so the national retail Federation, which is that trade group who is always saying that, like who said nearly half of the industry's $94.5 billion in missing merchandise in 2021 was the result of organized theft. They had to basically retract that because it was likely closer to 5%. Oh,

they just misplaced the decimal point dude that happens to be all the time that's no my bad i added a zero i added a zero wow my five percent they said in like this article in the new york times it's sort of going on through all the data and like the retraction it said quote in fact retail theft has been lower this year in most of the country than it was a few years ago according to police data some exceptions including new york city exist but in most major cities shoplifting incidents have fallen seven percent since 2019 is not the version that i've been told oh really you don't say the new york times say anything about their

role no no where's their retraction too do they need did someone else need to maybe file a retraction yeah yeah but it's uh you know it's like one of those things too all you need is you need enough sensational video clips of like black and brown people running through a store taking stuff and then you can be like and this is why we need more draconian laws and you just need a handful of videos a handful of examples and then you just keep showing those over and over again and that's what sticks in people's brains yeah if you can conjure up like a video every four months, you're good.

Yeah. The power of the fucking media for sure. I think that's also more so than like this retraction. I think maybe, I mean, maybe you guys need to do a little soul searching. Right. Interesting.

Yeah. It is also interesting. Like, why are they bothering to retract it what yeah we'll see but i think because enough people were like the math ain't mathin uh-huh so they just had to they just felt the pressure to be like okay well first of all like you guys know we're a lobbying group right we lie for a living that's kind of our thing yeah um it's this because this other outlet was like just completely poking holes in like how the fuck is that even like it was truly like how is that possible like we're looking at other data and like it doesn't square with anything we're seeing even from like the reports from these

companies but they did double down. They were like, they said, even though they retracted it, no, no, no. After the retraction. Wow.

They said, quote, we stand behind the widely understood fact that organized retail crime is a serious problem. Impacting retailers of all sizes. At the same time, we recognize the challenges, the retail industry and law enforcement have with gathering and analyzing

an accurate and agreed upon set of data. Alright. Krispy Kreme donuts have invaded France. Despite the fact that Paris is just brimming with delicious pastry shops, there is now a Krispy Kreme in

Paris. And to keep with the theme of this episode, that marketing is evil and effective um they they like plastered the entire city with guerrilla marketing like posters and shit like that and uh it is wildly successful when it opened last week 400 people lined up outside um some had been there as early as 10 p.m the night before uh which makes sense because the first 10 people in line won a year's supply of free donuts um that's like a thing that i'm honestly i'm like i don't know if i need a fucking year supply of fucking a year supply of free krispy kreme donuts would be so bad for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But also, like, it just stresses me out, too, because, like, when donuts start getting stale, that's when I start eating more. Like, I've bought, I remember buying, like, a dozen Krispy Kremes. To race against the clock. Yeah, and then, like, you have that one bite, you're like, oh, shit, they're going, they're going. And you're like, fuck it, I gotta eat, I gotta just fucking stuff them now. Yeah. Yeah, not good, not good, not good. fucking stuff them now yeah not good not good not good i do feel like this is such a so squarely in the wheelhouse of like american capitalism and consumerism like it's i i'm gonna keep my eye on this one because it feels like 400 people lined up outside i'm like, did they work for the CIA?

Did they? How did this? Like, in the same way that Saddam Hussein toppled statue was, you know, they showed that every two minutes on CNN. Like, this is kind of like the peacetime version of that. It's like, we like we won like this is the ultimate cultural victory krispy kreme has taken over paris they think they're too good for us but look they love our shit yeah can't get enough of it they're like oh yeah oh so i i'm guessing your croissant is not actually even comparable to the mighty circle that is the glazed donut yeah i mean i do get like i feel like nobody's impervious to like these are different categories

of human experience you know like a croissant made in paris it's poetry yeah is poetry whereas like a krispy kreme donut is pushing the scientific boundaries of sugar saturation. Right, right. You know? How much still, like, it actually isn't, it ceases to be bread and you're actually just eating granulated sugar. Yeah. Right. Yeah, it's just marketing mixed with, you know, the fact that they've been recruiting the greatest minds coming out of, you know the fact that they've been recruiting the greatest minds uh coming out of you know the

the greatest scientific institutions in the world to come work for fucking christmas cream donuts it's like how do you make that glaze just create such a dopamine response that people are gonna line up uh for for days but i mean i you know like it's if if the if the causal is poetry then the what the donut is uh like a cool machine gun yeah what is like i don't know i don't even know how to compare it but i guess it is just one of those things too where we'll see how long it lasts yeah you know like if it because it's like the thing anytime i remember when crispy creams were opening up like outside of their original like market it was the same thing it was a big rush yeah but i mean i guess they must be doing well because it's not like it's like the crispy i remember when there

was like one that opened in burbank and it was like a fucking mob scene. Yeah. Um, and, but that was just, that's, it's still going strong, I think. So maybe, maybe we were introducing them to the power of a very sweet donuts. Yeah. The,

the marketing that they did, by the way, was illegal. Like they just, uh, plastered the entire city with posters. Um, and the deputy mayor mayor was like,

well, Krispy Kreme, you corporation that is publicly traded, I think, you should expect a pretty big fine coming your way. Yeah, guess what, buddy? That's 40 euro per poster you put up. So, yeah.

That's coming out of your end guy i just we need to stop with fines like that was the second like there was also a story on npr this morning about how you know trump is not testifying but they were also going through his you know um just defiance of the gag order that was put on him and they were like despite multiple fines this is like man fines yeah oh wow work for anyone who are the people who need whose behavior needs to be changed and they're yeah it's like classist and uh you know discriminatory against people who are poor like yeah that's all fines are unless there's like something to actually create like a tiered system of like what an individual is fined based on their

income or whatever or corporation like they have to be like devastating but you know now they're just like little taxes now that people can collect and yeah you know they take into account before they make the decision they're like okay well how many people could they possibly find us okay what could what possibly could a class action lawsuit be for the the deaths like what like 10 people die yeah okay fine fine fine 100 million dollars yeah oh yeah then it's super profitable like i'd be not doing my job to not risk those 10 people's lives um and then finally golden globes noms dropped big news uh may december is a comedy uh i don't know if people saw that one but it is they got nominated i haven't seen it that movie's about a woman who's gonna play like a mary k letourneau type character yes and it's following mary k letourneau type character yes and it's following

mary k letourneau around to like research research that's a comedy that's a comedy baby you know well i mean i i say that like as if i don't understand what's going on they do that because the studio cynically put it they they sent it for consideration as a comedy because they fill the dramatic categories too congested so that's why the martian was one it's just a dumb hack to try and get a fucking award like the martian is fucking mel brooks compared to this by the way i've seen them both um yeah is there anything remotely comedic about it i mean it's like i it's darkly like some of the takes could be seen as darkly comedic um it's like they have these super melodramatic musical cues that i think are like definitely ironic um it's it's a really good i thought right um but in a way that is like tragic and that not, yeah, it's just definitely shines a light under some rocks.

But yeah, it's just a way to sneak nominees into a category that might be less competitive, but it also has to piss off like the filmmakers to be like. And Natalie Portman, your performance was hilarious. Thank you so much. Yeah. you're going up against the although i did i studied a lot of vaudeville yeah you know i really wanted to nail the subtleties of it yeah um there's two new categories one for uh stand-up performances which seems to be be an award for stand-up comedians who put out specials that are late in their career and below their normal standards.

Yep, yep, yep. Just like, I guess, the biggest names who put out specials this year. They didn't even give it to, like, Mulaney didn't get nominated, but like Sarah Silverman, Chris Rock, you know all all the big yeah I don't look I'm not I'm gonna cast dispersions here I don't think the Hollywood

Forum Press is equipped to actually determine what is good stand-up comedy yeah yeah I may have a bit of insight to that the other new category is one we've speculated in the past or it feels like they're going for a thing that we've speculated in the past. Like I've suggested having one category for best film and one category for best movie. And, you know, maybe something could be both,

but, um, you know, that, that would be some of the conversations, but basically things that are like, you know, a great work of art versus things that

are just like a good time at the movies successfully like executed um they seem to kind of do this they they called it a cinematic and box office achievement right uh but it it's weird it just seems like they like right now it's just an industry award based on who donated the most these like guardians of the galaxy volume three is in there john wick chapter four i don't know i guess i i saw john wick chapter four i wasn't crazy about it but some people seem to really like it and some people really like guardians of the galaxy movies but it just feels like i i wish the emphasis was on the like cinematic achievement by a movie that did well at the box office so just like here are some movies that did well at the box office because then it's unclear why this exists did you do a

hundred million did you do at least a hundred million in domestic box office? Yeah, yeah. It's just the bar. Yeah. It did allow them to throw a nom to Taylor Swift, which will probably help with ratings. Oh, come on, Taylor. Bring Travis. It's going to be a fucking moment. Yeah.

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