The Daily Zeitgeist - The WomTrend King 9/16: Bad Bunny, Martha's Vineyard, Jeffrey Dahmer, SNL, 'Dont Worry Darling'

Episode Date: September 16, 2022

In this edition of The WomTrend King, Jack and super producer Becca discuss Bad Bunny's new music video, the Right's inability to see asylum seekers as humans, the new Jeffrey Dahmer show, the new SNL cast members, and the NYT's 'Don"t Worry Darling' review!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just

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of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The One Trend King, the new Viola Davis movie that is getting incredibly good reviews, is also incredibly violent. The Venn diagram of movies I am going to watch the shit out of. I am Jack, and I'm thrilled to be joined

today by super producer, Nekaramo! joined today by super producer, Nekaramo! Hello, hello. I would like to say I did not put it in the show notes yesterday and that is my bad. Happy Latinx Heritage Month started yesterday.

So, yeah, for all those who celebrate, give money to your local Latinx friend. Give them reparations for the colonization of their countries as well. Donate to Latinx Causes. Go see an art exhibit. Go listen to Bad Bunny.

Do more. Learn more. Happy Latinx Heritage Month. Let's get into Bad Bunny. Bad Bunny's official video for the song El Apagón came out today. It's a cool video. And also there's learning to be had. Yeah, there's a mini documentary at the end of the video that's giving context to all the issues and atrocities

happening in Puerto Rico right now. When the stream came out live, it was very clear people were dipping off after they hit the end of the video and a face in the atrocities happening in Puerto Rico and being there for the people in a very real and productive way, which I love that about him as an artist, especially with the truly like number one artist in the world global platform he has. I feel like he's really put like what's going on in Puerto Rico on the map in a way that nobody has been able to do before. So super love and appreciate that. Watch the video, go learn some stuff. And on top of that, there is a hurricane coming. I think it was,

I don't know if that was planned or not, but he posted that. And then now there's been an announcement that Hurricane Fiona is potentially coming for Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands and that it will be catastrophic winds and rains. So pray for Puerto Rico. If you are religious or whatever, just put your heart out there for the people of Puerto Rico. They still have not recovered from Maria. That was five years ago. So yeah. Like talking about you kind of just briefly reference the Bad Bunnies, like the biggest artist in the world. But that truly, I haven't seen, you know, since peak Drake, I haven't seen like I I'm a loser and I pay attention to what is what are the top hundred most played tracks on Apple Music on a day-to-day basis. And this whole summer, it's been songs off his album.

The whole top five is basically Bad Bunny songs. Truly just dominance across the country. He really has just broken records globally and like and US side of like I think really being able to put like international music

on like American scale they're like the crossover has always been like America global and very rarely

do especially Latinx artists get that like Latinx to American crossover. I feel like you know

Rosalia started doing it, but Rosalia has a lot of her colonialization issues anyway. She is a Spanish artist and reggaeton, like Spain Spanish artist and reggaeton, which is its own Spanish complicated relationship. But

Bad Bunny, he is like breaking down queer barriers for the community. He's breaking down machismo and he is like breaking down queer barriers for the community. He's breaking down machismo and he is just so incredibly talented. And I am so humbled to like be growing up in a time where like someone like Bad Bunny can be dominating like the global, like it's like only the representation I ever dreamed of, you know, growing up. Like I feel like growing up listening to any sort of Spanish music was like so made fun of like so frowned upon and now you have people like at parties at clubs like purposely blasting Bad

Bunny Reggaeton that would never happen like 10-15 years ago you'd have to go to like specifically like Latino clubs to like hear that kind of music and now you can go anywhere or like be in Miami like now you can be anywhere and like listen to that kind of music and that you can go anywhere or like be in miami like now you can be anywhere and like listen to that kind of music and that is like you have so many white people thirsting after bad bunny and playing and like using it as like you said drake captions like that is like bad bunny has taken over that kind of spotlight and it's so cool to see it's fangirling here all right well uh All right. Well, let's talk about how the GOP is dealing with migrants and that is treating them like props. they're sending um i think venezuelan migrants uh to you know far-flung regions of the united states uh that are you know blue states and being like you deal with it see how you like it and um i i've seen like a couple kind of right-wing people being like so so most people are like

holy shit this is horrifying this is wild that y'all are the party of christianity and you're treating people like in not the most literal interpretation of inhumanely you're treating them like not human for your own political purposes and to like do like a political prank it feels like it almost feels like a prank i think that's actually what um one of the people who's now in martha's vineyard actually said they were like cool uh governor de santis cool prank man that was you really you really got us um because so the the details that are emerging is that they like lied to them they were like yeah yeah there's gonna be good jobs if you go on this plane and uh yeah just go on there uh we'll

we'll see on the other side and you know they they also i think falsified um their address records to so that they would be technically illegal when they arrived so just all around um truly wild and so then i've seen people responding to the news and to the people who have a soul being like this is the worst thing i've ever seen being like ha see you talked about sanctuary like they're just don't brushing past the idea of no these are human beings what are you doing and being like see you don't like it now like just kind of yeah they're like oh you wanted sanctuary cities and i was like but this isn't an ethical way this isn't a sanctuary city anymore and the way that you did it because you purposely tried to fuck with the people who are seeking asylum and make it a point

that they can't really ethically, legally seek that asylum by falsifying their records, lying to them about where they're going, X, Y, Z. It's so, it is,

it literally gets under my skin, like gross, like I want to vomit type of feeling listening to this story because it's not new. It is new for it to get this type of attention, but there's so many different ways this has already been happening for migrants in this country for many, many, many, many years. and from many different places. I feel like even back in the day,

like the bootstrap program for Puerto Ricans to come into this country, they were lied to where they were going to go, where these jobs are going to be. Like it is just such a tale as old as time when it comes to border relations of the United States. But it is so sick and sad and twisted to see these families be, you know,

violated, lied to, used as props to be, you know, treated as, like you said, subhuman. And it's so ironic for these Christian conservatives to behave this way when they truly choose to go on mission trips to these third world countries and take pictures with their kids and be like look i'm such a good person i like disrupted the ecosystem of this area and look at me doing volunteer work i'm doing mission work and i've come back but if they try to come here yeah and it's also telling that so they've already constructed the argument that they're going to have in their mind right so they sent the people and then they assumed that the communities where they were sending them to would be equally inhumane

and be like get this garbage out of here and they're like see you don't like it now because not only is their mind incapable of like actually conceiving of these migrants as human beings, but they can't conceive of other Americans feeling that way. And so they just kind of like power through to the next step in their argument, even though that's, that's not the reaction people are having. People are just being like,

yeah, we're trying to help them. What are you, you know, I'm sure not everybody in Martha's vineyard is doing that. I know that like some of these rich communities have very conservative, wealthy people. I know one person was openly being like, well, Obama should open his house to them. I saw a tweet today, which I'm sure was in relation to this, but it was like some conservative

asshole was like, why don't illegals ever go to Puerto Rico? And it was like, I, that doesn't help either. Like you can't just ship them to another place that's also disadvantaged. Like, huh? Oh my God. All right. So let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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there's a, our guests on Monday's episode of a podcast where they were recently debating like movies versus TV, um, which like, obviously you don't have to pick one side or the other. Um, but I do feel like sometimes I am influenced by growing up as a movie fan and growing up in an era when movies were art and TV was sitcoms and get excited about movies and movie trailers and treat movie releases as events in my mind.

And I don't have like TV should never attempt something something that is like so dark and it is so Ryan Murphy to want to take on this topic it is so Evan Peters to want to be a part of it so where do I know Evan Peters from because I saw the trailer and I was like oh Evan Peters wait he's wait he's a ryan murphy darling so he's in all of the or almost all of american horror story he tends to lean in this like creepy like world um he also was in kick-ass he's like one of the psychic friends he also um is quick silver in the x-Men series of the movies. I think like the Force One or whatever,

the new class. Okay, that's where I know him. X-Men First Class, yeah. So he's Quicksilver for that. I think he did a little crossover in the WandaVision worlds and plays Quicksilver there too, kind of showing that like X-Men's going to move over

in the WandaVision, the whole other thing. But yeah, so I have loved Evan Peters. I've grown up with Evan Peters and loving this creepy world. But I agree with you where I, Super Producer Brian put in the chat, why do we keep doing this? So sick of serial killer shit.

I'm also done with it. I feel like we give, especially specifically serial killers, way too much time of day. They're evil people. Like, they target really underrepresented, like, sad people. Yeah, in this case, very much so. Yeah, we're telling the story of, like, just an alcoholic, like, white guy who's just, like, a complete failure and then just goes around and gets away with murdering

like people of color because the police are just like i don't know man like exactly and they've already made a movie they've already you know with um cross lynch uh is his name he was a disney darling and now and then was on netflix's sabrina and then he did that movie as well so it's like they already made the movie why i i think i'm good i'm kind of with you i'm team movie i love movies i like having a short like not short movies aren't short anymore but i like knowing it's like start to finish like this is a complete story when i'm like watching it i get to go and consume this piece of art and like feel the full it's like reading a book like from start to end. You're like, ah, I got it. I've absorbed that. That was beautiful. Whereas TV, it's created this like constant pump system where it's like eight more and then like a three spinoff shows and then like a character arc in this and it's just like too, I feel

overwhelmed by the amount of content that's out there that I tend to spiral into reality TV and I used to never be a reality TV person but I feel like it's the only thing I can consume lately that I'm like, I don't have to like stress about where this is going. Like, it's mindless,

it's numbing, it's fun but it's it's not supposed to be art and i get people are like we're in the best generation of tv but i'm tired there's too much tv right yeah yeah i mean you know the wire sopranos all like really great and proved that you can do serious art as as tv but like the hit to miss ratio like i i don't have to dig for two examples of great movies and this is obviously like a very controversial thing like i think when i when i see something on tv like just the the frame rate i biases me against it like if it's at the TV frame rate versus the movie frame rate and like that's not fair like there's

that has that's nothing but bias but at the same time I don't know this definitely feels like if you're gonna do a portrait of a serial killer like you don't people you don't want to make people sit with that for to be like

all right i'm coming back for episode two to see what what's happening yeah because it's also like ryan murphy has a tendency to really blow it up right to like it is controversial by nature on purpose like ryan murphy loves to like toe the line of inappropriate and camp. And with a story like Jeffrey Dahmer, to me, is it worth towing that line? Is it worth telling? I watched Glee back in the day. I've watched probably almost anything

Ryan Murphy has made. And I've loved American Crime Story was fun. Gosh, he had another show with Glenn Paltrow recently recently and this first season was good the second season was too much and like glee you could make a case study for like was it camp or was it inappropriate a lot of times who knows it was a different area of television but this story arguably does not need to be told again. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's clamoring for the guy from Glee to make a Jeffrey Dahmer movie.

Well, speaking of TV, SNL's new cast members were announced. Marcelo Hernandez, Molly Kearney, Michael Longfellow, and Devin Walker. You said that you're familiar with their work. I'm familiar with one of them. I know one of them was on Conan. I really liked his stand-up. It was very funny.

But otherwise, unfamiliar with these three faces. One of them is Cuban-Dominican, which is cool. More representation is always loved. It feels like it's a one-in-one out scenario with Melissa Vianna Senor is out. They bring in Marcelo Hernandez. But they also have the first non-binary performer

on the show, which is awesome. That one is Molly Kearney. So, you know, cool. That's great. It's going to be very interesting to see where this season goes because they interesting to see where this season goes because they lost seven cast members this season which is

a lot so I don't know they haven't even filled all of them back only four so we'll see and finally the New York Times has an article that is basically positing that the movie Don't Worry

Darling, which we've been following because we thought the trailer looked good, then people saw it and the critics are like eee, kind of a stinker. Yikes. Obviously we've been following it because there's a lot of controversy around what happened on set.

The various director, the key players fighting with one what happened on set, like the various, you know, um, director, the, the key players fighting with one another, possibly fighting with one another, possibly spitting on one another. Um, and the New York times has an article that I only bring up.

Like we've, we've talked plenty about, don't worry, darling, we don't need to talk anymore about this movie, but until it comes out, it's just watch it. It's like,

I think this is a new level of New York times, like getting something completely wrong on, you know, the issue on an issue that doesn't matter at all, but it's just so there, their theory is that the, the reason this movie might do bad is because of the controversy around it. Like the,

that is actually bad for the movie. Um, whereas this is a movie that is tailor made to like, if it got just great reviews, everybody would go see it. It's that type of movie that like needs to get good reviews. And once it has good reviews, like there's going to be interest see it. It's that type of movie that needs to get good reviews. Once it has good reviews, there's going to be interest in it. It looked

trippy and interesting. If it was at 90% on Rotten Tomatoes or The Woman King, for instance, I feel like everybody would go see it. But instead it's at 35%. Their thesis instead is,

but now the $35 million production is being referred to around town as kill your darlings. Over the past three weeks, the once highly anticipated movie has become a spectacle in all the wrong ways, with its director, Olivia Wilde, self-immolating on the publicity trail. Now all eyes are on the box office as the film, one of only three Warner Brothers, is releasing theatrically through the remainder of the year, debuts nationally on September 23rd. And then later they revealed that Olivia Wilde canceled an interview with them.

So I do think it's just them being like... Understandable. Yeah, yeah, I know. That is probably a smart publicity move, but they are, I think, probably just being mean. A little butthurt, a little misogynistic. I mean, this review, to me,

as much as the press is crazy, and I do think because, like you're saying, with 35% on Rotten Tomatoes, I'm sure now with the crazy press, people want to go see it just to be like, what is it then? The reviews are bad, but the drama's good, like interesting, good, not like actually good for anybody. Um, I think now more than ever people want to see it, but I also think this is like almost an unfair critique because so many men, so many male directors in Hollywood get to have crazy publicity stunts and crazy failings and then get another movie and get like the 35 plus million dollar budget again.

And, you know, I'm not saying I am team Olivia Wilde or team Olivia Wilde's character by any means, but to me, Bookspart was a great first movie. I don't think she's a bad director. I think she deserves another shot at directing. And if this tanks and she doesn't get it, I feel like Hollywood has learned nothing from me too, right? Has learned nothing from like becoming more progressive

as we, you know, probably already know that. But it just would make me sad to see if like, this puts more female directors behind because of, it's like perpetuating its own problem. It's like, that's not Olivia Wilde's fault at that point. That is the system and the industry's fault of like not being able to give her the you know comeback that many many many many men directors have gotten over and over and over again right and it's yeah it's like this is a long tradition of directors having success with like one of their

early projects. And then they get to make like their big statement, super ambitious, oftentimes overly ambitious movie that kind of tanks. Uh, and that's what, that is sort of the rhythm of a Hollywood director for the most part. Um,

and the, that, the fact that this scandal is being overlaid onto that and being like well there's also a level of personal failure and yeah you know uh more moral like repugnance at the core of this that will allow us to write olivia wild off is is pretty frustrating. I just wonder if like a male director were in the same scenario, would the New York Times have written the same article? You know, that's like my only,

I want them to think about that, you know, go back to the writing board and be like, had I put a man, had I put Oliver Wilde in here, would I have written the same article? I don't know. I don't know if they would have. So, yeah, I think this is just the New York Times

wanting to write a gossip column, but having to have a news hook for it. And so being like, is this... Because they do bring... They quote someone as saying there's some degree of sexism in this. Maybe they could have moved that to the top

and been like, there's some degree of sexism in this article being written. In this article I'm writing. Yes. Anyways, Becca, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you,

all that good stuff? You can find me and follow me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all platforms. You can also find me at Mil Mundos Books. I want to promote just because it's Latinx Heritage Month. It's a Latinx bookstore. I volunteer out on the weekends. They deserve all your love and support. Go support Latinx businesses.

Yeah. And if you are in New York City on September 27th and you are a fan of Julissa Calderon, she is going to be doing an event at Mamudos Books, September 27th from 6 a.m. She's doing a book tour. If you have her manifest like a book, she's doing like a reading and writing like workshop seminar thing. It's a free entry if you already own the book and or buy book upon entry as your ticket. So yeah. And that is Mil Mundus Books. So M-I-L-M-U-N-D-O-S Books. Yeah. Milmundusbooks.com if you want to go find more. Go check it out. All right.

That is going to do it for us this afternoon. We're back on Monday with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, have a great weekend. Be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine if you can. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to you all on Monday.

Bye. Bye. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in.

Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go

down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.