The Daily Zeitgeist - They Ate…MY Face? Grinch Cringe 12.18.25

Episode Date: December 18, 2025

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I had a very interesting parent moment this morning when I was walking my kid to preschool. His preschools near like an elementary school. And they were having like a Christmas concert outside. So like we walked by and there's like a group full of like, I don't know, like third graders singing Christmas time is here, but from the Charlie Brown Christmas. So it sounded like the fucking recording. They were doing it. Yeah, yeah.

And I saw these parents. And then I started getting emotional because I immediately was like, what if that was my child singing my favorite Christmas song? And then her match is like, what the fuck is wrong with you? And I was like, I was like, this is beautiful. She's like, but I think there's falling out. It's so warm. No, I was just like, no, I told her.

I was like, this is my favorite song. And one day he could sing it and I'll be one of them. I just had like, I think I had like vicarious parental like overwhelming emotions. Yeah. Overwhelmingness. Yeah, but I look, all these parents are bored as hell. Oh, like, there's got to be someone who's a mess over there. Everyone's just like on their phones.

Jesus, come on, guys. Yeah, my parents, my parents didn't, I could tell they, they did not care about my recitals. But we weren't good. It's fair. Like, it didn't, it didn't sound fun for anyone. Yeah, it was, yeah, it wasn't, he was like, ah, you should have hit that much harder yet. I don't know. He was in the crowd like Sting, watching that guy do a cover.

Every step you take. Did you see that video? Wait, what is that? There's this cliff of stick. This guy's like up there, like playing on the acoustic guitar. He's like, Erestab you. Hey!

And it just cuts to sting and he's like, oh no. Like he's like wincing along with it. It's kind of kind of incredible. Oh, this was like at a big concert. Yeah, it was a big event. He looked like he just got his cyanide capsule down. Sorry, just stuck in my throat there for a second.

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Yes. That is National Twin Day. If you got a twin, shout out, who are the twins I know? Oh, Brittany and Preston, Danny, Olivia. Jake and Nick. Of course. okay um let's see oh uh liz and scott uh these are my family all right anyway famous twins famous the most famous those are the most i can't even think of anyone else uh national

roast suckling pig day national re gifting day those kids from the shining sorry go yeah uh and some answer the telephone like buddy the elf what the forget it just this is all detracting from the reason which is the birth of our savior jesus christ Thank you. Elf is like one of those. Don't snicker at that, Tori. Are you? How dare you?

You know better than that. I know you were raised in the chair. You know better than that. Elf is one of those movies that I really enjoy, but like the stuff around it, the people who like really embrace it. I don't enjoy quite a little. I haven't seen Elf since it came out.

Oh, really? Yeah. It's a real holiday classic around these parts. Is it because it's funny? That's like my kids favorite. Is it because it feels very Christmassy? Does it feel very Christmas? It's like a fun, I don't know, every time I'm like James Kahn.

I don't know. I don't know about all this. Well, he's the Grinch in it, man. But then he eventually has his heart melted. He does? You walked out halfway through, huh? I walked out. I walked out, and I remember I told my friend about it. He choked me out for telling him that.

It was really bad. Anyway, cool. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka AI makes bears that are 10. in fires and on trampolines the animals jump higher and we burn burn burn all the water all the water that one courtesy of snarfiel on the discord in reference to what i think is a fair tradeoff okay i'm tired of these people complaining about the environmental impact of ai we get to watch bears tend fires and explain to our parents that that's not actually happening you thought the bear's knew how to make fucking s'mores? I don't know. Maybe. They're fucking getting smart. They don't have fucking thumbs, mom.

I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gregg. It's Miles, Gray, aka, how your name is Miles, at you 6-2? How are you hosting a podcast, and you're 6-2? Why is there a Jack O'Brien if you're 6-2? How are you watching Bravo and you're 6-2? Shut out, New Chris for that one. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man. But what happened?

This is what, this is just me. I don't know why my name is Miles. and I'm 6-2. But it is. Why do you name Miles? You're 6-2. How are you hosting a podcast in your 6-2? How are you hosting a podcast

and your 6-2 would be a good lyric for your Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. They're like, bro, really? You're 6-2 and you're hosting up. You got so much else going on. You got other shit going on, right? I got an excuse.

I'm only 6-1, so, you know. That's right. I'm not quite there. That's why he didn't make a song. Stay at it. Nobody's expecting shit for me. Oh, put Tims on. Then you'll get there.

I know. Put some Tims on. Oh, believe me. I'm double, I'm double stagging Tims right now. Yeah, dude. I put tiny Tims inside big Tims. Wait, like the character. That's how I get to 6-1.

Oh, I think you meant from a Christmas Carol. Oh my God. They put tiny Timbs. Sorry. I put tiny Tims inside big Tims and that's my Christmas decoration. I thought you was talking about Bob. Wait, hold on. You Bob, you Bobby Cratchett's little boy, right?

I remember you. Look at you out here. That guy needs to be in a Christmas Carol. Oh, wait a minute. Wait, hold on. You Bobby Cratchez kid. Just completely blows the framing. In turn of century, England, London.

Smoking a black and mild, watching NBA highlights on your phone on YouTube. Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. You're Bobby Crutches kid, right? What's up with your leg? You're all right? How are you on Crutches? And you're 6-2. That's right.

Tiny Tim actually 6-2. Yeah. How's your name Tiny Tim, and you're 6-2? Yeah, exactly. Miles, we're thrilled to be joining. in our third seat by a brilliant anti-racism, educator, activist, writer, creator of the acclaimed podcast, White Homework, and co-host of Go Home Bible, You're Drunk. It's Tori Williams Douglas.

Hi. Thanks for having me back on. It's so good to see you guys. I feel like I was on last Christmas season, too. So this is exciting for me. You know, this is a tradition unlike any other. Because I like having people that understand the stakes. Know the vibe.

Yeah. You know what I mean? To me people talking about fucking Santa. You need people who have read the Bible. Yeah. Okay. Who know. Who are down to mock Balthazar, the wise man, and offensive black face caricatures.

Oh, no. One of the little wise men in the nativity sets was always a black dude. Yeah. Isn't that Balthasar? Well, I mean, they weren't real. I don't know what their names are. That's Balthazar. Is it?

Okay. I will take your word for it. shout out your favorite wise men on three. Frankencents guy? Who brought that? I just know their gifts. Yeah. Yep.

Exactly. Babies need frankincense. I think we discussed this last time. Babies love incense. Oh, yeah. I think we did. They're like, oh, I know what that baby needs. Murr.

Sorry, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners, There's a couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going to check in with Vivek, Ramoswami, who thought he could do it. He thought he could make his way in the mega world today. He has a new op-ed for the New York Times, basically laying out how he is seeing the future of the racist movement that has thoroughly rejected him. So we'll talk about that.

We'll talk about Donald Trump taking a page from the George W. Bush playbook. He's officially designated fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction. So we'll talk about that and just how his administration is doing with regards to overdoses. We're going to check in with the Grinch. Every year, the Grinch gets more and more popular and used in the most fucked up ways possible, both to sell shit and to justify fascism this year. So we'll talk about that. Wasn't it last year the cops were like chasing down a Grinch? who was like, get that Grinch who stole the Christmas.

Like, we're the cops. Yeah. Fuck the Grinch. That movie would have been better if they had shot the Grinch while he was breaking and entering. If the cops who would just indiscriminately fire their guns like they did and it's a wonderful life. That's right.

Licking shots into a crowd of the street. You're shooting from a hip, bro. And a crowd. Okay. Well, anyway. What had he done that made them decide to try and shoot him in the back? Because he freaked out his wife who she was like, I don't know this motherfucker. He's like, it's me.

Where are you? Oh, come on. You remember me? And then they just tried to gun him down in the street. Yeah. I mean, that's what they did with mentally ill people. Yeah, because remember they're like, then they're like,

mentally ill people now. Right. They're like, because then the one guy's like, get him out of here. And the one guy goes like, crack a bottle over his head. Yeah. Just because he was like,

I don't know this man. Yeah. And then the guy shot at him. All of that plenty more. But first, Tori, we do like to ask our guest. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are. Oh, okay.

This is like, I love this question. I was thinking about it. Like, what have I been searching? Mm-hmm. And I'm going to be totally honest. I'm just going to own this. Yeah. I have been searching for press on nails.

Okay. That is my, that is my Google search. Is that which, are you rocking those right now? Yep. Because I was going to say, nail game on point. Thank you. I appreciate that. So, yeah.

I've been going to the nail salon is a lot of time, even more than like the expense. it's just, it's like, I don't, I just, who has this kind of time if you have children or other responsibilities like a aging parent you're caring for any of these kinds of things? And so I was like, I need to figure this out. So I have 90 minutes to let some person hold your hand. Plus the commute there and back. Right, right, right. Yeah. Right. And so it's just like, oh my God. Okay, I can't do this. So this is what I've been. I've seen this with some of my friends who are like into the like the press on vibe. And all.

all the time. I'm like, oh, look at you. And they're like, they're pressons. And I'm like, what? Because I still have my like 90s, 80s idea of like, like, yeah, press on nails. Yeah. That looked like straight up shit. It looked like, plastic. Yeah. You're like, the fuck is this. These are not nails. You just glue some plastic on your nails. That's what it looks like. And they're like, now it's like, you can't really tell. A little bit better. A lot of time cannot tell. I mean, I'm sure. Complementing other people. Right. I'm sure people who get their manicures and they're like, I know. And I'm sure you do. But. Oh, I fooled. I went in for a

pedicure when I had press on nails on my hands and manicures did not know. Is that my work? I know. I didn't remember that. She's like, oh, where'd you get your nails done? I was like, oh, no, I didn't. I mean, I did them myself. Do they make your regular nails, like, weaker the press on nails when you put them on?

No, no. I mean, if you're doing it right, I mean, you can definitely, like, damage them if you were just, you know, tearing them on and off. I told you, Jack, you were putting them on and taking them off. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's like ripping off a layer of nails. No, absolutely. No, that's so gross. No, never. He said it was exfoliating it. And I was like, what? Exfolating your nails. Your nail? I'm like, your cuticles are a mess. Tori, what's something you think is underrated? Um, using, I want to say air quotes, because people can't see me. Using poor grammar, I think is actually awesome. I think there's a reason that we called, what we now call grammar, please. used to call them grammar Nazis back in the day. And there's a reason we called them Nazis. It's because you're bad people. Like, let people just communicate. It's fine. And so I am very

pro using any kind of incorrect grammar. If you are communicating in a way that your audience understands you, you have successfully communicated. Congratulations. You don't get a cookie or a gold star or more rewards in heaven. If you use the Queen's English, like, Like, just let people be. Well, what's like, what's, what's one pet peeve you see where people are calling out, like, irregardless. Oh, like stuff like that. Yeah, not like there, there, or there.

I mean, who cares about that? Like, on, again, if you know what the person's saying, it doesn't actually, you know, if you're confused by it, and this is where I personally, I hate the Oxford comma, but I use it because it is clarifying. So I'll just say that, right? Yeah. Just so that what I'm communicating is clear to people. But I, you know, I stopped because Jack doesn't use one.

Hell yeah. Don't use it. That's a anti-like. I use the New Yorker style guide. You don't, you don't use an Oxford comma, do you, Jack? I don't know. Yeah, yeah. Because I'm not joking.

Early on in the show, when we would be writing together, I would have like an Oxford comma, and I remember you saying some shit about the Oxford comma. Really? I guess I don't need that shit. What an asshole. No, it wasn't even like an asshole take. I was just talking. I think I noticed.

I was like, oh, you don't fuck with an Oxford comma? And you're like, nah, not really. I don't know. And I was like, no. And then I, like, it was sort of like one of those things. I'm like, damn, are my Jinkgo jeans dorky now? Uh, yeah. The classic peer pressure around an Oxford comma.

Damn, dude, he's an Oxford comma. Okay. And then I start using it because you commented on my not using it. And we're just ships in the night. Yeah. Oh, are you using it again? And are you? Yeah, I agree with this take.

I think this is right. I think spelling, all that shit. I'm so bad at spelling now. I've just been writing into programs that spell check shit for me. For you? Yeah. Yeah, that I just have things that my son asked me in front of his friend, like at a Cub Scout meeting. He was like, how do you spell business?

and I tried to spell it out loud for him and I was like B-U-S-S-I-N-E-S and like the other dad was like no no no no no he's like it's not Mississippi dude B-I-S-I-N-E-S-Y-S-Y Hold on you spelled bussin I'm sorry I thought that's what you said

B-U-S-S-I-N-E-S-I-N- Yeah Anything that I didn't spell correctly once word processors came along in, you know, middle school. I still didn't spell well. Yeah. And I'm all right with that. And I'm all right with it. Yeah. It's how language innovates.

It's how we get cool things like, like, Slop being our new word of the year. Right. But yeah. Do you remember how they used to, do you remember how they every at the end of every year, like a bunch of, of all the online publications would be like, here's the slang words we're canceling from this year. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was all like,

it was all just like any word a black person had said in the last 12 months. They're like, never again. It's like, okay, stop. That was fun while it lasted, but we're done here. All right. There was like a yearly thing online. If you're online in like the mid-aughts, that was like every single December.

Like, here's the words were canceling. you can't you're not allowed to use slang it was just like someone at some point was like you guys this is racist as fuck what are you doing like you're you're just you're the person who gets to delete words really stop stop talking like that you know what we're doing we're not going to drink hennessee at the club anymore like what the fuck is that you're like pull your pants up and we're not going to wear sneakers everywhere oh my god what is it i thought you were talking about words now this is very just straight forward.

Boat shoes for everyone or bust. Or golf polos. That's the most casual thing I can bear to see is a golf polo. That's right. We were all dressed

in business casual back then anyway. I don't know what the fuck we were doing. Because it was all the racist door shit. That was like no hats, no baggy jeans,

no hoodies. Dude. That was, that was it. That was the reason why we had to pull up looking like a fucking job interview.

Jesus Christ. I had to remember buying, I remember buying leather shoes. So I could go to the, fucking club. It was so stupid. And that was one of the real, that's like, I, I, I was off that shit so quick. I was just, it was like a waste of money and also, I mean, I did have fun when I,

when I went, but that, no, wasn't funny. So are people saying grammar police now instead of grammar Nazis? Like, now that there's real Nazis? Has there been a trend? I think so. I've been saying grammar police. Yeah. I mean, that's what I've been saying. But maybe, maybe I'm just only in the woke corners of the internet and other people are still saying grammar Nazi. I don't know. Yeah. It does, it does feel a little weird to use Nazi lately now that we have, yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. What is, what's something you think is overrated? Okay, Miles, you have to get with me on this one, but, um, for this episode, I'm going, the Bible. The Bible is overrated.

The Bible? I'm so over it. So well written. I know. I know. No, they didn't have any editors. They didn't use any punctuation. One editor.

One editor. Well, one author, one editor, right? That's how it goes. No, but God could have used an editor. I think that would have been good for him. It's like his first writing project. You really need someone to step in. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I can't handle this, Tori. Please stop. This is, you're stressing me out. I've never done this to a guest, but I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ. Oh, my God. I was thinking about it, and I was like, this isn't, it's totally not to be like anti-anybody's religion.

Because obviously, like, Christians use it a lot now, but they stole it from Jewish people, et cetera, et cetera, right? That's the five books, just the first five, you know. First 39, it's fine. Who's counting? Yeah, yeah, limited to the Pentateuch, because that's what we're told, right? But this is just, as someone who has read through the Bible,

cover to cover about 12 times in my life, Jack, as you were saying, when we started the show. I'm just really over it. Yeah. And I think it's really boring. There's a couple good parts. There's a couple of highlights. Yeah. Most of that shit could have been cut.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I always call it the book of ghost stories, you know? It's kind of like, I don't know, I still use like ghost stories together and say these are the rules too. But I get it. I get it. It's one of those things, too. It makes me sad because, like, my grandparents were, like, good Christian people. You know what I mean?

They were always trying to be in service and always looking out for other people and doing their best to limit their sort of discriminatory thinking in certain times. And most of the time could come around to shit. But, yeah, like, I think there's just such an uptick in, like, the people who don't remind me of some of, like, they sort of, like, capital C Christians I grew up around as a young person. They're like now, because now I see it's like a texture with like, I know younger people who are like, yeah, we go to church now. And I'm like, what? But you got a piece of shit.

Like, what do you do there? And it sounds like you know about the other book, right? Yeah, yeah. But it's like, I think it's like there's also, I've noticed, and this is just very limited to a few people I know that it feels like like a laundering of your consciousness to be like, well, I go to church also that kind of helps. It's like weird. I don't see them sort of acting out what I believe a sermon would kind of have you feeling. the next day. But look. Yeah, it's like, it's just balancing the scorecard for them. They're like, I'm going to fuck around and then I'll go to church and it evens out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But hey, look,

do you, do you? Were there other Bible, were there other books that we know of that were written before the Bible? Like, what are the books? No, the Bible was the first book. Was the Bible first book? Thank you. I'm glad you got there first. Jack, I'm glad you got a good education. They invented writing and, you know, all the technology necessary to, no. Like, isn't Gilgamesh, like the first book? Gilgamesh, the story of Gilgamesh is older than the Bible, yeah. Yeah. Was like the Odyssey older than the Bible?

It's probably older than parts of the Bible, right? It's like mid in the middle, in the middle of the Bible, timeline-wise. But you're still, I mean, yeah, I guess so. Because it was written over like 2,000 years or something. Yeah, yeah. Like, it was a long span of time, like, 1,500 years. But more of like one of those anthologies. of literature from a certain period.

Now, that's what I call Bible. That's what they should have called it. King James the 6th edition. Now, that's what I call the official word of God. Yeah, that's essentially what the Bible is. It's a mixtape. Yeah, yeah, it is. But, you know, that's not how I was, I was raised with, like, biblical literalism, right?

So it's like every word of scripture is scientifically. and historically accurate. Right, right. Yes. And that's tricky. That's not right at all. And it's like, it actually, the Bible is more interesting if you engage with it in a scientific way, if you're looking at it through a lens of like, oh, yeah, this is just like

people were writing about their experiences and what was going on geopolitically and also trying to like convey narratives to future generations. Right. It's way more interesting like that than it is for like, oh, I'm just going to be like, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth and it took him seven days and then he pieced out and like, now we're here. Making this off making other earths. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's a question posed by Steven Spielberg's new movie, you know, nuns and aliens in the same movie. Now you know, you're in trouble. That was, that was interesting. All right. We're going to take a quick break.

We're going to beg for forgiveness, say a prayer of repentance, and then we'll be right back. I just want you to be saved, Tori. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know? What's this? Where is that?

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oh i'm so worried about and oh i'm so worried about you're so worried about you I'm so worried about you. I'm sorry. If you pray hard enough, eventually, I'll come around. What do you think I was doing that whole break? Mm-hmm. On my knees here, okay? Well, you also have to fast, if you remember in Matthews.

Well, I can't do that, but I can't do that. If you're serious about it, you'll stop eating. Sounds uncomfortable. No, no, I'm not for that, man. I'm just going to pray for you. There's so much of it that's like, okay, but maybe you should be more uncomfortable. Why don't you kneel for? 15 minutes. Now, why don't you stand up now that you've been kneeling? Now sit on the hardest wooden chair as possible. Now stand up. Now sit down. Now kneel. Simon says... I think they're just trying to keep people awake in service. Now speak Latin. Now shake hands around you. Shake somebody's hand. You look like you're too well-fed. Don't eat. Yeah.

Yeah. The only thing you can eat is what is the equivalent. Yeah. The equivalent of like a food that is a trick on somebody who's hungry. where it like melts away and is no longer food in your mouth. It's a neco waper. This makes you more hungry. Yeah, yeah. A necro wafer is what we should call that. Necro wafer.

Damn. See, and I thought I was going to hell. Look, bro, I'm already out here. You know what I mean? It's a balmy 78 degrees in December. Yeah, we're in the bad place. I think we go on great. Yeah, yeah.

Shout out bills above. You know what I mean? All right. Let's talk about another great writer. We talked about the one true great writer. But of course, Vivek Ramoswamy just dropped bars on all of our ass in the New York Times. He's had an interesting year, started out this past year, in a position of power. Yeah.

Heading up Doge Department of Government Efficiency with Elon Musk and has ended the year being like, oh, this is bad, guys. Yeah. It can't be the racist. I mean, maybe it's partially the racism, but not the way the libs want you to believe it is. Sure. He's a, he's a very recognizable figure when you look at conservative politics. He's the boy who thought the racists would accept and protect him. Not this time.

Surely this time, though, accept to me. This time. Surely not, okay? He did the whole cycle, acceptance, high profile tokenism, then racist slaughterhouse. And that's where he's at in that third stage, I think. Because after the Doge stuff, right, he's running for governor of Ohio. Like, that's the state where he was born. But this is where I think a lot of the interactions since he's been running for Ohio governor has been like, oh shit.

Yeah, these people fucking only like white people. And I think that's when he realized, look, you are the token in a white nationalist political party. So that means at best, you will never have a meaningful seat at the table. and at worst they know they let you know exactly who they are and i don't know if we covered it but there was this turning point event that he went to where like people like these students in ohio were like just straightforward being like dude you're like a gross like hindu right dude like that's not christian that's kind of fucked up and this was i think this was sort of the beginnings of him truly like being confronted with just how dismissive people are of like especially like

how dismissive conservatives are of any people of color like in the party and especially if they're not Christian like if you're if you're going to be a person of color you got to be Christian or else you're going to fail the second test which is are you Christian but here's here's this turning point event Jesus Christ is God and there is no other God he's part of the Holy Trinity and any other God and any other God is a demon and it's false how can you represent the constituents of Ohio we're 64% Christian if you are not a part of that faith if you are an Indian a Hindu Do coming from a different culture, different religion than those who founded this country, those who grew this country, built this country, made this country the beautiful thing that it is today. What are you conserving? You are bringing change. I'll be 100% honest with you. Christianity is the one truth. Christian voices should be the main voice of America. And I want to know basically why you seem to be, and I don't mean to be horribly offensive, but why you seem to be masquerading as a Christian.

You familiar with the Ten Commandments? You call yourself a Hindu, but you also call yourself Christian. I don't call myself Christian. I call myself a Hindu. I'm not running to be pastor of Ohio. I'm running to be governor of Ohio, and I didn't run to be pastor of America. He goes on this whole run, and like, no one is just like, okay, anyway, but bro, you're Hindu, right? Yeah, yeah.

And he's like, but that's not the point. I'm just trying to, like, lead people's like, but Christianity, Christ is king, dude, and you worship demons. So, sorry, you don't have my vote, even though you're down with Turning Point USA, which I think you thought that would give you shelter through this, but no. So, yeah, now he's penned an op-ed in the far-right New York Times, and he's still, the way this is written, he's still not getting it, like, cozing up to these people, to your oppressors is foolishness. It does not, there's, there's nothing liberating about aligning yourself with your oppressors,

right? And it makes a scene by the way, who was like, dude, you're not Christian and like who you worship as a demon, looked like you're like 12. He's like a pink-faced 12-year-old child. You should actually be burning in hell right now, dude, instead of sitting in front of me at TPUSA talking in my face. Yes.

Was like a child. And he's just sitting there. You can like see the life draining from Vivek's eyes as this is happening. Like he kind of gets like, kind of like, oh, fuck. Right. There's nothing. Because you know, like, there's fucking nothing you can say unless you're like, I renounce the Hindu religion and I'm now ready to be baptized.

And even then, and even then, it won't be enough because you are not white, Vivek. And here's, this is what he wrote in, this is how his op-ed opens. There are two competing visions now emerging on the American right and they are incompatible. One vision of American identity is based on lineage, blood and soil, inherited attributes matter most. The purest form of an American is a so-called heritage American, one whose ancestry traces back to the founding of the United States or earlier. This view is now popularized by the Groyper Right, a rapidly ascended online movement that argues for the creation of a white-centric identity. This is a predictable response, one that I anticipated in my 2022 book, Nation of Victims, to anti-white discrimination over the last half decade. And it is no longer just a fringe viewpoint.

So right there, he's saying the DEI woke shit. This is the justification for why the Nazis are here now because you did all this DEI stuff. So even then, he can't, he can't actually, he doesn't know the equation for how racism works. He's still framing it in that sort of context. And then he goes on to talk about how all the times social, he said, my social media fees are littered with hundreds of slurs and calls to deport me back to India. And parentheses, I was born and raised in Cincinnati and have never resided outside of the U.S. And again, Vivek, they don't care. They don't care.

This was never going to work. I like that he's also like, has taken a beat, been like what I should have said. the motherfucker at the turning point USA but then he's he's clapping back in the pages of the new york times like where literally not not a groper is going to see his argument well he his his his like main plea is to the the establishment of the republican party saying you need to sort out the Nazis in the party or else it's this is a lost cause and he also goes on to rightly point out, like, there's way too much, like, young people are facing way too much economic strife to think, like, this is going to sustain itself in any way. And I'm like,

okay, you've got a point there. But then he's like, his solution that has a bunch of pro-business bullshit. Right. It's kind of all over the place. But yeah, this other thing he says, he said, they're right, they're, this is talking about young voters, their rising sense of economic insecurity conspires with pent-up psychosocial angst. Depression and anxiety are more prevalent among members of Gen Z than in prior American generations. In the absence of a shared national identity, they're turning to tribalism and victimhood instead. Graparism on the right,

Zoran-Mamdani-infused socialism on the left. And his plea is... Equally bad options, as far as I can tell. Gryperism, the people who are just like, you're essentially not human to me. Go back to India, a place that you've never lived. So that's one option. And the other one is like a thing that people seem to like

and that would help... people in need. Free daycare is the same as, you know, forcibly expelling people from your country. Everyone knows this. I just love to like, bro, I want a white ethno state, but everything's expensive as hell. Yeah. That's my ideal world. Exactly. So does

he have good? I'm always curious when someone will get to the economic populist message that like it seems like is there for anyone to pay it? Like even Tucker Carlson has even toyed with it. He's like said

So things that are like, oh, do you actually understand that, you know, economic populism would be popular and helpful to people? What is his solution? What's Vivek's solution? There's a couple of boneheaded ones. He's like, we need to like cut the youth of America in on the profits of AI gains. Oh, yeah. What? He's like, give every kid $10,000 to put into the S&P 500.

So by the time they're 60, they might have a million dollars. And you're like, okay. Okay. So giving, so give Wall Street 10th. All right. What else you got? Here's the, here's the one that's a fucking just gem from his brain. Fourth, he's, he had like four kind of things. Fourth, provide America the shared national project we badly need. America has a greater purpose in the world than what we have. Rebuilding infrastructure, like creating good schools for people. Dude, Americans of all strikes long to be reminded of America's place in the 21st. century through a modern day equivalent of the Apollo mission perhaps it's establishing a base on the moon to achieve nuclear fusion in a way that powers the creation of artificial intelligence without negative externalities and constraints on earth perhaps it's something else or some similar scale or something else I don't know it could be like it could be like a nuclear moon base I don't know like whatever but we need something big, dude. Did AI write this? I just, I have a question or two

about this proposal. Not as many M-Dashes. So it does, I mean, like, the dumb idea, like, a moon, like, because you go, all right, people don't like nuclear energy like on Earth, right? So then what if we just export that work, like, outsource it to the moon?

And then trans, what are you doing exactly? How is it? Then we're transmitting information from the moon? Because the data processing centers are on the moon. And what? And the burns are their money. Yeah.

The worms are. Like, does he think like, I don't, I mean, I certainly don't, I don't know anything about communicating with the moon. But I'd imagine it's not cheap. And it takes, it takes longer than a satellite. Hell of a commute. Yeah. Hell of a commute, I'll say.

Yeah. For petabytes of energy, of data? When your searches have to go all. the way to the moon and come back, probably a little bit of a lag there, would be my guess. But we're outsourcing all the negative externalities and constraints on Earth to the moon. By sending this new generate, I think this is just him being like, could we send those kids who are fucking mean to me to the moon? I don't know, we'll tell them they're like working on AI or some shit up there. Moon jobs. That's what we have for Genzi is jobs on the moon. Go back to yourself.

Vivek has like a turn and this was his White House correspondence in her. And he's like, now I'm against all white people. No, probably not. Probably not. He's going to try harder probably. He would probably sooner convert to Christianity on like fucking on a TikTok live stream for Turning Point USA than have any kind of like actual applicable, tangible idea that could be used. Do you think that he thought he was going to be like millennial Dinesh DeSuzza sort of situation? Because like Dinesh is he's also in trouble right now.

Well, he's always in trouble. but like, no, but I mean like all the, like all the racists are coming for him too. And he's like, dude, but I'm Dinesh. Because again, it's a lot of these like groipers and other like. And they're like, you can't be here. They're like, shut the fuck up.

It's all hell is from diehard being like Hans, Bubby. Yeah, exactly. We just, we just met. And I was trying to get you to like me. Now you're going to kill me. They're like, right. Mm-hmm. Yep. It does just the idea of, this idea of

giving. kids money to invest in the stock market does increasingly like i do like what there's that dell thing where like everybody was going to get a fund that i said i think they're actually doing but like they i think there's some knowledge among the like uber wealthy that like they need to incentivize people to start giving a fuck about the stock market the way that like the mainstream media asks them to so like i do i do feel like they're going to start doing that like that that would be the reasonable move on behalf of all of the entire power structure of this country, both Republicans and Democrats who still want us to be like, the economy, well, that's Wall Street.

Well, it's like when the road forks off to like, do you want to do something that creates actual like equitable change or you want to line your pockets and you keep picking the line your pockets at every fork, it goes so far out there that you end up being like, what if we make babies give Wall Street money that the taxpayers pay for like wow okay because we I'm certainly not about to give up my multifamily unit complex that's not happening so maybe the babies need to pay need to buy some stock yeah elsewhere in Washington uh Donald Trump seems to be doing the George W. Bush he seems to be on a one way track to a mission we have a mission an accomplished banner in our future.

They're going to have to take the White House's print shop off of the job of labeling all the doors so he knows where he is. That Oval Office sign. They finally got the real one installed, I think. In Live, Laugh, Love. Oh, they've got the real one. And the text is way bigger, too. Yeah.

He was like, no, make it bigger. Bigger. The biggest you've ever seen. What? People need to know. People need to know. I don't think, like, that's not important. As long as you know where it is, people need to know which one's the Oval Office and stop.

These people need to stop walking into closets and getting lost in them. Yeah, these people, there are a lot of people out there I'm hearing that don't know where they are when they walk through the White House. So I feel like for those people, for those people, we should put up bigger signs, maybe some arrows on the carpet so I can walk in the right direction. Maybe something in the style of BDX Airport. I really like the look of the carpet there. Isn't that a security risk that you're going around labeling every entrance to the last year? This one is where the president goes. President's office. President's bedroom.

President sit here. I don't think that's smart to have a big old Etsy sign outside of every door just labeling where the president might be. But he just signed an executive order declaring fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction. The order literally stated that illicit fentanyl is closer to a chemical weapon than an archival. which is unprecedented for a narcotic and it signals his intent to treat fentanyl not just as a public health crisis but as a national security threat yeah as if they're nuclear arms yeah so that you can go to war with venezuela even though venezuela is not that involved in the fentanyl trade no but again you're after the oil yeah and you know you've got your you're the woman who won the

Nobel Peace Prize was out there being like, Trump, come on by, baby. Come on in. Come get this oil. And also, please get me the fuck out of here when shit goes down. I do not want to be here. Okay. Please, please. He's like, I can send you to El Salvador. Right. Right. Right. He's like, can't come here. Oh. Uh, yeah. Which country do you want to be pre deported to? Right. Because you're not coming here, babe. I'll tell you that. This is just, yeah, it's because right now there's a full on oil tanker blockade now outside, like with, with Venezuelan oil tankers

it's like every single thing the build up of military hardware the fucking illegal boat murders all of this is just like this just apparently there's reporting about how like his whole tactic with that is like he's hoping that with enough intimidation

Maduro just like steps down and he doesn't have to do anything because that is Trump also he likes he's like always like cocking his fist back and he's like oh you know and he's hoping that will work. Honey, cock my fist back, starting to hurt. Yeah. But yeah, to make it even more obvious that this isn't about fentanyl, fatal overdoses are, we're down in 2024 by 27%. The reason for this drop is somewhat like that there are competing theories about it, but the most likely reason is because of public health policies, the distribution of Nilexum, the life-saving medication that can reverse an overdose. which is interesting because you'd think somebody who was so worried about this that he would call fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction would be, you know, behind, you know, getting even more Nilloxone distributed.

In fact, he proposed canceling $140 million in grants to fund fentanyl overdose response efforts. And then only two weeks ago has like come through and been like, oh, actually, I didn't mean it. I didn't mean it, baby. Take me back. it's so funny because of all like he has no wins to talk about he could some in some way contort his brain and being like and i brought fentanyl overdoses down if you remember when i got into office they were out of control and they down they go how you do that and i say no business and i get the overdone like but now it's just again it's like a very just transparent justification for another illegal military incursion whatever the fuck this is going to be and it's just like it's is so funny that we saw this playbook be ran. A huge majority of voters saw

this playbook be ran already. That doing it again, and he thinks like, maybe you're going to be slick this time? Like, at least they were talking about a thing that could make a nuclear weapon. And you're out here being like, this powder that you see police officers pretend to knock them out.

That's a bar. I don't, okay, sure. Yeah, whatever you're, whatever you think. To use weapons of mass destruction, like to reboot that one. It's like the Tron franchise where they keep trying to reboot a thing that people didn't like the first time around.

That's a bad. No, that's bad. You shouldn't be pulling, shouldn't be copying off of one of the worst ones. That's one of the worst ones we've ever done. Right. Was justifying a war with weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist.

Oh, geez. So, we'll see. We'll see where this goes. But it feels like the appetite, Obviously, between the economy and the Epstein files, the very, like, dumb thinking that you've seen from this administration is, like, just sort of that, like, old adage of like, hey, man, a war can kind of get a lot of people on board, you know, you never know. But it's like that, that, I don't think that's going to work, bro. I don't know if that's going to work, especially when you're putting. You haven't created any pretext whatsoever.

Yeah. At least they had Saddam as. the bad guy the first time around. Yeah, and they're like, oh, the guy from the last one? Yeah, exactly. The guy from the last one, he brought that back? This is like Rocky 2. Yeah, dude. He's back, dude.

And he's way, he's way more bad, dude. He's worse now. Yeah, we have to stop. And he has yellow cake. He has yellow cake, dude. So. I don't understand why he doesn't just, like, send the CIA in, honest. Sincerely, I don't understand, like, why he doesn't.

He has. They've already, he's already, like, admitted that. Really? Yeah. I miss that. Oh, okay. I'm behind. Yeah.

But it's also, like, the point is. not to actually get the thing done. The point is to do the war and get a bunch of bang-bangs going off so he can then narrate the bomb, how bombs work to a captive audience. In October, he, like, proclaimed.

He's like, I am announcing that I am authorizing the Central Intelligence Agency to conduct covert operations inside, but he said that. I thought to kill Maduro, though, like, but you're right, He wants, he needs, he needs an enemy.

And this is who he's picked. And he has to keep being like, I'm sending these people in. I'm sending, look, guys, it's bad. I got to send in the regime change freaks, dude. Sending in the expendables. Yeah. I'm being told those aren't real. Sorry, I mean, sorry, I didn't mean that.

The Incredibles. It's like, can we fire up school the Americas again? Like, what do we got here? What's on the table? It is. It's just rebranded. It never went away. Yeah.

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movies that are objectively kind of bad, like the Jim Carrey one, everybody who saw it at the time was like, this is a fucking nightmare, man. What the fuck is this? But like now, you know, they just keep making them like, your mileage may vary. Younger people who saw that when they were kids think it's really good. But I think the reason we need it is because America has basically edited the bad guy out of the Santa mythos, like our Christmas. myth no longer has a bad cop whereas like all the origins of Santa Claus have like the French

have someone called father flock who comes comes along and like whips and kidnaps children who are bad there's crampus who just like swallows them whole but I don't know Tori do you find this like my kids have asked about the punishment for being on the naughty list like from day they're just like this can't be it it can't just be like coal or whatever like it has to there has to be something like it can't just be a good guy who's the

bad guy my friend Michael my friend Michael at school says someone comes over and beats the shit out of you not like yeah crampus is like huge with the second graders this year at my kid's school they're like all all they want to know is like what the details

of crampus my seven year old was like asking about like the Alps in relation to France. I was like, what? Why are you asking geography questions? Yeah. And he's like, well, because, so Krabas attacks from the Alps. And I'm just wondering, like, how

he gets into France. He's like playing war games, like the fucking World War II, like the little wooden circles on the map and pushing them across like billiards. That's amazing. Wait, so do your kids live in the perpetual fear of an omniscient God who knows if they've been Nottie or nice? No, they think that's so weird.

Like, they'll come to me and they'll be like, mom, evangelicals, what are they on right now? Right. Like, I don't know. But I, you know, I was, I wasn't evangelical when my kids were born. And so they do, I wasn't going to do Santa at all because I was like, well, I don't want to lie to my kids. But then my kids just, like, picked it up on their own. And I was like, okay, I'm not going to be a dick.

I guess I'll just go with this. But we never got into the, like, lump of coal, bad guys getting whipped crampus thing. My youngest would probably love crampus. My dad, yeah, Jack, you got, and he would be so into that shit. You got to take a page out of my dad's book and just shit on that childish idea so they can wake up. You're like, that's actually based on like a form of to try to control people because regardless, you will get gifts because it's a holiday. Right. And then they can go back and then be like, you know what my dad told me, Michael?

And then they're crying and shit because it's like, there is no fucking Santa. I'm so sorry about that. But I just want to say this. I don't know if you saw this article that came out. I think it was last week because you were talking about the Jim Carrey Grinch. And we were just talking about the CIA. But did you know that he was going to quit the Grinch because he went full Frank Havoc the first day in the makeup chair? And he said, I have way too much shit on.

And he was having a panic attack. And he told Ron Howard and Brian Grazer, he's like, bro, I can't do this. I quit. I will give you all the money back plus interest. I just cannot do the thing with the makeup. Brian Grazer put, got him in touch with fucking a guy who trained CIA officers on how to withstand torture. Wow. To get Jim Carrey through the makeup chair to be the Grinch every day.

He's like, no, man, I got a guy. He works with the CIA for how to withstand torture so you can play the Grinch. That's amazing. Wow. Jesus. It's like I didn't have no idea. I just saw that headline. I do remember like the stories being like Jim Carrey.

being like, this is literal hell. Like, yeah, yeah, I never want to do a movie like this ever again. Yeah. Anyways, I think the Grinch is our stand-in for, like, you know, the gods of consumerism in America were like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no crampus, just guy who brings presents. Let's, uh, let's get rid of the friction of the, uh, present buying thing. And then, you know, Dr. Seuss creates the Grinch. and then people want there to be like a more complicated mythology,

and so they make the Grinch big. And now it's just like everybody uses the Grinch constantly all over the place without any relation to like what the origin of the, like the original meaning. For instance, the White House tweeted out a Photoshop of the Grinch carrying handcuffs with the title, How the Illegal Stole Healthcare, and then like a picture of somebody being arrested by ICE, like photoshopped into the lower corner, which beyond the, like, overt fascism, like nothing about that image makes sense.

Like, if the illegal, are the illegals the Grinch's? Then why is the Grinch carrying the handcuffs? But, and like, we've got him off. If the Grinch is iced, does that mean that they're all going to have to have a change of heart come Christmas? Because that would be, I'd be all right with that. Because everyone just uses Grinch as shorthand

for a bad, Christmas bad guy. Right. Right. Yeah, exactly. That's just what, that's all people want, this Christmas bad guy. But, yeah, sure, it's, I'm sure that's going to really help people once the ACA subsidies completely go away, be like, yeah, thank God I saw that Grinch that stole the health. It was definitely them. Right. It's definitely them. Although most people are pretty low information. So it's bad. Who knows? Maybe they'll see that and they're like, you know what I saw? It was the Grinch that stole health. Or some people just don't. have no reading comprehension. They just see the Grinch and said stole something like, dude, the Grinch stole health care. I fucking had a feeling about that guy. It's because his heart's

too small. Linda McMahon, head of the Department of Education, posted a video where she recited a Grinch-style poem about fraudsters profiting off of student aid while wearing a jacket that would make Richard Simmons want to throw up. It's like this bedazzled red jacket with mega, which would make education great again, filmed in just a soulless boardroom but with like a bunch of balloons and shit behind behind her. This is fucking weird

dude. What the fuck? People are always trying to do Dr. Seuss. A green little thief who tiptoed through Whoville. Oh my God. We deserve to go to hell every single one of us. What the She's doing like a little

act amount, but I just want to read from their prose from their poetry they slithered through paperwork schemed with delight like adding fake students deep into the night they dreamed of a sack stuffed to the brim with billions of dollars prospects were grim but we weren't sleeping not even a wink we checked the numbers the forms blank we spotted the fakes the tricks the slight little plots and followed the trail to connect all the dots following the famous dr seuss rule of if some of the words in the paragraph rhyme with each other, you're good. Just get the vibe. Just get the vibe. Just get the vibe. Does it make a couple of them rhyme.

I'm like, okay. This is just so funny because you have the, at this point, the surreal solutions are to really do something drastic to change these systems. So they work for people. But now, because you can't go that way, you just have to go further into the absolute absurdity of it on, like, what if we did a poem trying to blame immigrants? Right.

It's like, what the fuck? And I'll wear this like bedazzled jacket and there'll be balloons. Then I think, I think we might get through. Yeah. There's also, uh, Walmart has been like, we're, Walmart has signed a deal. There's a collabo between Walmart and the Grinch. And the Grinch is now played by Walton Goggins for some reason. And because of Walmart.

What's that? because of Walmart. I think that, like, when he first did that deal, it was, they were kind of, like, leaning on the Walt pun or Walpun. Oh, interesting. Not at all. Not interesting at all, actually.

Made my brain. I'm back. I'm back. I'm back. Yeah. Want to wait for a while. Great choice, Walton, is to be the face of Walmart. It's just,

every one of the things is, like, there was another one back in 2023 where the Grinch, like, steals everybody's Walmart goods. and then, like, he likes the stuff so much that it makes him have, like, a change of heart. He's like, man, this shit is so good. Like, consumerism is actually what is making my heart growth resizes, which seems kind of counter to the point.

It's, it's this heart growth medicine I stole, actually, and ended up being, that helped me a lot. Stole it back from undocumented people who were stashing it away in their house. Like so much of that shit falls apart, like the second you really just really like reality test your claim when you're like, okay, so houses are unaffordable because immigrants and why? So they're buying the houses? They have that much money? Where do they get the money? But they're buying the, but everyone in my neighborhood is like not an, wait, but how do I? It's distrusted.

It's the immigrants, okay? Even though they're not buying it, they make it more expensive by just, like, being here, dude. Yeah, facts. Anyways, the Grinch is, like, there's happy meals for adults with the Grinch. I think they're called Grinch Meals. Cool. Yeah, awesome. Wow.

I think it's, yeah, the Grinch fucking sucks now. I mean, like, not that, like, the actual Grinch story sucks, but, yeah, this overuse of it, because it has, like, just zero meaning now. And if it's a shorthand for, like, bad. Grinch thing. Because I think the other part of it is the people that I know who really like the Grinch are people who like like Christmas, but also kind of like they kind of have a torture relationship with like wanting to like Christmas, but also being like irritated by people that do. And they're like, I kind of fuck with the Grinch to be honest. Like in the end I'll come around. But like most of the time I'm like, what the fuck is all this shit? Damn the Grinch. Long live crampus. That's my motto. I think we need a new, a new bad guy. Telling you. Never seen a bad guy like this.

You don't have to wear as much makeup to get into the role. As a Christian, the bad guy for me is Santa. Move those letters around like the church lady told you. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And he drinks monster energy. I don't know if you remember that video, The Mark of the Beast, you know.

What was it? It was Hebrew for 666 or something. Yeah, she like turned the can upside down. She was like, you know, there was this Christian, well, we talked about it. like years ago this woman who thought like the monster energy drink was satanic and it was like it was the logo oh here here you don't here i got right here look at your m closely there's a gap right here in the letter m it's never connected so you go into hebrew so you're also the number six short top long tail short top long tail you could have here in hebrew

666 on the can. My interest is the word monster. Monster. What do you see in the O? There's a cross. What has Christ got to do with an energy drink, let alone the name monster? So I thought, well, maybe this is a Christian company then. BFC at the bottom of the can. Do you know what that stands for? That's the F word.

Big can. and thought they write it on the side of the cans. Oh, you got them. You got them dead to rights. I was actually on board for that. She kind of convinced me. She was spitting? She was kind of spitting, man.

Okay. Okay. That does look like 666 and Huber now that she points it out. It's the closest I think anyone has gotten. But then you got to find all this other stuff. Like, so why would there be a cross on the can? What does this have to do? It's like, well, hold on.

I thought maybe it was a Christian power. drink. Christian energy drink. Christian power drink. That's so funny the idea of a Christian power drink. That's a grift for sure. Anyways, I feel like the Grinch would would drink Monster Energy, right? It's great green, green coated. Maybe. Maybe so. Kind of the right vibe. He also seems like he has a sensitive stomach with that little heart, bro. He probably has to be careful because if that shit starts beating too fast, he'd be like, no, bro. I start getting palpitations. Mm-mm. I can't do that. If your heart grows three sizes in a single morning,

you need to see a cardiologist, brother. Tori, such a pleasure having you, as always, on the Daily Zykeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I am mostly on blue sky lately, honestly. I have low tolerance for Twitter these days. No, it's too much. over there. So, still Torreyglass, ToriGlass.orgas.b sky.

Social. Sometimes on Instagram, if you want to follow my personal Instagram, it's at ToriGlass as well. Pretty basic. Yeah. Amazing. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah. I'm so sorry. I don't have the attribution because of how I crop this.

But I think that it's, I think it was from Blue Sky. It says, look, all I'm saying is if three weirdo strangers showed up to see my baby carrying a bunch of spices and going on and on about how tender and mild he looks, we'd have a problem. So tender, so mild.

That's from John at this one over here.com. He's got out social. Hell yeah, thank you. Miles, where can people find you as there a work in media? You've been enjoying. You imagine you're standing over that range. You go, mm, tender and mild.

That's how I like my ribs. And they're like, what the fuck, bro? Like, please leave. Because you've got the spices and shit. you're like, let me put some cumin on this. They're like, what are you doing? Some frankincense. Um, yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray.

Uh, find me talking about football on Ain't It Footy. Uh, the new podcast I do with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin talking about the Premier League and other goings on in soccer while having just a good time, having a laugh. And trust me, a ton of bad English accents. Let's see. Well, like authentic. They have real British accents, don't there? Doesn't Chris?

Yeah, Chris is, but then I'll, but then I'll be saying shit to him to try and be like, that's okay, is okay? You just think his accent sucks. Bro, you should be talking like this, Mike. So, yeah. You have notes. A piece of social media I like is from at attackerman. com. It says my four-year-old calmly while coloring a picture of the Grinch.

If baby Grinches die, we can't eat them. They're clean. That's okay. I'm telling you the kids are obsessed with a Christmas bad guy. It's crazy. If babies and say this die, we can eat them if they're clean. That's okay. That's unbelievable.

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We're getting cozy. Hopefully you have some time off. And you can just just take a load off. And for that, it's more Oscar Peterson, actually. I just love listening to Oscar Peterson, just jazz. This time just hits different. So this is actually the track Wandering by Oscar Peterson from the album, motions and emotions.

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