The Daily Zeitgeist - They're Eating The Trends! 9/11: Presidential Debate, Taylor Swift, Elon Musk, Apple

Episode Date: September 11, 2024

In this edition of They're Eating The Trends!, Jack and special guest host Andrew Ti discuss the first Harris/Trump debate, Taylor Swift endorsing Kamala Harris, Elon Musk offering Taylor Swift one of his children (or maybe to put one in her?), Apple's poorly timed launch event and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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here to trend and we're here to trend andrew uh so much going on today uh first of all it's 9 11 happy 9 11 to you thank you and to you i'm with your spirit uh i do miss joe biden like yesterday before the debate he was like i'm feeling great tomorrow i'm doing 9 11 um and then tonight we got the debate uh and i was just like oh man that would have been that all we were talking about is that he was heading into the debate being like tomorrow i'm doing 9-11 and be like oh fuck but uh it's good good to have him back in the in the media uh and even better to not have him being the person uh who i was worried about in last night's debate you know yes um so uh the debate happened

um you watched every second twice you said yeah i watched it i watched it via Twitter impressions and my friends texting me like, holy shit. And I was at dinner. Right. Yeah. I had to rewatch it on DVR and while people's takes, like we were already like three levels deep on the, they're eating dogs memes by the time that I was watching it.

I, I just think that like shit like this and like award shows are actually the perfect it still remains the perfect use of twitter which is like you you really do get everything you need to know from twitter you really yeah you get you see the things that are going to be remembered from the debate being like solidified into like memories you see the other parts just kind of dropping away um there were like 15 minutes at the beginning where you know she seemed a little nervous he seemed like he was gonna be okay um but that's all gone. That's all gone. I do find myself going into these thinking like the mainstream media

where you watch the debate with one dumb eye trying to imagine how people who like Trump or are still undecided are watching this um where it's like and and yeah the immediate takes from the main cable channel like you know they're not cable channels the main network channels like i was watching on nbc and it was like i mean they both had moments that will probably resonate she successfully prosecuted the case that he's an unstable lunatic who posed an existential risk to the survival of

the nation uh and presented herself as reasonable and empathetic by comparison and he was uh taller and was like like wide awake the whole time like that really seemed to be the but you know they i feel like they need to they struggle to find their yeah to horse race it and they know also that it's no matter what happened it wasn't going to be a clear like there's no knockout punch happening so they have to just be like yeah and he's you know he's continuing to be trump um and there's nothing that could it's like like literally nothing could change this election shy of one of them dying on stage during right yes or both right like it's just like nothing will change nothing how could anything change it would be wild if anyone's opinion were swayed by tonight.

Yeah. And this debate was a great test of, of that because if anything, if it were possible for a debate to actually change something, I have to wonder if they're eating our pets, they're eating the dogs is going to like be so far over the edge of believability like so crazy email forward coded that people just have to like stop and be like wait what the fuck like yeah that's that like he's always he's always a lot like he he's a cartoon liar like people don't seem to mind that but even this felt like he was playing a liar on

tv in a performance that would be called like overly broad by a tv critic. I guess. To me, it's that like, he's always going to be like, like the dunk that I think I kept seeing on my Twitter was like, he's so like conservative media pill. He only makes sense to like people that are on like, you know, Fox News and worse all day long. Sure. But the thing is, he's only ever been that. Like, I just don't understand what that and that

these people think that there's a that this is a dunk or that there's like actual persuadable voters nine years into this shit like what what are you talking about like yeah of course he sounds like a racist facebook uh post but like right he never hasn't yeah like what difference does that make it's so wild wild to be part of the appeal, the charm. Yeah. But like, I feel like he made that look dumb last night.

He made that, you know, like dumber than he's ever made it. But every time, maybe that doesn't matter. How many times have we said this exact thing? He finally did it. It's like,

yeah, like this'll be the thing and i'm just like maybe but like we've been saying this since the clinton campaign and you're like it it hasn't hurt him yet yeah i mean i part of the bit with him is like how much he triggers people who like cared about their grades in high school, you know? Um, and like on some level they have to know that they're being constantly lied to.

And it's just like fun to see him tell the lie in a way. But like, I guess that is the, like Kamala Harris did seem unfazed by it a little bit and sort of able to manipulate it a little bit maybe yeah yeah i think that's i mean you wonder because it's like like the one of the reasons he ran rings around biden was biden was like first of all they probably like unfortunately share more opinions than i'd want to think about sure um and so it's like you know it's like the hay buster you're gone too far or i wouldn't say

like that was joe biden's like pov whereas like at least kamala was able to just be like like make the face of like this is crazy right right yeah like channeling a nation of people being like what yeah yeah like jim the office jim from the office face yes she was serving jim from the office a little bit but that smug look has been the problem for democrats for fucking over a decade yeah and i do think a lot of because there's a lot of people who are responding to this like it's over like that was in fact the knockout punch uh no and it's the exact same shit from the exact same point in the election that he won i know i know right i'm just saying like i like, I don't have enough data points either, but I'm like, I don't know.

This feels like exactly like we've been here before and it didn't go well. The Drudge Report, which has soured on Trump a long time ago, but like their headline was big letters, the end with an AI image of Trump sitting in a plane full of cats. Yeah, God. because of that line. Very stupid. But again, like hundreds of millions of Americans check that site every day.

And Lindsey Graham called it a total disaster. So like there, there are places that I've looked where it feels like people on the right are reacting to this debate, the way that people in the center reacted to the Biden debate. But I don't know. We'll, we'll have to see.

I think that the problem with the Biden debate was that it went against, um, like Biden's narrative. Whereas this is comfortably within Trump's narrative. Sure. Yeah. I think it's the thing. Like at least

biden was like oh at least we got a white guy that'll fucking stand up to trump like in a hay buster type of way yeah and when he couldn't do that it was like but it's like short of trump crying like right i just don't like like there's's nothing, his image is this. And this was more of it. Yes. I don't know. I, I just, you know,

again, as someone who didn't watch it, but I felt like the thing that might compel me to watch it is if a gambling market were, um, to have the balls to open up the, the, uh,

betting of whether he will say the N word on stage. Um, that's, that's what would take me to tune in yeah i don't know which side my money would be on the betting markets did move somewhat significantly for uh yeah which i was surprised in the aftermath yeah it's gonna revert right back to 49.9 50.01 yeah whatever like um but anyways the other big event happening in the presidential election immediately after was that taylor swift you know most americans might not have been persuaded by what they saw taylor swift was finally all right you know i've done my research yeah

guys i came into this debate not knowing who to believe uh you know i i think the timing was made it feel like that uh but yeah she she came out uh wrote a piece saying that she is now going to, she has made up her mind, she's going to vote for Harris Walls. The Harris Walls campaign immediately launched some Harris Walls friendship bracelets, a big piece of Taylor Swift merch, and those immediately sold out, which is kind of hard to believe because,

like, isn't the thing with friendship bracelets that they are so easy to make that like a six-year-old can make them jack jack jack jack jack jack jack jack no am i fucking up here my depths this is about this is about selling about eight cents worth of string and beads for $20. I guess. I mean, official... Yes. Sell the merch, raise the money. It's what we need, I suppose. Yes. And Trump

then the next morning, this morning appeared on Fox and Friends suggested that Swift will pay a price in the market for her endorsement cool not at all like the bad guy in an 80s movie for all your cool opinions you'll pay the price on the market yeah but and it's that's so weird too because it's like if there's one thing right-wing people are used to it's every artist that is good

hating them right like since when is this new like obviously any trump supporting taylor swift fans knew this like i i was there's of course hulk hogan uh one of my favorite artists in the 80s um did you see the jd van speech where he tried to make the joke he was like i mean did you see how cool that was we got hulk hogan at the rnc and he uh took off his shirt don't wear it i can't don't wear it that can't worry don't like you just couldn't get the joke out i'm not don't worry don't worry i'm not going to take off my shirt it's the joke thing from all right-wing people that's so amazing to me well speaking of which yes elon musk hopped in he was like oh so taylor swift signed her thing childless cat lady yeah which was a jab

at jd vance's general apparently main political platform which is he hates he hates women without without children that haven't given him a child. Yeah. So Elon Musk, after reading Swift's Instagram post. Normal good comedian Elon Musk. One of our finest said, fine, Taylor, you win. I will give you a child and guard your cats with my life. Oh my God.

We had a little disagreement off mic about what we thought he was doing here. I, I feel, um, cause I think he, this is his, it's so gross.

This is his version. I think of yes. And I think he thinks he's playing along with her. He's just so like such a rate, like right wing lunatic that he thinks i will give you a child is the right yes and to childless cat lady because he thinks he's playing along with har har i don't have a child and in his right-wing brain he's like oh but the the counter the the like the next step of that is but you want one by right yes like oh do you do you think he was offering her one of his many many children who's that voice

oh oh hey it's me brian the editor brian the editor is joining us what up brian the editor interject we are joined by just a little confused one of his many children or to put one in yes i think put one in her because yeah either are believable yes but i love this spin i love this bit of like he's just offering her yeah i got it i got too many damn kids yeah i will give you a child yeah no i guess part of the thing that grosses me out is like i will give you a child is like sounds like vaguely biblical like yeah i will make you with child unto all his in-cell bros think this is the most crying emoji shit you've ever like heard and it is like okay the pitch we were talking about beforehand is like this man i don't think this man well he does understand you know how cheap it is to hire very good joke writers right now like don't give

them any ideas could have a knockout amazing writer's room um and like and chooses not to yeah you offering your services andrew i'm just saying i mean all it would take is a million dollars a month um honestly it would you could do it for way less i think you could probably do it for free lunch every day for a decent number of LA comics. I still guard your cats with my let, like I could see that I will give you a child being like either a play on him having so many children or him being like a creepy fucking pervert. Yeah.

But then, and guard your cats with my life. It's just like, takes it back to like him being like desperate and sweaty he's a m'lady guy this is this is m'lady talk and this is straight up m'lady he only is well he first of all any chance he gets yeah he does put on a whack hat but like it's just that he has access to slightly more expensive hats but this is unambiguously m'lady talk that's who he is and like that's

why he's like this he's a fucking you know right wing 14 year old boy freak. Yeah. Grimes. It really like puts, puts Grimes is a decision-making to, it's a wild. Yeah. This is the game that works. All right. Let's, uh,

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Oh, yeah. Oh, hell yeah. Mainly, I mean, it's that you know stuff about tech. Also, you neg me every time I talk about tech. You're like, you sound like an old man who doesn't know shit about technology. You just sound a little confused sometimes. You know, as an old man...

I think he cares about the Apple announcements. As an old man who needs to learn about technology, has Apple got several products for you? I know. Oh, yeah. This is... I was excited other people may not have noticed but i was i had a google alert when is apple going to make a product that can monitor my sleep apnea and yeah uh i'm in business baby we're in the money um no so again like we said before the break just horribly timed um wild the day of the debate

and they did a big product launch i saw a couple headlines but andrew you had to like remind me that yeah they announced i mean it just got iphone 16 and and they also announced that ai no longer stands for artificial intelligence. Now it stands for Apple iPhone or Apple intelligence. It really is like intelligence. What a great like, I mean, as far as like taking shots, like trying to basically turn Apple into the Kleenex of AI is like what a bold move and i think it might work because no one wants ai as a on a consumer level right so it's just a right a thing that will allow people to interact with ai stuff but in a way that's less annoying. Yeah. And this is

typical of Apple. They take features that have existed on other platforms for quite some time, and they rebrand it with their own goofy name, and pretend like they invented it. This is their playbook. Yeah, that is

kind of their move. Take other people's technology uh cram it be really mean to a bunch of engineers until they can figure out how to cram it into your pocket i will give them this they tend to tend to have a little more polish when they do come out with something it's it's a little you know the integrations with their other stuff tends to be a little smoother it looks better than the competition I will agree. iPhones are shiny. And that has been my contribution to the conversation.

Yeah. I mean, the fact that they're using chat GPT instead of their own thing is like such a weird, like, oh, they're so behind because like, it feels like they wouldn't, if they could have, they would not have made a deal with chat GPT. Right. Well, that's the thing. Everybody made a deal with chat gpt right well that's the thing everybody made a deal with chat gpt it seems like every ai device is integrated with open ai yeah because they've already built the model and it's apparently really expensive and back to

the environment yeah to build these language models so i, I mean, that makes sense to me, but this is already something that, you know, Google and Samsung has already put out in the last year or so, all their AI integrations. And yeah, there's a lot of fatigue. So, yeah, to your point, Andrew, it seems like this, you know, just this little rebrand could help make it a little more palatable to be especially apple people yeah using this stuff again the the whole question with ai give me like three

things it can do that iphone can't currently basically they've added things like um certain photo features where you can add or remove things that were never in the photo um okay yeah like those google ads you like circled the thing it's basically they've reached parity with uh google and samsung with their ai features there's nothing okay they're not doing anything new they're just doing it the apple way that is like one of the more promising things i've heard ai doing is just making photoshop like kind of idiot like anybody can use photoshop anyone can photoshop a thing and you don't have to learn a tool you just like intuitively move things around but yeah they just added the same machine learning features that

other companies have already done and it's really they're just reaching parity same thing with like uh this apple airpods uh four launch which on its face is a little confusing but basically it is the base model uh airpods which are open ear design they don't have the silicon tips um and they are releasing two models they're releasing one without noise canceling and one with noise canceling, which basically they're achieving parity with Samsung because they just released some of these. Like active cancellation. Yeah, but they're open. So the noise cancellation is not going to be like what most people expect of noise canceling because your ear canal isn't sealed. So I'm expecting,

uh, mixed reviews on this sort of thing because there's, there's going to be some misunderstandings. People are going to buy this thinking that it's going, you're going to be able to get on a plane and block out all the sound. And that's just not the case with this form factor. Um, yeah,

but you know, they're trying to, they're trying to, it just generates with everybody else. Negative sound wave, right? Yeah. But it works a lot better.

The better passive noise canceling you have, like the more your, your canal is sealed, the better the noise canceling will work. So if you're, if your canal is sealed, it can only do so much sure and uh yeah like you know it's really this is i wouldn't call it catch-up but they're just

achieving parody with everybody else but just like because most people have iphones or because a lot of people have iphones it'll just be more present to them yeah yeah they have the uh the hearing aid uh functionality that was a small clip that i saw which is they made a big deal that it can be like uh like replace like the a hearing aid medical device which just to me i mean i know it's the they're like reaching out to like a broad audience but it just definitely started to feel like right this is boomer time like they're like the screen is so much bigger on the apple watch you can make the font humongous and like you can use this instead of your like medical hearing aid right well when you think about it

it kind of makes sense i know you're like kind of kidding but it's like the numbers on how many teens and young adults use iPhones is staggering so the only the only demographic they need to get is old people yeah young people don't use iPhones no young people overwhelmingly use already so more iPhones to the kids because they all have them so you gotta sell it to their parents and the grandparents and um and yeah like um once again this is achieving parity with uh samsung because they've had this feature for a couple years now and i i use it to for uh nerdy things

but um it works pretty well i use the diagnose like mechanical issues but it works pretty well. I use the diagnose like mechanical issues, but it works pretty well, I'd say. And Apple, they tend to like to get their medical sort of type things FDA approved. So I don't know what they're doing with that, but they tend to go pretty hard with this sort of stuff. I think they said in the thing that it was close or they were pursuing it or like FDA approval for the hearing aid. So, yeah, I feel like that would work pretty well. And, you know, my mom just got hearing aids and hearing aids are expensive, like the medical ones. So having this as an option is pretty cool. Yeah.

I just use an ear horn, like one of those horns, and make people speak into it. And that's actually pretty cool. Tell me, you urchin. What? The consumer branch of Sennheiser moved into this space a few years ago. And they're sort of adding those features to their products as well. So this is just where the market is moving, where they're kind of you know hearing aids and earbuds together uh sort of yeah there's gonna be like a larger group of very old people on the planet uh yeah for the next 30 years than has ever been true you know

especially if you slice it to what's the population that can afford iPhones. Yeah. It's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, they're not letting go of their money anytime soon. Yeah. I will say the one, they may have gotten me with the single AI thing that I actually want to use, which is on-the-fly AI emojis. I don't know what that means.

So the example they use in this Guardian article is like, you can type in cowboy frog and it'll put a cowboy hat on the frog emoji. And that is an emoji that you can put into like your texts or whatever. Oh, that's fun. Yeah. Yeah. And once again, achieving parody with the competition. Is that a thing that's already been out?

It's already been out. All of this stuff, this is kind of a nothing burger for me because this is just their playbook they they let everybody get out of the gate and then they pull up from behind and sort of quote-unquote perfect these things when they get around to it and once again pretend like they invented it yeah just steal the shit that's worth stealing essentially yeah which is not a bad thing to do you don't want to be first to market look at everything that you know like look at friendster look at uh you know all these things from the tech world being first is not the best thing you want to be you want to come in and crush it you don't want to be first necessarily so um yeah it's not a bad strategy this is this is i

i was like oh man all right they got me this is an ai thing that i i will actually use yeah yeah it seems no that's fun yeah but as i said as i said prior to us recording this is literally a trillion dollar solution to a ten cent. So probably not trillion dollar world melting solution. Yeah. I don't know. Maybe we could do this. Cowboy Frog? Okay. All right. Well, Brian,

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