The Daily Zeitgeist - This Aggression Will Not Trend, Man 7/28: Lindsey Graham's Warmongering, Venezuela's Missing $12b

Episode Date: July 28, 2026

In this edition of This Aggression Will Not Trend, Man, Jack and Miles discuss the upcoming documentary Lindsey Graham: Fun with Warmongering, what the rising cost of living really looks like, and investigate Venezuela and the Case of the Missing $12 billion.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And one thing you should know about me, I don't know shit. I'm just guessing over here. I don't know if Jern is like John for a different culture. As John is to Philadelphia, Jern is to X. Answer, S-A-T. Hey, let me see that John. Let me see that Jern. Let me see that Jern.

I kind of like that, actually. Jern-d-D-O. Great Discord name, Jern-Doh. that's Miles. We covered that. This is the episode where we tell you what is trending on this Tuesday, July 28th. First of all, got to say, Jack, it was your birthday yesterday. And I'm going to act like it's your fault I didn't remember it. You are so mad at me that I didn't come on with a fucking party hat on.

Dude, the second, I go, bro, no, Jack's birthdays around this time. And then when I just, we just got on the call, go, bro, when's your birthday? and you're like, it was yesterday. It was yesterday. The way I got, I said, you motherfucker. I got so angry. Well, that was because that should be directed at myself for not remembering, but I had to externalize it and act like it was actually your fault that I didn't have my.

Look, these are the skills you learn being a bad parent. This is how I win. Okay. Secret birthdays. I like to have a secret birthday and then just sit back and be like, these motherfuckers, they don't know. It's really my birthday. Well, anyway, happy birthday, dude.

I didn't tell my parents it was my birthday either. That's fucking stupid. Dude, I know your fucking, your mom loves you more than any mom could love a boy. Went so hard on my birthday. So lovely. I haven't been with my parents on a birthday in a long time. I am at my parents' house right now. Yeah.

But I feel like you're always kind of... We don't live in the same part of the country. But usually, you don't, you don't go to the shore around this time? Usually come right after it. Usually come right after. Well, look, you've got what? You got the same birthday as A-Rod, Tori Lanes, Triple H. Same birthday as a golfer.

I saw that as we were walking past a bar tell of it. Jordan Speath, maybe. Is that somebody? That is somebody. For sure. Yeah. Anyways, happy birthday to me. Yes.

Old as fuck. Anyways, happy birthday. It's Leo season, baby. Did you eat something good for your birthday? Yeah, I had crab fries, which fries with the crab seasoning, but also some crab on top. and we ate it a little restaurant. That would suck if it was crab fries. There's no crab.

I'm like, well, we just put old bay on it. So it's crab seasoning. They're like, you can't call that crab fries. That's not. I had some crab cakes. Oh. Not usually this crab heavy, but that's what I was craving yesterday. Okay.

Feeling a little crabby because my good friend Miles forgot my fucking birthday. But anyways. Jack, you have to be insufferable like I am with my birthday. I think that's the thing is you, I mean, do you know, does anyone have the exact same birthday? Like, who's your legit birthday twin? There's got to be someone out there. I don't know.

I don't think there's nobody that is as impactful as Prince Harry is to you. You've got a couple, don't you? Yeah, but on the day, it's only Prince Harry. Right. On the day of, like a booy, yo-yo-yo-yo-yo. Maya Rudolph was born the same day as me, but nobody famous on the same year as me. Well, no, I'm seeing there's a Malaysian fashion designer, Ms. Nina. Oh, Ms. Nina.

Was born on your birthday in July of 1980. 1980. Nelson Cruz. 9 8 a 0. Dominican Republic born U.S. baseball player. Dolph Ziegler? Dolf Ziegler. Jack. Professional wrestler, Dolph Ziegler.

Aren't you talking about that, dude? I don't know who it is. You and this guy would bro down so fucking easy. man. Dolph Ziegler, American professional wrestler. Born in Cleveland, Ohio. I've always said never met a person from Cleveland I didn't like, but I've only met like five.

Yeah. Also, high probability that idolizing a wrestler, probably not. It's always gone well for me before. Yeah, yeah, right. Anyways, it is July 28th, 2026, aka too late, wish me a happy birthday. And this is the episode where we tell you what is Trent. I'll tell you what's trending upwards is these dang grocery prices. We've been talking about this a lot.

That's just like your opinion, man. Yeah. What are you saying? It feels like it's migrating from people posting their old receipts and trying to replicate them and being like, wow, this is twice as expensive as it used to be to now the AP is even writing about it. They put a diagram together showing the cost of food prices. from like 2012 to 2019, it was fairly flat.

It was a total of like a 4% increase over that time. And over the equivalent number of years since then, it has gone up 40%. It's fucking crazy. 40%. Yeah. Just skyrocketing my skyrocketing. It's always, I always use like the $50 test, kind of. That's usually my benchmark.

of like what I used to be. I remember like what I could get for like 50 bucks. Like 2019-ish to now it's like three apples, a couple rolls of toilet paper, some aluminum foil, yogurt, and then I'm out. And you're good. And you're good for a couple weeks there. That should be plenty. I will say this is not as drastic in certain.

I think they compare St. Louis and San Francisco. And San Francisco, it's like way more. where so the not large cities not large coastal cities are bringing the average down but like it nets out it right around 40%. Super producer Catherine is saying 40% still seems too low and I think that's that's right. I mean I think for full transparency obviously Super Producer Catherine is invested in a lot of grocery chains as a stock so that's I think I agree. I don't think she's saying they haven't raised their price is enough. I think she's saying that the 40% figure is not accurately depicting how much, how much prices have gone up. You thought she was like, and frankly, they should have been raising

their prices more. Nah, no, I don't like this. The line can go up even more aggressively. It is interesting to like read them, talk about this, like write about this in the mainstream media because they're like, I mean, arguably, people have the ability to withstand this, but they have long memories and they pay attention to how much stuff costs. This is so fucking offensive, man. The people that are informing the masses of what their reality is aren't even living in the same fucking reality. Yeah.

And they're like, yeah, you can absorb that. You're already paycheck to paycheck. What's the cost of your fucking food going up 40%? What could that possibly do to your living conditions? They do have a fun little. saying because a thing that we've been noting for years on this podcast is that when there's a story that causes the prices to go like there's a war, there's, you know, a pando. Pando. Pando, pando, pando, pando. Pando. Pando. The prices go up. But then when those situations are

no longer happening, prices don't go down anymore. And in fact, prices almost never go down according to this chart. And they said that it's the rockets and feathers effect, Miles. Oh. Prices go up like a rocket, but they fall like feather. They stay up there. They don't, they shoot up and then they don't fall. It's like the opening of Forest Gump.

It's like the opening of Forest Gump. And that is such is capitalism. Yeah. And you will die before the feather comes down and reaches you, just so you know. They give two explanations for why that is. For one thing, retailers are reluctant to lower prices on inventory. They ordered when wholesale prices are high, were high. So, okay, that would explain like a, maybe a lag in the prices coming down.

I could see that. It's a feather. Yeah, feather, a lag. But if you look at this chart that they published, the prices have not gone down. Like, they went down for a split second after the initial pandemic and then went up way, way, way more. once all those supply chain issues were over. The other one, and this sounds more like it, stores and food companies also want to maximize their profits and were reluctant to give up some of the sales gains they saw after the pandemic. That is the most charitable way to describe that.

Yeah. They noticed they were having record profits and said, we want to do that more. let's see how much pain we can put these people through without them stopping buying groceries. Can they just underline the fact that neither explanation is existential to this business? Right. You know, it's like they're not being like, oh, golly, what are we going to do? If we lower the prices, we're going to go out of business, George. Like, they are still making money.

They are still profiting. They're really just deciding how much they want to continue. new profiting off of people who can barely afford their goods. All we needed to see was that prices shot up after the pandemic. And then at the next quarterly earnings reports, they were like, guys, fucking record profits. Okay. Like, that's where we got the disconnect between how people were feeling, which was like it was a recession depression.

and then what the stock market was doing, which was like an all-time rally. And it's like, yeah, well, that's going to happen when corporations have more rights than people and are able to just, you know, put us in a fucking arm bar and just shake us until money stops coming out. And it captured media that won't even come near the truth

as to explaining what is going on, you know, rockets and feathers and shit, It's called the Rockets and Feathers Effect. Yeah. It's called, they're calling it the Rockets and Feathers Effect. I'm surprised in that article. It's like we spoke to one CEO who said, I couldn't believe the profits. It's like these fuckers love food and medicine or something.

They can't get enough of this shit. What the fuck are they talking about, man? This is so fucking upsetting. And again, like so much of the shit that ails us is just because the people who don't live on fucking the ground like the rest of us are out here the ones who are like creating the narratives in the media to be like, well, it's just like

people can weather it. It's the rockets and feathers. No, it's just untethered greed and everyone is suffering from it except for the people in these sea suites and all their, you know, shareholders who are like, yes, yes. And eventually, just so you know,

you see all these wealthy people like, well, we're going to have to insulate ourselves from when the fucking pores lose it and realize what the game is. You better figure something out quick because I honestly don't know how much longer people are going to be able to continue this and act like they're able to afford gas that's exponentially high. Fucking electricity utility costs that have only got up further because of fucking data centers. That's another thing they said in the article. They're like, one problem might be that everything else is getting more expensive too.

It's like, well, yeah, no shit. It might be. It's an omni crisis. Yeah. They do get to the part where they're like, and don't worry, things seem like they might be choosing to eventually fix themselves. Hammery said the feather may be starting to fall as big retailers invest in price cuts. They invest in price cuts. In early July, Walmart said it was rolling back prices on ground beef, corn, red cherries, ice cream, potato chips, and Coca-Cola Pepsi products.

Target also cut prices on some foods in March. Oh. I haven't noticed. But when it's time to talk about prices coming down, it's like, you know, a hunter-gatherer tribe speaking of like some hoped-for rainfall that might happen in the future, you know? But like everything else is just like, well, this is inevitably the gravity of how capitalism works. Without saying that. If you don't agree with that or if you think that you should do something to change that,

you're being childish. And you probably think Trump is a pedo protector. Right. Did you see that clip where Trump was at that rally and someone heckled him and goes, Petto Protector, Trump goes, he's a communist. She's got it. He's got it. Ready to go.

Thoroughly owned. Let's see. What else is happening? A lot of a fucked up stuff. There've been 221 people killed to date by those drone attacks on boats in the Caribbean by U.S. military drones. What's it called like Southern Spear or something? Yeah.

So the drop site just published a story about how one of the prosecutors investigating. So one of the cases was the like a boat full of people that were attacked by a drone and like 10 survivors were kidnapped, tortured on a boat by people dressed in U.S. military uniforms. and then two of them were released in Ecuador and were like working with a prosecutor to address this. And one of those prosecutors was just assassinated last week in Ecuador, like a woman who like while leaving a cafe after she was like moved off the case was assassinated.

So Ecuador has a right wing politician in charge who is just like a U.S. backed dictator named Danielle Noboa. who's a Miami-born billionaire. Jesus. Also, like, it was people just wearing U.S. military uniforms, not necessarily like... That's what we know. Are y'all military? They're like, the way they're described American gunmen in U.S. military uniforms. Yes.

Aboard a U.S. flagged patrol ship. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense, too, because you have all this chaos going on. And now people, just like with ice raids, people are like, fuck it, bro, just slap a fucking stars and stripes on the shit. No way to know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it.

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It's a very end times newsday, I will say. AI companies have been revealed to be, this was caught a lot of people's attention on Twitter. This article that reveals that AI companies are basically, they had this realization that books, present shareholder value in the form of training tools. There's a lot of a reasoned argumentation that has structure and that can be used to train their AI.

And so what they've been doing is they've been ingesting them by chopping off the spine, scanning every page in the book, front and back, and then destroying, just pulping the remnants of these books that are, in many cases. is like they're buying them from used bookstores and valuable bookstores that are like rare one of ones that they're like all right we got that one get the fuck out of here all right that's nancy drew get another one loaded up they're destroying rare books for this yeah yeah yeah do we have any idea like how rare we're talking like is it from a collector's stammer it's not like a Gutenberg bible or something no i don't think i don't think they're going out of their way to

do the most valuable but but who knows might it might just like make them horny, like, to do that. I mean, it's, it tracks. It's like book burning. Yeah. Well, but I mean, it's just tracks with the sort of disposable nature of like how all this stuff works. Like, they don't even see human creativity as something of value. So it's like, it's like, it's purely an input. It's like, yeah, man.

It's like, it's like, it's like coal. You throw in the fucking steam engine. That's right. And then you just burn it and then it makes the fucking locomotive go forward. Towards hell. Mm-hmm. So anyways, people are all up in arms about this. I don't really get it, but, you know.

Yeah, people should be up in arms. Destroying. People should be literally up in arms. What does that mean? Up in arms means like you're getting the strap, right? If you're saying people are up in arms. I just always pictured people waggling their hands crazily above their head. Oh, or someone may be lifting you up in their arms? Oh, that could be fun. Yeah.

Up in arms. Well, it literally meant taking up weapons in historical armed rebellion. Sure, sure, sure. No, no, no, no. Sorry, sorry. We're not doing that AI. We're going to change that. We're going to change that up in arms means...

Being critical of AI is a terroristic impulse that we need to tamp down in ourselves. When you're up in arms, it means you're going to your homeboy who's got arms like Christmas hams. And just getting in there being up in those arms, feeling safe. Can you hold me up in those arms? You know, it gets me up in arms at night. me up in arms, please. Completely pacified people. On my knees and then do open my hands and close them and say up in arms.

No, no, no, no. It doesn't mean you're taking up arms in a rebellion. No, no, no, no. It means you want to retreat into the warm embrace of the state of your home. Up in their arms. Yes. Yeah, being anti-AI is terroristic. Being pro books.

if now, you know, that probably is an indicator that you're a terrorist. So just watch it. Yeah. Watch it, assholes. Should we talk about Venezuela? Yeah, I mean, it's a lot has happened since Trump blackbagged Maduro and then made the gray Nike tech suit a hit with the swagless MAGA crowd. There was obviously like two devastating earthquakes that took over like 5,500 lives and tens of thousands injured. billions in structural damage.

And you think in any normal country that wasn't just taken by force, the government, we'd be like, okay, we have funds that we need to release in order to help those in need, begin rebuilding. Sadly, the U.S. has made Venezuela a vassal state and is stealing their money.

This is something Trump was asked about a few days ago where they're like, hey, man, you're talking about, like, what happened to that $13 billion that the U.S. had from Venezuela, like, where'd that go? Like, is that still a thing? Is that available to which Trump kept being like, huh? The what? He starts off like his answer where he keeps talking about. I was like, oh, well, it's very good because the invasion paid for itself. It's like, that's not the concern, dickhead. But later on, he keeps rambling. It's paying for itself. It's paying for itself.

And then someone like the reporter is, like, no, where is the $13 billion you said you got from selling Venezuelan like where is that? What is happening with it? And his answer is just like he clearly doesn't even care to like lie so he's just like, eh, I don't know, it's like going to stuff. And now as you know, we have a very good relationship

with Venezuela. Where is the money going? Where's the money going? Running the country. No, it's the money that the U.S. is taking in. Where is that money going? Where's the money for? Running the country. It can go to the military. Congress has to

approve it. Congress isn't like approving money for the military. They like giving it to things that shouldn't be done. So they're like, no, what happened to it? Hey, Megan is going towards running the country. No, no, no, like, where is it? I actually have a story about my favorite congressman that will put this into perspective. He called his wife on the phone. And she said, when you get home, I want you to come up the stairs and don't be your pants. I can only do one. For people, I can only do one. Sorry.

He, he, he. Yeah, so it's like going towards running the country. The last we heard from like a CMO4 investigation was that it was being put in an account in Qatar who famously has the interests of the Venezuelan people at heart. Yeah. By being like, yeah, we'll hold it here completely on the other side. The country has nothing to do with Venezuela. Yeah, we'll hold your money, Donald Trump.

So now Trump is sucking the resources dry from America's new colony and also running foreign policy as we saw with Venezuela's recent announcement to withdraw from the ICC. Obviously, the Trump administration has been talking nonstop shit about the ICC. Now it's run by crazies. But that's only because obviously America and its allies have a nasty habit of committing crimes against humanity. Oh, ICC. the ones who are international criminal court. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, they're talking shit about BB.

It's like, guys, like, it's so annoying. And then they're trying to say stuff about, like, the Iraq War. I actually hear they're crazy. They're like, I see C. No, I was talking to BB. They're actually crazy, I heard. They're haters. They have, like, they're so crazy.

Like, they can't see past their hate. They're blind with hate. So, yeah. When he said running the country the first time, he did a gesture with his hands that was like, like, it was a close. closest to being a jack-off hand motion that you can get without doing the jack-off. It was like a flip, like yada, yada. The direct translation of the fuck off.

The gestures he made was, what the fuck you want me to say? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, he's going towards running the fucking country. To run in the country or whatever. No one asked me that. It was a or whatever. It was the hand gesture equivalent of a or whatever. So, yeah, I think the U.S. would rather not have an internationally recognized

courts say things like you are doing war crimes so you can see that influence with venezuela now being like yeah actually we're not doing we're not we're going to withdraw from the icc Venezuela was also under investigation by the iCC for violence against protesters like this investigation went back from like 2021 but them leaving doesn't stop the investigation but a huge part of the iCC being able to function is having state cooperation so having country be like nah we're off this for all the people that are still in power and we're wondering what happens when Trump takes over maybe part of it is like, hey, dude, well, you know,

those consequences, no longer a threat. Just do what we say. And welcome to the United States. You are now a vassal state. And we do have to talk about the fact that Lindsay Graham being eulogized as we speak. Yeah, as we speak. It's really, it's unbelievable.

As we speak, his piss box is chilling in the capital rotunda. and all the other war-mongering freaks they gather to send him off to the big toilet in H.E. Double Hockey sticks. It's funny, though, that the day before he's laid to rest, the documentarian Alex Holder, who was the same guy that made that in-death documentary about the 2020 presidential campaign when he was talking like Roger Stone and like, that guy had all this access. And be like, what the fuck is this shit? He just handed footage to the Wall Street Journal from a new documentary he's working on about Lindsay Graham. And in the clips that have made public so far, it's just so painfully clear that Graham is just a bloodthirsty maniac who loves a little bit of war. Yeah, he's like so casual about it. He's so just like he thinks it's hilarious.

Miles, it's like us sitting around talking about the LeBron trade. Oh, yeah, 100%. That is the energy. It's like, I just can't believe he actually went through with it. It's my, it's, it's my greatest dream. I can't believe this. I got to text, I got to text Beebe. I know he's loving this.

Yes, straight up. Like me being like, I got to text Blake Wexler. Right, exactly. Yeah. Okay, here's, here, here's a little bit of Graham reacting to the, uh, the start of the Iran war. Look what we've done here. I know. I almost cried.

Yeah. I mean, like, how long have we been pushing this? Well, you've been pushing this for years, right? Right. It's here. I talked of Trump this morning. Oh, he's Jack. He's the best thing I've ever done.

Best thing I've ever done. He loves, he loves blowing stuff up. So, you know, there are a lot of people inside didn't want to do it. So I've had my challenges. But President Trump, when he gets into the zone, the zone, as we listen, ask good questions. When he gets into the zone right around 6 p.m. You're able to just make him do whatever the,

You can just, bro, you can get him to do all kinds of shit. There's a call with him. He loves blowing stuff up. This is a call with him and BB Netanyahu where, dude, they are the casualness in which they're talking about getting America to bomb Lebanon to your point, Jack. It sounds like the energy where you're trying to get your homies to, like, put in on concert tickets. Right. Like, hey, there's a Kendrick show.

You want me to get those tickets? Yeah, okay, okay, okay. This is him talking to Netting Yahoo about bombing fucking Lebanon. Do you have it on speaker, Ryan? Yeah, we're good. Okay, all right, connecting you now. Hello. Hey, baby, Lindsay.

Hey, Lindsay. Hey, Lindsay. I couldn't, I'm just so impressed. Glad to be your friend. What? I'm glad you are, my friend. I'm going to meet with the president this weekend. I'm going down to Doral.

I'm going to try to get him to join with y'all in Lebanon to maybe fly some with you. Would you like that? That is just the craziest sentence. Get him to fly something with you? I'm trying to get him to join with y'all in Lebanon. Like you're going to a restaurant? Yeah. And then...

Would you like that? And then really framing your subordinate sort of relationship. Yeah. Would you like that? Would you like that, Daddy? That's great. Yeah. I get that.

I think you have a point. But I've been thinking about the other side. for a second. We're concentrating right now on the bomb. If we tell his Baba that we're going...

Then they're just talking like he's like well it's not existence like dude we can always go back to bombing Lebanon we don't have to press that right now which is just so

so fucking grim dude but again this shouldn't be surprising based on what we know their public remarks are and the influence that they have but it is wild to see people back channeling

with Netanyahu without such casualness this is an interesting part though because the documentarian said towards the end Lindsay Graham was getting exhausted and like was telling him he was barely sleeping because he was just so hell bent on keeping the Iran war going. This is a clip of him after a few months lamenting. I think this is from June like so a month before he died where you can tell he's a little bit, he's zapped

energetically and he's like lamenting that Trump won't go harder on the war. Iran, he's letting this thing slip away. We had him on the ropes and his indecisions coming back to hurt us. I got to go talk to him, you know. Open up the streets, keep the pressure on. Unleash Israel to hurt him, and maybe you'll get a better deal. Unleash Israel to hurt him. So you're seeing all the different fucking just angles of all this.

He again, like I said, you can tell from that energy he was like, oh, I might cry. And now he's like, he got to get him. He got the thing that he always wanted, that he had been pushing for for his whole, life without ever questioning if it was a terrible fucking idea he gets it, it turns out to be a terrible fucking idea and it kills him. Yeah, and it's

crazy too because he also talks like there's another clip of him talking about the timeline. He's like, it's going to be over in about three or four weeks. I can tell the early days, in the early going. He's like, oh, it's all happening. Oh, this is going to be easy. Yeah. And then Trump called into Fox and Friends

to be like, oh, Lindsey Graham. Apparently Donald Trump has been really obsessed with Lindsey Graham's death. He's been asking if, like, if, like, what people, why they think he died? And if maybe he was, like, genetic. Yeah, exactly. Stan Chera. 100%.

But then this is him, quote, unquote, eulogizing him on Fox and Friends. He's been like, he's never met a bomb. He didn't want to fuck or something like that. I mean, Lindsay liked war, to be honest with you. Okay. And I said, you're a nice guy. How come you like war so much? It was a guy that liked war.

I jokingly say, and it's nothing. funny about it, but he's never seen a war that he didn't like. Okay, so, yeah, that's not to mention... Jokingly say. Joking, you're giggling while this war you fucking unleashed in Iran killing

thousands of innocent people. You bombed a school. Yeah. But it's like, he made a war you never like, hey, baby, should we join you, Lebanon, Judge. Judge. Fucking Craven motherfuckers. So yeah. Yeah, man. This, apparently this documentary is going to be

coming out the next few months. Just a lot of footage. All right, rest in piss to a real one. All right, rest in piss, harder, bozo. Harder. All right, those are some of the stories that are trending on this Tuesday, July 28th. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other.

Be kind to yourself. Get your vaccines while you still can. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. Ha.

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