The Daily Zeitgeist - TikTok Causing Tics? Brave Director Legitimizes Conspiracies 9.7.21

Episode Date: September 7, 2021

In episode 983, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian You Can Tell Me Anything host Teresa Lee to discuss Gen Z developing tics from the internet, how to help women in Texas, the movie Moonfall, and more!FOOTNOTES: Help Crowdfund Teresa's Short Film! Was It an Invisible Attack on U.S. Diplomats, or Something Stranger? Gen Z Is Developing Unexplained Tics After Going Online, And Doctors Are Concerned ‘They’re Hunting Us’: Texas Abortion Mutual Aid Fund Prepares For Effects Of New Law Fuck it. Let's get nuts. Abortion funds and beyond: Here are the best ways to help Texans Moonfall: Exclusive Official Teaser Trailer (2022) Halle Berry, Patrick Wilson, Roland Emmerich Moonfall is a disaster movie about the Moon falling Moonfall Looks Like Roland Emmerich's Loudest, Dumbest Disaster Movie Yet Midway: A Conversation with Director Roland Emmerich What If a Large Asteroid Were to Hit the Moon? LISTEN: Little Simz - Two Worlds Apart (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Oh, Jack, he's the boss baja blast on top he's getting great views on his havana tiktok miles gray make the funny see miles gray gets the 420 biking here i go eating like i know drip on my shoes and my back and i'm a virgo cuz we are the tdz okay that's's the Aqua Teen Hunger Force theme song To all that No shout out to Hank Scipio Who came in real quick After the trending episode He said oh we're talking about Aqua Teen

How about a whole fucking AK So love that one And also shout out to School E.D. Who's the original artist behind that Yeah yeah Well Miles We are thrilled to be joined by a very funny comedian and writer Who has written for Good Mythical Morning, Cracked Reductress.

And on season three of Brockmire in 2020, she created the show Comedy Quarantine, which ran over 200 shows in 10 months and raised $20,000 for mutual aid and was voted social distance comedy show. Are you reading my website? Number one by timeout la uh she co-wrote the short film i think she likes you which played at tribeca film festival she hosts the great podcast you can tell me anything released her debut album we're still doing this in april recorded live on zoom she's just one of our favorite guests on tdz one of your favorite guests. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Teresa Lee. What's up? Oh my gosh.

That was mortifying, you reading my website. But I do have an AKA. All right, bring it. Here we go, okay? All right, it's Teresa Lee, AKA. In mid-Philadelphia since Tuesday in the hotel. I potted most of my stay, filling out emails, no time for the pool,

keeping my mask on. Cause those are the rules. When a couple of texts told me there's a flash flood started by a tornado in the tri-state neighborhood. This Texas abortion law got me feeling all scared. I'm tired of feeling like my government is way beyond repair. Oh, okay.

Wow. Okay. Also don't, don't do the, don't be so, uh, you know, humble that you can't handle people bigging up your accomplishments. You know what I mean? I didn't read that off your website. I didn't read that off your website. That's just word on, I just asked some people, I asked who is Teresa Lee and that's what I got from them people. I asked, who is Teresa Lee? And that's what I got from them. It was just head out the window. He said, hey, hey, hey, you. That's just common knowledge. All right. All right.

Thank you so much, Jack. Yeah, yeah. Welcome, welcome. Yeah. How is Philadelphia? Did you see any tornadoes while you were there? Did you look out the window? We did.

Well, I'm traveling with my dog and my boyfriend. And I was supposed to do the punchline on wednesday night and and then like a random bar show and like we got these warnings on my phone that all of our phones were like flash flood tornado all this and i was like hey maybe we should head out soon and he just gave me the weirdest look like uh did you see the warnings like it's probably gonna be like i don't think people are going out at all and i was like oh this is when you realize comedy's a disease because at no point was i like oh maybe i should cancel it was like oh since they didn't cancel i better get going and he was like i thought the plan was everyone stay inside we

gotta beat that tornado traffic dude we gotta get out there we did the show the punchline show did get canceled i did end up going to the bar show because my friend actually blake who's been on the show blake wexler very funny ran that show we did walk through quite a bit of rain it was fine everyone's safe but i did realize like this is not worth it what are we doing you know with our lives um but fortunately we did not get lost in the tornado. Okay, good, good. Well, we are happy to have you here safe and sound in the indoors. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're talking about something called

functional disorders that may be behind the TikTok tick that people are coming down with, as well as Havana syndrome. We're going to just ask the question, what can we do for women in Texas? We'll talk about the new trailer for the movie Moonfall. Yeah, we got to talk about that. Hell yeah. Fucking hell. All of that.

Plenty more. But first, Teresa, we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history well okay this is gonna be for you know people who know me i say confusing things every time i come so i'm maybe i don't even have to explain this but is the embolic accord the tower of babel yeah no that's self-explanatory. Wow. I, okay. I won't get too into it. As you know, I like to fall asleep to edibles, but this became a very clear thought in my mind.

And I thought, surely this must be like, I'll Google it and it'll be, you know, at the very least a QAnon something, you know, but it's not, it's not like common knowledge, but it just feels like it makes sense to me because you're born speaking okay to be honest don't judge me but i started doing this thing not on purpose but i like in half a sleep state like i go into baby talk i don't like it okay i've never been a fan of adults who do baby talk but it's like when i'm almost like half asleep you know when you're like

almost drunk because you're so sleepy you're like i started talking like a baby and i was like i wonder if babies when they're born they speak the universal language and then we start learning so much that we change what we know and that's why we think about the tower of babel being this like tower that gets knocked down but actually when you're a baby you're connected and then it gets cut and then you're like cut away from the source. So that's where that came from. I was trying to like explain to myself and feel better that I wasn't like deteriorating into Benjamin Button. But alas, I think that might just be one of those weird unhinged Teresa thoughts because I didn't really see a community of believers out there. You're like Googling like somebody else has thought this, right?

I feel like the symbology is, I mean, like in the Noah's Ark, the water breaking. I mean, come on. It's all there. Oh, hell yeah. But the Babel's post-flood civilization. Yeah, true. But after you're out of the womb, the cord gets cut. Right, right.

And so that was the post-flood world trying to get to God by building the... Yeah. You can't go back up your mom's vagina. You've got to keep living. Dangerous quote. Yes. I think this is something very interesting.

And I love this kind of thinking where you're really taken to the point where you're like nah like there there could be like this universal thing that we were all in touch with but then the second we enter the physical outside of the womb world that that's the confounding moment where god confuses us scatters us across the world i's i will say as weird as that sounds if you look at pictures of astronauts floating in space they do look like they got that little cord yeah yeah yeah i like how you're doing you're basically doing a landscape check that someone does before they start a cult you know you're like all right anybody else oh nobody's fucking with okay i got this one then come one come all to my new uh babbleography i call yeah i call this cult uh so this one is all

about building people up and there's no ponzi scheme which is gonna fail it's a failed cult yeah yeah you gotta have a ponzi scheme come on come on theresa guys would rather spend their entire life becoming an astronaut and float in space than fix their relationship with their mothers. Am I right? I mean, I've said it before. Am I right, ladies? We're just all little sperms trying to go to space. You know, it's like, just wait.

It'll happen. Don't be the one that, don't pre-ejaculate Earth. You know, you don't need to be the pre-come of Earth. Yeah. Jeff Bezos. Who actually looks like a sperm jeff bezos is the pre-come of earth yeah yeah i can just see you now people laying flowers at your feet and you're just sitting there like in a big throne like not speaking and then like above you is a banner that says don't be the pre-come of earth and they're like yeah it's honestly wise words uh yeah i like this vision you have mild you said it not me yeah that's fine and i'll be like uh what was the other woman who was really running homeboy shit in wild wild country oh remember

there was the woman behind the scenes that was really right pulling stunts and that could be our relationship too just we'll talk off air sheila thank you super good i know you remember that because i was like we're like she's the goat yeah and then the other guy just got to be a junkie and like chill and be high the whole time so who really won that uh oh yeah maybe we should switch that you know i mean i'm gonna go on record and say i'm anti-cold i'm you know because these days everything's taken i'm anti and i'm definitely pro non-cult okay any way you want to spin that but i am pro give me money i'm pro give me money and think for yourself i'm pro yeah yeah i'm pro cult money yeah yeah yeah if on your own you want to give me money and follow everything i say that's on you it's not me it's

called a patreon yepies apparently cry in different languages. And I don't know if it's like the second they come out or if it's like an adaptive behavior, but like acoustic analysis of baby cries find that newborns whose mothers speak tonal languages such as Mandarin tend to produce more complex cry melodies uh swedish newborns that have pitch accent have more sing-songy cries and then american cries are just you know flat and metallic fried fried and mcdonald's grease yeah it's akin to rob zombies dragula that makes me feel good because like i want to be like, I'm not like most babies. I'm complex.

I cry. Yeah. Complex tones. Miss me with that sing-songy cry. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? You know, I don't have one today. I thought about this and I'm on this like new, not new, but lately I've been like trying to just like re-challenge the binary in my

head like things aren't good or bad black or white which we know but i really actually often do have things i'm like that's overrated and this time i couldn't think of one so i was like nothing everything is rated like some things i don't like but in my head they're not overrated they're just like rated poorly and that's right right so i got none today i'm happy with maybe overrated for me you know weird meta way is just like needing to find the bad in anything. Sure. Some things are just fine. Wow.

I think. Yeah. So just dunk on the whole show. No, I think that I'm on a different, you know, maybe I'm speaking a different language. I might just be on a higher plane than y'all. I think that's fine for you. You know, I'm not judging y'all. Miles twisting my words look that's how i start my cult you know that's how that's how i get them what uh what's something you think is underrated okay here's where i'm gonna lose the audience

because i don't think because i okay because i've been so avidly for so long against crowdfunding. I just started a crowdfunding campaign and I was so like ready to just hate it and like be biting my teeth through the whole thing that I like did everything I could to prepare myself. Like almost like I'm, you know, preparing for like a colposcopy or something. I'm like, it's going to suck, but I have to do it. But it started this week and it's been really positive experience. So I feel bad for all the times I just judged people for doing it. For crowdfunding? of them were like it really is just getting over your shame and i'm like all right we'll get over the shame and then the part that i didn't realize that was great is being able to build your audience before the film is out so i'm already building like followers who liked my stuff uh whereas

with my last tour we i really was like keep it under wraps until it's in a festival then announce it and that seemed cool at a time, but then we were like, Oh, scrambling to, you know, figure out how to get people to come see it and get it out there. And there's, I don't know, I think that my pride, uh, I had to just squash it. And now I realize the benefits of crowdfunding aren't just to get it funded, but it's to find community and like actually create an audience together. So don't know i like it so far we'll see if i actually make my goal i might be crying in four weeks you'll be fine we're gonna we'll put the information so we could all contribute obviously yeah yeah thank you that is why i'm

here no i'm just kind of yeah every story we talk about after this you might yeah yeah but here's the thing about my short film yeah did you put your put the script out there what how much are you giving to people versus like holding withholding because i'd imagine that's like a balance right yeah so i did take a look at other people's campaigns and went through it's i do it through seed and spark and they do a really good job of like they have a very inclusive filmmaking community. And they also have like these like online videos, which at first I was like, I don't want to watch it. But then I did. And they're great. And they give you tips on like best practices. So I didn't I didn't put the script

out. But I kind of explained the story pretty much through it's not like there's a huge twist or anything. But right, I figured, you know, a lot of people are going to still watch it for the first time. And then the people who want to be a part of making it i think they should know what it is but yeah i mean it's a comedy and it has comedians in it so i think people know the the actors like vanessa gonzalez megan gailey there's a ton of great people in it so yeah so people see and they know who they are and they know me so right i think they're supporting like us but sure yeah very cool yeah getting over that shame though whoo yeah can't tell you how much my therapy goes into that shit especially you know it's different it's all many cultures have their version but asian shame is like a whole other shit i've had

to like really navigate to be able to sort of liberate myself emotionally from things that i was putting in my own head from growing up in a very shame-based culture. But yeah, I'm glad to hear you overcame that in order to really embrace something that's for you and something that's going to enrich your life. Thank you. All right. We'll look in the show notes for a link to information about Teresa's short film and how you can get involved with helping her make it. We are going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your

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Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back um and miles you uh brought this article and vice to my attention about people who are developing yeah it's sociogenic also called functional disorders i've called them psychogenic before because you know that's what they're referred to in some places because the cause tends to be located in the brain but it's it's basically people who are developing tics based on who they follow on tiktok who and like people they follow on tiktok having tics and like that the article also talks about people who can read an article about someone with MS and then start developing the symptoms of MS. So like similar kind of cognitive basis for physical illnesses. And this hit at the same time that like this is starting to become taken more seriously uh in the havana syndrome

conversation so yeah and the the whole thing with this like they said like gens there's a lot of young people between like 12 and 25 that have developed like physical tics and a lot of these kids may were possibly convinced that they had tourettes or something like that but when they would go to doctors who specialize in it they're're like, this technically isn't Tourette's. It is a physical tick, but this wouldn't essentially be Tourette's because that would develop at a much earlier age for someone. And these specialists who, as they say, their whole thing is about Tourette's, they've said that they've seen referrals for these kind of like rapid onset of like physical tics. It used to just be around one to 5% of their total cases before the pandemic.

It's now 20 to 35% of their cases now. And they, they, the researchers, they quote, describe a quote, parallel pandemic of young people, age 12 to 25, almost exclusively girls and women presenting with the rapid onset of complex motor and vocal tick-like behaviors. There have been striking commonalities in the phenomenology of these tick-like behaviors observed across our centers in Canada, the United States, the UK, Germany, and Australia. Curiously, the researchers state that for the patients they studied, in addition to experiencing pandemic-related stressors, all endorsed exposure to influencers on social media, mainly tick tock with ticks or Tourette's syndrome. So it's like this weird thing where

they're, you know, a lot of people who develop these ticks are saying, you know, people don't believe them or people with Tourette's like, that's not Tourette's like you're faking this shit. And it's like causing a lot of distress and things like that. But these experts are really finding this thing of like the isolation and just general stress for certain people has created this environment in which they're now sort of like the content that they've been exposed to on TikTok is feeding into that now. to that now? I didn't know there was a tick like tick tock. But the interesting thing about that is it. I feel like there is some sort of subconscious survival mechanism there, even though it doesn't make sense to us because it sounds like ticks would be quote unquote negative in our sense. But if you're watching what you consider like an influencer or socially, you know, higher up than you or someone you admire. And you're a teenage girl, like one of the most important things at that time for survival is to feel accepted. So I could totally draw the

line. I mean, I'm not a scientist, this could be wrong. But my first thought is, subconsciously, your body wants to like adapt and fit in. So it would pick that up. Because I remember when we were in high school, people were saying, speaking like valley girls, there was a girl who faked her voice all through high school. Just like she, it wasn wasn't her real voice but she would just fake it and she would never go break character but when she was younger it wasn't like that right it was just to sound like a little more like a girly girl like that was the whole thing and it's it's wild because it's you know they've tried to figure out from every level like is it really this but they keep going back to the thing that they said, in some cases, the patient specifically identified an association between

these media exposures and the onset of their symptoms. So it's just this, this converse, this, I don't know, this back and forth between the psychological, emotional, and physical that are all kind of manifesting into this other you know they say like in like a mini pandemic within the pandemic yeah i guess i'm curious if it's dangerous i mean i understand anything unknown is scary and we want especially if it's spreading that fast but and like definitely something about this is unsettling but i'm curious why they've like named it an epidemic like is my understanding that there are a lot of tics that are harmless. That might just be annoying.

Or not annoying, but like, yeah. Right. And some people report ones that are way more violent. And they will hit themselves. And it could be something from just some people were just saying beans a lot. Other people would just have other things like scrunching their nose or other sort of physical tics, but it ran the entire spectrum of these sort of involuntary movements. So this Havana syndrome article that kind of approaches it from this perspective speaks with a lot of people who are experts on what they call functional

disorders. And they're, they say that it's like not like to approach it as like, okay, so this is expressing like some subconscious need or is kind of counterproductive because it's really like more about approaching it from the neurological perspective. And they like tell the story of this guy who just like suddenly started having really bad uh lower back pain and fever and chills and then like went to the hospital and like they couldn't figure out what was wrong with him and he like couldn't for a year and a half like nobody knew what was wrong with him it was uh like he couldn't walk anymore. And then this expert was just like, no, it's not like it's not a thing. The doctors eventually were like, it's psychogenic. It's starting in your brain.

And he was like, fuck you, because that's like there's a stigma to it. And it sounds like, oh, you're making it up. And that's not what's happening. What's happening. It is something that is happening to you. You're, you have no control over it. The brain is this massive, massive, like more massive than we can possibly comprehend a machine with like so, so much happening. And we only have like a access to like a small little pinhole of consciousness. And so you're not choosing anything. This is something that's happening to you. And that that seems like basically the scientific consensus at this point, even though like the way that the New Yorker and some other New York Times articles have covered it has been like, well, these doctors think it's this brain injury caused by microwaves. Like anybody who's an expert, like says, like, it's impossible. What

you're talking about is physically impossible. The sound waves thing, people are still calling it ultrasound. They point out that like when we use ultrasound ultrasound on a pregnant woman's belly, that gel is there because if there's a single little pocket of air in between the ultrasound and the thing it's trying to reach, it'll completely destroy it. Ultrasound can't travel through air. Sound can't travel through air in an effective way. Microwaves, same deal. Like you would basically feel like you were being cooked in a microwave oven, not like you are having a very specific targeted thing in your brain. The other thing they point to is that with these functional disorders, like the symptoms usually last longer than a physical injury because what's happening is

it's like getting locked into because of like stress and fear and like social conditions it's getting locked into like neurological pathways and then you can't get out of them because it's not actually a physical thing that you're recovering from. So like with regards to Havana, they said one of the reasons that they can tell that it's a functional disorder is that the people like if all these people had just been like hit on the head with something very heavy, like that's not what happened. But like they were saying they like had brain trauma. If everybody had suffered brain trauma at the time that they felt like they had been attacked, they would have healed within weeks. But instead, they're still experiencing these symptoms like years later.

And so that is a text, a textbook sign that this is a functional disorder. It's just wild that they because even as you're saying that, like there's phrases like, oh, it's in your head, right? Which we come to know as like, you're making it up. But then when you said it in a scientific way, like it's something happening in the brain. We're like, yeah, that's a physical part of your body. It's actually a pretty important part of your body. Something, it also does other things, right? Like regulate your blood flow or whatever. Like it does other things that we're not like, can't believe you lifted your arm. It's all in your head. It's your head it's like yeah no my my brain told me to lift my arm so that i can answer this question why is that different from like it's hurting my back except in this case i don't know

why like just because it came from my brain doesn't mean i'm a asshole who's doing this to waste your time doctor you know med bills are expensive so i that like, it's such a strange cognitive dissonance of our healthcare system. I think people get so scared to be like seen as like hokey or like veering into like any alternative medicine that we forget that there are a lot of old, like old ways, ancient medicine, ancient learnings that aren't perfect,

but neither are Western medicines. And like, if we just take that line away and just look at more truth, we can bridge the gap and figure out more things. Yeah. Or in this case, just being able to not revert to like this very rigid way of diagnosing things like where, you know, like really, and to your point of being open to things like, yeah, this, if they're saying it, it's, we should also know that it's very quite possible that they're experiencing something that is not known to me because i might not have an area of expertise in this place but take this person's word for it rather than saying like ah yeah whatever you're just you're fucking tripping yeah there's a lot more research

now about like what like emdr and all that stuff about how you can actually reprocess those patterns that don't get stored correctly and it's a little different than this but it sounds similar when you said it there's like a path kind of that gets glitchy and you repeat a glitch over and over it's very similar addiction yeah addiction therapy is like very similar but so this guy Jason Linsley who now is like openly like i suffered from this thing called a functional movement disorder for a year and a half the the way that he treated it was he met with this guy who's an expert or actually it's a woman in louisville kentucky who's an expert who basically just did these like got him to be on board with it. It's like, no, it's not a mental thing.

It's a neurological, like, brain thing that, like, you have no control over. They, like, put him through these therapies that were just about, like, motor retraining designed to overcome his resistance to normal movements. Physical therapists began by asking him to take minuscule movements of his feet. And he spent part of each day undergoing cognitive behavioral therapy. And like a week later, he walked out of the clinic like nothing had ever been wrong with him. And so it's yeah. And he's like, yeah,, that's what it was. It was a functional disorder. That doesn't mean like I had something wrong with me. It's just, that's a thing that happens. I do think it's interesting that we're seeing more and more of these functional disorders at a time when we're having more and more, you know, Teresa, like you were saying, like kind of having to sublimate and like deal with stress and like use cognitive dissonance just to get through our day-to-day lives. Like

just having to deal with the fact that we live on a planet that is like dying and nobody's doing anything about it. And, you know, it just seems like there's more internal stress that we're not able to address or even express in our day-to-day lives than ever before. So it kind of makes sense to me that we would be having these things like kind of coming out of our unconscious and attacking our body more than we have in the past. Well, and the age is interesting too, because like, I think I'm just beyond that age where even though I can be internet savvy, most of my development years were spent in the real world, like, you know, screens and apps weren't as big. Whereas with the pandemic, plus the internet age, Gen Z, I think virtually in their brain don't distinguish an interaction online versus in real

life, like they can tell you it is it's not like they're like i can't tell but in terms of like if someone confesses their love if someone bullies them i think that in their brain it has a semi-effect they're hitting the same spot yeah maybe yeah whereas for me it might be different because i remember you know wanting to go to the school dances and getting and flirting in person i've had my share of flirting online but it's a little bit different because i was older you know what i mean like i didn't have right it's not like that like first introduction to those sensations so i feel like that must be a part of it too because they're online and they're developing by watching whereas we can just scroll past thinking oh it's just like a character on a screen sure i mean it's just yeah but there i mean we i mean i was definitely like i modeled shit off of

tv when i was younger so it there may be jim carrey face i was going around everywhere going like somebody stop me i know i know we saw we've seen the tattoo but the whole thing with this we're like yo get that lasered off or what miles still enters every room like kramer kicks in the door and slides yeah whoa when i say hey what's up jerry and they're like what's up jerry nothing anyway uh no but this it yeah these differences are i think we're starting to see right like we're in an age where there are people who have been interacting with screens and apps that are designed to manipulate your brain. And then you're adding these ISO, like the isolation of a pandemic plus like the lack of social contact and additional stress and things like that.

It's, I can only imagine like that. This is probably some, we're seeing an experiment basically play out on some level of trying to understand like how all of these things may interact at a certain age but yeah it's but i mean it's so the havana syndrome thing's happening to like grown adult bureaucrats like kind of the opposite end of the spectrum from young teenage people who are on tiktok but it's still i i i i always want to like kind of resist the urge to blame technology even though i know there's like a lot of new shit happening like i i do think that just across the board everybody's under more stress than they've ever ever been under and it's like stress

that nobody's acknowledging kind of is is you guys gotta shake it out okay look i know it sounds on your head i i used to just like when i get sad i would just start shaking my butt and i thought that was funny but over the pandemic i started realizing that this isn't just a weird thing i do i think it's like a smart thing i do i think it's like the stress needs to come out some way so shake your butt at home guys do it shake your butt to yourself okay don't flash anybody that doesn't want to be flashed when you shake your butt are you like half are you like what do you mean you're just like going like this like you're trying to shake your butt are you doing a dance like what I wish my computer wasn't slow because I know I could hear you were but I could not see it. I could just see you frozen.

Since I was a kid, I know it sounds ridiculous as an adult woman. I'm like, I'm shaking my butt. But babies literally will shake their butt like that. And then I've grown up to actually dance and twerk and whatever. So yeah, I'll put on music I like and actually start to move around and feel myself. Like, this is a fun move, whatever. But I'll do that for me for like 10 minutes while i'm cooking and just uh it seems silly but during pandemic when i

was like the most isolated it was almost like a daily thing it just i'll just get the urge to do it and i think it was literally my body being like time to get all the news of today out through your butt like just get it out you know yeah yeah oh there's your cult yo there's your cult though you get people shaking their butts and like you know you but you give them like that through your information right they process information but then process that through butt wiggling but okay i could go for that like we're getting closer to a call i might actually take on so yeah you know i can do that brick by brick we're gonna build this thing at first when you said like when you feel sad you shake your butt i was just picturing someone like crying while like just sadly shaking that's not

too far off Let's talk about Texas. The, you know, after the Supreme court basically made it official that they're playing to overturn row and decided to allow this like vigilante law to go forward. I've been surprised by the lack of just urgency on the part of like, it's not, it keeps getting knocked out of the off the like top of news sites. And the, you know, eventually,

like Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, like use the word abortion in their tweet. But at first, they were like, this is, you know, using very vague language. And it reminded me of that anecdote I always come back to where the guys from Crooked Media talked about how when they evaluate candidates for political office, the first thing they do is check the person's phone and add up the amount of money in their contact list because it's all about fundraising and this gives them something to fundraise on like the the democrats know that this is a salient issue where they have the majority on their side and rather than being like okay it's fucking code red let's like figure out how to solve this problem immediately so an entire

state that is massive that takes like fucking days to drive across has not like functionally made abortion illegal and instead they i've read like headlines even that are like democrats are like you know reeling and yet like feel like they have a winner for the midterms basically and it's just like fuck that like that is all just business for them right it's all just you know getting getting to hold on to power and like we i don't know it like why why be in power if you're not going to fucking do anything when the people who vote for you are directly attacked? Yeah, I think they want to keep us scared. Right. And there's also just like, again, there's just a whole group of politicians who are not there to actually do anything that helps people.

They just were like, I want to win an election and I want to go and I want to be in Congress. And then from there, I'll just figure out like which PACs and lobbyists I can like cozy up with to keep me from having to fundraise on the road because they'll bundle up a bunch of donations for me to keep me in office. And I can just be the most semi-powerful person in my region of the country. And you can tell because it's just all the Joe Biden said that law. He said the bill is, quote, almost un-American. He said almost. He's very much like even after the insurrection.

What did you say? Like, that's not us. I'm like, no, that literally is us. Like, you can't. You have to like you. It is you. I'm sorry, but I'm not. I don't like it either. But it's like, yeah, I'm just going to pick and choose the things I'm sorry, but I'm not. I don't like it either.

But it's like, yeah, I'm just going to pick and choose the things I want to represent. And yeah, I don't. And we have all of these pressing fucking problems. And yet you go on fucking ABC News right now. You got to scroll way down before the word abortion shows up. You got to scroll other websites. They're talking about, you know, granted, there's a natural disaster happening. That's fine. But there's also this is a huge issue that's affecting many people in the country and putting a lot of people at risk. And the potential for that to multiply across many states is a very real thing. It's just easier to be like, oh, man, the weather's bad and not tying it to climate change and not tying it to how the administration is like not really doing much in that regard either. Or, you know, maybe you can run more headlines about how the U.S. spent twenty one trillion dollars after 9-11, you know, fighting whatever this war on terrorism was.

And and think of all of the outcomes that could have occurred for other people had maybe a fraction of that been invested. Because we have people like Joe Manchin, who are shitting the bed over three and a half trillion dollars, when the plan is to have that paid for with taxes, and to provide people with things like, you know, paid childcare, two years of community college, things that are trying to address really big issues. And, you know, we're just, I don't know, like, I don't know if the media, clearly the media is not built to create the outrage that's necessary, but there needs to be a lot more people getting involved in so many things now, because it's clear that we can't rely on these fucking people in DC. Can't rely on the government. They're on their own pace, at their own pace.

Yeah. I think you said, what you said about them just focusing on winning, like really speaks to me. Cause it's like the idea, I mean, people used to be like, you're not present or like, yeah, it does not be anxious. You have to learn how to be present. I'm like, blah, blah, blah. That's some like Eckhart Tolle shit. But I do think it applies here because if you spend your entire, you know, campaign trying to get elected, that's your goal. And then you get elected and then you spend the whole time trying not to lose your seat. You never spent any time just being a leader and really to get elected you should spend all of your time in your campaign already being a leader right and that's how you get elected

instead of trying to get elected and then once you're there you should just continue being a leader and but instead of we have all these people who are just like for maybe one second their acceptance speech that's when they like are the most in the moment and actually get to be like i will do what i say and then immediately they're like now i cannot lose so now i must focus on not losing i'm not saying anything too hot to not fuck up my poll numbers so i will retreat to this de facto sort of system of just business as usual to not rock the boat too much. Because if you think about it, if you're a politician, there will be a fork in the road where you choose to either engage with all of the chaos that your constituents are facing and to have to make a good faith effort to try and hear those concerns and figure out

how you can help them. Or you're just like, man, fuck it, man. There's so much shit going on. Let me just get on the fucking committee and like just collect money from that industry and fucking like let the if you want to do the heavy shit then go be on that committee because i can't you know actually swinging and missing is better like i don't know maybe we should just put all of congress in a like a baseball league or something they have to all play each other so every week at least somebody loses get them over their fucking fear of losing, make them lose in basketball every week. And then

they're not going to focus on losing their election. Yeah. Well, I mean, I think that's why, you know, when we're looking at this issue as it relates to Texas, it's just, it's massively important. You know, if you believe that there's a way that we can somehow with this two party system arrive at a place that provides the outcomes that are like, you know, actually beneficial to people like, you know, you have been if that's the case, then really look at the kinds of people who you vote for. If you're going to vote and participate in an election, know who you're sending to office, because most people, you know, you're it's like an afterthought. And I think that's why a lot of

people are saying like, you know, if you're gonna to sadly, they're they're stuck in this very cynical game of just like winning elections and not, you know, providing for people. Then, you know, then maybe the biggest weapon Democrats have is just force a vote and put everybody on the record on how they to codify Roe versus Wade, put them on the record. how they to codify Roe versus Wade, put them on the record. And then for them, because, again, everything's about what they can use in the next election. Then you can use this this no vote for access to abortions to try and defeat other candidates. But it's just like it's obviously like, yeah, we're Democratic supposedly. So we'll go vote. But it's tough when an entire party is like mo is to like spend money to make sure some people don't vote it's like hmm perhaps perhaps that might not be in any voters best interest you know and i think that really speaks how far we've come when there's just the whole

republican party is like just trying to suppress voters because they're not even trying to like they believe i mean they claim moral high ground and i'm all for having true discussions about morality but in those ones i think you let the truth lead you don't win them by going and shut up like it's like if you really think if you really think you're on some moral high ground i welcome that conversation but they know they're not so then you have to resort to fuckery so like i you know there's things i don't agree with but i wouldn't make illegal you know i think parenting should be illegal for everyone because you know most parents are bad uh except for you jack um parenting is illegal but i'm not out here proposing parenting to be illegal so you know but yeah, I mean, this just the the Democratic Party not doing anything, the mainstream media kind of not raising the alarm here is really underlines the need for like, you know, finding people who are doing things on

the ground in Texas to help women who don't have access to abortions, finding ways to contribute directly because, yeah, waiting to vote just doesn't, we're voting in people who then won't do anything because they recognize that this issue is beneficial to them. Right. It's just that whole part of the American system is feeling more and more just fucking pointless at this point. Yeah. And it's like anything, right? Any most marginalized groups in this country who have fucking screamed at the top of their lungs for some just shred of dignity to be offered to them. It's like, yeah, yeah, we're going to get to that. Make sure you vote in three years.

Right. Yeah. Well, I'm dying now. So what about now? Oh, man, well, you got to vote. You got to make sure. That's why it's really important to make sure you know. Well, that doesn't help.

So then you have to really think about then what is that? Where is the help happening? And it's going to be in a lot of organizations that are on the ground who are already trying to, you know, like if it's the, like just numerous organizations, like what's the one I'm thinking of? Oh, like if, when, how, which is like the legal defense fund that is just being like, yo, you got legal issues as it relates to like abortion access, hit us up. This is what we do. And we provide these services for free because this is, we know that this is

how we can help someone in the immediate, like future deal with something because there are already reports that abortion clinics outside of Texas are already seeing a surge of people fleeing Texas to get access to an abortion. So we like the, the So the thing isn't to just merely be like, oh, fuck, well, maybe Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer will figure something out. Activism is truly what we need in every arena of this country we live in as it relates to inequality, as it relates to racism,

as it relates to rights for LGBTQ people, as it relates to abortion access. it relates to rights for LGBTQ people, as it relates to abortion access, like activism and involvement is truly the way you're going to be able to participate in some positive way and be able to be a part of a cog in this larger movement that will help people. And it doesn't mean you have to. And again, I said this even last summer when people are like, well, what do you do about white supremacy? You have to go fight some Nazis or you have to go to an abortion clinic and beat up a bunch of people. But there are ways to get them. Just don't stand by and watch. Like if let's say you just you're saying, well, maybe I'm not going I'm comfortable going to protest.

Maybe you can donate some things to the organizations that need things to provide people with access. Maybe you can make a donation. Maybe you can organize your friend group and say, hey, I just know that all 15 of us are on the same page and I know that we know this is a serious issue. I want to make sure we are actively giving something to this, whether it's going to be our time or our money or our talents or whatever, that there are ways to contribute and be and feel and, you know know actually play an active role in something then because you're damn sure not going to get it from waiting on whatever's going to happen on the hill yeah i think that's well said like it's not about because i think i mean as comedians we're often like we will jump into extremes and radicalize but i think there's a lot to be said about someone who

is like comfortable saying they're uncomfortable because that's actually how you get real change is if everyone suddenly became extreme then we get that binary right like oh someone who absolutely doesn't think it pertains to them is just going to ignore a whole mob outside no matter how big it gets but if it's their friends actually having conversations like oh i'm starting to think differently then they actually get to incrementally change like i think we hear about all these organizations helping and they are doing great stuff, but sometimes you get lost like on the upper class thinking like, Oh, these all exist. People don't know about them. Like I recently started driving Uber and just put some like community resources in the car. Cause I had learned about more during just volunteering

more during the pandemic that I hadn't even known about. And I like what they're doing. There's like sellout, you know, you can get free showers, things like that around LA. And I drove to people who they weren't like they were living in an encampment, but they seem like they had their own community. And they saw it. And they're like, Oh, this is cool. I didn't know that. And it was like, right in the neighborhood. And I realized, like, to me, it's not just about like, Oh, today, I'm gonna go do service. It's about just constantly being like, Hey, this is a community I'm part of. And you never know when you're going to cross paths with someone who didn't know about a resource that someone is spending a bunch of

money trying to get out there, you know? So I think just being open to talking to people outside of like your quote unquote service hours is another way to look at it. Yeah, absolutely. And even like, if you have like, let's say you're like, Oh, well, I don't know if I'm comfortable going and like getting super in the faces of people and doing that. Well, you can you can give a testimony at a public hearing in support of these things. You can use your voice to express support. Maybe you're an artist. You can maybe just create some art around it because now you're trying to add something to the conversation. But there are ways for people to be more actively thinking about what your place is in a given

movement for some kind of some form of equality. And it's not always the version that they just show you on TV, which is people fighting in the street. Like there are so many ways to get involved or you're just there for somebody saying, hey, if you ever need need childcare, you know, like I'm there for you to do so you can go do something there. There it's, it's not just, you know, the three ways to get involved. So, uh, we'll definitely have some links to like organizations that are on the ground in Texas who are actively thinking of what do we do? Is it, you know, because many

people are already thinking, how are we going to, how do we evolve our shit based on these laws? And it's going to take resources. And it hell, if you may have something to offer locally, you might say, hey, man, I live in Texas and I have time to drive. I got, you know, I actually have a couple of vans I can let y'all use to get people around. That's just easy. That's a, that's a way that you can still actively contribute to something. And it might not be in the way you were thinking that you were afraid of, but you probably have the heart to say, I have time to drive someone. I have time to watch someone's kids. I have time to donate. And so think of that as well, because this is a really harrowing time. And because we're facing an Omni crisis where everything is in a state of free fall, it feels like, that it's so easy to feel apathetic about things. But just know that there are ways to feel good about this. Not to say that this situation is good, but you can contribute positively. Yeah. Yeah.

There's a Reddit thread where people are talking about just finding a way to render the reporting system useless because this is a publicly fueled public reporting fueled law so you know nothing's to stop people from getting on a vpn you know looking like they're from texas and just flooding it with false reports i'm not advocating that because i don't know if it's illegal if it's illegal but that's an example of you know the sort of shit that may make sense to me at least well yeah because i mean you can aren't you able to sue from outside the state though too i think so but i'm sure they can like sift based on like where you're coming from and like if they see that like a bunch of the reports

are coming from la that are that aren't panning out yeah but i mean this is just yeah i mean we're we're definitely looking at a time when we're if the democrats don't have their shit together it's truly going to fall on our own ability to create community to help each other i mean ultimately we need a fucking general strike that like with something like this, that is more popular, like you could fucking bring the country to to its knees if you just have a general strike where everybody who believes that women should have bodily autonomy, like protected legally, just refuse to work until that was a fucking law. Like that's the sort of thing that is it might take to. Right. But we have to have heard nobody wants to work anymore. OK. Right. Right. Yeah. It's impossible to get people to work when you're. I don't know. I hate people keep saying I'm like, nobody wants to pay. What are you talking about? Yeah. No, I want to work. Yeah, absolutely. And but it's even harder to do that when we don't have we're not quite set up as Americans enough to have those mutual aid networks to be like, if you don't go to work, here's how we can take care of you. Here's how we can get your bills paid. Here's how you can get food because this is how we're going to shut shit down.

that like more and more people are gonna have to get in a place where they understand how they themselves can get organized to ensure positive outcomes for people because fucking waiting on the folks over in dc is just yeah it's not fast enough and they've demonstrated time and again that they don't have the will to act fast enough because unfortunately that's just the way this system is fucking built it's not gonna fucking it's not gonna get radical change overnight like that yeah because there will people there will always be people like the joe mansions of the world that are set to be obstacles to and one person somehow has the power to slow down or perceived power to slow down real progress but yeah it just seems like the internet and you know all the social media tools are being used for fucking organizing q anon shit and not for organizing like general strikes and

shit that could actually help so i don't know there are i mean there's there's definitely active campaigns i think the problem is we're as americans people aren't quite in tune with their power right because we take everything for granted in this country and because of that there's like this huge there for many people especially like you know upper middle class people they're it's just like so abstract of this idea of like what to do to take things back or how you can exercise that power. But I think as, you know, we see the suffering continue across the country, you are seeing more and more people figuring out that we're going to have to rely on each other in some way. But I think the vocabulary might not be there yet.

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And let's just go right to Moonfall. Teresa, you just watched the trailer yeah just now oh god i'm you guys can't see there's a huge smile on my face this is ridiculous first of all uh i gotta say nailed the name it does appear to be about the moon falling um okay all right a plus for that there's two points there they did not nail the size of the moon uh the moon appears to be the same size as the planet earth in the trailer which i don't think is accurate but no i like you go which i don't think is accurate you can be unequivocal that there's like yo that is not the size of the fucking moon but it's next to earth like that wild yeah this is a what if like you know this the trailers get kookier and roland emmerich

hits us just with another fucking bizarro way to just worry about how the world could end in a very inaccurate way but hey yeah that's his forte roland emmerich is a guy who brought us independence day he brought us 2012. Day after tomorrow. Is that him too? Day after tomorrow. Yeah, yeah. Which totally, which got the science behind climate change slightly wrong. That's his thing though, you know?

Yeah. He's like, fuck science, man. I'm just here for the visuals. I feel, okay. I love the moon, I gotta say. Don't love the idea of this, but what I do love about it is my prediction for the next Fast and the Furious

was either time travel or space. Or they've already kind of gone to space, but I feel like we're going to get a Jules Verne Center of the Earth at some point with Van Diesel. And this is making me very hopeful for that happening soon. So I will say this is not the movie we want, but the movie we need. Because the movie we need you know because i need it to set the stage for others to be able to do that oh got it so this is gonna this is like

the sort of catalyst for for a space or inner inner core earth themed fast and furious film yeah this is like the existence to the matrix you know recently watched existence so i mean artistic but like whoa why is that somebody needs to check on him um and uh and his son did make a better show though yeah because it's wild okay i don't want to get into that it's too obscure but it's like this weird matrix these video game simulation where there's like fucking of a belly button it's too weird but i feel like this weird matrix, this video game simulation where there's like fucking of a belly button. It's too weird. But I feel like this is that, too.

Whatever the next, what the next thing is that's good. It's this bad thing. Will take elements that were planted in this, you know? And, uh-huh. Does this make sense? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah's a it's it's a domino effect essentially is what we're talking about here i get it you know i also think this space thing this sperm thing i'm come on i know it sounded like a joke but every time these movies come out

i'm like you guys do see it right yeah yeah this fear of being born this fear of the out it's like come on space is it's not that complicated so there's a couple things like in addition like the moon crashing into the earth seems like it would be enough it would be enough for me to like yeah keep me entertained for an hour and a half but for there there's some additional angles here they find out that our moon is not what we think it is. So... If it turns out to be a cake, I'm going to be pissed. We'll be so happy, though,

in that scene when it's like, don't worry, guys, it's just cake. It's just a bunch of cake. There's ghost children or something in the trailer. So maybe they're doing an interstellar thing where love is a fucking e like it's a it's a space constant or something but yeah they got the size of the moon

wrong they also have a character who is a conspiracy theorist who like gets things right, which this also happened in Godzilla versus Kong. Yeah. Kong versus Godzilla. And yeah, I'm very like this. How could you still think that is a good idea for a character? Like at a time when we are like suffering from conspiracy theorists, refusing to take a critical vaccine for like

scientifically made up reasons but we're gonna make a movie where like we're gonna make movies where uh like anti uh mainstream media conspiracy theorists are like secretly right all along and the heroes like fuck off are you right that the moon could crash into earth rather than accepted sciences if anything were to knock the fucking moon off of its gravitational like orbit it would destroy the moon and then we would just get pieces of moon shit landing on earth that's how it would happen i love that like in this universe in the trailer it's like the moon's gonna hit the earth and then they zoom in on a car like we're gonna fucking care about cars when the moon is like it's like oh these killing machines humans made it's like do you know how ridiculous a car would look in space i mean i know i was talking

about the fast and furious but like we are so full of ourselves do you know how big space is like nobody cares about your car it's like your little heart blood cell like leaving the body and being like i'm floating oh you need me it's like no you don't it's your fucking blood cell they crushed one of those 2022 ford broncos those are so hard to get oh damn oh my god roland i'm just glad halle berry's get like working i'm happy for her i did love that scene of patrick wilson looking concerned about his career he was like what am i doing in this movie do they really need another white man you know and he's like he gets it you know that that look it said it to me it spoke to me right but this is kind of his thing right roland emmerich is just like he makes movies to just entertain conspiracy theories it seems

like yeah and they're all like somewhat problematic conspiracy not always but like so third act of independence day took place at area 51 he made that stargate movie which propagated the racist theory that the pyramids must have been built by aliens because white people didn't build them so they must have had alien help he made the movie anonymous based on the theory that a like earl a high-born earl edward devere actually wrote all of shakespeare's plays which is like a very like that conspiracy theory comes from people being like it couldn't be a shakespeare couldn't have been a mere actor he must have been like somebody who was high born it's like started by the fucking house of lords at one point is going to come back around and we're going gonna get just

like a powerful black writer who's just gonna write a movie that captures all the shittiest movie like like all the michael bay's all you know like and it's like actually i was behind this the whole time and it's like then we're not it's like inception and you're just gonna be like it doesn't matter anymore now we're just gonna like just it's stupid like why do we keep doing this like it was all a dream you know like it's like right uh that being said um no i yeah okay i don't i don't even know where i was going with that i i just think we're going around in circles of what i'm trying to say we are one day going to build the pyramids i am sure of it and we're gonna think that we did it better but what it is gonna

be is just the same thing and then in 20 000 years it's going to happen all over again like that is what's going to happen yeah which is um yeah just as cyclical as the works of roland emmerich i see yeah we're on this path i just say let's just be present okay can roland emmerich just go to you know a sound bath bath or something and fucking catch up with himself. Well, that's what the thing is. Him and Eckhart Tolle are working on A New World, which is the sequel to this. So, yeah, buckle your

spiritual safety belts. I want to say I almost guarantee that Roland Emmerich has just the most problematic beliefs and politics and ideas uh so yeah our writer jm mcnabb was pointing out that like at least like shakespeare's or uh spielberg the shakespeare of our time steven spielberg like at least his movies are about how like people in power

fuck up like jaws and jurassic park like jaws was such a perfect metaphor for fucking covid and how we fucked that up oh that's right the other thing was they uh said that in the new like independence day that roland emmerich was whitewashing stonewall too oh my god it's like a a white guy was the one kicking off Stonewall and shit. Oh, that's in... He made a Stonewall movie, I think. Oh, is that what it is?

Yeah, he made a Stonewall movie. Oh, was it called Stonewall? Yeah, it was called Stonewall and instead of a... Yeah, I don't know why that would be an independent scene. I was high, but I don't remember that scene. Yeah, yeah.

I don't think I've seen that much of Roland Emmerich's stuff, to be honest. That's the only movie that he made, Stonewall was the only movie that he made that was not a massive blockbuster disaster movie. The Patriot. Did he make The Patriot? I think so.

Oh, wow. That was Mel Gibson, right? it yeah i feel like i was so i remember that and then also remember not watching it yeah yeah because i was like i don't care bro like it was like nothing i was interested in sexy to me so yeah i'm curious to know what his next one's gonna be it's gonna be about critical race theory just wait i i think it's interesting what you said about spielberg being like challenging power because in like movies like jaws you get even though it's like whatever at all times like a bunch of white guys it isn't there is like the truth comes through there's always like the mass doesn't believe the truth and there's always sort of like

the money hungry person like it still exposes that whereas like in these kinds of movies they're they're like working with the government and it's like the authorities are correct and it's up to you to save the world being america because america is the world like it's this weird fake reality where nobody actually exposes right yeah and one where it's like dude scientists don't know what they're talking about this podcaster does yeah like yes yes yes i love this shit oh my god well teresa as always such a pleasure having you where can people find you and follow you you can find me on instagram at teresa lee bought and you can find my short film it's called get loved get loved short or get loved film on instagram and yeah i hope you guys enjoy it and donate to it yeah yeah um yeah it's a fun

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Pretty good. Chef's kiss. Yeah. Yeah. Well done. Miles, where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram at miles of gray also if you like 90 day fiance come by for 20 day fiance with sophia alexandra and i where we just give get off these takes on the terrible trash

reality show that we love so much a tweet that i like first one is from chrissy careerson uh i don't i guess i don't really know who that is but this tweet went up it just said earth is crying out for help and the government is worried about my uterus the math ain't mathing uh yeah that that that tracks and another one from amy miller very wonderful friend of the show at amy miller uh tweeted it's just like like Jesus said in the Bible, please kidnap anyone that helps someone get an abortion. If you do, you will have enough after taxes to buy a used Nissan Sentra and both of our

abusive dads will be proud of us. All right. A tweet I've been enjoying. No, at enough said New York tweeted everything in virginia named after robert e lee needs to be renamed after alan iverson which i just think is true and needs to happen and then estelle imane tweeted uh saying why don't we just print more money in a room full of men just to feel something?

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