The Daily Zeitgeist - Time Has Been Altered, Catastrophic Miscalculation? 10.31.19

Episode Date: October 31, 2019

In episode 506, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the rising sea levels, the Trump/Ukraine call transcript, Netflix giving us the option to speed up or slow down the content, how Instagram runs our lives, Bill Murray getting a job, and more! Plus super producer Anna Hossnieh joins to discuss Demi's Moore's member Inside Out. Happy Halloween!FOOTNOTES: Rising Seas Will Erase More Cities by 2050, New Research Shows White House Ukraine Expert Sought to Correct Transcript of Trump Call DIRECTOR PAUL FEIG THE NETFLIX SPEED-UP THING SUCKS ... Don't Mess with Our Art!!! INSTAGRAM IS PUSHING RESTAURANTS TO BE KITSCHY, COLORFUL, AND IRRESISTIBLE TO PHOTOGRAPHERS Bill Murray works at an airport P.F. Chang's now Demi Moore Lets Her Guard Down WATCH: Jimetta Rose - Master of Disguise Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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don't do this impeachment moving to another country if they don't do this impeachment moving to another country if they don't do this impeachment, move into another country. If they don't do this impeachment, time to impeach this man. He should be put into a can in Guantanamo Town. And if I had my little way, he'd have been impeached on the first day in an orange jumpsuit, his face the same shade. And we'll leave it there. Presidency of the United States of America, ironic and that is from Jameson Bruce Jameson Bruce, thank you for that

aka, the bombless double aka because I guess they were broken or maybe he just didn't think we deserved it Miles? I'm not gonna speculate but the mixing room smells like alcohol. Right. Yeah.

But, you know. He says it's screen cleaner that he spilled. Right. I don't know. I don't know when screen cleaner smells like Ciroc Berry. Now he's just accidentally hitting buttons. He just hit the conspiracy one. Wow.

That guy is wasted. Oh, boy. Have you ever threatened to leave the country based on the outcome of an election before? I think I did during Bush when that sentiment first came up when it was like, man, I'm going to fucking Canada. I've already been shown that I've already- You're not about that life? Outed myself that I was like, I'm moving. I'll move to fucking Canada though. I did not move. I'll move no matter what to Canada because I just love British Columbia.

Yeah. Just in general. Yeah. Montreal, hell of a town. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, and he looks suspiciously like a dog eating spaghetti today. He is Mr. Billy Wayne Davis. I just look happy.

Yeah. You just described happiness. Yeah. You're eating fruit by the foot. In the most aggressive way I've ever seen. Just the whole thing. Well, I thought we only had a certain amount of time while you were doing the break, so I just started eating it, and then it just kept, you know, there's a couple feet of it.

You should know, man. It's three long feet of Fruity Fun Foot 2. It just kept going. Is it three? I thought it was a foot. That shit used to be three feet long. It's bigger than a foot. Yeah. That shit's three feet. When it came out, I remember the jingle was something like three long feet

of Fruity Fun 2. I bet they could get away with a foot. Well, that's not fun, man. You want your mom to have a panic attack when she sees you into eating like a never-ending tape of sugar yeah the way you're eating though watching you you were slinging the end of the fucking fruit by the foot around like david fighting goliath or some shit yeah i was literally thinking like i'm glad this stuff's making a comeback but then i was saying but then you're like it's just sugar and like damn it it is like

i don't know why in my head i was like no it's good for you you've got fruit you've got your uh serving of fruit for the day i think we can yeah we can mark that box off your food pyramid um but you just the way you were doing have you ever seen a dog eat spaghetti or try to eat spaghetti i don't probably is that it's worth it's watching. Is that like an activity people engage in? It's just fun. You're like, hey, man, you want to go down and watch some dogs eat spaghetti? No, it's just a social media video. The South is different.

I did see an interesting thing where people were putting dried spaghetti things through cut-up hot dog and then cooking the pasta all together so then your noodles are already pierced through these hot dog bites. It looks like hell on earth, but delicious hell on earth. That's so like. Hot dogs and spaghetti, that's a very acquired taste. Yeah. But, hey, do you. What happened?

We ran out of Spam. Right. That's one that even when I was like five, I was like, really? Hot dogs? Hot dogs? And your spaghetti sauce? Well, hey, look. Well, I'm going to Cincinnati next month,

and they have spaghetti over chili. Oh, yeah, chili over spaghetti. Three-way? Four-way? I know, and people are going to get mad I say this, and I should wait until after I go there, but I just don't like it. You don't care for it.

I don't. Well, do you like the Coney's? That way you just get the chili dog? No, it's fine. I don't like it. Don't care for it. I don't. Well, do you like the Coney's? That way you just get the chili dog? No, it's fine. I don't like messy. Right. Right. So, like, a chili dog has always been, like, disgusting.

But you've gone to, like, the Cincinnati chili spots? Yeah, because when I first went there, you know, that's what everybody's like, oh, you got to go to Skyline Chili. Or Gold Star. Or whatever. Yeah, either one. I get regularly bashed for liking Gold Star. This is spaghetti.

Why is spaghetti in this chili? Isn't it good? No. Oh, I like it. You don't like a bolognese? It doesn't go. Sorry, that was offensive. I was raised.

I apologize. Well, what's interesting, actually, Jack, is the bolognese, which comes from the town of Bologna. I bring this on myself. It doesn't actually, it's not a red sauce. I can't complain. It's like a gravy. It is a gravy. I'm going to let this be the whole show because

I brought this on myself. That's why you travel, so you can be a dick. That's right. So I can say, ah, a Bolognese, yes. Yo, Bologna's lit. That town is like San Francisco. Damn it. They have like ACAB thrown up on the walls and shit. I was like, oh, they're Yo, Bologna's lit. That town is like San Francisco. Damn it. Yeah.

No, they have like ACAB thrown up on the walls and shit. I was like, oh, they're out here. Do they throw it on there? That's awesome. That's the funnest part of Spaghetti. And people tell me it's like a university town, very liberal. Oh, shit. Very cool, very cool. All right, Billy Wayne, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to talk about a couple of the stories we're covering today. But first, we're going to talk about a couple of the stories we're covering today. The New York Times is reporting that, whoopsie, we underestimated how much of the map is going to be underwater during high tides by about 100 million people. Holy shit. So whoopsie basins. That's not that many. Grand scale. Yeah. It's a lot. Yeah. 100 million's a lot. That's not math many. Grand scale. Yeah, it's a lot.

Yeah. A hundred million's a lot. That's not math we're talking about. Well, one thing that, so all of South Vietnam will no longer exist at high tide, or it will be a bunch of trees in ocean water. There's one lost general from the vietnam war who just got this message like we did it nice but yeah so we're going to talk about that and what was behind that mistake is very simple mistake forgot to carry the one on a couple things uh we are going to check in

with the whistleblower scandal because uh back to basics remember that transcript yeah that quote-unquote transcript yeah turns out there was a reason that we kept being warned and warning that it wasn't a transcript it was a memo turns out that was not a complete encapsulation a complete no way yeah and some important texture was left out so we're gonna we're gonna talk about what that is we're gonna talk about pelosi releasing the rules for impeachment uh we're gonna talk about you don't talk about impeachment right i just broke it yeah damn it you're out we're gonna talk about about Netflix's latest feature, which made me think about a BuzzFeed article that's pretty good about how 2010 broke time. So we're going to talk about that, just all the ways that the zeitgeist is being mediated by our phones and our media, all of that and plenty more.

But first, Billy Wayne, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I'm still trying to fix that battery from my Ford Escape. I got two of them in my house right now. Really? Yeah. Wait, so you have, last time you were looking for it, you tried to identify the battery.

You got the battery now. I got a new battery. And now you got to install it? But now, yeah. Well, no, installing it was easy. But what happens is if they sit for too long, then they get below a certain percentage. Oh now you got to install it? But now, yeah. Well, no, installing it was easy. But what happens is if they sit for too long, then they get below a certain percentage. Oh, you got to get them charged up?

Yeah. So now I have to get them charged up, and I'm looking at the right places around town that'll just help you out. Yeah. And other people are just like, no, we can make a ton of money off this. Oh, okay.

Wait, so what do you need to charge the battery? I may have to. I have to figure that out exactly. Once I figure that out exactly. But right now, I've got a scanner coming. I get it this afternoon. I'm going to put it in my... And it's going to tell me exactly what's wrong with it.

Because it could be a fan issue inside the battery. And if that's what it is, it's a pretty easy fix. Okay, well, Automotive Zeitgang, if you know the hacks to charge a battery without getting... It's there, and they've already sent it to me. I just have to do the steps. Oh, shit. Yes, no, it's all... You've already been blessed with the knowledge.

The longest process of this was finding the battery. Right. Right, right, right. Because it was just the needle in a haystack because other people that do this for a living are finding them quick. Quick, right, right, right. And then fixing them.

Got it. So I got this one out of Murfreesboro, Tennessee. There you go. And then they shipped it here. Well, blessings to you on your battery journey. Yeah. No, it's fun. It's been a fun.

My wife is about tired of it. Is about tired of it. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated. I think that, man, I think baseball is underrated. Okay. I don't know, game seven was last night?

Yeah, game seven was last night, was it? Yeah, last night. And I just think there were two teams that weren't necessarily, had all the money and all that. Right. So that's what, and there's always a couple of those all that right so that's what and there's always a couple of those teams in baseball because that's what it's about yeah yeah i just think it's a slower smarter game than people give it credit for and then when people watch it they're always

like this is like fun and you're like yeah it's great background noise i mean i do most of the summer in the spring that's what i put on when I'm working I can only watch post season like I can only watch I understand I understand I'm a baseball fan but I do think

when people are like it's boring I'm like it's not it's not boring once you that's for me like I get like when the stakes are high

that's when I really yes I'm the same way with soccer this is what I love about it or football whatever I'm sure I've offended

half the fucking world. But I am that way, too. When they're like, this means a lot. I'm like, okay, I'll sit here for nine minutes. Yeah. Well, and also, too, when you start getting more interested in pitch counts and things like that and knowing, like, I don't know how much this guy's got left in him. And you start really understanding sort of tactically what's happening.

Then I was able to appreciate baseball a little bit even more. It's like a chess. It's chess all the time. It's fascinating. But it looks slow. It's very slow. And fat people can be really good at it. So that makes it fun.

Yeah, that is great. The great American sport. Babe Ruth. Yeah. John Kruk. John Kruk. There's fat guys playing right now. They're like, if they walked into this room and they're like I'm a professional athlete you'd be like bullshit

David Wells pitched a perfect game While drunk Still drunk for the previous night Oh that's right He's a good time I think he still is Alright You know we were so close to that riddle

There's a man running home with a mask on. Or there's a man running home and somebody's waiting for him with a mask on on a Halloween night. Oh, wow. What's happening? Game 7. Game 7 of the World Series. Game 7. Ah, so close.

One day off. What is something you think is overrated, Billy? I think consumption is overrated. Just the act of consuming to consume is overrated. Like consuming consumer goods? Just everything. The way humans consume things I think is overrated. I think that people put it like they gamified it to a weird,

like the more I consume the better. It's like they're doing something. That's the game. That's what they've set up for us. Yeah, right. Work your money. That we'll give to you. That you'll give right back to us.

Right back to us. Because, yeah, it's this weird... And if you're not doing it, then something's wrong. Yeah. That's the thing. Why are you chilling out? Because I got all the stuff. Right.

I think that's the battle I'm having. Yeah. like this is enough this is good i got two i got two ford escape batteries what else i need i do have that there's every time i walk through my driveway i'm like i'm like i fix this. But it's that. I think that's it. I have several jackets that are guaranteed for my whole life. That you know will go the distance. Yeah, but I don't need that. They won. Right.

So I think looking at all that and then seeing how much money we waste every year is just like, this system seems overrated. Yeah. That's, I think, the realization many people have over the years at a certain point you're like what is it have i been conditioned to do this yeah was it all those commercials as a kid yeah yeah it was just i don't know i went camping recently i think that was nice too yeah just like kind of stop get away from all the shit yeah yeah and i was like oh yeah i like this and most of the world is away from all the shit yeah yeah yeah like you have to look to be encased in the shit like we are on a day-to-day basis encased in the shit yeah you could just go in any direction and find a place that's far, far away.

What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? That moving the ride share pickup away from LAX would help improve traffic. Yeah. That was a myth that people believed to be true that I was like, you guys are lying. Yeah. And I was proved right. That, the videos of that waiting lot were horrifying.

As someone that flies a lot, I just, I watched like two seconds of that video and I turned it off and I was like, nope. Yeah. You just ruined my life. I mean, one, and I turned it off, and I was like, nope. Yeah. You just ruined my life. I mean, one thing, I guess it'll be good, because it seems like the taxi line will just be the fastest one,

because taxis can now just line up, and you can hop in a taxi. That might help the taxis. Is this for you, Greg? But it might actually help people to ride in less cars, because the flyaway is a cheap-ass option, too. That's like fucking $8.

Well, that's why I'm mad that you just said that because that's already what I decided to do. I was like, I'm just not going to tell anybody. I'm just going to take the $8 thing to Union Station. Yeah, and then, boom, then pop an Uber from there. It's a lot cheaper. Where does it take you? Well, there's a few different places. It can take you to Union Station.

It can take you to Van Nuys. They have spots all over the city. Places with good parking that aren't a complete disaster. But my God, to see the... And the whole thing was on a Tuesday. They're saying that's one of the lightest traffic days for LAX. And it looked like some kind of... It looked like those scenes in an apocalypse film where everyone's like,

everyone must evacuate Los Angeles. And it was like everybody was suitcases in this very tiny lot. That's what cracked me up about it. It was like, look how clear LAX is. And you're like, yeah, but... Look over here. What you did was just move all that mass over there. Right. That's the thing that

I feel like we've been to an airport where they were doing this that it kind of worked. But for the most part every time i've been at a lot that was specifically designed for rideshare like apps right it's a fucking mess man it depends well and springfield missouri it worked really well because we could see our lift coming from about two miles away right yeah yeah and we were in that special park are you the red one or the white one and then larry's like billy and i was like larry and he's like i'm one of two

lift drivers well when you this works good when you think of how lax was designed that was for the la of motherfucking 50 years ago right you know what i mean and now this shit is a whole different game and we have the same fucking infrastructure. That's why LAX is one of the worst fucking airports in a city. Not even close to – what's a fucking train? Not even a fucking train near there. Well, you learn real quick, like, when you get there, you're like, oh, okay. And then you get to LAX very fast. So you're like, oh, we made good time.

And then you're like, nope. No, you didn't. Now we're still 45 minutes to do a mile. Yeah, you might want to walk. And then there's always that part where if you're stuck underneath in that tunnel and it's moving slow. If you're at all claustrophobic, this is the worst thing. Well, the only thing that's funny because it seems like a scheme to get people to pay for the Uber Black or the Uber SUV because those are the only ones now that can pick you up. That can pick you up.

Or it is the return of phone a friend and be like, hey, bro, I'll smoke you out if you pick me up. Buy you a beer. Buy you a pizza. That's cheaper. Yeah, it is. There's a Med Men over there next to an In-N-Out. Yeah, you're like, fuck it. That's going to be like the new, like, it is packed over here.

One, two punch. You're like, yeah, well, that's the new price. That's the new ride share price. Zygang, let us know if your local airport has figured out how to deal with ride share shit. Yeah, to have actual public transportation there. Yeah. How about that too? Yeah, that's also useful.

All right, guys, let's talk about this New York Times article where they basically corrected a bunch of projected maps for the year 2050 based on you know climate change expected temperature rise sea level rise and so they were way off because what they were doing and this seems like the sort of thing that scientists i i'm trusting science a lot when i'm when i'm putting you know the future in their hands and being like well you guys got this you know what we need to do based on global warming uh but so they were mistaking uh the actual like where the ground was for where the tops of buildings and the tops of trees were so So they were saying. Using satellites. They were assuming that sea level was the tops of trees.

No, that ground level. Or ground level was the tops of trees. The tops of trees and the tops of buildings. And so they're like, oh, we've got a minute. Right. Because it has to get to this height. Yes. And then somebody was like, wait a minute.

Yes. And then they brought it to their boss and their boss was like, oh, damn it. We have wait a minute. Yes. And then they brought it to their boss, and their boss was like, oh, damn it. We have a lot of property there. They completely fucking miscalculated where the ground was. Standard elevation measurements using satellites struggle to differentiate the true ground level from tops of trees or buildings. That was the mistake.

And it's the difference between you know having some flooding in vietnam at high tide to most of south vietnam disappearing at high tide huge difference huge slight difference the projections of the number of people that were displaced has gone from 100 million uh i don't know what it was to my 10 year old you've got to check your work right yeah yeah right that's more important than finishing first so uh yeah they were off by 100 million uh the new research shows that 150 million people are now living on land that will be below the high tide line by mid-century 30 years yes that's not that long like you need to fucking begin planning for that now.

You need to quit telling people stuff. Yeah. Right. Yeah. That long ago. You keep warning them about stuff, like the bus, and now this. We gotta quit telling them.

Right, and we just move to a mountaintop together and take the bus there. From LAX. Yes. It's $8. It's wild, though, just how, I wonder how that mistake happens. Is that because of the way these satellites are programmed

that, like, at a certain point, you think, wouldn't it just be better to have people on the fucking ground taking those measurements? Or because it's such a broad analysis of the entire globe, you have to use satellite imagery? I mean, I more wonder how the

fuck they get even close in the first place because i don't know how science works but yeah you're right you're right it's just yeah i it it seems like they need to be uh you know looking at whatever the lowest point is right because that's just averaging out to think just right now right that if the if that those calculations are corrected, 150 million people will be displaced in 30 years. Right. Like, that's a fucking alarm.

We gotta get started on the walls. Right. Gotta get started on the walls. Yeah, exactly. They're like, how do we keep this corralled? That actually is, they said that, you know,

this can be combated with, you know, levies like in New Orleans, you know, the entire city of in new Orleans, you know, the entire city of new Orleans is below sea level. Uh, but it's, I think Billy meant walls to keep displaced people out.

Oh, sure. Oh, I just like building walls. That's what I thought. Yeah. I build them around my heart. It seems like what the,

that would be the solution in a 30 year chaotic world where they're like, I was just making a joke out of how dumb people are. Yeah, right. I got to protect myself. Right. We got to protect our stuff with a wall. And you're like, I don't think that's going to. Yeah.

Yeah. Man, it's wild how these calculations. Evidently, I bet they'll float up to the top of the wall where the water is and just jump over. Jump over. There you go. That's because there's no ground on the other side of your wall. I paid $60 for your DVDs, man. Thank you.

I like your teachings. Yeah, well, it reminds me of that Mars orbiter, like atmospheric orbiter thing that crashed in the 99 because they didn't convert English units to metric or vice versa. Because it's still dudes doing it. Yeah. And by dudes, I mean humans. It's still people doing it.

And probably disproportionately men, to be honest. Without a doubt. But I think it's also like, Michael Crichton was kind of talking about this before he died, about how because a lot of this, not necessarily this, but sort of this idea that because a lot of scientists, that English is becoming the sort of dominant language that's being used in the sciences, that it forces a lot of scientists, that English is becoming the sort of dominant language that's being used in the sciences, that it forces a lot of people to learn English and begin

thinking in English. And the way, when you speak different languages, you arrive at certain ideas differently based on like linguistic characteristics. And if everyone is using English, then people will, there won't be enough varied ways of problem solving that people are all going to see the same solution. And it could be totally a terrible error based on this lack of diversity and how we're even analyzing things. There's even a theory that because of – like there are languages that have basically no future tense or their future tense is more connected to their present tense. Right. And those languages are generally better at preparing for the future. Like they smoke less, they save more money than cultures that speak English because the

way we describe the future is as though it is a, you know, a fictional location. Right. That will never arrive. Right. That will never arrive. Hey, you know, a fictional location. Right. That will never arrive. Right. That will never arrive. Hey, you die tomorrow, man. Right. Yeah, exactly.

But that's tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah. Today we need to fuck each other. That's right. That's right. Remember, yesterday you said tomorrow. Mm-hmm.

Great motivating quote. Hell yeah. Free beer tomorrow. Is that a, is that uh who was that was that i don't know i saw that or dave matthews i saw that on daniel van kirk's phone actually yeah and i was like oh interesting he said you said you said tomorrow yesterday huh sick motivational that is motivational but billy if you wouldn't mind taking a breather i want to tell my friend miles here about my favorite suitcase.

Right now? Miles, that's me, Jack, from work. Should have been ready for that. Yes. And my favorite suitcase is made by a company named Away. They make an amazing suitcase designed to last a lifetime. They give you a 100-day trial on everything they make. So, I mean, I'm telling you, man, you got to try this company.

This is going to be very awkward. You're not telling me anything I don't know already. I am well aware of the Away brand, the strength of their suitcases, the ease of use for their products, the four independent wheels that move in 360 degree motion. So you can really get free. But do you know about the battery? Yes, I know about the battery. That's like the best part of the bag. Actually, that is actually my favorite part of the carry-on bag that we have, is that it has the USB charger. So in a pinch, you can keep your peripheral devices charged and ready to go

because most planes nowadays, they're like, we're not going to invest in screens in the seats. So I hope you brought your iPad or your iPhone. Yes. Yeah. And guys, for $20 off a suitcase, you can visit awaytravel.com slash TDZ and use promo code TDZ during checkout. That is awaytravel.com slash TDZ. Use promo code TDZ during checkout.

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Speaking of travel, Miles, let's travel to our nation's capital, Washington, DC, and the whistleblower scandal. We're taking it back to the basics because- Back to basics, great. Yes. Christina Aguilera. Because we got some testimony a couple of days ago that suggests that what, what we came to think of as a transcript, we just, it was like,

we reflexively wanted to describe it as a transcript because that's how it was written. It was like Trump. I think it was because it was presented as such. Yeah. That's why I was like, Oh, this is a transcript.

And certain things were transcribed in the technical sense. But is it a full-on transcription? Turns out, no. No. What? Yeah. So, yeah. Lieutenant Colonel Vindman, during his testimony,

basically let them know that there were, as he says, crucial words and phrases that were omitted from the White House document that the public saw. And people were like, oh, shit. Okay. Well, we figured that. Right.

Because there were so – and a lot of the reporting was like, this is probably like eight minutes worth of conversation missing throughout this whole thing. And now we found out that – No, we just didn't talk for a little bit. Right, right, right. You know how you're comfortable with somebody and you just sit there? Yeah. That's what we did.

We were both watching the same show and we were watching for a second and then we're like, damn, did you see that? Yeah. We're like, can you believe that? Actually, but first, investigate Joe Biden, homie. I would imagine that Trump, while on important calls with foreign leaders, would like distracted by the TV.

Oh, yeah. Like laugh and be like, sorry, sorry, I was watching something. Or he's like, turn it to channel 11. Yeah. That's not the same channel for me. We don't have the same channels here. 11 doesn't exist. Come on, just turn it to channel 11.

You should. Channel 11 is the best. I have BS too. Well, you're missing out because channel 11 is amazing. Well, so the things that we're missing, right, included the president's assertion that there were recordings of Joe Biden discussing Ukrainian corruption and an explicit mention by President Zelensky of Ukraine of Burisma Holdings, which is the energy company that Hunter Biden served on. So it was a perfect call. Perfect call. Very perfect.

Perfect call. Very perfect. But apparently they're saying that there are recordings of him saying that he was saying that that prosecutor who was like dropped or dropped the case should be let go because they're saying this dude isn't doing enough. But as we already know, that timeline doesn't match up in terms of like what Burisma was being investigated for and the timeline of Biden asking this person to step down. It was legitimately because this guy wouldn't hold anyone accountable. Right. It wasn't like, hey, he should go because don't make it hot for my hunty boy. Right. And, you know, another point that Vindman was making was that if Ukraine engaged in this like very highly partisan investigation, then they would no longer be seen as like an ally by both parties right which is a

threat to national security um yeah and they're saying now they're that like they're kind of worried it's a threat to the security of our nation yeah which could what was that last part people killed uh well people are already you know dying in ukraine right fighting the uh forces that are backed by russia but we'll just call them russia it is kind of funny to think because you know he uh the the white house released the memo the fake transcript and then we're like it's a perfect call so they like cut the stuff that they thought was bad only to find out that like they just hadn't even gone deep enough with their cuts essentially. I wonder if they try to do the thing where they're like, leave enough stinky shit that we can weather so we don't take a full blown L of trying to hide it. Or they're just that dumb.

Yes. I don't know. But that's a miscalculation. I'd say number two. Yeah. I'd say dumb dumps. Right, because it's sort of like when you if you ever copy and paste this shit

for an essay, and you're like, let me change a couple words. It feels like it's me, but really, look, if they really pressed me, yeah, it is what it is. I can tell you I'd do that right now if college students are listening. What you do, you find the sources of the paper you're cutting and pasting.

You cut and paste those sources so you know where they come from. You also change the transitions from paragraph to paragraph. You have to write those. Right. Because that's where your voice is. All you're doing is and you're not even really cheating

at that point. You're just taking research from somebody else. See, and I got this all from your DVDs that I bought. $60. I'm just telling you. I knew how to do it. Low, low price. Well, yeah, because you know.

$60. Five easy payments of $60. And you get two DVDs. You get the DVD system. And when you die, you go to heaven. Oh, that's right. Yeah. And a ticket to your show.

And a ticket to your show. For free. Yeah, I don't. It doesn't. Look, it doesn't change much in terms of like what we understand what happened on the call but it does give a lot of new texture to this now because it's clear that this person he twice tried to have them like edit what they were going to release publicly he's like this isn't this is misleading yeah and they're like yeah thanks for that vinman right and they put out this shit and he's like what the fuck are y'all doing yeah i either hold up oh no that's what he was just no

that's something i'm seeing from people who are reporting on this whole the whole progression of the impeachment inquiry is that like now it really seems like there's not going to be any room for Republicans to argue the facts. So now it's going to be them arguing. They're going to have to start arguing that it's not worth, it's not bad enough to remove him. Well, that's the thing. It was the whole idea of like there actually technically wasn't any quid pro quo because the aid was released and they didn't do the investigation. Right. The whole idea like, well, it's attempted murder right it was an attempt listen we couldn't

you stopped us before we got to murder that guy so what's the problem so you what yeah which is the shittiest defense it's not it's not a good spot to be in but it is i mean how we've always worked right that's why nixon got away with Watergate, because Watergate wasn't a successful robbery. Robbery, right. And why we let Hinckley go, because Reagan didn't die. So yeah, I mean, we just let people go if the explicit intended target of their crime. They start arguing like, well, OJ did that shit and they acquitted him.

So what's real anymore? Yes, exactly. That is the world they're living in though. What is real? I think. Yo. Those guys. Yeah.

Well, I think there's people who probably are such like lizard reptile brain that they just need to do what has to be done that they don't consider it. And then I think the people who have half a soul left are kind of being like, what is my reality? I thought we were playing a game. Yeah, I did just think there was some people in there that were like, this is – some people are going to get hurt. This is just a thing we did.

I just wanted to be like, you know, get some free corn on the cob at my state fair. But, yeah, I think the thought I come to a lot is like, to be like you know get some free corn on the cob at my state fair and but yeah i think more than i thought the thought i come to a lot is like those guys that are playing power and like donald jr right like someone like that like who's just saying because of whatever what does he think like is his day is his life getting better because of this or is his life worse? I would imagine. So we were talking yesterday about how narcissists are actually happy because they're incapable of feeling shame. that his life is completely miserable because he is compelled to seek the affection of somebody who's incapable of loving him.

Yeah, or have any empathy. So it's almost like being addicted to something. His life is just a nonstop quest for- He's chasing the dragon of a father's hug. Right, that he's never gonna get. That puts candy on top of the mink. Of a fucking, yeah. Yeah.

And I think someone put a tweet that is like, that is the mark of someone who has not interacted with their children. Oh God, no. Of like, yeah, just put this Hershey bar

on your dome. Right. You absorb it. You absorb it through your head. For people who don't know, at the White House Halloween thing, they were giving out candy and there's a little kid in a Minions costume.

He wasn't. He wasn't. Who? Melania was giving out candy. Melania. Yeah, yeah. Well, he was there, too. I mean, he did something.

He was there to be like, uh. He stood there. Nice garbage can costume. He's trying to give somebody candy. Yeah. He puts it on top of this. Of the Minion head. Who's also holding.

Had a bag. Yes, in front of him. For the fucking candy. In front of him. Like, fucking candy. In front of him. Like, here's where the candy goes and where all the other candy is. Right. And he's like,

this goes on your head, right? What are you, a yellow mushroom wearing overalls? And like a decent first lady, she does do it too. Yeah, she did it too. Okay, you fucking idiot.

And then it slides off and they were like, okay, fine. Right. I think she did it just because she's like, I really feel like she is're so embarrassing all the time. My respect for how much she is just holding this together

by the seams is growing, I think. I mean, unless she's got the same brain, too. Yeah, maybe she does. I don't know. She understands decorum. Cut me saying anything remotely positive about her. It's hard to. Well, I think it's like he's so terrible you cheer for another awful person yeah right that's the situation it's

like watching succession you know which one of the shitty people do you like right oh roman he's charming yeah he's charming god i would probably beat him the fuck up if I saw him in public. Nah, you wouldn't. He's charming. I don't know. Hey, Miles, what's up? No, but if you start doing all that ignorant shit around me, that's when I'll get my skin crawls. But I understand that's a very real kind of person.

Yeah. Where it's like charming, but fucking ignorant and heartless. Yes. Well, speaking of people existing in separate realities uh and streaming media which is how i'm watching wow thank you sir let's talk about netflix uh they have decided to test a feature uh that will allow you to speed up the video you are watching to like 1.25 uh to 1.5 or slower really busy if you need that shit in half speed what are you doing well they say a lot of people so it's on mobile only and they say a lot of people have been asking for this feature not me but they say it could be for

people like if it's in a foreign language that could help you learn. If you're trying to learn off watching something. Just slow down. Fine. That's for people who need it. I don't mind slow down. Speed up is where it gets weird. It's completely betraying the intent of the art

of what you're watching. We're telling a story in a certain way. With a certain rhythm, too, of how these things are laid out, the dialogue, everything like that. I get it with audio books. I get it with podcasts. You're just using your ears.

So, sure, if you can absorb all that information like that. But I don't know. Because this shit, what we do, this ain't art. Also, if you need it that fast because your brain's processing whatever, you can also figure out how to do that if you're that fucking smart. Do it yourself. Right.

Why do you need Netflix to do it if you're like, I just process information so fast I need to watch something. Then you fucking do it then, smart pants. You're just watching people jump around. It's an old-timey video of people, the Wright brothers, trying to learn how to fly. I don't understand how that's not going to get in the way of your ability to enjoy that but apparently uh Tina Fey was on a podcast I forget oh it was the Conan O'Brien podcast and she was she was talking

about how NBC did this shit to uh episodes of 30 Rock Rock like if they were like a couple seconds over or they needed like 10 more seconds of ad time they would just speed it up and wouldn't tell them what the fuck is this but like think about how that fucks with like the rhythm of the

whole show especially a show like that is so joke heavy what you need in joke, the kind of jokes they were telling are so timing based. Right. And that's what made that show, and if you're gonna speed it up like that,

I would, I'm just, I was just, I listened to that podcast, and then as you were saying it, I just got more and more livid again. I was like, oh, I would be, they'd fire me pretty fast. Yeah, that's why they say, Billy's yelling in the hall again

they've limited this like test to just mobile because they said a lot of creators were pushing back like do not fucking put this on tv shit like fine you're mobile people but like tweeted about it yesterday like a big long he's like this is fucking bullshit yeah and a lot of people have and i think you know that makes sense because it's completely betraying what the intent is. But hey. Cash rules everything around me, right? But it's wild though too. Like you're saying, where are we headed? Where now we're like, bro, I need to watch this movie at one and a half times the speed. I need it in my veins now.

This isn't fast enough. I'm not getting enough stimulation. Now, as I was thinking through this, I was like, thinking about Netflix shows I watched recently and Rhythm and Flow. I was, like,

it's a great reality show. Yeah. But, like, I felt like I was like, stuck watching it. It was so good. Right, right, right.

I couldn't tear myself away. I could see that sort of like, reality TV. Like, speed up the high so you can get on with your life.

And like, you want to like find out what happens. Right, right. But that's, you know. You can still fast forward that shit. Yeah, you can. But I did think of one

where it's like, I would love to watch The Civil War by Ken Burns. There you go. Without falling asleep. Yep. And I think that would be the only way to do that.

Yeah. They speed it up because his pacing is just like, oh, he wants you to feel how long it took that right yeah he wants you to he wants to put you in that mind space and then we had to before radio chattanooga right and that took another four days you're like I gotta go to bed. How much is a fortnight? It's 14 days, isn't it? No, it's fortnight.

I don't know. Oh, okay. I was gonna do four score and seven years ago. It's that sick-ass game. Yeah, it's 14 days. It is 14 days. All right. Cool. What have I answered?

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that that last story about Netflix sort of allowing us to speed up how we view their content. This made me think of, there's this BuzzFeed article talking about how the 2010s broke time as it exists in our brain. And they're just talking about all the different things. Like you kind of hear this all the time now, right? Like time has melted.

My brain has melted. Donald Trump has melted my brain. I feel like that happened four weeks ago, but it was only two days ago or, you know. Right. Or when we were like, didn't the impeachment thing start like last week and it's been five weeks?

Right. And in the 20 month, so they're pointing out that all this, all these things that change how we just interact with our world like came out in the last like since the i guess they say in the 20 months between hillary clinton's campaign announcement and trump's inauguration uh everything from apple music to hbo now to apple news launched or relaunched the amazon echo google home Home, and Apple Watch hit the market.

Publishers established the current form and tone of the news push alerts that you receive. Facebook launched a live streaming function and then deprioritized it when people started killing people on it. Instagram launched the Instagram stories. The Instagram stories, Twitter introduced the quote tweet option and has transitioned into a like algorithmically driven version. Yeah, rather than like real time. Rather than real time, you're getting. What they want you to read. Right. Yeah, what they think you're going to enjoy and continue to read. Like what's the most sticky thing. And this is causing. And what they want you're going to enjoy and continue to read. Like, what's the most sticky thing?

And this is causing- And what they want you to read. Right, right. There's also the thing you're saying, and I'm cynical, but yes, I think we'd be dumb not to be cynical, that they're also pushing certain things in there. Right. What do you mean? Like, just suppressing things that- What do you mean?

I just think, like, four or five months ago i unfollowed everyone as this yes exactly and you're also told you and you realize well it's also funny you realize who your friends are like really addicted to it because they're like yeah what the fuck dude and you're like well look it wasn't just you yeah right but i realize like i still have a feed right it's showing me stuff it's showing me tweets and i'm not following anybody right right so that's when i was like this is they're telling i mean to a certain degree they know what i want to see and what i've liked and stuff but also throw it off and just like everything sometimes sure right so but it likes my tweets i do like like a lot of yours you're

just thank you sometimes i don't like them just because i'm like he's getting cocky he's getting cocky with these one tweets a week what's he doing enough cool it two weeks in a row that is what so wow i'm enough cold brew my man the so is that sort of just sort of talking about the idea that because even Facebook, right, that timeline or whatever the fuck it was called before timeline, your wall or whatever, felt like a real-time thing of everyone posting things. I like Twitter because I knew what my friends were up to. At that moment. Yeah, and then so now because that sort of melted away, that just has like this knock-on thing of like,

when is now? Right. When is earlier? Yeah. Like, when is tomorrow? A good example they were talking about on the Press Box podcast was that Rolling Stone article that everybody was up in arms about, the list of the 50 best singers, singer-songwriters or whatever,

and everybody was like what the fuck bob dylan's number one this is such bullshit and uh people were like weighing in and then somebody pointed out that the article was from 2008 right that everybody was getting mad and he was unquestionably the best singer then yeah it's not even an argument he was so good that but it's like it's just like people, I don't know. Well, yeah, things pop up because we're like. Things pop back up. Yeah.

Yeah, we think we're interacting with things that are happening. What's that one tweet that keeps getting the shrimp fried rice? It goes viral like every week someone writes the same tweet. Like, you telling me the shrimp fried this rice? Yeah. Oh, wow. It's just a dad joke. Yeah.

It'll go viral. I'll see it once a week, somebody else retweeting it into my feed. And it's somebody else wrote it. Right, right, right. I think it's become a meme because of the fact that people keep writing it. And now I've heard it by like 30 different versions of it. Yeah.

They did do some takes that were pretty... There's some good ones. It's like every time at the end of a football game or something like a championship I always retweet Africa's getting so many t-shirts. Oh right after a sports thing.

Right. And they'd say everyone does that joke every time. But it gets retweeted a bazillion times. I mean, yeah. Like two people invented the light bulb at the same time in two separate cities completely independently of each other because that idea was just in the air. So that is happening constantly all around us.

Until they did that, no one knew how or when people got ideas though right that's exactly right and then since that time uh the the same light bulbs have been popping on over people's heads i've had a candle moment just yes i got mine uh when i lived in silver like we got it replaced to an addison bulb it's pretty cool. When I get an idea, it's a big ass one. How much does that procedure cost? I actually have been admiring that. Edison bulbs are everywhere. Too much.

Yeah, it's that and the vertical fence or the horizontal fence. Or the gentrifier fence. It's that and Edison. You're like, you know they have Edison bulbs in that house. The entire interior is an Edison bulb. And the same back. And there's a cardboard antler head. Yes.

Or a buck head made out of cardboard. Yes. Yeah. So I guess I didn't fully appreciate how much of this had changed in the last decade. Yeah, it really is something else, though, too. When you realize how we used to take in media or what we thought was even social media at the time, I went from, oh, all of this is in real time. Yeah.

To now, like, no, it could be from whenever. Right. And like how subtly that like affects you too, because Instagram goes from being anything like, yo, this is telling me what everyone's taking a photo of right now too. This is what's been happening the last five fucking days on Instagram. Yeah. And then I'm like, is that? the last five fucking days on Instagram.

Yeah. And then I'm like, is that? And you have, there is a version of you that exists on social media where they know so much about you that, yeah, like you were saying, Bill, you can stop following everybody. It doesn't matter. They still know what you're gonna like.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we exist in Black Mirror more now than ever before. Or they also know what you, this is a thing I've noticed, they know what you will respond to in a negative way and put it in front of you. Yeah, yeah.

Because they'll know you'll quote tweet it and be like, you see this fucking shit right here? Right. Because all they want is the interaction. So they're going to show you stuff where you're like, why am I seeing, oh, because you want me to be mad and you know I'll react. So that's the

manipulation part I'm talking about whether yeah no for sure um all right let's uh let's check in with what Bill Murray's been up to Miles oh god god bless him you know this guy is everywhere I think he did I think god did bless him he's got a pretty good he's got the only form of alcoholism that results in an amazing show business career. Right. Has helped him out. Well, you always hear these, you know, it sort of goes along the theme of Bill Murray of like, he's always popping up at a random party. Right.

He's popping up at this place. He's serving drinks at this bar. And now this is a thing that came out. He's running on the field during the Cubs game. He's pinch hitting. Now it's Bill Murray. during the Cubs game. He's pitched it. Alex Bill Murray, like, I think he's got a drinking problem. So he was on Amy Schumer's podcast recently and said that he applied for a job recently. They're like, what are you talking about?

He's like, yeah, like an actual job. And he said, quote, I did fill out an application at pf chang's at the atlanta airport because i think that's one of the great places and they were like okay uh when they asked like what do you mean like what did you apply for he just goes you know just to work there it looks like the best time so this so then like the pf chang's twitter was like you're hired bro yeah but i don't know if uh it's so funny i like when i think about bill murray like is he's just at that point he's so bored that he's like kind of being like yo that would be kind of tight let me just work at pf changs is this all a stunt is he that lonely does he just want that like he just likes to see the

surprise on people's faces when they're like oh my god bill murray just gave me this orange chicken i think he just he does whatever he wants. Right, right. Because there's no restriction. I think that's part of, I think there is like, he's probably just a really fun drunk. Right. But I also think that knowing enough famous people

without even, just because they're also human, they start seeing what the limitations are that's why a lot of them get in trouble right that's why the it's impressive when some people are just normal and famous we're like i don't know what they're doing but it's evil or something you know spell or something why are you so well adjusted yeah but well it's a lot of work to be that well adjusted but i think he started he started pressing like what are my limits like i can go to all these secret rooms i'm invited to all the hollywood shit i'm bill murray can i walk into pf chains pf chains right can i walk off can i walk over to this person's table while they're

eating and grab a biscuit from their plate and eat it and put it back down. And then say, no one will believe you. Yes, and walk off without anybody trying to fight me. Right. And then no one tried to fight him. Right. So he just kept escalating it. Yeah. Eventually he's just going to hit pedestrians with his car or something. Well, probably.

I don't know, 5,000 points, I thought. Or at least a golf cart. At least he'll hit something with a golf cart. Sure, sure, sure. I think he's got enough people around him that they'll be like, you can't drive anymore. Right. I think he'll be like, cool, limitations, finally.

Right. Yeah, just waiting until somebody says no to him. Yeah, that's all he wants is, I just want someone to tell me no. It would be nice that that guy in charge of the PF changes would be like, hey, Bill, you've got to put the things in. Right. You've got to marry the ketchup. He's like, God, thank you. Yeah. Now I don't. the P.F. Changs is like, hey, Bill, you've got to put the things in. Right. You've got to marry the ketchup. It's like Bill Emson.

He's like, God, thank you. Yeah. Now I don't. This sucks. Yes. Before, I could just do all the drugs and everyone loved me. William, William, can you come back here really quick? Yeah, you're putting hoisin sauce on the wrong dishes, man.

Yeah, you're not. The guide is there for a reason. You should know how to assemble these dishes. And he's just like, this is the best, this is the most fun I've had in years this shouldn't be fun this is pf chang's william i feel so you're doing the job wrong if this is fun yeah so free oh there's no buns but he famously like he doesn't have representation right like he doesn't have a standard it's a voicemail yeah i think he has a phone number you leave a voicemail and then he he calls. I'm sure there's, that's like the legend, but I'm sure there's like, just knowing how all of it works. But he doesn't have, there's a lawyer or fucking somebody.

There's probably a lawyer, but it has to be. But he's typically the one who fields his own call, or knows what his opportunities are. Well, he decides if he wants to call back or not, because he listens to the voicemails where people are like, hey, we want you to play FDR, the HBO he's like cool i'll do that we want you to play general pf he was a drunk yeah i'll do that right it's how he ended up in the garfield movie because he thought that uh the joel cohen who wrote it was from the coen brothers and not just a random dude uh so he really did think that? Yeah. He explained to somebody in an interview,

he was like, yeah, I really regret doing the Garfield movie. I thought Joel Cohen was the Cohen brother. That's an alcoholic thing to do. As someone that used to drink quite a bit, that is, I recognize what that was. I thought that was something else, and then I was too far in to admit. Yeah.

Some people are just really, really good at being drunk. Well, and then even years later, that's also a drunk thing to do is admit it, not hold on to it. Exactly. I would feel so much shame about that. I would never tell anybody. I would quit my career.

And he just goes and does a Rolling Stone interview. The movies that dude wrote is pretty interesting. He wrote Toy Story, first of all. Monster Mash movie. Money Talks, if you remember, with Charlie Sheen and Chris Tucker. Yeah, it was a great movie. When he goes, I'm sorry, your wife is fat. PHAT, Pretty Hot and Tempting.

Goodbye Lover, Cheaper by the Dozen, both Garfield movies, Evan Almighty, Daddy Day Camp, Gnomes and Trolls, The Secret Chamber. Damn, this dude stays working. Then kind of stopped after The Last Godfather, which is a South Korean comedy film. Interesting, he got into South Korean films. It sounds like he made his money.

Yeah, after Toy Story, I don't know how you go back to work. It sounds like he had a contract that he had to fill because those are all big studio movies that make no sense as an artist. But if you're just a writer and you're like, I wrote Toy Story as my first one. I could retire, but then I have to give them the money back. So now I have to write cheaper by the dozen.

And Toy Story is like animated movies don't pay writers shit because it's not a guild thing. Animated movies are not written. It is now. It is. Because it wasn't in the 90s. No it was not. Goddamn.

Motherfucker wrote Toy Story and he's like am I seeing... Sorry. It was a buyout yeah we talked about how the writers of the lion king didn't get shit right for that movie being like a multi billion dollar success that's right anything for that aladdin they didn't get shit for that at least they don't there's not reminders of it everywhere right yeah you know who who can remember those films anyway right um all. All right. We wanted to bring in super producer

Anna Hosnier for a book report. A book she's been reading over the course of a number of weeks. So Calvin and Hobbes. It is. It's actually a Farside collection. A collection of those Farside. Love Bill Larson.

And I keep hearing it brought up in the Zeitgeist. So I wanted to, like once she finished, I said, let's have you on. It's your producer, Anna Hosnier. And report back to us about Demi Moore's autobiography titled,

Demi Moore. Love having you on, Anna. Inside Out. Inside Out. Sorry out sorry sorry i couldn't remember because i just remembered as that demi boar demi boar demi more more memoir a memoir yeah love it no i feel like every day you would come in and go, oh my God, guys, Demi Moore's life. And we're like, what the fuck? And it would be completely out of nowhere.

And the stories, though, that you were telling us are mind-blowing. If Demi Moore did not turn out to be Demi Moore and was like, I don't know, just had- Any other person? She's like a hygienist somewhere? Well, not even that. Like just didn't, basically like overdosed on drugs at a very young age i'd be like yeah i understand her life was so fucking hard right she had the toughest life of anyone i mean and i i grew up in vast privilege so um not, but. Oh, you dropped your pearls.

In the sense that like I've always had like two parents who were always there. I always knew I could go home somewhere. I've always, I never felt like I didn't have anyone to turn to. Right. So to see her life and she was raised by two like raging alcoholic parents who they would divorce, breakup, divorce, breakup,

divorce, breakup. Dad was always getting beat up by mob members. Mom was always using her body to get ahead. Like a lot of stuff, which, you know, Hey,

no shame. You do what you got to do. People come from certain circumstances where those, that's what they end up doing. Yeah. That's the hustle. I mean, but yeah,

just to like kind of underline, like for our younger listeners, like she was so iconic like in the 90s. I mean, it made me I had never seen the majority of her movies and I watched Ghost for the first time the other week. Oh, really? I was like, well, again, I was raised by Iranian parents who were not letting me watch movies, really. So like I hadn't seen anything during her the height of her success right um and they didn't let you watch the one where the where they fuck a ghost no ghost fucking

that's funny because like uh great film um it is a good movie but like is it he's they're gonna fuck a ghost well i, well, let's be real. It's Whoopi Goldberg. I mean, it is. It's an interesting. Well, we won't get into the. Yeah, it's an interesting movie. Great film.

Go watch it. But yeah, I mean, it starts from her birth where she had like kidney problems as a kid. So she was already kind of struggling to finding out her father's not her real father but no one wanted to tell her right because they were like what oh yeah you never asked that's the vibe like everyone's like her mom is just like uh back off hey don't be weird yeah don't be weird that's like the so you're like okay well this isn't a great start um you know then it goes into how she got into acting and a lot of her drug abuse and kind of how like Joel Schumacher made her get sober. He was going to like kick her out of her production.

So she did like a rehab program that a lot of Hollywood producers kind of helped her deal with. But of course she, you know, it's, it was a different time. of helped her deal with but of course she you know it's it was a different time and it sounds like she would be she would have ended up like dead from an overdose she said if they didn't do anything i'd be dead right like if they identified her talent or like you should sort yourself out or we'll help you or at least she had the support to for someone to intervene someone stepped in and was like i believe joel schumacher said, if I hear of you even drinking a beer, you will never work again. I will do what I can to-

And that's someone with the power that could ruin your career. Yeah, and so they stepped in, they put her in rehab, and they said, if you follow all the steps, get sober, we will make sure you go far. We will help you if you make the effort to clean yourself up

because you have this talent. I mean, it's sad to say, at the time, you have the looks, you got it going on, you're part of the, what was it, the brat pack? The rat pack. Yeah, she's the brat pack. I can attest. She's sometimes in the yoga I go to.

Did you say hello? Yeah, no, I've never. Hello, Tammy. I didn't recognize who she was at first, and my wife didn't. And I was like, oh, that hot woman in the middle? She's fucking gorgeous. And I didn't realize. And she's like in her 50s, I guess now?

Mid-50s. Hottest woman in there. And we're in LA. And from Roswell, New Mexico. Yep. Question marks. Yeah, she's gorgeous. But raised all over.

Her parents, they, she was, she basically, this is, the parents had a great hustle. They would use different names everywhere they went so the creditors could never find them. Wow. So they were constantly like, she basically learned to hustle from her parents who were constantly keeping it on the go. Like, someone wants their rent. Right. Let's move here.

Like, it was and then she did end up in la at one point and that's kind of where she got um those are all good la skills oh yeah that's like i mean a chameleon learning how like learning how to identify other hustlers yeah what they're up to and to avoid or team up yeah yeah that is like a darkest part uh this the problem with coming to la is something we've kind of been discussing in the office is that younger women tend to be treated as if they're older. And that's a lot of Demi Moore's youth was kind of like, she may have been 15, but she was treated as like an older woman. And men, you know, tend to... Men who are way too old to her tend to flock to her

and she's not, she's insecure. Very vulnerable. She doesn't know how to deal with it. She doesn't have an idea of like structure and, you know, commitment because her parents. Or love even. And there is a situation where her mother may or may not have basically whored her out for $500 to be raped by a restaurant owner in Los Angeles. So here's your one chance fancy don't

let us down yeah jesus christ it's it's uh she still to this date doesn't know if her mom actively did it but she definitely gave that man the key to her their apartment and that man paid for their next apartment so it's very dark and from there it's kind of a spiral until she gets sober she's sober for about 20 years, has her kids with Bruce Willis. They divorce, gets with Ashton. And then it's a spiral down when Ashton Kutcher says that he doesn't think alcoholism is a real thing. Again, he was like 25, 26 when this happened. And she was like in her 40s.

Which is true to somebody in their 20s. Alcoholism is not a real thing. We were just talking about this. It's just a state of mind. It's like you go from like, yo, dude, Rob parties, man. Like, have full parties. And then you get your 30s, you go, Rob is an alcoholic. Rob stole our jet ski.

Yeah. Right. Rob shit his pants at the bar. Well, because like, yeah, when you're at that age. Rob can't come to our wedding. When you're at that age, you really have no context for it because culturally your youth is about just fucking, you know, doing the most and shit. And like, yeah, you get to a point where you're dealing with someone who actually has substance abuse issues. You're like, dude, it's chill, it's chill.

Yeah. And I think. Well, you have to recognize that too. Yeah. As a person. Like we, everyone has to be like, oh, I can't. You can't be that guy. Yes. You can't you can't be that guy yes you can't yeah and i think

she she goes in retrospect she's aware of the situation now but i think at the time it was tough for her to see outside of it because she was like oh wow like someone is showing her attention and they're connecting on such a strong level and she just wants to be like cool and young for him which is hard because you have like a 20 year age difference that you want so badly to be this person for this person that you really like and they like you. And so I think she kind of lost herself there. But after they broke up and she kind of, you know, you know, I'm assuming went to a lot of therapy based on how she writes about it and got sober and figured her life out that she's truly at peace now. And that's a great way the book ends. It's like she's just like-

Throughout that chaos. Yeah, through all that, she finds herself. She's living in her nice house in Idaho away from everyone just looking up at the moon. Didn't- At peace within herself. When she started getting fucked up again, didn't she almost OD on something

that's hard to OD on? Like laughing at? No, I think what happened was she was just in a really bad mental place. She wasn't eating. That's the thing. She also struggled with eating disorders her whole life. Yeah, she's really skinny. That was the thing I noticed about her. That's because in one movie, she gained like 10 pounds.

Imagine her now. She gained 10 pounds. Still so skinny. And a director was like, well, you're going to be in a bathing suit, so I really can't have you being this fat, basically. Oh, yeah. And she was like, oh, cool. Remember G.I. Jane?

Ooh. She would have fucked everybody on Earth up. G.I. Jane, she did the training for it. Yeah. She went through the entire training, and they didn't think she would survive. They were actually getting really scared that she might die in the training. And she was like, no, I have to do it or no one will believe me.

And then she was just that strong. And then I think Bruce was kind of like, girl, you're too buff for me. I've got to go. Well, that's most of that Navy SEAL training is all mental stuff. And it sounds like her whole life has been leading up to that. She's like smoking a cigarette. She's like, this is fucking easy. They're like, oh, hey, Master Chief. No one's tried to fuck me. This is great. She's like smoking a cigarette. She's like, this is fucking easy. They're like, oh.

Hey, Master Chief. No one's tried to fuck me. This is great. She's now Master Chief. She came out of striptease to do that. So she'd been working out for striptease as well and then came into that. And I think that,

but she did all the exercising and did the whole like, you know, whatever that. Bud's training. What are they called? The special forces? Navy SEALs. Navy SEALs. And yeah, so she, whatever that. Bud's training. What are they called? The special forces? Navy SEALs. Navy SEALs.

And yeah, so she went through that whole training. And then the only thing that, I didn't know this, but apparently it's the thing where they say like men are stronger than women. It only applies to upper body strength because we can't get to that certain level. Because she said that most pull-ups she could do was three. After all how buff she was because i guess that's the thing and they told her it's like it's not like it just is that weird fact of just women can't get to that level of that was before crossfit though that was

before crossfit which is like a it almost makes me want to be like while i'm not on crossfit i know it's kind of crazy like i can't i could do like one pull-up before i pass away I know, it's kind of crazy. I could do one pull-up before I pass away. Literally, she's dying. Welcome to the funeral of Anna Hosni. She died tragically mid-pull-up. I remember when I realized how crazy her life was, just going to the same yoga,

was that there was this Australian guy that our teacher really loved, and he was beautiful. He had the weird dreadlocks that pirates beautiful. He was like this, he had like the weird dreadlocks that pirates have. Oh, like white people dreads. Yeah, but not in the way that you're like, that's awful. You're like, that's cool. This dude looks

cool. Oh, because it's like nearly like it looks like you don't wash your hair so they become dreads. Yeah, most of his hair was like flowing and then there's like a dreadlock like a pirate would have and you're like, and he's like buff. And like I remember seeing him be like, I don't know who that guy is but stay away from my wife man like i can't do anything just stay away and then they slowly they started you know and then they were a thing that like he was always right next to her and then like a couple weeks

later aaron and i were at the grocery store. And in the gossip things, it was her and him. And I was like, hey, look, it's the thing. And you're hiding it from her. I'm like, don't look at that guy. I was just so excited. I was like, hey, look. And we knew it was. So we opened up and read it.

And it was like, yeah. And they were fucking in the shower of the yoga place. And it was so loud. And Aaron and I were like, there's no shower at the yoga place. That's true. She always says, she talks about how much she hates tabloids in it and she says,

there's always, most of it's fake but there's always one thread of truth and that's what really fucks you up because you're like, how the fuck

did they find out? And it's like, well, the thing is, they met at a yoga place. The rest is kind of like exaggerated but there's that one thing

that like really fucks with your head apparently because it's like, well, how the fuck would they ever find out that one thing that like really fucks with your head apparently because it's like how the fuck would they ever find out that one thing to then blow it up into the crowd. Well, my thought was like she's told them that because like you don't notice anybody that doesn't belong in yoga. It's like – That's how good the tabloid people are.

That's what I'm saying. Or it's just like they know somebody was like, oh, yeah, Demi Moore is dating this weird pirate dude. Now that I think about it, I was an extra guy in the yoga class who had a bunch of GoPros on him. No, that teacher would be like, get the fuck out of here. She's mean and cool. I really recommend the book. It's very interesting.

You also hear about Bruce Willis' wild ass days, like partying with Woody Harrelson and John Goodman. Apparently they all hang, because back then, you know, no Uber Blacks. So they were like all hanging out of their like limos at the top being like, woo! And just that imagery of like Woody Harrelson, John Goodman and Bruce Willis just fucked up. Well, that's before cocaine was bad for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So they were all like just partying really hard. But I don't know. It just brings up this like kind of really funny, nostalgic era of Hollywood with all these dudes who were like young and just out of their minds but then now are like great actors I'm really only talking about Woody Harrelson

Bruce Willis is an icon Bruce knows his spot he picks his spots he's the kind of guy who like I'll die doing this stunt because I need to prove I can do it well he's also kind of funny about his image. I like that too about him.

Yeah. So it's weird because I didn't care about the fact that Bruce Willis and Demi Moore were married, but they were the only two actors who I would go see a movie just because they were in it. I was like, Bruce Willis movies were my favorite genre of movies. And Demi Moore, I went and saw G.I. Jane because she were in it. I was like, Bruce Willis movies were my favorite genre of movies. And Demi Moore, like I went and saw G.I. Jane because she was in it. Still haven't seen it. I will watch it.

It's good. Oh, it's great. It's great. I think. Does it age well? Has to. Hard to say. I don't know.

Ghost aged well, I thought. Oh, yeah. Well, it's just a timeless love story. Ghost fucking. Jack and I were like, it's just timeless. It's just a great love story yeah

the working title was fucking a ghost Jill Schumacher came in and was like no saved your career twice

yeah yeah anyway big recommend and I if you don't have time to read

I recommend the audible version because Demi reads it herself so it's like you're there with her. Can you speed it up though? Yeah,

you could. 1.75. I'm taking in information so much. Gorgeous. Well, thank you, Anna. Where can people find you

and follow you? It's Demi now. Okay. Demi Hosniye to you, sir. That would be awesome. I'm at Anna Hosniye on Twitter and I will just be there for the rest of my life.

Okay. Well, everything was going well until then. Billy, where can people find you and follow you? It's been a pleasure having you as well. At Billy Wayne Davis on Twitter, at Billy Wayne Davis on Instagram, although I'm locked out of my Instagram, although I keep gaining followers,

which is pretty fun to check in on from time to time. But you can follow me. We're working on that. And then touring-wise, this Friday and Saturday, I'm in Seattle. First show is sold out. I know. That's nice. And then there are three others.

There's a late show Friday and two on Saturday. And after that, I'm in Atlanta, Houston, Huntington, West Virginia, Birmingham, Alabama. All that's on BWDtour.com. Thanks for letting me get that out. Yeah, yeah. Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes. Desi Jed, she said, I didn't think anything could be stupider than giving a dog a medal, but then Trump photoshopped himself giving a dog a medal.

It's just a wonderful way to put that. Yeah. Shout out to that dog. Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Some tweets I like. First one is from Tamara Yahia. Yeah.

At Dances with Tamis. Past guest. Don Quixote had a long, skinny dick, and Sancho Panza had a short, fat chode. Great. Another one is just from Dana Gould. Fats, domino. Chubby, checker.

Think about it. Yeah. How about it? I did, what happened Someone's playing checkers Robert Schultz tweeted I'm at that age where all my closest Friends already have kids because they're My mom and dad

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