The Daily Zeitgeist - To The WALZ! Cat Lady Quip Costly? 08.07.24

Episode Date: August 7, 2024

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Maybe that's hard. Oh, no, no, no. That actually looks bad. No, no, no. Get out of there. Get out of there. That might be too far for me even. Yeah, you're right.

You're right. You're right. No, you, no. Get out of there. Get out of there. That might be too far for me even. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right. No, you're right. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Got a really otter man. He loves a otter man, y'all. Okay, I Miles Gray, a.k.a. Otter Man, Otter Man, Otter Man. Got a really otter man. He loves an otter man, y'all. Okay, I just thought of that in my garage because the AC is out and everything is furniture still. Everything is J.D. Vance. We will not let go of the misinformation because it's all about, you know. It's the vibes. And we believe it. It's the vibes.

We could move on to eyeliner, but we're not going to. Because I actually don we believe it's the vibes we we could move on to eyeliner but we're not going to because i actually don't believe he's wearing eyeliner i just think he has those lashes exactly i said that from the beginning he's got that natural eyeliner thing going on you know what i mean a lot of people love you know i i tried many supplements to get my eyelashes to be that thick and nothing works yeah so i wear eyeliner so and that's why i wear thick mascara that's why i use sharpie because i'm a man who doesn't know about makeup yeah doing my makeup with magic marker yep to quote christine and the queens miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the creator and co-host of the webby award

winning podcast unladylike and the creator and co-host of the Webby Award winning podcast on Ladylike and the creator and host of the new podcast Conspiracy, she wrote. It's Kristen Conger! Hello. Welcome. Welcome back. Thanks so much for having me back. Oh, of course.

Of course. It's good to have you. I know we were talking about heat in our respective recording spaces. Is it already the temperatures are getting up there for you two? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'm in an attic, an un-air-conditioned attic in Atlanta. Okay. Yeah. No. No, you shouldn't be there. That's my commitment to the pod. Yeah, I appreciate that, but get out of there. I am in an un-air-conditioned garage in the valley where it is so hot.

Also, just, yeah, we're all contending with the elements at the moment. But it's so funny. I was wearing a black T-shirt and then producer Jess was like, bro, you should maybe put on like a white tank or something. Not a black shirt. Like that might upset. And I was like, you're right. You're right. I need to have as much as my my skin exposed so this is not my normal podcasting

uniform i will have you know this is it's usually a full suit and tie right yes absolutely yeah of course of course we're we're a black tie podcast not a basketball jersey wearing podcast. That's right. Well, you have a new show about conspiracies. Conspiracies? No. No, let's just say conspiracies. Let's go with that. You bailed on that, yeah.

But it's about conspiracies involving women. It's about conspiracies spread by women. Yes. Which I refuse to acknowledge happens. Yeah, you're all in on

conspiracy misogyny. Yes. Gender supremacy. Only men. Yeah, you're all in on conspiracy misogyny. Yes. Gender supremacy. Only men. Yes, only men. Yeah, only men are smart enough to come up. Yeah. Right.

To come up with them, for sure. Wait, so how did you kind of, like, land? I mean, I feel like conspiracies always intersect with the zeitgeist and things like that. But, like, what were you looking at? And you're like, hold on, man. Like, this is a complete, like, we need to be talking about conspiracies in this completely different way. So what I have done basically

for my entire podcast career, I make shows about women, talk about women. I'm always asking, where are women? What do women have to do with X, Y, or Z? So that's my baseline. And in 2020 during like peak pandemic q anon spread a friend of mine was totally q-pilled oh wow and randomly presented to me as if i would I would be interested in some very wild QAnon conspiracy theories.

And this was also when, I don't know if y'all remember, hashtag save the children. Oh, yeah. And, you know, Wayfair child trafficking conspiracy theories popping up everywhere. And these are the theories that people were trafficking children via like ordering furniture on Wayfair. Yeah. This $4,000 cabinet is called Natalie. Right. Right. Right. And Natalie must be a person because it has child inside. It comes with a free Natalie. So that was I mean, that was in not to be too on the nose that was in the zeitgeist right i was really shaken to my core when all of a sudden it was literally like sitting socially distanced

across from me and so i asked the question i always ask where are where like, what is going on with women and conspiracy theories. Surely there's a bunch here. Because my, like, in my mind at the time, the stereotype I had, and it's still somewhat kind of true to form, is that conspiracy theorists are Alex Jones types, Shady Vance types, you know, just like angry men yelling. And it turns out that it's a lot more nuanced than that. And women play, I think, a really essential kind of gatekeeping role in mainstreaming conspiracy theories.

Because if we look just at QAnon, I do not think that it would have had the power and spread that it did if it had not captivated so many women who then started spreading it through their Instagram feeds and their mom groups and yoga circles and all of that. And it really kind of shined a spotlight on these kinds of spaces where conspiracy theories can also thrive in that kind of spirituality, wellness, adjacency, anti-vaxxer sort of space. So that's where I started. You're just looking to fill that hole for a woman conspiracy theorist. You're going to be the woman Alex Jones.

I got it. Okay, cool. Yeah. Well, actually, maybe more like a woman Joe Rogan. Nice. Because he's making a lot of money. I think Alex Jones now is having financial troubles. Yeah.

I want to make that big money and get a Netflix special that will not leave anyone's screens ever. I was about to watch that to see. I wanted to see with my own eyes. But then this second it started, I was like, I have so many things to do. And I can't do this, it turns out. Yeah, yeah. Did not have the fortitude for that. I think I might break later.

You never know. All right, Kristen, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the Veep Stakes have happened. And she picked walls, baby. She picked walls. I was relieved. I was kind of a little bit surprised, a little giddy.

Most people were very surprised. We're going to. Yeah, we're going to talk about the pick. You want to win Democrats? It feels like they might want to win. Yes. OK, so we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about how the Republicans are responding.

We're going to talk about J.D. Vance's childless cat ladies comment because he made it it's still kind of resonating out there his wife tried to make sense of it and i don't think it helped that much all of that plenty more but first kristen we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? My Google search history result is summer 2024 nail polish colors, which I'm sure is at the top of y'all's search history, too. I already knew. I go into every season knowing what the color palette is going to be. But yeah, you're prepped.

So what's the end? what's what's this summer what's the summer for the for the fingernails and toenails this year so well the summer colors i mean bold red is always in and a lot of honestly it's really boring a lot of like pale pinks and neutrals and then some greens here. I'll show, where's my, oh, I don't have my, that's what I, I went with a soft green. A mint green? Yeah, sort of like a slightly deeper shade than a mint. And what this says about me is that my new podcast is launching this week. Okay. I'm talking to you. And I've got, you know, I'm excited, but I'm also anxious. And what I do when I'm both excited and anxious is I paint my nails. I find a new color and I paint my nails because it is the one thing, I'm sure y'all have things like this where it's like, all I can pay attention to for like 10 minutes is just painting.

Nailing it. Yeah. These nails. And it's just a, it's just a mind, kind of a mind release. A little, a little meditative break for a moment. And I get a pop of color on my nails. Yeah. It's like a, it puts you in a flow state.

It sounds. You know. Do y'all have flow state things like that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I mean, recently I started like drawing more and coloring more, which again, I think, and

it's probably similar to painting your nails because like I'm a bit of a perfectionist. So like staying in the lines is like very important so like having an activity that's like stay in stay within the lines and i'm sure like with it's funny i remember watching like my mom or like my grandmother paint her fingernails and like when they mess up i'm like oh god like i would be stressed out you're gonna have to clean that up like it's all over your cuticles and like it comes easy. And I'm like, okay, well, I'm a child who doesn't know they have perfectionist issues. Not helpful, Miles. Yeah.

Ooh, you fucked up. Ooh, yeah. Can you stop breathing down my neck? Please. But yeah. No, that and driving. I also like driving. That also helps a lot.

Because it requires a bit of skill and focus. I like to do laundry, fold laundry laundry pick up shit around the house after my kids you know oh tidying up something just a little tidying yeah a little bit of tidying my mom loves doing dishes she hates cooking she'll always be like if i like cooking she's like just let me do the dishes she's like yeah she's and she's really good at cooking too which is wild she's like no it's the dishes I like. Just don't like it. Yeah. No,

like if she has people over and people are like, Oh, let us help you. She's like, no, I want them all to myself. No, like truly she's like,

these are mine. You back up. So yeah, it's, it's always interesting what, where people find that. But yeah, it's always good to know what,

what, what brings that out of you. I wish mine was like carving things out of wood or, you know. Yeah, but you clean house. That's so helpful and productive. Yeah. Mine is not that. I'll say that.

Like, I have to be like, do I got to? And I'm like, I'll do it later. And then it piles up. And then I'm in there for. But it actually takes a lot to very quick to fold things. So yeah. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?

All right. I don't want to step on our upcoming segment about JD Vance, but I got to say, there's a lot of talk going on about childless cat ladies these days. Underrated. Can we hear it for the childless dog ladies? Yeah. Yeah.

Seriously. You better say seriously you better say you better say yes because you're talking to one yeah right and um i'm here to say that yeah i'm ruining population the the population as well so right you have no you're a sociopath because you have no as you it's so what do you say it's like sociopathic because you have no stake in the future of the country yeah i have no community it's only me and and my dog i don't even talk to my husband you know we i'm just i'm really just stay in this attic and i'm um just waiting for my uterus to wither so that i can no longer be a contributor to our gd. I care about other people without a biological imperative. It makes no sense.

Truly. Truly. What's your, what breed is your child? Sounds so weird to say that. I know. Sounds like some slavery shit. They're like, what's the breed of this child? Yeah.

Uh-uh. Something old people ask me and my wife. Because you're mixed race kids. Because we have mixed race kids. What breed is your child? Can I see the teeth? I have had to ask my mom to not refer to me as Brewster's mom. Like, mom, I fully get, like, I'm a human.

He's a dog. He is like a Maltese poodle mutt. Okay. He just looks like a little mop. Right, right, right. That sounds adorable. I love that. And was this named after Punky Brewster, Brewster's Millions?

I don't know what the inspiration was, like where it came from, but I like Punky Brewster. I'm going to claim yes, that they were somehow seated in my mind there. Love Punky. I don't know why I brought up Brewster's Millions, the often talked about John Candy and Richard Pryor movie. I didn't even know what

Brewster's Millions is about, but when you said Brewster I was like Brewster's Millions. My brain just completed that as Brewster's Millions is about, but when you said Brewster, I was like Brewster's Millions. My brain just completed that as Brewster's Millions. The 80s really wanted children and the elderly to be friends. I'm thinking about Punky, Mr.

Miyagi, Doc Brown. It was endless. There was just a special bond between the elderly and children in the 80s that i don't know why because we haven't really done it since then have we has there been like a major film where like the core relationship was little miss sunshine that's a family yeah you know that's true right but like her and her grandpa i mean it really isn't even about that but that was like i was like oh her and her grandpa, I mean, it really isn't even about that.

But I was like, oh, her and her grandpa. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. Lord of the Rings? Great point. How old is Gandalf? Big age gap there. Massive age gap.

Hundreds of years. The Venn diagram of punky Brewster fans and Lord of the Rings fans. Twilight, the ultimate one because of the age of the vampires. Sure, sure. Bella's age. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's just morphed.

Yeah, we're still doing age gap relationships. We're just making them more fantastic. What is something that you think is overrated, Kristen? Okay, controversial take, but Noah Lyles' 100-meter Olympic photo finish yesterday, I believe, to win the gold. I'm calling it overrated. Specifically, the photo finish of it all, because it took me too damn long and too much Google Imaging to figure out how he was the one

who won. Because the other guy's foot was over the line. Yes, yes. And I had to Google too long to figure out because I'm not a runner. And I didn't know that it's who's ever chest crosses the line first. Not even the foot. Even the photos of the finish that I've seen don't show his chest crossing first. I'm like, what the fuck is happening here? Which of the lines is happening here which of

the lines is the line we are supposed to determine yeah right you know what i mean like it's the i guess what they're saying is like here's the first line this is when noah lyles crossed okay so that's why his is first this is where keshane thompson's crossed was there so truly like but it's so close that it becomes a philosophical question of like what is chest and like is it the center of your chest right is it the shoulders the shoulders could be seen as top of chest like it's the tip of the nip right exactly yeah what like do we need to put like sensors on everyone's nipples now to like do we have an agreed upon can you game it if you wear your bib higher or lower i don't know right it is wild though cone bra of some kind

madonna style but it's like it's actually very aerodynamic too just like pad your bra. Like what if you just like padded a sports bra and went out there? I think they do have rules about things like that. But yeah. I don't know. Look, it takes someone to-

One that I've learned and I'm kind of an expert on this. It takes a Donald Trump of track to really bend the rules to see what our limits are for sure. Folks, what's even happening here? It's lawless. What even is a chest exactly? When you guys watched it was there like they crossed

the line and then he says jamaica has it and then silence for 30 seconds because i saw a replay and there wasn't silence and so it made me think that i like got some sort of defective feed the first time around but what do you mean really like it was like the guy said Jamaica has it and there were maybe there was like a sentence or two after that but it was like total silence until Noah Lyles like took his thing off and showed it to the camera and then we were like oh so, so he, like, they didn't say he won. Like, you had to, like, put that together. It was, and I was like, oh, did they cut the guy's mic because he said

Did you watch it live? Yeah, I watched it live. That's weird. I didn't think the feed went out. I just remember, I remember hearing commentary in between about how they're now looking, waiting to see like, this must have been close. Maybe my brain was just so tense it shut off.

I was like, why is there no sound coming in? You were asking, what is chest? Yeah, what is chest? What is chest? What is chest? Yeah, it is wild, though, too, to think of just how close just everyone else behind them was too yeah like fred curly was also right in there also and it's like yeah dude that's sorry that's a bronze medal and you're like i i thought i i'm gonna say i felt like i maybe beat the fastest

guy on earth maybe not no you're the third fastest now go sit down it all feels a little it all feels a little arbitrary like there there was a gymnastics floor routine did you see the gymnastics floor routine medals where like they gave what an american like a score that put her in fourth and then the like as they were getting ready to go on the podium like the u.. coaches appealed and they were like, actually, she's in third now. Like this like Romanian girl just got kicked off the podium. Oh, I didn't.

Weeping. Devastated. Yeah. Oh, wow. It was high drama. Yeah. In the Olympics. Oh, yeah.

Oh, that's how Jordan Childs. Oh, I didn't. I didn't even know that. I did not know that. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Okay. But yeah, it all seems somewhat arbitrary. But hey, always happy to have a jingoistic USA metal being worn. For sure. For sure. Yeah. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about walls. and talk about walls.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And word came early yesterday morning that Kamala Harris had chosen chosen walls and not shapiro and yes big big upset or kelly it sounded like too that it shapiro was in third that's what i'm hearing from my sources inside the harris campaign no that's what like people from the news yeah Yeah. That it was always Kelly or Walls. It was either Kelly or Walls. But yeah, I think we're all shocked because I think most of the time when it comes down to the stretch in election years with something high stakes as this, you're like, and when will the terrible miscalculation occur? Where everyone was like, I'm not an expert, but I think the freaky guy in the Jason mask isn't the best VP

pick and they, and the teddy bear. Uh, and yeah, they went with Tim walls who again, like a lot of unions were saying like, this is that we like, we prefer this guy. And a lot of people came out to sort of voice their really like more came out to really support their support for walls and saying like, we don't want Shapiro. But I think it was interesting to see it's like oh so is is someone on the harris campaign like on the ground of earth like talking to regular people and not consultants all the time yeah i was just i was so fully convinced it was going to be shapiro, just based on, you know, a lifetime of seeing the Democrats like be on their Clintonian triangulation thing, you know, where it's just always attack to the right to offset any hint of progressive policy, because progressive policy is a monstrous

liability in the eyes of the mainstream media. And so that became, like, there was a lot of energy behind Shapiro. Obviously, he was, like, the betting favorite. He was the mainstream media's, like, chosen pick, or, like, the one that they seemed to be like, this is the one that makes sense because Harris needs to apologize for her sins of being progressive in the 2020 election. Right. And it just feels like the Democratic Party almost always falls for that. Yeah. Yeah.

Just seeing them fall for that year after year after year, it was surprising to see them. It's like, are they letting them do more than, them do the right thing more than once in a row? Yeah, that seems to be the take. Some people on Twitter are like, two good decisions from the Democratic Party in a month? It does feel weird. Not to use Tim Walz's fantastic word already. I think these guys are weird. They're doing the right thing over and over. Not to like, you know. Use Tim Walls' fantastic word already. Yeah, the godfather. When these guys are weird, they're doing the right thing over and over.

I really thought that it was going to be Kelly. I mean, partly because of he has some name recognition and the astronaut factor. Right. But after I listened to an interview with Walls over the weekend, and now I'm not surprised at all because it was, I think, the first time that, but he's talking about like fully left wing policies. But in that kind of in a way that I would usually hear from like a GOP candidate. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, right. Like, yeah, really, like, it's talking about policy without like, you're sort of getting to the heart of policy without getting into the wonky bits of policy where I think a lot of people this is what's also interesting is like the labeling of

like progressive or radical because like tim wall tim walls is doing a lot of great progressive stuff like is he radical i wouldn't say he's radical but again i think that's what i think what's good about his appeal is that he puts a very normal face on stuff where people like is that he puts a very normal face on stuff where people like school lunches and he's like yeah so kids can have a full belly so they can learn like you know like that's his response to attacks like that he's like yeah so if that's like wacky then sure dude like i'm fucking wacky because i believe these things and yeah i think that along with his like very just like laser focused articulation, even though many people like like have been talking about how odd and weird the Republicans are. It was his way of saying it that just stuck in a way that still has like Republicans on the defense or they're still trying to like, we're not weird. OK, but my daughter's objectively the hottest woman on Earth.

And you're like, uh, uh-huh. Okay. Go on. The only, the only concern I have that I'm sure a thousand like armchair pundits are tweeting about right now is that they just can't, they just can't make it the weird campaign. You know what I mean?

And I think I, I get the sense that the Harris campaign knows that they have to walk a fine line with that. You can't just do it over and over and over again. a slight evolution on Biden's previous campaign, which is like democracy's on the line. You fuck get out there where the same version is like, like just gesturing to essentially what the Democrats love to do is just to gesture to the right and be like, see that? I don't know. Policy over here. I'm not going to really talk about it because that's so weird over there. This at least rhetorically is trying to at least sort of be about values, like with her talking about freedom and like, we're not going back that it still allows them

to kind of draw from that well of being like, well, we're not them while also hinting at like some shred of progress. And I think that's where I think a lot of people, myself included, are like, now let's hear what these policies are like, what does this, and what is this administration going to stand for? Because that's the next hurdle that they have to overcome. But I think picking someone like Walls was really great. And also, like, I was just hearing him talk about, like, football. You're like, oh, yeah, this guy, like, he could even, like, just go on some bro podcast talking about how you turned a high school football team around to, like, one of the worst teams ever to, like, a state champion. Did he really do that? I didn't know that. Yeah, he was turned a high school football team around to like one of the worst teams ever to like a state champion he's got you really do that i didn't know that yeah he was like

a high school football coach like before like yeah he's he's got like which is like a local version of an astronaut you know what i mean yeah i mean he's friday night lights coach taylor yeah without the the scary shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I only watched a couple of episodes. Oh, no. A couple of episodes.

Is that not where it took place? Was it not in Minnesota? I think I was thinking Varsity Blues, where Jon Voight was the coach. Oh, yeah. He was a creep. He continues to be a creep, Jon Voight. Yeah, yeah. Of course.

Of course. Yeah. Oh, yeah, he was a creep. He continues to be a creep, John Boyd. Yeah, yeah, of course, of course. Yeah, but like the so his hometown Star Tribune was like, here's what you can expect from the Republicans here. Here are his weaknesses. They say expect to hear plenty about Walz's support and signature on a raft of progressive policies passed by the DFL-controlled legislature in 2023. In one session, this legislature enshrined abortion rights into the state constitution, provided free meals for all K-12 students regardless of income, and made Minnesota a sanctuary for those seeking gender-affirming care. those are abortion rights are extremely popular. Like free meals for kids is extremely popular. Like these are the but this is that mainstream media sort of understanding of how politics works, where everybody is actually secretly on the inside a centrist republican you know right right which doesn't really make sense because if that was the case why are none of the why have none of those centrist republicans remained in politics anymore why have they specifically been run out of the entire industry

yeah he's uh he like i again i think the other good part is that he comes without the sort of like a lot of baggage that would take over like a lot of the policy discussion or just administration discussion, like with Shapiro, given his comments, especially like with student protesters and things like that, that were protesting against the genocide in Gaza and things like that, that to have someone like that, where it doesn't immediately come to the forefront and now like activate sort of like what was kind of beginning to fracture whatever coalition the Democrats were trying to build, like, is just like, good. Okay.

You have momentum now. I mean, obviously the questions are still going to be asked of like, you know, what this administration's policy will be in regards to like Israel and things like that. But at the end of the day, I think they, they, they, at least they, they took a vibe check and we're like, okay, I think, I think this is, we'll, we'll keep this going. They have plenty of people on Twitter who just like, they're like, I don't like to treat, you know, politicians like celebrities.

Like, but I loved him and i just met him four hours ago and yeah and i think it speaks to how deflated a lot of people felt going into this election prior to biden dropping out where i mean you know we were pretty resigned to being like it could go either way but it feels like trump is firmly in the driver's seat and this is definitely upended that. And I think because of that, allowed, you know, the Harris campaign to look at who the VP pick was outside of just being like, we have to win Pennsylvania, because right, like what the polling showed a lot of other places suddenly were like, oh, we're in, we have other paths. Now, it doesn't purely have to go through Pennsylvania, although that's obviously a big bonus. And also, as we talked about, VP does not secure their home state most of the time. Like, it doesn't make a statistical difference in terms of, like, bringing VP and your performance in

that home state. So how are Trump and his side dealing with walls? Are they doing pretty well? I'm assuming like they're probably just okay yeah they're fucking it up dude with how cool they are kaylee mcinerney who you know used to be the former press secretary she was on fox being like oh they're cheering in mar-a-lago and i was like and that's where i needed to hear like ron howard's voice pop in she's like they were actually crying because like you know it i think again for like for people who hope to not see donald trump be president you're like oh this is a pleasant surprise this guy goes like a lot of people are like is kamala gonna cave to the left by picking tim walsh and like most people

like this this isn't caving to the left in the way you think it is because he clearly has so much more appeal like to other like like the larger electorate. But when the announcement came, Trump sent out a fundraising email immediately with this subject header. Tim Walz will unleash hell on earth. That's what the fucking subject was. It goes on. It says, quote, he'll unleash hell on earth and open our borders to the worst criminals imaginable. unleash hell on earth and open our borders to the worst criminals imaginable he'll rubber stamp kamala's green new scam and light trillions of dollars on fire but the real killer he's already

pulled in millions in dirty cash to buy the white house none of this makes sense like what dirty cash to buy the white house he's a rubber stamp you say that about a congress person he has no vote so what is he rubbed like that's it that's that's an attack you put on someone who just will vote in whatever policies of but he's the vice okay sure it well it's just uh i like the selective use of all caps because it is all caps hell on earth yeah that's the thing we're talking about here and it's just kind of an ai mad libs of fox news buzzwords right yeah some people were pointing out i think it was in the daily beast they're like it feels like this truly was a mad

lib or like whoever the pick was they were just going to be like josh shapiro will unleash hell on earth mark kelly will unleash hell on earth like that was all they had. And then you're like, Tim walls, like the guy we've seen, like holding, like hugging a pig and like hanging out with his dog. The guy who was like a high school teacher and football coach. And then like,

there's, you know, there's this image of when he signed that school lunch bill, like where he's surrounded by smiling children who are like, like genuinely excited to be near him and you're like this guy him hell on earth for who so this is definitely not like the coastal like lib they were prepared for and that they really the only vp person that they were even prepared to talk about was kamala so you know even like the latest polling from like Republican pollsters

has Trump losing more ground to Harris. And like now they're like in a statistical tie in Pennsylvania. So he's there aren't a lot of wins coming for Donald Trump. And that's probably why he had to come up with a new, terribly scathing insult for Kamala which feels like a bit like from arrested development i hate to keep evoking arrested development here but he says people vote with their stomach and food is now at an all-time high because comma blah biden incompetence comma blah okay god got her ass and you're like what with them in charge it will only get worse and most you're like is this one of these like adderall typos or something what the fuck is this then he goes on next paragraph kamabla has stated over and over again that she wants to defund the police

and without question ban fracking no more fossil fuel this will quadruple the cost of energy in america depression anyone not a question but a statement depression anyone depression anyone okay saying the quiet part out loud depression anyone kamabla harris kamabla harris is afraid to debate me on fox news kamabla is the worst v. That's what's in the tank right now for them. Kamabla. Kamabla's loblog. Yeah.

Kamabla. It is so just dog-whistley racist to my ears and eyes. And I'm not surprised that this new searing, new attack of comma blah came right on the heels of his appearance last week

at the National Association of Black Journalists. Yeah, sure. You know, questioned her identity and just lost his fucking mind on camera. Yeah. And yeah, I like what, what is that even supposed? and just lost his fucking mind on camera. Yeah. And, yeah. Like, what is that even supposed to be? Is that supposed to be, like, comma, blah? Like, blah.

Like, she's blah. Is that what he's trying to get across? I think. Her look isn't hitting. She's very blah. She's not stunning me right now. I mean, he doesn't. It's all...

It's hard to make sense of what it is. Because it used to be what? Crazy Kamala. Lion Kamala. Laughing Kamala. And you're like, what art? Like, huh? These all sound like cool people to hang out with.

You want to hang out with laughing Kamala? Yeah. She's crazy. Yeah, she's crazy yeah she's crazy she's the lion lion actually has more teeth to it than comma blah but again that's why i think you know his worst instincts are just going to get even worse because he's trying he's like okay it sounds like the racist misogyny isn't doing as well as i thought so what about comma blah and then he'll probably be like fuck it i'm going i'm just gonna go radioactive meltdown and just

just continue with like the new birtherism shit yeah is the food thing like the food thing seems like a potentially good angle for him to not i mean bad for democrats but you know it's that that is something that's noticeable is that food's more expensive now than it used to be. But he immediately dropped that. Yeah. Defund the police, ban fracking.

Well, you got free lunch guy now on the ticket. Yeah, exactly. He wants free lunch. He does look a little bit like, uh, the big Lebowski,

like the old, old Lebowski. Real men also cry. That's my one concern for him. Looks too much like old Lebowski. What will be Trump's nickname for Tim Walz? Because it does, I feel like that one is rich for, you know, Tim is a very rhymeable name.

You got Walz, Walz, I don't know, Tim is a very rhymeable name. You got walls, walls. Tiny Tim? I don't know. And he's like not a small guy. Too nice of a man who children like to hug Tim. Santa Claus, man. Oh, no. You're like, Santa, what?

It's like pizza guy. That's something that you still believe in in your age cohort, isn't it? Yeah. When he was like talking to a 12 year old like that's something you're interested in right right you're still i'll pat you on the head like a dog now because i know how to be around kids i mean like but to the point with the high growth like the food prices the ftc i believe yesterday or on monday announced that they are going to investigate food prices at major grocery stores just to be like what is like what are y'all

doing like what's going on so yeah they at least grocery stores just to be like, what like what are y'all doing? Like what's going on? So, yeah, they at least I mean, I think that would probably be the response from Democrats is like that is something they're looking into. But then at the same time, would Donald Trump suddenly be like, we need to rein in these corporate profits? They are beating us dry with these food prices, because, again, it's easier to just be like kamala harris wants the food prices to be high and that works with most people who are not thinking critically at all and sure like it doesn't matter what he says because they'll always support him but to anyone else they're like like well from but who who benefits from high proof like it's not like kamala harris made a bunch of money off food prices being high right those are the companies that sell the food and make the food that are reaping those profits.

So, yeah, it sounds like it's still a very, very shaky time over there. But again, this is what scares me, is that this makes it, for me, so much more of a realistic thing now that the Republicans will do anything possible to subvert the whatever the outcome is like if it if it does end up that connell harris and tim walsh end up winning that feel like this feels like they're really going to prepare that's the outcome they're preparing for it doesn't matter anymore and the fact that like all of their usual attacks aren't working just feels like that's just going to put more investment in the subversion part of it the delaying part the refusal to certify results part of it that i think has like true potential to be really fucking chaotic yeah which and we talked about yesterday that a democratic election official was like and they are somehow like more prepared for this than the

democrats even though the democrats are in power they've been i don't think the comment was that they were more prepared compared to the democrats but compared to 2020 when it was like this scattershot thing of being like we don't like this is someone do you know someone there that can gum it up or now they're like we have people in place to fuck it up right right but yeah basically getting lawsuits lined up to file and to stop counts. And I think observers are like, from the Democrat side too,

are just as aware of like, you know, you'd think, I don't think they're going to get caught off guard, but who knows? Maybe the vibes are so good. They're like, and they're just going to have to accept that people love Tim and Kamala

and we'll move on. But the way they keep talking to their audiences is still like we're only losing if they steal the election and yeah that sentiment and plus like i i it's true like you look at like jared holt who comes on the show a lot who does a lot of like uh right wing like observing and analysis and monitoring. He's like, the thing that's also kind of wild is the MAGA world is truly kind of like, fuck, are we behind now? And how that manifests or metastasizes into something more sinister, I think that is yet to be seen.

Or maybe that's just part of the playbook. It has not been revealed to us from the Republicans yet. Yeah. Yeah. The statement from the Democratic election lawyer, Mark Elias, to Rawlings, I think we're going to see mass refusals to certify the election. Everything we are seeing about this election is that the other side is more organized, more ruthless, and more prepared. So whether that's in comparison to the Democrats or in comparison to last time, it's bad either way. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, again, and this just the L after L that is being taken just feels like another reason for them to go like, fuck it all. Like, fuck it all. Like, fuck. Who gives a fuck? Like, we're too invested in like this fantasy takeover that they've been that's been swimming in their head since last fall pretty much when and i think that the all the right-wing weaponizing uh biden stepping down how it's a kamala coup i mean that is also playing into this you know denialism which if you know obviously if democrats win

because that's the other thing the vibes feel very positive right now for this hot second on the left but it's right it's not like she's run away with anything at the polls yeah yeah exactly exactly and we'll see what this vp pick does uh and how that affects things but yeah like it is true i think that's what's also just weird is it's been what a lot of like fuck since like 2015 basically you know because like even with biden it was like yeah man like we just gotta fucking get this fucking guy out man like yeah fine it's biden whatever close your eyes fucking stop this yeah pinch my nose yeah and people were fully prepared to do that again and now like for it to be like wait like the kids are fucking with this you got like you got more unions

getting behind this there's a lot there's just that it yeah that level of positivity has been not i feel like it hasn't been this sort of tangible in a really long time. Yeah. But I don't know if Trump continues to call her a comma blah. I feel like we're in trouble. I feel like, you know, she's not stunning.

She's failing to wow with her look. Like, is that what he means? Blah. Like, I don't know, man. Well,

and it's kind of contradictory to how what a what a radical she is yeah right can you be like a a radical a blah radical that's right yeah yeah it's like are you a threat or are you uninteresting because you can't like sort of drum up this like these feelings of like imminent danger if it's like oh there's comma blah but it's such a childish it's like during while someone's talking being like yeah me me me me me me yeah yeah being like you're boring it's like oh it's like what my six-year-old does to me. Oh, so bored. Anyway. All right.

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And we're back. We're back. And the other VP pick on the other side jd vance has gotten less enthusiasm online than i think they were hoping for definitely less than walls where i'm looking where are you looking so his 2021 comment about childless cat ladies like kamala harris aoc and pete budaj has kind of become a rallying cry for democrats so he's he's like just feels like he's constantly in damage control yeah he tried to go on me Kelly's show last week,

or her podcast, I should say, and claimed that his casual misogyny was only directed at Democrats, not any other cat lady, just those three. They're bad. Yeah, yeah. They're sociopaths, not our beloved cat ladies.

Yeah, not you guys. He just has the energy of someone who's been given just endless benefits of the doubt his entire life. Right. And he's just like, yeah, no, I said that thing about cat ladies, but not you, babe. I was like talking about other cat ladies who don't like have kids, but not you, even though that describes you. And like up to this point in his life, it's just like worked out for him. And so he can just kind of ride with it. But it feels like he's kind of pissed off a lot, a lot of people. Reportedly 47% of adults over 50 without kids

say that they're unlikely to have them. And 64% of young women who don't have kids say that they simply don't want them. And this is just another example where the GOP are clearly the hot dog meme guy just being like, somebody crashed through that window in a hot dog truck. Because Republicans have been slashing federal funds for child care and education and then complaining about people who choose not to have kids. maternal health, prenatal health impacts of Roe v. Wade being overturned, like all of their policies. I mean, women are scared to even, even if they might want kids, they are probably scared to even try because if there's a pregnancy complication, like you might not be able to get help. Right. Like I was just like hearing from like in Texas too, that because of the laws there, like a lot of OBs are not practicing in the state. And that is leaving a lot of like,

like people who are like, like thinking of pregnancy, like, dude, there's like an OB I can't see for like another six months. Cause there's like, they're only one in for miles around because so many people are afraid of what the laws are going to do if anything happens under their care that now yeah like to your point it's like prenatal care is like coming at a premium in certain states because of just like the lack of access to even doctors who are like the risk is just too fucking high uh for me to even practice fucking medicine which is obscene but yeah again please tell us about how this is the party that you want to help families. And it's not about just going backwards in time to control people's bodies.

That surely can't be it. Surely. Right. And just to say the quote up top, this is what he said. He said, we are effectively run in this country via the Democrats, via our corporate oligarchs, by a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices that they've made. And so they want to make the rest of the country miserable, too. Who are the childless cat ladies in power? He's claiming Kamala Harris because she's a stepmom, is a childless cat lady.

Right. Stepkids don cat lady. Right. Stepkids don't count. Right. Stepkids don't fucking count. Yeah. Does she own a cat? Maybe. Irrelevant.

Because it's like, again, it's like all this like perception. It's like, I don't know, dude. I don't even know. I've never seen her with a baby. She's one of these like bad people. Pete Buttigieg, because he's gay but he has each they have a child so i don't know where that goes but again i think it's just merely just to be like lumping people together to be like you know like gay liberals or aoc types of people who think they

can you know go to harvard and then talk bad me. They're they're they're the bad ones. They are the ones that we really need to look at. But I think like statistically, it is an odd comment to make because a lot of people are like, let's crunch the numbers real quick on the cat lady thing. Like, yeah, is this does this have an effect on electability, like in a measurable way? electability like in a measurable way so it's like in arizona where trump only lost by 10 000 votes in 2020 uh reportedly 236 700 of the state's voters have cats and at least 10 000 of them are women so what are you gonna do now like in pittsburgh the second most populous city in pennsylvania nearly nine% of women have cats. And yeah, like then there's like, I think we talked about this when he first said it, like the Swifty thing.

Because everyone's like, our Godhead is a cat loving person without children. We have activated now. She must hate America. She doesn't have any reason to want the future to continue, want America to continue into the future. Yeah. She doesn't have a kid. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. I mean, what do you think just generally? Do you think cat people or dog people are more politically engaged if we had to make a generalization? I'm just trying to think because I don't want to be like, I don't know. I feel like cat owners might be pretty savvy. Yeah. think because i like i don't want to be like i don't know i feel like cat owners might be pretty savvy yeah as as a childless dog lady yeah i and this is no reflection on myself in my own political engagement of course but i think cat i think cat ladies i think cat yeah people yeah the cat people would be like hold on man uh like. Like, I pay attention to things. I like an animal that... Yeah, they're like, I have this pet because I can leave it for extended periods of time.

It can poop on its own. Like, I can just leave a big old dish of food out. It'll portion itself out. Like, you know, they're thinking ahead. You're not using that freedom to just go out and, like like vote constantly and get out the vote, knock on doors. I was planning to vote, but I've got to dig out my dog. That might be the new thing they started saying. Like dog people are the real Americans.

I'm like pitting cat and dog owners. Like what if you have both? Both? No such thing. There's no such thing. It's an either or situation in America. No such thing. There's no such thing.

It's an either or situation in America. One Taylor Swift fan chillingly claimed that J.D. Vance has, quote, secured his own demise. Which, like, I love the... Yeah, talking like they're... Nothing more terrifying than, like, an offended, you know, Taylor Swift or, you know, just Stan. Honestly? Yeah. Yeah. They're organized.

They get organized. They get organized. yeah they're organized they get organized they get organized and they're vocal but then like there's also this thing too where obviously this had a ton of fallout because people like what the fuck like this just again shows how regressive and like one-dimensional like republicans thinking are just like on any person that lives in this country, that his wife, Usha, had to go do like a, like a very controlled interview on Fox, because obviously, like, that's what that's there for. It's like, let's pretend this is spontaneous, but merely this is a platform for you to rebut something terrible that your husband said. This is her talking about, like, what this is what let me just explain JD really quick.

And I don't know if this makes much more sense, but again, this is Usha Vance talking to Ainsley Earhart on Fox about what the cat lady comment actually meant. There are a few comments that are out there that I have to ask you about. In 2021, JD said, we are effectively run by a bunch of childless cat ladies

taking aim at government leaders who don't have children. What was your reaction? Well, I mean, I took a moment to look and actually see what he had said and try to understand what the context was and all that, which is something that I really wish people would do a little bit more often. And the reality is, he made a quip in service of making a point that he wanted to make that was substantive, because he made a quip in service of making a point that he wanted to make that was substantive and it had actual meaning um this is such a like lawyer preamble that like my hairs are standing like i get it yale it's like you're such a yale educated lawyer that you first start i'd be like it's really important that like we're able to like look at the context of like okay

what the fuck do you mean first of all everybody listening to this should be ashamed of themselves just to get that off off jump yeah yeah okay go on go on council and i i just wish sometimes that people would talk about those things okay and that we would spend a lot less time just sort of going through this three-word phrase or that three-word phrase because what he was really saying is that it can be really hard to be a parent in this country. And sometimes our policies are designed in a way that make it even harder. And we should be asking ourselves, why is that true? What is it about our leadership and the way that they think about the

world that makes it so hard sometimes for parents. And that's the conversation that I really think that we should have. And I, I understand why he was saying that. Okay. Wait, first of all motherfucker he was saying that he was like trying to big up the welfare state like he was trying to get people

like parents more help that was what he he was like we should give people more paid leave what that's where we just time on child tax credits? Expanding child tax credits? Wow. I did not see that at all. We need her to do more readings. That was like a psychic reading level stretch. Actually,

if you look at the first letter in each of the words and then you create a word scramble out of those right and yeah it's like that that couldn't have been further from the general vibe of what he was saying yeah yeah yeah i i i'm also unclear how a the childless cat ladies but also i'll even toss in the corporate oligarchs. Like how's that making your day-to-day life

as a dad really hard? Because I'm also going to guess JD Vance is doing minimal childcare. Oh, did you hear that quote about shut the hell up about Pokemon? No. He said that to his son? Dude, yes.

Hold on. He was on the fucking bro podcast, the full send podcast where Tucker Carlson was talking about his love of fucking Zen pouches. Oh, yeah, this shit is wild. Because again, JD Vance fucking sucks. So this is him, like surrounded by like that, like weird, fucking seltzer, like happy dad or whatever the fuck it's called, like happy dad seltzers. like happy dad or whatever the fuck it's called like happy dad seltzers and he's talking about how he missed like the call from trump that he was going to be the vp because his kid just this is this is this is how he like tries to relate to some like childless dudes so uh hey i'm like oh no so i call trump and i'm like hey sir what's going on he's like jd you missed a very important phone call and now i'm to have to pick somebody else. And I tense up and almost have a heart attack.

And the crazy thing about it is my son, who's seven, is in the hotel room with me. And he's really into Pokemon cards right now. He's going through a Pokemon phase. Are you guys into Pokemon? I am. Back in the day, yeah. That's a big phase right now, I think, in general. Yeah.

Yeah. So, I mean, he's really into it. So he's trying to talk to me about Pikachu. And I'm on the phone with Donald Trump. And I'm like, son, shut the hell up for 30 seconds about Pikachu. It's the most important phone call of my life. Please just let me take this phone call. Wow.

Such a cool guy. I mean, he's so funny. All those guys are so funny. Yeah. Like his way to like relate to is like, hey man, I can be a dismissive absent father too. I fucking hate my kids, man. You know he didn't say hell.

You know he said shut the fuck up. Hey, why don't you shut the fuck up about Pikachu? Do you know how important I am? Do you know how important I am? Go on, Mr. President. Yeah, I got him to shut the fuck up about Raichu also. Sorry, man. He's talking about all the evolutions.

But yeah, like... So you don't think he's an involved dad? That guy? Can you shut that? But he's just, again... Honey, would you get this little fucker out of here talking about Pokemon or whatever? Or do you think he does a thing where he's like,

hey, your son's talking about Pokemon again and bothering dad. Your son. 1,000%. You know what I mean? That old move that I've heard before. Like, your son. You sound like your mother.

Yeah. Yeah. Talking about that or expanded child tax care credit, child care credits, or how difficult it is for people to be... It's so funny. Again, all of these things are so much tied to quality of life and like the social safety nets we have in the United States, which again, the Republicans are for destroying all of them. We need, we need an expansion on these kinds of programs.

Like, you know, like at a minimum, like what about a living wage? Like that also affects people's calculus. Why would, it's very difficult to even want to have a child or bring a child into the world when you yourself are struggling to have your most basic needs met. So to have that come from a party that stands for making life as hard as possible for everyone except billionaires,

it's like you're talking absolute horse shit. And I think that's why like everyone just kind of sees sees he just has this like vibe of like trying to reflect like whatever he thinks the people around him are going to want to hear so he's like all right i'm leaning back we're talking about zen pouches and stuff they're gonna love how i'm like dude shut up about pokemon am i right guys yeah and then like deep then like what he takes his clown makeup but like off at night every night he's just crying in the mirror because he's like yeah i've become this aberration i don't know i've sold his happy clown makeup off and there's a sad clown makeup underneath she has the same thing that ivanka ivanka is the daughter right not about yeah ivanka

had i remember who he's married to. goes in and like outcomes this like weird reinterpretation that makes it a like progressive policy that they can like live with like i remember her doing that like in speeches back before she was like distanced herself from the whole operation but yeah that was that was a stretch yeah to be like yeah i think what he meant was it's hard to be a parent and the government doesn't help us enough. Well, what? Yeah. I think he wants more paid parental leave and more support for parents. You want this to be the literal nanny state?

Right. Okay. Oh, my God. Then bring it. And she's kind of just advertising him as a really shitty communicator. Because what she had to say over and over again was, well, if you look at the context, what he really meant to say. You know what I mean? She's having to translate for him because apparently he is such a poor communicator. Because apparently he is such a poor communicator, not even off the cuff, when you are writing something so practiced and publishing it on X that you then need to have someone backfill that.

Right. No, that's not really working. But it does. I mean, I do love the trope the the wife who has to translate for her misogynistic husband yeah he's carrying on that tradition yeah like which might be the most relatable thing it's like yeah y'all i'm i'm related i'm date i'm married to a shit bag can y'all relate yeah am i right lady yeah All the women at the Republican rally. She's doing open mic shit. She's like, these guys are fucking babies. Am I right, ladies? They're like, he can't even heat up milk.

What the fuck is wrong with this guy? I don't know. But yeah, I mean, like that's funny. The milk again. Also three word phrases. Her calling it a three word phrase. All three, you know, the different three word phrases her calling it a three word phrase all the three you know the different three word phrases i'm just like yeah what are the other three i'm like what else are lumping like before that is like you guys are just weird certified couch fucker yeah certified couch fucker um yeah it's just like yeah convicted sex off You know, these are just three word phrases that are meant to completely rob us of any context.

And what my husband meant to say is we need more social safety net programs for parents. And we need to actually have an emphasis on prenatal care for expecting parents. That's all. That's all. Oh, is that not in the platform? Okay. Okay. Well, then you got me.

Well, Kristen, such a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? People can find me. I'm going to say follow Conspiracy, she wrote. Yeah. Yeah. Go listen to that brand new podcast. It's Conspiracy, she wrote on tiktok and instagram and uh you can also follow

me at unladylike media but this was so fun thanks for having me back guys yeah and is there a work of media that you've been enjoying okay uh i have a recommendation for uh Walz. My introduction to Tim Walz, if you want a really great conversation with him, is the recent Ezra Klein Show interview with him. This is such a dorky plug. I know, but the episode title is Tim Walz, The Midwestern Dad Democrats Need. And I'm recommending it because I really had no idea who this guy was before I listened to it. And by the end of it, I was contemplating, should I move to Minnesota? Right. Minnesota's having a moment right now. Like Minneapolis, for sure. I've been eyeing Minneapolis with a little twinkle in my eye. Wow.

All the bike lanes. I keep hearing great stuff. The gun control. The gun control. Lunch for kids. Yeah. What is this bullshit? I'd like to recommend Minnesota, actually.

That's the piece of media. Yeah. What is this bullshit? So I'd like, I'd like to recommend Minnesota. Actually, that's the piece of media. Amazing. Uh, miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying. Yeah. Find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray.

You can also find Jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got mad. Boost these. You can find me talking 90 day fiance on four 20 day fiance. Oh, and guess what? I'm on the latest episode of the illustrious Lacey, mostly scam goddess podcast.

Uh, so you catch me on scam goddess again for people. I, people think we have beef. It's going to be the furthest. Some people are, dude, I got a message the other day.

It's like, Hey, it's like, it's like, is everything okay with you and Lacey? And I was like, Lacey is very busy. She's what we call popping.

Yeah. So as much as I would like to have her be a regular guest, sometimes we got a pencil in the schedule. But no, rest assured, she will be back. She's just doing really well. And we love to see that. So a couple of tweets I like. First one is from at Platini underscore 954. This says the craft was just juice for goth girls. And I'm like, yep, I totally feel that. Another one is from at 420 weed team tweeted. No, babe, I like yours. You actually have a huge advantage at pole vaulting. And then at girl draws ghost tweeted nobody. And then RFK Jr.

I stole screws from the challenger. The amount of RFK Jr. Weird tweets that have come out are fucking next level. All because the guy was just trying to take home some baby bear. Just taking home some baby bear meat. Just taking home some baby bear meat. Yikes. Young. Very normal. Very normal. Very normal.

I was showing my kids and my nephews the Challenger video today. And I'm not gonna give further context than that. No, they just asked me. I don't know why. I guess they're like, Dad, can we see the Challenger disaster yeah and i was like sure and then my sister got home and she's like what are your kids were like we watched the challenger video and she was like how did they

react i guess that's what uncles are for they knew what was gonna happen and my oldest nephew was like yeah it happens 72 seconds in. They knew what happened, so I figured I might as well. They're acting like, yo, put that Ninja Turtles tape on. Yeah, go to 72 seconds in. Yeah, go to the fifth frame. Yeah, right there. Wow. Anyways,

bad uncle, bad dad. Well, I couldn't get them to shut the fuck up about Pokemon. You want more of this? I'm about to be on a podcast. them to shut the fuck up about Pokemon. You want more of this? I'm about to be on a podcast. Can you shut the hell up about Pokemon? Here, watch the Challenger video. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Cooper Lawrence tweeted, oh, you won a gold medal at the Olympics? My watch just congratulated me for standing up and then david lynch tweeted ladies and gentlemen yes i have emphysema from my many years of smoking i have to say that i enjoyed smoking very much and i do love tobacco the smell of it lighting cigarettes on fire smoking them but there is a price to pay for this enjoyment. And the price for me is emphysema. I've now quit smoking for over two years. Recently, I have many tests.

And the good news is that I'm in excellent shape, except for emphysema. I'm filled with happiness and I will never retire. I want you all to know that I really appreciate your concern. Love, David. Wow. I like the statement involving him just being like, God, smoking is great.

And I knew and I knew I knew someone would come with it. And it did. But I still like I like how just describe it like a cigarette lighting it on fire in the car. Smoking smoke into my lungs repeatedly. Let the nicotine be absorbed through my lungs. Okay. Do you think he's now a Zen guy? Yeah, maybe.

Maybe it's Zinch. Uh-oh. There's a promo op. That's right. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? This is a track from a German band I just started listening to called Strongboy, S-T-R-O-N-G-B-O-I. The track is called Flame, and it's just like, I don't know, like it's just fun, kind of funky, bedroom pop, breathy vocals. I've been on a kick like that recently.

I just like to have like dreamy kind of poppy, but also enough of a beat that you can nod your head to kind of vibes. And this track offers all of them. It's called Flame, and it's by Strongboy. All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning.

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