The Daily Zeitgeist - Tom Brady: Clone GOAT? Who Needs Air Traffic Controllers? 11.07.25

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

In episode 1961, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of Secretly Incredibly Fascinating, Alex Schmidt, to discuss… FAA To Start Canceling Flights On Friday, Nancy Pelosi Is Finally Retiring… In Two Years, Meta Is Really Taking Ad Industry Jobs Over With AI and It Looks Like Sh*t, Tom Brady Turns Dead Dog Into Sponsored Content and more! U.S. government shutdown to force flight reductions at 40 'high-traffic' airports Nation’s busiest airports face FAA’s cut in flights, initial list shows Which Times of Year are the Busiest for Air Travel in the US? Pelosi Plans to Retire in 2027 After 39 Years in Congress Pelosi is out. Expect heavy campaigning in CA — and cues for senior Dems in DC to follow suit. Meta Is Really Taking Ad Industry Jobs Over With AI and It Looks Like Sh*t Tom Brady Turns Dead Dog Into Sponsored Content We Can Clone Pet Dogs – But is that a Good Idea? The Real Reasons You Shouldn’t Clone Your Dog Tom Brady Says He Cloned His Dog. Cue the Critics. NFL great Tom Brady says his dog is a clone of family’s deceased pit bull mix Tom Brady Cloned His Dead Dog As A Brand Activation Tom Brady Cloned His Dog With a Company That Wants to Do a Jurassic Park Colossal Is The Real Life Blockbuster of ‘Jurassic Park’ and ‘Indiana Jones’ With Celebs Like Tom Brady Behind It ‘It won’t end like Jurassic Park!’ The man who wants to bring the mammoth and dodo back to life Colossal's de-extinction campaign is built on a semantic house of cards with shoddy foundations — and the consequences are dire Reviving the woolly mammoth isn’t just unethical. It’s impossible Report: Colossal Biosciences A Genetic Dating App Is a Horrifying Thing That Shouldn’t Exist LISTEN: Radiohead Dub by LockerzSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Shmitty. The equipment manager on our high school basketball team was Schmidt also. And his name was Matt Schmidt. And he could not, he was not good. So he was the equipment manager. But he was like the mascot of the team. And he was like, Schmittie. What do you know that?

Because again, it was all weather. We were weather happy. Everything was weather. When they do period pieces about the 90s, like the way that a Bronx tail opens and he's like, it was the 50s. There was a duop group on every corner. It'll be like, it was the 90s.

Everything was where that coded. Whatab? Snob! Snag. Hundreds of conversations. Every conversation opens with. Yeah, that's going to be from like, like our kids, great-grandchildren's idea of what the 90s were.

I think they were all just like, hey, dad, then we go out to eat the night. Like, no, there wasn't even just general affect on the way we spoke. Let's go to Alba. Albaugh, get some Alice Springs chicken, a little blooming on you. God damn, Alice Springs chicken, man. Woo. I want my baby, my baby, baby, baby. They're like, no, we actually sang that, like, a song.

No, this is how you guys talked in the early hours. It was all the Matrix and Budweiser frogs. There will be due up groups, but they'll be singing the I Want My Baby Back Ribs song. Oh, yeah. This is an I-Heart podcast. She said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night. Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying. Suicides that don't make sense.

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413. Oh, you look good up. It's, yeah, Western Mass. Western Mass. Hey, man, Pittsfield, Northampton, Springfield. We love yours. Holyoke. It's Friday.

November 7th, 2025. Oh, God, it's fucking Friday. All right, let's just leave it there. It's Friday. Boop, fuck, fuck, it's Friday. Wait, what the fuck? Oh, wait, hold on. Now, here we go.

It's National Fountain Pend Day. Get out the first. fucking quill baby okay yes uh it's also uh national jersey friday oh shit if you got a sports jersey it's your day i actually just uh i got a vintage one off ebay that i lost in the fire that i'm gonna wear that shit in a little bit national canine lymphoma wearing his day they did not have that when i was a kid because we were just letting dogs rock the tumors uh national bittersweet chocolate rock that tumor with but don't you remember i was talking about this early at a party i was like the amount of money we spend on pet care now versus my back when I was a kid it was truly like

oh shit man that dog tumor got huge huh yeah yeah should be right should be all right dogs he got a cantalope on its neck yeah no for real like I remember my friend's dog miles I always felt bad he had a huge testicular tumor oh we would always laugh too like you look how big his balls are getting and it was just like the parents being like we're not about to pay fucking six thousand dollars no nobody's a dog man and he's fine Yeah, yeah There was a Wavab group on every corner

Exactly It was a weather group And dogs were rocking tumours Like dogs had tumors Like fucking thick gold chains Everybody was standing around a trash camfire Going Wadav To each other

My name is Jack O'Brien A.K. Now what's this deer sized rabbit hopping all around the land? You'd be begging it to stop if you were catching those hands. What the hell is in that pouch. What you got in that pouch? A couple of teats, a couple of

spits, a couple of spits, some milk and some oil, and tons of Joey poo. That one courtesy of Blinky Hack on the Discord. Roo Pouch. Yeah. Roo Pouch. There you go. Yeah, Blinky Hick. Doing a couple. I've got another

kangaroo Pouch, A.K.A. coming your way. That's what we call a teaser in the next episode. Oh, shit. Wait, which one is it? Is it? Oh, maybe you're about to do it. Was it the WAP one? Uh-huh. Well, okay.

Well, what don't you? I'm thrilled to be joined. No, no, actually. Why don't you go ahead and introduce me? No, no, no, you know what? No, I want no. I'm leaving this for you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. You simply mustn't, Miles. You simply must, actually, now that I know. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host. They call him a wet-ass pouchy sometimes. This name's Miles Gray. No, Miles Gray, aka Hideo NoHo. Oh, wow.

That's it. Just leaving it there. No deal, no deal. A.K.A. There's some joys in this pouch. There's some joys in this pouch. There's some joys in this pouch. This marsupial stink.

Seven days a week. Wet and gushy. Make that Joey really reek. Okay, shout out to HBO match. Oh, just do it, I can't do it after you just did that. I can't bend do. Yeah, I know. Sorry.

You set me up. I tried to act like I wasn't going to fall for it, but I did. Doesn't matter. Had to. Suckling Joey in a skin bag. That's some wet-ass pouchy. That's another blinky heck. Oh, yeah.

Oh, wait, maybe there's different ones because that was HBO Max. Oh, damn. Well, serendipitous. Came with it. Jack, you were meant to do that one. I can't wait to talk to our guest about this piece of trivia that we just learned. One of the best podcast hosts doing it anywhere, my old friend from the crack days, a very funny writer,

a Jeopardy Champion, host of the Wonderful podcast, secretly incredibly, secretly incredibly fascinating with Katie Golden. It's Alex Schmerey! Schmitty! Shmitty!

Shmitty! It's great to be here. I wish I had more kangaroo things to bring to the table. I'm just planning to be around. Have you done a marsupials episode? Or has your head? Secretly,

has that brought you any marsupial knowledge because we just learned a lot of them. about marsupials recently through a cursory Google search. Basically, we just learned. I was like, is that how it's dry or wet? This shit stink? You know? Because that's always been,

I'd always pictured it as just being like the front pocket of like a hoodie. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And no, it's messy in there. It's kind of an orifice. Yeah. Like you put the Joey in there.

It's like, I was, there are other other marsupials got the pouch opening oriented differently. and they got like basically a sphincter that'll keep the shit inside too on some on some marsupials. Oh, so they can like tighten it. Yeah, they were like,

because it's hanging out the bottom. Right, because they're like on all fours. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Okay. Anyway. Pouch sphincter. Well, you know about that.

What do you know about that pouch sphincter? Yeah. It's weird because they're not quite marsupials. It's a different thing called monotreams, but we just did an episode about eKedness. And so, of course, also Katie, golden any animal topic she knows a lot coming yeah yeah she's like why you uh take a seat Alex yeah let me get loose here let me talk to these dipshits about a pouch real quick

yeah the pouch fax that you would hit us with I feel like would blow my mind and I don't know if I'm ready for yet yeah and he kidnas echinace lay an egg and then apparently the female they don't quite have a pouch but they basically flex abdominal portions of their body to make a cavity to hold the egg in, which seems like a real rough way to spend a lot of time. Yeah. I didn't know they lay egg.

God damn. Are they the only mammal that lays at? They're a mammal. That's a mammal, right? Yeah, echinis and platypuses are the monotreams. Yeah. Wow. I feel like the animal groupings are like the fruit vegetable groupings

where it's like, yeah, I mean, could be a fruit, could be a vegetable. And then this one lays an egg and then like, just like, but it keeps. it in an orifice, and they have pockets built in. It's like, those are pants that you're talking about. That doesn't even make sense. Yeah, that was an animal. Yeah, we did one like a few months ago about pistachios, and those are droops. They're sort of related to stone fruit.

But they're like a culinary nut, because we eat them like nuts, but they're not nuts. It's weird. They look like the plant is taking a poop when, like, the way, when you see them growing, it's like, ugh. It's like, it's kind of nasty. Yeah, they look. On a tree? Yeah, they look like. There's like flesh on them and it looks like kind of poopy.

Yeah. Yeah, it looks. Oh. Not the way I was expecting it to. All right. I'll still. I thought they grew in those cans, you know? Yeah, exactly.

The, uh, by the way, don't knock holding an egg inside your body. Gwen Peltro has really opened my eyes to the value of the yonny egg. You can finally control your pee. on your pelvic floor thanking you for that it's been a game changer for me that I can now I can fart with control

you know the alphabet Alex we're thrilled to have you here we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the stories we're talking about today starting to see those

consequences of the shutdown in ways that might make the mainstream media be like this has gone too far. Yeah. The FAA will reduce air traffic by 10% starting today, I believe, across 40 high volume markets in order to relieve pressure on air traffic controllers.

We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Nancy Pelosi retiring in two years. What is she like doing, this is like Dr. J where we're going to do like a farewell tour and like honor her? Like what? Just tell us once you. You've retired. Yeah, I know.

I'm giving me this two years. Did she do like a LeBron the decision type special? Right. Where she like sat down. It's like, yes, now I believe in two years. Two years, motherfucker? Two years at the age of 87. I was going to say, she's like, I just think 90's too far.

90? I think the second you can't, like, you should be able to go downstairs steps backwards as a physical test. You know, obviously you have other mobility issues. That's not the test. But like, if you're so old, you couldn't go down the steps backwards. Words. Yeah. It's a wrap. I can barely do it now, actually. So I don't know. I should probably shut the fuck up. And we are making you, we're making you go through that stairs test before every, every recording. Just making sure you've got the dexterity. Just tears down my face. I end up falling. I will talk about the future of AI ads coming from meta. And we'll talk about our good friend Tom Brady in the third act, who just dropped a, a sponsored.

dog on us. This is like a dog whose existence is a like marketing activation. Oh, that's great. Yeah, he pulled a stride, and he cloned his dog. Hell, yeah.

But it was all, like, from the drawing of the blood of the first dog that was cloned, it was like in line with a marketing plan for this company that he invests them. So we'll talk about that. Perfect. Plenty more, but first, Alex, we do like

Ask our guest. What is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I checked up on the guy who's a Manchester United fan and is growing his hair until they win five matches in a row. Yeah. Yeah. So he's approaching 400 days of not cutting his hair. Oh, wow. It's crazy. It's just throwing out like you've never seen it. I've heard a lot of fans are now saying it's becoming a distraction because now everyone's thinking of if this guy is going to finally cut his hair. And they got close. I think they did three games in a row. maybe four and then they just lost yeah they just lost again and everyone and everyone was like oh that motherfucker's hair is going to be there for at least another six weeks seven well there's an international break but yeah is it common to win five games in a row like is that just a baseline it's not unheard of it's not unheard of in anyway i think it's because they've been in such dire straits for the last few years that they cannot string together like their last manager

couldn't even get two games in a row wow until just now like he just got three and they're like oh shit we're back uh but they used to be one of the biggest teams ever is that your squad alex it is i i picked them because oddly their manager was named alex when i was a kid and was picking teams and i was like oh if if they have an iconic manager named alex and also they wear chicago balls colors this is great there you go sir you don't have to change your wardrobe yeah now i'm tied to basically the dallas cowboys of soccer and that's how it is it's just the way the way life works yeah it's But they, yeah, and last weekend they drew.

They had one three in a row, and then they settled for a draw. And like a road draw against an okay team is not that bad, but everybody was specifically upset about the hair because it has to be wins. A draw breaks the streak. Nope, exactly. How is his hair? Like, is he pulling it off? He has pretty curly hair, I would say, and he can just kind of tie it all back pretty easily.

But then when he releases it, it's this huge, like, throw around his head. And people have been doing memes of, like, a view. of Manchester from space where it's just this area. We're really having some fun with it right now. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, man. But he's shaved. He's not like going full Tom Hanks. He doesn't. He has

like a very cherubic face. I don't even know how much of a beard he could get going on that face. Yeah. Yeah. That would be fun if he looked like a grizzly man or a John Baptist. Forced Gump. Forced Gump when he's running across the nation. Face. Yeah, yeah. Not quite. Yeah. Not quite.

Yeah. Yeah, because I got curious about it how he's doing. And yeah, it honestly looks like they could win five and their kind of next set of matches. So we'll see. Potentially. He's got a great head of hair for this. Oh, no, it's, it's fun.

It's fun because it's big hair. It looks like, it looks like a guy who's like, please let me cut my hair now because it's so big and unruly. Please win. The team that they drew against Nottingham Forest is really, it's funny because the guy who owns a team is like a Greek mafia guy. who has like bro he's like accused of like bombing judges bakery like a judge ruled against him and he bombed this guy's bakery or fire bombed his bakery and one of their star players tried to leave for Tottenham and suddenly the deal was off and this player did an interview like with the man the owner right behind him like a fucking hostage video and he's like I just have to thank Mr. Maranakis for giving me the vision to stay here and I and I only really wanted to stay at this call. club and everyone's like, this is the shady

shit I've ever fucking seen. This guy's getting threatened by like some Greek Mafia. Tragedy about all that lost Baclava, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Still thinking about the bakery. He's moved out from the hospital. Yeah. He's like, what was the other part?

Lost my focus there. I do. I love Baclaba so much. It is like the sweetest substance on earth, I feel like. It's just like they, some Baclava I've had is just they've like just, you know, baked

down the honey so that it's like just so concentrated it's so good anyways that's what i'll be thinking about for the rest of the show uh what's something you think's underrated i i really like this is something that people already think is at least pretty good but i really like the new album by clips this year is phenomenal very very good music oh my god yeah you're you're re-up gang Alex? I didn't know that. Oh, my God. And like, they're just, there's just excellent rappers. And I really have no life connection

to cooking cocaine in Virginia Beach, but they do a great job of telling the stories about it and getting other themes going, you know. That's the point. Clips has everyone thinking they were cooking crack on Pyrex in Virginia Beach. That's the power of their music. That's when their first album, I thought I was selling crack cocaine in a tennis ball. I wasn't. I was at a private

Catholic high school. Now, is the tennis ball actually, were they using a tennis ball? Or was it just a tennis ball sized peg? No, the tennis ball is how you, that's how you move the work across the street. They thought we was playing catch. No. There was a, there was drugs in there. So it's like, oh, here, catch the ball. But really, they said, hey, let me get that. Then you take the cash. So you cut it? Yeah, the drugs are inside the tennis ball. Seal it back up. You didn't have to because. It's a fun little like arts and crafts thing. Yeah. Yeah. What's your favorite what's your favorite track on the new clips album uh mike tyson blow to the face is really good oh yeah and but i feel like like the very first track is like very emotional oh his dad's passing and

everything yeah and like there's a there's a real range on it i know i a sentence ago made it sound like they only talk about cocaine but there's there's a lot going on it's oh yeah they love their dad their dad sounded like a great guy yeah it's really tragic that song about like how good your dad was Yeah, yeah, truly. It's like, yeah, pops bounce on old, you know, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's, they're a great album with John Legend, you know. Because also, like, growing up, I feel like I was told that rap is not good and country is not good. And then adulthood has been a lot of discovering how good both of those are.

Because, like, there's a lot of good country music also about you disappointed your parents and you're just trying to live. Like Merle Haggard, his thing's mama tried about disappointing his mom. And, you know, they just really capture it really emotionally. and then also do hardcore songs about how they're kicking ass all the time. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah. I love it.

You know who else likes the clips? The Pope. Hell, yeah. Didn't they perform it at the Vatican? I don't know. Yeah, that was wild. Did you see that? It's a personal request by the Pope.

Yeah, he's like, I'm re-up game. He's like, make sure Stove God cooks is also here. I want to hear Fico. Will Smith, Jacket Boy, cook it till they inside out? I love that. prepping line in that one. Or a fresh prince jacket. I cook him till the inside out.

Yeah, that's, I don't know. I don't know. I think that was a, if you should check that one out, Alex, because I think they did, uh, birds don't sing with like an orchestra at the Vatican.

At the Vatican. Yeah. Oh, like, this is an amazing tip. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like this Pope,

the Chicago Pope. Yeah. This happened, this happened like two months ago. This is probably thought of you as the Pope of Chicago, but as the Chicago Pope. But, but, you know, that's,

he's humble. He's humble. He's humble. Another thing you two have. have in common. Yeah, he, the Pope attended game one of the 2005 world series. And there is footage of him in the

actual like Fox or whatever telecast watching Bobby Junk's try to close out game one and terrified it won't work out, making the face that I made in our basement at home. It's the best. Amazing. He just looked like some guy. Like he was just,

the pictures of him at that game. He's just like there with like his brother. like they're eating hot dogs funny funny what's something he thinks overrated this is i guess it's kind of like the clips thing because people know this is bad but like the new york post is very bad like it's yucky we need to when zoran one not only they put out a cover where they like turned him into communist propaganda and then i just learned today that they are selling prints like merchandise prints of the cover for huge money in the official New York Post store.

Oh, they're now selling? Because we were to this morning talk about how the physical copies sold out and people are flipping the actual newspaper. But now the post is going a step further. And you're like, hey, you want to buy that thing where we're saying you're all going to die? Yeah. It's a guy's life.

But I mean, like, this is, yeah. It's a 12 inch by 12 inch metal print that they will print. print on demand and frame and send straight to you. And like, if they have any ethics or actual worries about anything ever being good, according to their beliefs, they would not be making merch of like the end of the city, you know? They're just awful, terrible. And their readers, I think, just want to be lied to.

Like, it physically looks like propaganda when you pick up that newspaper. You know you're just hearing what you want to hear. The man, they know their way around the pun, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. But not as good as the sun. The sun in the UK, they love a book. pun also. Oh, yeah. There's a next level also.

There was one where Manchester United beat Arsenal 8-2, and it said 8-2-see-you-like this. And it was devastating for me as an Arsenal fan. Just looking at when you Google, best New York Times or New York Post covers, they have somebody arresting someone for a public urination. I don't know why this was front page news, and it says, Cops zip pisser. Urine cuffs.

There it is. Right. Love that. Jeweler gets his rocks off. 50 shades of rage. Like, I know a lot of the issues get recycled, but they're just generating garbage. They're not generating anything beyond garbage every day. Like, they should not exist as a business.

City style. Okay, so there was a vibrator giveaway. that the city stepped in and stopped. What do you think the big headline was there? Two words. Wait, sorry, buzz off? Very close. Almost, uh, buzz kill.

Oh, okay, cool, okay. City stops vibrator giveaway. Buzz kill. City stops vibrator giveaway. Love that, love that. Got to love that. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

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And yeah, so this has always been something that, has put pressure for the government to end shutdowns, which is the fact that air traffic controllers don't get paid, and people need those, I think. If I'm understanding this correctly, people need air traffic controllers. Is that right? Yeah, from what I witnessed, typically,

somebody who's lived in the flight path of the Burbank Airport growing up, feels like a lot of shits coming in and going, even for a small place. Yeah, I'd say probably. They, uh, I just remember from that episode of Breaking Bad, spoiler alerts, but what the impact that it distracted. Breaking news, they just acquitted the sandwich guy. They did. He's been acquitted.

Yes, sandwich three, D.C. has been acquitted. Okay. Wow. Good to know. Good to know. The bare minimum is happening. I mean, easy for you to say, I have friends who live in D.C. and I'm just. They can still smell the mustard and onions.

I'm worried about. I don't know if you saw the way that sandwich didn't explode. Yeah, yeah. Sorry, sorry, but the shutdown, the shutdown. The shutdown, which, I mean, partially has to be motivated by that. I mean, that plays out of control. People, they probably feel safer, not in D.C. Mm-hmm.

With a guy like that, the mad sandwicher on the loose. But this is, so the F.A. will reduce air traffic by 10% across 40 high volume markets in order to relieve pressure on air traffic controllers who are working without pay during the shutdown and are calling out of work because apparently they're weird and they prefer jobs that they can use to like feed their family. And so they're like having to drive Uber and stuff like that to make ends meet. So we're weeks away from Thanksgiving, which I think I knew. based on the documentary

planes, trains, and automobiles is a busy time for travel. I didn't know it is the busiest time. Every year, like, those days around Thanksgiving are the busiest time for air travel in the country, like more than Christmas, more than the other holidays

that we travel for. And looks bad. It doesn't look good. I don't, I feel like this particular president is uniquely insulated from giving a shit about this but it does feel

like there's going to be a lot of political pressure now coming their way you would think I just that I mean the one thing with the shutdown too is just thinking of like the Democrats right now

there is a group that's working with Republicans to try and reopen the government on some bipartisan shit but like not getting the kinds of guarantees you need to be like well they say will get a vote on extending ACA subsidies and things like that. It's like, they just got their shit beat down on Tuesday. Stay the fucking course. Don't let these people who are, have demonstrated every time they are not trustworthy or good faith actors in any negotiation. Don't let them hoodwink you

into reopening the government and then like pissing away all those healthcare subsidies because that is really massive. That's just like the one thing I'm like worried about. Every time you search such down's like, oh, the bipartisan group is becoming hopeful, but it's like at your, there's a lot of leverage here to actually protect people's health care subsidies. Yeah. Sorry. I agree. And like, it seems like the Republicans are really stuck because they are authoritarian's and the only way forward is for them to lose something. Right. Like, they control the government. If the government's shut down, it's their fault to everyone, even if they don't have a huge majority. So they have to lose something, even though they've decided they get to build a thousand year Reich because they

won the presidential election by like a point in a half. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. They're not, look, no, none of these powerful people know how to read the room, it turns out. Yeah. Well, the rooms that they're in, they're reading fine. And those rooms are like, yes, sir, that's a brilliant idea, sir.

Very good, very good, very good. Very good. Very good. Very good. That's sick. That's sick. That's sick. That's such a sick idea.

What don't you tell them the news? Uh, you're, you're. You look great in that suit, sir. That's the news. I feel like that's the kind of shit that's going on behind it. New cologne, sir? New cologne?

Yeah. It is kind of alarming that this isn't already have, like we've been hearing that the air traffic controllers are having to call off work to feed their families more and more since this started. And it's kind of weird that they are like, that's it. On Friday, we're going to have. have to take that into account. Right.

Well, that seems like a thing that you should have been taking into account already. Miles, I want to pick your political brain here for a second because we do know, like, the Republicans could have nuked the filibuster, which I'm told as a thing, and ended the shutdown up to this point. What do they, like, what is their reason for not doing that, do we think? for not nuking the filibuster? Yeah, not nuking the filibuster and just ending the thing

and being like, we did it on our own terms. Well, one, I think one is that, like, because the Democrats have framed a lot of this and being like, they're about to fuck your health care subsidies and open enrollments happening now. So people are starting to see, they're like, oh, wait, what the fuck?

Like, what is going on? A, they don't want to own those health care cuts that they pass in the big beautiful bill. Because, like, now, like, at the time, they're like, yay, that's fine. But now because reality is hitting on that, they're like,

I don't know, you know, shut the fuck up about it. But the other part is a lot of people, a lot of Senate Republicans, they do fear that the end of the filibuster can come back to bite them in the ass if the Democrats regain control of the Senate. Because then that means you're going to go for a wild ride where they only need a simple majority to get shit through. And they're like, that could also be bad. So there's still sort of like, it is kind of a safeguard. And while we like to not use, like, sometimes we're like, fuck the filibuster. let's get this shit going. I think they're also just concerned because I'm sure a lot of the Republicans see the polling,

they see the results, and they're like, I don't know, maybe there is going to be fuckery in the midterms and future elections, but if there isn't and people still are able to vote Republicans out, that's also not, that also, you know, it benefits them to be obstructionist and have the filibuster in place. Got it. Okay. That makes sense. So it's not just that they don't want the Epstein vote to happen.

it's no I mean there's other stuff it's sure I'm but there is all of but I think it's everything right you know like they also don't but then there's clearly a bunch of people who also are somewhat kind of still tethered to earth and like I mean I do feel bad I tell these people I'm representing them and like they're going hungry and their health care is all messed up and I got to I don't I kind of hide from them I don't want to do that anymore some most are very willing to hide from them but right yeah I I think one of the the main reasons you hear with especially the resistance to the filibuster has been we don't want to be we don't want to get got on the other side of that too right okay sir on the one hand my job is to like represent these people and they're literally starving to death on the other hand god you smell fucking fantastic i just wanted you to know that yeah i bet they're going in there being like oh i'm going to fucking tell him this can't stand this cannot stand and they get and they're like uh diet coke sir. Right, right, right. It also, right now it must be truly bizarre to be an air traffic controller who is actually ill, right? Like that's got to be a weird time and say, like you actually need to call in sick. I know, I know, but like, everybody's getting sick too. Like, it's a flu season. Everybody's gets to say it's like, oh, okay, another one, great. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I really feel for,

like, it's, they're making them do forced labor and a high pressure job. Like, what's, What's going on? It's unreal, too. Highest pressure. Because you know also as an air traffic controller, fucking lives are on the line. So as much as like, if it's not like a retail job,

like, or something like when I would do service job, I'm like, man, fuck today, bro. Y'all can fucking deal with that shit in there. That is sort of like a fucking plane. People could fucking die. Yeah.

So you've really got me against the wall here because I in good conscience don't want to put people at risk, plus you're not paying for me. It's pretty fucking vile. I think we should do the ultimate sign of respect and start lining up outside their houses with pots and pans and just weirding them out. Yeah. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.

Thank you. I mean, it's a vital part of, you know, the how money moves and people move in this country. I mean, that's the issue. Like, it's, you know, people have been feeling the. effects of this for a long time and, you know, are now starving. Like, families are starving. Food bank lines are out the fucking, you know, just the longest they've ever been. But this is also how money moves. Like, this is getting in the way of business travel. This is getting in the way. Like, it's not just, you know, passenger airplanes. It's also cargo airplanes. Like, that's

fucking up. Big corporation. Yeah. But I think also they'll probably, I don't know, I haven't seen what the actual um the throttling back of air traffic looks like but i'd imagine they're not going to do things when it's like flights between washington dc and new york city or they said it's going to be regional ones they said they're going to target they're like sorry milwaukee get fucked you know what about thanksgiving i don't know man rent a u haul yeah you've seen plane trans and automobile get your polka band in the back yeah yeah yeah be from a bigger city come on yeah they said it this specifically said, like, more regional flights that use 737s are going to be the ones that get hit first.

Well, hey, maybe they can do some maintenance on those planes while they're grounded. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I'm sure they have plenty of resources for that. We do just want to give a hearty, you know, career rest in piss, bozo to the career of Nancy Pelosi, where she is finally retiring in the year 2020. when she turns 87 and is like, that feels like the right age, right?

Is that technically retirement age? No, it's actually 22 years after retirement age. You should have retired in the 90s. Yeah, wow. Yeah. I mean, what's, she's just ready, huh? I'm ready now after decades in office? After long decades of fearless triangulation and usher.

assuring in a version of the Democratic Party that has delivered us to absolute ruin. I have finally decided that my mission is through. I've achieved everything I wanted to. Yeah. I mean, but when you bring up retirement ages, right? Like, that makes very clear that you are not money mindset. You are not hustle-oriented. Like, how are you going to get those stock tips if you're retired, right?

How are you going to? Money never sleeps. How am I going to get stock tips if she retires? We cut out the 45 minutes at the beginning of this where Alex just gave me a long lecture about how I'm not money mindset enough and how my grind set fucking sucks. Right. He said, yeah, your money is kind of funny. Yeah.

And not in a good way. And they were like, oh, shit. Jack was devastated. Could be allowed to stop crying. Yeah. It's because I woke up at, what was that, 4.38 a.m. exactly. And I started writing when I was going to say to Jack. And then I ducked my head.

the water or whatever and then did a bunch of calisthenics and doth my head had more water and now we're taking water almost drowned actually prayed for two and a half hours while doing push-ups exactly and yeah i mean she's a wallburger she said uh we have made history we have made progress i mean incrementally yes you have made history that's the damn sure yeah you're going to be in there girl you are going to be in there girl you are going to be in there. It's not going to be the good, the hero of the story, unfortunately, but you have definitely, you've made it. Yeah. You helped us get to interesting times. There will be a chapter. Like if, if you take out all the pain and suffering that's actually caused by our government,

you could just be like, yeah, she's had a long career and she's achieved a lot and she's objectively, what knows how to negotiate. Now, we're those actual, what was the, like, legislation was all, were all of them helpful to working people? No, not quite. Some were. Some were. Some were. Some were. Some were. Some were. Some were. Some were nice token gestures. Some were more substantive. But I think at the end of the day, seeing somebody who's been in Congress for 39 years and is now, and saying, I'll leave when I'm 87. You're like, we had, we had a lot going on just the last couple years where it would have been nice to have people not go to bat for the status quo. Yes. That. that degradation, that clinging to the status quo, hath opened the lane for what we have now. Degradation. I mean, some people are saying, like, it's hard not to read into the timing of this after Mamdani's win,

like, might signal that the future of the party is with young progressives. Some, I will say, some very hopeful people are reading it that way. And that they're like, and maybe Chuck Schumer will get the message, and he'll get the fuck out of here.

Yeah. Chuck Schumer's closer to biting Zora and Moundy's head off than endorsing him, I think, like a fucking bat at an Ozzy Osbourne show. Yeah. He would suck so bad at biting his head off, though, I feel like, you know. Oh, no. He'd do a little bit and go, p, p, p, p, p, p, p, pah, wow. It's like, you're not built for this.

You're not built for head biting. No. Yeah, he doesn't have bad hat mindset. He doesn't have. No, there is. I love this. I love the. Alex is our like hustle grindset, beat reporter.

Yeah, yeah. And just to weigh in here, Schumer doesn't have grindset. He doesn't have hustle. Bad head mindset. No. Yeah. Whatever size you think my t-shirt does, think smaller, folks. It's real tight.

And I'm really out of it. We're really big. Yeah. So one of the tips. Yeah. I got to cut little little fucking holes in the sleeve just so my biceps can breathe. You feel me? That's right.

Yeah. God. Remember a Sean Penn's biceps? send one battle after another. That's what you think about. Think about those biceps. Well, how tight his t-shirt was and how it was just like weird, old man vascular, vainy, his body. He had washed old man doing HGH body.

Yeah, yeah. You know? I hear that movie's good. I haven't seen it. Oh, it's blessed. It's a blast. The thing, I just think of his gait when I think of how he walks. His gate is so wild.

And then he, like, does that little head thing. Yeah. Yeah. It's like truly, like, I have, I've had the worst case of hemorrhoids for 25 years, but I won't go to a doctor because I'm homophobic and I don't want to look at my butt hole. So I'm just powering through it walking like this. Justin, can you clip that part of my, I was just saying that from I've had the worst hemorrhoids for the past 25 years. And I won't see a doctor because I'm homophobic and I don't want to look at my butthole. I need that as a drop.

I won't even squat over a hand mirror to look at this. Coming from a man who said, Boom. You burned me. You burned me. Oh, shit. It's going to be a great t-shirt. Yeah.

Yeah. All right, let's talk about AI ads. Ticketmaster is the latest major company to dive into AI Slop. It's just basically like changing people, the color of people's clothing via my. There's nothing like being a Vanderbilt fan.

There's nothing like being a, USC football fan in a sea of red and gold yeah it's they're doing this thing where they're just pushing out mass advertisements on Facebook with like

the same slop AI family but the hoodies and the background colors just changed depending on the university they did another one for World Series tickets with the most AI looking family like if you you'd almost think like is the

are the mom and dad twins or something? Like, their faces are so freaky. Very identical, yeah. But again, all of this is happening because meta is not doing great at all with their consumer-focused AI products. Oh, no. Really?

Wow. I wonder why. And so now they're just leveraging their insane power as an advertising machine to push out AI slot for pennies on the dollar to get more business that way because they're trying to turn a profit. So the future of is hyper-personalized ads using. the power of AI, according to Mark Zuckerberg. This is what he said, quote,

advertisers are increasingly just going to be able to give us a business objective and give us a credit card or bank account and have the AI system basically figure out everything else that's necessary, including generating video or different types of creative that might resonate with different people that are personalized in different ways, finding who the right customers are. And that I was like, okay, yeah, yeah. That is, this is the first claim about AI that I've believed, like, yes, this is very clearly what AI was made for.

It's to take our information and generate, like, weird ads that seem Taylor made to, like, for us. That's what it's going to be. It's not going to replace, like, Hollywood. It's still going to feel weird, but, like, ads already feel weird, you know? Yeah, I'm already ignoring them. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just going to be, like, more personalized ads that are, like, weird and dumb the way ads always have been.

but they'll just like have you know the color of your team on them and brands are going to love that shit yeah they're like hello Alex you like the bulls great check out this deal and you know the so 404 media is the one that reported on it and they looked at the the ad library from ticket master and just said oh they just discovered like oh my god this is like this is all they're doing now just found all this larger campaign of generic text AI slop to target fans of different colleges and different teams and it and it's not going to stop because it costs relatively little money to shit out pictures of like ethnically ambiguous families with a thousand yard stare and maybe change a couple colors this family is clones yeah right just like you right no no sorry we're not we're not it's it'll probably get to the point where it would be like hey miles you know how your parents couldn't get the sneakers you wanted as a kid well here's your chance with this flash sale to honor your inner child I'm like how did you fucking what the fuck all this It's like, it's, we've listened to the podcast.

We feel sorry, sorry. Wow. Yeah, like, it just feels that's, that's the way they're going to use this as sort of like the magic trick for advertisers. Just like, no, it's just like the way they could say we can get your ads in front of specific demographics on Facebook or Instagram. They're like, not only that, we will create the image that resonates the most with this group based on our algorithmic slot findings. Yeah. Yeah. I also, I was watching YouTube, I think it was two days ago, and I saw my first AI made ad in the wild, at least that I could tell. And it was horrifying because it wasn't even trying to exploit specificity. It was for that Kalshi thing where you can just, it seems like gamble on any event or thing at all. Right. They could have just filmed it with humans and had them say something, but it was like AI beings that uncannily turned toward camera and were in kind of glossy situations. And just saying essentially,

bet on everything and then like a different picture of two new AI people and the lady says bet on everything and it was just completely uncanny but also not even the targeting of this like I would rather have a hum on kill us trying to give me a Syracuse University alumni shirt or something of this you know at least that's thinking about me yeah hello orange man yeah I'm orange man yeah yeah there that's also so presumptuant of them and like I'm very disappointed in the I slop to think that they could give you advice about how to get your paper up

you're Alex Schmidt yeah you're a grind set money fucking how to make your money explode man on the street somehow Alex sells the AI cop a course a business course I don't know but I got this fucking AI

I had to buy a $300 course off of me our model wants the homunculus to work for it I don't get it I don't get it Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and check in with Tom Brady. Ah, the goat. That goat.

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What is this? Bravo. Thank you. The best. The goat. The goat. Tom Brady. Is he the goat?

Do you think he's... I don't know. It's hard. You know, I am a Patriots fan. He is. just had the ability to win watching him like on a play to play basis he's not like the best thrower like he doesn't have like the best ball or anything like that but like when it comes to being like a complete psycho who like got everybody to play and like perform at a high level

i do think he's got the jordan mental illness he's got the jordan mental illness he's not like a show hey goat where you like look at this fucking human being do this thing right yeah yeah and jordan I think had both. Like Jordan had both that crazy, you know, thing that made everybody. But also, like, the eye test was like, that's, I've never seen a human being do that. Like, that's the coolest looking thing ever. And, like, I don't think he ever really had that. He was just, he was like a force of nature where it was like, oh, they're down 20 in the Super Bowl.

I'm like, you're still like, I think he's going to win, actually. Right. I think against all odds, he's going to figure out a way to win. Settle goat, yeah. Yeah. We've also gotten a lot of data from before and after Brady times for Belichick. Yeah. It seems like Belichick.

Well, is a fella who stands on the sideline. That's right. But I think Brady was doing a lot of it. I will say, I think what we see with Belichick is the same thing that we're seeing with, in the government that, like, at a certain age, it's just like, it's not happening, guys. Yeah, yeah. were, you know, there's another football coach, Pete Carroll, who had an amazing career, and he just went to a new team this year. And everyone's like, man, they got Pete Carroll. That guy's, like, got a, you know, high energy. And he, like, turns programs around.

And it's just been a disaster. Like, it's like, and he's, you know, like a late 70s guy. Where's he at now? He's, the Raiders. So he went from the Sea, was he at the Seahawks? Seahawks. He went SC, Seahawks, Raiders. Yeah. Oh. And everyone buys into it. It does seem like. we just have this cognitive bias where we're like,

oh, they'll probably be fine. Why is Trump, why is Trump's face drooping like that? Why does, why does Bill Belichick no longer the best football coach ever? And now he's, uh,

terrible. Wow, his nurse, his nurse is hot. No, that's his girlfriend. That's his girlfriend, bro.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Wait, so is Tom Brady cloning goats now? No. Oh,

no. He's in the news this week, not because of his broadcast. career, which hasn't gone quite as well as I think everybody hoped. He has used modern technology to necromance his dead dog back into existence. Lua, the pit bull, died in 2023. Tom Brady cloned her, which is heartwarming. That's great, dude.

That's great. That's good. And in no way does it conjure memories of pet cemetery. And in no way does that, no way does the. Movie Pet Cemetery, like, suggests that maybe we feel weird about people bringing animals back to life. Right. And maybe don't do that because it's, there's, there's weird energy around that. Also, this is a dog that he shared with Giselle.

Oh. So, there's also like a little element of sadness. Did he also clone Giselle, too? He hasn't cloned, I mean. It's already, I think. Yeah, yeah. Maybe. I don't know exactly who he's been dating, but.

you know, we'll see. But yeah, in a few short months, Colossal gave my family a second chance with a clone of our beloved dog. That sounds like how people talk. Yeah, I love to drop the name brand of a company when I talk about something great that's happened for me.

That isn't an ad. And people always say, our beloved dog, beloved, as like conversationally. My pet, comma, who I love. That's not how anyone sucks. Whomst I love belovedly. What the fuck is?

Whomst I love belovedly. Okay. Wait, is Colossil the people that did the fucking Dyer Wolf? Yeah. Yeah, we're going to get to it. Okay. So the process is very controversial. It requires several additional dogs to make one clone.

Wait. Because cloners have to harvest egg cells and use surrogate mother dogs. Wow. So you're just like taking other animals and like inserting the DNA. The first ever dog clones. were two of only three pregnancies that resulted from more than 1,000 embryos implanted into 123 surrogates.

1,000 embryos in a 123 surrogates, three pregnancies, and then you only got two out of that. You got two dogs. All right, cool. Which seems like a lot of suffering on a lot of dogs parts to get those two dogs. Just quick math.

What's two divided by 1,000? just to get a success rate here. Yeah. And like not that doesn't seem, I think the technology has improved since them, but it still doesn't seem like a thing that could be financially viable. Like, you know what I mean?

Like it just seems like it's another, like so much of, you know, capital, late stage capitalism, just like a pump and dump, like look at this crazy technology. Look how cool this is. Right. People have pointed out,

like, you know, barbers try and clone. dogs and immediately was like, this is not my dog. I guess personality is not just like a genetic thing because none of the dogs were remotely similar to one another. They just like looked the same. But they're certainly preying on our ignorance around that with some of the company names being perpetuate.

Oh, great. For instance. Clever, clever, clever, clever, clever, clever, perpetuate. Wow. They ate on that one. For sure. Wow. Slaid. Perpet. Oh, you ate. Yeah, this whole process is not the future that Star Wars Episode 2 promised. Oh, no.

Camino Ocean Planet with the building for clones. They made it look really easy. Exactly. That did look shitty for the clones, I will say. Ah, Jack. Oh, like the life. Yeah, it's not a great life. Yeah. Not a great life, but they're clones. Who cares? Yeah.

the the the and I think they had them growing faster at like a at a faster rate like they grew which was always my question about Jurassic Park because these were like full grown dinosaurs how so did they clone them 30 years ago like how how is it so quick or how early did they have cloning technology and that was also my question about the dire wolf like we're not seeing that many like pictures or like videos of the dire wolf probably probably because it's still like, just a baby. It's probably like, kill me. It's the fucking mess. Trying to fucking bring some shit back that shouldn't have. But Tom Brady's, if you've seen his broadcasting career, this next part won't surprise you because he looks like a synthetic, like he looks like a, he looks like a synthetic human being.

He's just like. Bishop, an alien. Yeah, straight up, just very smooth face. giant white teeth and something off behind the eyes. Yeah, so speaking of me, being a Manchester United fan, he's kind of morphing into Cristiano Rinaldo. And I don't love that guy either, but like it's kind of a weird thing going at. Like, at some point, if you're going to be a tycoon of superhuman sportsness,

that kind of guy starts existing. It's weird. Christiana Ronald, a big Trump fan now, too. He was saying something recently. Oh, so cool. He's like, he's the future. And you're like, Trump is the future. It's such an interesting take.

His face is like melting off of this. He said something about how he's like the man who's going to change the world. It's like some weird shit. Anyway. Yeah. But just it was named after Ronald Reagan. Like it makes sense. Like, of course, they're friends. Cristiano Ronaldo Reagan is so funny.

Is he really? His dad named him after Ronald Reagan. Is that real? Yeah, yeah. His dad was a big fan of Ronald Reagan and his, you know, Portuguese or whatever. Why would you bother? But yeah. Wow.

My son, Thatcher. you know, would appreciate that anecdote. So I just want to read the details of, like, how this came about because it was not about, like, celebrating a beloved pet. It was basically just a deal to promote this company, like, from the start. Like, so, like you mentioned, my, it was a colossal recently acquired a cloning company, but they are the same cloning company that did the Dyer Wolf, and they're just, like, you know, headline farming, essentially.

Yeah. Brady collected his dog's blood before it died with this plan in mind. He was like, this is, oh, you're going to make me a lot of money, like, as he's drawing. Give me that blood. Blood from a still living dog being like, now could you die on our timeline so that we could get this out in line with? Dude, now I'm wondering, he must have posted some fake ass insincere. My dog died post as like a long play set up, too, you know? almost definitely right

that's grim as hell yeah take 300 Tom you need to actually like we need to get some emotion out of your face as you're supposed to be like sad that the dog died

oh my God like he's smiling so much they just CGI it upside down yeah sorry Tom can you put the cash down don't put it in the frame as you're talking just put it on

table if you can. It's just, I think it hurts the relatability when you're drying your tears with cash. Yeah. But yeah, people are pointing out that his dead dog clone is essentially a brand activation all in the service of Hyping Colossel's $50,000 dog cloning service. So I guess they can make it profitable at a certain level. If it's $50,000 per dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. This company just seems like wildly full of shit. Yeah. They said they brought the dire wolf back. Genetic experts are like, they added some of the DNA elements to existing wolves. Like, you can't bring a dire wolf back because there aren't dire wolves to give birth to a dire wolf. Right. You know?

Well, and also just the splicing you have to do is like, that's why everyone was like, this isn't, it's a, it's like a hybrid. It's some other abomination created by colossal. But, I mean, they're very clear. It's not like Jurassic Park. Oh, wait, it's exactly their headline is Colossal is the real-life blockbuster of Jurassic Park and Indiana Jones with celebs like Tom Brady behind it. Oh, great.

Their own website brags that the company is what you get when you mix Jurassic Park, the Avengers, and Indiana Jones in real life. What the fuck are, what does that mean? What's Indiana Jones? So Avengers, I'm guessing they just mean like superheroes. Like so Tom Brady. Right, like real world cool superheroes and like Tony Stark technology, Jurassic Park makes sense.

Jurassic Park is the only one that even of, oh, they're saying Avengers of like celebrity endorsements. I think they're probably trying to imply that they're going to create superhumans. I agree. Avengers doesn't make sense. They're like, we got a couple dogs that are shooting laser beams out of their eyes and it's killing a couple people. We're trying to figure out how to fuck. Indiana Jones is really strange. what could that even be in reference to yeah he digs up archaeological

and anthropological stuff oh okay in the sense that eugenics and the Nazis are the bad guys in Indiana Jones so you know what I mean yep yeah and they just really misunderstood the movie when I watched it yeah that's cool yeah this Indiana Jones guy someone's got to get rid of him huh they've got oh wow so it's Brady

Paris Hilton Tiger Woods is also on the hook, uh, noted gigantic skull haveer, Tony Robbins also. Um, and even actors and animal activists like the Hemsworth brothers, they had to add that. Even animal activists because most of you were like, this is so fucked up. Why are we trying to reprint dogs for 50k when every shelter is like overrun with pets that need adopting? But hey, go ahead, you know, print, do another Xerox copy of Lua. So people have asked, Ben Lamb, the founder of the company, if he's actually watched Jurassic Park

since it has a pretty clear. It's kind of a weird one to be invoking when the thing is like, this was a bad idea. This really got out of hand and said, people have to remember that that was a movie, right? I just hate the fucking way these people talk. Those are movies, right? So, like, yeah, it was a scripted ending.

So I'll go to a scripted show and I'll make the ending great. And then you guys can talk about that. That was his response. Holy shit. So he's like eight years old. Yeah. But his whole thing is like, well, because that's a movie and it's scripted, now I'll make my own thing that reinforces my backwards worldview,

and I'll point to that as a rationalization or justification for what I'm doing. Yeah, he's basically saying, like, I could do that. How about that? And then you talk about that. Get fucked with your ethical concerns. You think they're just like, flying like Ian Malcolm quotes by him in the interviews. And it's like, you know, it sounds like a colossal.

Your scientists were just so preoccupied with whether or not they could. They didn't stop to think if they should. Yeah. Anyway. That was a scripted movie, right? So like, in my, in my fan script, the Adventures of Ian Malcolm, he says a different thing. Yeah. He says, dude, Jurassic Park is so fucking sick, dog.

I'm so happy you guys did this. That's all Ian Malcolm says. Could you know that would be so sick. it's a two minute movie yeah as he and malcolm once said wee his rebuttal was oh i have you seen this version of drastic park and slides like a fucking copy across the tail like what is this this is the drastic park i saw i don't know what your time with the time the one where ian malcolm says this is good where the ride never breaks down uh and everything goes well and it's sick he like drew pictures of i had malcolm and cray out on the cover and stuff like come on why is it

What happened to the T-Rex? This one, the smart guy says it's a good idea. Yeah. And the journalist is bad. But yeah, expert, like, in terms of the actual payoff, like, there is something about this that captures the imagination, and people who understand the science, say, quote, a hairy elephant is not a woolly mammoth, and a gray wolf with a few genetic alterations isn't a dire wolf.

Right. Saying they are with a tweaked definition of de-extinction doesn't make it true. So it's all just like. like a pump and dump, grab some headlines, get people to invest in your company. And I think they do have like a $7 billion valuation. I mean, I don't doubt that there are people who would pay to clone their pets. That's, I mean, we've seen it. So if that's, maybe that's their business, but the idea of like, you're bringing, like, you are not fucking Dr. John Hammond, okay? Get that shit out of your mind. You're not doing it. I know John Hammond. I know, sir, yeah. And this is,

Not dino DNA. And where did you get them mosquitoes in amber or whatever? Well, fuck it. I just don't like, I love Jurassic Park so much. I don't want people claiming Jurassic Park. I know. Yeah, yeah. There's a quick note about the co-founder, George Church.

It is the same guy behind the controversial DNA dating app, aka dating app for eugenesis. And also the same George Church that was defending, accepting money for his lab donated by convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein in 2019. Hold on, hold on. Jeffrey Epstein? The financier? Convicted pedophile, Jeff Epstein?

Wait, he was a financier? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Wow. I mean, that makes sense. That seemed like right up his alley for all the, like, scientists. He would always bore to death with his, like, fucking weird research. You'd always want to talk about. We have.

I also like the Epstein and Jurassic Park both involved in an island. There's just something there. I know. I don't know what it is. Oh, my God. Rich guys always. trying to get you to their island, and it's never good. Yeah.

Alex Schmidt, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zykeist, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Thanks so much every time. And secretly incredibly fascinating. We love making it. It's me and my co-host, Katie Golden. Every episode's about the history and science of why something is exciting. That's right.

If you search secretly, it's the red one in your podcast now. That's right. It's very good. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I want a shout out of Creature, Feature. It's great. really good podcast like Katie Golden. Yeah. And it's, yeah, it's science and animals and how they're kind of like us in the amazing ways. It's great. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great show. Miles, where can people

find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? Uh, yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Gray, talking 90-day fiancé on four, 20-day fiancé, new things in the pipeline that you'll hear about soon. Um, what else? Oh, work in media, uh, Rob Delaney on blue sky posted, we joke around We joke around here, but AI has allowed me to streamline my business to such a degree that last week, I was able to lay off two pregnant women and roast my son's golden retriever alive. Parenthetical, smart home heating system still learning. Don't. We'll get there. Jesus Chris. Stupid. On our spinoff episode, our spinoff show about icons, I'm going to have a segment where we ask each time. The first episode, Einstein, and the second one is our show. but each episode is going to have a segment that asks whether if they had been around would how likely they would be how likely would they be to be on Epstein's flight locks

always go and the Einstein answer is yikes it's not that it's not that definitive because he like you know it's like would Mick Jagger be on there like the the way people threw themselves at Einstein it's like that I don't know that he necessarily would have have been on there. But Epstein certainly would have tried to get him on there. Oh, yeah. He would love to pick him. When Erkel has a jet pack, right? So he doesn't even need a lap. He doesn't need that shit. Because, bro, he, all he used to do is turn on to Stefan, bro. It's a wrap. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky, Jack O'B, the number one.

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Yes, it's not on any of the streaming platforms. This one's going to have to be on YouTube because it's a bit of a remix that might not clear the rights, but it's by a UK producer called Lockers, L-A-L-O-C-K-E-R-Z, and it's a UK garage remix of Radioheads, everything in its right place, which I've said this is like Gen Z and Gen Alpha. they're just rediscovering Radiohead. I love that for you.

But this is such a good, dancey version of, like, you hear everything in its right place fucking everywhere now, but this is a very danceable version and still, like, maintains it's kind of like, like emotion to it despite being a dance track. So lockers, the track is called Radiohead Dove.

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