The Daily Zeitgeist - Tommy Trenderville 7/11: Tommy Tuberville, Real Cheeseburger, Elizabeth Holmes, Tech Vampire, Prime, Climate Change, Wonka

Episode Date: July 11, 2023

In this edition of Tommy Trenderville, Jack and Miles discuss Tommy Tuberville's views on white nationalism, the REAL cheeseburger @ Burger King, Elizabeth Holmes getting her sentence reduced… for s...ome reason,  a tech millionaire vampire finally stops leeching off of his teenage son, the energy drink Prime being under investigation, Earth hitting the highest average temperature, and the trailer for the new Wonka movie!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of tommy trenderville tommy trenderville coach trenderville respect auditory match clone of mitch mcconnell in my opinion oh is this... I didn't hit record for some reason. Alright, well, you will have my Zoom audio for everything prior to this.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Tommy Tuberville, former Alabama football coach. Jack, we just can't get over the awkwardness of that moment. I mean, you've... We had Zoom audio instead of the clean mic. I'm so sorry to the zeitgang obviously i do apologize this is a show that takes very seriously a lot of this kind of stuff so i'm sorry who are we even jack we're so shit i don't even know where i am jack
Starting point is 00:02:16 oh that's miles ah i'm a little rusty oh talking like one of the green aliens in Toy Story. Yeah, Tommy Tuberville. He's really making waves right now. He got in some hot water the other night for this quote that he said on CNN talking about white nationalists. But just to be clear, you agree that white nationalists should not be serving in the U.S. military. Is that what you're saying? If people think that a white nationalist is a racist, I agree with that.
Starting point is 00:02:50 A white nationalist is someone who believes that the white race is superior to other races. Well, that's some people's opinion. And I don't think— What's your opinion? Pardon? What's your opinion? My opinion of a white nationalist, if somebody wants to call him white nationalist, to me is an American. It's an American.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Now, if that white nationalist is a racist, I'm totally against anything that they want to do because I am 110 percent against racism. But I want somebody that's in our military, that's strong, that believes in this country, that's an American, that will fight over anybody man or woman black white red it doesn't make any difference uh and and so i'm a totally against identity politics i think it's ruining this country and he goes on and on and on but i just like that he did the dude from the big lebowski defense of white nationalism where he's like it's racism like well that's just like your opinion your opinion man what do you mean uh but again he's he's being uh he's being sort of uh what he's obfuscating obviously but yeah i mean that's where he's where he's just his brain is broken and he's able to hold both of those things in his brain at the same time i don't know which one it is he's i mean he's continuing to be like yeah i meant what i said it's like it's that's not what it means that's
Starting point is 00:04:08 just your opinion that's your opinion i don't know if they're willing to fight the wars of empire for the united states alongside a man woman black white or red as in his case as he said that you are you're fit to uh go on these conquests of micro militarism i mean that is the direction we're headed with like post-trump where it's just like the all meaning breaks down right you're just debating whether words mean anything at a certain point yeah that's going to be hard uh at a certain point when if we don't have a working definition of things like air yeah water because that's, I can imagine as things become a little more fraught resource wise,
Starting point is 00:04:49 I'd be like, well, what do people, what are rights even actually? Yeah. I guess it started with Clinton's depends on your definition of what the word is, is right.
Starting point is 00:04:59 But yeah, should never let those lawyers in. You know what I'm saying? Tell them, tell them soldier boys. Oh man. That dance contest was cruel that we witnessed at the Vegas summer league. Oh,
Starting point is 00:05:16 why are you bringing that up? I put that out of my mind. That's not even a thing that even, who is that going to resonate with? It's like, they started out the dance contest with, uh, that was weird.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Okay. So people don't, okay. Here's a little insight. You ever been to an event where they do like the interstitial, like entertainment things. You've seen a dance contest between quarters or at halftime. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:37 Yeah. They had three people come up on half court and they said, it's a Dan who's got the best dance moves. I was like, this is clearly a setup for one of them to be like a ringer, like break dancer or something. No, none of them were like super and set in like,
Starting point is 00:05:51 you know, above and beyond talented. They could all dance. Or the song or the ringer froze up. Cause they did have like a little child out there and then he just kind of was just okay. Well, yeah,
Starting point is 00:06:01 he started actually getting pretty sturdy with it. I thought the real music came on, but again, I i think that anyway they played the worst music for people to dance to and it just felt like a setup all that to say sorry that uh you had to dance to soldier boy soldier boy was the first one and it was just like the guy was confused he's like every three seconds he was like at the dj like you want me to get down to this shit? Anyway. Do better in-game DJs. Burger King has introduced a new cheesier way to kill you in Thailand. It's a new sandwich called the Real Cheeseburger, which is literally just a hamburger bun with 20 slices of cheese.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Yeah. just a hamburger bun with like 20 slices of cheese yeah 20 slices of American like processed cheese like Kraft cheese singles stacked up on top of it no meat in a jungle like pile no meat no sauce just bread and 20 loose slices
Starting point is 00:07:00 of American cheese is this am I missing something I think it's I mean just the fact that we're talking about it means it's working i guess the fact that every like it became a big internet trend burger king actually had distress in social media posts of the sandwiches no joke yeah what are they doing on tiktok like what's the is it was it was there like a grimace shake version of having the real cheeseburger where you eat 20 slices of processed cheese and then your blood turns to plastic?
Starting point is 00:07:29 I mean, it's, it had, like, I feel like the Grimace Shake was pretty easy to acquire and also pretty easy. It goes down pretty easy, you know? Yeah. Um, this, you would have to, you know, painstakingly peel all those pieces of American cheese. So some people have come out and said that, like, it's a bit too much and too intense. Shocking. Well, one review said that it was shockingly bad and doesn't even come with any sauce.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Burger King throws in some ketchup packets in case okay cool yeah uh just reading from the review yeah it sucks i mean i already knew it was going to suck but for the sake of journalism and because my boss forced me to raise please i had to bite the uh cheese to be fair each of my colleagues in my team including my boss also took a bite of the abomination just so we can check we're all on the same page and yes we're all in agreement that it is horrid oh okay literally burger bun 20 slices of cheese and burger bun there's no sauce so burger can graciously throw in some ketchup packets so is there an ingredient that you could eat one whole like just a whole sandwich is that one ingredient i would have said american cheese to be honest with you i do love that's a grilled cheese though you know what i mean that's what i'm thinking when i'm
Starting point is 00:08:48 eating it but this picture the cheese isn't even melted like you're just no it's not that's like biting a cheese block of american cheese it looks like they've intentionally made it on appetizing because yeah the cheese looks it does it all it doesn't look like it just came out of the refrigerator and it also doesn't look melted it looks like it's at that place where it's been sitting out for a while it's been like at room temp for too long exactly it's just kind of like one slice of cheese draped atop the other and i have a feeling that it's not going to be put together with all the care that this sandwich in the ad is where each cheese is like specifically offset from the one on top of it by like 20 degrees. Well,
Starting point is 00:09:35 uh, ties. I gang, let us know. Yeah. Or don't, uh, do yourself a favor and don't let us know.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Could you eat a sandwich that's just all onions and bread? And I'm not allowed to have mustard or pickles with it? Okay, you can add one thing to your onion sandwich. What are you going to add? Probably pickles. Because pickles will overwhelm it and kind of be
Starting point is 00:10:00 a nice compliment and it'll remind me of hot dogs enough. But Jack, just so you know, the way this sandwich is made, it's just a whole onion. Not even cut. Unpeeled. Just bite into it and start weeping. Oh, God. Alright, Elizabeth Holmes' sentence
Starting point is 00:10:15 has been reduced by two years for some reason. According to records, it was quietly shortened by two years. Now her release date is scheduled for december 12th 2032 um oh and still still a ways off okay still a ways off yeah um but yeah nobody's really clear on why and also her co-conspirator sunny balwani also got his sentence reduced by two years oh possibly it's good conduct, but that would be weird if they were just both getting the same good conduct
Starting point is 00:10:48 reward at the same time. Yeah. So I'm really curious about this prison facility that she's in where also Jen Shaw of real housewives of Salt Lake city is also serving out her six and a half year prison sentence. And it's like, it's like when they describe it, the facility sits on 37 acres is home to more than 500 inmates.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Most of whom are serving for nonviolent offenses and white collar crimes. So it was club fed. Yeah. The fact that there's not a reality show set in the walls of that prison, like proves just how, yeah, Bravo. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:11:22 It feels so picturesque, 37 acres for 500 people? That seems like a good spread. Oh, all for stealing from people. Okay, cool. Good for her. It's good to see. You know, saw consequences, but then got out of them, which is always...
Starting point is 00:11:39 We like to update you when that happens. It would be wild, though, if Elizabeth Holmes were like, we're having to add time because she's so out of control behind the walls over here she's just wiling in here fucking people up she's trying to start a gang in this prison there are no gang people gang affiliated in here she's trying to start a gang yeah all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll be back. Forgive me for I have followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers,
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Starting point is 00:15:26 teenage son as a blood bag yeah um has announced uh he won't be receiving any more blood plasma infusions from his teenage son because uh that's fucked up no uh actually it's because there were quote no benefits detected Oh no benefits detected And then he blamed his son for having Shit blood his own son I think this kid must be fucking vaping or something His blood isn't oxygenated at all What are you fucking smoking behind my back
Starting point is 00:15:55 This shit ain't hitting right I don't know like where is I'm wondering if for someone like that Cause this is the guy who's like trying to reverse the clock on his aging That's how he got into the whole thing If he's gonna put that to bed like do you think there's a domino effect here or he's just or is he just saying my kid's plasma's booty and it ain't hitting the same or he's saying you know what maybe the blood shit ain't working he is specifying i will
Starting point is 00:16:19 not receive any more blood plasma infusions from my teenage son. That's what I'm saying. He's leaving that door open, isn't he? Exactly. Did you have a light bulb moment where you said, I don't know if this shit actually... I ain't really feeling it. Or he's truly in that mode where it's all denial and he's like, it's his shitty blood. It's not the fucking concept of it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 We're going to move on to six-year-olds to see how that works out as a producer brian pointed out he found out his son's not a virgin and you need virgin blood oh obviously yeah that's the sweet stuff according to vampires my vampires out there um senator chuck schumer um has asked the fda to look into prime a substance that we covered recently that is logan paul's high caffeine energy drink and ksi let's not leave ksi out of it and ksi yeah this is the thing that was like a status symbol people were like money phoning with uh like packs of prime right like selling uh photo ops with the
Starting point is 00:17:28 empty bottles for like a hundred dollars right well and again it has what like double the caffeine of a red bull yeah so yeah maybe that you know i think i i grew up hearing caffeine's not great for kids yeah you know like a shitload of it. Um, but I don't know, man, like if Logan Paul and KSI say this shit tastes like cotton candy, then fuck.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Yeah. Sweet as gold. Um, yeah, yeah. But it sounds like there's already schools that are like banning prime and shit. I guess it's like,
Starting point is 00:17:57 I guess this must be fun for kids. Cause it's like for local, for minors. Right. Exactly. You know, where they're like, yo,
Starting point is 00:18:03 I got some pre-band prime at home and people just like flexing with it my first experience with addiction was study hall at my kentucky high school sophomore year where i just started drinking a mountain dew every every day and then i noticed that when i didn't drink it i got headaches and wanted to like leave the planet um and then you blamed your own brain you're like it just needs more do that's the problem that's right it was one way track to nowhere's bill after yeah the closest thing at my school was that they they had to ban in terms of shit we were eating that they're like get this shit out of here was this shit called raven's revenge and it was a plastic test tube that was basically like a pixie stick in a big plastic test tube
Starting point is 00:18:51 and kids are just fucking slamming like really big ones yeah yeah yeah it's like this big and you're just like 14 candy bars of yeah yeah yeah yeah and they're like this is they're like no like no one knows what the fuck's going on they're like trading vials of it it just it was freaking the parents on they banned raven's revenge from my school raven's revenge yeah although like it probably has more to do with the fact that it's a unapologetic it's just like yeah no that's straight up sugar that's kind of what we're doing here and also also it wasn't released by like PepsiCo or something. So it didn't, but I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:27 I get it when you look at it, you're like, it was just colored chemicals with sugar that we were eating and ignoring our teachers by being like, Oh, you got the sick, you got the new flavor. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:19:39 shouts to those terrible poisons we ingested. Um, they noted in their, uh, Shouts to those terrible poisons we ingested. They noted in their statement that the drink is not recommended for children under age 18. And it contains 200 milligrams of caffeine, which is the equivalent to about half a dozen Coke cans or nearly two Red Bulls. Okay, well, that's just like your opinion, man. So let the kids rock with Prime. Half a dozen Coke cans is too many
Starting point is 00:20:06 Coke cans worth of anything. It does. Oh, so you're basically... Why didn't they just say a six-pack? That resonates a little more. You just basically slammed a six-pack of Coke. A six-pack of Coke. Yeah. Alright. Climate update.
Starting point is 00:20:22 We did it. We hit the highest average temperature last week. So congratulations to late stage capitalism. And we're starting to see bad shit happen in places that we don't usually see it. There's catastrophic
Starting point is 00:20:38 flooding swamping Vermont from the intense storms. Hudson Valley to New York. Yeah yeah it's it's pretty into pennsylvania yeah the footage out up there wild the flash flooding uh and i hope people are saying rain and flooding since 1927 in vermont yeah but jack that's just like your opinion man exactly that also works are just like your opinion man oh my god you know someone's gonna say that shit probably no well that's just their opinion that is i mean that is their
Starting point is 00:21:13 rebuttal to climate change and whether it's caused by man yeah or it was for a long time uh and finally the wonka trailers here i had lost track of the wonkas but this is the one with timothy chalamet and it's i i was fully not on board until i read that it is made by the maker of paddington yeah i'm i saw the trailer i'm i'm first of all i'm glad it's not charlie and the chocolate factory it's about i guess walk the story walk on his grind so to speak you know starting from nothing starting out his trunk you know what i mean and then taking it to the tippy top uh but i was also like it felt there was what's going on with the the black girl the little girl that is he white savoring her throughout the film yeah oh okay okay okay
Starting point is 00:22:06 okay okay um cool it's whimsical they make a pinky promise because africa doesn't exist in this world yeah or slavery promise which they say is the most sacred bond that someone can make yeah um i just honestly i'm not gonna lie when him and the little girl were flying around on a balloon like holding like set like a thing of like 700 balloons and flying around i don't know why i think it's because i've become a parent i'm like that looks so fucking unsafe you don't know how strong anyone's grip is gonna go fucking 500 feet in the air like that what if you fall yeah and then i forget really wonka pixar was smart by making it attached to a house so it wasn't a thing that like kids would try and emulate but this it's all over once they see this wonka thing
Starting point is 00:22:50 this wonka business didn't every kid try and think they could fly if they held enough fucking balloons yeah i think we've i mean like we have plenty of examples where we're like oh yeah i'm having that seeing what the fuck happens there and then twist an ankle or some shit. Can you fly? Like how many balloons are we talking here? I feel like, what's his name? David Blaine did it, didn't he? Well, there's that Nathan for you. Remember when they said there was a weight limit on horseback riding and his solution for like a horseback riding business and for people who are over the weight limit was to attach like huge balloons to them to alleviate some of the weight on the horse's back do you remember that one i don't remember though like when they were
Starting point is 00:23:28 like trail riding they were like people escorting the balloon so it wouldn't get popped like on tree branches and shit and it was the most fucking inefficient thing ever because it's you know nathan for you yeah uh to lift a average adult, you would need 5,000 balloons. Oh, and you probably don't want to go. You probably want to have a couple extra balloons in there. Cause you, you don't want it to just,
Starting point is 00:23:55 you know, 10 of them to pop. And suddenly. Wow. Super producer. Brian just put in this Wikipedia article for lawn chair, Larry flight, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:04 which I didn't know in 1982, Larry Walters made a 45 minute flight in a homemade aerostat made of an ordinary patio chair and 45 helium filled weather balloons. I went from San Pedro to fucking long beach airport. They are weather balloons. They, the balloons, each balloon is larger than he is.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Oh yeah. I think that's the distinction, but wait, what makes something a weather balloon like those look like just big they have like scientific measurement apparatus stuck to them and they're massive enough that like airplanes aren't gonna i don't know i don't know what my logic was there at the end don't worry go on go on i like that that That airplanes are going to see them and not crash into them, which that can't be true. Um,
Starting point is 00:24:46 and in fact, being larger might cause more of a problem than a regular balloon. But yeah, I think, I think they're big. They're the thing that always gets blamed for UFO sightings. I mean, but with enough helium,
Starting point is 00:25:00 like the, I think I brought this up on the show, uh, recently that the Goodyear blimp is filled with helium. Yeah. Yeah. And look at us. And we're in a dirigible crisis in our world right now.
Starting point is 00:25:10 We need dirigibles. Thank you. We need, like, now that we've got the orb, we need more dirigibles to just floating through the air. Just create a whimsical. I love this Wikipedia article because it tells you about all these subsequent people who did cluster balloon flights. Like in 2008, a Brazilian Roman Catholic priest and human rights defender, he lifted off from Ampere, Brazil, with 600 helium-filled party balloons, reached an altitude of 5,300 meters, and then landed safely in Argentina. Like, they're all ending like and he did
Starting point is 00:25:45 it and it was tight as fuck so it turns out not dangerous at all go out and grab a cluster of weather balloons filled with helium holy shit i think weather balloons like must be pretty tough right they're not just made of the same thing that other balloons are made of no no no no definitely not uh yeah well look and then yeah like you said david blaine 2020 this guy's done it all man god here's some fucking greatness for the rest of us david launcher larry as superducer victor pointed out was almost immediately arrested after he landed because you're not allowed to just do that ah yeah yeah yeah well we know he
Starting point is 00:26:25 broke some part of the federal aviation act and as soon as we decide which part it is some type of charge will be filed if you had a pilot's license we'd suspend that but he doesn't that's what i said a dude hanging on to some balloons just do with some loons man doing my thing they did call it uh cluster ballooning he created the extreme sport of cluster ballooning hell yeah that's like i never have dreams where i can fly but i have dreams where i'm like light too light to like touch the ground and like when i do try and like run or jump like i like push off a foot from the ground it's very frustrating it's like the opposite of like why people dream that they can fly you're always just slightly
Starting point is 00:27:10 your balloon you just need more balloons man that's right all right well those are some of the things that are trending on this tuesday july 11th 7-11 happy 7-11 day go get your uh slurpees slurpees right not slushies slushies slushies slushies slurshees we are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine don't do nothing about white supremacy do not and we will talk to y'all tomorrow. All right. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:28:49 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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