The Daily Zeitgeist - Too Sexy For These Trends 5/12: Trump, Culdesac, AI, Pope Leo, White Sox, Cubs

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

In this edition of Too Sexy For These Trends, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, more Trumpfake Trade War nonsense, the "first town purpose built to be car-free"*, AI stealing copyright...ed works, Pope Leo: a Cubs or White Sox fan? and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm too sexy for this syrup. I'm too sexy for this syrup? For this syrup. Is that what he said? I think so. Wow. That's, that's actually the saddest shit you could say. Don't say that.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Don't say that. You're not. I'm too sexy for this drug I abuse? What's the flex there? I'm too sexy for the syrup. Okay. That's what's going on. I haven't abused it to the point that I can't pronounce words.
Starting point is 00:00:31 I just like, I'm too sexy for it. I'm so sexy that I'm all I do is drink Promethazine. That's how sexy I am. That's how sexy I am. That's what I tried when they, when they were asking me if I was a, if I had a problem, you know, I was like, I think I might just be too sexy. Bro, I think I might be too sexy for this vodka. I'm drinking in my closet.
Starting point is 00:00:57 It's so sexy. No, no substance abuse rationalization just dropped. I'm just too sexy for it. No, honey, you've lost three jobs consecutively because you keep sipping lean. No, I'm sexy for this, sir. All right. Okay. Um. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? What we have all been waiting for.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Sarah Jessica Parker is here and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up.
Starting point is 00:01:52 I completely forgot about it. And she reveals what she thought when she read the script for Sex and the City the very first time. He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way, which I found really interesting. And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big? She had inexplicable feelings.
Starting point is 00:02:08 It is the human being that can't explain to her friends why somebody that might be beneath her is dictating the hunt. You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.
Starting point is 00:02:40 It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake Gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot matter of fact Here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show I live with my boyfriend and I found his pizjar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house.
Starting point is 00:03:14 So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here. I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together,
Starting point is 00:03:45 go for it. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50, Connie? How long have you guys been together? Yeah, no, 52. 52. 52! I adopted my son as a single mom
Starting point is 00:04:00 because I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. I want to change the narrative about single parents and also help to create a community for single parents so that they can not feel alone in it. One of the big things is it's so hard, especially for women to ask for help. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job or a place or a relationship? Join me, Emily Tish-Sussman, over on She Pivots, where I explore the inspiring pivots of women, dig deeper into the personal reasons behind them, and leave you with the inspiration you need to make your next pivot. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth. And I'm Caitlin Murray. Both women pivoted out of their careers after having their kids, proving that
Starting point is 00:05:02 motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. It's like, it's kind of like, will you have more babies? Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes. Because I was really in the trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this week trend edition of Dirty Daily Sidekast. Yeah. Yeah. Ooh, you sound curious today.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, I'm a bit curious today, yes. I'm quite curious. My, I'm a bit. Yeah, I'm curious. My name is Jack O'Brien. Over there is my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yeah. Wow. What a weekend. What a weekend. What a weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Do you have a weekend? Yeah, but also just like the news fucking sucks is like that lady got you see the arrest in Worcester, Massachusetts. No, the town came out to try and prevent ICE from taking this mother away. I did see that, yes. The local cops were in on it too and you're like, Jesus Christ. And then you're like, yeah, Mother's Day, weeeee! Happy Mother's Day, everyone.
Starting point is 00:06:21 But yeah, good time, good time. Seems bad. I did, I know this will go into my over under, but yeah. I think I did, I think I did pretty good on Mother's Day. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I did. Although Her Majesty didn't like the take where I said,
Starting point is 00:06:37 you know, without me, you wouldn't be a mother today. So. That wasn't taken well. And then I was like, was like, wouldn't that be a bit someone would do? Uh, uh, uh. I was like, babe, there's a reason I didn't call out your ability to get my jokes in this Mother's Day card. Dude, that feels like, I was just jokingly, I did tell, I was saying, I was like,
Starting point is 00:07:01 I'm surprised we don't see more like conservative, like talker men being like, coming after Mother's Day somehow. I feel like that's, we're getting dangerously close. If we're gonna completely discount everything that like non men do, I feel like Mother's Day might be happening. Or it's just like the one day where they're like, it's how I right the wrongs of everything I do every day.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Right, spiritually. It's how they get it off their chest. Maybe just be a good partner all day. It is wild, because I get a lot. My kids are at the age where they're, you know, on a mother's or father's day, they're wanting to know what about kids' day, which does exist in Korea.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, they have that in Japan too. Yeah, yeah. My thing is always like, well, every day is like kind of kids' day, you know, you get, and then you get like your birthdays and, but really when you think about the fact that we still have Father's Day, like kids deserve a day more than fathers deserve a day, I feel like, in many ways. Is that called their fucking birthday, Jack? Yeah. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Sorry, I'm like, y'all don't deserve no fucking day. I would have answered your kid like I did when my home girl in high school, this white girl, asked why it would be problematic, if there's black entertainment television, why there's no white entertainment television. And my answer was, look around. So when a child is like, where's children's day?
Starting point is 00:08:29 I say, look around, look around you, son. You don't got to work. It's all yours. You just you just eat and be merry. You should have a children's day where we just make it so they see what it's like if every day isn't children's day. Yeah. One day. That's right. Show them. Yeah. I'd be like, okay son, hop in the booth, talk about the genocide in Gaza and the creepy,
Starting point is 00:08:52 no, I mean American fashion, go ahead, go, go. Just nails it. Oh, yeah I know. Just steps better than both of us. Yeah. The way his two-year-old articulated, just the morality of it all, I was in tears. Yeah. All right. Well, this is the episode where we cover some of the news that happened over the
Starting point is 00:09:10 weekend. We also cover some things that we think are overrated, underrated. Miles, do you want to kick us off with something you think is underrated? Underrated, yes. First up, almond extract in your French toast go do it. Okay I made a brioche French toast casserole. It used a little vanilla extract. I see you know what her majesty likes almond She likes, you know marzipan. She's down with that almond flavor. So I got a little almond extract Damn just a teaspoon and a half in there So fucking I love almond like like almond, deep almond extracty flavor that in a fucking French toast took it to the next level. So anyway, just consider that kind of bread you use it on your French toast brioche brioche. Yeah, I want that buttery
Starting point is 00:09:57 bread. You know what I mean? It really just gets gooey delicious. The other one underrated taking a full dryer load out with your arms in one go. Every single thing, clean out the fucking dryer. One go, boom, you're out. One go, you're not dropping a sock. Not a fucking sack. Not a single fucking thing touches the ground. And no basket underneath the mouth. Hell no basket. You're taking it and moving it to the next location all in your arms. I'm like that former playmate Kendra Wilkinson after she got divorced no basket She was married to Hank Football player
Starting point is 00:10:37 Yeah, I'm sans basket I always have been we even before the fire Even before even when we had a laundry basket, I was all arms unload. Yeah. Taking that shit out, there's a science to it, okay? An art, an intimate understanding between the rigidity of the fabrics,
Starting point is 00:10:56 the gravity, and your own capacity to contain all. The rigidity of the fabrics, wow. Yeah, because sometimes you're like, ooh, that was gonna flop over. You're like, I might have to be a little bit more of an arm on that. This one's thick. If I get enough, have enough you're like, ooh, that was gonna flop over. You're like, I might have to get a little bit more of an arm on that. This one's thick. If I get enough, have enough pressure on it,
Starting point is 00:11:09 that shit can hang off my arm and it will not touch the ground. So is this just another week where I did something unremarkable and I'm asking for more praise? No. You're looking for something? You're looking for some help? In a weird coincidence, how come Her Majesty
Starting point is 00:11:23 doesn't think recovering from an ear slip and emptying a dryer in one go is unremarkable? Why is that? Yeah. Just something to think about. I just, I don't know. Is one of your tactics that you don't use fabric softener, like bounce sheets in the wash
Starting point is 00:11:39 so that everything just sticks together from static? Oh yeah, no, no, we don't have. The static actually isn't that bad, to be honest. Wait, you know, the static actually isn't that bad to be honest. Wait, you don't you don't use the bound sheets. I do sometimes when I have them in this post fire era. I've definitely gone to brass tacks. I'm like, oh, yeah, dryer sheets, the seasoning of laundry. Sooner let the let the clothes mold.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Then use it without dry sheets. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's it's all it's all up to you. It all works It all works, but getting it out soft. I'm just saying there's just that satisfaction again. It's something and shout out to everybody I know people who regularly do this you you know that feeling and I salute you too You get it to the next spot and just yeah drop it. Just drop it on the floor into the next room. Done! You shout to her majesty. All right, did it. Wash is done.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Did you put them in the bathtub again? Yep. Damn, Brian the editor is always coming with conspiracy theories that I hadn't even thought about. What do dryer sheets even work? What's the point? Isn't it just, I mean, in my mind, it was just made it smell better. It guards against static and it also like gives them a nice little freshness.
Starting point is 00:12:58 In my experience, they've worked. I've definitely noticed the difference where they stick to your body. I guess in the era when I wore a lot of polyester fake fabrics, like shimmery basketball shorts, that wasn't pulling those shits out of the dryer and they're just like... Those could power a small town for a week after you get them out. Like a defibrillator, just fucking go in there and pull two shorts apart in a dryer and it'll give you requisite shock to get your heart going. Oh, that's interesting.
Starting point is 00:13:28 So Brian is, Brian just doesn't get static. And so that's why he doesn't believe in it. But some of us are very staticky out here and I blame myself. All right, my underrated, I just, so I heard a podcast yesterday that kind of blew my mind. Uh, it was an episode of the show search engine. I heard one and a half episodes of search engine. Uh, the good one is, uh, responsible for my under and then the, uh, bad one is responsible for my
Starting point is 00:14:00 over. So, um, the underrated, like the, it was a episode about, it was interviewing this guy who has this book airborne out. That's about how we figured out that viruses can travel in the air. Like basically what we now know about how COVID was transmitted. Um, I, I thought we knew that shit. Like I just felt like my model of the world was always that like people sneeze, virus gets in air and then like you gotta hold your breath because we didn't
Starting point is 00:14:35 have masks when I was a kid. And, but apparently like that was even heading into the pandemic that was like somewhat controversial and like the reason that the World Health Organization Like default went with like wash your groceries was that they were still unsure about the idea of like airborne disease and like I Don't know like the pre so basically they track like. This idea was introduced in the early 20th century by this married couple. That the idea of like airborne viruses and like globules and, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:13 all the stuff that we now know about how COVID traveled and like why masking helped. But before that, like this before germ theory, the theory was miasmas, which is like bad air. It was like that, well, you can't open your window if you're sick because then the bad air is gonna travel in through your window and kill you. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:15:35 It was dumb and incorrect. More your old logic, sure. So they, like one of the theories is that the like suggesting that illness traveled through the air was seen as so stupid after that that they were just like, yeah, we're not that that's stupid. And so these people introduced the idea of like germs being in the air and like kind of proved it pretty definitively. But they were annoying. They were so annoying. Like, yeah, they're just they were like iconoclastic and, you know, were just suspicious of everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And they basically their bad personality is one of the theories goes sets scientific and like, you know, the study of how disease spreads back like decades because there was just like, nah, fuck those people. And then like, by the time, by the time of like the odds and even into the like teens at the beginning of COVID, like their studies were still like some of the best work that had been done. But like you had to like call the institution where they worked and have them send you photocopied pages of their work so that you could do your research and base it on that. Eventually, they got a small following. But it's just one of those things where I feel like when I was in school, growing up,
Starting point is 00:17:03 I was just like, we have everything figured out, you know We're we we know everything like science science knows everything He's closed on everything case closed exactly Yeah, and that was incorrect and also like makes the world seem less interesting than it actually is because you're just like whatever like that seems like it seems like the scientists have it figured out and like the seems like it seems like the scientists have it figured out. And, and then here we are, there we were in like 2020, like washing our groceries because a bunch of people didn't want to believe that germs could like travel through the air. And I just feel,
Starting point is 00:17:37 I feel like there's more ways than we realize that people in the future will look back on us and we'll look like, you know, the image that always comes to my mind is like when people were like working out with that belt that jiggles your belly around while like smoking a cigarette, you know, like that's what we're going to look like in many ways in the future. Hopefully it's because of like how on our phones we were, but I think there's also other ways that we're kind of in the dark ages that we probably don't understand or appreciate fully. We've definitely in the dark ages in many areas for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Yeah, yeah. When you said, wrote the book Airborne, I thought you were referencing the 1993 movie about the guy who had to move to Cincinnati and he's a rollerblader and Seth Green is in it. Yeah, yeah, I assumed they were the same thing. Is that not what that movie's about? I was waiting for you to get to the part
Starting point is 00:18:34 about how he rollerbladed down Devil's backbone. Where he solves it by rollerblading. Yeah, down Devil's backbone. One of the few movies that came out when I lived in Dayton, I was like, that's fucking Ohio based movie. This crazy. It's like that was shot in California. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Those were the days. Yeah. Also the like interview with the guy. So this guy is like maybe overboard in the like airborne direction take place in Cincinnati. Hey, all right. They shot it there. Yeah. There you go. And you could tell every, every shot of take place in Cincinnati. Hey, all right. They shot it there. Yeah, there you go. And you could tell every every shot of that was screaming Cincinnati. Yeah, when they were eating buckets of Skyline Chili,
Starting point is 00:19:11 they have a great Oktoberfest there. If you ever need a second specific for the city of Cincinnati, a great Oktoberfest, a lot of Apple strudel and just a massive party there. I'm to do I'm strudel. just a massive party there. Oh, Einstrudel. Einstrudel, the guy who wrote the book and is, I guess he's like an epidemiologist. I don't know what exactly his training is, but like he keeps, he's just a...
Starting point is 00:19:34 Rollerblader. Yeah, dude, I fucking killed it down Devil's Back. This is how I got interested in it, was the movie Airborne. And somehow that led me back. It's just a big Michael Jordan fan and then Seth Green movie and then came about. But he carries a portable carbon monoxide detector on him. And basically, this is something that I always like suspected and like I'm going to have to do additional research, but his thing is that like, as the, if you're in a room by yourself with the windows and doors closed, the carbon monoxide levels
Starting point is 00:20:10 are going to go up and up like very slowly and minimally because you are exhaling. And it's like, it's basically a measure of how much of your breath is in the air when you're measuring it. And he basically said that like, he keeps this on him. And if he's like on a plane before they turn the air filters on, for instance, or, you know, just in a room, like this reminded me of when I was in classrooms when I was a kid, and like they have all the doors and windows closed. And like, suddenly I'm like, started, like by the end of it, I feel like I can barely stay awake. That might've been because shit was boring,
Starting point is 00:20:48 but it also might be because of all the breath that was in the air is like, you know, but anyways, he was saying, you can see how much breath is in the air with these little detectors. And then like once it gets above a certain level or he sees it heading in that direction, he masks up, Which was interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Makes me feel like that. Wait, but don't we exhale carbon dioxide? What's the, it's just- I think I said the wrong thing. I always get those wrong. Carbon dioxide, whatever the one is that we exhale, goes up as you- Oh, because carbon dioxide is like the thing for your house.
Starting point is 00:21:19 I was like- It's the thing that kills you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's carbon dioxide. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. Which doesn't kill you, but does make me sleepy. I'm a big dioxide fan.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah, so you're a big, and I'm always trying to give carbon monoxide credit for things, you know? You're always like, yeah, plants need it to survive. I'm like, Jack, that's not. It's the wrong one. Stop telling your kids that, they're gonna get bullied. What is something Miles, you think's overrated? Overrated, this goes back to Mother's Day,
Starting point is 00:21:49 overdoing it with the flowers as a gift. Like I think there is a reflex in straight American men to just buy the fuck out of some flowers to show your gratitude. Yeah, and it's like the most thoughtless gift. I think if you know what your partner likes, by all means. Sure. I've through trial and error, I started off like,
Starting point is 00:22:12 I look like that evolutionary chart where I started off as like Cro-Magnon flower giver man. Yeah, but I'm like, here, 12, two dozen roses. It's like your majesty's like, dude, what the fuck is this? How much did this cost? I'm like, they were fucking up. I didn't even know how much. So expensive.
Starting point is 00:22:30 So expensive. Oh my God. And I would tell you the price, but I think that's a bit gauche. So I'm just gonna be like. And also I think you would be mad at me. Yeah, to the point where she's like, I know what a dozen costs, like this is such, I remember getting it just immediately being like, this is not a good gift.
Starting point is 00:22:46 And not like in a fuck you kind of way, I'm just like, let me edu- edutain you for a second. Just because they are expensive doesn't mean I'm gonna like them. And I also realized her majesty loves like wildflowers. Like she likes, so I went to the florist and I went, I was like, where are your like wildflowers at? They're like in there, they're like put together
Starting point is 00:23:07 whatever you want, you can walk out of here for like 30 bucks. And I was like, whatever I want. He's like, yeah, if it's just like the wildflower stuff, go ahead. Just pick that shit off the side of the highway, bro. Take as much as you want. Then this other dude comes in, sweaty, slicked back hair, looks like a total piece of shit,
Starting point is 00:23:24 like middle-aged dude like me. And Amid is like, I need three dozen, he came in like out of breath. Three dozen roses. He goes, I need three dozen red roses. I really fucked up this time. Yeah, it was so like, his energy, I didn't wanna be, I didn't,
Starting point is 00:23:40 like obviously there could be nuance to his story, maybe there are three people, but then I kept listening and they're like separate He's like nah, I just need one big bouquet three dozen red roses As quick as you can Is this guy going through and I just I'm just thinking you know as as you you know This is part of like understanding your partner more You don't you don't just get the big stupid bouquet of flowers, because that's not always what they want.
Starting point is 00:24:05 For me, it's like, you need some wildflowers. Hermesy likes card, likes food. I like to cook. And I've really doubted him before. Like I would try and go overboard with like the gifts because I would be like, I don't know what to do. Rather than again, just express. Yeah, just express.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, okay, if you don't like this Michael Jordan life size cutout, you're gonna like this locket engraved with our son's initials or this French toast. I don't know. Or this locket engraved with Michael Jordan's initials. Right, right. MJ Jeffery Jordan. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 So I would just say, you know, just a little thought goes a long way. Just the empty gesture of just pulling up with an in panicking bouquet of flowers is such a doll. It's it doesn't always work. It doesn't always work. And in fact, most of the time, they're like, I would have rather you spent that same amount of money on like anything else. Yeah. That flowers that are will look nice, obviously.
Starting point is 00:25:02 But then they they go away real quick. I usually try and get some nice flowers that are, you know, I have a sense of what my wife likes, but this year, you know, some family sent some flowers, so we had a lot of flowers already, so I was like, fortunately, I wasn't like relying on that to be the only thing. Yeah, you're like, hey, babe,
Starting point is 00:25:24 four pound bag of shredded cheddar. Pretty cool. What do you think of that? That could be a mother's day. No. Yeah. No, I was just joking. That was a joke, babe. Let me go get the real one really quick. I'll be back in 45 minutes. Tires screeching. All right. My overrated is horseshoe theory. Have you, have you heard centrist talk, talk horseshoe theory? So far one direction you end up. Yeah. Where you are, man. The other guys are always never yet.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Never used to talk about people on the right. It's almost always used to talk about how people on the left are actually crazy. And they're actually just as bad as Donald Trump, if you think about it. And I don't know. So this podcast search engine like had a good original, you know, interview with that guy who wrote Airborne. And then the next episode was about crypto. I was like, maybe they can like make some sense of crypto
Starting point is 00:26:28 and like what what's going on with that. But they just like brought NPR's planet money in to do it. And these guys were just not it for me. And they I don't know. They kept like they just casually were like, I think they were talking about a joke That's so unfunny that it becomes funny and they were like it's like a meme horseshoe theory Because like the ends of the spectrum meet up But it's just like I realized like that for some reason that was the final straw and I was just like these motherfuckers
Starting point is 00:27:02 Just like love saying horseshoe theory when it's like no matter what they just think, they think it makes them sound smart. It's fucking stupid. It's just a way for centrist to feel like they're superior over people who aren't centrist. And they keep bringing it up at a time when the only thing that's going to save us is people to the left of them actually making progress and you know they yeah they just think everything to the left of Joe Biden is dangerous. I mean it's pretty convenient to just always be like oh okay well you're just like them now because you're just like them somehow. Universal health care? Yeah. You know, they're advocating for cut Medicaid cuts. Yeah, just take everything away.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Okay, yeah. So wanting everyone to have everything is the same as wanting only white, straight people to have everything. Only them. Yeah. It like, okay, okay, okay. It's still even real. Not even them.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Like, you don't even get universal health care. You just won't be on the receiving end of the government's violence, I guess. Yeah. But I don't know. It's again like they weren't even talking about it in that respect, but it just feels like I've heard enough people say it in that in that world. Right. Just like, God, they fucking they just can't get enough. Yeah. What else?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Also, that's their like scientific accounting of how comedy works in an episode where they repeatedly are like doing that. I'm also just over like punning like that. I've in a New York Times article that we're going to cover later on. Like there is like paved the way in an article about town design. And they were like, no pun intended. Oh, just like these fucking people. They said that.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Yeah. Or they were like, so to speak. I think they did a so to speak. Oh, God. Yeah. Just fucking say it. And it's fine. Yeah. That's not. I'm not all right with it.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Go out of your way to take that shit. Yeah. Pave the way in a road. Ever use pave the way I'm fine with the way I'm anti thinking that you've done something when you've done a little pun that like thinking that's comedy. Would you be in fine if they just use said then they've paved the way for other things? Next sentence. Yeah. Don't stop.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And the way we do in the big Catherine Han wink. Yeah, don't don't stop. And the way so to speak, uh huh. Doing the big Katherine Hahn wink. Yeah. It's like, why is that image printed in the middle of this sentence? Yeah. Huh. But yeah, it's it's all like it's just such like it's because the horseshoe in question is like a plotted on a graph. So it feels smart. And it's just like, no, like none of it's it's stupid. It's very not nuanced.
Starting point is 00:29:48 And it's like exactly wrong at this point in history to be talking, to be repeatedly bring it up, even when it like doesn't make sense to bring it up. It's very frustrating. Shut the fuck up. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about some news. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? What we have all been waiting for. Sarah Jessica Parker is here and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode. I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up. I completely forgot about it. And she reveals what she thought when she read the script for Sex and the City the very first time.
Starting point is 00:30:40 He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way, which I found really interesting. And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big? She had inexplicable feelings. Got it. It is a human being that can't explain to her friends why somebody that might be beneath her is dictating the hunt.
Starting point is 00:30:58 You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte? on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now
Starting point is 00:31:16 and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise
Starting point is 00:31:36 it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I found his pizzeria in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29,
Starting point is 00:31:55 they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together, go for it. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what,
Starting point is 00:32:33 50 Connie? How long have you guys been together? Yeah, no, 52. 52. 52. I adopted my son as a single mom because I kept thinking, oh, I'm gonna meet the guy, I'm gonna meet the guy, I'm gonna meet the guy. I finally was like meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy.
Starting point is 00:32:45 I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. I want to change the narrative about single parents and also help to create a community for single parents so that they can not feel alone in it. One of the big things is it's so hard, especially for women, to ask for help. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job or a place or a relationship? Join me, Emily Tish-Sussman, over on She Pivots, where I explore the inspiring pivots of women, dig deeper into the personal reasons behind them, and leave you with the inspiration you need to make your next pivot. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth.
Starting point is 00:33:38 And I'm Keelan Murray. Both women pivoted out of their careers after having their kids, proving that motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. It's kind of like, will you have more babies? Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes. Because I was really in the trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom. Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back.
Starting point is 00:34:18 We're back. And so are the markets, maybe? Sweet. For the moment, maybe. For the moment, maybe. For the moment, you know, Trump, we always say he's pumpfakin'. He's Trumpfakin'. And that's what we're getting again with the fucking tariff wars, trade wars. So we just got word that the tariffs will be paused for 90 days between the US and China,
Starting point is 00:34:44 and Trump is claiming victory somehow. But the pause again will impose a a mere 30% duty on goods from China down from 145%. And China will reduce its tariffs on products made in the USA to 10% from 125%. So basically, they're both like, okay, let's dial tariffs back by 115%. We were really getting wild there for a second. How guys? All right, well, let's knock that off.
Starting point is 00:35:15 And China was clear like, this really isn't a deal. They're just like, this is stupid. And Scott Besson was also basically kind of saying a similar thing, although trying to make it feel dealy, basically saying like the two economic powers were just reaffirming that completely decoupling their economies would not be good for literally the entire earth economy somehow. Um, so yeah, I mean, China isn't doing anything to change any of the policies Trump has been yelling about. So this is a very Trumpy deal in that he overplayed his hand, had way too much
Starting point is 00:35:49 dip on his chip that the chip broke. Then he starts putting his fingers in the dip bowl, trying to get it out. And then when someone catches him, he's like, yeah, it's all good. I never wanted anything anyway. Swish, swish, swish. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, I saved it. You have not, you have not.
Starting point is 00:36:04 And if anything, we're still worse off than before you were here. So nothing is objectively better. The level and like depth of ass kissing is really like that. That's been the I can't quite get my mind around it, but it's got to be changing things so drastically inside, like how everything works. Like there's a New Yorker article that was like looking at just like all these people whose careers are just to flatter Trump now in the Washington, D.C.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And I feel like that's just fucking everybody at this point. Like it's just creating, like including the oligarchs. Like everybody is just building this reality where he can claim W's, you know? I wonder if the next president is just gonna be someone who's so well built to kiss ass because that's just the new dynamic that exists in Washington.
Starting point is 00:36:57 But yeah, this is just, everyone is praising it like on Fox and stuff. And then occasionally you get like the China hawks who are like, this, I can't believe he blinked. He blinked again. He blinked again. Cause some people were so horny to watch the economy completely collapse
Starting point is 00:37:15 in like service of like this absolutely inane economic policy. But I think the people with a lot of money won this round. I think cause everyone was yelling at Scott Bessent to do something and I guess helped. But yeah, so I mean, again, the trouble is, we're all gonna still see higher prices and many companies have already been preemptively warning
Starting point is 00:37:35 their customers that like, higher prices are on the way due to tariffs. And so this may call markets, you know, the markets for a few days or weeks, but regular people are still at the mercy of corporate greed who will be using tariffs as like a fig leaf. Apple is still considering whether to raise prices
Starting point is 00:37:56 on iPhones, just they're like, I don't know, like now you just smuggled a bunch in. We already made the fucking charts. So like, well, we might as well just like keep the prices there. Nothing bad is going to happen to us. That's like the thing all the companies are talking about right now in turn. It's like, you think we can get away from putting another five or seven percent? Yeah, anytime they have an excuse, they just raise the fucking price.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah, any like news story that they can get behind and be like, well, obviously it was the pandemic and it was the war in Ukraine because wars have never happened before. And, you know, now it's going to be the tariffs is going to be their excuse to raise prices, even if they economically don't need to. And they will not. No one will actually point a finger at Trump. If anything, they'll they'll kiss his ass and cover
Starting point is 00:38:46 for him when people are like, what the fuck is going on? They're like, sorry, we here at Walmart believe it's the immigrants that is actually raising prices on you. Yeah, it's it is interesting about like who's going to like what there's got to be some good reporting coming about like what exactly is going on in the court
Starting point is 00:39:06 The royal court of the Trump administration Oh, yeah like to your point about like if the person who takes power next because it's not gonna be a Democrat it's gonna be just Whoever Trump decides to let be the next Republican candidate You know cruise Jeff. Have you seen the death of Stalin? No, but I know. Yeah, yeah, no. Yeah. So it's like a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Stalin's like royal court and like the Steve Buscemi plays Nikita Khrushchev, who was like one of the inner circle for Stalin. And he's both really like good at kissing ass. And then like, Stalin used to just like make everybody around him get like shit faced like for his amusement like drink until they threw up and Khrushchev would like come home at the end of the drink.
Starting point is 00:39:52 I mean in the movie I don't know how historically accurate it is but like he would come home and like tell his wife everything that happened so he didn't forget it and like they would like write down notes so they were just like the best at like playing this weird game
Starting point is 00:40:05 Like essentially a drinking game staying on top of your shit and like you'd be like, okay So then he said this and like not sure exactly why he was going in that direction, you know, but it's all just Stupid fucking maneuvering for the pleasure of the Emperor is basically what? What the future of this country and like who's in power and like what happens comes down to. Look at him and look, and then he got to take over. Yeah, that's right. And then, yeah, so Khrushchev then eventually becomes
Starting point is 00:40:37 the leader of Russia during the Cold War, big chunk of the Cold War. Oh, you love to see it. All right, yeah, so I wanted to talk about this New York Times article that is about a small town called like cul-de-sac Tempe, I think, or Tempe cul-de-sac. It's like a small town outside of Phoenix that is specifically planned to be car free. And they got a bypass from the city to not have to like provide X number of parking spots per resident, which we've covered before, like in trying to build out like cities that
Starting point is 00:41:13 aren't just designed for cars. That's like a big thing that comes up is like minimum parking requirements is like what they have to deal with. They got a bypass to like build this small town. And it's just there's no parking. There's some like wide pathways that you can that emergency vehicles can drive down. But for the most part, the whole city is like designed for pedestrians, like with humans in mind like Europe. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:43 When you look at how the buildings are all oriented, you're like, oh, this feels very European where everything is just kind of all very centrally located and a vertical modeled on towns in Italy and Greece built long before the advent of cars. Koldisak Tempe is what its developers call the country's first neighborhood purposely built to be car free and, you know, good for the climate, but also like good for people's health, good for people's happiness. Um, it, it is kind of funny that they, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:13 and that they say that like it can drive low cost of living, low cost of government. Um, it's funny that the New York times is treating this like a revelation when they, like New York is a massive example of this, where like a place where people happily live without cars because there's public transit, and like they pay a massive premium to live in a place like that,
Starting point is 00:42:37 where you just like are on top of each other. And that's like, I've always thought that like, this also has something to do with, you know, we've talked about post-apocalyptic movies, like, being a fantasy of like, people not having cars anymore, where you just, uh, everybody's walking and everybody's like, living in small communities right on top of each other. Um, or, you know, I think a lot of people like th there's a tweet that I remember seeing, but that is along the same lines of people who think they loved college and don't realize it's because it's the only
Starting point is 00:43:10 time that they were in a walkable environment where you don't need a car. People who live on college campuses. It's also why people join cults or become Disney adults. We like to be in these little places where you can just like walk down the middle of the street. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crew ships. I have the same feeling about cruise ships. When I'm like, as a kid, I like was obsessed with them. And then I went a couple times as an adult, like in my twenties and early thirties. And I always remember it was like, oh, it's because I can walk fucking everywhere. Yeah. Like, yeah, I think that's what Americans,
Starting point is 00:43:46 whenever they go somewhere where they can do that, like a broad. Yeah, like old cities built before cars. Oh my God, I love this place. It's so charming. It's so novel. I don't know what it's about. Yeah. There's even that part in, I'm adding Shawshank to this, because I,
Starting point is 00:44:01 so one of the things that they talk about is like they have, there's a 24 year old woman who is living there on her own for the first time. She's been able to live without assistance of family and friends because she's blind and she's able to, because she's like, I don't know. And in order to like have a good time, I don't have to cross the street. It's just, wow. Right. Yeah. Yeah. That's not something I have to think about, right? Yeah. That's not something I have to think about. Right. Yeah. It's not something you have to think about it. Like reminds me like that.
Starting point is 00:44:28 That is the one of the parts of Shawshank that sticks with me, which the reason I'm like emphasizing Shawshank is like one of the most popular movie, like people like rate it so highly. And it was just like massively popular in the nineties, but it has this like small community, obviously living like together and it's like, there are horrifying aspects of it, but I think there it's also a fantasy of living in a community without cars.
Starting point is 00:44:54 And when like the guy gets out, he like immediately almost gets hit by a car. And like, you're like, Jesus, yeah. He's like everybody went and got into a big damn hurry. And I do think like that part hit so hard and that movie hit so hard because again, just as the children long for the minds, I think, I think the people long for, you know, small communities where you don't, where you could just like let your kids run and not worry about them getting
Starting point is 00:45:21 hit by a car or like you don't have to get in a car and like feel like you're in Mad Max all of a sudden to just like go to the grocery store, you know? Right. It is so different when, especially when you go abroad and you realize energetically how different people are when they think about their kids going out and having like doing shit out in the world. Yeah. Because like in Europe, like places that stuff like central squares,
Starting point is 00:45:46 like you'll go, it'll be like nine at night. There's a bunch of kids like running around just having a good time. And yeah, their parents, like it's because they all probably live around the fucking corner. And this is built so differently. And I don't have all my fear of like
Starting point is 00:45:59 gun violence and whatever the fuck going on. That is it safe for these? Oh, yeah. But the like, is it safe for these? Huh? Yeah. Yeah. Let the kids. Brian the editor saying that kids are out at midnight in Mexico City. Like, yeah. That's.
Starting point is 00:46:11 Yeah, when I was in Italy, man, the kids are out so late that I was like, bro, these kids are fucking cooler than me and they're. Right. Smoking cigarettes and shit. Smoking cigarettes in second grade. Like, I don't know such as life, you know. But yeah, the article says not having to factor in residential parking
Starting point is 00:46:33 allowed its architects to configure buildings to maximize shade and to design narrow pathways that encourage breezes and social engagement. The pedestrian is really the primary person. The figure that you're developing for, said Alexander von Deling, the lead architect on the project, big expanses of glass were askewed awnings added over sun facing windows and native plants and trees put in for cooling shade. It, but just like the idea. And this, this is like the,
Starting point is 00:46:57 this kept popping into my head during like when New York was doing the congestion pricing and everyone was like kind of freaking out and being like, they can't take our cars away. But it's like just it's so abnormal for anybody to do an idea that is designed for people and not cars. Yeah, yeah. Businesses. It's like that. That is a radical thing. And it seems like if you just ask somebody to come in fresh and be like, so how should we like design these communities that we live in?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Like it would take them so long to get to the bad idea of like, well, you need to design everything for cars and businesses. Like obviously the obvious idea is like just design it for people to like live close to each other. It feels like maybe we're like in this new era because we've gone so astray from recognizing people's needs that with this one neat trick Like you know the size trick the pedestrian companies don't want you to know about Do this is the greatest place to live ever like everyone's now moving to these car free places. Yeah Yeah, wow. Well, I remember seeing when this thing was first like an idea and
Starting point is 00:48:02 Before it got built and it's interesting to see now that it's like sort of pretty much in full swing now that like, at least from like this article and another one I saw on dwell, like it seems people are enjoying it. Yeah, one of the people who like moved there not intending to like get away from cars, they had to, they were like, yeah, I guess, I mean, the rent is good and like, it'd be a good place to like,
Starting point is 00:48:24 kind of start our family. And they like had to give their car away and they had to like weigh that when they were deciding, it just, they're like, yeah, I mean, it's a community. Like you can like literally like borrow a cup of sugar from your neighbors. Like you see your neighbors all the time. When their daughter was born, three different families brought a meal or dropped off cookies or offered to go buy them groceries.
Starting point is 00:48:50 It's just feels. It's like we have to like build Disneyland's for getting back into some sense of community. But like I think that's what Disneyland is, is like we're longing for this. I'm saying that like this is a, I mean like a purpose built thing for us to reignite our sense of community. It's like, we were unable to do it. And I mean, people are able to do it, but because
Starting point is 00:49:13 of the sprawl and things are sort of our hard wiring is like, I don't know, man, we're all just disparate siloed off, we're not connected. And then you're like, oh, this place it's built for me to remind myself that community is like a thing that we yearn connected. And then you're like, oh, this place it's built for me to remind myself that community is like a thing that we yearn for, perfect. But why would a place where people live be built for people? I don't understand that, that's crazy. Sounds crazy to me, Miles. I do just have to, first of all, I'm gonna shout out,
Starting point is 00:49:38 great article from the New York Times, Kara Buckley, shout out to Kara for reporting it. I do, uh, have to read the part I was talking about earlier. And Mr. Erfurt of strong towns said cul-de-sac Tempe could pave the way as it were for similar car free developments. You just didn't need that as it were. You just cut that as it were.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I feel, I feel like maybe the editors at the New York, I'm going to blame the editors at the New York Times and not the author. Because was that Kara Buckley said? Is the name of the journalist? Yeah, that wasn't on Kara. That was the editor as it were. But not intended. That's exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:17 Now that you're saying it, it's so smug. It's so annoying. I fucking don't. It it sounds like some asshole reading the New York Times that I hate. Yeah. Like that they would that it would almost be like that as it was and there's like paved the way and they would lower the paper and look at their like partner and go as it were and then lift the paper back and keep reading it and like,
Starting point is 00:50:39 shut the fuck up. Just read about these Carla cities and how we need them. That's right. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and cover some of the other things that are happening. We'll be right back. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, host of the podcast, Are You a Charlotte? What we have all been waiting for. Sarah Jessica Parker is here and she is sharing stories from the very beginning, like the time she forgot we filmed the pilot episode.
Starting point is 00:51:10 I remember some things about shooting the pilot. Right. I have some memories I can fill you in. And that you're going to fill me in. Yes. But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up. And she reveals what she thought when she read the script
Starting point is 00:51:24 for Sex and the City the very first time. He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way, which I found really interesting. And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big? She had inexplicable feelings. Got it. It is a human being that can't explain to her friends why somebody that might be beneath her as is dictating the hunt. You can't miss this. Listen to Are You a Charlotte?
Starting point is 00:51:48 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I live with my boyfriend, and I found his pizjar in our apartment. I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone
Starting point is 00:52:46 else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here. I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together, go for it.
Starting point is 00:53:13 She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50 Connie? How long have you guys been together? Yeah, no, 52. 52. I adopted my son as a single mom, because I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy. I'm going to meet the guy.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. I want to change the narrative about single parents and also help to create a community for single parents so that they can not feel alone in it. One of the big things is it's so hard especially for women to ask for help.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wished for a change but weren't sure how to make it? Maybe you felt stuck in a job or a place or a relationship? Join me, Emily Tish-Sussman, over on She Pivots, where I explore the inspiring pivots of women, dig deeper into the personal reasons behind them, and leave you with the inspiration you need to make your next pivot. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth. And I'm Caitlin Murray. Both women pivoted out of their careers
Starting point is 00:54:28 after having their kids, proving that motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. It's like, it's kind of like, will you have more babies? Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Because I was really in the trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom. Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And Trump just did something that, you know, a less up and up, less trustworthy president might seem a little suspicious. He just did something that seems like, you know, if he weren't totally on the up and up, which he totally is, you know, like, you know, he's just it's just a gift. The plane is a normal gift.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Just a gift. It's a normal plane. He so he got a lot of money from like the tech world. And the U.S. copyright office just released the third part of a report that has some questions about how AI just takes copyrighted work and like doesn't... That's fair use. It's with the AI companies. Is it?
Starting point is 00:55:54 No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:02 yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah work that no, the jibberjacks artists who are not paid that well to begin with. No, no, no. The Ghibli stuff. We told Chad GPT to go to animation school in fucking knuckle down. That's right. And don't come back till you can do flawless recreations of Miyazaki style
Starting point is 00:56:18 animation. Okay. So, uh, one of among many, uh, government departments that Trump seems to be trying to overthrow, he fired the head of the US Copyright Office after that report came out. Perhaps not coincidentally, this happened right after she issued part three of a lengthy report about AI, which, as we said, expressed some concerns and questions about the usage of copyrighted material by AI technology. Um, the draft notes that generative AI systems drawn massive troves of data,
Starting point is 00:56:50 including copyrighted works and asks, do any of the acts involved require the copyright owners consent or compensation? No. It also like asks, like, do we, do we need this shit at all? Just like, why, what, why? What good is this other than removing, like truly the only business purpose of this is removing the need to pay the artist. Like that's it, because otherwise you just pay them
Starting point is 00:57:19 to do the thing that you're asking them to do. Now I get so hostile when I see people putting like clearly AI generated posters or just stuff to promote their work or like a deck that has like clearly made by AI. Like, I don't know why my instant reaction is like, what the fuck are you thinking? Just fucking the fuck. The fuck is this slippery fucking slope and now we're not paying fucking orders. So making generative AI more vulnerable
Starting point is 00:57:48 to copyright lawsuits, you know, due to all the copyrighted material that it actually like directly steals from, would get in the way of his plan to pay back all the tech companies that bankrolled his campaign, which has already resulted in $500 billion of investment in an AI infrastructure project called Stargate.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Well, why don't you walk through the Stargate and stay there? That's right. And don't come back and don't bring back whatever the fuck's on the other side of that thing over here. Well, so Stargate, did you watch Stargate? I saw that in theaters when I was a kid. Stargate SG1, the TV show? Is that what you're referencing?
Starting point is 00:58:27 No, yeah, yeah. I organized a viewing of the TV show. No, the Kurt Russell movie. And I don't think I ever got my head around, like is it a parallel dimension that it's going back to, or was it time traveling to actual ancient Egypt, and it's like the premise that like, Egyptians couldn't have built that shit by themselves. It had to be aliens.
Starting point is 00:58:46 It was definitely, uh, Egypt, Egypt coded, but they were considered like intergalactic. Okay. Yeah. It was a wormhole. So it was like dimensional time travel. Yeah, exactly. Dimensional travel, not time travel. If you had a star gate, I had a star gate. We could star gate. That's right. You know, Hey, hit me up on my Stargate later. And I'll bring my Stargate and we could be Stargate. But for they by creating the TV show after the fact that had the guy from MacGyver in the Kurt Russell role, I have completely replaced Kurt Russell in the movie,
Starting point is 00:59:23 in my memory of the movie with MacGyver. So just because they both have the same kind of blonde, dirty blonde mullet. But anyways, that's what they named their AI moonshot project after a $500 billion so that, you know, they can. This comes at a time too where a lot of people are questioning if chat GPT got worse.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It did. Yeah, I know, but I'm saying. They dropped part four and it was worse. They're like, and then everyone's like, what's this shit? Like how far, this is like worse than like three iterations or two iterations ago. Imagine if they dropped an iPhone and then had to pull it off of the market because it
Starting point is 01:00:06 was worse than the previous iPhone. iPhone 17. Never mind. Y'all, were y'all fucking with the Apple 5? Apple iPhone 5? Right. What? What about everything in between?
Starting point is 01:00:17 That's essentially what they did. This thing, as we talked about last week, they dropped it. So this is a technology that the whole claim is that it's going to be advancing so, so fast. Like we can't keep up and like, it's scary how fast it's going to be advancing and they dropped their latest version and it was worse than the previous version and they admitted it and took it off. Like they took it back. They were like our bad. Um, that, so yeah, that, that would be my,
Starting point is 01:00:42 They're like our bad. So, yeah, that that would be my he made it. That would be my clue that things might not be as they're suggesting. They are that open. And of course, the company that has the most much dumping buckets of money and energy into this shit. Yeah, I mean, they're they're trying to get every last dime they can before the fucking like Indiana Jones trying to snatch his hat before the gate shuts on
Starting point is 01:01:10 him. He's like, that last bit of money. Bye. You'll never see me again on the plus side, firing the head of copyright office. I think means we just get a full, you know, fair use purge where we can just like show Mickey Mouse doing whatever we want. We're back to playing full songs on the ride out at the end of the show. That's right. By the most litigious artists. Yep. We're going to be playing Eminem on a loop.
Starting point is 01:01:36 That's right. Yeah. Eminem, I guess, is more litigious. Wasn't that weren't they like, when we played a mom's spaghetti remix. Oh, that's right. What is this? They're like, it's a fucking, all the lyrics are mom's spaghetti. Yeah, well they don't listen, they just have AI that's combing the internet.
Starting point is 01:01:55 And see, so don't say, don't act like AI hasn't done anything for us. Yeah, only AI we fuck with, his last name is Iverson. That's right. Okay. All right, and finally, you know, we talked last week, the Pope is American, big news.
Starting point is 01:02:10 He's from Chicago. Huge news. People, the two baseball teams of Chicago got into it over the weekend trying to claim him because the Cubs claimed him first as their, you know. Really? Yeah, their pontiff. Did they?
Starting point is 01:02:26 And with what, what did they, what did they base that off of? There was a ABC report that claimed he was a Cubs fan. Well, you're fired because it turns out that, you know, further reporting his brother, John Prevost, said he was never ever a Cubs fan and was really a White Sox fan. And that led to the team, the White Sox, posting their own, you know, post about the Pope's
Starting point is 01:02:58 fandom. And then people like started scouring the internet. They found photos of the Pope at the 2005 World Series. Yeah. He's like in the background of this one picture just on a cell phone. Back in 2005, this guy was making moves. What was it? Who was he on the phone with? That's a great question.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Was he moving weight? I have to assume God, right? He looks like he's moving weight. I don't know why, but he's just like, yeah. He's smiling, looking off in the middle distance on a Nokia, you know. Oof. And then he was shown on camera during the game, which I love. Look what we can do as an as a national internet. How the fuck did someone find that?
Starting point is 01:03:39 I know that's impressive. Did somebody have that on like in a binder already, ready to go or was someone like, now I'm gonna comb through every Cubs broadcast game to see if I can catch the now Pope? They end that in the commentary team is like, look at that guy, that guy looks like that guy could be the Pope one day.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Yeah, yeah. All right, young man, keep your head down. We're rooting for you, Pope. Let's just call him Leo the 14th, maybe, I don't know. We'll see, we'll see where this goes. I just love though too that like, because you know, for, there's such a divide between Cubs fans and White Sox fans
Starting point is 01:04:14 and a lot of people just presume that the default Chicagoan is a Cubs fan. But a lot of it's like geography, class and all these other things, race can play into it. Cause like my family from Chicago, all White Sox fans. whites are not cubs fans. They are not cubs fans And it's just interesting that like I wonder if that ABC person's like yeah, he's proud. He loves baseball He's from Chicago. He's a cubs fan and then the brother goes he was never he was never a cubs So yeah, that's like never in a white. So it was don't you ever fucking besmirch the Pope's name like that.
Starting point is 01:04:45 Unbelievable. He so by the way, so he was at the 2005 World Series, which the White Sox won because the Pope presumably enlisted angels to sabotage the other team. I like Danny Glover in the in the stands. Yeah. Yeah. Wapping his arms. That's what they should have gotten footage
Starting point is 01:05:06 of them doing, doing the angel wing flap from angels in the outfield. I use AI doctor and image where he's calling the angels to fucking do that or someone get a real actor to portray him. But yeah. But some people are claiming that the Cubs, since the Cubs falsely claimed he's a Cubs fan, they then lost on Friday, which... Fucking lie on the panel like that.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Yeah, man. What are you doing? They then won the next day. I will also say, if we're going with the theory that he's intervening on behalf of the White Sox, the White Sox were... So far this season, they're 12 and 29. They're coming off one of the worst seasons in the history of Major League Baseball or the Papacy.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Almost the worst baseball season of all time. They were in the running. I'm not a baseball fan, and the only things I knew about last season were show. Hey, Otani is good and the White Sox are historically like, like they would open sports center with clips of them fucking up. Like that's how bad they were. They're like, the White Sox are at it again.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Look at, look at this masterful fuck up, which only suggests that the pope took his eye off the ball for too long and he was busy controlling things with his mind so he could become pope. But now that he has a direct line to God, you know, you gotta think now that he's secured that with whatever he was doing last year, you know, maybe he had to, you know, prom like allow a bad white sock season so he should, could get repaid. Uh, the, you know, I don't know about the exact dealings that got him to be the Pope.
Starting point is 01:06:54 69 game win streak loaded. They are two and two since he was named. So you don't want it to be too obvious, right? Yeah, you don't want to tip him off that Christ is meddling. That's why he wasn't back there doing the angels wings in the health field. He's, you know, he's got to keep up the humility thing.
Starting point is 01:07:18 His biggest conflict as Pope, he's like, do I advocate for gay people or do I use my powers to get another world series where you're the first time maybe. I mean, if the socks win it this year, that's uh, like that, that would change. I will, I will go to, I will stop making these. Okay. Nah, I'm not gonna do all that.
Starting point is 01:07:42 Anyways, can't win them all. And then it would, it would ruin the narrative arc, you know. So I think this year White Sox have a respectable they finish around 500. Yeah, it's like a manager takes over and like, oh, wow, next season. Leo, the 14th that you can crank it up a little bit, bro. That's right. I'm going to get mad at you. We all want to see. We all want to believe. If I was Pope, I would, my fandom would poison my papacy. I would just know that. I would
Starting point is 01:08:12 just go to all the games. They'd be like, this guy doesn't even fucking go, he's not even the Vatican. He's always at like Laker games or Arsenal matches. It's like, when the camera, when the like, Jumbo Tron shows him, he's like doing the, holding a finger up and chugging a beer thing. Yeah. Like, Oh, Oh,
Starting point is 01:08:30 Clean, not one thing spilled, keeping my garments, Tits it open so you know. Yeah, like this over my head, not a drop. Yeah. Oh my God, he could have, I can do my own miracle about, uh, making alcohol turn into something. Exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:44 I'm gonna turn this beer into piss brother i'm too sexy for this beer wearing a full pope hat at the game oh shit all right uh those are some of the things that are trending on this monday may 12th we are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves. Get your vaccines while you still can. Get your flu shots while you still can. Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
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