The Daily Zeitgeist - Top 10 of 2024: #8 Sleeping In Socks = Jailable Offense 01.05.23

Episode Date: December 25, 2024

We are counting down the top 10 episodes of 2024, as voted by our listeners. Up next, #8: Sleeping In Socks = Jailable Offense 01.05.23 In episode 1602, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by co-host of The Bechdel Cast, Caitlin Durante, to discuss… Mickey Mouse Hits the Public Domain... Kind Of, There’s a Controversy Brewing: Socks or No Socks In Bed and more! Mickey Mouse Hits the Public Domain... Kind Of Mickey Mouse will be public domain soon—here’s what that means Welcome to the public domain, Mickey Mouse Mickey’s Public Domain Status Sparks MICKEY Crypto Surge Trailer for Mickey Mouse Slasher Film Drops on Same Day ‘Steamboat Willie’ Character Enters Public Domain ‘Steamboat Willie’ Horror Film Announced as Mickey Mouse Enters Public Domain Mickey Mouse-Inspired Horror Game 'Infestation 88' Announced The Mickey Mouse Public Domain Horror Games And Movies Want You To Roast Them Director of Mickey Mouse slasher film fully expects you to hate-watch it Mickey’s Copyright Adventure: Early Disney Creation Will Soon Be Public Property Mickey, Disney, and the Public Domain: a 95-year Love Triangle Did Disney Demand the Removal of Cartoon Murals from Daycare Center Walls? A Rare 1968 Anti-War Short "Mickey Mouse In Vietnam" Has Resurfaced Online There’s a Controversy Brewing: Socks or No Socks In Bed LISTEN: One Love (Nujabes Remix) by NasSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, we used a little something called democracy. Ever heard of it? Depending on when you listen to this episode, that might not be such a rhetorical question. But anyways, we let you vote on the most listened to episodes of the year to see what you liked best. And you're about to hear your answers. Just 10 bangers right in a row.

Got a trending episode in the mix. We got a lot of good ones. And at number one, well, let's just say you'll find out. Especially if this is the number one episode. We're putting this same bumper at the start of all 10. So we hope you enjoy it. We hope you enjoyed listening to this year of TDZ as much as we enjoyed making it. And we will see you all in 2025. We hope you have a restful holiday. Hello the internet and welcome to season 320 episode four of Der Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and it

is Friday January 5th, 2024? That's too many. Come on. No, that's way too many numbers. That's like buffer overflow error number of years. Right. If we were on like a four bit machine, we'd be done. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA.

So gang time. Sex is not allowed, but check out this loophole I just read. So gang time. But check out this loophole I just read soaking time Put the P in the V and have all the homies jump on the bed soaking time Might seem strange, but you'll still get a planet when you are dead. I know how to Abstain and still bone that is courtesy of Rezik a throwback

I think Rezik sensed my displeasure that we are in the year 2024 and gave me an aka from a subject we talked about I think back in the late 80s a little long time ago I love you I just curious how that came to you Rezek on the Discord. Like you're just like, oh shit. Remember that story they talked about years ago? Anyways, thank you for that. I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, a hilarious and brilliant TV writer, producer. You know him from the yo is this raises podcast. It's Andrew T I just want to take a moment A happy new year to all the sun worshiping freaks in the white community I don't know what you know what you guys got going on, but happy new year, I guess

Sun worshipers. Yeah you freaks Moonlife forever The only true calendar. Well, Andrew, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer, stand-up comedian, podcast host of the Bechdel cast, which takes on the patriarchy one movie at a time, and is just one of the best podcasts in existence.

Also, I happen to have a master's degree in film, the most anagrammable name in the English language, such as nine tit Dracula. But when you read the letters in order, it is, Caitlin Durante! Hello, how are you? Yes. Latin dancer, UTI, yourself.

Latin dancer, UTI. Uh, Caitlin, you were just on. You were on the last episode that we did before the break. And now I'm back, baby. The fuck around episode. What a great time. That was so fun. And now, unfortunately, I regret to inform you,

this is the photographic negative of that episode. This is the all business episode. Just hard news stories, one after the other. Everything from images of Steamboat Willie piloting one of the planes into the Twin Towers, to Steamboat Willie drenched in cum. We're covering it all, folks. All the stories that happened over the break. That's basically it.

We're just going to talk about how Mickey Mouse hit the public domain. Then there's a controversy brewing in the world of socks. Socks are no socks in bed. I've been told this is, I don't know, I wear socks to bed. I'm just going to come out and say it. I've been told that is unacceptable by don't know, I wear socks to bed. I'm just going to come out and say it. And I've been told that is unacceptable by a lot of people. I have a lot of thoughts on this, so I'm really excited.

I knew, like everybody seems to. It's wild. I just, there's like this op-ed in the Wall Street Journal or something. And the headline was like, if you sleep in socks, you're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up controversy. And I was like, wow, that's so aggressive, right? To people and they were all like, nope, it is correct. It is in fact scientifically accurate.

You need to get out of here. Well, not when you do it my way. I have a very particular sock regiment. I hear this. Oh boy. All right. Just jump to hear this. Oh boy. Uh-huh. All right. Just jump to socks.

Jump to socks. If everything else jumped to socks. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I Googled Wolf of Wall Street, Quaalude scene. Yes.

Because yes, yes, we know it. We love it. I am editing this little promo video to plug the Bechtelcast tour that Jamie Loftus and I are going on in early February. So, Zeitgang, who's also a Bechtel head, grab your tickets. But anyway, so I'm like editing this silly little promo video and it's mostly a Barbie tour. We are mostly covering the Barbie movie, but there's one show where we are also doing a

Wolf of Wall Street thing. Because- Interesting. You know what movie famously pairs? The Margot Robbie of it all. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's obviously the thing, but everyone's like, why wouldn't you do Oppenheimer? And I'm like, because I was asleep during most of that movie. I don't want to watch it again.

So we're doing Wolf of Wall Street. So I was just finding little images to include in this. And I was like, ooh, that Quaalude scene's pretty good. So I Googled that. I couldn't help but notice that Quaalude scenes pretty good. Yeah. Google that. I couldn't help but notice that Oppenheimer

barely does any Quaaludes in that movie. I would say even zero. It's not even like referenced like when he does. I mean, I can't imagine he did zero Quaaludes during the events of the film. Show that on screen. Where's the on screen representation? Show, don't tell.

Quail lutes. Quail lutes really fell. Like that's the only substance, legal or otherwise, that just like completely. Can you get quail lutes anymore? You can get a lot of shit that is illegal even. You can't get quail lutes. Where did the quail lutes go? I wanted to try lutes once. You tried them? No, I want to oh, yeah

Yeah, I just said I mean that is the premise of the scene in wolf Wall Street, right that they are like They're like old so they don't know how effective they're gonna be These are busted Very much the experience that anybody who's taken too many edibles has had in recent years. But yeah, that's the idea. I feel like they give a passing explanation about where the quailudes went, but it was something like that.

I think they were made pharmaceutically at one point, and then they made them illegal. But it does seem like there's probably, you know, as drugs become more advanced, there should be a market there. At minimum, an artisanal market for, come on, you want to at least try it. You gotta try. Yeah.

Ludes. Ludes, baby. And Hells Angels are back as a try. Yeah. Ludes. Ludes, baby. And Hells Angels are back as a vibe. Yeah. I mean, the Hells Angels mainly use them to counterbalance all the speed that they were on. Enormous amount of their like, well, someone's going to have to fall asleep eventually. Why don't we figure out something to counterbalance all this trucker speed that we've been eating

and distributing. I'm not against any that we've been eating and distributing. I'm not against any of this. I don't think. Wait, what is speed? Is speed coke? Are they the same thing? Are they two different? No, it's amphetamines.

They're pretty similar, but they're different. Oh, they're speedy. Very similar. Yeah, yeah. Like meth. Speed is breaking bad. Speed is, yes. Speed is breaking bad.

Cocaine is, I assume, Wolf of Wall Street. Yeah. Oh yeah. What is something that you think is overrated? Okay. So we're getting into horny territory in these next few. Yeah. Uh-oh, folks.

It's the first week of 2024. I'm trying to set a precedent. Of course we're going to be horny. My God. I mean, this isn't particularly horny, but these are about dating. I've been giving a lot of thought to dating. So the opposite of horny is what you're saying. Not when you date like me.

I have a very specific sock regiment and I have a very specific dating regiment and it's all horny. Okay. Overrated is height as a dating criteria, I'm talking specifically about men. Because, so if you go, if you're on the apps, there is, there are a lot of men who just put their height as the only thing in their profile because they've been conditioned to think that that's's the most important thing about them. This is enough, right? How high the cells in my body stack up to. That's enough about me.

Yeah, that's my personality in its entirety. So it's very frustrating. And I know that they're doing this because of a societal pressure, a beauty standard, blah, blah, blah. But I find it very frustrating not only that that beauty standard has blah, blah, blah. But I find it very frustrating. Not only that that beauty standard has become so prominent, but that men are responding to it by being like, well, you don't need to know anything about me aside from my height. I also feel like somebody who puts that much emphasis on their own height is probably more likely to lie about their height, right? Like have weird height issues going on.

Yeah, for sure. But isn't it kind of, it feels like what you're saying though, it's, it's, it is like a self-regulating system, right? Cause like people who put that, actually that is the only thing that is interesting about them. I mean, that's true. They're kind of perpetuating this cycle. Yeah.

So, but I don't know. I just feel like you don't, you don't want it. And you don't want to click on those people and swipe on those folks. And you know that it's doing its job both ways. If someone only loves height and if someone recognizes that that's idiotic, I don't know. I'm about it. Unless it's like... Fair.

They're Wembingyama. Are they Victor Wembingyama? Are they seven foot four and a half? I don't know who that is. Oh. And it is like the main thing about them that you would have to deal with on a dating basis is like, this, we can't go most places. I'm way too fucking tall.

I won't fit through the doorway. I can't sit in a normal car. Yes, that would make sense. But it's just people who are like, I'm 5'11", or whatever. I, the problem is- That's why they're like, I am the average height and that's all you need to know about me. And that's all you need to know. And Andrew, you're right. Like this, like, this should be like a weeding out process, except that I would

say in like 80% of profiles. And like, yes, I'm like swiping left on like 99.9% of people. But like, it's just so prevalent for men to have just their height or like one of three things they list about themselves is their height. And I think it stinks. Will not stand for it. Yeah. Won't.

That's terrible that people do that. Do they hold a coin next to them for like the- Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they have just a tiny little quarter on the ground next to them. And they're like, I'm so much taller than this. Yeah. Which then does open up a market for fake, not to scale, like measuring tapes or yardsticks

or whatever that you hold up next to yourself in your dating profile. Yes. Oh man. Yeah, the tolinator. Let's get on this. That's right. Yeah.

This is as an enterprise if I've ever heard of it. Justin, you're going to have to cut out the next 30 minutes while we scheme this business plan and we're back and we're about to be rich as fuck, you guys. Wow. What is something you think is underrated, Caitlin? Okay. So what I think is underrated is being solo poly. So if anyone's not familiar, it's a type of polyamory

or ethical non-monogamy where you're just kind of single. Your main relationship is with yourself, but you also have so many lovers. That's great. It's the best of all the worlds. So many lovers. And it's something I've been exploring in recent years, and I've never been happier, I would say. Definitely sounds like the best one.

Yeah, I think so. It definitely sounds like a lot of fun. Yeah. I thought you were saying solo poly, like that, that was like negative Nellie solo poly. Oh, not solo poly pocket. Okay. Yeah. Solo polyamory.

Yeah. What? They, they would, they sound like they might be contradictory because it's like, how can you have many lovers but also be solo? But we make it work. And when you become solo, Polly, does that give you the magical power that you now possess to use lover in a way that doesn't make me cringe? Because you're, yeah, you can, you can do it now.

There, there's, I've met like a handful of people who can be like, I've taken a lover and I'm just like, yeah, that's, that's how you talk. And that is how you should talk. There's a great line to that effect in the movie, American fiction, which I will also sing the praises of later on as a piece of media I've been enjoying, but there's a great line where Jeffrey Wright's character is like, oh, I'm so grossed out by the fact that you've just told me you've taken a lover. But when you're solo poly, you get to say it and it's not gross.

You can say it, yeah. I also like to say that I have a harem of himbo's. There you go. That's pretty accurate to my life. Do they know they're himbo? In rooms. I don't think they know that I call them that. Okay.

I think that they... They think it's just their little secret, and they always do. Yeah. I will say the over or underratedness of this, this feels like a solo poly is a thing where the rating system depends on your original perspective so highly. Because I can't help but notice that Jack was like, that sounds great. Sounds pretty good. Right?

I was like, yeah, I think Jack's rating, it's not underrated for him because it comes by highly rated. I guess I put it in the underrated class. I almost said classagory. And that's the thing now. As a solo pilot, you speak with such confidence that classagory is now a thing. Thank you. Thank you.

So classification slash category slash classagory. I put it there because, I mean, most people, you know, follow like a pretty traditional like, you know, just monogamy. I have one partner, I have one person, that's what they're seeking, that's what they have, you know, whatever. But I've been sort of just examining that as a structure, as an expectation in society. And I was like, you know what, I don't think that is for me. And just like, I mean, relationship anarchy in general is something I've been exploring. And I'm just like, yeah, this is cool. Not enough not enough people know about it or are doing it. Yeah.

And obviously, like, a very important thing about it is to, like, be very upfront with people. Be very open and upfront. So I was gonna say, there are plenty of fuckboys in the world who are like, this is actually secretly what I do, but nobody needs to know about it. Instead, I pretend I love everyone deeply and we are soulmates.

Right. Amazing. This just in classic or he has been shortlisted for the 2024 Word of the Year, Merriam-Webster dictionary. I didn't even make it up? No, you did. That's how quickly it became. You did.

It was shortlisted. Now shortlisted. Now shortlisted. Awesome. Amazing. Well, we are going to take a quick break and then we're going to come back and talk about drawings of Mickey Mouse doing 9-11. We'll be right back.

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like I've seen all the ones. So basically, SB Dubs, as we've all started calling Steamboat Willie, who is the unmistakable ancestor of Mickey Mouse and descendant of minstrel cartoons. But that's for another time. But you can look at the similarities. There's a lot.

But yeah, Steamboat Willie has hit the big public domain in the sky, freeing the internet to do its best slash worst and, you know, doing 9-11 and being covered in cum were like, that was like, I bet that's what the internet's going to do. And they did that. There's also some where he has his dick out also to be expected. But I don't know. Like, so first of all, this is like, people will be quick to point out

Steamboat Willie has some differences from modern Mickey. They redesigned Mickey Mouse for 1940s Sorcerer's Apprentice. So we're going to like have to wait another, I don't know. We actually signed Mickey Mouse for 1940s Sorcerer's Apprentice. So we're going to have to wait another, I was going to say like 20 years, but no, that's actually less than that. Like 10 years for actual modern Mickey Mouse to be covered in cum. I mean, will the world make it that long? We'll see. That is the question. Well, to be covered and come not as parody. Right. Exactly. Yes. Exactly.

Yeah. I mean, people were already free to do this. It's just a celebration of like, now it's legal. Yeah. So if you want to know the difference between Steamboat Willie and Mickey Mouse, Mickey Mouse has big Mouse has like big, big eyes with like black pupils, you know, like the standard Disney like big eyed like kind of thing that's based on babies. Like they were like, oh, babies have big eyes and that appeals to something inherent in humans. Like we are genetically designed to not want to kill babies. And so, like, we like them with the big eyes. Whereas Steamboat Willie, to quote Quint's speech in Jaws,

has got lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a doll's eyes. When he comes at you, he doesn't seem to be living until he bites you. And those black eyes roll over white. Yeah. I don't think I've said this story here. Maybe I've never said it at all, but the maddest I ever got when I was writing on Robot Chicken is I pitched a sketch that made it pretty far.

That was about Funko Pops where every time you turn back, it was like a haunted house deal, and every time they turn back to the Funko Pop, its eyes would be like beady black eye would be 10% bigger until it eventually swallowed the screen. And they didn't let me do the sketch and I'm so mad about it still. Oh man.

Tisque, tisque. That's great. But yeah, so this is the first big character to hit the public domain in a while, which I hadn't realized, but Sonny Bono, apparently. Sonny Bono or Bono? Bono, right? Bono. Oh yeah, because Bono is the U2 guy.

Yeah. Bono is the Sonny guy. Yeah, as the famous rhyme says. I only know him from the Beavis and Butthead version of I Got You, Babe with Cher. Right. Yeah. That's the main thing he's known for other than dying in a ski accident. He was like TV guy and then became politician guy. In 1999, he's passed a law suspending things from hitting the public domain for 20 years for reasons having to do with corporations and rich people enjoying money.

Whatever the justification at the time was, that seems to be that they were lobbied by Disney and George Gershwin's estate. And there's just, everyone was basically like, politics in the nineties really got away with a ton of shit because like, they just had the world or at least like the mainstream media convinced that anywhere, anyone making money was good for the country because quote the economy, like why not keep it private so people can continue to make money for Disney and the wealthy who can invest it back into Wall Street? And Wall Street is scoreboard for economy.

OK, so they... What could possibly go wrong? Yeah. Thankfully, that's all changed now, so... It's no different. Yeah. We just have social media to, like, point it out. It's not true.

Yeah. So wait, they were trying, they were lobbying to make it so, to like delay things going into, into the public domain by 20 years so it could stay private. So they could keep profiting off of it. Just a little longer. Okay. Oh, neat. Yeah. Hey, that's the thing that is so funny is to imagine them being like, for some kind of vague moral

or economic reason, this must happen. And then just in the finding the line of 20 years, if this is important, why not forever? Or what? Just somehow they were like, 20, 20 is good, 20 is good. We'll be rich enough. That will never come. Yeah. We'll just be incredibly rich by that time. There have been NFTs,

because people are still falling for that, apparently, Mickey Mouse cryptocurrencies. Those are somehow different. A glut of AI-generated images featuring the old Mickey doing drugs or slathered in semen. Quaaludes. As previously mentioned. Mm-hmm. Yeah, quaaludes might be interesting.

I'm sure the kids don't know, though, you know? That's true. Kids these days don't know about that. I wonder if the copyright on the name, on the presumably brand name, Quaalude, is probably still in effect, whereas Mickey is. You'll get sued by like, Pfizer or whoever still holds that patent. Was Quaalude the name brand or the street name for that drug? I'm curious. Like, was that the Kleenex?

It has to be. Let me look it up. It's also spelled very strangely, which makes me think that it is. Yeah, it's not the chemical name. And it's not like some shit that you just come up with. So the chemical name is methacolone. Oh, yeah. Pretty close. It's a hypnotic sedative.

I didn't, for some reason I thought it was an upper. Okay. Oh no. So, quail must be the, the, the brand name, I guess. Yeah, it's the aspir the brand name. I guess. Yeah. It's the aspirin. Yeah. It's the Tylenol.

Yeah. There's it's, I love this. I love suing. Bring back Ludes. Bring back Ludes is our message in 2024. But I mean, it's understand, like there's sort of a a Skryzan effect happening here where people are going

particularly hard on Steamboat Willie because Disney has like famously been fighting this moment for decades. Like they called the Sonny Bono thing, I think the Mickey Mouse saver or some shit like the Mickey Mouse law or... Yeah. So, like people... If the Disney corporation is in danger of not making as much money as they want, they put out a Mickey alert and it all goes to our phones and we all have to protect the copyright of Mickey Mouse.

That's how that works. The Mickey Mouse Protection Act is what it is called. So predictably just hours after Mickey entered the public domain, we got a trailer for a horror movie in which a guy in a Mickey Mouse mask is like a knife wielding serial killer. And they just do this with Winnie the Pooh. And also the mask looks like shit like the Winnie the Pooh one. Like for some reason they just, they're like, okay, you're allowed to use it, but you have to like make it out of a paper bag in like 15 minutes. It looks like total shit. Yeah.

It's also set in a Chuck E. Cheese-esque restaurant because of the success of Five Knife Freddy. So it's. Yeah. Five Knife Freddy? Is that So it's, yeah. Five Knife Freddy? Is that you doing a joke? Or is that it? Yeah, that's what we called it.

I think it was actually when your co-host on the Bechdel cast, Jamie Loftus, was on. Damn. We were a little bit mystified. So now I just outed myself as someone who didn't listen to that. Didn't listen to your own... I listened to everything Miles has ever been on paper, including phone calls that he doesn't know I'm listening to. You have like a secret baby monitor in his house.

I do. Just for you. That's right. Then sometimes I whisper things while he's asleep, just implant, incept ideas. But yeah, it's five Nights at Freddy's. I'm sorry, Caitlin. Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't like a classic or a goof.

Right, right. Could easily be. Yeah. But so just the least original film ever proposed. The thing that bums me out about these is like, they had it ready to go. It's like so uncreative. I just wish some just like the creativity is like shockingly low for this, for this whole like all of it. The whole classagory of these Mickey. It's good to know. Yes. Like all of it. The whole classigory of these Mickey-

It's good to know how you do. Yes. Yeah. It's really, it just bums me out. I don't know. I just, I just want something funnier, I guess. Yeah. Well, I think funny would be too close to...

Yeah. So like none of this is really legal. Like you, Disney could like sue any one of these that they wanted to out of existence. It's just a gamble. Whether that draws attention to it or not. That was a thing that I learned when I worked at Comedy Central many years ago. I think it was outside of it, but maybe this is a private conversation,

I'm not supposed to be repeating, but it doesn't matter that much. But like, you know, I was told that often, cause you like kind of have the impression like, Oh, you can't use Coca-Cola in your thing. So you've got to use this thing because of copyright or whatever. And it's rarely that. Like it's usually just that like the business affairs and ad salespeople would like to get Coca-Cola as a sponsor. To pay them.

Yeah. Yeah. So like, you don't get them for free, but it has nothing to do with the, like, base legality of, like, can you use it? And it's such a, like, detraction from the quality of movies. I think you've told us that before, but it's, like, so interesting to me because it's such a... If you could just...

It takes you out of the movie so much to have people drinking from a can that says soda on it. Crackle Cola. Yeah. Exactly. To me, the example I was given, I don't remember who said this, but like, you just can't like defame the product. Like you can't have someone drink a Coke, drop dead from a heart attack, and then all the characters say, that's what always happens when you drink a Coke. So as long as you're not like slandering the brand name. Yeah, right.

A brand like Quaalude, for example. Right, yeah. Which we've always said on this show is very good for you. Yeah, like quail lude for example, right? Which we've always said on this show is very good for you. Yeah, it's like taking your vitamins in the 1970s You know, I wonder if you can't you can't misrepresent You can't have quail ludes and just be like these get me high with no consequences Like I just did Yeah Well, I was an extra on a movie set one time, huge brag. It was a movie that never got a theatrical release.

But Emma Roberts was in it. It was about a high school basketball team and I was in this cafeteria scene where there were vending machines in the shot. But originally the vending machines, I think, were Pepsi. And then production brought in basically huge stickers that said Coca-Cola on them to place them over the Pepsi logo to make it seem like it was a Coca-Cola machine. Wow. And I don't know exactly why they did that, if that was some sort of agreement with Coca-Cola.

Oh, it must have been. Or if they were like, we want money from Coca-Cola, but not Pepsi. I don't know enough about it, but I just found that fascinating that it was like, oh, you specifically brought in stickers to make, to change what this product would be. Yeah. The director is just like, no, these people have Coca-Cola vibes. They would never. No, it's not. This is real. This is taking me out.

Pepsi, Emma Roberts, get the fuck out of here. Does not track. Emma Roberts does not exist in a universe alongside Pepsi. Like that that doesn't. It's like you can't put Michael Douglas in a movie set in the past, you can't put Emma Roberts in a movie in which there's Pepsi. Right.

It doesn't make sense. If he was in, if Michael Douglas was in a period piece, you'd still need to at minimum put a Blackberry in his hand. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't look natural without like, So, yeah. Has he ever been in a period piece? No.

William Goldman, the screenwriter, he wrote Princess Bride. He has one of his books on screenwriting, I forget which one it is. He talks about how his theory for why Ghost in the Darkness, I think, is the movie. It's like Jaws but a lion in Africa that is killing everybody. Then it's the 1800s, I think. The Quint character is this stoic lion hunter played by Michael Douglas. Everyone heading into the movie, movie's release was like, this is a sure thing.

Like, we have the next Jaws. And then it like tanked. And his theory for why it tanked is that Michael Douglas just cannot exist in a movie that takes place outside of like, after the, or before the 1980s. Like, he just like needs to be a horny businessman. Like, that's it. Like... It's kind of unsettling to even just imagine Michael Douglas before the 1980s. Like he just like needs to be a horny businessman. Like that, that's it.

Like it's kind of unsettling to even just imagine Michael Douglas in the same room as an animal or in the same like, right. So like, like anything that isn't like, yeah, lack of a fatal attraction. Look what happened to that. And look what happened to that rabbit. Yeah. Jesus. Anyways, like multiple movies actually hit on the same, multiple trailers dropped,

or I guess this one didn't have a full trailer, but there's an animated horror movie where Mickey Mouse will torment a group of unsuspecting ferry passengers. So they're like, steamboat will. What's the first thing we all think about with Mickey Mouse? That he was on that dang steamboat a long time ago. Well, what this movie presupposes is he's still on that steamboat and he's angry. But like, so that Winnie the Pooh movie.

Exactly. Like, does he do it in like weird, like animation, like, like giving looks to the camera, like whistling out of the side of his mouth as he's like, like, double knee bounce per step. And that is how I walk. Canonically, I walk with a double knee bounce everywhere I go. But that Shitty Winnie the Pooh movie, Caitlin, you referenced, that is the first in this classic movie was made for $100,000.

Evidently, every one of the dollars not spent over that is on screen Like you're like, yeah No, that's just a dude in a mask that like you didn't even bother to get the best mask for this job. Whoa And that movie made five point two million dollars because People were just like mad at it, and so it got passed around. The director of one of these Mickey Mouse slasher movies, this is the direct quote. We actually love the negative feedback because it just draws more interest.

There seems to be a market for people that want to hate this stuff, and it doesn't matter. Just if you watch the movie, if you pay to watch the movie, then yeah, that's all we want said the director of this work of art, about give a fuck. What are you, why are you talking to me? None of this matters. So out, so nihilistic. I don't know.

There is like a thing that I've been noticing just as a trend across media where we no longer distinguish between like, people were talking about how viral one of those Israeli comedy sketches went, you know, the ones that like, I guess, Brett Gellman was in one of them and Michael Rappaport, but they're just like super offensive, like, and people were like, it's gone viral. These things are like, it's like, no, people aren't like laughing and passing it around.

Everyone's like horrified at this. Right. Yeah. But there just does seem to be a way that we're just flattening it out. And it's just like, all attention is, not only does it work, but it's just evaluated the same as this, just like, yeah, that's a success, shamelessly. Mask off. Yeah.

We don't give a fuck. Unless it's a shitty Mickey Mouse mask. Yeah. I mean, it isn't, it isn't. Unless it's a shitty Mickey Mouse mask. Yeah, I mean it isn't it isn't it's like, you know the like Oh, I I like the negative press actually like Like that's like that is like the fifth emotion you have after like, you know, I know it's low budget It's kind of goofy but like maybe this is gonna be good and like no, okay But like call, you know, I'm just saying like, that that is also a

type of just, yeah, I guess. Right. Like it's not untrue, but it's also like, you know, I'm positive this person's dream wasn't too cynically snatch. I mean, admittedly a decent amount of money, but not a good Hollywood, you know, famous Hollywood director amount of money from this enterprise. So yeah, they're still disappointed. Don't worry.

Don't worry, Jack. They're still secretly... The way I read it was like, he's like, yeah, man, it's great. But it could be he said this with like a glassy far off gaze in his eyes. Yeah. He's just like feeling all of his life's dreams dry up. Yeah. It's still dark. I don't know why that would make me feel better.

I mean, it's still money, I guess. We do enjoy money, I suppose. But it is the thing of like, when people are like, yeah, I made it bad on purpose, then that was intentional, and it's part of the commentary. And it's like, no, you didn't. You tried your hardest and that was intentional. It's part of the commentary and it's like, no, you didn't. You tried your hardest and it was bad.

That's okay. Yeah. That's okay. You're bad. It's okay to be bad. There's so many people in the world. You're one of the bad ones. It's okay. At least you have money. A lot of people are bad and don't get money.

At least you can do the job that your boss has asked you to do. That's pretty good. Yeah. That counts for something, buddy. You're going to keep this staying employed. Disney can still like totally prevent people from using the early version of Mickey Mouse on consumer products. Like the way that people use logos.

It's like the, that people use logos. The closer you look at this, the harder it is to distinguish what actually changed because Disney could still sue you out of existence. I think the thing that changed is that a horror movie, there's no way that anyone would confuse that with being something that Disney was putting out. And so this is like the same legally, this is even though it on its surface seems like the most subversive thing to do, it's actually legally the safest thing to do because it's the most evidently like satirical.

Yeah. I think the thing is, it's like all this ever has done, this shit is like, slightly changed the risk calculus for litigation, you know, with a slight change in one portion of the copyright law, but, you know, other shit is blah, blah, blah. Like, yeah, it makes it slightly more of a pain in the ass for them. Like it gives your lawyers one more paper they can file that then gets swatted down by the Disney lawyers. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, you know, that does cost Disney money.

That costs billable hours, but like who gives a shit. Yeah, yeah, they don't give a fuck. They will spend you into the ground. One of the most famous examples of Disney threatening legal action over the use of Mickey Mouse wasn't for a scathing parody. And in fact, there is a short film in which Mickey Mouse is sent to the Vietnam War and shot and killed immediately after getting off the transport. And they did not sue that because they were like, oh, that would just draw attention to this.

So that came out in 1968 and they were just like, yeah, go knock yourself out. But they did sue three daycares that had unlicensed Disney murals. So yeah, so it's just like, yeah, yeah, because that could be seen as like, this is a Disneyland. This daycare is Disney branded. That's our end game, you guys. We will take all of your children into underground bunker with our characters painted all over it.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And yeah, as I mentioned, there's a Wall Street Journal article. If you sleep in socks, you're a psychopath. Health tip kicks up controversy. If you sleep in socks, you're a psychopath, as in quotes. So it's quoting one of the sources from this article, but it's, this is like a, one of those articles that mainstream institutions do sometimes where they, you

can tell like they are having fun or they're trying to communicate the idea that they're having fun and there's like, it's full of just shitty puns. So this brought it to my attention. I started like Googling around, like, am I weird for wearing socks in bed? And yes, I'm very fucking weird. People are not like, there's a Reddit thread that is all about this and. You know, they're, it's full of like aggressive opinions on both sides, but like the percentage of people who responded and said they wear socks is

like between five and 20% of people wear socks in bed. Everybody else is like, what? Like when I ask people, they're horrified at the idea that somebody would wear socks in bed. Yeah. I don't know, sleep specialists, they think it's a good idea. Because they, apparently if you keep your feet warm, then your body has to work less hard at like warming them up. And so it actually keeps your body temperature lower

to have socks on your feet somehow. Your body. Okay, because the whole rest of your body is like working to keep your feet from freezing off or something. Okay. Okay. Seems like bullshit, but I don't know why, especially with this being such a wildly unpopular take, I don't know why sleep experts would be bringing this up other than it's the hate

marketing that we talked about before. Right. All right. Well, I'm ready to disclose my habits. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay. So we get a little drum roll here. I want to hear this first. Like the little drum roll that they use, the little tippity thing they use before they reveal in deal or no deal what's inside the briefcase. Yeah, yeah.

Okay. Put that sound effect in. And... Okay, this is so anticlimactic. I will wear socks to bed in the winter when it's cold and my room is cold and I want to stay warm. But... Oh my God, the crowd are losing their minds.

That's fucking ten large that that was going to be your answer. But they are socks that are like my specific bed socks. I will not wear them around the rest of my apartment. I would never like put them in shoes and go out and then like also then wear those into bed. Anyone who like goes about their day in their dirty socks and then wears those same socks to bed, I do believe that those are unwell people.

You just turned into a Southern belle. Well, well, well. I do believe. I do declare. Five horn leg horn now, you see. I do believe that those people are unwell. Yeah, one of the articles I found was debunked or dismissive of sock wearing in bed based on the idea

that we're just coming from the gym in sweaty socks and like hopping into bed. It's like, no, what the fuck? Like we don't have one pair of socks. Like the whole point is that they're like dry, clean, nice socks that you put on after you take a shower. Yes. Here is my question for both of you freaks though. Did you... Is this behavior that was like acquired or did you never have you ever, I mean I'm sure

you've ever, but did you ever like on a regular basis sleep without socks and make a decision to be like I'm a socks man or socks person? I'm a socks man. That was both inappropriate and just flowed off my tongue. But you know what I mean? Has it always been socks? You know, more or less. So, I actually, there is,

so the thing that's interesting to me about this is that there really seems to be a broad, like propagandistic push against wearing socks in bed. Like, I want, my mom told me, like growing up, about the scariest nightmare she ever had and blamed it on wearing socks to bed.

Whoa. She was like, and I think it was because I wore socks to bed. And that's, and the nightmare is terrible. She was trying to like scare you out of this. I guess. But it's just like the Reddit thread has somebody, people are like, I physically recoil at the thought of wearing socks while asleep. I think sleeping with socks on feels grotesque.

I sleep with socks when I'm too drunk to take them off and honestly, waking up with socks on is worse than the hangover. But that person is going to bed with dirty socks on. And then somebody else wrote, 100% of sock sleepers are serial killers. True stat that I did not just make up on the spot. And Andrew, you agree that is true. Yeah, yeah. That one, I, I, I will just say I have never thought about it. I just reflexively don't like having socks on when I sleep. But yeah, I'll pick them up. Okay, I have a few counter points.

Yeah. One is- Yes, you do. And two. You do too. You do too. Okay, yes, socks can be gross and can become gross, but also so are feet. And if I was in bed with someone who had gross feet and they were rubbing up against me and

they hadn't clipped their toenails recently, that to me would be grosser than wearing socks to bed. Second counterpoint, I run very cold. I am always chilly. That to me would be grosser than wearing socks to bed. Second counterpoint, I run very cold. I am always chilly. Maybe that's it. And I, if I, and like, I'm also, I have like pretty bad insomnia.

And so conditions need to be like absolutely perfect for me to sleep. It has to be, you know, not too noisy. The bed has to be comfortable. My anxiety needs to be at a manageable level, I need to be the right temperature, and usually my feet are too cold without socks, especially in the colder months.

So I will lay awake all night long if my feet are too cold. Yeah. Because I'm not wearing socks. So. Feet and fingers are the only parts of being cold. Everything else about me runs super hot. But yeah, that is the case. Yeah, I run like this.

That's what we say, right? I should mention, I also am completely nude other than the socks when I sleep. Just three socks on. Now, okay. That reminded me of that Flight of the Concord song, Business Socks, which reminds me of, I think, a more relevant conversation here is if you wear socks during sex, that is psychopathic behavior. Yeah, because then you also have the garters on because you don't want your socks to fall

down while you're having sex. Apathetic behavior. Yeah, because then you also have the garters on because you don't want your socks Garters on around your knees steamboat Willie's back Steamboat Willie fucks with sock I also like sleep on my face. So I feel like maybe... I think I have reverse claustrophobia. I need to be... You need to be expansive. No, you need to be...

I need to be smushed. I think what a lot of people are responding to when I read their negative responses, like I didn't just get this shit off of me. Like I don't want anything like, you know. I think that's actually, as we're talking, I think in a vacuum, like I will take the socks off in my sleep. Like if they're on, like if in the event that I have, for instance, like fallen asleep, you know, maybe sooner than I anticipated for whatever chemically induced reason.

You were on so many ludes. Yeah. They'll wind up off. They'll wind up sometimes across the room. So it's not really- Your body doesn't want them on. Yeah. It's not my choice, really.

That's where the barters come in handy. It's like a body rejecting a kidney transplant. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, fair, like if your unconscious body is just like being like, get these the fuck off me. Yeah. So.

Yeah. I think. There's nothing I could really do about it. Nature has spoken in that case. Yeah. But yeah. Whereas your unconscious body isn't, certainly isn't going to be like, okay. It's putting socks on.

If I fall asleep without socks, I will wake up with them on. So many socks on. Three pairs of socks. Well, Caitlin, such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. What a joy. Where can people find you follow follow you, all that good stuff? You can find and follow me mostly on Instagram at Caitlin Durante. You can also go to my website, CaitlinDurante.com, for, I don't know, information.

I don't know. If I'm teaching screenwriting classes, I list them there and put the registration links. And the Bechtelcast is going on tour, like I mentioned. So if you live in San Francisco, Sacramento, San Diego, Austin, or Dallas, we are coming to those cities in early February. So you can go to Linktree slash Spectalcast for all the tickets to the shows there. So come and say hi to Jamie and I, and we'd love to see you there.

There you go. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes, I also alluded to this already, but the movie American Fiction that came out pretty recently, I very much enjoyed. I think it's super smart and funny and I laughed a lot and I highly recommend it. Have not seen it. My movie watch over the break,

my family likes to go to, and this is crazy, we're a little weird, we like to go see a movie on Christmas. Weird. What the fuck? It's the guy who was so excited about Caitlin's answer. Oh shit. Whether she wears socks or not.

Just like heckling. Where does he wear socks? The alt show. Yeah. Saw Ferrari and the degree to which that movie, apparently before seat belts, when there was a car accident, people were spring loaded in their car to just shoot.

If you ever dropped a pair of AirPods, like the AirPod case and they just shoot out, that's apparently what used to happen to people in Carnage. So I will say no more, but it's pretty wild. I haven't seen that movie yet, but I find it fascinating that it is, that it came out only a few years after Ford versus Ferrari. So like why all these Ferrari movies all of a sudden?

And it stars, I mean, Ferrari, yep, there it is. all of a sudden, and that it stars... I need a Ferrari for my end turn. Yep, there it is. And that, if I'm not mistaken, Adam Driver is playing Mr. Ferrari. I'm not sure, but he's doing like an Italian accent, right? Yes. And wasn't the whole thing with that Lady Gaga movie... Gucci.

Right, Gucci. House of Gucci, Ferrari. House of Gucci, Ferrari. House of Gucci, where Adam Driver was also doing an Italian accent that everyone was like, why is this a thing? Everyone's really doing a bad job. Yes. Is this like his redemption attempt? Jared Leto really took a lot of the attention.

Oh, okay. I see, I see. Full Mario, like, just, it's a me. It was real life. This one's definitely, like, not as silly as that one, but you do come away being like, this is the, this is such a strange form of typecasting that he has thrust himself into of like being a Italian historical figure who was having marital problems and is the namesake of a still famous brand and who like kind of has an Italian accent, but not really.

But it's like, but both of the, like the Ferrari movie, I thought he was going to be like a race car driver, you know, like the name, like his name promises, but he's just like the, a CEO. Like, it's like very much like a business guy. Yeah. Yeah. He's just a business guy, like trying to deal with an affair and like, I have a vision and stuff. It's still cool.

I don't hate it. deal with an affair and like, I have a vision and stuff. It's still cool. Shareholder value. I don't hate it. Michael Mann, when the car races, the car races, parts are fun. The car races, parts are fun. Is it still, it's set in like the seventies. Is this still shot on like the grainiest digital video camera you've ever seen? No, it's, uh, set in the, I would say the forties or fifties.

Oh, okay. Yeah. And it's, uh, it's shot like, uh, you say the 40s or 50s. Oh, okay. Yeah. And it's shot like a, you know, just clear, like it's clear. You can see. Wow. There's nothing on the camera. I like his movies that are like shot on that like pixel vision thing that recorded like

an audio tape or whatever. The most that I've watched a movie recently and been like, oh my God, this looks like shit. I didn't realize it at the time was collateral. I was watching collateral. I was like, why does this look like absolute shit? Yeah. I think it's just going from whatever he did back then with

digital to the high-def screens that we have now. It's a little weird. Yeah. Was it collateral? Collateral was shot on basically actual security cameras, I think, or something. It's a little weird. Yeah. Wasn't Clarell, Clarell was like shot on basically like actual security cameras, I think. Or something like that. Like it was something where it just like, it was something where it was like, yeah, this is the point.

It looks like fucking trash. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, basically. Amazing. Andrew, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Let's see, two things. One is I have over and over again,

apparently been saying the wrong date. We're doing a Yoast is Racist sketch show, SF sketch fest show on February 3rd at 7 p.m. at Cobb's Comedy Club. Apparently, I have fucked up the promo every time on my own show. So please, please come see that. And work of, sort of. My friend bootlegged this recipe for miso butter with chili crisp from, I think, Momofuku. And it's two parts butter, one part light miso, just whip it together, chili crisp on it. And then you do the thing with the spoon

where you kind of like go halfway and then turn it and make the little round of the butter like the little, you know, oval shape looking thing. Anyway, that's what I've been doing. That's what I did over all every conceivable holiday was like spend a quinelle. Yes. Thank you. The spoon thing. You have to do it in gelato places. I guess I don't fucking know anyway. That's that's the media I've been consuming is I guess YouTube videos about how to do that thing and how to do this butter There you go. Is that succinct that was very succinct. It was beautifully put Work media. I've been enjoying tweet from D

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Yeah, this song is by Nujabes. He's an amazing sample-based producer, much like Jay Dilla, but he's from Japan. He unfortunately passed away a while ago at an early age, but this is one of the first ever tracks that he made and it's not very easy to find anymore. It's a jazzy remix of One Love by Nas. It's great clean the house music as Miles always says, so you can check out One Love, the NUJA best remix in the footnotes. Footnotes? All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes

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We'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. It's going to be a blast. Have a great weekend. Happy to be back with you folks. And we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Hey y'all. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls. This January, join me for our third annual January Jumpstart series.

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