The Daily Zeitgeist - Top 10 of 2024: #9 J.Lo's Lemonade Moment? 01.19.24

Episode Date: December 24, 2024

We are counting down the top 10 episodes of 2024, as voted by our listeners. Up next, #9: J.Lo's Lemonade Moment? 01.19.24 In episode 1610, Miles and guest co-host Alex Schmidt are joined by host of Black People Love Paramore, Sequoia Holmes, to discuss… Trump’s Blotchy Hand Causes “Syphilis” To Trend, What The F*ck Is Going On In This Jennifer Lopez Movie? Conservative is so smart he proves that white people actually CAN NOT SEE RACE, “Blue Monday” – The Capitalist Hoax That Continues To Persist and more! Trump’s Blotchy Hand Causes “Syphilis” To Trend Donald Trump's hand sores 'are syphilis', says ex-presidential adviser in wild claim We asked a dermatologist about the mystery marks on Trump's hand. Here's what he said. Trump Wants to "De-bank" your life (clip) What The F*ck Is Going On In This Jennifer Lopez Movie? This Is Me...Now: A Love Story - Official Trailer | Prime Video Conservative is so smart he proves that white people actually CAN NOT SEE RACE Blue Monday 2024: When is Blue Monday and how to beat it? IT’S OFFICIALLY THE MOST DEPRESSING DAY OF THE YEAR: AN EXPERT OFFERS SOME TIPS TO LIFT THE GLOOM ON ‘BLUE MONDAY’ Blue Monday is coming up: Are you prepared for the most depressing day of the year? Blue Monday: a depressing day of pseudoscience and humiliation Blue Monday is nonsense The ‘Blue Monday’ depression peak isn’t real, but seasonal blues are. Here’s what to do Blue Monday is (still) just a PR gimmick, actual science shows Man who coined the term 'Blue Monday' apologises for making January more depressing Online sales on Blue Monday rise 18% as shoppers turn to shopping to cheer themselves up “Blue Monday” is churnalism, beware any journalist who puffs it LISTEN: Magpie by Lava La RueSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and a Santa's University, et cetera, unwind here at Daily Zeitgeist in addition to publishing our normal year end episodes and Santa's University, etc. We've decided to take the opportunity to count down the top 10 episodes of the year published over the next 10 days. The 10 days that will be off Monday through Friday, two weeks in a row. How, Jack, how did you guys determine the top 10 episodes? They were all equally incredible. Well, we used a little something called democracy. Ever heard of it? Depending on when you listen to this episode, that might not be such a rhetorical question. But anyways, we let you vote

on the most listened to episodes of the year to see what you liked best. And you're about to hear your answers. Just 10 bangers right in a row. We've got a trending episode in the mix. We got a lot of good ones. And at number one, well, let's just say you'll find out, especially if this is the number one episode. We're putting this same bumper at the start of all 10. So we hope you enjoy it. We hope you enjoyed listening to this year of TDZ as much as we enjoyed making it. And we will see you all in 2025.

We hope you have a restful holiday. Well, hello the internet and welcome to season 321 of, oh, I mean episode four of The Daily Psych guys. A production of iHeartRadio. This is the podcast, not the production seat. Look, it's been a minute since I was the main host. You know what I mean? So forgive me, y'all.

I'm stepping on my words. I'm stumbling and I'm just getting over jet lag. But this is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It is Friday January 19th 2024 and you're probably asking yourself well what is January 19th but what's wild is there's only one fucking holiday today or national day today it's national popcorn day so get it popping however you like to microwave otherwise yeah or in a hair straightener. I just love popcorn I'm very excited I'm really great. Yeah, well, let's let's interrogate that in a little bit Well, first of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Miles Gray aka now here I go

Again, I dream I'm in Japan. I Keep my air pods on in church It's THC That's always suppressing all my dreams Are there any dreams I'd like to see dreams of Tokyo? Okay, let me get to the fucking chorus real real quick. Take me on a journey DJ Khaled playing with a dragon when I'm playing said dreaming it will come and it will go when I'm off the weed, my dreams will flow.

They'll flow. Anyway, thank you so much. Seanie underscore Pawnee on the Discord. You know, honestly, it is really wonderful to have these kinds of AKAs. You guys were listening to what I've been saying about my dreams. They have come back ever since I stopped smoking weed.

But I'm still, I'm lightly smoking weed. I'm trying to, again, like I told Jack, I'm trying to find this balance between smoking weed and still having my dreams because getting my dreams back has been such a weird, I feel, I don't know, it's been amazing, but enough about me. Let me introduce today's guest co-host, someone who you've already heard exclaimed, they are a lover of popcorn. Not only that, they're a fantastic comedy writer, fantastic podcast host.

They won fucking Jeopardy. They have their own podcast, which I've been on, I got the pleasure of being on, called Secretly Incredibly Fascinating. It is the one and only Alex Smith. Buddy, thank you. I didn't prepare it, okay. Let's just say I was on a skateboard drinking a lot of Ocean Spray while you were doing your wonderful song. I think that was where I should have been.

And that's where I was in my heart. I mean, again, well, can I just clarify, you love popcorn? Like you audibly went, oh, for the popcorn. Go on. What is it? Is it the movie? Is it the microwave? Is it the popcornopolis? What, go on, what is it? Is it the movie? Is it the microwave? Is it the popcornopolis?

What are we talking here? I think it's like only not my favorite food because it's kind of just air. But otherwise it's pretty much, and I like to make it on the stove top because then you can flavor it however you want. You know, you can do the balance your way. It's not up to the microwave bag.

I'm sorry, when you do it on a stove top, would you put like in a skillet or some shit? I have a custom, not appliance, but it's like an aluminum pot with a gizmo on it. It's called a Whirly Pop. And so you put all the kernels in it and then there's a rotating tool that moves the kernels so that they like keep moving around and pop perfectly.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's fantastic. And then how do you see, like, what's your, like you put the seasonings in with the kernels? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can add them later, but there's an amazing specific salt for popcorn called Flavacol. It's in like an orange carton. Flavacol, okay. I am, let me tell you, I do not talk about this a lot and I am learning how much I'm

into it as I say it. I am very into popcorn culture. You even have producer Victor in the chat. He's like, what the fuck? You are blowing my mind right now. I'm so jealous right now hearing of this. Okay. Now I'm interested because I, I would love to like turn up popcorn.

That's like spicy. You know what I mean? I love spicy shit. Yeah. I know I'm just thinking of it right now, like a bunch of cayenne pepper or like other kinds of spices. Anyway, that's another show called snacks. We never thought about, which is coming to iHeart actually next fall,

so stay tuned for that. But before we do that, Alex, let's introduce our guest, someone who also has a very incredible podcast, which is also, I mean, like we're saying, Labelmates on Max Fun. So exciting, new thing. Yeah, we've had her on before. Everybody loves having her.

We love having her. She is the host and creator of the black people love paramour pod. Please welcome to the microphone Hello, hello, I'm so excited to be back. Thank you for coming back. Thank you back All right, where are you at on the popcorn conversation? I saw you you were definitely you had movement I saw you, you were definitely, you had movement too. I was popping, I was popping with the popcorn. I love popcorn. I love popcorn so much. Alex, have you tried, Trader Joe's has a seasonal popcorn that's stuffing flavored. It's the best thing I've ever had in my life.

It's wild. It's so good. It's so good. It's only there in the month of November though. And it sells out pretty quick. If they have it next year, I'm buying so many bags. It's fire. I'm dead inside from hearing that. I love stuffing is like one of my is really for me one of my favorite things. I love everything. I love everything.

Thanks, Stephen. Don't get me wrong, but I fucking love stuffing. I think it's the time. It's the celery, the onion. They have popcorn that tastes like that. It tastes just like it too. Like I was shocked. And when I went back to Trader Joe's trying to get it again, they didn't have it.

But the lady pointed me to the seasoning that they have that they use for the popcorn. And the seasoning is called Everything But The Leftovers. And I think they have that year round, not positive and inspiring. So you've had that one? I have put it on popcorn. Yeah. Exactly. There it is.

There it is. So you've had it, more or less. Okay. Okay. So we're learning a lot. We're learning a lot about each other. Where are you on the, you know, like the tins of popcorn that you would get at the mall? I love a good tin of popcorn.

I'm not mad. I'm not a super sweet popcorn girly, but I do like when they mix the, the like a white cheddar and a caramel or something by, my mom is also from Chicago and Chicago has like this big thing around Oh, yeah, what's in pop? Well, what's the what's the spot? Like what's I can't remember the name? What's the name? Do you know Alex producer producer Justin? You're from this you're from Chicago area Garrett's Garrett We have proper Chicago representation here, there's like nuts on Clark has the bags too. She can do that But but Garrett's yeah, that's the way to get the top of the three.

Yeah, for sure. Wait, your mom's from Chicago? She is. All right. Is your dad from Chicago? No, my dad's from Alabama. Oh, okay. See, it's interesting.

Like, cause my grandparents came out from Chicago to LA. It's like, there's always, there's always that poll happening. I think it was mostly the second world war that did that for my grandparents. But damn, that'll do grandparents. But anyway, Sequoia, we will get to know you and your love of popcorns and other things much better. But first, we got to tell people, give them a light preview as to what we're going to talk about today. We're talking about what is going on with Donald Trump's hands prior on Twitter. And everyone's like, he's got syphilis or it's, you know, he playing too much PlayStation. We will, we will dive into this because I don't think it's syphilis, but we, we

have James Carville to thank for that. The raging Cajun and former Clinton advisor. Also in just other, just very obviously culturally significant news, we must discuss whatever the fuck is going on in this new Jennifer Lopez movie. We must. Yeah. I'm, I saw the trailer. I like to think I have good sort of visual comprehension, but I'm not sure if

I can like adequately describe what this is, so we will, we will take that journey together and try and figure out using our combined intellectual strength to decode whatever that trailer was. Then- Miles, you saying that, I wish you were describing like Made in Manhattan 2 or something like just the most normal Jennifer Lopez movie. Yeah, yeah. For real.

Of what was it? Marry Me, Marry Me, Say Yes? What was that movie? Was that the movie? Was it called Say Yes? Or Marry Me, I think was the- Yeah. Dude, I don't know why I watch every like when JLo put something out, I fucking watch it. I don't know why.

A lot of people, right? Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people feel that way about her acting roles. Yeah, I don't know. But it's not even I don't know what the thing is. I'm like, I got to respect it. I think it's because she was Selena. And I'm like, ever since then, I'm like, you know what, JLo,, I don't know why I'm gonna watch everything. Even straight to Peacock movie.

Black people love Selena. Oh, hell, exactly. And also like West Coast, like West Coast, no matter what, but especially like for black people on the West Coast, you know what time it is with Selena. So we got it. We got a shot on Selena's. it is with Selena. So we got it. We got a shout out Selena's. But then we'll also talk about this conservative Michael Knowles. He's so smart that he actually proved that white people are incapable of seeing race. He's figured it out. He has the proof or he will just very in bad faith misinterpret a survey and say that's what it is. But anyway, we'll get to that. Plenty more. We might even talk about Blue Monday, which is like this thing that happens in the UK. And sometimes we see it over here. And what is going on with that?

It just turns out it's a sales thing. But we'll get into that. Plenty more. But first, Sequoia B. Holmes, we must ask you, what is something from your search history? OK, I recently searched Billie Eilish and Renee rap together in a photo because I have a hard time believing that's not the same person Tell me that's not the same person. It is the same human being and a baseline related Their cousins right

So is it a firm theory? What do you think it Is it the head shape? Because that's where I feel like they've, with their blonde hair, the way their hair falls and their head face shape, I'm like, okay, that's, we're in eyelash territory. You know what? Honestly, it's the whole middle part of their face. It's really the whole face, but it's something about the eyes. They both have these kind of like, not dead behind the eyes, but a little, like they've seen some things behind the eyes.

Yeah. They both have that look. Yeah. Are you? It almost feels like they're both characters in a movie where it's twins swapping lives or something, you know? A parent trap. I love parent trap from them.

That would be so good. Yeah. She also like, I would believe if she was related to Pink too. Oh, I can definitely see that. Yeah, I can see that too. That makes sense. But what are we putting another or should we put the conspiracy theory out there now that they are one and the same? I do think I would until I see them together.

You can't tell me otherwise. So, OK, yeah, I like this. Again, maybe we just start a podcast about that called How Come Billy and Renee in the same photo ever? Why not? Put them together now. now for me wrong. Also, oh, I forgot to ask, I don't were you on since you had Haley from Paramore on your podcast? I don't know if I've been on. I don't think you were. I was fucking geeking when I saw that shit.

Thanks. I was like that. Yeah. Blown the fuck away. And it sounded like you had such a good time I'm I just wanted I just want to point that out that I saw that you so much I thought it was great. It gave me excitement and in a way that I don't think I ever have Were you sitting on that for a minute for a minute. Oh, it was very hard. Yeah, I don't think I've ever sat on a picture like that. Like I hope to one day be like, oh, my God, I post shit.

I couldn't even sleep. I woke up at like 5 a.m. Like posting it. Yeah, it's going up right now. You're like for the East Coast, obviously, for people in the UK. They are. Yeah, they got it. People, people in the GMT Greenwich Mean Time also love Paramore, so we might as well post it to them at that time. Yeah, they got it too, yeah.

What's something that you think is overrated, Sequoia? Cold Stone Creamery is the most overrated ice cream chain among them, for sure. Go on, what is it about it? What are we saying here? It's so rich. Cold Stone is so rich. The flavor combinations are not interesting or original and it's just kind of gross. Like it tastes like I'm eating cheese and we know I don't like cheese.

I talked about this on the first episode. I don't like cheese and it tastes like I'm eating cheese every time I call. So I like, I like that you've come in at the end of cold stone and then with the even bigger take of anti-cheese. That's great. Like just escalating. Yeah. Yeah. Just the fucking attack of me like it tastes like cheese.

It's so funny. I love that. I don't want to eat that. It's nasty. Okay. Then what's a superior ice cream for you? Like if you're saying get that out of the way, allow me to introduce you or we should be embracing this place.

I am a Jenny's ice cream girly. I think that's in different spots in the U.S. not as pervasive as a cold stone. I also love Haagen-Dazs. Haagen-Dazs has fallen out of public grace recently. Or public, I don't know, just public in general. Yeah. But I like Haagen-Dazs.

It's great. Yeah. Haagen-Dazs, because like the whole thing was like, it was based on like a fake, like the mirage of it being this fancy ice cream place. But the people were just like, what can we name this shit to make people think this shit is fucking fancy? based on like a fake, like the mirage of it being this fancy ice cream place. But the people were just like, what can we name this shit to make people think this shit is fucking fancy? They said a Haagen-Dazs.

And they got my ass, because yeah, I'll stay with a little pint of Haagen-Dazs in the freezer. It's good. Yeah. Jeni's has some good, I mean, Jeni's, I feel like they have nationwide distribution now. Like, yeah. Oh yeah. It is in my grocery stores and stuff. Yeah. Because whenever I see it, I'm like, oh shit, okay.

What about you, Alex? Yeah. Alex, you got, where were you in on this ice cream debate? I had never thought about my opinion of Cold Stone. And I think I don't like it that much either because I'm not that into toppings on ice cream. And the whole process is sort of toppings all over. And I don't really need that my toppings. The ice cream is so good already. Most places. It's wild. And then your whole process is sort of toppings all over. And like, I don't really need that many toppings.

The ice cream is so good already. Most places. If the ice cream is good, but it's not at Coleson. That's why I have to lean on the toppings. This is the thing. The one, when I would, I used to work, when I worked at this laser tag place back in high school and college doing like kids' birthdays, the spot was above a Cold Stone.

And so I would go down there and I would trade like laser tags and shit with like the people that worked at the Cold Stone. They're like, oh, let me hook you up. I was like, please don't. I just want, I just want this sweet cream ice cream on its own. Like that was the only thing I ate there. I did not, like they would be like,

oh, you're gonna try the apple pie all the mode. I'm like, I do not. Please listen to me when I say you're hooking me up by just giving me a big ass cup of sweet cream ice cream. That's hard. Yeah, that's it. That's it. Yeah. It's not so difficult, is it? Yes. Jenny's got it. What's the one that I fucking I'm absolutely in love with over there?

Is it salt and sugar? Gouy butter cake. Gouy butter cake. Oh, oh, at Jenny's. Yes. The butter cake one at Jenny's. Yes. Their salty caramel is my favorite. It's so good, it's perfect. Jenny's, and we're looking,

we're willing to look past the Listeria scare that you had a few years ago, you know what I mean? Come sponsor the show. Stop it. I'm not gonna do this at all. Stop it. Yeah, they had a, I remember it pull on, and everyone was like, no, our favorite ice cream place.

I'm like, you just eat around it. Eat around the Listeria. On the floor. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. When you said that, I suddenly imagined it being Jenny's fault personally. I don't know who Jenny is.

Just popped into my mind. She's like, oops, seeing something into the ice cream. That was the story. One of the desperate housewives living on Listeria Lane or wherever the fuck they live. Was she? No. Are you joking? Wasn't their shit called Wisteria Lane? Wisteria. That sounds right. Wisteria Lane or whatever the fuck it is. Was she? No, are you joking? OK, thank you. Wasn't their shit called Wisteria Lane?

Wisteria. That sounds right, Wisteria. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, sorry, that was a bad, you know what? I'll see myself out. I'm doing Desperate Housewives references in the Year of Our Lord 2024. No, it's fine. It's worse because I fell for it.

Sequoia, what is something you think is underrated? We're going to stick with the ice cream theme here or frozen yogurt in general. A simple tart flavored frozen yogurt or a plain vanilla ice cream is so superior. And if you have those done well, you don't need all the bells and whistles that everybody's doing right now. Yep. Who's your, what's your, who's your favorite tart frozen yogurt or ice cream? You know, I'm pretty indifferent.

I can get it from yogurt land. I could do tutti frutti. I could do pink berry. I could do pretty much anything with a tart frozen yogurt. I haven't seen that messed up. Yeah, it's good. Cause got that little yogurt bite to it. Just a little, a little pucker.

Yeah. It's good. It reminds me of like when I cook, like my mom wouldn't buy me like snack pack or like chocolate pudding at the storage. Like you should be in yogurt. And I'm like, there's no fucking sugar in here. But I like that's all I could get down on. So once I remember when Pinkberry came out, I was like, again, I'll just eat this.

Yep. No topics. You're like, if you have a regular yogurt in the freezer, is it frozen yogurt or is there something special about frozen yogurt? Is it not just frozen yogurt? What is it? I don't know. I don't know how they make it. I'm realizing this. It's always just been a mystery except when I pulled the handle. Right.

It's probably good. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, are you a topping guy? Are you a simple pleasures guy? Because I know obviously you don't like your popcorn simple. Do you like your yogurt simple? Right. I think I'm very excited that I'm finding all three of us are so on the team of simple

dessert and like make dessert just one thing when you're having dessert. Just do it well. Yeah. Like I even the how it like winter always reminds me that I don't like eggnog very much because I don't need dessert to also be alcohol. Like I can just have dessert. Oh, all right. The team's breaking up.

I never say yeah, that alcohol, but the flavor fucking goes. I don't even put alcohol in mine. Yeah, the flavor goes. I will fucking eat the ice cream. Wow, we were doing so fucking well. This is ijinksta. Before this, Alex. This year or this past year, I found a ice cream sandwich

that had eggnog in the middle. It was an eggnog ice cream sandwich. Was it also Trader Joe's? Yeah. That sounds pretty good. Where was that at? It was at Ralph's or Bond's, one of those main grocery store chains. It was the signature selects brand, like the grocery store chain brand.

Yeah. Oh, God. Wow. So good. Sometimes they don't miss. They understand our simple palates that we're little babies. We just want to drink eggnog and have yogurt all day. Tasty.

All right. Well, we're going to take a break. We're going to come back and we're going to get into some just hard hitting those. Like does Trump have syphilis right after this? Hey, y'all. I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford, host of Therapy for Black Girls, and I'm thrilled to invite you to our January Jumpstart Series for the third year running. All January, I'll be joined by inspiring guests who will help you kickstart your personal growth with actionable ideas and real conversations. We're talking about topics like building community and creating an inner and outer glow. I always tell people that when you buy a handbag, it doesn't cover a childhood scar.

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where every week we explore the secrets that are kept from us, the secrets we keep from others, and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Listen to Season 11 of Family Secrets on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan.

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and collect valuable advice. like FIFA World Cup winner Ashlyn Harris. I wish my village would have prepared me for how hard motherhood was gonna be. And Peloton instructor and Ratchet Mom Club founder Kirsten Ferguson. And I remember going in there hot mess. So listen to Moms Who Puck, a production of iHeart Women's Sports and Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeart And we're back. And I'm sure some of you have probably heard of this or luckily maybe some of you have are doing the good thing and not spending a lot of time on social media but there is a picture of Donald Trump that was really

just doing the rounds on the internet on Thursday or on Wednesday going into Thursday as well where he was just leaving the courtroom where he was absolutely having a fit. We'll probably touch on that next week. It was just giving just a wave to the supporters and the reporters. And someone took a photo of this. And on his right hand, not unlike a 14 year olds yearbook photo, it was covered in red splotches. And people were like, what is going on with his hands people online joke that he said the red spots could be everything from most McDonald's ketchup because you know, he loves McDonald's to red ink from top secret documents.

But then the word syphilis started trending on social media. And if you clicked it, you're like, what are we doing here? And it all basically, it seems like it all comes from an unverified claim made by James Carville, the raging Cajun who loved to just talk a lot of smoke about Donald Trump. And on his live cast show, he said this about the photo. He said, they don't look like cuss to me. They look like sores. And I've asked a number of MDs, what medical condition manifests itself through hand saws and the answer is immediate and unanimous secondary syphilis

I said what the secondary syphilis? He also said maybe the picture was doctored or whatever. Maybe the story will go somewhere Maybe it won't it's like okay, sir First of all, you can't just I know you want to just be saying this shit Journalism First of all, you can't just, I know you want to just be saying this shit, but this is not journalism at all. Maybe it was doctored or whatever. And maybe it'll go somewhere that I'm saying out loud that this is syphilis. Whatever. It's my podcast. Yeah. You mean he's not going to get the Pulitzer for guessing about hands? He's not going to get that award that they always give every year? And I'm just, I don't, what is secondary syphilis? I would imagine my theory on what secondary syphilis is,

is you have syphilis, right? And that manifests, you know, where syphilis usually manifests, I'd imagine somewhere on your trunk. And then if you're Donald Trump and you tug it off, then where does it go? Your hand. Oh, okay, so- That's my theory.

Yeah, what, there's teeth, syphilis, there's just, there's too much going on. And that was so specific. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a generalized infection. It's characterized by systemic symptoms. And if you're in a very infected, OK, whatever. All that to say is when I look at that, I'm like, as much as I want to be like,

yeah, man, Carvel fucking nailed it. This dude has syphilis and it's on his hand. That's like that's where everything goes. But like everything, like so many people like started talking about this that like other like news outlets were like based on this syphilis claim, like they were reaching out to dermatologists to be like, what is it? Like what could be going on? And most people were saying like, it's probably a rash caused by like overwashing, which makes sense. We know Trump is like a germaphobe.

I honestly think it's from golfing. That looks like where it is like on your hand. That's from just swinging a golf club all the time. Like that looks like a friction injury is again, look, I'm not here to defend Donald Trump and his hands and whatever the fuck, but it's just like the people were getting so giddy About the simplest thing is just a little too much for me He's playing so much fucking golf and he sucks

He's price techniques by all fucked up that he's got a lot of blisties. Okay? Yeah I think a lot of people are giving like this sort of clap theory a lot more weight Mostly because of Trump's love of not ever making sense when he's speaking out loud and they're like, look, got to his brains, man. And people claim, I was like, it's, it's his, it's his mental deterioration due to the syphilis. It could also be because he's old and highly inarticulate, but here, a lot of

people were saying like, cause recently he said this I'm just gonna play this clip where He started talking about banks, but then it became about Something else I try and follow along with whatever Donald Trump was saying here in New Hampshire But we're also going to play strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to debank you from your You know your political beliefs what they do they want to debank you and we're going to debank you from your political beliefs, what they do. They want to debank you and we're going to debank. Think of this, they want to take away your rights, they want to take away your country,

the things you're doing, all electric cars, give me a break, if you want an electric car, but they don't go far, they're very expensive, they're going to be made. They're like, boom, simplest. Did someone, I feel like someone taught him the word debunk and then he's just messing it up. Oh, is that what he's trying to say? Debank?

Okay. I don't know. Or he's starting off, right? He said he wants to play strong protections. I think this is a culture war thing to stop banks and regulators from debanking you because that's like, like financially deep platforming, like hate sites, or people who are involved in hate speech, you see where they're like, Oh, okay, this bank will no longer bank with me or I can't sell my like, KKK fucking like t shirts with this, they don't

want to do any of my consumer, like transactional banking, I think that's what he meant. Because that's what it's like to debank you from your political. That's they want to and we're going to debank. Think of this. They're taking away your country. It's like, I think we always end up. Yeah. I mean, I think that's where it's like. And then maybe reflexively just went into like just, you know, doing the rah rah. Like, let's get all angry about the fact that America is a diverse place.

It felt like. But then electric. Then he did electric a diverse place. But then electric cars. Then he did electric cars. He hit us with electric cars. That's what really got us lost. I don't understand. How do we get here? Yeah. Yeah. If his flow is caused by syphilis, he's had syphilis for his entire life. Yeah. And he's just seeing it on his hands right now. Yeah. We've always just called it Trump jazz. That's just what he does. Right. It's like, and then he just changes up to something else. And now he's just like playing in a completely different key and you got to

follow along with all the changes. But yeah, I, you know, James Carville, as much as I like to say that, you, you know, you, I like this, you know, that Donald Trump and Lord and snake nipples. Maybe that there's a different explanation here for his blisters, which it might look like, but who knows. I feel like it's such a media literacy thing. Broadly, people just need to know that if a story sounds way, way too exciting and good to you, that's the story you check the most. If you're thrilled about Donald Trump suddenly having weird public syphilis

Yeah, right. It's probably it's probably too much of a treat. We're back to talking about dessert. You know what I mean? New flavor from Jenny's secondary syphe Yeah, I won't even describe that but. I won't even describe that, but we get it. And then like it's true, Alex, like I think a lot of people, like with anything, when you're, when your confirmation bias is set to a certain direction or a certain flow of things, narratively speaking, all you need is something that like sort of begins to intersect with that. Do you like, yeah, dude, he's got simplest all over his hands, man. He's losing his mind.

It's like, relax. I know you don't want him to be president, but like, let's maybe focus on other things that might feel more substantive than just being like, it's the syphilis. Well, let's focus our energy on something truly confounding. More is than Donald Trump's hand source. The trailer for Jennifer Lopez's new Amazon Prime movie just hit the internet and was my first reaction. It's called This Is Me Now, a love story.

And it's also the name of her new album, which also comes out the same day. So are we doing a lemonade type thing here? JLo is that what this is? No, I'm, that's, I have to, I have to, I'm just, I'm looking at the pieces and I'm trying to put the information together to try and make sense of this. Or is this a musical? That's what it is. Is it a feature length Gucci ad?

Because that's what I also suspect. I'm wondering how much money Gucci put in on this because there is so much Gucci in that trailer. I was like, okay, like we get it. Like you either sponsored by Gucci or they're sponsoring this whole thing. But nobody seems to be sure. One person on Twitter said that the plot

was seemingly about quote, a sex addict who works in a nuclear post-apocalyptic factory, which kind of tracks visually. Like, where are we? What's happening? What do we, like, the trailer opens, says with a credit that says the movie is from the heart, soul, and dreams of Jennifer, it's like from the heart,

soul, and dreams of Jennifer Lopez. I'm like, okay. Okay. Go on, like, what is this about? It seems very dark. But then it plays like a like a rom-com or something. But they say she's a sex addict and she's getting married too much. And I don't know what what what do you think? What is going on here? What were the most confusing parts for you guys watching this whole thing? I mean, the genre is the most confusing part. Like I don't even know.

I don't know if this is scripted. I'm positive that it's scripted, but like, it's not super clear immediately. I don't know if it's a musical. I don't know if it's feature length. I literally don't know anything. Yeah. Yeah. Alex, what do you, you, you, you're smarter than most people.

What is this about? That's smart enough. She has a double heart-shaped cutout in a wedding dress. That was cool. I was looking for the nuclear factory or whatever after reading that. I don't know if I totally got that vibe from the trailer. Maybe it's the city as a character thing. It's just in the background of the film. I really don't understand.

That big title of From the Dreams of Jennifer Lopez, I feel like somebody at least knows this is out of control. Yeah. Yeah, they're in on it. Maybe J.Lo stopped smoking weed and her dreams got so wild. She's like, y'all, I figured out my lemonade. So everybody says I'm a sex addict, but then I'm getting married to three different dudes because you know how I like to get married and then I'm playing.

I'm dancing on a basketball court, but then I have a hazmat suit on in a steampunk industrial complex where I'm also performing with the other. I, I, it's, I don't know, but it's intriguing. I'm also performing with the other. Right. It's I don't know. But it's intriguing. I'm intrigued. I want to know more. And when you look at the people and they say, like, starring Fat Joe, Trevor, Nor Trevor Noah, Kim Petras, Post Malone, Kiki Palmer, Sophia Vergara, Jennifer Lewis, Jay Shetty, Neil deGrasse Tyson, Sad Guru,

the dude from YouTube doing all the spiritual shit. Derek, Derek Huff and Ben Affleck. I was like, OK, you lost me again. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm not sure because there's like also these moments where she it looks like she's like on somehow like ripping the fabric of space time. Yeah, sure. It gives like really big Disney Channel original movie with the with a budget like a high school production. Big budget, sure. It gives like really big Disney Channel original movie with a budget. Like a high school musical production,

big budget though, meets interstellar. Yeah, cause the visual effects are like, they don't look cheap at all. Like they don't look janky. Like it would be one thing I was like, this looks janky. I'm like, there's a lot of money in this. And I think I think Lacey Mosley was she was she was saying something on Twitter about it, how they're like, look, she just went in there and said, like all this wild

shit and they just bought it in the room. Like they didn't give a fuck. They're like, yep, we're all in on this. We love it so much, JLo. We love it, Jennifer Greenlit. How much money do you need? OK, 40 million dollars. That's the life I want to have, too.

I admire that. Yeah. I have to say, this does seem like some shit that I would do. Just very zany, off the wall. I'm gonna sing and I'm gonna dance, and this is gonna be my thing and my life story. I get it. I get it, JLo. Yeah.

It's totally like, that's what throws me off, is like, there's some really dark visuals along with stuff that is like so pop, like even like pop music like popular culture like rom-com like sleepless in seattle type stuff yeah but but then like you said we go to interstellar and i'm like i whatever i'm probably watch it yeah i don't know what it is, but I love it. I think, yep. Yeah. Is the problem here that Jennifer Lopez is too talented? That opens up so many avenues for what this can be.

She can dance and sing and do fashion and do five genres of movies. She does sing. I don't know if she can, She does sing. She does sing. She definitely can dance. Oh, yeah, she can dance. Right, she can dance. She does sing, so I don't know. She can put an outfit together.

You know, she'll be able to look. Visual artists like that, that's where I'm a little bit like, I'm, I don't, I did not know. Let's see, like, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm just trying to say, oh, I did not know that about you, J-Lo, that you were a visionary. Because I just know you to just trying to say, oh, I did not know that about you, J. Lo, that you were a visionary because I just know you to be a very talented performer, but I did not know this is art. Do we think, and Sequoyah, I know you recoiled a bit.

Is she trying to get in the lane of some of these other artists, like Beyonce, who are like, you thought it was just singing and dancing? I'm going to fucking... You dancing? I'm gonna fucking... You thought. I'm seeing art in five dimensions. That's why I'm ripping the fabric of space time talking to Neil deGrasse Tyson. Come along for the ride. I don't think she's trying to do that.

It get, it kind of seems like she's in on the joke or they're in on the joke based on the, from the dreams of Jennifer Lopez. That kind of makes me feel like you're in on the joke. There was no joke when it came to Lemonade. We was not giggling. Yeah, that was so serious. Right, right, right. But that's what I'm saying.

Like, could you like, do you think this could even have like a bit of like winking at the audience? Like, I know this is kind of I do. You do think so? I hope I really do think that. OK, well, what if it is? And what if that's like, what do you think? Is it if it's executed well enough? I think she could pull it.

I think she could pull it off and execute it well enough. OK, OK. Yeah, well, we'll have to have some art critics on to really examine this. Yeah, further, because it's I love a good musical now. Singing and dancing in a number I'm in. So I'm already wanting you to win, JLo, please come to me. She's I mean, how old is JLo? She's a kid at the time.

I think she's like 50. Lopez, come on now. What are we talking here? 54. Oh, let them know Jennifer. 54? Let them know. Halfway to 60?

Eating the girlies. Oh, come on Jennifer. Man, I'm just telling you, is it, is it the, I mean, it's genetics and obscene wealth that I think puts you like in a time machine like that. We like, I don't know, stress. I mean, I haven't had a driver look me in my eye since 1988. Yep. So from that aspect, I think that was someone was saying that, right?

Was Jennifer, like someone was driving Jennifer Lopez around and like they couldn't look her in the eye kind of thing like that was for real. Like, why do so many celebrities have the the note that people can't look them in the eye? What's going on? Are they okay? Or is that like an urban legend? I've heard this story from about a number of people now about looking in the eye. No about celebrities. I want to be looked in the eye. No, about celebrities not wanting to be looked in the eye. Remember when Ellen didn't want to be looked in the eye? Oh yeah.

And there's one other one that was notable. That was like, don't look at me. Right. Why? Alex, do you think the looking in the eye could be like our confirmation bias with Trump's syphilis? We're like, yeah, I believe that. Ellen don't want to look nobody in the eye.

You know what I mean? Thinking they're too good for eye contact or is there a real thing to be like I don't know. They just don't fuck with eye contact from workers. I I feel like it's an evolution of celebrities simply wearing sunglasses Right now they're like sunglasses are for plebeians. I tell people to not observe I'm not gonna cover them. You're just gonna at them. Yeah. I'm high as fuck. Do not look at me right now. Oh, now I can believe that. Yeah.

If it's really like I got some stuff going on, don't look over here. I get it. But yeah, but it's such a flexary, like, I don't need sunglasses. Those motherfuckers just shouldn't look in my direction. How about that? Just stop perceiving my face. Yeah, exactly. Because I'm me and y'all are not.

All right. Well, yeah, Zeit Gang, let us know what, do you think this is going to be a comedy? Or not comedy, but do you think it's going to be somewhat tongue in cheek? Is this her pushing her boat out to be just a complete, like, you know, visionary and doing a whole new lane? I don't know. Is it a Gucci ad? That's the other part. I know Gucci had to have funded some dimension of this part.

And it just can't, I just cannot believe that there's, I was hit with so much Gucci iconography and they don't have something to do with this shit. So it would, it would be fantastic if this turned out to somehow be like 30 seconds long, even though the trailer's like,, like that's it's truly just a commercial. That's it. Right. Does this come out on April 1st? When is the, when is the date?

No, right. No, I think it comes out in February. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, but who knows yet, but she pushes it back. She's like, actually I have to push the release back to March, March 32nd.

Are there 31 days in March? Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. See, you got to do that. See that joke landed. All right. Let's move on to something a little more confounding, aggravating, but also so predictable. So right now, I feel like a lot of the conservatives, they're loving to do this thing right now is to pretend that America has no history of racism or is currently having a contentious battle with the history of racism of the United States. We have people like Vivek Ramaswamy,

Nikki Haley going around saying things like, America was never racist except a couple of years ago when they were very racist to me as being the only Sikh Indian family in this town in South Carolina. But after that, there has been no racism aside from chattel slavery and other things like that or manifest destiny. And there was no racism during the Trail of Tears and things like that. And then the genocide of indigenous people and taking the land. And aside from that, we I don't understand why people are bashing our history.

It just makes no sense. And then people like Charlie Kirk are trying to take down like the contributions of people like Martin Luther King, just like the latest conservative tactic, which is again, to be like racism was never a thing in order to, cause I think the long game here is if like, from what I'm seeing is that to attack the civil rights act. And then say, if there was no racism to begin with, there was actually no need to have all these weird protections for, for

marginalized people in the Civil Rights Act. And I think we need to rethink that because we were never, and now look what it's doing, it's just causing all these problems. You see what I'm saying? Yeah. But Michael Knowles, um, is a contributor over at the daily, and he is mostly known for his violent homophobia. But this week he decided to talk about another thing he knows absolutely nothing about, which is race.

And he's saying he can now prove through social science, one of the most beloved tropes of racist politicians, which is, I don't see race. I just, I'm unable to see race at all. The way he gets into the story is because the new coach of the New England Patriots is a black man and he was talking about, he's like, I absolutely do see race because it affects people very deeply. So I do, I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit up here and say, I don't see race.

Like I absolutely do. But for the reasons I'm saying it's'm not gonna sit up here and say I don't see race like I absolutely do. But for the reasons I'm saying it's it's to not discount people's experiences as being on the margins of society or being part of a minority group. So that's sort of his inroad into sort of this next really wild quote you're about you're about to hear from him, where he breaks down he's like, I just don't understand like white like white people just truly don't see

race. I don't think y' white people just truly don't see race. I don't think y'all get it. But here he is in his own words. White people are the only people who do not see color. In as much as that phrase means anything at all, I don't see color. The only people for whom that is true is white people. What?

The only people for whom that has been true ever in the whole history of the world is white people. This is very clear from modern social science. When you ask people their racial consciousness, when you ask people, Hey, is race is your race somewhat or very important to you, every racial group other than white people is above 50%. Asians, Hispanics for black people, it's above 70%. What's the number for white people? 15. White people have zero racial consciousness, 15%, I guess. They don't, they really don't see color. Everyone else does. and everyone else has for all of history, which is how we've ended up in a situation today where white people are the only group that you can discriminate

against by law and according to the mores of society. Michael Nobles. Alex, do you have anything to say? Michael Knowles. Alex, do you have anything to say? It sounds enraging. Even if any of it was true, it didn't make sense on its own thing. He said it was zero white people, but also 15 percent white people at this time or something.

Which one is it? I just can't stand it when people invoke a phrase like, the whole history of the world and then don't cite anything. Well, this is the wild part. Right? Because to start, he's citing this Pew Research study that came out during Black History Month I think like two years ago. It was talking about the importance of racial identity and

how important it is for especially black people, black Americans feeling a connection to a larger group, like a larger culture, that that is that connection is vis-a-vis race and like their the culture of blackness. And then they then they go down and compare that with like Hispanics with Asians, etc. And it was about their again, their feelings of connection to their larger community. And consider like he completely leaving out the part that this is about people that are living in America. Okay.

Because this is a majority white country with many people coming here, whether through coercion, economic, or straight up, uh, just being like, go, go get your ass over here, get on this boat. Like that's, that's, that's, that's a very specific dimension to sort of look at rather than like being like all these people are like, they're, they're like their whole thing, like race matters so much to these people. Like they, they can tell your race. Like that's how he's trying to make it look like and say like for white people, that's just not a thing. And you're. What's blowing me is he's saying race matters. The study was determining if your own race matters to you, not other people's

race fucking matters, make it make sense. What are you talking about? You're not even talking about things. And if this proves nothing, this proves that white people see themselves as raceless, right? Not that they don't see other people's race. And the reason that they see themselves as racist is because they are the dominant race.

So they don't have to be othered. They are not othered. And nevermind, that's it. That's a- I know, but truly to your point, Michael, it's called hegemony, okay? People's whiteness typically has not mattered because it isn't an obstacle for them to live happy.

That's the fuck. Why is that? Because white people are like the people, the respondents in the survey were like, I don't see a race. It's just a different, a completely different experience. And like when you completely leave out the part of like what the experience is for people who are not white, CIS head Christian people in this country, a lot of these other things matter a lot

because they've typically been presented to you as a reason for you to not get a raise or to not get an opportunity or the reason why people don't wanna sit with you or be friends with you and shit like that. So it's a very, it's very like wild to just like look at that and just in such bad faith, like you see what I'm talking about?

15% don't even see race. It's like he's illiterate, at that and just in such bad faith. Like you see what I'm talking about? 15% don't even see race. It's like he's illiterate. Like words don't mean things to him. Like he read those words and decided that they didn't mean what the word means. Right. They mean something else. Yeah. It feels like, you know, again, this is like why this like information landscape is so

bad right now is that you have people because there are people there are going to be white people who listen to this who are like probably beginning to have some kind of feeling of like interrogating or inspecting or having some introspection about like race and it's like has like it doesn't matter like is it is it bad that I'm white am I bad for being white or something and you have people who just want to like dead any kind of real thought there and just be like, no, no, no, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. They're trying to make you feel bad because you're white. And the DEI stuff, that's gonna make planes crash.

Just please stop thinking it's a thing to consider. These people are just haters. Right. And you just need to get past that because guess what? We don't see, we're actually like, here's a study to help you stay in your like place of no growth is We're actually like one of the like the only people on earth where it doesn't matter And I think and that's what bothers people is that we honestly we're just not even capable of having race matter I can't do this. Yeah.

Slippery, slippery, slippery. Yeah. I'm so curious about this guy's like coworkers and his right wing billionaire funded content. Mel or whatever. Do they think he's just doing kind of what the rest of them do for work or is he really going even beyond what they say when they log into the office?

I mean, this feels like part and parcel of what you hear in conservative media in general, which is to always dismiss the idea of racism. Because if racism doesn't exist, then we never have to take people seriously when they say racism is an issue. Because if you begin to entertain someone's criticism or someone's observation analysis about a society,

then you would have to begin to engage with that. But they don't even want to begin to engage with that because they saw what happened in 2020. Some people are like, oh, man, like, should I read a book? Yeah. They're like, I don't read no fucking book. They're fucking tripping. Okay. They're tripping. That's it. And it sounds like the kind of shit that like people when they have like, bad friends, who like, you know, for example, like if you drinking or doing a

lot of drugs, and you're like, yo, I'm actually thinking about like doing less like, Oh, really? Also, you better than us? Not only that, bro, the people that are telling you you got a problem, they're haters, bro, they're haters, and they want to keep you at the same level. They don't want people going whatever outside of that way of thinking. So it's always good for them to just be like, neutralize any kind of critical thought with this. Yeah, no thoughts, just thought killer. Here's a thought killer. We're incapable of it. And racism doesn't exist. I don't know why people keep saying this, y'all. This is so wild to me. Don't you know? Social science disproves that. Don't you know

social science? Right. And then they can go and say that at the next local gathering of people and they'd be like, well, I believe that's actually, we're incapable. And people are going to be parroting this shit straight back to someone who's trying to actually make a point. But yeah, then I'll make it to the RNC stage and then it'll become more mainstream and then we'll be fucked. So, yeah, yeah. Which is wild because with Nikki Haley being like, Oh, you know, like racism doesn't exist or whatever.

Guess Donald Trump has started calling her by her given name, Nimrod to begin to turn up the heat on her to be like, just so y'all know. Stop it. She's not white. She is Nimrata. She is Indian. Yeah, you're like, people, it's... See, Nikki? Watch your motherfucking mouth.

Watch your mouth. Look at it. Don't get cozy with them. Don't get too cute and cozy. Yeah, because I understand the feeling that to be in the in group might feel like it's safe. But the second you are a fucking obstacle or they just need your too much for them, they're gonna fucking throw your ass out. Just like I was talking about Vivek Ramaswamy on the Babylon B, which is like the conservative shitty version of the onion. They're already

making jokes that they're like, Oh, he's gonna be working the the White House 711. That's gonna be his job in the administration. And you're like, Look at how they they're like, Oh, he's going to be working the White House 7-11. That's going to be his job in the administration. And you're like, look at how they've, they're already doing you guys, bro. Like, and I'm sorry, they don't see race though. Yeah. So what does that based on? That's based on the Simpsons. That's what I thought.

Yeah. This is, I have a Simpsons, I have a Simpsons based philosophy. You know, a joke is good if the Simpsons did it and was not even the first to do it. Yeah. Yeah, truly. Very fresh. Yeah. So Michael Knowles, you're trying it, but again, I think this is important to see.

This is the kind of mental conditioning inoculation that they're doing on the conservative side. Because again, honestly, there's so much talk about being like the Civil Rights Act, man, if we can just get that out of the way. And you're like, holy shit, like don't even get the fuck out of here. Stop, Miles, you're scaring me. I literally did not know that this was going on. I'm terrified. People are, I hear this more and more and more,

like when I'm reading conservative shit or like looking at their little fucking video podcast and shit, there's like this real like that's why Charlie Kirk spent so much time with the help of this black man to be like, Oh, here, black man, can you tell everybody why MLK was actually bad? And like, they just, uh, you know, drag his name through the dirt. And you know, that way we can just prove this point that everything that he was trying to do was actually bad. Therefore the civil rights struggle was just for not like it was just a waste of time.

It's dangerous. It's dangerous. Very Yikes. Yeah. Very Yikes. I give that two Yikes. All right. Let's take another break and we'll come back to talk about Blue Monday.

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Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. And we're back. And after I made that New Order joke about Blue Monday, I was like, what was that band like in the late 90s or aughts that covered it and kind of brought the song back? And my younger esteemed guests were like, sir, are you talking about debanking again? What's on your hands? And I'm I'm like no it was in this band they brought the whole wave back It was orgy and shout out to my geriatric Millennials and older who remember when orgy brought the blue Monday song or blue new Damn new order song blue Monday back all that to say

We need to talk about blue Monday the capitalist hoax that continues to persist. I wasn't fully aware of this as a concept. Did you guys know about Blue Monday at all? Alex, what about you? I've heard that phrase, but I think it's mostly because of Kurt Vonnegut's writing. He's referencing an advertising concept for washing machines. You can beat Blue Monday by having easier laundry to do

in like the 1950s. Ah, well again, along that similar vein, apparently like this is something that's really big in like Europe, mostly the UK and in Canada as well. They've heard tell of Blue Monday, but apparently it is the third Monday in January and it is known as quote, the most depressing day of the year and

I'm like, what what does that exactly mean? Like here's headlines from the standard in the UK Blue Monday 2024 When is Blue Monday and how to beat it another headline? It's officially the most depressing day of the year an expert offers some tips to lift the gloom on Blue Monday Blue Monday is coming up. Are you prepared for the most depressing day of the year? So we had it. I didn't realize it was the most I guess that MLK day for us was blue Monday. I'm surprised there wasn't like, oh, coincidence much that Blue Monday is also Martin Luther King Day. The most depressing day for white people. So they're saying, Are you prepared? I'm like, Okay, so what is going on? Now, some of these outlets do admit that there is no actual scientific evidence to back up this premise, this concept of Blue Monday. But also not all of them call out the fact that Blue Monday is just a straight up scam. You're getting bamboozled.

The culprit perhaps is late stage capitalism. This pseudo scientific reasoning behind why, behind why quote Blue Monday is so depressing involves like this actual, I mean actual, I only say that because there are like, like equate like it looks like a math equation, a legit looking mathematical equation, which equates things like debt, motivation, weather, and the time that's elapsed since Christmas as a way to determine that, like to quantify that this is the most depressing day. But even anyone, anyone who like looks at this for like one moment, you'll realize like how the fuck can you even compute? Because there aren't even like shared units of measurement. Like, how do you compare?

It's like saying, oh, okay. A large pizza times the GDP of Brazil equals that Mickey Rooney is actually Billy Eilish's grandfather. Yeah. And you're like, is this metric sands or Imperial sands? I can't figure it out. Right. How do we how do we measure the depression? Whose unit are we using? And I guess the inventor of this equation was a guy named Dr. Cliff Arnall,

who was hired by a fucking travel company, Sky Travel, they're defunct now back in 2005, to basically just contribute to a press release. And they wanted to sell people on the idea that there is a most depressing day of the year, which would then inspire the consumer to consume and to book a vacation, thanks to Sky Travel, bringing this all to light. And he kind of has like some credibility to back up these claims. He's like, Yeah, well, you know, I was a Cardiff University psychologist. But then pretty quickly, the, uh, like Cardiff university was like, no, this

dude was a quote, former part-time tutor. Like, let's not get this like fucked up. Like he was not, that's not what he was doing. And he later tried to walk back this great cultural myth that he created by saying it was never his quote intention to make January even worse for people. He later tried to walk back this great cultural myth that he created by saying it was never his intention to make January even worse for people. And he even admitted the idea of Blue Monday was not particularly helpful. But guess what? That fucking apology was part of another commercial campaign

for a travel company Virgin Atlantic. Please keep fucking with this guy. They said the campaign will encourage the nation to dispel their Blue Monday beliefs and instead embrace the new possibilities that another year can hold. Possibilities like traveling to Thailand or Vietnam or South America. It's just like one of those really, it's just super cynical when you're just like kind of like using this idea that, yeah, winter's hard for people coming out of the holidays

is hard for people having resolutions and like trying to stick to those can lead to people being demotivated, but then to be like, and book your package holiday with us. Wow. Check out Marbella Spain, it's absolutely popping. And the time he also,

he supposedly cracked the formula for the happiest day of the year. He said, Oh, yeah, I'm doing that now. Because he pivoted to saying he was a freelance happiness guru, which sounds like me when I was just like dating a bunch of people and smoking weed. I'm like, Whoa, what do I do? I'm like a freelance happiness. But what do I do? I'm like a freelance happiness guru. What the fuck? It's like a vibes curator.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But if for some reason I kind of respect a vibes curator more than a freelance. I think it's just the wording is just more with our times. Yeah, guru is bad. Guru is bad overall. We have too many gurus, especially on social media. Yeah, vibes curator, you can say you're a VC.

That's kind of nice. Wow. It sounds very up and coming. Yeah, we should be C. Are you a, Sequoy, are you a vibes curator? Do you have that kind of spread? I like to think so, absolutely. I definitely do curate vibes.

Yeah, like I think the same way if I'm having, you know, like a gathering or somebody's like being like, oh, like I want to have like a dinner. I'm like, okay, what are you, like, what are you thinking? Like, you're gonna have a spread a gathering or somebody's like being like, Oh, like I want to have like a dinner. I'm like, OK, what do you like? What do you think? Like you have a spread. Is it going to be like a spread? You want to bounty for people to people bringing their own thing. Do you want to just have it so your guests are like blown away by my hospitality?

Is it a group effort? I feel it could be me overthinking. Maybe that's a vibes curator. A little bit, you know, a little type A, a little overthink. But I never heard nobody. I like that though. I also like to host like that. So I feel it. Yeah.

I mean, I love, can I, that's for the record. I love a spread. Same. When people put a spread out, there is nothing that blows me more away than somebody who's like, you thought of all these other things just to put out here for this little gathering, like these are fine meats. Maybe not cheeses. No cheeses for me.

But yogurt flavored ice creams and popcorn. What's your sprays? It's going to be frozen yogurt and popcorn. Yeah, the fro yo right there. Popcorn, popcorn, you can use some cheese it's some gold. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cheese it's so. Oh, yeah, I like cheese flavor things. OK, yes, but not cheese. How do you think? Flavor blast? Yeah, I like cheese flavor things. Okay. Yes, but not cheese.

How do you think? Yeah, flavor blast? Yeah, I like the flavor blast. Okay. Goldfish. Flavor blast? Oh, they're great. Yeah.

Yeah, the more the better. Okay. All right. I'm just making sure. Are you a vibes curator? Do you see yourself as a vibes curator, Alex? I think maybe. I don't know if I aspire to it.

I think I try to participate, you know But I'm not a big spread builder. I'm more of a spread supporter or like oh good job. Keep it up. Oh Like that. That's But that is good. You are contributing to the vibes in a positive way. Yeah These are all contribute consume or be a connoisseur or a curator. Either way, you do what you got to do. But yeah, the reason why like Blue Monday, it just like sticks around. Like apparently in so much marketing, people are still using it as like a fucking being like,

hey man, like you want to buy a fucking Big Mac? Buy, get the fucking vibe meal and shit. Burger King, that a vibe meal? Anyway, but it seems like the calm might be working because last year in the United Kingdom, online sales are reportedly shot up by 18% on Blue Monday because of all this shit. Like, oh yeah, like, like it's wild how you can get in people's minds, right? Like in America, Black Friday, Cyber Monday, it's like, you better buy some shit. Don't be fucking stupid, fucking around. It's like, you better buy some shit. Don't be fucking stupid fucking around. Black Friday. You fucking dumb man.

Go fucking buy something you don't fucking need because that weird mobile phone charger costs like half off now. Like I don't and I look at me I bought one, but I use it sparingly. Like I tried to I tried to and then like so it's wild that like they're using this thing of like weaponizing people's own like mental health or like seasonal affective disorder or whatever. Like just to be like, oh yeah, it's gloomy to be like, you know what, we'll fucking help you to buy some shit, man. That is so ugly. I don't appreciate being manipulated like that. This is so ugly. Well, you know, what are they going to do? Like deal with root

causes of people's feelings of loneliness, support the pharmaceutical industry if we have to do exactly Oh, what I'm gonna do pay real wages. No, it's blue Monday. Okay. Did you? Did you? Did you buy that? Whatever the fuck? Did you buy that Stanley mug? Okay. Stanley, right? Yeah. Did you guys hear Stanley? Oh man. Yeah. It also just feels fake

that it would be a Monday specifically, is the saddest thing. Like why? I don't know. Tuesdays can be harder and it just, I don't know. I don't find that. Sometimes I'm kind of with you. I think Tuesdays, Monday's like, I get it.

Like just because it's the first day back, but Tuesdays, you're like, fuck bro. It's only like, you do this, you're like, it's only fucking Tuesday. Like it's the other part. Monday But Tuesdays, you're like, fuck, bro. It's only like you do this. You're like, it's only fucking Tuesday. Like it's the other part. Monday, you know, you're like, it's fucking Monday. But Tuesday, you're like, fuck, then there's Wednesday. Oh, Thursday.

You're so far from what we get on a Tuesday. You're like, no, never mind. Let me just put it out of my head right now. We're at Friday today, so we're good. Yeah, exactly. And happy Friday to you. And thank you so much to our guests, our guest, Sequoia B. Holmes.

Thank you so much for joining us. It's always a pleasure having you. Where do the people find you, follow you, listen to you and all that very important stuff? You can listen to my podcast anywhere you listen to podcasts, including YouTube. You can find me on social media at BPLP pod and listen to Black People Up Airmore. It's a fun time. Go see what we're talking about.

Yeah. What are some upcoming episodes you guys are talking about today? I'm talking about the Cheetah Girls. Oh my God. I'm so excited. I love the Cheetah Girls so bad. I recently talked about 13, which was a very dark teen movie that came out in 2003. I don't know if you've seen it.

It's wild. If you have not, please go check it out. I just remember hearing about it and be like, I don't know about. Yeah, it was Eyes and I remember being when I was a kid, but yeah That's a Ravens because I haven't seen it. Yeah, I was like, oh that was all that was in it what yeah Yeah, who's in that in 13? Uh, I've been Rachel Wood. That's right. That's right That was the thing that kind of put her on right? Uh-huh. Yeah

That's right, that's right. That was the thing that kind of put her on, right? Uh huh. Yeah, yeah. And also the one that played, the lady that played one of the vampires in Twilight. I can't remember her name right now. Yeah, Nikki Reed. Nikki Reed, there it is. I learned from your show, sorry. Yes, Nikki Reed. Yeah, Nikki Reed wrote it.

She co-wrote it as a 12 year old or 13 year old. Yo, you know, interesting story. I used to get fucking high as hell with one of the cheetah girls Oh, whoa We were 18, you know, I mean you she had like her fucking hole I remember she would she had her little checks and things and she'd be like, y'all buy a fucking ounce of what she gets for it. I mean, she was smoking. We buy about a pound, she said.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, was not playing, did not come to play. Anyway, Keely, I hope you remember me, it's Miles. I used to hang out with Mike and them. We used to come to the spot all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shia LaBeouf, that was a wave. That was just a whole other era though. Anyway, what is a tweet or other work of social media that you're enjoying?

Oh, I forgot about this. It is Ayo Adabiri and Quinta Brunson on the red carpet singing the Cheetah Girls, LOL, together. And then they put the little fake microphone next to Rami Youssef. Oh, got it, got it, got it. And he finishes the lyrics for the Cheetah Girls and I'm like, gang. And that's how influential it is. Thank you.

Man, because like, what was the other, was it Adrian Bylon too? Adrian Bylon, yes. Yeah, yeah. What was the group that, the 3LW, right? 3LW, yeah. Yeah, because that was the group Keely and them wasn't Adrian came from Yeah, yeah. Yeah. See this. Oh shit This is all because I'm telling you all the little child actors and shit They all lived in the Oakland apartments over there off bar ham in LA and like that is sort of like the nexus point

For like I grew up in the valley so I would always meet these kids So I have a lot the intersection with the Oakland Apartments I have I have so many stories man. That should be its own fucking podcast. Anyway, thank you again Sequoia Alex always a pleasure having you you're always so fun Just a gentleman and a scholar and a vibe contributor and consumer I always appreciate that where did the people find you follow you and what's the work of media that you've been enjoying? Thank you for this spread. It's great. Media I've been enjoying, I got to find a link for you guys.

There's TikTok I saw and I believe it's in Italy, but they titled it Bon Giorno Cat. Because when people say hello to this cat, it meows back three little meows that sounds like, meow, meow, meow, like it's bunch or no, but as me, I know it's very exciting. Yeah. So I got to look that up. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

I love that. One Jordan, no cat. Oh, shit. Here it is. Oh, when they're not. It's so cute. One Jordan. Oh

Man Italy is such a wonderful place You can find me okay. Well first let me tell you a tweet that I like this one is from chase Mitchell at chase mitt tweeted that photo of Donald Trump with his like hands all blistered and stuff and just just put a tweet a quote on I said many people said the fajita played was too hot folks, but I picked it up very easily Some would say too easily I love that shit. Oh no, no, no. And you can find me at miles of gray on Twitter and Instagram. You can find Jack and I on our basketball podcast miles and Jack. I'm at boosties.

That's an NBA podcast and also find me on my 90 day fiance podcast for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Um, and also you can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily Zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Thank you so much Alex.

That was just the alley-oop. You just took it and you put it down. So yeah, be sure to follow us there where you can find things like the song that we're going to write out on today. A song we're going to write out on today is by the artist Lava LaRue, uh, comes from West London in it, you know, described as a funkadelic Brit pop. And this track is called Magpie. I feel like I've heard this song super sped up on Tik TOK because when I first

started hearing them, I'm like, wait, I know the vibe of this song, but I think it's one of those tracks that gets like, either like played at 3X speed or played at like 0.15 speed, which is what I feel like what all there's, it's what the kids are doing on TikTok now. So anyway, check this one out. It's really dope. I really love her sound.

The production is really cool. And you know, just kind of give you some upbeatness as you head into your weekend. The Daily Zyte Guys is a production of iheart radio So for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcasts or just wherever you get your favorite shows for free Uh that is going to do it for us this week We've got the weekly zeitgeist that will just give you all the best bits from this week Uh, and then we will be back monday to tell you what happened what trended over the weekend

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