The Daily Zeitgeist - Top 10 of 2025: #10 AI Coming For TDZ? VP Tea Spill 09.12.25

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, Zyte Gang, and welcome to the end of the year. During these two weeks surrounding Christmas and the new year, we take some time off. During the mornings, we'll run some new holiday and end-of-the-year content that you can listen to while we're taking a break. This year, we've got our review of the year of movies, predictions for the coming year, Santa University. We look back at some holiday classics with Chris Croft and so much good stuff dropping in the mornings. In addition to all that stuff in the afternoons, where we would usually drop the trends episode, we are rerunning the 10 most popular episodes of this year, according to you. You voted with your dang ears, and we listened with ours.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Actually, we looked at the data. We're spying on you. Honestly, I'm mostly in this podcasting thing. For the rich marketing data, it provides to me about each and every one of you. at the end of the year, when I look back to see what made the top 10, and this was actually my favorite year to look back at, our top 10 is full of episodes. I feel like made it because of a bunch of different reasons. There are some episodes that dropped after huge news events. There are some first episodes that dropped right after some hilarious news events, some great new guests, some classic fan favorite guests, and some new formats we tried out. we're very excited to see that you guys enjoyed. Before we get into it, I just want to thank you guys for once again being such a
Starting point is 00:01:34 cool community that's bloomed up around this podcast we've been doing all these years. You guys repeatedly make us proud. You're there for us when we go through some really difficult shit. You show up at shows of our guests and we always get great reports from our guests about our listeners. You are the rare podcast audience that makes us extremely. proud to have you as listeners so far. So don't, don't fuck this up, you guys.
Starting point is 00:02:02 All right, without further ado, here is the 10th most popular episode of the year. The episode's called AI Coming for TDZ, VPT spill with Alan Strickland Williams. It dropped on September 12th of this year, and it was the first full episode that we did after a major news story. Enjoy. Do you ever have that nightmare of like you switch bodies with a professional athlete and so like in the middle of the game and you're like, fuck, I don't know what to do. I feel like when that's happened, I was killing it. Oh, in your dreams?
Starting point is 00:02:39 Pure fantasy. Yeah, yeah. It's only when I'm myself that I'm an abject failure in my dream. Isn't that with a point of dreams so I can not be my failure of a self? Yeah. We're just like anxiety fever dreams. Yeah. another way to another direction you could go with your unconscious.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I'm always fighting this kid who bullied me on this one hockey team and my and my arms are just in sand, dude. Yeah, yeah, that's what I have. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always, like, get in fights and then I can't, like, I'm floating an inch off the ground so I can't, like, run away, which is what I would actually do in a fight. Wow. And my, like, arms are, like, very, like, feels like they're underwater.
Starting point is 00:03:20 I like to fight or flight. My fight is that my arms are. completely just restrained from physics or something and you're a flight, but you're like, I can't get my feet on the ground here. You can't run away from this guy. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of, you know, developing the profile of this beautiful finished product.
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Starting point is 00:04:07 Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the calls.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard, One gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collect at our best past classic holiday episodes. and compiled them into a 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Leveh, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Black Pumas, Alessia Kara, Sarah McLaughlin, and more. Check out my new episode with John Legend. I feel like in a lot of ways our careers are paralleled in some ways, but they just never intersected for some reason. I know.
Starting point is 00:06:22 We're just ordinary people. We don't know which way to go. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 405 episode five of Dear Daily Zykeyes! This is a production of IHeartRadio.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It was a podcast. deep dive into a marriage shit consciousness. It's Friday, September 12th, 2025. Mm-hmm. September 12th, man. Yep.
Starting point is 00:07:02 Never forget. Never remember. Never remember. It's the day after September 11th. It's National Day of Encouragement. It's also a National Hug and High Five Day. National Just One Human Family. This is some All Lives Matter shit.
Starting point is 00:07:17 National Report Medicare Fraud Day. Okay, thanks. Republicans. national video games day okay and national chocolate milkshake day okay i can get a perfect summation of just our country where they're like here you can have video games and chocolate milk assholes but but report medicare fraud exactly we're all watching and also hug and high five somebody and just like let's talk about unity and like keeping it together yeah unless you're doing medicare fraud because you're probably an immigrant and like okay what the why do you have to do that
Starting point is 00:07:48 voice. Does that voice like part of your process? Kind of. I'm going through some stuff. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.K. Potatoes, O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host. Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Greig. Yay, the Lord of Lancashim, the Shillgun with no gun. You know what I mean? Uh, you know what I mean? Also, my denim is so Smelly, I guess I ship my jeans. I messed up my jeans, jeans. Beeser makes them good as clean after I ship my jeans. Mess up my jeans, jeans.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Justin Connor on the Discord. Huh. No. Huh. Huh. Justin Connor on the Discord? He's getting in there? After ruining our episode yesterday?
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh, don't do that. I'm sorry, Justin. Uh, Justin was the one who told us about the, shooting in between the first act and the second act, which is definitely his job. You may have caught a vibe shift in that episode. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:55 Fuck. Anyway, great fucking AKA from super producer, Justin. Got the syllables right and everything. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian and writer
Starting point is 00:09:09 who you've seen doing stand-up in places like your TV and internet. Uh-huh. His debut album, Ran Through, is available on streaming platforms and vinyl, which gives it a nice little warm sound. His podcast, Finding My Audience is available wherever you get your favorite podcast. Please welcome back to the show, the hilarious Alan Strickland William! Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So good to be back, guys. Thanks for having me. How are you all going to have you? Wait, I didn't know your album was on vinyl. It's on vinyl, yeah. Check it out. You can find myself, Alan Strickland Williams. I think it'll cost you a cool $25 and you get to be the coolest person in your building or zip code with a little bit of vinyl.
Starting point is 00:09:56 And if you also don't have a record player, maybe you got a big cup and you could use it as a big coaster. Yeah, bowl coaster, punch bowl coaster. Yeah, salad bowl coaster for generations. You don't have to have a record player. We can get clever with this stuff. It can be a frisbee, right? Oh, hey, you know what I will? I will plug, though, real fast just because you guys have them all all the time.
Starting point is 00:10:21 Chris Crofton. Yeah. I had him on my last episode of finding my audience and had a good talk with him about his album and his documentary. And, yeah, so if any listeners, you know, after you listen to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, fuck it. Fuck it. Just stop this.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yeah, let's go check out, Crofton. We can cut this off. All right, man. Well, where can people find you, Alan? Alan Stricklandorwilliams.com All right, great. Well, it was great having you on, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Everybody, you know what to do. Go listen to Crofton right now on Alan's podcast. How was he? It was great. Yeah, as usual. Yeah. It's very difficult to describe Chris Crofton. It's like, I've tried many times.
Starting point is 00:11:06 It's a experience, yeah. How do you describe the Chris Grafton experience? How do you describe a crisp spring morning? That's right. Yeah. That's what Chris Crofton is. Yeah, Chris Crofton is definitely the closest analogy I can come up with is a crisp spring one for Crofton. I was just going to say, there's, I agree where I heard it, but just like the anecdote that comedy albums like took the world by storm and like at a certain point, like in the 60s or 70s, somebody like had the idea of like, what if we put standup comedy on records and it was like this big fad to.
Starting point is 00:11:43 just like people would have listening parties. People would just like come over and sit around and listen to a stand-up album on their record player. And that's like as jealous as I've been of the past. You know, just being like, no, that's all you need as an excuse to have people hang out.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, hey, I got a new record. You never did that with like comedy CDs in the 90s? Yeah, like informal hangs, like in my friend's basement, you know, listening to like what the hell happened to me or some others. Yeah, they're all going to laugh at you.
Starting point is 00:12:15 That definitely a formative experience. But, like, nobody was like, hey, guys, come on over the press Friday. I just got the new Richard Pryor, you know. They used to call them party records. And they would especially do it with, like, that's how Red Fox got really, really, like, successful was he would put out these, like, incredibly, and they were like, a lot of them were really, really dirty. It was also stuff that, like, back in the day, you would have actually gotten, like, a rest of. for um what's the word decency or whatever yeah yeah right so yeah i forget what movie i think it might be oh brother where arthur but there's a scene where like they go to a family's house and
Starting point is 00:12:55 they're just all sitting around listening to a record and or listening to the radio and just like staring into the middle distance it's like crazy for me to think about that like being a thing that people do and yet no less crazy than like what we do now where we like sit around with each other and look at our phones. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Our own little listening party. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Well, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We are recording this on Thursday, starting around noon. So as of right now, no assassin has been arrested in the Charlie Kirk killing. We are going to just take a look broadly at the difference between how the right has responded to this. versus how they responded to the killing of Melissa Hortman earlier this year
Starting point is 00:13:48 to what appeared to be political assassinations. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about how this is probably going to be one of our last episodes because the Hollywood reporter recently had a piece where they talked to one of the media executives behind, what's it called, Inception, A.I. Inception Point A.I. Should learn the name of your few. future master, who you'll be pleading with to keep your puny podcast human life on the airwaves.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Just one quote from the announcement from the CEO. I'm just going to excerpt this one sentence. And this is a full sentence. It might sound like I'm taking it out of context. We believe that in the near future, half of the people on the planet will be AI. What? What the fuck? Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:14:41 Yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, half. Half of the people will be AI. Where do we at right now? It's a lot. How many billion people on the planet right now? It's a ground eight or AI. Yeah, what, it's around eight point.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Okay, so we're going to have 16 billion people in eight billion in the near future. Yeah, yeah. That's a lot of mouths to feed. Oh, man. They're so, you know, they're so horny for it. Yeah. In the C suite. The C suite has, has the C suite ever been hornier for anything than they are
Starting point is 00:15:12 horny for maybe the dot com it's like the dot com thing i think this is the meta the metaverse thing like that was a web 3.0 but i feel like that was a little bit more yeah i feel like those were more unevenly distributed and like with the dot com boom it was like these companies that were like out there they were like rising up and like getting a lot of attention but it wasn't like the fortune 500 companies of the early 90s were all like if you don't have like a maybe it was i actually don't remember i was fucking a child but like the the way that like apple just like took a hit their stock took a hit because they didn't like incorporate AI enough into their earnings report talking about AI idiot anyways uh we'll talk about that
Starting point is 00:16:01 we'll talk about the new comla harris book is coming where i think everyone's like oh we're going to get some tea and it sounds like there's like some good shit in there I don't know. It's kind of just shit that it's like nothing surprising. She's like, yeah, they all fucking worship Joe Biden and Jill Biden there and whatever. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:16:21 okay. But you know, it's interesting today, though, because the Atlantic put out like an excerpt from the book that everyone's reporting on, now we're getting quotes from like anonymous Biden people who are fucking clapping back.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Oh, I'll read some of those. Yeah. Some responses from them. This is, by the way, a genre of book that according to the people at audiobooks. com is like,
Starting point is 00:16:42 the least finished type of book, which is like audio books by presidential candidates. People buy them and they do not finish them. All of that, plenty more. But first, Alan, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your
Starting point is 00:16:58 search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, so just recently, there's been a bunch of pre-sales for Tame and Paula shows coming up. Oh. And I got kind of screwed, and I've gotten screwed before. These are Ticketmaster, of course.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And so my last thing that I searched was, and the first word of it's very alarming, Reddit, I searched Reddit, refresh, Ticketmaster, or Wait. That's the full thing that I searched. Ah, yep, yep, yep, yep. Because Reddit, for all of its many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many, flaws. It actually is like a place where you can find stuff out every once in a while. You get good human advice, too.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. Someone who is exactly dealing with or dealt with exactly what you're talking about. And they gave me the answer. It told me exactly how to do it. Because a lot of times I'll wait and it says, oh, it'll refresh. But then it doesn't actually put you in the queue. So even though you were there 10 minutes before, now you're in the back of the line and blah, blah, blah. So it's like, I figure out how to do it and it did work.
Starting point is 00:18:10 what you're supposed to do is you get in like 15 minutes before and just keep refreshing even if it's before the sale goes and eventually you'll get a Q code and once you have a Q code then you're good so were you able to get tickets yes I did yeah I was able to get shows at the forum I got one at the show in the forum and it just so happens that I'm going to be in New York City at the end of October when they're doing shows there
Starting point is 00:18:36 and I got a ticket to that one as well oh okay Yeah. Okay, young man. I'm a big, I'm a big, I guess you want to talk about personality. I'm a, I'm a big C, C bands I like multiple times. I didn't get to see Tom Petty that one show before he died. And it's like, haunted me. Yeah, it's haunted me. Yeah, my wife went to that.
Starting point is 00:18:58 I, like, Tom Petty's Florida. Like, I really, and like, it was a type of thing where it was like, I think I might have turned down two people that asked me to go to it. Wow. And so it's just like, that's really, really. obviously haunted me. So, like, I saw Vampire Weekend eight times last year. Nice. That show was really good.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh, man, so good. Now I'm going to see it again, I think, too. But, yeah, anyway, so that's a little insight. No, I do, like, read it because there's even stuff for, like, I remember when I was trying to buy a refrigerator, like, a while back, there would, you get these things where people are like, let me tell you, I'm like an appliance repair person, and, like, this one brand, I rarely see warranty complaints on. And you're like, that's like the legit thing.
Starting point is 00:19:40 It's the fucking information I'm looking for. Someone who repairs it, go, but I never have to fix these ones. And you're like, there it is. Thank you. Thank you, hardworking appliance repair person on Reddit. I, it is interesting, like, that Reddit is that, like, all the, all Reddit is like a shadow version of the regular internet without sponsored bullshit, like, slipped in. So, like, you know, like, when,
Starting point is 00:20:08 you're searching is just that's what the internet used to be is just like a place where the posts are not sponsored by companies trying to just get your money yeah so it's just like what if the internet wasn't like completely and irrevocably broken by capitalism is like that's why you have to have it has its flaws but you have to tag Reddit at the end like because if you search best refrigerator straight up yeah exactly exactly yeah What is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Okay, this is really dumb, but for years and years and years, I have been driving around without a phone holder in my car.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Uh-huh. And I just got one, and we're not talking about these things enough. It's amazing. It's amazing. It's amazing. Oh, my God. Like, literally, I want to say the last time I had one was probably, six-ish, more than five years ago, maybe even significantly more.
Starting point is 00:21:14 So it really is the type of thing where I'm like, wow, I literally had the fuck the other day driver. I was like, my phone's right there. It's just right there. I don't have to look down. Oh, my God. So anyway, I think those little pieces of plastic are pretty underrated. Prior to that, you were just driving around with it in front of your face.
Starting point is 00:21:34 For sure. Yeah. For sure. spot where the holder would be. Yeah. And I had a couple phones. I had the Android item on, like a rude Goldberg machine, Elmague, GoPro,
Starting point is 00:21:47 dash cam, all of it. Yeah. But now I just have the one holder, yeah. Yeah. Always a boxing glove and a boot that's connected to a wheel somehow. Oh, yeah. It's a boot, like on a plunger. Yeah, on a plunger that like spins for it and kicks something. A bowling ball. I'm usually driving
Starting point is 00:22:03 down Banana Peel Lane. is it a phone holder that connects into the air conditioning vent yes but it is also one that has enough space so that it it's like I can still feel the air from that yeah it's it sounds like you got a good one out yeah I got to search Reddit you search Reddit to figure out which one to get no that one I just took I that one I just took a stab in the red dart because I think I think what I think what happened was the phone fell or something. I was like, let me just get one of these fucking things right now. And you were doing the search on a broken phone from heaven fallen.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. Phone holder for a car. And then you just hit the I'm feeling lucky button. That's not even a thing anymore, is it? Oh, yeah. Do they even have? I think they killed that.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Oh, no, they do. They do. Here, I'm going to do right now. Phone holder for car. And guess what? assholes at Google. I'm feeling fucking lucky. Oh, it just fucking feels lucky. It doesn't even give, I didn't realize what it does. It just sends you to whatever the top result. Oh, yeah. Okay. That sent me
Starting point is 00:23:16 straight to Amazon. Uh, amazing. Mm-hmm. Amazing. They should, I feel like they should be like, I'm feeling really lucky. And like, you hit that and you just like get the thing, whatever they want to send you. They're just like, yeah, you just bought that shit. I'm going to put Tame Impala tickets refresh. I'm feeling like, lucky. There you go. Just send me straight to fucking Ticketmaster. There you go. They are good friends at Ticketmaster.
Starting point is 00:23:42 What is something, Alan, that you think is overrated? All right. This is going to be really controversial, and I know that everything's been really calm and hunky dory recently, but I'm going to stir the pot. The arc light. I'm going to say that the arc light is overrated.
Starting point is 00:23:58 I'm tired of hearing about it. It's over. Did you not get our... It's not coming back. Did you not get the email where we said that you couldn't talk? Justin, Justin, stop the recording. We can't do this out. Are you trying to get our show taken off the air?
Starting point is 00:24:15 It's so funny just because I like, I love the arc light because of the innovation of reserving your seats, but then once that became like another, that became pretty much the norm. I'm like, the way people talk about the arc light is like their dad went out for a pack of smokes and never came that. It's just like, it's so, so too much. And also it's just like, I think it's just one of those scenes where absence makes the heart grow fonder because it's like, when you're really in that, that specific part of Hollywood, too, it's just like, we're, we're, yeah, healthy on days. Halcyon days. I mean, where is in Arclight anymore? Oh, they're gone. They're gone. They're out of business. Yeah, this is going to say. I was like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:01 I feel like, isn't there, there's not even one left somewhere? Because I know, like, the Sherman Oaks one's gone. Obviously, Hollywood's gone. No, I think the whole company went out of business during the pandemic. And it's some weird thing, too, it was in American movie theater chain, yeah. Like, why did they? Like, is it, it's like, is it whoever owns the property? Is it like a lease thing or what?
Starting point is 00:25:22 But, yeah. Well, now you're going to get me in trouble because now this is where I start talking about the pandemic. Yeah. Yeah. How how come we don't have the Cinerama Dome anymore, huh? That's right. Where the real truths are being transmitted to us. It is funny because I totally agree that it's like we're remembering it here.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Like we're remembering a version of it at a time when it was like doing some innovative things that nobody else was doing. And now all those things have been like co-opted by AMC. And like that's, that does suck. Like it sucks that we're like AMC did it. You can fuck off. But it is. Yeah. I just don't get what I like, my thing is I'm just like, why didn't, why didn't any like
Starting point is 00:26:05 really rich person just step in and like do like kind of the same way Clinton Tarantino like did with like the Vista or whatever? And also it's like, but, but my, and the reason why I brought up is because just I still hear people talking about it. I'm still always hearing people talk about it. So I'm just like maybe it's maybe it's like true love. Maybe it's like when we finally all collectively like let it go. Then it will come back.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Yeah, yeah. That's right. Okay. I like that. I like that theory. That, like, once you work on yourself. So this is, it's not saying that the arc light is not a worthy, you know, subject of our adoration. It's just that we need to work on ourselves.
Starting point is 00:26:45 Yeah. We talk to talk about too much. Yeah. Look in the fucking mirror. Yeah. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Stefan Curry.
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Starting point is 00:27:15 This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas.
Starting point is 00:27:40 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game. as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming.
Starting point is 00:28:05 My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much
Starting point is 00:28:34 that my podcast called Playing Along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl,
Starting point is 00:28:51 Leveh, Mavis Staples, Remy Wolf, Jeff Tweedy, really too many to name. And this season, I've sat down with Black Pumas, Alessia Kara, Sarah McLaughlin, and more. Check out my new episode with John Legend. I feel like, in a lot of ways, our careers are paralleled in some ways, but they just never intersected for some reason. I know.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the I-Heartonary people. radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys
Starting point is 00:29:57 playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. So we're in the aftermath. You know, this is coming out a day and a half after, you know, Charlie Kirk was murdered. We're recording it less than 24 hours after. Donald Trump is already, like, waged war on anybody who is critical of... Right.
Starting point is 00:30:27 of any and his ideology yeah so yeah just we just wanted to like compare how uh this assassination the like this is something we talked about on yesterday's uh trending but like a real like very horrifying like i don't think like the combination of everybody seeing it like the number of places that it was being shown to people like including the new york times the fact that it's like a person that, I guess he's not like a household name, but he's like, well, like people knew who he was, or at least a lot of people had seen him. And then just like how fucking gory and awful it was was like a really traumatic thing. And, you know, I think it's a potent material that the right is working with. And I think they know that and are like digging in
Starting point is 00:31:19 as much as possible. Oh, completely. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But it's not just like the right. It does feel like the the new york yankees held a moment of silence for charlie kirk which he was a media he was a media guy like that's the other thing he was just like a media guy right yeah and like one that had some pretty horrific white supremacist views so like the fact that like a mainstream institution like the new york yankees is holding a moment of silence when again like comparing this to representative melissa Hortman, who was a politician in Minnesota, who was assassinated. She and her husband and their dog were assassinated in their home by a Trump supporter earlier this year, and the Yankees did not
Starting point is 00:32:11 hold a moment of silence for them. The Yankees statement that they issued on social media couldn't be bothered to mention the school shooting that happened in Colorado, like right at the same time. And yeah, it's just, it is a fallacy, logical fallacy that the right in the United States really likes to play on, which is just selection bias and, you know, only showing and like focusing on crimes and really visceral things that are going to support their political point of view. And, you know, they just pick and choose which victims of political violence they recognize. One thing real quick that I just sort of was thinking
Starting point is 00:32:55 is that with the Yankees thing, it's like that came from the owner. Right. Right. That's not a major league baseball thing. Someone at the Yankees like, we got to do this. That's a guy that probably at some function or whatever
Starting point is 00:33:11 met Charlie Kirk and was like he's a nice guy, he's a family man, we have to do this. I just kind of like, because it is weird But it's like, why would a baseball team comment on this in general? Right. I think it indicates, like, and I was saying this on the trending episode yesterday, is just how much like the now default sort of perspective people have is that of a conservative
Starting point is 00:33:35 or through conservative media. Institutionally, that is certainly the case. Yeah, that's just where, that's the default now. And I think, you know, like even what the Yankees posted, it said, quote, before tonight's game, we had a moment of silence and memory of Charlie Kirk, Kirk founded the youth activist. group turning point USA and become a fixture on college campuses charlie kirk a husband and father of two was 31 years old you're like leaving out all of the details that it's a white supremacist group and and exactly like that rhetorically they're fanning the flames of these of this completely
Starting point is 00:34:09 out of control fucking era we're in um especially with right right wing extremism and the normalization of like white's like white nationalism but again i like i think that's because that's that's currently the default of American culture culture is to be like, well, we don't say things like that. We just look past that and we're just going to say that this is a person and that's what it is. And yeah, I think that's really the thing that was really that struck me was to see the number of like pieces that were written that were like leaving out all,
Starting point is 00:34:39 like just completely obfuscating like what his legacy is in terms of a media personality. Or if you want to like that, even feel is an euphemistic. right or left or whatever, I mean, especially after something like, especially at incredibly, I mean, I saw the video, gruesome, like, very real, very real, very traumatic. There is just such a strong inclination to live in the fantasy world and to not deal with the reality of what is actually going on. So it's like this is a like opportunity for a lot of people to harken back to like a time that uh people are talking about free speech and stuff like that in this and it's like literally what a month and a half ago uh cops are like busting
Starting point is 00:35:29 heads on college campuses because students deign to say we shouldn't give money to Israel like you know it's just like totally totally it's just an opportunity and as we're seeing you know sure we'll dig into this but like I just the thing that really got under my skin was Nancy Mace just like reacting so and yes I understand it's raw and I'm not denied anyone their emotional response to what happened and what they're seeing especially if they knew this guy but they're immediately laying it at they're literally saying this is the Democrats fault yeah they don't they don't know who it is I think they've I think they've released a picture of the personnel but they have no
Starting point is 00:36:11 lead. They have no idea who it is or why they did it. And I'm like, oh, this is what they want. They want this moment and they want to foment it. And they want, it's probably easier for them if the Americans just start attacking each other than if they have to do any crowd control stuff or anything like that. Yeah. Well, I think this is an excuse to do the crowd control stuff that they want to do, which will allow them to not have election in 2020. Surveillance stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but just to reiterate this comparison that I think a lot of people are making, a U.S.
Starting point is 00:36:45 lawmaker, you know, Melissa Hortman, a politician, was assassinated three months ago. Flags were not flown at half-mast across the country. Trump has ordered that all flags across the country be flown at half-mast until September 14th. Yeah. And his social media response to the Hortmouth. assassination back in June, didn't even mention her name, of course, didn't take any responsibility with, you know, the person who committed that murder being a Trump supporter, refused to give Tim Walz a phone call and skipped her funeral and went golfing with Lindsay Graham instead. So it
Starting point is 00:37:28 is just like, you know, the most, it's blatantly politicized. Anything he's saying about, like, political violence being out of hand is only being observed about one type of political violence. Yeah, I think I'm also just, it's, again, the amount of attention being paid to this by people who are like diametrically opposed on the political spectrum to Kirk, it's like very odd to me. I'm like, I don't know, maybe you just give it the same amount of attention that the Republicans give to a slain democratic lawmaker. right there is this sort of like having to prove that they're like there's like a moral high ground but i mean like you know say whatever you need to say but to again like to see people like write
Starting point is 00:38:17 these pieces in the new york times are like i had a lot in common with him like you did in what way and then also be like he was a free speech advocate i'm like can you define free speech advocate like is that to does that mean they fight for everyone's right to free speech or is it was such a big who's such a big part of the abundance agenda. Right. Like what is going on? But again, I think that's what's really surreal, again, is to see how the culture is completely reset and be like,
Starting point is 00:38:46 well, this is the default way to speak about this. Don't mention anything that, like, try and absolve this person of everything they've said and every, like, horrible thing they've said about non-sishead white people. Well, and that's also where we see the, like, yeah, journales and political pundits and other people with podcasts are going to take that tack because in this moment, like, podcaster is like the ultimate, like, thing. It's not, it's not the political thing right now. It's like, it's the fact that this could happen to someone that isn't political, isn't elected, isn't a public official, but, you know, has the ears of
Starting point is 00:39:30 all these many people is a huge platform. It's just a, it's a very hard realization of how muddied everything has become and how obviously this is somebody we already knew, but we're just seeing it in real time, just how the institutions are basically worthless. I mean, literally like the FBI can't catch the guy because there's this fucking idiot that's in charge of it right now. And like, I mean, just that was like live tweeting the thing.
Starting point is 00:40:00 We got someone, okay, it wasn't him. We got some one. Ah, shit, it wasn't him. It's like, what the fuck, man? It's like, why are you playing the crab rave music after that? It's like, we got them. We got them. Actually, we don't.
Starting point is 00:40:13 We don't. I mean, just another, like, kind of institutional thing is that South Park episode was taken down. Really? In the aftermath, yeah. It was taken off of Comedy Central. I think it's still available on Paramount Plus, but. Was there one about this? Wait, or.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Charlie Kirk. Cartman played a Charlie Kirk type character with Charlie Kirk hair. Oh, shit. Yeah. I mean, it was a thing that, like, you know, Charlie Kirk said he thought was hilarious. But yeah, I usually think this is hilarious. But the way that people on the right responded to that was somebody said on X, they mocked him on TV, then they killed him in real life. comedy has consequences, a turning point USA staffer posted on telegram.
Starting point is 00:41:00 The thing is like to get browbeaten like over this when this, it's just obviously you have the intentionally hypocritical people on the right who are like, please tell me about jokes again and what leads to real life outcomes and what doesn't. But I think that's what just kind of surreal too is you just see all of this like someone who you hear their words. and like, this is actually, this is terrifying to hear someone express these kinds of viewpoints to an audience of millions that is meant to essentially make people like me or who look like me, like just subhuman and free to just to slander the good name of innocent people just because they're transgender or whatever. I don't know. I mean, I'm always like wrestling with how America just kind of like, rears its ugly head
Starting point is 00:41:56 but to have like just kind of like to see it almost feel like the tone of the media be like you have to grieve this person right now yeah it's a little it feels like like I'm like what the fuck man I'm the shit that he was talking about is absolutely
Starting point is 00:42:12 terrifying to me right and I'm now expected to like feel a completely different way about a person who says words that are for lack of a better word presenting an existential threat to people like me it's a very yeah he had a he had a family right yeah and i get that and you know and that's the thing i 100 like especially becoming a parent myself i don't wish an untimely death on anyone especially
Starting point is 00:42:38 like what because i think about too i think about the position i'm in and if um i left sooner than i would hope and and thinking of my own children that's fucking terrible but i think you can that can be true and you can also report on the fact that everything this guy still for was really like antithetical to like what a decent America would look like. And this is being used to kind of more deeply ingrain those values into the mainstream of. Right. I mean, no attempt to, um, that's one thing too that I just always go to. It's like, look at what the president is saying.
Starting point is 00:43:13 The president is not saying any sense of unity or coming together or anything like that. No, it's let's get them. It's true. Let's get them. Let's make it worse. And it's just like, all right. Well, I guess that's America. Yeah, okay, 200-odd years later, 300 years later, whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Half the country hates the other half of the country. All right. I guess the experiment worked. I mean, yeah, the 250th anniversary of the 4th of July will be real interesting next year. They look back. Wow, what a time it's been. Senator Mike Lee issued a tribute to American patriot Charlie Kirk on social media. This is the same person that after the Hortman assassination claimed to the
Starting point is 00:43:54 killer was a Marxist and posted a photo of the killer with the caption, Nightmare on Walt Street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. It's, and then, yeah, it took a while for people to be like, what the fuck are you posting, man? He's like, ah, sorry, all right. I'll take it down. I'll take it down. Mikely is Utah, right? Yeah, Mikely is also Utah. And it's, that's the crazy, the crate, the fact that it was in Utah is really nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Like, one of the most conservative, homogenous judge that that is very
Starting point is 00:44:26 didn't have that on my bingo card oh man there it is he said it all right that was my main response to this was it was so random it was so random this year is like the most random year I feel like oh my god this year is so
Starting point is 00:44:42 random so fucking random right now oh my god did you see the ice raids the ice rages are crin and they're like so random you get random you get You know there's a podcast talking like that, too, right now. I think that's most. This year's just been so random right now.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It's probably hosted by all 13-year-olds. And it's fucking awesome. It's so good. It's like that food podcast with those 13-year-olds that's so good. Yeah, dude. I don't know. What do you think of pepperoni pizza? I'm a pepperoni guy, yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:18 All right. I think pepperoni is a little sauce. But yeah, it feels, I mean, they've set this tenor for a long time. So it just, I think in some ways it's easy to dismiss. It's like, oh, that's just like the right wing, fuck your feelings, insensitivity around the killing of a democratic politician. But this, you know, it's, they're very specific in like an event like this and their immediate politicization of it. makes it clear that there is a larger strategy that, you know, this is allowing them to sell this bullshit narrative that the left is solely responsible for political violence in
Starting point is 00:46:01 America as opposed to like rarely responsible for the political violence in America. Yeah. And it's just ironic, too, coming from Republicans being like, you know, you should, you should really respect this person and things need to be done in the aftermath of this when how many times do little children fucking get shot? to death and people like can you pass a fucking law or something like is that and again they're just plugging their ears and just you know whistling past the graveyard like nothing's going on yeah and i think that's just again like all of these ironies kind of really come together to sort of like just present itself as like one big mind fuck in an event like this and be like oh
Starting point is 00:46:41 and now they're going to use this to make shit worse for people probably i just think about the Oklahoma City bombing and like the fact that that was like a right wing terrorist and like right never and it killed like so many children like it blew up like a fucking preschool and that's not like when you think about that event it's not like and that was when we realized right wing terrorism was a problem and like it was just you know a detail yeah of that not even i mean after i mean i what that was 94 right yeah and i just remember i was 10 years old And not that I was like in, I, I watched the news because I was, you know, like on TV and I just would watch TV. But I remember like all of that was flattened into.
Starting point is 00:47:23 And then this guy, Timothy McVeigh did it. Lone Wolf. There it is. Yeah. Boom. And that's it. And then it wasn't until I was like in college. It was like, wait.
Starting point is 00:47:32 Oh, God. He was part of this massive right wing movement. Right. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about why this is probably one of our last episodes. We'll be right back.
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Starting point is 00:49:18 get your podcasts. Hey everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of Beanie Babies, Monopoly, or Yo-Yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing Along is back.
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Starting point is 00:51:02 Gentlemen, it's been a privilege and an honor podcasting with you this evening. Now get out our violins. Yeah. just play like shit because I don't know how to play the violin I would be amazing if like one of the people was just like sorry I'm freaking out a little bit
Starting point is 00:51:22 also I'm not very good you know this the fucking ship is really listing oh man are we still gonna play my hands are so fucking sweaty right now how are you guys playing does anyone have an ox cord yeah
Starting point is 00:51:38 it'd be much easier if I can just play something, some chamber music. But yeah, I only say that, and maybe flippantly, maybe sincerely, because AI I mean, it sounds like they're gearing up to take over the podcasting world, because the Hollywood
Starting point is 00:51:54 reporter recently had a piece where they spoke with the people behind Inception AI and they make just a fuck ton of AI podcasts. I'll get to the numbers in a second. And they try to frame this article, like, in the beginning they're like, God, aren't people, aren't like networks tired of paying like humans to talk?
Starting point is 00:52:11 sort of thing or like paying celebrities deal like these crazy deals i do get what's the most appointing what's the most annoying part of podcasts having to pay the people working that's the worst fucking part am i right ladies this year is so random um but anyway the CEO of this uh i company is a former exec from wondery another podcast network and the jack alluded to her like facebook post that she put it out to like announce this thing. This is the full part. I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share the
Starting point is 00:52:46 public debut of Inception Point AI, the company I joined as co-founder and CEO this summer. Oh my God. Just a, what an open. Sorry. I'm thrilled to emerge from stealth and share this. Like, is such a great way to open any
Starting point is 00:53:02 work of social media. Yeah. Are you join as a co-founder? I think it's because someone with a fuck ton of money goes, hey, we'd though for you to be the face of this thing to give this thing some credibility. You want to be co-founder and we'll make a CEO. Yeah. Because also like, I guess, I guess I haven't heard that phrase emerge from stealth before, but
Starting point is 00:53:23 I know. God damn. A little, little wonky use of that word. I'm thrilled to take off my ghost protocol hood and reveal that I'm, that I've joined an AI podcast company. Yeah. Goes on, as Jack said, we believe that in the near future, half of the people on the planet will be AI. That's when my eyes rolled into the back of my head and I go,
Starting point is 00:53:44 we're cooked. If there are people sipping the AI Kool-Aid this hard, I mean, fucking yikes. She goes on to say, we're bringing these people to life and we're bringing the next generation content business model all powered by AI in the process we built what we believed to be the first AI talent management agency with an extensive roster of fake ass people we created with algorithms. And that's been a thing already, too. Yeah, yeah. We've had these voices, these voice models being created and things like that.
Starting point is 00:54:16 But now they're really trying to like brand each one and be like, and they do all kinds of stuff. So their whole model is essentially to flood the zone with shit podcasts, but because their overhead is so low, they can make a profit on a laughably small number of listens. This is from the Hollywood Reporter, quote, the company is able to produce each episode for $1 or less, depending on. length and complexity and attach programmatic advertising to it. This generally means that if about 20 people listen to that episode, the company made a profit
Starting point is 00:54:45 on that episode without factoring in overhead. Inception Point Air has already made more than 5,000 shows across its network and produces more than 3,000 episodes a week. Wow. And it's been up for like a couple of years, which does, again, beg the question of joining as a co-founder two years in, it's good negotiating tactic, really. I'm going to be the founder then. I could see this being just like a non-starter, because I do think that the thing people
Starting point is 00:55:18 look for from podcasts is humanity. It's like a thing that, like, they're not just necessarily looking for like some quick way to get facts shoveled into their brain. I think a lot of the time, the, you could read an article if you wanted that or like have an article read to you. But I could also see this kind of ruining things because they're going to be flooding the zone with so much shit. That's the part. That's the part right there.
Starting point is 00:55:45 That's the Amazon thing. Yeah. Right. It's just going to be so many bad podcasts, indistinguishable from our bad podcast. But completely, you know, flooding everything. There will be like five different podcasts. The good news is like this is not how people, like people don't find podcasts by being, like, like, all right, I'm going to go to
Starting point is 00:56:06 Apple Podcasts and search for a topic that I think I want to know about. And then, you know, people find out about podcasts and then become loyal followers. Some do according to them, apparently, because their whole thing set up is cool. Podcast topics are selected with the help of
Starting point is 00:56:24 AI based on Google and social media trends. And then the team may launch five different versions of the show with different titles to see what performs the best. The podcasts are often entitled after simple SEO search terms, such as Wales.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Wales. Yeah. It's, I was, I went to their website. One of our most popular episode is Wales. Is whales. Wait. They got whales? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I got to their, I went to their website to just look at what their shows are called, and it's shit like this. Diddy verdict, the British monarchy. Oh, okay. Look, this one's crazy. AI and the climate. crisis? Are you fucking serious? You're fucking with AI and thus contributing to the climate crisis?
Starting point is 00:57:12 Yeah. Like what is that one talking about? Assassins, beaches, bourbon, bunkers, Betty Boop, Chaos, Chuck Mangione forever. China. China. China. Communism. Creatine. There's this one called fucking creatine. Are these all episodes? These are all podcasts. Are these episodes of the podcast? No, these are series. Tell me a one.
Starting point is 00:57:37 I'll click on it and we can listen to one. I mean, I kind of want to hear socialism. Oh, the socialism? Before they take it down. Okay, let's see. This is, uh, this is, this is here what they got. Oh, I'm not signing up, you fucking asshole. Yeah, you need to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:57:53 That's how they get you. Let's see. Which simply means I never forget a vote, a quote, or a constitutional clause. This is AI. No ego. No pack money. Just pure, relentless. recal. Tonight, we're tackling one of the most misunderstood, maligned, and frankly
Starting point is 00:58:09 butchered concepts in American political discourse. Socialism. Here's my question, though. You can, like, and maybe it will get better to where you really can't, but you can tell that that is AI. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're also, they're trying to, they're sort of like trying to be quote unquote ethical, where they have the hosts up top say their AI. Yeah. And one of the founders was like, look, dude,
Starting point is 00:58:35 I'm not trying to have, like, create, like, these models that people are going to have, like, deep relationships with. Because, like, this,
Starting point is 00:58:42 they see it as a completely different lane than human hosted podcasts. But, like, when you look at it, you're like, you're doing, you're talking about subjects that humans currently make podcasts about it.
Starting point is 00:58:53 I don't know how you, you're like, well, no, it's not meant to replace that at all. Like, it's just, we're just doing the same thing they are
Starting point is 00:58:59 out of insane scale. and maybe people will fucking listen to it. Like, you know, they have the hosts, the names are really fucking dumb. Like for the food podcast. I don't know what you're talking about. I think these names are totally normal. Okay, what, name the host of the food podcast, Jack? All right.
Starting point is 00:59:17 The food podcast is named, uh, oh, I actually love her. I actually follow her on lots of different. Claire Delish. And then, of course, my favorite source for gardening info, miles. Mm-hmm. Nigel Thistledown. Yes. Fisseldown.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And the, like, the AI models are, like, it sounds like the same ones you hear on TikTok, basically, when people use AI to caption shit. But again, I believe's in nominative determinism. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like, one of the finance one was like Penny Power or something like that. Just fucking dumb, goofy as shit. But, again, I mean, like, I don't know. Like, will it replace it?
Starting point is 01:00:00 I don't know. But I think, like, to your point, Alan, like, it's bad when you have someone putting out 3,000 episodes a week of indistinguishable bullshit because that just makes it harder for anyone who actually wants to podcast to be, to have to like, there's, now it's just all noise. And now how do you find the good ones? That's like a big part of Amazon's thing is like, it's not that they just are undercutting and they sell the product cheaper. It's that they've also, like, they've taken away a viable way for people to make money. like opening a small business to like sell goods is a bad business idea now because of Amazon and so that yeah that definitely and I mean I will say this podcasters are truly some of the sickest people in the in the sphere of the internet or
Starting point is 01:00:51 whatever like it would be better if they went away is what I think so they're still going they're still going to like go after it but I and it is the type of thing where you do just think, like, well, wait, but what if there are people that aren't just that discerning, and they're like, oh, I'm listening to this, you know, AI podcast, and they don't really, they don't care one way or the other. Right. They were about to, on the socialism one, I could hear the host leading in, too. So pour yourself a glass of your favorite bourbon or something like that.
Starting point is 01:01:22 And I was just like, oh, that is, like, there's a certain type of, like, medium tier podcast that, like, I've accidentally listened to where that's, like, the human element is like so pour yourself a favorite glass of bourbon i've got mine right here right and we're gonna dig in you know so maybe yeah maybe this is gonna hit hit with the people who like listen to whatever those shows are we got a hit we got a hit i mean it's funny oh the co-founder of it who i imagine is the actual founder of it or the person who started it he got into this because in during the pandemic he just started like reading like weather reports and shit um Or no, he was reading daily CDC reports.
Starting point is 01:02:04 And then, like, and then a bunch of people started downloading it. Yeah. Just because he was just reading off a CDC report. And he's like, oh, hey. Now, then he did like weather reports. Yeah. And he's like, whoa, weather report. And then he was like, there's a quote from him.
Starting point is 01:02:17 He's like, you know, talking about how people who are really like, if you have crazy allergies, you look at like the pollen report and stuff. He said, quote, we might make a pollen podcast and maybe only 50 people listen to. But I'm already at unit profitability on that. So then maybe I can make 500 pollen report podcasts. Like these people don't, this is what happens when people who've never made a fucking thing in their life. Why have we never once on the,
Starting point is 01:02:40 on the many, many hours of the show used the phrase unit profitability? The fuck does that even mean? What a cool and soulful term. Yeah, that founder, and you know he is the actual founder, because his name is Pod Founderman.
Starting point is 01:02:57 And so, yeah. Oh, the Cincinnati Foundermans. Yes, of the Cincinnati Foundermans. Formerly of Louisville, Kentucky. All right. So that sucks. But there is some light at the end of the tunnel because Kamala Harris has announced her memoir.
Starting point is 01:03:19 A new memoir. What's coming out, baby, yeah. It's coming. I guess she hasn't announced it. She announced it a long time ago. It's coming. It's called 107 days. So it's like about the 107 days that she ran for president.
Starting point is 01:03:34 Do you guys remember that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all realized like Biden was bad. And then he, we finally like everybody just pressured him enough into leaving the race. And then she had 107 days to run for president and like started with a spark and had like a couple good ideas. And then those were immediately like replaced by terrible shit by the Democratic Party. Had a chance. Their advisors.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Yeah. She, like, had ideas about, like, greedflation and calling the Democratic or the Republican Party weird. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, shut the, why don't you shut the fuck up? Yeah. Here, here, here, kiss Dick Cheney's daughter right now. Kiss her on stage. That's going to work. So, yeah, she's doing some book tours, not at bookstores, but on a live speaking tour,
Starting point is 01:04:28 a major venues. Some tickets going for more than $400, not from like a reseller. That's the official price for a platinum ticket. What a fucking griff, man. That's fucking amazing. Just like, man, that was a, that was a shitty presidential campaign, huh? You want to hear me talk about it for 400 bucks? Yeah. Yeah, I do. I do. I do. The excerpts are pretty telling, I'd say. Presumably, like, people are looking for some tea spillage. And, like, she just really published an excerpt in the Atlantic that defends Biden to some extent, claiming that there was no cover-up concerning his mental decline. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Now, that's where you lost me, Kamala. Come on, no. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's... Come on. You saw some shit. Also would kind of implicate her if there were some cover-up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 In a way, there wasn't really a cover-up because literally, the entire country was like, uh-oh, that's true. All sides of every, like, there were like a few people that, that tried to deny it. But like, yeah, we just chose not to answer your question. Right, right. She also said, and this is the refrain from the Biden side, his debate cluster fuck wasn't incapacity. It was just tiredness owing to recent trips.
Starting point is 01:05:49 And I think, and then add in from Hunter Biden a little bit of Ambien. sprinkled in. So he was, it wasn't incapacity. He's just at an age where he was incapacitated by being a little bit tired from traveling.
Starting point is 01:06:04 He was taking a trip down memory lane. That's right. But also remember that that thing from Hunter Biden and he was like, oh, he was on Ambien and then like, they looked at the schedule. Like, bro, he was.
Starting point is 01:06:19 He traveled like a week before. Like a week solidly before that. But again, Again, like you're saying, like, that's not good if just traveling makes you all tired like that. Yeah, yeah. And you want to be present. If you're tuckered out from a trip like a week later, like that's. That's not a good sign.
Starting point is 01:06:37 That's like me. I'm tuckered out from a trip a week later. But like, I don't want to be present. I would be so bad at being present. I'd be so fucking sleepy. What would you do if Putin comes up to you and says head or gut, Jack? And I cry. I cry.
Starting point is 01:06:52 I cry. I don't know about it. You guys are so mean to me. My superpower, crying my way out of things. Well into my 40s. It would be interesting that, like, the American president with a completely different strategy from past American leaders,
Starting point is 01:07:05 openly sobbing pathetically as a way to get, as a way to get deals. Just, like, stop, like, invading them. Like, what the hell? All right. Jesus, stop fucking crying, man. My God, you're going to get snod on my suit. You promise? Taft.
Starting point is 01:07:23 present taft big cryer big cry yeah but yeah there are other things too where she's like where she is sort of like look
Starting point is 01:07:33 there are a lot of times the right wing media was attacking me and they just didn't say shit the White House didn't have my back at fucking all and you're like absolutely accurate
Starting point is 01:07:45 like the energy coming out of the Biden camp during her run for president was like I don't know her Ha, ha, ha, not so easy to have a candidate who doesn't suck shit, huh? Like, you know what I mean? Like, they were just, like, praying she was, you got a sense that at least a large part of them.
Starting point is 01:08:04 Maybe there were two wolves inside of them, and one was rooting for her. But another was definitely hoping to see her fail and be vindicated for thinking that they had a better shot than her. Yeah, yeah. There is another thing that she said, too, quote, it's Joe and Jill's decision. We all said that, like a mantra, as if we. we'd all been hypnotized. The stakes were simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have should have been left to an individual's ego and
Starting point is 01:08:29 individual's ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I guess like there's really nothing in here that isn't that's like shocking to me. I'm like, yeah, of course they hung you out to dry. Like that's, I mean, this part, which I think we knew already worse, I often learned
Starting point is 01:08:46 that the president's staff was adding fuel to negative narratives that sprang up around me. One narrative that took a stubborn hold was that I had a chaotic office. an unusually high staff turnover during my first year as vice president. I do remember that coming at a pretty critical point. And like that wasn't coming, like they wouldn't have posted that
Starting point is 01:09:05 if that was coming from like J.D. Vance. You know what I mean? Like that was coming from someone inside an administration. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's fucked up. A lot of the two,
Starting point is 01:09:17 it's like the Biden cognitive, whatever cover up, this about how, his team was mean to her all of it just reads is like the democratic party has no idea what the fuck it's doing and like if if this is what like and i don't know i i to me she feels done like i feel like i feel like as like a populace we're done with her she also i think feels done like i don't know if she would run again but if she does if she does you know maybe but like i'm I'm just like, if this is what we're still talking about, it's like, we're fucked.
Starting point is 01:09:58 But, yeah, relitigating, yeah, the obvious, like, why did we lose? Like, guys, is it really that much of a mystery to you? Right. I think that's the only reason this story is of value is just to further drive nails into the coffin of the Democratic Party. Right. Just like, guys, look how bad it was behind the scenes. Like, we all thought that they had a chance because we were hoping they had a chance.
Starting point is 01:10:21 behind the scenes, they were blowing it. Yeah, it's a capitalist clown show. And they don't know, they don't realize how their devotion to capitalism and the status quo was really its whole undoing. And now it's now that I now seeing the quotes from the Biden administration people that are like giving quotes in the aftermath of this excerpt. I'm like, now I believe everything she says. Like one person said, quote, vice president Harris was simply not good at the job. She had basically zero substantive role in any of the administration's key work streams, and instead would just dive bomb in for stilted photo ops that expressed how out of depth she was.
Starting point is 01:11:01 Wow. Holy shit, dude. That's what they're saying now the day after this came out. President Biden was not the reason. You think we're mean? Actually, you're fucking stupid. Yeah, you're actually fucking dumb. That's not refuting what we're saying at all. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Nobody likes you, but no one's going to tell you that to your face. but nobody actually likes you. They go on to say, quote, President Biden was not the reason she struggled in officer tanked her 2019 presidential campaign or lost the 2024 campaign for that matter.
Starting point is 01:11:30 The independent variable there is the vice president, not Biden or his aides. Damn, son. And you're like, that's like the best I've seen them at being, like, critical
Starting point is 01:11:41 and having a backbone. They can't, they couldn't do that against Trump. They couldn't, yeah, it's just, but there's other quotes too that back,
Starting point is 01:11:50 which he says, another aide or staffer who spoke in this one article, I think, let me just make sure it in the New Republic, said that, quote, we all know that the Biden folks treated her and her team like shit. We never thought she would actually say anything. Staffers across a range of ages and positions that I'm talking to are proud of her. Yeah. So there's clearly like, I mean, again, it just shows a very divided administration. And I think that was really probably became clear as Biden just sat on his hands after October 7th
Starting point is 01:12:21 too. Right. So, yeah, we will see where if this harms her career, because you have other people being like, well, she just nuked her career. Really? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I mean, like, I feel like the type of people who say that, who are like,
Starting point is 01:12:37 play it safe politically always have proven that they have some of the worst instincts in modern politics. I mean, like, think about like Anthony Wiener you know what I mean who went to prison like he's even trying to get back in yeah you know so it's it takes a lot to get it through to these people that it's like hey maybe you cooked yeah i don't think yeah i don't know if only they had like some blueprint of a path forward that
Starting point is 01:13:04 had a lot of public support like a new york mayoral candidate who was dominant and extremely popular that they've chosen to completely ignore and try and fuck over well it's like the thing where It's like, it's like, say, like, the, like, the Democrats are like, like big Pepsi people. And they're like, no, it's Pepsi for everyone. Like, everyone likes Coke. And like, no, no, it's Pepsi. It's like, I look at the fucking numbers, man. Everyone, nobody's drinking Pepsi.
Starting point is 01:13:30 Numbers are tainted. And like, they can't even fucking admit it. They're just like, like, fuck, like, no, none of them are backing Zorn. Like, you're like, what the fuck is going on? That, I mean, again, it's just like, I, I, I, I've just never felt more done with the Democratic Party as a whole. I'm just like, I don't know what you want for me. I want nothing from you guys, I guess. Yeah. This is just crazy. Yeah. Seems bad. Well, Alan Strickland Williams, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zykeyes, as always. Where can people find you,
Starting point is 01:14:02 follow you, all that good stuff? Find me on Instagram, Alan Strickland Williams. I'm totally Allen. On Twitter, on TikTok, I think. Alanstrickman.com is where you can find show dates and links to the album and links to my podcast and links to all my social stuff but yeah listen to the new episode of finding my audience with chris croft in by my album ran through keeps supporting the daily zeitgeist and you know what also just just keep going hey all right just keep on going just keep going just one one foot in front of the other you always say the most random stuff all that we got So I'm not chopped, am I? I feel like this is the first time
Starting point is 01:14:46 that we've had you on that we haven't commented on how great your hair is. So I do just want to slide that in real quick at the end, some of the best hair in the business. Do you have any videos of you riding in a convertible? I actually do have a video of myself in a convertible. On Adult Swim, you can watch the last open mic at the end of the world.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Hell yeah. Is it in slow motion? This guy got everything. It was during the pandemic. They did a comedy open mic for adults when Megan Kister did it. And it was, you did it from your car because it was the pandemic. So I rented a convertible to do it. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Perfect. I think I wore the drive jacket, too. You took a year off the life of the sound person on that special, I have to assume. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:32 I saw this tweet. You know, this was yesterday. So I know it's weird. with the timing of the episode, but this says, t'was the night before, this is September 10th, twas the night before, this is from at Jason Mustian,
Starting point is 01:15:45 and it's just a picture of a plate of cookies and a picture of George W. Bush. Plus the night before. Yes. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media? You've been enjoying. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. Find me on 420-day fiancé, talking about a 90-day fiancé with Sophia Alexandra. Let's see. Is there a thing, a work of media that I enjoyed? Not really. I think I was kind of avoiding the media, to be honest. Is there a work of media you've enjoyed avoiding?
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yes, all social media. Oh, social media. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I will avoid social media. Just in one thing, Josh Furling. or at jafra.byskydust social posted i guess the main thing i'm learning this week is that lots of elite media people knew charlie kirk personally and didn't know any minnesota state legislators seems to be the case uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien on blue sky at jack
Starting point is 01:16:54 obi the number one i liked this uh i think i've shared this before but this is uh kirb vonigate on buying an envelope this is uh rosalind margley's responded with this quote to a post from ZEC, ZEC, which said, order your groceries, saves an extra one to two hours a week, compounded, that's 50 to 100 hours a year. A whole week worth of work you gain. I promise that that time is more important
Starting point is 01:17:23 than the $10 delivery fee that was from Zek. And then Rosalind Marguerlees tweeted this quote from Kervon to get on buying an envelope. Oh, she says, well, you're not a poor man, you know, why don't you go online and buy a hundred envelopes and put them in the closet. And so I pretend not to hear her and go out to get an envelope because I'm going to have a hell of a good time in the process of buying one envelope.
Starting point is 01:17:47 I meet a lot of people and see some great-looking babies and a fire engine goes by and I give them the thumbs up. And I'll ask a woman what kind of dog that is. And I don't know, the moral of the story is we're here on earth to fart around. And of course, the computers will do us out of that. And what the computer people don't realize or they don't care is we're dancing animals. You know, we love to move around. And it's like we're not supposed to dance anymore.
Starting point is 01:18:13 Preach. Kurt Vonnegut, I guess. Pretty good. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zytegeist. We're at The Daily Zykeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom of the description, you will find the footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.
Starting point is 01:18:38 We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, oddly enough, I was just watching the latest Tame Impala video for the track Loser that's going to be on the album, Deadbeat, and what's the guy, Joe Kearney, the guy from Stranger Things? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's in it. It's nice. It's like, it's like so East L.A. It's like the whole setting is like such east side, Los Angeles, just on this one little, like, corner market.
Starting point is 01:19:10 But I'm also a big Kevin Parker fan, and I'm really looking forward to this album. So, you know, we'll keep teasing these songs out in drips and drabs, but this is a loser by Tame Impala. Yeah. Shout out to music videos, by the way. Paul Thomas Anderson was like talking about his new movie, which he shot in like some old school form of like film that hadn't been used in a long time. I think like panorama vision or some Panavision? Panavision. And he was like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:38 I like made a music video a couple years ago and like used it and it was like fun as hell. So, you know, like people are doing cool stuff in music video still. It's just like nobody has watched them in years. Anyways, we will link off to that
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