The Daily Zeitgeist - Top 10 of 2025: #9 Vladimir, STAAHP! Oscar Voters Getting SCREWED 04.25.25

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

We are counting down the top 10 episodes of 2024, as voted by our listeners. At #9, we have:  Vladimir, STAAHP! Oscar Voters Getting SCREWED 04.25.25 In episode 1853, Jack and Miles are joined by the co-host and Executive Producer of X-Ray Vision, Rosie Knight & Joelle Monique, to discuss… At Least Less People Are Down For Trump’s BS…, Vladimir STAAAAHHHP, The Academy Just Realized That Oscar Voters Should Probably Watch The Oscar Nominees and more! At Least Less People Are Down For Trump’s BS… The Academy Just Realized That Oscar Voters Should Probably Watch The Oscar Nominees 'Were they just voting on vibes?’: Oscars’ new compulsory viewing rule sparks backlash Films made with AI can win Oscars, Academy says LISTEN: Persuasive (with SZA) by Doechii WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hello, Zyte Gang, and welcome to the end of the year. During these two weeks surrounding Christmas and the new year, we take some time off. During the mornings, we'll run some new holiday and end-of-the-year content that you can listen to while we're taking a break. This year, we've got our review of the year movies, predictions for the coming year, Santa University. We look back at some holiday classics with Chris Croft and so much good stuff dropping in the mornings. In addition to all that stuff in the afternoons, where we would usually drop the trends episode, we are rerunning the 10 most popular episodes of this year, according to you. You voted with your dang ears, and we listened with ours.

Actually, we looked at the data. We're spying on you. Honestly, I'm mostly in this podcasting thing. For the rich marketing data, it provides to me about each and every one of you. at the end of the year, when I look back to see what made the top 10, and this was actually my favorite year to look back at, our top 10 is full of episodes. I feel like made it because of a bunch of different reasons. There are some episodes that dropped after huge news events. There are some first episodes that dropped right after some hilarious news events, some great new

guests, some classic fan favorite guests, and some new formats we tried out that we tried out that we're very excited to see that you guys enjoyed. Before we get into it, I just want to thank you guys for once again being such a cool community that's bloomed up around this podcast we've been doing all these years. You guys repeatedly make us proud. You're there for us when we go through some really difficult shit. You show up at shows of our guests and we always get great reports from our guests about our listeners. You are the rare podcast audience that makes us extremely proud to have you as listeners so far. So don't, don't fuck this up, you guys.

All right, all right. Without further ado, here is the ninth most popular episode of the year. It's called Vladimir Stop! And Oscar voters getting screwed by being forced to actually watch the movies. It is with Joel Monique and Rosie Knight. It dropped on April 25th of this year. Enjoy. Hello.

How's it going? Good. No yawning, Rosie, no yawning. Come on. Oh, I'm going to be no yonings. Wow, policing the yons are. NYZ, no yawning zone. Guys, I was having a little nap while you set up.

So the yorns are. That was a full 12 minutes. Yeah, plenty of times. I'm just doing a lot. I'm doing a lot of yawning. Okay, I'm doing a lot of yonning. I'm just into yawning in 2025. This show is pretty boring for the guests.

and we're using triggered because they do yawn while we're talking something. I brought that into this. You know, I appreciate the rule. Now I understand the depth behind it. I'm sorry, I'm a fragile male podcast. Well, those words are redundant. I'm a male podcast. I'm a male podcast.

I'm just a guy. I'm just a guy who makes a phone car. I'm just a guy standing here in front of a girl. Please start fucking yawn. Don't fucking yawn. Hey, not the first time. Not the first time. Why are you yawning at me?

Still yawning at me. I'm trying to tell you something really important times. I'm just yawning. Sometimes they're not yawning at you. You're just like waiting for your wife to wake up and yawn just so you can yell that at her. She's yawning to me. You're boring. I'm not.

Oh, what are we yawning at today? ever listen to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How was that not a story we all know? What's this you? Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you?

From Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players comes Crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists. And me, Roy Scoville, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city? And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands of angry, horny monkeys.

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dot com please enjoy responsibly dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us two brothers one devout household two radically different paths Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest ranking law enforcement officers in texas 32 years total law enforcement experience but his brother larry he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy he was the head of this gang and nobody was going to tell him what to do you're going to push that line for the cause took us under his and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming.

My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the brothers Ortiz on the... iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fell and started screaming.

If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said through shot 22 times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you.

I got you, I got you, I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Golubski, I said, you're going to see my first. face to the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

you get your podcast. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 385, episode five of DirtyEly's A Geist, a production of IHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's Share Consciousness. Never heard of it? America's shared consciousness? Nope. I'm unconscious.

Oh, no. Yeah, yeah. I try to be. It's much easier, much easier. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just kind of sleepwalking. Just a mix of fast food and cannabis, you know.

That's how I reach the next plane of existence. There you go. Not storing memories. I find that helpful. It is Friday, April 25th, 2025. Yes, yes. The double two five. This won't happen again.

for another 375 years. Okay. It might happen next month. Sorry, I'll happen again next month. Sorry. Yeah. Well, I don't know. Hey, you never know.

The world might end. So you might be right. That's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's also, but actually today, April 25th is National Historic Marker Day. So, you know, pay respect to those historic markers you see on the road that are like,

here is the, this place where history have taken place. National Hug a Plummer Day, National Hairball Awareness Day for all you feline fans. I feel like those are both. those are related hug a plumber because of the hairballs in my shower oh yeah this is for cats this is more for cats hairballs yes yes yes yes a health a health concern

National DNA day National Arbor Day Shoutout trees national zucchini bread day National telephone day do we even use telephones like that anymore? Oh yeah constantly I'm just always at my at my corner waiting for the pay phone to ring you know

remember you see that happen in old movies I was like how is that the plan Yeah, that you're going to get a call on that public phone. Yeah. I used to know the pay phone number at my elementary school. Amazing. Because that was a fun thing is have some one call. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, that's it. We had a, like, at a dorm that I lived in, there was a public phone that, like, your parents would just call. And people would be like, you're, like, come find it. They're like, Jack, it's for you. Exactly. Exactly. History is crazy kids. Jack, pick up the phone.

Anyway, also, the hairballs in my shower are also a health hazard. Yeah, okay. Yeah, good. Don't clog your drinks. My name is Jack O'Brien, A.K. J.D. went and killed the Pope. J.D. went and killed the Pope. J.D. went and killed the Pope. J.D. went.

You kind of can see where it's going from there. That one, courtesy of Geraldine Rice on the Discord. Super producer Victor sent this. article to the chat yesterday. Did you guys see the quote from J.D. Vance when asked about being one of the last officials to meet with the Pope? He's like, I thought a lot about that, actually. It's pretty crazy, actually. Obviously, when I saw him, I didn't know that he had less than 24 hours still on this earth. It's like, in fact, that's so obvious. You feeling the need to say It makes me want to take another look at that assumption that you didn't know he had less than 24 hours.

I didn't realize my skin would burn when I touched him, though. I wasn't expecting that. I didn't know he would gasp and say, I've never seen such evil before and fall into a deep coma. Crazy, dog. Anyways, my life is like a movie dog, dude. The same movie joined. And as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray.

When Zeitgeis was in podcast land. Let us fucking go. Contractions no day shall not spend. Let us fucking go. Shut on Halcyon salad, because, yeah, we don't fuck with contractions, and it sounds better when you say, Let us fucking go! Let us fucking go!

So let us. Let us. Let us, please, shall we? Anyway, Halcyon salad. Thanks for that one. And apologies for my Louis Armstrong impression. But sometimes you've got to dust off the old vocal cords. I mean, I feel like that is putting a time limit on your podcast and career, whatever it takes to do that.

That feels like that hurts. No, no, no, it's great. It's great. It's great. It's no problem. It's annoying to everyone in my home, though. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by two of the people behind the amazing nerd culture podcast X-ray vision, brilliantly talented executive producer and the award-winning host, respectively.

Please welcome Joelle Monique and Rosie Nye! Some people like to call us IHeart's Home for Fandom. Oh, I like that. We're trying to find out. There we go. That's us. We're the home for the fans. Come America.

Yes. We are behind us. I heart's home for fandom. Hell, yeah. That's what some people are saying. Some are saying. Many are saying. Insiders.

You're right. You're right. Definitely many. We're on the many costs for now. Many have said their Iheart's home for fandom. How are you guys doing? What a time for fandom. What a time to be alive.

We dubbed it IP-Mageddon. We are in IP-Megedon right now. The best name I could come up with. No, you killed it with it. April to, April to, may is has been wild last of us and or sinners obviously like unbelievable smash it very glad that just coming off a daredevil and white lotus which we're considering they're saying sinners and or the last of us uh but you mean and or and or if you want to pick one or the other that's also

fine but yes and or the critically acclaimed disney television program by Tony tone zone Gilroy of Michael Clayton found the the tone zone you've been taken to the tone zone

we're there every day I love Michael Clayton I love to get taken to the tone zone trust me we're talking about Michael Clayton too much and both the podcast

and in real life like me Joel and Jason in one group chat you're going to be getting a Michael Quillating that was the other pitched tagline for the show we're talking about

Michael Clayton maybe too much many people many people say they are the home for too many Michael Clayton references. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, just, I want to be, I just want to be off like that dude and Michael Clayton.

Yeah, I mean, they take care of everything, you know. The white glove treatment? I mean, they just come in, they take care of you. Lay it down. They, top to bottom, handle everything. We handle it. You won't even know. Check their watch as your pulse is fading.

Yep. And there you go. That is one of the wildest. Like, that scene is. written on my soul. Oh, yeah. So dark. It's the clinical nature of it.

It's because you're like, oh, they've done this. They've done their 10,000 hours of set up deaths. They're like the Beatles when they got back from Germany. Spoilers for this movie from 2007, guys. It's a hit that happens in the movie Michael Clayton that is clinical and also feels very realistic. And yeah, I feel like in a in a Boeing era that we're living in, you know, you're thinking about it all the time. You're like, wow. Also, Tony Gilroy, like, just an unbelievable talent, you know, not only is Andor a really fantastic television show.

But he also wrote the cutting edge, like the ice skating movie. And he said Michael Clayton, it's like, what can this man not do? Born legacy, cutting edge, we've been talking about it. Me and Jason, we talked to Tony about it last season. and I'm sure it will come up again. Devil's advocate, like, Armageddon. It's just like, he's doing all kinds of stuff.

You know, he's a great guy. And Andor is, yeah, it's like a masterpiece, but. I mean, one thing that can be said about Miles and I with a number of A.K.A. As we've had so far as, oh, I have so many names. Those are devil's advocate reference. Thank you. Oh, deep. Holy shit.

Wow. Wow. We are locked in. We are locked in. All right, we're going to get to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Trump's approval rating. Being in the shitter?

Yeah. Am I reading this correctly? Yeah, S-H-I-T-E-R, yeah, shitter. Yeah, yeah, the shitter. Vladimir, stop. Stop it. Stop it. Vladimir.

He's a steely negotiator. that tweet really I am not happy with the Russian strike on Kyiv not necessary and very bad timing Vladimir stop 5,000 soldiers a week are dying let's get the peace deal really was giving Ellis

and diehard another really old reference but where he's talking to Hans Gruber he's like Hans babe put away the gun this is radio not television come on come on like just I had no idea who he was dealing with up to this moment

Stop. Oh, my God, stop. Why are you being so crazy? Sounds like a husband trying to communicate with his wife on Facebook. Please, babe, turn it down. Be like, Dad, this is public, please. Yes. Yeah. We'll talk about the new Academy Award rules that seem onerous to me.

They seem too harsh. It's really hard. What happened to just copying the Golden Globes? Yeah. You know? I don't know. The time-honored tradition. Right?

We might talk about. media literacy, we might talk about the fire festival, all of that, plenty more. But first, Rosie, Joelle, we do like to get to know our guests a little bit better by asking them something from their search history that is revealing about who they are. I'd like to ask you both for that. And then I understand that you've decided to trade off the overrated underrated. Yes. Well, Rosie, can you go first on search history? Yeah, I can because today I was looking up the very exciting laws around internet safety when you work for a large corporation. So I was searching exciting things such as, I'm like a hundred years old guys.

I'm looking in my history. I'm like, where's the search guys? Like, I don't remember the acronym. But okay, I'll tell you, this is a good one. Currently in my search history, I do have my training, which I was trying to learn about different kinds of important health and safety. I also have a Reddit for what do people give out free at K-pop concerts because I was making a present for my friend who loves K-pop.

And what's the other most interesting history thing? Wait, what do you mean give out free at a K-op concert? Oh, okay, let me educate you because I too. I'm like not a young hip person anymore if I ever was. And basically at K-pop concerts, and I'm sorry to the Taylor. Swift fans, it was there first. It is very common for the young girls and the young people who go to these shows. They make fan photo cards of the K-pop idols. They switch kind of all kinds of merchandise. People will take plastic cups. People will take those light sticks. And when you

go on Reddit and you look at freebies on concerts, because I am just a dad who looks up everything on Reddit. They're just these unbelievable halls that these girls get. when they go because there's, you know, 20,000 people there and they're all switching around little bracelets with their bias on it or with the name of the band. So like the Taylor Swift bracelets. It's kind of like that, but like more extrapolated to multiple different kinds of merchandise. And a big part of like K-pop popularity is these things called photo cards where it's just like a little photo of the idol and they trade them kind of like trading cards. So yeah, I was looking up that kind of stuff to arrange a cute surprise for a friend.

And I was really learning a lot, as I always do when I go on Reddit and ask a question that 140-year-old men have asked before me. My daughter's going to a K-pop show. Have you tried just going to Google and asking their AI? Absolutely not. Oh, okay. I'm just as a person who spends a lot of time on the internet and who writes a lot of articles and does a lot of journalism, the moment that that came up, I was like, I have to pretend. it doesn't exist. Because otherwise, at one point, I will look at it because I'm busy and I will get

got, and suddenly I will be writing something completely factually inaccurate. I'm like, I got to stay to the sources I know, the sites I know. And mostly that has just led to me just going to the thing, like comic book, movies. Because you can't, you've got to ignore it. Google's been completely broken for, like, years now. And now they just have a thing that's like, what if we just like took from the top five results that have been wrong for years. Yeah.

Should you? Should you be? This is my first old man yells at Cloud moment where my kids, don't look at the AI. It's terrible. The answer is so frequently wrong.

And it's really terrifying if you're a person who really enjoys people reading because I feel like it's just reducing literacy, like comprehension by even more and you're just like, it's just, Google is just, it used to be so accurate. You guys remember when Google was good?

you always go over there and find what you were looking for so far most. And Alta Vista was good. Oh my God. Well, I mean, I remember using Ask Jeeves, guys. I used to have a butler, a personal internet blogger. That was the beginning, though. That was like the bansiest I've ever been.

That was kind of the beginning of the AI creep, though, because with Ask Jeeves, I remember it was totally set up to be like, rather than a search term, like, you're asking a person. Yeah, yeah, exactly. In a conversational way. But, I mean, the more I look at, like, AI and I hear like men talk about it. It's like, dude, like, you can actually do therapy. on there. I'm like, I'm now convinced AI was just created so men didn't have to appear like

they didn't know anything. No, I think that you, I think it was, that is one of the biggest problems with it is it is exactly that because I didn't realize in my, you know, naivete as somebody who's just too old to have been suck it into it. Multiple friends that I have who work with people who are in their 20s are just constantly catching them using it. Like it has become the go-to so quickly to just put something through chat UTP or ask them a question, and then people come on the internet as they always have done and act like they are an expert source. But the funny thing is now they are getting it from like a, before you might have gone to a fandom site, like fan sourced media and archival spaces are really, really important and have for a long

time been like at the heart of a lot of genre fandoms. But you would go there and you would read someone else's thing, you would maybe do some research or maybe you just quote it from Wikipedia, but now you're literally just quoting something wrong. Like nine times out of ten, that AI answer is going to be absolutely incorrect. I was looking up something about the technological safety. I'm really sure I'm making this corporation feel great. I obviously have all the lingo down. But don't worry, I will never put a USB stick where it doesn't belong, guys. I know that much. The big thing that you learn in those trainings is if you find a USB stick in the parking lot.

Don't load it up. Don't just take it up and plug it directly into your computer, as I had been doing for Ubi. And also outdated because whose computer even still has a USB plus. Exactly. No one, they've taken that away from us. I had to go and buy a dongle for $30 for Best Buy. I'm so curious what this USB stick in the parking lot has on it.

But like even during that, while I was trying to understand a bit more about like these different legislations that have come in in the last 20, you know, since 20, 15 or whenever. Every time I would be Googling to try and understand more about it, because I'm like, if I'm going to do the training, I may as well actually learn something. So I googled it. And then they are legit giving me like the incorrect answer and information in the top, while the correct thing is in the, you know, the answer below. And that I think as well, Joelle, you must know, you must know this feeling. Me and Joel both came up like doing, you know, journalism, entertainment journalism and stuff.

And if you wrote like a big deep dive interview or a law piece, five years ago the best kind of feeling of achievement was if yours was the first answer on Google, you would be like, okay, I'm the most sighted. I'm ever, like, this is me. Now I'm like, that better not fucking ever quote me

in that AI because it means I definitely got something wrong. Right. Yeah. I mean, it just general, like it's, AI is a perfect replacement for men and that they just created a machine that will give an answer that isn't correct very confidently. It's like made by men for men to replace men. And you don't have to struggle in public.

Exactly. Because you can quietly just, you know, to like refer to your phone and even for fucking therapy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I know, and like, I can see that there are potentially non-malicious applications of it. But like, when I see the amount of people, like, reflects. like just think that that's the answer that's what that's what spooks me out yeah uh joel is there something from your search history that's revealed yeah it's so funny you bring up k-pop because i was getting up black pink tickets i like i like jenny she's cool uh everybody loves la lalisa she's

pretty sweet rose got her little uh tippapata song that i'm doing it's like maybe i'll see the girls that song is everywhere it's literally taken over my feet and I was like, well, maybe I'll go, but tickets were more expensive than I paid for Beyonce. And I was like, oh, shit. I can't, I don't, I think I can't do that. I can't. So I'm just going to wait. There's still a ton of tickets left, though.

So I'm like, maybe closer to the concert will look around. I was going to say, what about this, Joelle? This is not an advertisement, as I am not sponsored. But I do enjoy the game time app where you can buy a ticket like two hours before a show and it's like 20 bucks. That was what happened with Beyonce last time. There was all these people buying floor show. tickets for like 60 bucks during the renaissance tour like as long as you're like a couple of hours away so i think you've got the right idea wait now i haven't explored the game time app yet but let me

download it because i'm also looking at floor seats for the wmba games when those start back up you know i've been wanting to go i haven't you yes because rosie it was you you were you were and i was like i got to go check these things out the wmba you can buy because the sparks ended up as the lowest team if not maybe one of i think it was the lowest ranked but, and I went to the last game and it was unbelievable. The girl, I just wanted to cry. She was like, I'm so sorry, we'll do better, like the captain of the team. And I was like, no, you are amazing.

Like, it's okay. None of us watching this are professional athletes. But that's, like, it's okay. Like, you didn't do it. They were cheapest. They had, uh, when I emailed to find out about the season tickets, they had season tickets that started at like 400 bucks for like not terrible seats. We're about to be at the WBA all the time.

I just think it's a big place for the queer girlies to like hang out. meet one another, see amazingly tall Amazon women dump on each other, like I'm just really here for it. I will add another selling point, which is when I went, two of the girls had a fist fight. It was Brittany Griner and one of the girls from the Sparks, and they got in a fist fight, and they literally had to stop the game, and they both got ejected, just straight up ejected. It was pretty sick, I'm not going to lie. A sports fight is a top tier. I've never been to a sporting event where there's been a fist fight, but if there's one happening, and I'm at, like, I'm on my feet immediately, I'm like, let's go.

Let's see. I just love. I don't know fighting IRL, but sports are not real life. That's it. Those are billionaires punching each other. Somebody's writing for our entertainment. Somebody's writing a script somewhere. It's like, just let them fight.

That's fair. I feel like there's a lot of, there's a lot of bloodlust right now in the sports fandom. Like, there are a couple of NBA series that could have a really good chance of in round one of the NBA playoffs of going, spilling over into, street fights and everyone's like yeah yeah oh yeah put it right in my veins it's like the same reason people watch hockey they just want to see somebody beat someone else up right yeah that's the same reason people go to the to see any kind of large slightly dangerous event is like oh what if it went wrong like there's a human curiosity there yeah and you're right 2025's bringing out the bloodlust oh yeah what if the horses and the Kentucky derby started fighting each other okay that would be sick though I would

I don't want to see the animals fight. Put up your jubes. Put up your hooves. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and find out what you guys think is overrated and underrated and get into some news. We'll be right back. Have you ever listened to those true crime shows and found yourself with more questions than answers? And what is this? How is that not a story we all know?

What's this? Where is that? Why is it wet? Boy, do we have a show for you. From smartless media, campside media, and big money players comes crimeless. Join me, Josh Dean, investigative journalists.

And me, Roy Scoville, comedian, as we celebrate the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. We'll look into some of the silliest ways folks have broken the laws. Honestly, it feels more like a high-level prank than a crime. Who catfishes a city?

And meets some memorable anti-heroes. There are thousands. of angry, horny monkeys. Clap if you think she's a witch. And it freaks you out. He has x-rayed vision. How could I not follow him? Honestly, I got to follow him.

He can see right through me. Listen to Crimless on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product with every sip you get a little something different. Visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com or your nearest total wines or Bevmo.

This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentleman's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz,

became one of the highest ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry, he stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the calls. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming.

My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who would you call if the unthinkable happen? I just fell and started screaming. If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way.

I said through you shot 22 times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable.

Detective Roger Goloops. spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galuski, I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back.

And Rosie, we do like to ask our guests. What is something you think is underrated? Wow. I'm so sorry to everybody listening to this, because as Joelle knows, it is essentially my job to love underrated stuff on X-ray vision. I am the only fan of the Marvel's Eternal movie, which I thought was wonderful, hard sci-fi.

So, and that has been my cross to bet. I am sitting in my Marvel Eternals gaming chair that I bought as a troll on a discount at some point and has now just cemented me as the number one Eternals fan. But that's not what I'm going to talk about, because it's actually finally slightly rated because of Letterbox and Disney Plus. I'm going to tell you about the most underrated film franchise that you've never heard of, and it is the Vivica A. Fox produced and starring in 27 movie long, Lifetime franchise called The Wrong Movie Franchise, or as I call it, the wrong franchise.

Every single movie is directed by David DeCoto, who is a gay A.E. Schlock director, who is most known for horror, but has moved into the TV, made for TV movies space. He is very well known for a really, one of the worst movies ever made. It's generally recognized that as called a Talking Cat, which has Eric Roberts voicing a Talking Cat. And it is like a Perennial Midnight movie classic now it's insane but the wrong movies are very simple they are women in peril as we call lifetime movies nine-act structure and every single one is called the wrong cheerleader the wrong real estate agent the wrong coach the wrong cheerleading coach assistant like they get more and more niche as they go and they are really fun schlocky bee movies and vivica is amazing and she also owns her

and wig company so she's always got those nice wigs on in the movie which lifetimes of movies do not often have. But the best part of every movie is about five or six movies in. They realized that they were kind of onto a camp classic. So at the end of the movie, when like five people have been murdered by whoever the wrong person is, Vivica like turns around and she goes, I guess you hired the wrong real estate agent. And it is incredible. And they made 27 of them and they stopped making them about two and a half years ago. But I'm like desperate for them to bring them back. Because it is, I think it is, I think Lifetime movie, this is my pitch, my general underrated lifetime pitch, it is the contemporary B movie hub of the world, which that crown may be

being taken by Chuby Originals now, but it has been for a long time, like 80% of their movies in 2022 were directed and written by women. So it's also a space where the numbers of people they get to make the movies are like so much more diverse than you would think. And it has movie K, A, Fox basically like doing a campy bit at the end of every movie. So go and watch them, guys, the wrong movie franchise. My dream is to make a podcast called The Wrong Podcast, where I just rewatch them all with Vivica and talk about the masterpieces. What? Yeah, so it looks like they ended on 26 and 27. The wrong life coach was 26. Exactly. The wrong obsession, which I don't know, that could be

anything. I feel like there's plenty more. That's too vague. Yeah, it's a little vague. I have a spec script that I wrote because I was so obsessed with them. That's just the wrong, the wrong publisher and she's like a Kathy-esque like female cartoonist right doing strip comics but her editor is like becomes obsessed with her and then tries to steal the comic and I'm like guys you're going as niche as like the wrong real estate agent I think we can move it into like publishing comic space like that's the next they did the wrong they did the wrong cheerleader and the wrong cheer captain so they're they're willing to there's I think they even have wrong cheerleader coach exactly Exactly. There's multiple. Lifetime movies love cheerleaders for some reason.

This is my, the $3,000 Jessica Fletcher question because Jessica Fletcher is a character, you know, the star of murder she wrote, is a character who it doesn't really, she's a mystery writer, but it doesn't really make sense that 90% of the people she's ever met get murdered or are involved in a murder. her town has a Cabot Cove where she lives. It's just like, if you live there, you're going to get murder. Yeah, it's like Detroit and Cabot. What is the reason that Vivica Fawkes within the movies is involved in so many murders? They did learn from the murder. She wrote trope. And while they could have made Vivica the same character in every movie, that is not the case.

It is not like a shared universe because most people who watch Lifetime movies just turn on. Vicka Fox is in it. They're just going to turn it on. So sometimes she is a main character. I think the wrong real estate agent, she is the one who gets the real estate agent who becomes obsessed with her. But often she might just be like the head teacher of the school. So it depends as she goes. And they're always different characters. It is not like Jessica, obviously the murderer Fletcher. And I watch that show like religiously. There's a 24 hour free murder she wrote channel on Roku TV. So that's like one of my ultimate work. But yeah, her and Jessica Fletcher and the guys from midsummer murders.

Like, if you ever see them, just don't just leave. She's the angel of death. Jessica Fletcher is the angel of death. Wow, what a gig for Vivikey Fox to just be like a supporting character who's there to just turn around and be like, looks like you picked the wrong high school sweetheart. Exactly. It's miraculous. You get to do the Horatio from CSI Miami line every time and throw the fucking sunglasses on or off.

Oh my God. I would love. And they, like, do they do a freeze frame? Yeah. But I'm sure they don't have the budget for the who for these movies. So it would just be like, get a sound alike. Do a sound alike. Instead, they got the who?

The whom's? The whome? Joel, what is something you think is overrated? I feel bad because I'm sure this has been on your series before because it's basic A.F. But I think leaving the house is overrated. Oh, great. It's good to leave. It's good to go outside and touch grass.

you want to do that. But sometimes I feel like people are very, they're too excited about me. There's so much new out here. I'm like, but I perfectly curated the internal space of my domicile to comfort me like a womb so I can rest and reset

my physical and mental being. And I just feel like we don't appreciate the protective spaces that we've created for themselves. Stay in the house sometimes. Sometimes talk to no one. I just really think alone time by yourself decompressing is not valued like it should be and we should course correct.

I think it depends on how important it is to you. I can't socialize unless I'm alone for a significant period of time. Got to recharge the social battery. Yeah, like I'm like an extroverted introvert, I guess. Like people will be like, whoa, like when you're like, like you like to talk and you make jokes. I'm like, bro, I have to then go into my fucking Dracula coffin basically and be like, I'm going to six hour I'm like besties, it's a six hour

max of like this energy and then we're done. Yep, that's why I love hanging out with Joelle and like being besties because both of us if we're just like, I don't have any energy anymore man. Like I'm just out. We'll be like, cool. I'm also going home. Like this is great.

I love to cancel a plan or just or we'll just stay in one of our houses and just lay on the sofa there. Rosie once hosted a haunted sleepover where she got us some great movies little popcorn bowls a plushy which was so cute and she made us little beds

and we were just cozy watching horror movies in Twilight Zone and honestly I was seeing something the other day that was like I can't date men because my girlfriends take me on better dates and this is exactly what I mean I guess this was peak date for me. That sounds amazing. It's so true like my friend one of my besties Annie

she texted me and it was a tweet that someone had done or it was like Why can't you, like, just find a man and settle with a man? And it's like, because my friends text me like this and it's like, oh, the love of my life, the soul that I was meant to have. Like, how can I go one day without seeing your face or hearing a voice note? Like, you light up my life and it's like, and you text a dude and it's just like, K, period.

You awake. What's going on? You're getting the, yeah, you're getting the Caldrago, like love like you are my moon and stars. That's just how girls talk to each other. It's fantastic. It's lovely. All right. think you made your case. I'm never leaving

my house again. Yes, does. Let's get into some news. Let's get into some of the reasons that we might never want to leave our houses again. Great Alleyoop, Joel. Look at that. Just pure leading. You're a producer. You could never question it. So one of the things, like, as we're watching everything go to complete hell around us, one of the things that I, my brain

always asks is like, is everybody else seeing this like this is like this is bad bad right like this where we all think this is bad turns out not everybody but Donald Trump's approval not not in the greatest place no in being like I'm the most popular president of all time yeah he has a current approval rating of 40% after 100 days that puts him at the lowest ever since the era of polling only second to Donald Trump in 2017 keeping himself company down there.

Yeah, exactly. You know, you got to stay sharp, baby. You know what I mean? You always got to push yourself. That's the odd of the deal. Yeah, exactly. And I think like, yeah, to your point, Jack, you're like, because usually like the Republican base

when you poll them, they're like, no, I love everything and this is great and this is how it's supposed to be. It's, you know, the things are trending downward in a consistent way. Now, granted, more Republicans obviously approve of what Trump is doing. than not, but only by about, like, there's a solid 33% of Republicans who are like, no, I don't know what this.

Why did he do that? Yeah. I thought he was going to make the other countries pay for the tariff. How did this ever have impacted me? I thought he was going to take away the bad immigrants. Oh. I was a good one because I got in. Oh, so the places where he's really just truly fucking up in the eyes of the American public, obviously is around inflation.

and tariffs. That was about only 33% approval rating there. And I think most people who understand that, you know, we toil under capitalism with the promise of maybe retirement based on our stock market gambled retirement funds that we get. They saw those take a hit and are like, what in the fuck happened here? Like that was just, I think, just so tangible for people in a way that you couldn't just culture wore that away, that he's definitely hurting there. Then on the economy, just overall record. low, record low approval rating on the economy, 38%. This is, these are all coming from a Fox News poll, okay? Like, this is as friendly as you're going to get in terms of like Trump polling. Then with Outlook, like so 71% of respondents said that they rated the economic conditions negatively. 55% said that conditions were worsening for their families. That's, yeah, those aren't great. The only place that polling is above 50% for Trump is on.

Yeah, is on kidnap, I mean, immigration. Oh, fuck. But even those, but, but even those numbers are trending downwards. Like, you can see it's way different than February to now, because now more people are seeing the methodology and they're like, what the fuck is like this, all I'm hearing is just horror stories. And just disappearing people with, you know, no regard for due process or, you know, their status seems to not be the winning combination.

that he thought it was. Naturally, Trump responded to this poll on his favorite, about his favorite TV show with anger. He said, Rupert Murdoch has told me for years that he is going to get rid of his Fox News Trump-hating fake pollster,

but he has never done so. His money-making venture? Stop it. This pollster has gotten me and MAGA wrong for years. Okay. Take away truth social. That's just like, I think he's funny

and I like his, like, cat-y, like, slights. But also, like, he just doesn't need to be, just put out a press release, bro. Like, no more truth social, no more responses like this. He only pushing me over the edge. He only, yeah, he only speaks in shit posts, unfortunately. So that's, he's fluent in that. Talk to the people.

Get right in there. But I mean, like, when you put this against the backdrop of all the else that he, like, Trump is taken in the court of public opinion and in the literal courts, like, already, a judge knocked back the sanctuary city funding ban that Trump was trying to enact. said he has to bring another person back from El Salvador, like, just in, like, the last hour, you know, then you have Musk been an utter failure. Yeah, I love to see it. It's a total fuck up.

The courts keep ruling against him. He's angered his own base with the tariffs. Measles is well and truly back. And he couldn't even pretend he had the nerve to really even start a trade war with China. And obviously the Russia thing, which we'll get to in a second. But, yeah, I mean, we're seeing, like, sort of the same Trump in terms of, like, his personality and what his level of commitment to, like, fucking things up. Do you guys think we could get lucky?

And he could just be like, I want to do this anymore and just quit. Oh, I've been waiting for that. His kids have been, like, hinting at that since he ran. They're like, you need to do this. Like, he's rich. Yeah. I mean, he's been, he did just pump and dump, like, the entire American economy. So hopefully he's made enough money in that that he could kind of back.

Exactly. Because, like, I just feel like there's only going to be. much money you can rinse from this, bro, before something happens. So I'm like, just speed it up. And like Joelle said, let's just, you can go live in Mar-a-Lago or whatever and just leave leave us be. Oh, yeah. Golf till you're dead, buddy. Just leave me the fuck alone. Golf till you're dead. I mean, to your heart's content. Yeah, yeah. So your heart stop beating. I mean, until your heart's content. So your heart can't take it anymore. To your heart just can't take it because you love golfing. Yeah, just so filled with love.

I mean, I feel like you could almost feed him to death like a goldfish. Like, not that I'm advocating for anything. Are you advocating for the killing of goldfishes? I would never. I'm saying that that could theoretically happen by someone cruel, but, you know, I'm sure he has too many, like, dietitians around him just being like, sorry, sir, that is the 75th Diet Coke of the day. That's your limit, buddy, come on.

Contractually, we have to stop you. You need to take one cup of water for every five sodas. Come on. No. I don't like the way. I feel like he takes shot glasses of water. Like you have to, you just got to cram that shit in that. He does like very dehydrate it at all the times.

Oh, yeah, that's getting desiccated. Yeah, it is. Perfect. Yeah. Cruelty to poor people and people in other countries has always been a lagging indicate. Like, I feel like Americans, just having lived through the George W. Bush administration, like, that was a thing that we were like, how are people still on this shit? And then pretty swiftly, it takes like a good year. And then people start being like, this guy seems like a fucking idiot.

And he's like also really cruel to everybody and killing everybody. Yeah. So we'll see. America just loves to do that. Like the fact that Guantanamo and Abe never got shut down, even after everything that happened, is exactly what you're talking about. It's like there's some kind of lagging understanding of like other people. people's humanity. It's just this, it's the unfortunate privilege of being so insulated in America that it's, it's completely abstract to people. And it's only until, what happened to my 401k?

Yes, exactly. People are like, oh, so now that you got touched. Yes. You have, now you're waking up, because you didn't have the mental capacity to forecast any of this, probably because you didn't give a fuck. But now you are forced to. And now you're like, well, who did I get angry? Yeah, your fucking guy, bro. Like, I just saw someone posted like a Facebook post or some Trump's word. He's like, sir, I bought a, uh, a handcrafted guitar from the UK and was asked to pay $1,600 of tariffs on this. I do not understand as a veteran why I should pay when I am purchasing an item from a

luthier, uh, in the UK from an ally, sir, I will be protesting. I am with you. But this cannot say it's like, hey, dumb fuck. This is, this is always the fucking deal. Also like every, I, this is the. The tariff thing is like kind of pushing me over the edge because many times you can say that people were not well informed. They didn't have the right research. They didn't have the right information. There are many reasons people vote different ways. I'm not here to judge them as someone

who has a green card and cannot vote. But the tariff thing is killing me because actually I saw every single day from podcasters to news anchors to random people just having conversations in coffee shops explaining to people that you will be paying the tariff. Like in this time I'm like this is this is the one where there's no plausible deniability. No, they're paying. People were coming to you

and saying, hey, that's not how tariffs work. Don't listen to him. Even some Republicans, you know. And I'm just like, guys, this is the thing. Like you did it. You were so sure that everyone else was just lying to you and only Donald Trump was telling you the truth. Right. Like, I'm sorry.

Like pay those tariffs because you fucking should have listened. Yeah, this, I mean, the thing with all, especially what's happening now, I mean, it's different than 2017 in that, like, they had a lot of time to warm up for what they were going to do the second they got in office and knew exactly what, what sort of, you know, support systems they wanted to kick out immediately. But then they also brought into this administration the mentality of the previous one where they believed that some issues just American people weren't paying attention to and didn't care about. And they're like, it's going to be fine. Like, we'll be able to do all this shit. They won't even fucking notice.

but this is a completely different version now. And now they're having like the shock of being like, they, wait, they normally didn't care about this kind of stuff. Like they just like the economy or whatever. They just like the concept of it rather than how the methodology on how we improve it or not. But yeah, this is, I do see, I do see an opportunity for classic Trump grift on his base, like where he's going to fully walk back the tariffs and potentially stave off some kind of catastrophic recession. Yeah, and then claim victory.

Yeah, and be like, and I saved everybody's money. You can thank me. That's why I need four more years. It's like, but you are the cause of it all to. Right. We'll see how quick the memory fades. It's going to be interesting to see if, because the, like, the New York Times and a lot of mainstream outlets have been, like, granting him wins where there are none.

Like when he's like, Trump gets, Trump gets a concession from Mexico. and, like, agrees to pull back tariffs. I was like, no, they just said that they were going to give him a thing. They had already said they were going to give him to Joe Biden, like a month ago. But it allowed him to claim victory. Like, I wonder if they'll do that again with China because China is not even pretending. Like, China is just like, we're not even talking to this motherfucker. China said now with Korea and Japan and they were like,

do you know, how much you must have fucked up to get the three of them together. I know. They do not usually get along. No, and I understand because he can unite people in it. But I think that Miles, you struck on the true annoying, most annoying thing as an observer about Trump's art of the deal. And many people have noticed this, but I'm going to coin it in loser nerd terms. Joelle knows one of my most hated things is what I call Walking Dead storytelling. And it's when the TV show would take five episodes to solve something that could have been solved in a,

conversation in the first episode where you start the story. And that is Trump's art of the deal. He's like, he foxed it up. He does something that really like honestly ruins people's lives, whether it's this horrific deportation or anything else, like tariffs. And then he comes back and gets a slightly worse deal than what happened, you know, five hypothetical episodes ago, five months ago. And then he's like, look at me. I saved the day. It's like, no, sir. I'm like, you are the one who started us on this path of destruction. And now we have a worse. deal than we had before. But he gets to say that he did deals.

So that's cool. He's president deals. He's also, I mean, the one thing that I think nobody can deny is this guy is tough when it comes to international stuff. I mean, the way he is having to beg Putin and say pretty please on Twitter is so tough. That's the, I feel like that could end up being like one of the ways that his whole stance of like, I'm the only one who can fix this. Only my conventional wisdom is right. Every other thing anybody has said is wrong is like his approach to Putin being like, yeah, yeah, like we're

on Putin's side. We'll give him whatever he wants. Like that, that is so obviously wrong for so many reasons. Like Putin is an autocrat and, you know, militarily is just looking to, you know, conquest. He's Like, you know, we've seen this before throughout history. And the thing that works is not going out of your way to appease that person. Appesement was a strategy before World War II. And it is not looked upon kindly. And just like, yeah, I don't know. This last thing where as they're trying to do peace talks, Russia struck Kiev with like the biggest attack in like almost a year.

And he's like, hey, Vladimir, stop. Like literally, it's a real, this is a trick. You're going to give him a phone call. On social, apparently he's not taking his calls because he, on true social says, Vladimir, comma, all caps, stop. 5,000 soldiers a week are dying. Let's get the peace deal done. Just, I don't know.

Imagine, like, talking to a bond villain like that. Yes. He's literally a bond. Like, I don't know if you guys have seen his house in the mountains. It's like a... How do you describe this? It looks like a brutalist architect designed like a villain's slayer. It's overseeing a giant forest.

It's isolated on top of a mountain. It's all white. It's very crazy. I think it's kind of interesting to me. Trump is, like, the popular girl at school. You know, like, he thinks he's on top and now, like, he's trying to figure out how to talk to this guy to get him to listen. It's insane to me because

Putin's never listened to anybody in his entire existence. And the fact that he thinks he can maneuver because I think I've been reading a lot about narcissists lately. Yeah. And I, one of the things that people think are like, the narcissists are not trying to be cruel. They believe their delusion.

Right. And to think you know who else has been reading a lot about narcissists? Vladimir Putin. The entire Russian military and intelligence apparatus literally yeah yeah just tell him he's right dude he'll fucking do anything yeah that's and i think that's the wildest thing is that we have gotten into a situation where there is almost like too much transparency like we want the fake version of this where it seems like there is some kind of safety net around the idea of who the president is and things the president can and can't do

which I have learned since moving here in 2017 is essentially a trust-based system with like no laws and it just depends what the person wants to do which sadly for Democrats is usually nothing and for Republicans is like become an authoritarian government but it's like the the mechanics

and the machine are no longer there pretending like Trump is sent a strongly worded letter to Putin and he called him and told him don't do that you know instead it's just like he's on he's on his own weird Twitter jute sounding like, you know, a cat. Like a baby brother or something. Like, stop pulling my hair.

And also, like, who believes that that's going to make Vladimir Putin stop? Like, are his followers? I want to know what the support rating is, like his polling numbers are specifically for like, do his followers actually think when he posts that that he seems like a cool, big tough man? Or does he just seem like the little baby brother? Like, stop, please. Well, I think some people are like, he's trying to be tough.

man. I read that as Vladimir, stop, you know? And that's how I, that's how I read. That's the, that's the ambiguity about text. You know, you can, you can put any kind of meaning on top of it. But yeah, there's, like, to your point, he does have this thing where he's constantly having a reckoning with reality versus what his own expectation is of how people are going to receive him. And like, even with, in regards to like Zelensky and making a deal, he's like, okay, asshole, let's make a deal. You're going to get, fuck all. You're going to cede all this territory to. Russia and you can't join NATO and you'll give us all of your rare earth minerals. How does that sound? And he's like, no. And he's like, fuck. And now suddenly he's like, fuck. Vladimir stop.

Trump's got to watch Andor. There's some good messages in there for him. Like power doesn't panic. It's like the main lesson from season one. There's some good lessons in there for season two for him. Don't actually. Please don't tell. They will watch and they'll be like, you know what I learned from

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Sorry. I wouldn't wish this job on my worst enemy. these people. So the Academy of Motion Pictures, Arts and Sciences, have updated their rules for next year's Oscars, including a bold new requirement. Boilers need to watch the movies they're voting on. What?

It must do that. You mean like all of them? Yeah, like, that's the crazy thing. The Academy's app will track members viewing to ensure they've watched all the nominees. And if they saw it somewhere else, they have to, like, say where they saw it. And I know, is the form?

the form going to be like you've got to get it notarized by someone at the screening to be like they really did watch this movie they didn't walk out halfway i saw it on like friday at the amc i think is like that gonna be enough which one which one six i don't know all these tickets are digitized if you're going to a festival you got your digitized tickets and go to the amc trust me you're an and cubs members you're part of the academy okay you got you got you got it right there so you you can your phone you can pull it up at any time there's it's never been easier and then you just sign in when you to your academy screenings. This is so long. It's egregious

to allow people to vote without having seen all of the zones of contention. That's crazy. Rosie, Rosie, you're from the UK. I mean, do they have the voters for the BAFTAs do such an absurd thing? Impossible, Miles. You may be shocked. You may be shocked

to know that BAFTA has actually been doing it. No. I know can you imagine? Rosie. Which I actually think there's something really interesting for somebody more data-minded than me. I'm a vibes guy. I know what comic book issue someone arrived in, but I'm not good at maths or data. But I think there probably is a very interesting data-based piece out there or exploration of what the differences in the BAFTA and the Oscars

have been over that last few years where BAFTA was actually having to watch every movie. Because sometimes there are some big sea changes at the BAFTAs when a movie will suddenly take like 10 awards but then doesn't do anything at the Oscars and I wonder how much that correlates with the fact that people just weren't watching the movies which I think is very obvious with pretty much every year of the Oscars is like there will be something where you're just like how did that get in like why is that what won why wasn't it through the best parties babe exactly they said they said they said so charismatic I succumbed to all the billboards on sunset

I think about those billboards all the time. It must be so weird as like an LA lifer. Because when I drive past them, I'm always like, oh, yeah, this is just for the execs. Right? This is where there's 60 people in the city. So that 60 people will say, oh, they're spending my money. Like, this is where the money goes. It's on this giant billboard.

And it's completely wild because you end up kind of they live style, seeing through what at first is like a very glamorous, glittery experience. of like, oh, for your consideration, for your consideration. Wow, like, they're really pushing this actor I love. But actually, 90% of the people who are voting for the Oscars are probably, like, not even going to notice that billboard. You know, they're going to say, Zadz, over here. Zazz, over here.

The billboards just start directly addressing them. Yeah, Zazloff. Hey, Zazlo! Whoa! Don't fire the guy. Don't fire the people who, uh, who greenlit sinners. It's a miracle. Don't do it.

We're watching Fleabag. We're watching Fleabag. Over here. Avert your eyes. Avert your eyes. The, yeah. For people who aren't from L.A., there are just like a next level billboard campaigns. Like, really like, well-designed, aggressive. Like, there will be like, you know, a billboard with like things popping off of it. Oh my God, the 9-1-1 billboard that's by LAX where it has the people, it has like mannequins coming out of a 3D roller coaster. That show started like eight years ago, guys. Like, why is I, I'm happy it's still there.

But, like, that's the level of, of dedication they have for letting it. And then it'll be, like, continued on another billboard, like, across the street. Right. Yeah. I'm surprised more accidents don't happen over there. They're very, like, eye-catching and huge and sometimes not subtle in the text part. You're just like, this. What am I looking at, really?

It's bright as hell if you've ever driven down sunset. Guys, do you ever play Grand Theft Auto? Yes. Yeah, obviously. Yes. And you have those, like, really horny billboards in the main part. That's, it's exactly right. It's exactly that vibe.

Yeah. Well, I think the other thing is, like, Angelino is like, we, we've just, we're just numb to them. Because they've been around all the time. It's like, for your consideration, blindness. Yeah, you're like, I don't know, bro. It's a fucking bunch of bullshit on the street. And I don't give a fuck. I'm trying to get to my job.

Like, fuck all this. I definitely, like, feel that especially about the barrier sunset where there's, like, where the, the rainbow lounges and where all of those spots are because there is now basically a permanent almost a block where Netflix will always do the most insane adverts. So whenever I'm over there for work, it's like the stranger things like scary monster and there's like smoke coming out of it and when Millie Bobby Brown was in a movie called Damsel that nobody watched, there's like a giant Millie Bobby Brown with a sword and I'm like, guys, it's just like a photo op like a use, is this where you're spending our extra

money every month like i don't think you need it my friends how about you just watch just make people watch the thing you know as well a lot of people in the academy because it's the most prestigious they are getting like crazy swag they are getting really beautiful for your consideration DVD box sets that have like every a 24 or neon movie that was released that year and then you just don't watch it like come on man they're giving you physical media like please just watch watch the bloody tv put them on a shelf it's nice Maybe one day streaming will be over and you'll be wishing that you had the Ari Aster triple bill box set or whatever they sent people. But yeah, I mean, I think many people on the internet were rightfully shocked about this, that this wasn't already like the only job you had.

Are you, do I mean, I know like the logic would say, well, this will only help voting become more efficient. The other part of me knows, like, people with any shred of privilege will do anything that like according to the way they want to do it. So I can also see other people starting to fake, like, being like, oh, yeah, I saw that. And honestly, I was saying this before we started, but, like, honestly, like, do that then. Like, the real reason they have to. At least take the effort. Like, here, like, the big reason, in my opinion, just from, like, what I've seen and the way this stuff is reported on, last year, a lot of the trade kind of anonymous voting pools that they do, where the voters say a bunch of bitchy stuff and everyone reads it and it's like, wow, why are you allowed to vote in this? And, but a lot of them last year, multiple ones were people saying they hadn't watched every movie. I didn't watch this because I don't like it.

I didn't watch this because it has, oh, I didn't watch, you know, conclave because Ray Fines already has an Oscar. I didn't watch, you know, the brutalist because Adrian Brody already has an Oscar. He'd actually only just been nominated and then he did win and you saw what happened. So don't vote for him again. But like, yeah, it's very funny that I think they were too honest. and I think that everyone online and the thing was like, wait a minute, you're telling me, like,

the reason Anora won is just because you guys didn't watch the other movies. Like, that seems insane. Did you even watch Nora if you voted for it? Maybe not. So I think this is a good idea. I caught some of it. Yeah, like, I saw a bit.

I saw a bit where she's like dancing in the boys' apartment. You know, I just skipped that and then just everything else. That was pretty sad. That trailer was fire. The trailer was also been fired. Exactly. That's why I'm like, I'm like, just lie. Like, if you don't want to do it, just lie.

And that you could have avoided all of this because I have used multiple, and Joelle, I know you've been through this too, multiple badly positioned IP streaming services where they want to take your data as a viewer or as a journalist and they'll add an app to your Voku TV and then you stream through there. This reminds me of this one South by Southwest did a few years ago and it was so janky. It was just always full of glitches. It was so hard to watch the movies. and I do not believe that the Academy is going to have a better working one. So I think we're going to see a lot of complaints about the app. And I did watch it

and it didn't say it would work and blah, blah, blah, blah. Is that how they're doing it through an app? There is an app that basically works like how our Netflix preview content works. So they can see if you've watched the whole movie. Academy, call Apple TV. They have the best one. It's fluid. There are never any issues.

Whatever they're doing, you do that too. Cool. So pay for it. No, that's what like for the Hollywood foreign press, they were given Apple TV units that had like sort of this proprietary software on it to be like, all right, okay, you don't want to go to the street? Like, especially during the pandemic and like the height of the lockdowns, they weren't, they weren't like physical media had kind of ceased and like, okay, just do everything through this Apple TV. And there you go,

watch it. It was so simple. It's really easy. I feel like the people in the academy are going to find a way to make this a free speech issue. Oh, we shouldn't have to do this. We shouldn't have to watch the movie. Free speech. You're violating my free speech. If I won't. consider a Democrat for president. And I always know about Republican. You absolutely do not have to be a member of the academy. You can go on with your life and do something else. Exactly.

I watched last year I watched 500 movies that I logged on my letterbox. Like, I could do it. I'll watch them all. Let me. Letterbox community as Oscar voters for two years. Wow. Let's see what happens. It would be great.

At least people would watch it. That would be cool if they were like using letterboxed as like the miners where they're like just trying to like kind of scope for talent. I love that. idea. Give them a checkmark. I would also say as well, like, this, yeah, this speaks to another problem, which is the struggle between like the idea of like a popular cinema and what the Oscars celebrate. And I would say, I think that this could lead to us having more blockbuster accessible movies being recognized. Because I think that for a lot of these

academy members, especially the older ones who weren't bought in in the last few years, they would probably actually more enjoy watching like an action blockbuster than they would watching a lot of these movies, especially if they haven't been watching them. So I'm interested to see if that if this kind of weirdly like opens a door. And with him adding casting and stunts, that makes a lot of sense with me. I wonder if we'll also see no more three hour long movies.

They're like, oh, fuck that. That's what I'm saying. I actually think suddenly 90 minute movies, two hour long movies, Sinners should be the frontrunner for everything this year, especially with cinematography, with stunt work. It could really be that movie. I'm looking forward to the package for stunt work. You know, like the thing in the broadcast

where they show like how the best stunts were done, like I feel like that could be really cool. Did you watch the Oscars last year? Yes. Okay, so do you remember, basically they had a package like that that had been part of the promotional kind of push for the fool guy or fall guy i think it was cool okay the ryan the ryan gozzling uh emily blunt movie and basically the entire aim of them making that movie was to get a stunt oscar recognition

so they kind of did a package and it was super super cool and everyone was just like why are we not already giving the award like so many movies so i think that could be really sick especially if they get like you know you know tom cruise is going to be trying to get like that mission impossible shit on there. So who knows, maybe Tom Cruise can you make this one shaped like me? Yeah, he's going to like parachute into the Oscars or something. Like, I'm here for it. Like, let the stunts roll. Yeah. And for casting, I think they should have to say who was also being considered.

Who the studio was trying to get them to cast in the role when they cast, when they like actually nailed the casting. Yeah. Or just like have the worst possible person in the role, like do a scene. Be like, you see how bad this shit? could have been. Yep. Anyways, Rosie, Joelle, such a pleasure

having you both on the daily zeitgeist. Rosie, where can people find you, follow you, hear you all that good stuff? We, me and Joelle,

do make a very fun podcast with my co-host, Jason Concepcion, and our incredible other super producers, Abu, Aaron, and Carmen. And we are on

high heart radio four times a week. So if you didn't think you got enough of me yapping, great news. You can hear a lot more yapping.

There it is. That's really fun. It's every Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday where we do a news episode so you can listen to that. I am at Rosie Marks, M-A-R-X on Letterbox and Instagram and all those other things, but I don't really use the other ones. But yeah, it was so great to be on here. Thank you so much for having us, guys. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? It can be social media or a show or whatever.

I am a perennial murder-she-wrote re-watcher, as we mentioned, but I have been really, enjoying the J.D. Vance killed the Pope memes. That's been like getting me through. Like I definitely, I had a really, one of the one where it's like the Hieronymus post, like painting of the devil, like shaking hands with, you know, a religious figure. And then you have the same image from the White House pool of JD.

I love the just killed a pope. Like that's what J.D. stands for. Big fan of all of that. So yeah, those, those memes have been keeping me going. I'm a meme lover. Just killed a D-D-O-D-O-Po. That's his new name. Just killed a D-Po. Amazing.

Joelle, where can people find you? Is there a working media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I've been Joel Monique. You find me all over the internet at Joel Monique. That's J-O-E, L-O-E, M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. I have two. One, Larry David wrote a New York Times satirical piece called My Dinner with Hitler, sort of taking on Bill Maher, having dinner with Trump.

it is hysterical and delightful shout out larry david for being a real one he is a real one so great and then um just want to highly encourage everyone to check out and or it is a as what did jason call it like how to how to build a resistance like how to build a rebellion yeah yeah it's it's genuinely touching in ways i could not have fathomed and it is significantly better than the first season which I thought was great. Like, this is truly to me, this is the best season of television since Watchmen. And I don't take that like.

It's searingly. It is pretty unbelievable. And it's definitely one of those shows too where like just timing-wise means that they couldn't have been trying to predict stuff, but it feels extremely prescient when you do watch it. It absolutely feels like a letter to you about getting your shit together right now. It's like there's no time. There's no time to get your shit together right now.

It's brilliant and beautiful. And it's truly, if you're Star Wars die hard like I am, this really gets to the heart of like what makes Star Wars great. And yet it's elevated to like a BBC masterclass level of television. It's brilliant. I really enjoy it. So I'm trying to get everyone to watch it. My insider pro advice is wait till Friday when you can watch all episodes back to back. There's three episodes.

You can watch them separately. It is still structured like television, but it's so much better when you're watching these like a full movie. So those are my tips. Go check out of Android. Damn. That's a hybrid is coming from Joel Mone. Miles, where can people find you as their work in media? You've been enjoying.

Yeah, everywhere they got at symbols at Miles of Gray. The basketball pod is Miles and Jack got mad boosters. The 90-day fiancé pod is called 420-day fiancé. Check me out there. A couple of posts I like from Blue Sky at Lauren. Dot rotating Sandwiches.com posted, work is giving us a Chick-fil-A breakfast buffet and a Ben and Jerry ice cream social today.

And what I'm calling the most successful political both-sidesing of all time. That's very funny. And then at Kendra writes.com on blue sky.

I posted this video from TikTok of police harassing a guy in Massachusetts based on the person who is filming this. The caption on the video says,

I started a reverse neighborhood watch program. Basically, he's observing the police. And this interaction It just made all the better because of this guy's very distinct Massachusetts, Boston accent. It doesn't look like anything. You're allowed to drive wherever you want.

So in this video, I should describe it. This is an audio, this is an audio medium. This guy is across the street filming like three cops hemming up some guy like outside of a car and just stopping him. We don't know the reason why. But again, this is where the man starts yelling at the cops to leave him alone. It doesn't look like anything. You're allowed to drive wherever you want.

It's America. It's America. It's America. They're just racist. It's okay. They're just racist. You're not allowed to drive around Winthrop if you're a minority. Good, man.

How are you doing? You guys still protecting pedophiles like Philly? There you go. Have a great day. Fuck you. That's community care, baby. That's what we're going to be trying to do. And he said he was referencing,

thing, like, in the video, a pop-up comes up about a lieutenant from their police department that was charged with, like, child sex abuse. And then the guy says, why don't you go back to your house? Doesn't he goes, yeah, fuck you. Why don't you go back? Yeah, fuck you, too. Fuck you, pa. A dollar 25, pa.

Well, told this will he reference. Yeah, oh, yeah. The insured. Not Adam. It's all washed. Mm-hmm. Tweet I liked limp Britzkit at Brady Miggs tweeted. Honey, mommy needs you to lock in.

Lock in for mommy, please. Lock in. Lock in for mommy. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Blue Sky at Jack Obie, the number one. You can find. Sorry, that came out of nowhere. It was exciting.

Are we wrapping up or are we just starting the pot? That was the cold open. This is, I'm saying, this is like the optopathy. The nightly zeitgeist. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist. We're at The Daily Zekegeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening to it. And there you will find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode.

We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, that song that errantly played is a banger. the producer Sango that's called Old Carnival but that's not the song we're going to write out of but if you're interested that he put out a whole album of like Latin trap beats like

there's a Mexican one a Puerto Rican one a Brazilian one like a Dominican one it's a it's a fantastic EP and you can support him by getting that on band how's that song go? Oh shit it was just a fun play it was just a really fun play on the

there's nothing more humiliating thing to get got like that when I really miss, like sincerely misunderstood what you said and only for it to be a papajoke. A papajouk. But the track I do want to go out on, just an old, just a classic Dochi track, Persuasive. I love it. It's, if you're not, look, people need to get, people need to get familiar with Dochi. We've gone out of a couple tracks by Dochi, but this is, this is from 2022. This is a banger called Persuasive.

You even get Latin, like, part way through it. It's, look, this is Friday. Okay? Get Persuasive. This is with Dogey, D-O-E-C-H-I-I. Go ahead. Enjoy your weekend. All right.

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